Good job breaking down Molnar's work without losing the essentials. You're right. Molnar's book is not a page turner. It requires careful study and contemplation to follow the argument. But it is an intriguing, worthy argument. Again, good job!
I was about to cobble together a bunch of other sources to teach this to my kids when we read Matthew 2 this morning...and well look at that, your video had all of it and done so well! Much appreciated, I look forward to diving into your other content!
Thanks for this presentation. I heard of the ancient coin with the “star”, you helped understand this part. Liked your last statement; let’s GOD meet us where we are at.
I highly recommend the 2007 Documentary on this website titled "The Star of Bethlehem" explained by Rick Larson who did a deep dive using the Bible and modern Astronomy software. He identified 9 clues in the Bible to show what the Star of Bethlehem would be. FYI a "Star of Bethlehem" appeared in 2015 for the first time in 2000 years and was a conjunction of Venus & Jupiter in June of 2 B.C. which is the date of Jesus' birth. This made the news 8 years ago if you Google it. A comment below says the birth date as in September of 3 B.C., that's actually the day of Annunciation. Even if you go to a planetarium at Christmas time today they will point out this Jupiter/Venus conjunction from June of 2 B.C. The Magi gave their gifts to Jesus on 12/25 of 2 B.C. as Jesus was a toddler at this point, which matches Matthew's original Greek where he is called a "piteon" (Greek for toddler). We have to remember Mary "stored all of these things in her heart" so she committed to memory all the events surrounding the birth of Jesus and relayed them to the Apostles to write down.
Excellent presentation! Keep in mind that the Magi represents one of the earlier forms of monotheism. And, after the Persian Magi pay homage, Jesus, Mary and Joseph flee into Egypt. That’s another symbolic reference that indicates Jesus’ significance. Egypt is where “god-Kings” dwelled and their monuments were aligned with the stars. Also, Akhenaten was the first “monotheistic king” so to speak. It’s possible that the Gospels mentioned these as a way to convey that Jesus and his message and purpose far exceeds that of both the Magi and power of Persia and exceeds that of Egypt as well. Just a thought! Thanks again for posting!
I have a question…what do you make of the same star going before them and resting over where Christ was…this seems like a completely supernatural event with no natural correlation, unless there are astrological terms I’m unaware of that explain what is happening…
It's actually something the author addresses in the book (but was too much detail to get into in the video). If I remember correctly the language used for coming to rest is the same language astrologers used to describe retrograde motion of a planet in the sky. I'd have to go back and reference the book to give you a more detailed answer, but it's one of the points he makes to support his argument that the Bible is talking about astrology.
This is really intriguing, given the related sources citing the symbolism of Jupiter near the moon. Like many I thought one of the planets are the star. Specifically Venus, given its nearly two year cycle, and tendency to move about (e.g. west - southwest) over several months. It does some interesting things in about 8-7 BC, overtaking the other planets one by one each month,, but then again it often appears to do such things... hard to know the significance without corroborating evidence of its interpretation -- which Jupiter passing behind the moon seems to have. Not bad! Great vid and excited to check out your channel.
Alright, so I ran the date in Stellarium, and there's a potentially huge problem with this idea. The Moon at this time was nearly a New Moon, (the Full Moon was about 13 days prior) i.e. very difficult to see, although very early morning may have been possible. The occultation itself occurred mid-day and would have been very difficult, even impossible, to notice. It could have been inferred, perhaps. And certainly the Moon and Jupiter were visible close that morning, but it's worth noting that they are visibly close once each month, for the several months Jupiter passes overhead each year. I don't know how frequent occultations are, but this particular one would not have been visually remarkable, although it may have come with other signs or symbolism...
Interestingly that's actually something covered in the book. The author makes the case that it helps explain why it wasn't something everyone was aware of but just astrologers from the East who were calculating the positions of the planets and moon rather than relying on observation. Major props for using your resources though! I hadn't heard of Stellarium!
@@TheThinkingBeliever i still find this sequence intriguing: 9 BC, Venus Jun 12 - conjunction July 20 - overtakes Mercury *Oct 25 - overtakes Mars *Nov 26 - overtakes Jupiter *Dec 29 - overtakes Saturn Jan 1 - overtakes Uranus April 1 - conjunction Venus was in the constellation Virgo in Aug-Sep, before sweeping by the exterior planets, one each month, in sequence, and visually in very close proximity. I wonder how often that happens, and if it would have signified anything to astrologers. It looks striking in Stellarium ... it's indeed a pretty cool app 🙂
Hey, you need to get this book by author Alex Tomaras: What was "the star of Bethlehem?" -Solved! It's small book, but it settles the issue once and for all.
I DISCOVERED THAT HALLEY´S COMET IS THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM. On August 23, 2018, in my "Colombian Arithmetic Reconciliation Between History and Astronomy" in excel, I discovered that: 1) Halley's comet is the same Biblical Star of Bethlehem. 2) After the year 1066 A.D., there is an error (8 years extra). The year 1986 was really 1978 A.D., and the year 2018 was really the year 2010 A.D. 3) The German version of Ghost Time, which says that 297 false years were added to history during the period (614 - 911 AD) is not correct because during that time there were historic sightings of Halley's comet (837 A.D.,sighted during the reign of Ludovico Pío or Louis the Pious, and was reported by a chronicler nicknamed "The Astronomer" ), and there is no remainder of 297 years either. Going back in time with periods of 76.03 years, since 1066 when William the Conqueror spotted the comet, I found that the Halley's comet had its perihelion in year 1 of the Christian era and in the year 837 a.D., in the time of King Louis I. We are currently in the year 2024, however really this is the year 2016 a. D., because there is an error (eight-years) in the allocations of historical dates in the first 8 years, it may be because dates were always calculated based on periods of 75 or 76 years, but the exact period of Halley 's comet is 76.03 years, accumulating 8 years, or perhaps because at some point after the year 1066 AD, historians noticed that there is an error (8 years) in the assignment of historical events during the first 8 years of the Christian era and possibly those historians (clerics) thought that the error could be corrected by adding 8 years, but that was not the correct solution, It is necessary to relocate the assignment of historical events during the first 8 years. Whatever it may have been, after the year 1066 A.D., there are 8 extra years until today 2024 A.D (2016 years since the birth of Jesus The Messiah). Going back in time with exact periods of 76.03 years, from the last perihelion of Halley's Comet in 1986 to the oldest record (China 2290 BC), it is observed that the perihelion of the year 1074 AD corresponds to the historical sighting recorded with date 1066 AD (when Halley's Comet was observed in Normandy and England by William the Conqueror) giving rise to a current accumulated difference of eight (8) years, between the date of historical record (1066) and the date that is supposed to correspond to the exact perihelion (1074). Therefore, if those eight (8) years of difference are subtracted from the date of the last perihelion of the year 1986, we obtain that the year 1986 should be the year 1978. Taking the exact year 1978 as a starting point and Going back in time (subtracting or subtracting) with exact periods of 76.03 years, it is observed that Halley's Comet had its correct perihelion in the year 1065 or 1066 (when it was sighted by William the Conqueror), it also coincides with the historical record from the year 837 when it was sighted by King Louis I (the Pious), reported by a chronicler called "the Astronomer", but also and most importantly, it can be observed that Halley's Comet had its perihelion in the first year, or year one (1) of the Christian Era or time after Christ a.D.
We use Gregorian calendar, at Jesus time they have Julian calendar. Between them have 11 days difference. I copy from one Quora answer: Up until October 4th (a Thursday) of 1582 in the Julian calendar, which was followed the next day by October 15th, (a Friday) of 1582, the first actual day of the Gregorian calendar. No day of the week breaks, just days in the year’s calendar. Your answer have as reference today. When we talk about 730000 days ago (2000 year) with precision we need a software incorporating the conversion of Gregorian days (as if existed at that time) to Julian days (which really exist at that time), considering no break at week days, at least.
@@RF-fi2pt Thank you for your interest. However, there are not 11 days of difference for each year, but 10 days of total accumulated difference from the year 46 BC to the year 1582 after Christ. This is what the Gegorian Calendar ("Calendario Gregoriano") article says on Wikipedia (in Spanish), I'll translate it for you: "At the Council of Nicea it was determined that Easter should be commemorated on the Sunday following the full moon after the spring equinox in the northern hemisphere (autumn equinox in the southern hemisphere). That year 325 the equinox had occurred on March 21, but with the passage of time the date of the event had moved forward to the point that in 1582, the gap was already 10 days, and the equinox that same year of 1582 was dated March 11. The gap came from a. inaccurate calculation of the number of days that the tropic year has; according to the Julian calendar that instituted a leap year every four, it was considered that the tropic year was made up of 365.25 days, while the correct figure is 365.2422, or which is the same, 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes and 45.10 seconds. Those more than 11 minutes counted in addition to each year had meant in the 1257 years between 325 and 1582 an accumulated error of approximately 10 days."
That also did happen, in 7 BC. I also thought maybe that was significant, but have to say this seems more compelling given the related interpretations.
Thanks for all your work. I’ve been watching your videos for several years now (back when you took really long breaks between posts haha). I’d be curious to know your thoughts on Michael Heiser’s approach to the star of Bethlehem. He favors an autumn date around the feast of trumpets. th-cam.com/video/Dz1ZFkz1QtA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Dave! I've only made it about halfway through, but I wanted to respond before I forgot. I agree with a lot of what he says about setting, etc. but I do prefer Molnar's explanation. I tend to be skeptical of any interpretation that uses Revelation as the primary scriptural reference--there is just so little interpretive consensus around many of the passages that I want to be cautious about putting to much weight on any understanding that leans heavily on something in Revelation. Beyond that, what makes Molnar's explanation superior (in my opinion) is that it starts with the ancient understanding and goes from there, rather than looking for unusual things (like the star configuration in revelation) and saying "this is probably it." Those are my two cents. Thanks for sharing and watching!
*The Star in the east was a company of brightly shinning angels.* *Bible Symbology / Star = Angel* *....The seven stars are the angels* of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. *-Revelation 1:20* The eastern star was a company of angels that only appeared to the wise men. If it were a fixed star or a planet it would have been known to astronomers, kings, priests, scribes, shepherds and common folk alike. *Matthew 2:1, 2* -tells us that it led the wise men first to Jerusalem and then disappeared without anyone else seeing it. And later as the wise men departed for Bethlehem it reappears and leads them to the manger. (Verses 9,10). No one in Jerusalem seen the star reappear over Bethlehem when the wise men left or Herod would have followed it for himself and found Christ. Angels can appear, dissappear and then reappear, fixed stars and planets cannot, nor do they hover low directly over a city (Jerusalem) and then reappear and hover over a manger. Angels can show forth their bright shining glory and lead the wise men directly to the manger and yet be invisible to everyone else. Makes one pause and muse the traditional reasoning of a star or an angel being interchangeable on the top of a Christmas tree now, does it not? *God Bless You and Your Family This Christmas Season!*
*The Desire of Ages* *Chapter 6-"We have Seen His Star”* Audiobook available on TH-cam This chapter is based on Matthew 2 *“Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the East to Jerusalem, saying, Where is He that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen His star in the East, and are come to worship Him.”* DA 59.1 The wise men from the East were philosophers. They belonged to a large and influential class that included men of noble birth, and comprised much of the wealth and learning of their nation. Among these were many who imposed on the credulity of the people. Others were upright men who studied the indications of Providence in nature, and who were honored for their integrity and wisdom. Of this character were the wise men who came to Jesus. DA 59.2 The light of God is ever shining amid the darkness of heathenism. As these magi studied the starry heavens, and sought to fathom the mystery hidden in their bright paths, they beheld the glory of the Creator. Seeking clearer knowledge, they turned to the Hebrew Scriptures. In their own land were treasured prophetic writings that predicted the coming of a divine teacher. Balaam belonged to the magicians, though at one time a prophet of God; by the Holy Spirit he had foretold the prosperity of Israel and the appearing of the Messiah; and his prophecies had been handed down by tradition from century to century. But in the Old Testament the Saviour’s advent was more clearly revealed. The magi learned with joy that His coming was near, and that the whole world was to be filled with a knowledge of the glory of the Lord. DA 59.3 The wise men had seen a mysterious light in the heavens upon that night when the glory of God flooded the hills of Bethlehem. As the light faded, a luminous star appeared, and lingered in the sky. *It was not a fixed star nor a planet, and the phenomenon excited the keenest interest. That star was a distant company of shining angels,* but of this the wise men were ignorant. Yet they were impressed that the star was of special import to them. They consulted priests and philosophers, and searched the scrolls of the ancient records. The prophecy of Balaam had declared, *“There shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Scepter shall rise out of Israel.” Numbers **24:17**.* Could this strange star have been sent as a harbinger of the Promised One? The magi had welcomed the light of heaven-sent truth; now it was shed upon them in brighter rays. Through dreams they were instructed to go in search of the newborn Prince. DA 60.1 As by faith Abraham went forth at the call of God, *“not knowing whither he went”* *(Hebrews 11:8);* as by faith Israel followed the pillar of cloud to the Promised Land, so did these Gentiles go forth to find the promised Saviour. The Eastern country abounded in precious things, and the magi did not set out empty-handed. It was the custom to offer presents as an act of homage to princes or other personages of rank, and the richest gifts the land afforded were borne as an offering to Him in whom all the families of the earth were to be blessed. It was necessary to journey by night in order to keep the star in view; but the travelers beguiled the hours by repeating traditional sayings and prophetic utterances concerning the One they sought. At every pause for rest they searched the prophecies; and the conviction deepened that they were divinely guided. While they had the star before them as an outward sign, they had also the inward evidence of the Holy Spirit, which was impressing their hearts, and inspiring them with hope. The journey, though long, was a happy one to them. DA 60.2 They have reached the land of Israel, and are descending the Mount of Olives, with Jerusalem in sight, when, lo, the star that has guided them all the weary way rests above the temple, and after a season fades from their view. With eager steps they press onward, confidently expecting the Messiah’s birth to be the joyful burden of every tongue. But their inquiries are in vain. Entering the holy city, they repair to the temple. To their amazement they find none who seem to have a knowledge of the newborn king. Their questions call forth no expressions of joy, but rather of surprise and fear, not unmingled with contempt. DA 60.3 The priests are rehearsing traditions. They extol their religion and their own piety, while they denounce the Greeks and Romans as heathen, and sinners above others. The wise men are not idolaters, and in the sight of God they stand far higher than do these, His professed worshipers; yet they are looked upon by the Jews as heathen. Even among the appointed guardians of the Holy Oracles their eager questionings touch no chord of sympathy. DA 61.1 The arrival of the magi was quickly noised throughout Jerusalem. Their strange errand created an excitement among the people, which penetrated to the palace of King Herod. The wily Edomite was aroused at the intimation of a possible rival. Countless murders had stained his pathway to the throne. Being of alien blood, he was hated by the people over whom he ruled. His only security was the favor of Rome. But this new Prince had a higher claim. He was born to the kingdom. DA 61.2 Herod suspected the priests of plotting with the strangers to excite a popular tumult and unseat him from the throne. He concealed his mistrust, however, determined to thwart their schemes by superior cunning. Summoning the chief priests and the scribes, he questioned them as to the teaching of their sacred books in regard to the place of the Messiah’s birth. DA 61.3 This inquiry from the usurper of the throne, and made at the request of strangers, stung the pride of the Jewish teachers. The indifference with which they turned to the rolls of prophecy enraged the jealous tyrant. He thought them trying to conceal their knowledge of the matter. With an authority they dared not disregard, he commanded them to make close search, and to declare the birthplace of their expected King. *“And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judea: for thus it is written by the prophet,* DA 62.1 *“And thou Bethlehem, land of Judah,* *Art in nowise least among the princes of Judah:* *For out of thee shall come forth a governor,* *Which shall be shepherd of My people Israel.”* R.V. DA 62.2 Herod now invited the magi to a private interview. A tempest of wrath and fear was raging in his heart, but he preserved a calm exterior, and received the strangers courteously. He inquired at what time the star had appeared, and professed to hail with joy the intimation of the birth of Christ. He bade his visitors, *“Search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found Him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship Him also.”* So saying, he dismissed them to go on their way to Bethlehem. DA 62.3 The priests and elders of Jerusalem were not as ignorant concerning the birth of Christ as they pretended. The report of the angels’ visit to the shepherds had been brought to Jerusalem, but the rabbis had treated it as unworthy of their notice. They themselves might have found Jesus, and might have been ready to lead the magi to His birthplace; but instead of this, the wise men came to call their attention to the birth of the Messiah. *“Where is He that is born King of the Jews?”* they said; *“for we have seen His star in the East, and are come to worship Him.”* DA 62.4 Now pride and envy closed the door against the light. If the reports brought by the shepherds and the wise men were credited, they would place the priests and rabbis in a most unenviable position, disproving their claim to be the exponents of the truth of God. These learned teachers would not stoop to be instructed by those whom they termed heathen. It could not be, they said, that God had passed them by, to communicate with ignorant shepherds or uncircumcised Gentiles. They determined to show their contempt for the reports that were exciting King Herod and all Jerusalem. They would not even go to Bethlehem to see whether these things were so. And they led the people to regard the interest in Jesus as a fanatical excitement. Here began the rejection of Christ by the priests and rabbis. From this point their pride and stubbornness grew into a settled hatred of the Saviour. While God was opening the door to the Gentiles, the Jewish leaders were closing the door to themselves. DA 62.5
The wise men departed alone from Jerusalem. The shadows of night were falling as they left the gates, but to their great joy they again saw the star, and were directed to Bethlehem. They had received no such intimation of the lowly estate of Jesus as was given to the shepherds. After the long journey they had been disappointed by the indifference of the Jewish leaders, and had left Jerusalem less confident than when they entered the city. At Bethlehem they found no royal guard stationed to protect the newborn King. None of the world’s honored men were in attendance. Jesus was cradled in a manger. His parents, uneducated peasants, were His only guardians. Could this be He of whom it was written, that He should *“raise up the tribes of Jacob,”* and *“restore the preserved of Israel;”* that He should be *“a light to the Gentiles,”* and for *“salvation unto the end of the earth”? Isaiah 49:6* DA 63.1 *“When they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary His mother, and fell down, and worshiped Him.”* Beneath the lowly guise of Jesus, they recognized the presence of Divinity. They gave their hearts to Him as their Saviour, and then poured out their gifts, *-“gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.”* What a faith was theirs! It might have been said of the wise men from the East, as afterward of the Roman centurion, *“I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.”* *Matthew 8:10* DA 63.2 The wise men had not penetrated Herod’s design toward Jesus. When the object of their journey was accomplished, they prepared to return to Jerusalem, intending to acquaint him with their success. But in a dream they received a divine message to hold no further communication with him. Avoiding Jerusalem, they set out for their own country by another route. DA 64.1 In like manner Joseph received warning to flee into Egypt with Mary and the child. And the angel said, *“Be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy Him.”* Joseph obeyed without delay, setting out on the journey by night for greater security. DA 64.2 Through the wise men, God had called the attention of the Jewish nation to the birth of His Son. Their inquiries in Jerusalem, the popular interest excited, and even the jealousy of Herod, which compelled the attention of the priests and rabbis, directed minds to the prophecies concerning the Messiah, and to the great event that had just taken place. DA 64.3 Satan was bent on shutting out the divine light from the world, and he used his utmost cunning to destroy the Saviour. But He who never slumbers nor sleeps was watching over His beloved Son. He who had rained manna from heaven for Israel and had fed Elijah in the time of famine provided in a heathen land a refuge for Mary and the child Jesus. And through the gifts of the magi from a heathen country, the Lord supplied the means for the journey into Egypt and the sojourn in a land of strangers. DA 65.1 The magi had been among the first to welcome the Redeemer. Their gift was the first that was laid at His feet. And through that gift, what privilege of ministry was theirs! The offering from the heart that loves, God delights to honor, giving it highest efficiency in service for Him. If we have given our hearts to Jesus, we also shall bring our gifts to Him. Our gold and silver, our most precious earthly possessions, our highest mental and spiritual endowments, will be freely devoted to Him who loved us, and gave Himself for us. DA 65.2 Herod in Jerusalem impatiently awaited the return of the wise men. As time passed, and they did not appear, his suspicions were roused. The unwillingness of the rabbis to point out the Messiah’s birthplace seemed to indicate that they had penetrated his design, and that the magi had purposely avoided him. He was maddened at the thought. Craft had failed, but there was left the resort to force. He would make an example of this child-king. Those haughty Jews should see what they might expect in their attempts to place a monarch on the throne. DA 65.3 Soldiers were at once sent to Bethlehem, with orders to put to death all the children of two years and under. The quiet homes of the city of David witnessed those scenes of horror that, six hundred years before, had been opened to the prophet. *“In Ramah was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.”* DA 65.4 This calamity the Jews had brought upon themselves. If they had been walking in faithfulness and humility before God, He would in a signal manner have made the wrath of the king harmless to them. But they had separated themselves from God by their sins, and had rejected the Holy Spirit, which was their only shield. They had not studied the Scriptures with a desire to conform to the will of God. They had searched for prophecies which could be interpreted to exalt themselves, and to show how God despised all other nations. It was their proud boast that the Messiah was to come as a king, conquering His enemies, and treading down the heathen in His wrath. Thus they had excited the hatred of their rulers. Through their misrepresentation of Christ’s mission, Satan had purposed to compass the destruction of the Saviour; but instead of this, it returned upon their own heads. DA 65.5 This act of cruelty was one of the last that darkened the reign of Herod. Soon after the slaughter of the innocents, he was himself compelled to yield to that doom which none can turn aside. He died a fearful death. DA 66.1 Joseph, who was still in Egypt, was now bidden by an angel of God to return to the land of Israel. Regarding Jesus as the heir of David’s throne, Joseph desired to make his home in Bethlehem; but learning that Archelaus reigned in Judea in his father’s stead, he feared that the father’s designs against Christ might be carried out by the son. Of all the sons of Herod, Archelaus most resembled him in character. Already his succession to the government had been marked by a tumult in Jerusalem, and the slaughter of thousands of Jews by the Roman guards. DA 66.2 Again Joseph was directed to a place of safety. He returned to Nazareth, his former home, and here for nearly thirty years Jesus dwelt, *“that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.”* Galilee was under the control of a son of Herod, but it had a much larger admixture of foreign inhabitants than Judea. Thus there was less interest in matters relating especially to the Jews, and the claims of Jesus would be less likely to excite the jealousy of those in power. DA 66.3 Such was the Saviour’s reception when He came to the earth. There seemed to be no place of rest or safety for the infant Redeemer. God could not trust His beloved Son with men, even while carrying forward His work for their salvation. He commissioned angels to attend Jesus and protect Him till He should accomplish His mission on earth, and die by the hands of those whom He came to save. DA 67.1
⁷ And of the angels he saith, *Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.* *-Hebrews 1:7* *¹⁷ The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels:* the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place. *-Psalm 68:17* ² Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: *for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.* *-Hebrews 13:2* *....The seven stars are the angels* of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. *-Revelation 1:20* *"The Bible is it own expositore"* ¹⁰ For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: *-Isaiah 28:10* *[referring to the Bereans]* ¹¹ These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, *in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.* *-Acts 17:11*
This is what i believe also. Another interesting thing are angels are also known as saints. Job 15:15 is clear evidence. Job 15: 15Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight. There was no man in heaven at this point so this has to be angels
@@kevinboutwell2243 Amen..! Check out what the Strong's Concordance says the Star was. ¹ Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, ² Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his *star[792]* in the east, and are come to worship him. *-Matthew 2:1, 2* *Strong's Concordance* Word: asterh Pronounce: as-tare' Strongs Number: *G792* Orig: probably from the base of 4766; a star (as strown over the sky), *literally or figuratively:* --star. G4766 Use: TDNT-1:503,86 Noun Masculine Heb Strong: H3556 *H6635* 1) a star Word: @AV Pronounce: tsaw-baw' Strong: *H6635* Orig: or (feminine) tsbadah \i tseb-aw-aw'\i0\plain\f3\fs21\cf23 ; from 6633; *a mass of persons (or figuratively, things),* especially reg. organized for war (an army); by implication, *a campaign,* *literally or figuratively* (specifically, hardship, worship):--appointed time, (+) army, (+) battle, *company, host,* service, soldiers, waiting upon, war(-fare). H6633 Use: TWOT-1865a,1865b Noun Masculine Grk Strong: G39 G706 G792 G798 G979 G1411 G1484 G2889 G3009 G3163 G4128 G4171 G4752 G4756 G4519 1) that which goes forth, army, war, warfare, *host* 1a) *army, host* 1a1) host (of organised army) 1a2) *host (of angels)* 1a3) of sun, moon, and stars 1a4) of whole creation 1b) war, warfare, service, go out to war 1c) service
Astonomer and Astrologer. These are two different things. They are ancient astronomers. Astronomers study the stars. Astrologers study how the stars steer people’s lives. Christians can be astronomers. Christians cannot be astrologers.
Star of bethlehem is wormwood is lucifer fallen down Amos 5:5 But seek not Bethel, nor enter into Gilgal, and pass not to Beersheba: for Gilgal shall surely go into captivity, and Bethel shall come to nought. Amos 5:6 Seek the LORD, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Bethel. Amos 5:7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood, and leave off righteousness in the earth, Amos 5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name
Kings are born in aries 30 years after jesus earth shake on pasover 3day darknes.. so work it back jerusalem was destroied it was wen betlehem arias was over bethlehem...the yews know the zodiack it is yewhis knowledge
Of course Aries is looking back at the star because Aries is before Pisces, which was the birth of Christ Pisces the fish Jesus Christ was born on September 11 and his glory is written in the heavens
The Star of Bethlehem was a spacecraft that God's angels travel in. That is why it went over the place of Jesus' (Yashua's) birth, it operated in our atmosphere. It was not in space, even though that is where it came from. In the cloud that Jesus was taken up into was a spacecraft that took him to the throne of God, and it took ten days to get there, at incredible speed, as he said he would send the holy spirit when he arrived at the throne of God, and he left after 40 days of being here after the resurrection, and Pentecost was 50 days after his resurrection. It was a spacecraft that shined the very bright light down on Saul (who was renamed Paul) on the road to Damascus. If you make it into the Kingdom when the second coming happens, you will observe the spacecraft on the ground and you will be told, "That was the star of Bethlehem". When you see the International Space Station go overhead, it looks like a moving star.
@@TheThinkingBeliever Its not a belief, it is a fact. When the second coming happens there will be thousands of spacecraft surrounding the Earth, to fight a battle with the armies of the "Kings of the Earth", in which Jesus and the angels will be victorious, and we (the true Christians) will come back down with them to take over the Earth for 1,000 years.
@@TheThinkingBeliever Read Revelation 19:19, where it states that the armies of the Earth prepare to make battle against Jesus and his angels. They are preparing now, as they have seen amazing vehicles in the sky that they cannot explain how they can fly and where they came from, as per a "60 minutes" episode last year, where Fighter Pilots cannot explain the incredible vehicles they have seen, most over the ocean, where they seem to be able to go at tremendous speeds even under water and in the sky. It is just logical that God's angels (who we would call "Aliens") would have to have a way to get here from somewhere far away in space (heaven). They cannot swim through space, and the Bible states that the Star of Bethlehem moved and hovered over the place where Jesus was born. A star or other object up in space cannot move and go over Bethlehem. Isn't it suspicious that when Jesus was taken up, it was a cloud that he was taken up into? Was that cloud hiding something? I think so, as if they saw what was in that cloud they would be very afraid. When we are taken up in the rapture, it will be by the same method that Jesus was taken up, maybe you would call it a "tractor beam", but we are not aware of that technology, maybe it cancels gravity, or causes a REVERSAL of gravity, so the person is repelled away from the Earth, just like taking two magnets and flipping one around, they repel instead of attract. The International Space Station appears to be a moving star, so that is what the ancient people would call it, because they would not know any better.
Fascinating Thought. There is a decent amount of medieval art that also shows men inside "stars" or ,, what looks like a comet zooming over the sky.. One of the old painting's has a decent looking "modern" looking "UFO"
March 20. Jesus was a Pisces. "I will make you fishers of men." And the fish was a symbol of Christianity long before the cross. If Jesus had been born in April he'd have been either an Aries or a Taurus.
1. Jesus was born Sunday March 1, 7BC in Bethlehem of Judea, a residential complex about a kilometer from Qumran. It was originally a palace for Hasmonean royalty. It was called the 'Queen's House'. 2. The West Manassah Magi were a priestly caste of Samaritan philosophers. They were founded by Menahem and later led by Simon Zelotes. 3. The 'Star of Bethlehem' was not a cosmological or astronomical event. Joseph (Jesus' father) formed an alliance with Theudas, head of the Theraputes. The 2 in warrior mode gave themselves titles drawn from an OT verse. Joseph was the 'Star' (of David) & Theudas was the 'Scepter'. When the West Manassah Magi 'followed the star', they were agreeing with Joseph that a new Davidic king had been born. Because they recognized him as king, they were accepting him as legitimate. 4. In Septermber, 6 months after Jesus' birth (the month he should have been born in), they came to him & gave him the gold (kingship), frankincense (priesthood ) & myrrh (wisdom/knowledge). Also, Herod died in 4BC. That's why it was said that Jesus was born in the latter reign of Herod the Great.
close but no cigar. Jesus was born on sep. 11, 3BC because you accept a wrong date for the death of Herod the great. for 1800+ years the death of Herod the great was accepted to be between dec. 29 1BC and passover of 1AD. God has a sense of humor. 3BC coincided with the 750th anniversary of Rome. and the following year, on Feb. 2BC Augustus received the title Pater Patria. it is because of these that the emperor issued a census of the empire. the same year Augustus referred to himself as divi filius, son of god, the real Son of God was revealed to the magi (the gentiles, the world), the epiphany. the puns do not work for 6BC. God has great comedic timing
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Good job breaking down Molnar's work without losing the essentials. You're right. Molnar's book is not a page turner. It requires careful study and contemplation to follow the argument. But it is an intriguing, worthy argument. Again, good job!
I was about to cobble together a bunch of other sources to teach this to my kids when we read Matthew 2 this morning...and well look at that, your video had all of it and done so well! Much appreciated, I look forward to diving into your other content!
Thanks for this presentation. I heard of the ancient coin with the “star”, you helped understand this part.
Liked your last statement; let’s GOD meet us where we are at.
Good video man!
Dude!! Rob this is so good. Thanks for all the work!
Thanks Kyle! I appreciate it!
Awesome channel
I highly recommend the 2007 Documentary on this website titled "The Star of Bethlehem" explained by Rick Larson who did a deep dive using the Bible and modern Astronomy software. He identified 9 clues in the Bible to show what the Star of Bethlehem would be. FYI a "Star of Bethlehem" appeared in 2015 for the first time in 2000 years and was a conjunction of Venus & Jupiter in June of 2 B.C. which is the date of Jesus' birth. This made the news 8 years ago if you Google it. A comment below says the birth date as in September of 3 B.C., that's actually the day of Annunciation. Even if you go to a planetarium at Christmas time today they will point out this Jupiter/Venus conjunction from June of 2 B.C. The Magi gave their gifts to Jesus on 12/25 of 2 B.C. as Jesus was a toddler at this point, which matches Matthew's original Greek where he is called a "piteon" (Greek for toddler). We have to remember Mary "stored all of these things in her heart" so she committed to memory all the events surrounding the birth of Jesus and relayed them to the Apostles to write down.
Excellent presentation! Keep in mind that the Magi represents one of the earlier forms of monotheism. And, after the Persian Magi pay homage, Jesus, Mary and Joseph flee into Egypt. That’s another symbolic reference that indicates Jesus’ significance. Egypt is where “god-Kings” dwelled and their monuments were aligned with the stars. Also, Akhenaten was the first “monotheistic king” so to speak. It’s possible that the Gospels mentioned these as a way to convey that Jesus and his message and purpose far exceeds that of both the Magi and power of Persia and exceeds that of Egypt as well. Just a thought! Thanks again for posting!
I love "the God who meets us where we are" ❤
thank you for your valuable work.
Great presentation!
Took 2 video to subscribe but your good at making / telling things about the Bible not to bias. Keep up the good news!
Thanks for the encouragement! It really means a lot!
I have a question…what do you make of the same star going before them and resting over where Christ was…this seems like a completely supernatural event with no natural correlation, unless there are astrological terms I’m unaware of that explain what is happening…
It's actually something the author addresses in the book (but was too much detail to get into in the video). If I remember correctly the language used for coming to rest is the same language astrologers used to describe retrograde motion of a planet in the sky.
I'd have to go back and reference the book to give you a more detailed answer, but it's one of the points he makes to support his argument that the Bible is talking about astrology.
What is the NIB? All i get is definitions for the writing instrument! tip!
This reminds me of the Paul Harvey Christmas story, where got talks to people in their own language. 9:12
thank you for this!
This is really intriguing, given the related sources citing the symbolism of Jupiter near the moon. Like many I thought one of the planets are the star. Specifically Venus, given its nearly two year cycle, and tendency to move about (e.g. west - southwest) over several months. It does some interesting things in about 8-7 BC, overtaking the other planets one by one each month,, but then again it often appears to do such things... hard to know the significance without corroborating evidence of its interpretation -- which Jupiter passing behind the moon seems to have. Not bad! Great vid and excited to check out your channel.
Alright, so I ran the date in Stellarium, and there's a potentially huge problem with this idea. The Moon at this time was nearly a New Moon, (the Full Moon was about 13 days prior) i.e. very difficult to see, although very early morning may have been possible. The occultation itself occurred mid-day and would have been very difficult, even impossible, to notice. It could have been inferred, perhaps. And certainly the Moon and Jupiter were visible close that morning, but it's worth noting that they are visibly close once each month, for the several months Jupiter passes overhead each year. I don't know how frequent occultations are, but this particular one would not have been visually remarkable, although it may have come with other signs or symbolism...
Interestingly that's actually something covered in the book. The author makes the case that it helps explain why it wasn't something everyone was aware of but just astrologers from the East who were calculating the positions of the planets and moon rather than relying on observation. Major props for using your resources though! I hadn't heard of Stellarium!
@@TheThinkingBeliever i still find this sequence intriguing:
9 BC, Venus
Jun 12 - conjunction
July 20 - overtakes Mercury
*Oct 25 - overtakes Mars
*Nov 26 - overtakes Jupiter
*Dec 29 - overtakes Saturn
Jan 1 - overtakes Uranus
April 1 - conjunction
Venus was in the constellation Virgo in Aug-Sep, before sweeping by the exterior planets, one each month, in sequence, and visually in very close proximity. I wonder how often that happens, and if it would have signified anything to astrologers. It looks striking in Stellarium ... it's indeed a pretty cool app 🙂
Hey, you need to get this book by author Alex Tomaras: What was "the star of Bethlehem?" -Solved!
It's small book, but it settles the issue once and for all.
Very cool
I DISCOVERED THAT HALLEY´S COMET IS THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM. On August 23, 2018, in my "Colombian Arithmetic Reconciliation Between History and Astronomy" in excel, I discovered that:
1) Halley's comet is the same Biblical Star of Bethlehem.
2) After the year 1066 A.D., there is an error (8 years extra). The year 1986 was really 1978 A.D., and the year 2018 was really the year 2010 A.D.
3) The German version of Ghost Time, which says that 297 false years were added to history during the period (614 - 911 AD) is not correct because during that time there were historic sightings of Halley's comet (837 A.D.,sighted during the reign of Ludovico Pío or Louis the Pious, and was reported by a chronicler nicknamed "The Astronomer" ), and there is no remainder of 297 years either.
Going back in time with periods of 76.03 years, since 1066 when William the Conqueror spotted the comet, I found that the Halley's comet had its perihelion in year 1 of the Christian era and in the year 837 a.D., in the time of King Louis I. We are currently in the year 2024, however really this is the year 2016 a. D., because there is an error (eight-years) in the allocations of historical dates in the first 8 years, it may be because dates were always calculated based on periods of 75 or 76 years, but the exact period of Halley 's comet is 76.03 years, accumulating 8 years, or perhaps because at some point after the year 1066 AD, historians noticed that there is an error (8 years) in the assignment of historical events during the first 8 years of the Christian era and possibly those historians (clerics) thought that the error could be corrected by adding 8 years, but that was not the correct solution, It is necessary to relocate the assignment of historical events during the first 8 years. Whatever it may have been, after the year 1066 A.D., there are 8 extra years until today 2024 A.D (2016 years since the birth of Jesus The Messiah).
Going back in time with exact periods of 76.03 years, from the last perihelion of Halley's Comet in 1986 to the oldest record (China 2290 BC), it is observed that the perihelion of the year 1074 AD corresponds to the historical sighting recorded with date 1066 AD (when Halley's Comet was observed in Normandy and England by William the Conqueror) giving rise to a current accumulated difference of eight (8) years, between the date of historical record (1066) and the date that is supposed to correspond to the exact perihelion (1074). Therefore, if those eight (8) years of difference are subtracted from the date of the last perihelion of the year 1986, we obtain that the year 1986 should be the year 1978. Taking the exact year 1978 as a starting point and Going back in time (subtracting or subtracting) with exact periods of 76.03 years, it is observed that Halley's Comet had its correct perihelion in the year 1065 or 1066 (when it was sighted by William the Conqueror), it also coincides with the historical record from the year 837 when it was sighted by King Louis I (the Pious), reported by a chronicler called "the Astronomer", but also and most importantly, it can be observed that Halley's Comet had its perihelion in the first year, or year one (1) of the Christian Era or time after Christ a.D.
We use Gregorian calendar, at Jesus time they have Julian calendar. Between them have 11 days difference. I copy from one Quora answer: Up until October 4th (a Thursday) of 1582 in the Julian calendar, which was followed the next day by October 15th, (a Friday) of 1582, the first actual day of the Gregorian calendar. No day of the week breaks, just days in the year’s calendar.
Your answer have as reference today. When we talk about 730000 days ago (2000 year) with precision we need a software incorporating the conversion of Gregorian days (as if existed at that time) to Julian days (which really exist at that time), considering no break at week days, at least.
@@RF-fi2pt Thank you for your interest. However, there are not 11 days of difference for each year, but 10 days of total accumulated difference from the year 46 BC to the year 1582 after Christ. This is what the Gegorian Calendar ("Calendario Gregoriano") article says on Wikipedia (in Spanish), I'll translate it for you:
"At the Council of Nicea it was determined that Easter should be commemorated on the Sunday following the full moon after the spring equinox in the northern hemisphere (autumn equinox in the southern hemisphere). That year 325 the equinox had occurred on March 21, but with the passage of time the date of the event had moved forward to the point that in 1582, the gap was already 10 days, and the equinox that same year of 1582 was dated March 11. The gap came from a. inaccurate calculation of the number of days that the tropic year has; according to the Julian calendar that instituted a leap year every four, it was considered that the tropic year was made up of 365.25 days, while the correct figure is 365.2422, or which is the same, 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes and 45.10 seconds. Those more than 11 minutes counted in addition to each year had meant in the 1257 years between 325 and 1582 an accumulated error of approximately 10 days."
My planetarium said it was a conjunction of three planets. Mars, Jupiter, Venus. Around the time of the Christ’s birth.
That also did happen, in 7 BC. I also thought maybe that was significant, but have to say this seems more compelling given the related interpretations.
Thanks for all your work. I’ve been watching your videos for several years now (back when you took really long breaks between posts haha). I’d be curious to know your thoughts on Michael Heiser’s approach to the star of Bethlehem. He favors an autumn date around the feast of trumpets. th-cam.com/video/Dz1ZFkz1QtA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Dave! I've only made it about halfway through, but I wanted to respond before I forgot. I agree with a lot of what he says about setting, etc. but I do prefer Molnar's explanation.
I tend to be skeptical of any interpretation that uses Revelation as the primary scriptural reference--there is just so little interpretive consensus around many of the passages that I want to be cautious about putting to much weight on any understanding that leans heavily on something in Revelation.
Beyond that, what makes Molnar's explanation superior (in my opinion) is that it starts with the ancient understanding and goes from there, rather than looking for unusual things (like the star configuration in revelation) and saying "this is probably it."
Those are my two cents. Thanks for sharing and watching!
*The Star in the east was a company of brightly shinning angels.*
*Bible Symbology / Star = Angel*
*....The seven stars are the angels* of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
*-Revelation 1:20*
The eastern star was a company of angels that only appeared to the wise men. If it were a fixed star or a planet it would have been known to astronomers, kings, priests, scribes, shepherds and common folk alike.
*Matthew 2:1, 2* -tells us that it led the wise men first to Jerusalem and then disappeared without anyone else seeing it. And later as the wise men departed for Bethlehem it reappears and leads them to the manger. (Verses 9,10). No one in Jerusalem seen the star reappear over Bethlehem when the wise men left or Herod would have followed it for himself and found Christ.
Angels can appear, dissappear and then reappear, fixed stars and planets cannot, nor do they hover low directly over a city (Jerusalem) and then reappear and hover over a manger. Angels can show forth their bright shining glory and lead the wise men directly to the manger and yet be invisible to everyone else.
Makes one pause and muse the traditional reasoning of a star or an angel being interchangeable on the top of a Christmas tree now, does it not?
*God Bless You and Your Family This Christmas Season!*
*The Desire of Ages*
*Chapter 6-"We have Seen His Star”*
Audiobook available on TH-cam
This chapter is based on Matthew 2
*“Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the East to Jerusalem, saying, Where is He that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen His star in the East, and are come to worship Him.”*
DA 59.1
The wise men from the East were philosophers. They belonged to a large and influential class that included men of noble birth, and comprised much of the wealth and learning of their nation. Among these were many who imposed on the credulity of the people. Others were upright men who studied the indications of Providence in nature, and who were honored for their integrity and wisdom. Of this character were the wise men who came to Jesus.
DA 59.2
The light of God is ever shining amid the darkness of heathenism. As these magi studied the starry heavens, and sought to fathom the mystery hidden in their bright paths, they beheld the glory of the Creator. Seeking clearer knowledge, they turned to the Hebrew Scriptures. In their own land were treasured prophetic writings that predicted the coming of a divine teacher. Balaam belonged to the magicians, though at one time a prophet of God; by the Holy Spirit he had foretold the prosperity of Israel and the appearing of the Messiah; and his prophecies had been handed down by tradition from century to century. But in the Old Testament the Saviour’s advent was more clearly revealed. The magi learned with joy that His coming was near, and that the whole world was to be filled with a knowledge of the glory of the Lord.
DA 59.3
The wise men had seen a mysterious light in the heavens upon that night when the glory of God flooded the hills of Bethlehem. As the light faded, a luminous star appeared, and lingered in the sky. *It was not a fixed star nor a planet, and the phenomenon excited the keenest interest. That star was a distant company of shining angels,* but of this the wise men were ignorant. Yet they were impressed that the star was of special import to them. They consulted priests and philosophers, and searched the scrolls of the ancient records. The prophecy of Balaam had declared, *“There shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Scepter shall rise out of Israel.” Numbers **24:17**.* Could this strange star have been sent as a harbinger of the Promised One? The magi had welcomed the light of heaven-sent truth; now it was shed upon them in brighter rays. Through dreams they were instructed to go in search of the newborn Prince.
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As by faith Abraham went forth at the call of God, *“not knowing whither he went”*
*(Hebrews 11:8);* as by faith Israel followed the pillar of cloud to the Promised Land, so did these Gentiles go forth to find the promised Saviour. The Eastern country abounded in precious things, and the magi did not set out empty-handed. It was the custom to offer presents as an act of homage to princes or other personages of rank, and the richest gifts the land afforded were borne as an offering to Him in whom all the families of the earth were to be blessed. It was necessary to journey by night in order to keep the star in view; but the travelers beguiled the hours by repeating traditional sayings and prophetic utterances concerning the One they sought. At every pause for rest they searched the prophecies; and the conviction deepened that they were divinely guided. While they had the star before them as an outward sign, they had also the inward evidence of the Holy Spirit, which was impressing their hearts, and inspiring them with hope. The journey, though long, was a happy one to them.
DA 60.2
They have reached the land of Israel, and are descending the Mount of Olives, with Jerusalem in sight, when, lo, the star that has guided them all the weary way rests above the temple, and after a season fades from their view. With eager steps they press onward, confidently expecting the Messiah’s birth to be the joyful burden of every tongue. But their inquiries are in vain. Entering the holy city, they repair to the temple. To their amazement they find none who seem to have a knowledge of the newborn king. Their questions call forth no expressions of joy, but rather of surprise and fear, not unmingled with contempt.
DA 60.3
The priests are rehearsing traditions. They extol their religion and their own piety, while they denounce the Greeks and Romans as heathen, and sinners above others. The wise men are not idolaters, and in the sight of God they stand far higher than do these, His professed worshipers; yet they are looked upon by the Jews as heathen. Even among the appointed guardians of the Holy Oracles their eager questionings touch no chord of sympathy.
DA 61.1
The arrival of the magi was quickly noised throughout Jerusalem. Their strange errand created an excitement among the people, which penetrated to the palace of King Herod. The wily Edomite was aroused at the intimation of a possible rival. Countless murders had stained his pathway to the throne. Being of alien blood, he was hated by the people over whom he ruled. His only security was the favor of Rome. But this new Prince had a higher claim. He was born to the kingdom.
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Herod suspected the priests of plotting with the strangers to excite a popular tumult and unseat him from the throne. He concealed his mistrust, however, determined to thwart their schemes by superior cunning. Summoning the chief priests and the scribes, he questioned them as to the teaching of their sacred books in regard to the place of the Messiah’s birth.
DA 61.3
This inquiry from the usurper of the throne, and made at the request of strangers, stung the pride of the Jewish teachers. The indifference with which they turned to the rolls of prophecy enraged the jealous tyrant. He thought them trying to conceal their knowledge of the matter. With an authority they dared not disregard, he commanded them to make close search, and to declare the birthplace of their expected King. *“And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judea: for thus it is written by the prophet,*
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*“And thou Bethlehem, land of Judah,*
*Art in nowise least among the princes of Judah:*
*For out of thee shall come forth a governor,*
*Which shall be shepherd of My people Israel.”*
R.V.
DA 62.2
Herod now invited the magi to a private interview. A tempest of wrath and fear was raging in his heart, but he preserved a calm exterior, and received the strangers courteously. He inquired at what time the star had appeared, and professed to hail with joy the intimation of the birth of Christ. He bade his visitors, *“Search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found Him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship Him also.”* So saying, he dismissed them to go on their way to Bethlehem.
DA 62.3
The priests and elders of Jerusalem were not as ignorant concerning the birth of Christ as they pretended. The report of the angels’ visit to the shepherds had been brought to Jerusalem, but the rabbis had treated it as unworthy of their notice. They themselves might have found Jesus, and might have been ready to lead the magi to His birthplace; but instead of this, the wise men came to call their attention to the birth of the Messiah. *“Where is He that is born King of the Jews?”* they said; *“for we have seen His star in the East, and are come to worship Him.”*
DA 62.4
Now pride and envy closed the door against the light. If the reports brought by the shepherds and the wise men were credited, they would place the priests and rabbis in a most unenviable position, disproving their claim to be the exponents of the truth of God. These learned teachers would not stoop to be instructed by those whom they termed heathen. It could not be, they said, that God had passed them by, to communicate with ignorant shepherds or uncircumcised Gentiles. They determined to show their contempt for the reports that were exciting King Herod and all Jerusalem. They would not even go to Bethlehem to see whether these things were so. And they led the people to regard the interest in Jesus as a fanatical excitement. Here began the rejection of Christ by the priests and rabbis. From this point their pride and stubbornness grew into a settled hatred of the Saviour. While God was opening the door to the Gentiles, the Jewish leaders were closing the door to themselves.
DA 62.5
The wise men departed alone from Jerusalem. The shadows of night were falling as they left the gates, but to their great joy they again saw the star, and were directed to Bethlehem. They had received no such intimation of the lowly estate of Jesus as was given to the shepherds. After the long journey they had been disappointed by the indifference of the Jewish leaders, and had left Jerusalem less confident than when they entered the city. At Bethlehem they found no royal guard stationed to protect the newborn King. None of the world’s honored men were in attendance. Jesus was cradled in a manger. His parents, uneducated peasants, were His only guardians. Could this be He of whom it was written, that He should *“raise up the tribes of Jacob,”* and *“restore the preserved of Israel;”* that He should be *“a light to the Gentiles,”* and for *“salvation unto the end of the earth”? Isaiah 49:6*
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*“When they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary His mother, and fell down, and worshiped Him.”* Beneath the lowly guise of Jesus, they recognized the presence of Divinity. They gave their hearts to Him as their Saviour, and then poured out their gifts, *-“gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.”* What a faith was theirs! It might have been said of the wise men from the East, as afterward of the Roman centurion, *“I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.”*
*Matthew 8:10*
DA 63.2
The wise men had not penetrated Herod’s design toward Jesus. When the object of their journey was accomplished, they prepared to return to Jerusalem, intending to acquaint him with their success. But in a dream they received a divine message to hold no further communication with him. Avoiding Jerusalem, they set out for their own country by another route.
DA 64.1
In like manner Joseph received warning to flee into Egypt with Mary and the child. And the angel said, *“Be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy Him.”* Joseph obeyed without delay, setting out on the journey by night for greater security.
DA 64.2
Through the wise men, God had called the attention of the Jewish nation to the birth of His Son. Their inquiries in Jerusalem, the popular interest excited, and even the jealousy of Herod, which compelled the attention of the priests and rabbis, directed minds to the prophecies concerning the Messiah, and to the great event that had just taken place.
DA 64.3
Satan was bent on shutting out the divine light from the world, and he used his utmost cunning to destroy the Saviour. But He who never slumbers nor sleeps was watching over His beloved Son. He who had rained manna from heaven for Israel and had fed Elijah in the time of famine provided in a heathen land a refuge for Mary and the child Jesus. And through the gifts of the magi from a heathen country, the Lord supplied the means for the journey into Egypt and the sojourn in a land of strangers.
DA 65.1
The magi had been among the first to welcome the Redeemer. Their gift was the first that was laid at His feet. And through that gift, what privilege of ministry was theirs! The offering from the heart that loves, God delights to honor, giving it highest efficiency in service for Him. If we have given our hearts to Jesus, we also shall bring our gifts to Him. Our gold and silver, our most precious earthly possessions, our highest mental and spiritual endowments, will be freely devoted to Him who loved us, and gave Himself for us.
DA 65.2
Herod in Jerusalem impatiently awaited the return of the wise men. As time passed, and they did not appear, his suspicions were roused. The unwillingness of the rabbis to point out the Messiah’s birthplace seemed to indicate that they had penetrated his design, and that the magi had purposely avoided him. He was maddened at the thought. Craft had failed, but there was left the resort to force. He would make an example of this child-king. Those haughty Jews should see what they might expect in their attempts to place a monarch on the throne.
DA 65.3
Soldiers were at once sent to Bethlehem, with orders to put to death all the children of two years and under. The quiet homes of the city of David witnessed those scenes of horror that, six hundred years before, had been opened to the prophet. *“In Ramah was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.”*
DA 65.4
This calamity the Jews had brought upon themselves. If they had been walking in faithfulness and humility before God, He would in a signal manner have made the wrath of the king harmless to them. But they had separated themselves from God by their sins, and had rejected the Holy Spirit, which was their only shield. They had not studied the Scriptures with a desire to conform to the will of God. They had searched for prophecies which could be interpreted to exalt themselves, and to show how God despised all other nations. It was their proud boast that the Messiah was to come as a king, conquering His enemies, and treading down the heathen in His wrath. Thus they had excited the hatred of their rulers. Through their misrepresentation of Christ’s mission, Satan had purposed to compass the destruction of the Saviour; but instead of this, it returned upon their own heads.
DA 65.5
This act of cruelty was one of the last that darkened the reign of Herod. Soon after the slaughter of the innocents, he was himself compelled to yield to that doom which none can turn aside. He died a fearful death.
DA 66.1
Joseph, who was still in Egypt, was now bidden by an angel of God to return to the land of Israel. Regarding Jesus as the heir of David’s throne, Joseph desired to make his home in Bethlehem; but learning that Archelaus reigned in Judea in his father’s stead, he feared that the father’s designs against Christ might be carried out by the son. Of all the sons of Herod, Archelaus most resembled him in character. Already his succession to the government had been marked by a tumult in Jerusalem, and the slaughter of thousands of Jews by the Roman guards.
DA 66.2
Again Joseph was directed to a place of safety. He returned to Nazareth, his former home, and here for nearly thirty years Jesus dwelt, *“that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.”* Galilee was under the control of a son of Herod, but it had a much larger admixture of foreign inhabitants than Judea. Thus there was less interest in matters relating especially to the Jews, and the claims of Jesus would be less likely to excite the jealousy of those in power.
DA 66.3
Such was the Saviour’s reception when He came to the earth. There seemed to be no place of rest or safety for the infant Redeemer. God could not trust His beloved Son with men, even while carrying forward His work for their salvation. He commissioned angels to attend Jesus and protect Him till He should accomplish His mission on earth, and die by the hands of those whom He came to save.
DA 67.1
⁷ And of the angels he saith, *Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.*
*-Hebrews 1:7*
*¹⁷ The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels:* the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.
*-Psalm 68:17*
² Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: *for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.*
*-Hebrews 13:2*
*....The seven stars are the angels* of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
*-Revelation 1:20*
*"The Bible is it own expositore"*
¹⁰ For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
*-Isaiah 28:10*
*[referring to the Bereans]*
¹¹ These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, *in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.*
*-Acts 17:11*
This is what i believe also. Another interesting thing are angels are also known as saints. Job 15:15 is clear evidence. Job 15: 15Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
There was no man in heaven at this point so this has to be angels
@@kevinboutwell2243 Amen..!
Check out what the Strong's Concordance says the Star was.
¹ Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
² Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his *star[792]* in the east, and are come to worship him.
*-Matthew 2:1, 2*
*Strong's Concordance*
Word: asterh
Pronounce: as-tare'
Strongs Number: *G792*
Orig: probably from the base of 4766; a star (as strown over the sky), *literally or figuratively:* --star. G4766
Use: TDNT-1:503,86 Noun Masculine
Heb Strong: H3556 *H6635*
1) a star
Word: @AV
Pronounce: tsaw-baw'
Strong: *H6635*
Orig: or (feminine) tsbadah \i tseb-aw-aw'\i0\plain\f3\fs21\cf23 ; from 6633; *a mass of persons (or figuratively, things),* especially reg. organized for war (an army); by implication, *a campaign,* *literally or figuratively* (specifically, hardship, worship):--appointed time, (+) army, (+) battle, *company, host,* service, soldiers, waiting upon, war(-fare). H6633
Use: TWOT-1865a,1865b Noun Masculine
Grk Strong: G39 G706 G792 G798 G979 G1411 G1484 G2889 G3009 G3163 G4128 G4171 G4752 G4756 G4519
1) that which goes forth, army, war, warfare, *host*
1a) *army, host*
1a1) host (of organised army)
1a2) *host (of angels)*
1a3) of sun, moon, and stars
1a4) of whole creation
1b) war, warfare, service, go out to war
1c) service
Is he Hungarian, because Molnár is a common surname here, meaning Miller?
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🌖🌗🌘🌒🌓🌔 love it!
Thanks Mike!
Astonomer and Astrologer. These are two different things. They are ancient astronomers. Astronomers study the stars. Astrologers study how the stars steer people’s lives. Christians can be astronomers. Christians cannot be astrologers.
Star of bethlehem is wormwood is lucifer fallen down
Amos 5:5 But seek not Bethel, nor enter into Gilgal, and pass not to Beersheba: for Gilgal shall surely go into captivity, and Bethel shall come to nought.
Amos 5:6 Seek the LORD, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Bethel.
Amos 5:7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood, and leave off righteousness in the earth,
Amos 5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name
Kings are born in aries 30 years after jesus earth shake on pasover 3day darknes.. so work it back jerusalem was destroied it was wen betlehem arias was over bethlehem...the yews know the zodiack it is yewhis knowledge
Of course Aries is looking back at the star because Aries is before Pisces, which was the birth of Christ Pisces the fish Jesus Christ was born on September 11 and his glory is written in the heavens
Jesus was born on December 25 2 BC
No
The Star of Bethlehem was a spacecraft that God's angels travel in. That is why it went over the place of Jesus' (Yashua's) birth, it operated in our atmosphere. It was not in space, even though that is where it came from. In the cloud that Jesus was taken up into was a spacecraft that took him to the throne of God, and it took ten days to get there, at incredible speed, as he said he would send the holy spirit when he arrived at the throne of God, and he left after 40 days of being here after the resurrection, and Pentecost was 50 days after his resurrection. It was a spacecraft that shined the very bright light down on Saul (who was renamed Paul) on the road to Damascus. If you make it into the Kingdom when the second coming happens, you will observe the spacecraft on the ground and you will be told, "That was the star of Bethlehem". When you see the International Space Station go overhead, it looks like a moving star.
I'm sorry Tracy, I honestly can't tell whether you're trolling or genuinely believe that.
@@TheThinkingBeliever Its not a belief, it is a fact. When the second coming happens there will be thousands of spacecraft surrounding the Earth, to fight a battle with the armies of the "Kings of the Earth", in which Jesus and the angels will be victorious, and we (the true Christians) will come back down with them to take over the Earth for 1,000 years.
@@starjetpilot That is a fascinating take. What convinced you of this?
@@TheThinkingBeliever Read Revelation 19:19, where it states that the armies of the Earth prepare to make battle against Jesus and his angels. They are preparing now, as they have seen amazing vehicles in the sky that they cannot explain how they can fly and where they came from, as per a "60 minutes" episode last year, where Fighter Pilots cannot explain the incredible vehicles they have seen, most over the ocean, where they seem to be able to go at tremendous speeds even under water and in the sky. It is just logical that God's angels (who we would call "Aliens") would have to have a way to get here from somewhere far away in space (heaven). They cannot swim through space, and the Bible states that the Star of Bethlehem moved and hovered over the place where Jesus was born. A star or other object up in space cannot move and go over Bethlehem. Isn't it suspicious that when Jesus was taken up, it was a cloud that he was taken up into? Was that cloud hiding something? I think so, as if they saw what was in that cloud they would be very afraid. When we are taken up in the rapture, it will be by the same method that Jesus was taken up, maybe you would call it a "tractor beam", but we are not aware of that technology, maybe it cancels gravity, or causes a REVERSAL of gravity, so the person is repelled away from the Earth, just like taking two magnets and flipping one around, they repel instead of attract. The International Space Station appears to be a moving star, so that is what the ancient people would call it, because they would not know any better.
Fascinating Thought.
There is a decent amount of medieval art that also shows men inside "stars" or ,, what looks like a comet zooming over the sky..
One of the old painting's has a decent looking "modern" looking "UFO"
April 10 the birth of Jesus Christ
March 20. Jesus was a Pisces. "I will make you fishers of men." And the fish was a symbol of Christianity long before the cross. If Jesus had been born in April he'd have been either an Aries or a Taurus.
1. Jesus was born Sunday March 1, 7BC in Bethlehem of Judea, a residential complex about a kilometer from Qumran. It was originally a palace for Hasmonean royalty. It was called the 'Queen's House'. 2. The West Manassah Magi were a priestly caste of Samaritan philosophers. They were founded by Menahem and later led by Simon Zelotes. 3. The 'Star of Bethlehem' was not a cosmological or astronomical event. Joseph (Jesus' father) formed an alliance with Theudas, head of the Theraputes. The 2 in warrior mode gave themselves titles drawn from an OT verse. Joseph was the 'Star' (of David) & Theudas was the 'Scepter'. When the West Manassah Magi 'followed the star', they were agreeing with Joseph that a new Davidic king had been born. Because they recognized him as king, they were accepting him as legitimate. 4. In Septermber, 6 months after Jesus' birth (the month he should have been born in), they came to him & gave him the gold (kingship), frankincense (priesthood ) & myrrh (wisdom/knowledge). Also, Herod died in 4BC. That's why it was said that Jesus was born in the latter reign of Herod the Great.
That's not something I've heard before. Could you share your sources?
close but no cigar. Jesus was born on sep. 11, 3BC because you accept a wrong date for the death of Herod the great. for 1800+ years the death of Herod the great was accepted to be between dec. 29 1BC and passover of 1AD. God has a sense of humor. 3BC coincided with the 750th anniversary of Rome. and the following year, on Feb. 2BC Augustus received the title Pater Patria. it is because of these that the emperor issued a census of the empire. the same year Augustus referred to himself as divi filius, son of god, the real Son of God was revealed to the magi (the gentiles, the world), the epiphany. the puns do not work for 6BC. God has great comedic timing