I always felt the proposal only existed as a way to break them up. The writers wanted Rory to end the show as a single woman, but they neglected to build up to a break up before then, so they had to tack something on. I think if they planned to keep them together, Logan never would have proposed. It existed only for Rory to say no. And for all the reasons some might comment to say why they *should* have broken up, the point is, they *didn't*. In the episode right before they were in a great place.
I dont know, logan seemed to be getting to a point where he would like to commit to her. They had a long blown relationship, the only real relationship logan ever had. I think they couldve built it up more but it didnt really suprise me. Though i do agree that this was a dumb reason to break up over
When the actor of Logan said in the interview “ every one of Rory’s boyfriend came into her life for a reason to teach her a lesson” I 100% agree with it too ❤️✨
@@lauriecarson6483 yeah?? A learning moment. I think they surely learned from her as well. I think relationships are learning moments and people do change between partners
For a long time I wasn't sure if i prefered Jess or Logan. They both challenge Rory but I think why Logan stands out to me is that he helds her accountable. He knows that he is privileged and that rory is too. Everyone always acted like she wasn't because of Lorelai but she totally is. I liked that.
I love that Logan let Rory be herself without trying to convenience her what she should be. He knew what it was like to always have someone trying to tell you what to do so he guided her and was there to pick her up when and if she fell without forcing her to do what he wanted her to do.
What I don't understand is why people want to look down on Logan because his family is rich and he was born privileged. This is the family that he was "BORN" into. Why is this a bad thing that he isn't poor and struggling? Like everyone says he realizes that he is privileged, SO WHAT? People are jealous of that? He actually tries to get away from that and go out on his own, make a name for himself. It didn't work in the end because Rory left him and he kind of decided that it wasn't worth it and he stepped in line with what his family had planned for him all along. Logan was a good guy.
as a Logan stan, thank you. honestly when I watched Gilmore girls I loved jess but then Logan came along and I jumped ship so fast. he was PERFECT for her. I never really got over Tristan leaving but this is what I imagined their story would be like and they were just such a good match. Their chemistry was just off the charts and their relationship felt the most easygoing and natural. He wasn't afraid to call her out and when he did that, he did it gently. their banter is just amazing and that man is just damn charming.
I think Logan was the right fit for Rory (also Matt Czuchry is such a nice man to look at. He is aging like a fine wine). He did have his really bad moments but so did the others. And Jess was no saint either. I really liked, that Rory had to for the first time go out and ask, because before the boys just flogged around her and she did no have to do anything. I did watch just the first episode of the revival and was disapointed in the direction it went and I did not finish it yet. Maybe it is time for original GG marathon followed by the revival.
Totally get where you’re coming from, but food for thought: maybe life without Rory is what ruined him-he didn’t have anyone to stop him from becoming his father.
@@sophiabbrady I absolutely think that you are correct. She gave him purpose and a reason to be better. Without her he really didn't care to fight against his family. He just excepted Odette who they choose for him.
I always thought, Logan was mature, confident, selfaware and knew what he wanted and went for that. Rory seemed not selfaware. She was kind of arrogant, but she was not secure in herself and her abilities as well as her interests. For a lasting relationship between Rory and Logan, Rory would have to work on herself.
I've been a Logan stan since my very first watch back in like 2018. I remember before I watched, everyone always got excited for me to meet Jess and they were hyping him up saying he was their favorite. But when I got to Jess and that storyline, I absolutely hated him 😂 I never understood why Jess was a favorite for Rory's boyfriend. I adored Logan and Rory's relationship. Literally for every reason you stated and more. At this point, there's been a million rewatches and my love for their relationship never faltered. Honestly, I hated the way the show ended for them. The ultimatum didn't make sense to me, and the revival is just not canon to me at all. I have no idea what on earth happened to the relationship.
Logan was just the scapegoat for Rory's bad decisions. People seem to view their relationship in some patriarchal fashion where he was expected to swoop in and save her from the chaos she was reigning down on herself, but instead he supported her as a partner, allowing her to grow and mature at at time where she needed to do that. You see character after character [especially Lorelai] unable to face that Rory was at the root of her own demise [and I use that term loosely- nothing she did was unforgivable] and Logan maturely didn't even put the blame on Rory to defend himself, he's so zen. I love him.
Yes this was exactly what I loved about him as well. He respects her enough to let her make her own mistakes and deal with the consequences herself too. He doesn't put her on a pedestal or needs to act like a white knight, like I think both Jess and Dean do, in their own ways.
Yes! I totally love them together! I get that they have problems, but considering that they are both pretty messy people with a lot of issues, I think it's a sign of their strength, that they are so stable. They just have the best communication, like, most of there fights get resolved fairly quickly by them just talking, which is very refreshing for a TV-couple. Also I love that they support each other, in whatever they do (even if it's as stupid as steeling a boat). As someone who honestly went through a similar phase as Rory in season six (obviously less dramatic, cause it's real life) I think he was one of the few people that acted right, pressuring her to go back to College would have just lead to her pushing him away and ending up completely alone, instead he was just there for her, without judging.
Thank you! Out of all of the guys Logan was the only one who was willing to rise to the occasion of dating Rory genuinely. Jess was not emotionally mature or stable enough to date Rory and when she gave him a chance he hurt her over and over. Dean was good for a first boyfriend but they were both too young and uncommunicative with each other. Also Dean was very controlling and ultimately they held different lifetime priorities. I feel like Logan and Rory met at a time where they were willing to open up for each other. I’m so upset they didn’t end up together because they were really each other’s true loves.
I certainly don't dislike Logan as a partner for Rory, I just was always pretty...unmoved by them? Like, with Luke and Lorelai I was actively chomping at the bit for them to get (or get back) together, but with Rory and Logan they just kind of existed for me, and therefore their overall relationship just felt...fine. I wish that I shipped them harder! But the heart wants what the heart wants haha.
Logan's introduction makes me think that Tristan was end game for Rory. That at some point maybe Tristan was meant to come back and he would have been the main love interest.
@Laurie Carson I mean... sure, but then we need to seriously talk about how messed up what Jess did to Rory at the one party they went to together was...😬 and Rory had cheated before too so like... might as well date eachother
I literally can’t watch GG unless I pretend they ended up together, they 100% belong together 💔 Also I had so much hope for the revival and was SO disappointed by it! Can’t wait for your video on that 💕
I love Rory and Logan with each other and Jess on his own to find someone else. It's really that whole thing where someone was a certain way because of circumstances and grew out of them and in the end would have just been a huge downgrade at that point to go back to him and Rory, just need to keep them friends and he stays doing well for himself. Can't always fault a guy for the way he used to be as a teenager. My fave character in the whole show overall 💕
I think Rory definitely had some unresolved trauma from her previous relationships. Being casual with Logan gave her a lot of anxiety when he didn’t call or update because its a hugeee contrast from how Dean treated her. He was a call her 60 times a day kind of boyfriend. Not to mention how her introduction to love in her teens was constantly having multiple boys into her: Dean, Tristan, Jess, and where they overlapped.
i don't particularly like any of rory's love interests on the show. i hate how both logan and dean cheated on their significant others with rory. and i never forgave jess for trying to pressure her into sex in that one episode at the party, and then throwing a temper tantrum when she didn't want to sleep with him at the party. none of these men are exactly catches imo.
How she acts at the life and death brigade shows me Rory wasn't journalist material. She hammers people with questions, instead of getting involved and getting people talking naturally, she would have got a lot more story.
In my head, after the show ended, Rory became a successful journalist, then a few years later she crossed Logan’s path again, they fell in love all over again, got married and lived happily ever after. And A Year in the Life never existed 🤍 Sometimes you just gotta be a little delusional and invent your own reality lol
I personally despise Logan but loved your analysis. It would be interesting to hear what you have to say about Lorelai, Rory, and Emily’s relationships with one another and the matriarchal structure of the Gilmore family.
Princess Weekes has a video about Rory & Logan, too, btw! The first time I fully rewatched the show after not having seen episodes in years I was like, _oH? .... why am I so into Logan? Where is Team Logan?_ And while I do like Jess and think they are good for each other to an extent, the timing was not right for them and especially taking into account the characters at the time of the show I've come to prefer Logan over Jess for Rory. And I've also found others who have sort of changed their minds or become more open to Logan. I swear when the show was airing and in the years before the revival everyone was either Team Jess or Team Dean and hated or was indifferent to Logan. But now it seems everyone hates Dean and Team Logan has finally shown themselves. I also think this may be because of the maturing of fans. Like, this show aired when I was in elementary and middle school but I rewatched it in my university years. Maybe fans liked Dean and Jess more at the time because they liked that first boyfriend feeling and whirlwind, and even that idea of two boys fighting over you. But now we're past that and recognize how awful Dean was at times and the projections he put on Rory, and how Jess needed time and space to better grow and mature for himself before focusing on another person. I started another rewatch a couple years ago but got caught up in other things and shows I hadn't seen before. But now I need to at least continue up to the Logan episodes!!
i definitely think the age you watch it, changes how you view the boyfriends. As a first time older viewer, Logan is appealing to me but as a kid i probably would have rooted for Jess
the point where i thought logan was the best choice for rory is when he flew from london to meet rory even its for one night and when he dropped everything to help rory and the gilmores when richard got a heart attack
i just finished gg, so im sooooo excited for this series! agreed, that logan and rory were endgame; h was the only one wanted the same future she did! merry christmas x
Re: Logan and him wanting Rory to go back to Yale, I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. I know that many people dislike Jess's approach to confronting Rory on the sudden change in her life but to be frank, Logan's approach was far from perfect either. To me it felt more dismissive and disinterested on his side than him being genuinely supportive, because a) he doesn't really ask WHY she chose to suddenly drop out, she doesnt directly tell him it's because of his father and Logan never prods into that (which Rory later takes it as him silently *agreeing* with Mitchum in her downward spiral; this doesn't necessarily mean that he does, just that she doesn't fully communicate with him about the issue at hand and he never tries to do so, either), b) he doesn't really take it seriously that she is considering to DROP OUT of Yale, not simply take time off, despite the fact that this is what Rory insists on multiple times. I know that the overall Yale arc in season 6 does make it look like Rory was simply taking time off but it certainly didn't start off that way because she and Lorelai got into a big argument over Rory *dropping out* of Yale and not wanting to continue with her studies at all until she "figured out what she wanted to do that wasn't journalism", since she considered herself not good enough for that once Mitchum told her she wasn't. And once Rory moves in with her grandparents, we mostly see her being idle and depressed; she isn't really setting out to find a new life plan for herself or a new career or even some other drive for her, she's stuck in one place and Logan sees that and doesn't really concern himself much with this in spite of that being the opposite of how Rory was like, even in season 5. Now, I don't technically blame Logan for Rory's decision or her not getting back to Yale until Jess visits her, because his very lackadaisical approach just reminded me of how he approaches his own life: his father has everything mapped out for him, so he technically has no need for a motivation or interest in his career, he has everything done for him and this negatively affects him to the point where he has these very severe coping mechanisms to deal with the mental toll of that. But he takes this similar approach to Rory's issue at hand and I honestly don't think that's what *Rory* needed. I think Jess's visit was necessary in a way for her to realize that she can't just let an older, more powerful man like Mitchum tell her what she should or shouldn't be if she wants that for herself and achieves it. In a way, thats what Jess did; he went against all the stuff in his personal life that indicated he was meant to achieve nothing; even Liz and Luke who in a way "gave up" on trying to push him for something greater. And yes, the argument scene doesn't look the greatest but to me it felt more like Jess was concerned than scornful towards Rory for 'not fulfilling what she needed to do'. Like when you look at someone who used to be so driven and also very emotionally close to her mother, and is now languishing with her grandparents and having to worry about who she invites in the house, it's clear that something isn't really right. I think that it also didn't help that Rory simply didn't seem like she was fully happy with her situation either; like saying it was "all temporary", being embarrassed over her involvement with DAR meetings.
Okay and maybe hot take?? The boat thing was almost entirely on Rory!! He literally gave her like three push backs before she pressured him into agreeing to take the boat. She was being an absolute idiot and it’s her fault. She was distressed and feeling bad and she said basically that it was the only thing that would help her feel better! He only did it because of that. Otherwise, he was showing maturity and restrain and it was all her.
Thank youu ! I’ve always thought Logan was her best boyfriend objectively. But he’s also my fav (prob bc he reminds me a lot of my ex in his mannerisms lmao). But so glad u made a video dedicated to explaining why !
I mean, I always appreciated their relationship. However, I can't ever say I like them together. Mainly because Rory thrives when she has nothing. Anytime she is spoilt or life hands her success too easily...she spirals. In contrast, whenever life was hard or she was without, she found her strength and inner motivation. It's for that reason I think Logan isn't the best fit for her. Even in the revival, her literal light at the end of the tunnel only came when she for the second time walked away from all the privilege in her life. This is what Lorelai realized about Rory that she waited for her to realize about herself. Rory's problems are always heightened the closer she is to the privileged world she was introduced to through her grandparents.
"...for example, when they stole a boat together - that was a really stupid thing to do - ", hahhaha idk why but this made me lauuuuuugh. So fun, thanks for making this video, I'm glad you enjoyed gilmore girls!
I was okay with Logan until the end when he broke up with Rory because she wanted to take some growing time after college-even though he had-it was spoiled and immature. Actually I think Martie would have made a better partner for her. They had the same values, work ethic and liked each other as friends. Or Jess-post novel.
0:27 in and i aready love it; excited to see what you say about the proposal! that was the moment i really disliked when it comes to him (besides from some other small ones but overall i'm also a Logan stan!)
when you look at all Logan's actions he is much better than Dean and Jess, it's just the presentation people dislike even though he makes clear his snobby behaviour is merely teasing and joking with a sprinkle of ignorance privledge, but he is sooo on Rory's level, is witty and fun like Lorelai and posh and rich like Richard and Emily, he was so perfect for her!!
Can u also do a character analysis on lorelie as well I'd like to know your oppinion on her character and decisions as an adult woman and mother as well
Part 2: -that was when he stole something. Logan is a full-fledged character. I am not praising him for no reason. It's like people forget he's been around rich assholes his whole life. Have you seen his friends? That's something they would've done. He's changed a lot for Rory, in every aspect and it is mentioned. Everyone's surprised he even has a girlfriend. He would've never cared that the Daily news didn't put out a paper that day. And he would've never tried to go for his dream for a bit unless Rory has made an impact on him. But before that? There are only stories of him being a rich brat who's only trying to forget how much baggage that comes with. He can't even choose his job, his wife, or anything really so of course, he acted out. Who wouldn't? But after being like that for so long, out of pain, and powerlessness he picked up a few things. He didn't stand there quietly, asking, like: what? It's like he just realized what he's done and how his ways are incorrect by being near Rory once again and had no way to explain it because to him too, stealing didn't really make much sense cause the rich didn't even ever notice they stole stuff so why do it? Also, remember his apartment? Every item had a personality. That armor he has in his place is a metaphor if you think about it and also...it's not the best armor. Not once did Rory ever praise his paintings or anything as she did at his parents' house. It's all him. So in a way, yeah. He saw all that rich stuff and went: they wouldn't notice because rich people in his life literally only got stuff because they're rare and expensive. But stealing it was his friend's way of hurting their parents without them noticing and he did that there too. Only to realize that...Emily is rich but she cares about what she owns too. Her family, too, is new to him so he doesn't know how to react either. They're not the same as his parents or most rich people he's met. They're also: unique so he's kind of embarrassed. Also, this was his moment to impress Rorry's family. Yes? But how did he impress the people he ever wanted to impress? His friends. A...stealing stuff from the people they had to obey or else they'd get no money seems like something they'd like. Reason 4: treating Jess badly. I thought it was self-explanatory. Did Jess deserve it? No. But that was the point. it had nothing to do with him. Logan was in a really bad place then if I remember correctly because his parents were pressuring him into stuff and also, he was jealous but angry this time. The first time it was cute? When it was a friend of his but which we didn't really know much about if anything. Now,, he's an ass because he tried to directly offend Jess, who we know more about, and like....we got offended instead. But he was trying to make him seem lesser in Rory's eyes with every comment. The same thing he did the first time he got jealous when she showed up with his friend so she'd ditch him. But there it was less angry. Here, he can't hide his anger because he probably taught they were past this. They were dating, not only 'friends with benefits'. And when he failed to make him look bad because he wasn't his charming self, he left because his tactic failed. And anything else he would've done would've made it worse. The only way he could've calmed down and leveled with Rory to explain what he felt or whatever was if she went home with him where he would've felt safer, and Jess would've been gone. But she refused. (Ps: Rich people are mean in this show. You've seen how his family treated Rory. And how Emily treats others. Well...he knows how to put others down. He's had training. He basically told Jess that unless he had a billion-dollar company, nothing he does is ever good enough which is what he's probably been told. That's why there was a line like: is it the greatest American novel or nah? Like he had to aim high or else, what are you celebrating? Basically, it's not worth it man. Not to mention, he himself, was upset at his parents then, I think... but he's had to deal with that his whole life, so he took out not only his jealousy on Jess but his insecurities too. The ways he's been belittled. Also...did we all forget how Jess had fought with not only Dead but anyone before...like anger-wise, Jess was in a good place then. Logan wasn't. They are both capable of controlling their anger, but in that case, for the first time, I think, might I add, Jess, controlled himself. But Logan couldn've lashed out a lot of times and didn't do it) Also, him forgetting that they cheered made me think he was already drunk, more than anything. -Sleeping with his sister's friends thingy. I think it was the easiest for him to do. They were close to someone he knew so he didn't have to go out of his way to find someone. Accessibility. And from the viewer's point of view, it kinda shows how little he cared about who it was because they were so close to his own sister and yet, he still did it. And he called them that because for him they were worthless. Just like a bottle of something is worthless when you're trying to get really drunk because of someone. They're just a device to forget someone important. And by calling them that, it also diminished their importance to Rory's eyes. Not to mention, none of them were able to get him. Like none of them did anything but sleep with him. So...what does that say about them? I am not saying he didn't do anything wrong though or that he's justified even though he was in a lot of pain after losing the only real thing he ever got for himself, by himself, but they all said yes too. They were all in it. Consensual. He proved he cared about consent. So... he was in a lot of pain but they weren't. So...who was using who? Reason 6: Coming to terms with the relationship with his father. Of course not. This show showed years of everyone's lives. Nothing that complicated could've been solved that easily. That wouldn't have been realistic. And that would've really taken years of him hating himself for being someone who he didn't want to be for his family to get him to rip himself from his whole family, friends, current job, and lifestyle really. All he's ever known. Rory's mom was young when she left but Logan's youth was spent in their claws. Imagine Lorelay if she did abort the child and kept living with them. A mess right? Cause they had similar conditions but Richard never pressured her to take his job, he pressured Christopher who refused. But Logan couldn't refuse. He was the guy of his family. And he didn't have any life-altering event that could've allowed him to go right or left early on...like having a child. He had to cope. And he chose to cope too. Instead of escape. He's similar to Rory's mom but different because he chooses to keep playing the part his father wanted him to play even if it was to 'have fun while he still could because his father didn't care enough yet'. And also why Lorelay hates him. Because he didn't have the guts to say no to his rich life and family for good. Ever. It's 4 30 AM. Why did I write all of this? Because I felt like you didn't realize all this or just didn't mention it. But I kind of get where he's coming from so I can see through his actions more. The pain of him being in his family's claws cause like, he is literally, clearly numbing the pain of it while he can until he's no longer allowed to do anything but work until death...well...for me, I got it. I get him. And I think people saw him as just someone who just gets drunk a lot and complains about his money. But it was never about his money. Money does make your life better. But in this case, all he got is money at the expense of everything else and that hurts. Like I'd rather not be rich than not be able to do the job that I want, spend time with who I want (cause they criticized his friends too), date and marry who I want, etc. Like his life is not his own. All we saw was this brief window of breath he had before his dad would've slammed it in his face. He literally said that his father had it all planned out for him so why would he study? Why would he do anything else? It wouldn't matter. Having a girlfriend? Why when they would choose someone else anyway? Probably someone who made sense business-wise and nothing else. Like...think about it. It would suck. Also, his father is a famous, rich, notorious, well-known journalist. Like...he can get dirt on anyone so of course, they're going to listen to him if he says: fire my son 'cause then he'll work for me. Like..there's no place for him to go, man. Or not a lot of places where he'd feel lie he's worth anything after being instilled with the: you gotta make a lot of money or else you might as well serve drinks. His worth it's attached to his job, money, status, etc. And they could all get taken away at the snap of their fingers. Go watch the rest.
Logan never wanted Rory to be a stay at home wife. I cannot agree with that as a valid reason for people to dislike him, because it was factually untrue. His family said that's the kind of wife he needed. Logan never said or indicated he wanted that. You said why he didn't push Rory to go back to Yale. It wasn't because he would be making a lot of money so she didn't need a career. No, it's because he believed she would eventually go back. And I don't think he felt taking a break (because he saw it as simply a break) was this crisis that everyone else did. Even in the totally contrived proposal, he showed he wasn't looking for a stay at home wife. He made a point of telling her she would be living close to two newspapers that she could work for.
yes thank you! The only reason I don't like the couple anymore is because I honestly think Logan deserves better. But it was obvious in all his actions that he didn't want a housewife and wanted her to work. I would even say him trying to marry her and move away together was a way to open doors for her away from his father. I don't think he would have pressured her to take his name but he wanted her to be able to make it.
I always thought it was odd that they never really brought up the fact that this was logan fist real relationship when the whole thing of him supposedly cheating on rory came up. Like he hasnt had a relationship befor he wouldnt know what takeing a break ment and if rory had just explained it to him it would have made more sence like hes never done this befor and she had a good amount of experience by that point she could have at least communicated better knowing he hadn't done commitment befor let alone the concept of a break ( which os a confusing concept in my opinion).
I will admit, being quite young when I watched the show--I loved Dean and held onto that idealization of first love for too long. I will still hold that he was a good first boyfriend for Rory, and was wronged by her behavior with Jess. But even after they sank the Dean/Rory ship, I was bitter towards anyone else Rory might like (although I did think for a bit that Marty could have been a genuinely nice guy). Instead of realizing Dean and Rory were over, I really saw Logan as another Jess 2.0. Just another bad boy making Rory act out, coming between her and Dean when in my young mind "after all the mess they caused to BE together, they should at least STAY together... they just need to work things out without Rory getting distracted by bad boys" ...Growing up, means I NOW realize now that there was no going back to what Rory and Dean once had. The innocence was gone. They'd grown apart. The compatibility was gone. And I will still hold that I don't really get what Rory sees in Playboy Logan initially, other than looks (I also NEVER EVER understood what she saw in Jess). And I will admit that the Life Or Death Brigade is not really my idea of romance. BUT!!! I am not Rory!!! I've come to fully appreciate the way that Rory and Logan fit together and work well together and grow together. Once they are in a committed relationship, they are so adorable together. They have such good chemistry, and they can talk about anything from pop culture to work to family to books to disagreements. He respected her mother and stood up to his family for Rory. As I've grown up, I've become fully on Team Logan, and I believe not marrying Logan was the biggest mistake of her life.
I have different Opinions on Logan as a Character, Logan and Rory's Relationship and Logan in the Revival. I like Logan as a Character, like a lot of Logan and Rory except for their Communication Issues ec. but that's both of them but I despise Logan in the Revival. Also... Daddy Issues much? When I first saw him I was reminded so much of Chris.
The thing about the revival is his growth in season 7 was purposely ignored. So, I don't even factor the revival in. Some might say you can't erase the revival, since it happened, but the revival ignored season 7.
LOGANS ENTIRE PERSONALITY IS "I HATE MY DAD BUT I STILL WANT HIS MONEY. POOR ME. OH IM A POOR LITTLE RICH BOY" HES NOTHING OF THE MISUNDERSTOOD HERO U SO CLAIM THAT HE IS. INFACT HES THE MOST ONE DIMENSIONAL CHARACTER ON THE SHOW.
Yes, like, why do ppl call *Rory* spoiled when Logan is such a spoiled guy who doesn't seem to have many talents besides doing pranks (even during important lectures), spending his father's money and complaining about not having many options bc his father would "force" his professional path which is weird bc he could do sth different if he just chose to live a less privileged life without daddy's money.
Logan treated everyone who wasn't Rich like crap, he wasn't really caring. Also I don't think him proposing to Rory was genuine at all either but rather just a way to force her to go to California with him. And between the boat stealing, how he responded to her quitting school, sleeping with 5+ girls within a month of them breaking up and how he dropped her like a hot egg when she asked him for a minute to think about the proposal because she needed to think about her career he didn't really want what was best for her he just wanted a woman beside him.
Logan did not treat people who weren't rich like crap in my opinion. I found him very respectful except he could have been a little nicer to Marty in the beginning but he didn't say anything that wasn't true and he wasn't trying to be mean. Also Rory turning down Logan's proposal was the worse thing that she could have done. She never recovered from that poor decision. Logan could have helped her significantly with their career or not if she wanted to do it on her own. He was not the kind of person that would force her into anything.. He would have offered help if she needed it but he would have encouraged her in her job, whatever it was.
@@Tessiefaye "worse thing that she could have done"??How is someone who just graduated saying they can’t just pack up their entire life to move to California with you after you gave them 24hrs to think about it the worst decision?
@@Makasituation because she could have suggested moving in with him but not getting married yet. Forming new experiences outside of new england would be good for her
@@TheMarkmcr Not wanting to pack up your life and move to the California, and put your career on the back burner is not "the worst decision" , especially when the person you'd be moving for gives you a *single day* to think about it. I don't understand how people can rationalize this, and she was quite literally trying to be a foreign correspondent not work for the LA Times, she would have still traveled around the world.
Ok I've NEVER realized that Logan and Lorelei are a lot alike. I've always compared him to Christopher, but yeah, Logan is like Lorelai if Lorelai hadn't had a make-or-break moment that FORCED her time flee when she did
I'm a year late to comment here, but this only popped up yesterday in my feed. I LOVE your viewpoint on Logan and agree with it all. Tku! Best defense of the L&R ship I've heard to battle so much hate out there for him!! I wanted them endgame too. I love your in depth and nuanced analysis of him, good & flawed, all while still loving him best with Rory. (Everyone in GG is flawed!) Anyway, I agree. I love him. I get your assessment of Jess too...fair. I also liked Dean as the first bf, and understood why he behaved as he did eventually...he sensed her slipping away and not being honest. I always say I have never "hated" any of the GG characters...though I wasn't a Jess fan in S2, but I still agree about the chemistry, and the purpose he served at that time, the bad boy, exciting, unpredictable guy attraction. I also understand his bad background, youth he outgrew eventually. So glad he became a better man. Still, I liked them better as friends...still saw her with Logan. Hated that they broke them up, (unrealistic, as she was so in love with him & seemingly just "moved on.") Then what they did in AYITL. In my mind...it's his baby, which I believe it really is, and they DO wind up back together. I guess you're done with GG deep dives, but I'd have loved to have heard your assessment of Lorelai's relationships, especially her and Luke.
I have always been team Jess because she would have a laid back lifestyle, and she could opt in and out of the limelight she wanted. But you really made me see Logan in another light. I always thought he would be second choice, but I just thought that Rory does not want to be a socialite fulltime. That would be her position as his wife. But if the show went on they could show her growing into being able to do that role. As long as she would be willing to become her grandmother then he would be perfect. But if she ultimately wants to live a similar life to her mother then Jess would be great. Thanks for this video, it really opened my eyes.
I'm so glad that the video gave you a different perspective! I really think her and Logan could have worked, if they adapted more to each other's lifestyles
@@SerenaSkybourne Yes. I think the answer for me has always been based on which lifestyle she would really want. That's where her choice in a perfect match would lye.
As the series goes on I start to not want Rory with anybody lol. I actually cannot stand the revival episodes and the way Rory's relationships are portrayed in them. I guess unpopular opinion but I always had a soft spot for Dean but only early Dean not later Dean lol. I could not care less about Jess and am ambivalent about Logan hahaha
I really liked dean in the pilot but felt like he immediately started a downward trajectory. It's subtle at first but by season 2...oh boy, season 2, they did a character assassination on Dean. It's like he's not even the same character. I'm pretty sure the writers view Jess as Rory's Luke so anytime he's around any and all other boyfriends just start acting crazy for no apparent reason and their characters do a 180. Don't get me wrong, I like Jess, especially in the later seasons, but they definitely make the other guys look bad to prop up Jess whenever he's around. I also really hated Dean the second time around when they got back together after he cheated on Lindsey. I could just never get on board after that and felt like everything I had liked about the character was gone.
@@RachaelTheRed I think my opinion of Dean is coloured by the age I was when I first watched the show. Dean was basically the perfect first boyfriend in the same way that I felt Harvey from Sabrina the Teenage Witch was a perfect first boyfriend lol. On rewatch and as an adult now rather than a teenager Dean definitely is not perfect yet I still find myself enjoying when he and Rory are together in the beginning. Definitely character assassination happened however because Dean has lots of flaws and they are not easy to get over
It’s really dumb for the writer to leave Rory telling Logan no to his proposal because she liked the fact things were open for her. Then I’m the reboot having her so unsure of her self and her life. What a rip off ya know.
I thought you said “hide a coffee cart guy” instead of hiring a coffee cart guy and it made me think of Logan just hiding coffee guys around for Rory to find 😂
My issue with Logan haters is that he cheated (he didn't) and that he's rich. They all forget that Rory cheated multiple times on boyfriends and in the revival is the other woman, and is from money herself. So weird.
Also, we need to understand if Gilmore Girls is really like what the revival says - written from Rorys POV - then the introduction of Logan makes sense. She had never met anyone like him before so everything about him is avant garde and out of the world. He might have had an opinion on blue collar workers but Rory - so shell shocked took what he said perhaps made it more jarring than it was. Which also shows his slight/softening of his character over time because Rory slowly got used to his Chuck Bass-sism and grew to be "One of them". 35:05
Serena, I truly like that you talk so in deep about Gilmore Girls. I am definitely thinking Jess understood Rory the way no one else did, even if he wasn't ready for a long-term relationship. My thoughts are the following: Rory was not formed as a woman when dating Dean and Jess, although it was clear that with Jess she felt a different kind of attraction, something more spicey. And later on, unfortunately, I do see her as kind of lost. She has some things she believes in, but she is also quite lost and not grounded, so it felt like she was with Logan because the script was like this, not because she was truly having crazy attraction towards Logan. Maybe if Logan was played by another actor, the attraction would have been more believable. Rory is in constant search and feels insecure to me.
another reason that I didn't initially like Logan which wasn't mentioned: envy. he's handsome and charismatic enough to overcome that awful first impression. most guys would not be able to dig themselves out of that hole. i understand he only has a little influence over his looks (but that's aided by money) and that his charisma was developed as a way to help get out of trouble and avoid accountability... but he can stop being irresponsible and still have the charisma he honed in his rebellion youth. i wouldn't make many of the mistakes he made, but I'm envious of the people skills he was able to gain while he was protected from failure. therefore I initially hated him. Rory is not the prize they portray her as, she'd be a hard woman to live with. so it's almost like he gets karmic punishment by being entangled with her. so knowing how it plays out, i kinda like the character. he has many admirable qualities and a lot of lousy ones, which are treated as flaws. so he's a decent character for a television show (still wouldn't want him in my life though).
Prob when they stole the yacht even tho it’s horrible but I love how he didn’t want her to do it but decided it’s better that if she’s going to then he’d do it too, also when him and fynn make that scene in one of her classes. Tbh I love most Logan moments, NOT ALL but most
People don't seem to like how he went back to working for his dad in ayitl, but I think (in light of the recession) it shows how he's finally learned to put responsibility above his sense of pride
I always thought the “we were on a break” argument flimsy for Logan. Yea he Thought they broke up but he never asked or said it? Like do people just break up without telling the other person and them not being shitty?
Logan is by far my favorite of Rory boyfriend, and is only threatened by Luke for favorite character. I go back and forth with whos 1st and 2nd But Rory and Logan are my favorite couple by far
I find Logan the most interesting of Rory's bfs, but I think he is disqualified because I dont think he can REALLY walk away from his family's money or narcissistic hoovering and will forever be manipulated to make choices against his heart, including Rory, however much he hates it.
Actually, even if I liked them as a couple, i felt the ending of it made sense. I was a little sad that she wasn't willing to marry him, but still, it made sense that he didn't want to go backwards and I never felt they would have had a great marriage in the long run. I also felt like she never truly forgave him for "cheating", to me she never completely built the trust back, and because of that she was talking to Paris about choosing the career first even before the proposal.
I agree with you completely. Logan and Rory were perfect for each other. Dean was too insecure and Jesse too temperamental, but Logan was someone who understood her and let his love for her guide him towards becoming an adult in an organic way (as opposed to "I'm gonna pretend I'm what she wants so that I can get what I want out of her" kind of way). The ultimatum part wasn't great -- although I completely understand his mindset, it is difficult to come up with a logical reason to delay starting a life with someone you _want_ to start a life with, and Rory's reasoning here makes no sense to me -- but it was even less great that Rory was revealed to be the person who only wants what she can't have, which didn't feel true to her character either.
The last season of the show wasn’t written by the shows creator and show runner. The network fired her for whatever reason and she hates the last season. I would have loved to have seen what she did with it. Although after the new stuff on Netflix I don’t know that I like how her characters never really change and eventually become the villain because they keep repeating the same pattern over and over.
As far as AYITL goes, we must take that as cannon because ASP wrote it. However I think it seems odd and off because of ASP would have written a Season 7 and maybe a Season 8 these plot lines of AYITL would have happened to Rory at age 21/22 rather then age 32 and would have been accepted more smoothly. ASP wants Logan to be Christopher and Jess to be Luke. ASP wants Jess to ultimately be with Rory like Luke is with Lorelei. She wants Logan to maybe reluctantly propose to Rory like Christopher did to Lorelei when he found out she was pregnant. ASP wants the plot to come full circle and as much as I love Logan and can’t stand Jess, our boy Logan will not wind up with pregnant Rory, loser Jess will.
Rory crying on the bathroom floor doesn’t show that she really cares about Logan it shows that her childhood trauma is triggered. She’s desperate to get the attention and affection from this unavailable charming guy. Rory is just another person who feels she has to earn love. It makes much more sense why she had trouble telling Dean she loved him. It probably felt to easy for her and like she didn’t deserve it. Bad boy Jess probably attracted her because she felt she could fix him and make him the perfect boyfriend. And now here’s emotionally unavailable Logan. And once he charms his way into her heart and she’s hooked, every time he pulls away she will get triggered to try to win his love and feel worthless when he doesn’t give it. It’s fantasy land to think that these types of relationships with these types of guys can work. It doesn’t. They break your heart and you end up writing a 10 minute song called All Too Well.
I adore Logan. Was he perfect? Of course not. No one is. But he got her, he challenged her, and he loved her. Rory was a fool not to marry him. She would have had a great life instead of floundering around and sleeping with Wookiee’s!
I always felt the proposal only existed as a way to break them up. The writers wanted Rory to end the show as a single woman, but they neglected to build up to a break up before then, so they had to tack something on. I think if they planned to keep them together, Logan never would have proposed. It existed only for Rory to say no. And for all the reasons some might comment to say why they *should* have broken up, the point is, they *didn't*. In the episode right before they were in a great place.
Exactly!!!
I dont know, logan seemed to be getting to a point where he would like to commit to her. They had a long blown relationship, the only real relationship logan ever had. I think they couldve built it up more but it didnt really suprise me. Though i do agree that this was a dumb reason to break up over
THANKYOU! They were literally doing so well right before the breakup. It made no sense, and was a moment of forced character drama
When the actor of Logan said in the interview “ every one of Rory’s boyfriend came into her life for a reason to teach her a lesson” I 100% agree with it too ❤️✨
To teach hsr a lession. Really
@@lauriecarson6483 yeah?? A learning moment. I think they surely learned from her as well. I think relationships are learning moments and people do change between partners
Logan was actually a healthy, stable relationship. Shocker! Now that I'm older, I've graduated from Team Jess to Team Logan.
For a long time I wasn't sure if i prefered Jess or Logan. They both challenge Rory but I think why Logan stands out to me is that he helds her accountable. He knows that he is privileged and that rory is too. Everyone always acted like she wasn't because of Lorelai but she totally is. I liked that.
Yep Logan was so right
I love that Logan let Rory be herself without trying to convenience her what she should be. He knew what it was like to always have someone trying to tell you what to do so he guided her and was there to pick her up when and if she fell without forcing her to do what he wanted her to do.
Kind of remarkable that he acknowledges his privilege like that when you think about it
What I don't understand is why people want to look down on Logan because his family is rich and he was born privileged. This is the family that he was "BORN" into. Why is this a bad thing that he isn't poor and struggling? Like everyone says he realizes that he is privileged, SO WHAT? People are jealous of that? He actually tries to get away from that and go out on his own, make a name for himself. It didn't work in the end because Rory left him and he kind of decided that it wasn't worth it and he stepped in line with what his family had planned for him all along. Logan was a good guy.
I love Logan because he is proud of what his family achieved. Lorelei was always ashamed of her family’s wealth.
as a Logan stan, thank you. honestly when I watched Gilmore girls I loved jess but then Logan came along and I jumped ship so fast. he was PERFECT for her. I never really got over Tristan leaving but this is what I imagined their story would be like and they were just such a good match. Their chemistry was just off the charts and their relationship felt the most easygoing and natural. He wasn't afraid to call her out and when he did that, he did it gently. their banter is just amazing and that man is just damn charming.
I think Logan was the right fit for Rory (also Matt Czuchry is such a nice man to look at. He is aging like a fine wine). He did have his really bad moments but so did the others. And Jess was no saint either. I really liked, that Rory had to for the first time go out and ask, because before the boys just flogged around her and she did no have to do anything. I did watch just the first episode of the revival and was disapointed in the direction it went and I did not finish it yet. Maybe it is time for original GG marathon followed by the revival.
trueee, all the lads had their bad moments. Not just Logan :)
Logan was easily the best of Rory's boyfriends- and the revival isn't canon, so I don't have to care that they ruined him to make Jess seem better.
Jess was boring and in my opinion Rory would have been miserable with him. What did he do for fun?
Totally get where you’re coming from, but food for thought: maybe life without Rory is what ruined him-he didn’t have anyone to stop him from becoming his father.
@@sophiabbrady I absolutely think that you are correct. She gave him purpose and a reason to be better. Without her he really didn't care to fight against his family. He just excepted Odette who they choose for him.
Neither Logan or Jess deserve to be cheated on….and Rory has a pattern 💀
The revival isn’t canon??? Thank goodness! What they said about Lorelai being adopted lives rent free in my head for years
I always thought, Logan was mature, confident, selfaware and knew what he wanted and went for that. Rory seemed not selfaware. She was kind of arrogant, but she was not secure in herself and her abilities as well as her interests. For a lasting relationship between Rory and Logan, Rory would have to work on herself.
For me it was the oppisote. Logan was so arrogant and thought everyone beneath him.
I've been a Logan stan since my very first watch back in like 2018. I remember before I watched, everyone always got excited for me to meet Jess and they were hyping him up saying he was their favorite. But when I got to Jess and that storyline, I absolutely hated him 😂 I never understood why Jess was a favorite for Rory's boyfriend. I adored Logan and Rory's relationship. Literally for every reason you stated and more. At this point, there's been a million rewatches and my love for their relationship never faltered. Honestly, I hated the way the show ended for them. The ultimatum didn't make sense to me, and the revival is just not canon to me at all. I have no idea what on earth happened to the relationship.
Logan was just the scapegoat for Rory's bad decisions. People seem to view their relationship in some patriarchal fashion where he was expected to swoop in and save her from the chaos she was reigning down on herself, but instead he supported her as a partner, allowing her to grow and mature at at time where she needed to do that. You see character after character [especially Lorelai] unable to face that Rory was at the root of her own demise [and I use that term loosely- nothing she did was unforgivable] and Logan maturely didn't even put the blame on Rory to defend himself, he's so zen. I love him.
Yes this was exactly what I loved about him as well. He respects her enough to let her make her own mistakes and deal with the consequences herself too. He doesn't put her on a pedestal or needs to act like a white knight, like I think both Jess and Dean do, in their own ways.
Yes! I totally love them together! I get that they have problems, but considering that they are both pretty messy people with a lot of issues, I think it's a sign of their strength, that they are so stable. They just have the best communication, like, most of there fights get resolved fairly quickly by them just talking, which is very refreshing for a TV-couple. Also I love that they support each other, in whatever they do (even if it's as stupid as steeling a boat). As someone who honestly went through a similar phase as Rory in season six (obviously less dramatic, cause it's real life) I think he was one of the few people that acted right, pressuring her to go back to College would have just lead to her pushing him away and ending up completely alone, instead he was just there for her, without judging.
I agree that if he was rly harsh with her about going back to Yale, he risked losing her too or pushing her away. He definitely had to be tactful
Thank you! Out of all of the guys Logan was the only one who was willing to rise to the occasion of dating Rory genuinely. Jess was not emotionally mature or stable enough to date Rory and when she gave him a chance he hurt her over and over. Dean was good for a first boyfriend but they were both too young and uncommunicative with each other. Also Dean was very controlling and ultimately they held different lifetime priorities.
I feel like Logan and Rory met at a time where they were willing to open up for each other. I’m so upset they didn’t end up together because they were really each other’s true loves.
exactly! Jess had so much potential but when he met Rory he wasn't ready to court her properly
I certainly don't dislike Logan as a partner for Rory, I just was always pretty...unmoved by them? Like, with Luke and Lorelai I was actively chomping at the bit for them to get (or get back) together, but with Rory and Logan they just kind of existed for me, and therefore their overall relationship just felt...fine. I wish that I shipped them harder! But the heart wants what the heart wants haha.
Logan is the best!!! Thank u for this 😭I was so confused when I saw ppl didn’t like him??? Like?? How!?!?
Logan's introduction makes me think that Tristan was end game for Rory. That at some point maybe Tristan was meant to come back and he would have been the main love interest.
sameee i had a strong intuition about that too
@@SerenaSkybournethere is a lot in common from the nickname, to his behaviour to how he acts there is so much.
I haven’t even watched the whole video yet but I had to stop to comment. You look STUNNING in this video. Your hair looks soooo fantastic!
Omg thankyou 😭😭
Justice for Logan 😔 so glad to see someone defend him as the Endgame for once!!
he definitely deserves more credit than he gets hah
Whhat justice there is no justice for a cheater
@Laurie Carson I mean... sure, but then we need to seriously talk about how messed up what Jess did to Rory at the one party they went to together was...😬 and Rory had cheated before too so like... might as well date eachother
@@lauriecarson6483tbf to Logan, he thought the relationship with Rory was over at the time so it's a great area there
I literally can’t watch GG unless I pretend they ended up together, they 100% belong together 💔
Also I had so much hope for the revival and was SO disappointed by it! Can’t wait for your video on that 💕
aww i totally get that, i've heard so many negative things about the revival
I feel like the revival just pretended like season 7 did exist.
I love Rory and Logan with each other and Jess on his own to find someone else. It's really that whole thing where someone was a certain way because of circumstances and grew out of them and in the end would have just been a huge downgrade at that point to go back to him and Rory, just need to keep them friends and he stays doing well for himself. Can't always fault a guy for the way he used to be as a teenager. My fave character in the whole show overall 💕
Im the “life and death” episode where Rory said to Logan” ‘u jump, I jump jack’ “ I was 🥹😍🥰✨
I fell in love
I’m excited for this series, I LOVE Gilmore girls!❤
I think Rory definitely had some unresolved trauma from her previous relationships. Being casual with Logan gave her a lot of anxiety when he didn’t call or update because its a hugeee contrast from how Dean treated her. He was a call her 60 times a day kind of boyfriend. Not to mention how her introduction to love in her teens was constantly having multiple boys into her: Dean, Tristan, Jess, and where they overlapped.
I’ve never seen Gilmore girls but I will watch every video essay you make abt it ! I love deep dives
I've never watched Gilmore Girls but your hair looks super pretty in this vid
Aww stop it you 🙈
looking forward to the video-series! can't get enough of gilmore girls video essays; thanks
this is going to be such a fun series!
SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT!!!!! Thank you for representing my opinion
With pleasure 😘😜
i don't particularly like any of rory's love interests on the show. i hate how both logan and dean cheated on their significant others with rory. and i never forgave jess for trying to pressure her into sex in that one episode at the party, and then throwing a temper tantrum when she didn't want to sleep with him at the party. none of these men are exactly catches imo.
How she acts at the life and death brigade shows me Rory wasn't journalist material.
She hammers people with questions, instead of getting involved and getting people talking naturally, she would have got a lot more story.
Blah blah blah
@@lauriecarson6483 Thanks for coming!
In my head, after the show ended, Rory became a successful journalist, then a few years later she crossed Logan’s path again, they fell in love all over again, got married and lived happily ever after. And A Year in the Life never existed 🤍 Sometimes you just gotta be a little delusional and invent your own reality lol
I personally despise Logan but loved your analysis. It would be interesting to hear what you have to say about Lorelai, Rory, and Emily’s relationships with one another and the matriarchal structure of the Gilmore family.
It is called he is just not that into you when Logan did not ask Rory out.
Princess Weekes has a video about Rory & Logan, too, btw!
The first time I fully rewatched the show after not having seen episodes in years I was like, _oH? .... why am I so into Logan? Where is Team Logan?_ And while I do like Jess and think they are good for each other to an extent, the timing was not right for them and especially taking into account the characters at the time of the show I've come to prefer Logan over Jess for Rory. And I've also found others who have sort of changed their minds or become more open to Logan. I swear when the show was airing and in the years before the revival everyone was either Team Jess or Team Dean and hated or was indifferent to Logan. But now it seems everyone hates Dean and Team Logan has finally shown themselves. I also think this may be because of the maturing of fans. Like, this show aired when I was in elementary and middle school but I rewatched it in my university years. Maybe fans liked Dean and Jess more at the time because they liked that first boyfriend feeling and whirlwind, and even that idea of two boys fighting over you. But now we're past that and recognize how awful Dean was at times and the projections he put on Rory, and how Jess needed time and space to better grow and mature for himself before focusing on another person. I started another rewatch a couple years ago but got caught up in other things and shows I hadn't seen before. But now I need to at least continue up to the Logan episodes!!
i definitely think the age you watch it, changes how you view the boyfriends. As a first time older viewer, Logan is appealing to me but as a kid i probably would have rooted for Jess
the point where i thought logan was the best choice for rory is when he flew from london to meet rory even its for one night and when he dropped everything to help rory and the gilmores when richard got a heart attack
i always felt the writers ruined both him and dean's character to make jess look better
so trueeee ahh i hate it
i just finished gg, so im sooooo excited for this series! agreed, that logan and rory were endgame; h was the only one wanted the same future she did!
merry christmas x
Merry Christmas babe
Okay okay I LITTERALLY Just finished watching for the first time and now your making videos about it!! Ahhh love your channel
omg perfect timing!
@@SerenaSkybourne hi! I love your channel thanks for responding💛
Re: Logan and him wanting Rory to go back to Yale, I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. I know that many people dislike Jess's approach to confronting Rory on the sudden change in her life but to be frank, Logan's approach was far from perfect either. To me it felt more dismissive and disinterested on his side than him being genuinely supportive, because a) he doesn't really ask WHY she chose to suddenly drop out, she doesnt directly tell him it's because of his father and Logan never prods into that (which Rory later takes it as him silently *agreeing* with Mitchum in her downward spiral; this doesn't necessarily mean that he does, just that she doesn't fully communicate with him about the issue at hand and he never tries to do so, either), b) he doesn't really take it seriously that she is considering to DROP OUT of Yale, not simply take time off, despite the fact that this is what Rory insists on multiple times. I know that the overall Yale arc in season 6 does make it look like Rory was simply taking time off but it certainly didn't start off that way because she and Lorelai got into a big argument over Rory *dropping out* of Yale and not wanting to continue with her studies at all until she "figured out what she wanted to do that wasn't journalism", since she considered herself not good enough for that once Mitchum told her she wasn't. And once Rory moves in with her grandparents, we mostly see her being idle and depressed; she isn't really setting out to find a new life plan for herself or a new career or even some other drive for her, she's stuck in one place and Logan sees that and doesn't really concern himself much with this in spite of that being the opposite of how Rory was like, even in season 5. Now, I don't technically blame Logan for Rory's decision or her not getting back to Yale until Jess visits her, because his very lackadaisical approach just reminded me of how he approaches his own life: his father has everything mapped out for him, so he technically has no need for a motivation or interest in his career, he has everything done for him and this negatively affects him to the point where he has these very severe coping mechanisms to deal with the mental toll of that. But he takes this similar approach to Rory's issue at hand and I honestly don't think that's what *Rory* needed. I think Jess's visit was necessary in a way for her to realize that she can't just let an older, more powerful man like Mitchum tell her what she should or shouldn't be if she wants that for herself and achieves it. In a way, thats what Jess did; he went against all the stuff in his personal life that indicated he was meant to achieve nothing; even Liz and Luke who in a way "gave up" on trying to push him for something greater. And yes, the argument scene doesn't look the greatest but to me it felt more like Jess was concerned than scornful towards Rory for 'not fulfilling what she needed to do'. Like when you look at someone who used to be so driven and also very emotionally close to her mother, and is now languishing with her grandparents and having to worry about who she invites in the house, it's clear that something isn't really right. I think that it also didn't help that Rory simply didn't seem like she was fully happy with her situation either; like saying it was "all temporary", being embarrassed over her involvement with DAR meetings.
Okay and maybe hot take?? The boat thing was almost entirely on Rory!! He literally gave her like three push backs before she pressured him into agreeing to take the boat. She was being an absolute idiot and it’s her fault.
She was distressed and feeling bad and she said basically that it was the only thing that would help her feel better! He only did it because of that. Otherwise, he was showing maturity and restrain and it was all her.
Nice to see a pro Logan video! Everyone I talk to is Team jess lol
Thank youu ! I’ve always thought Logan was her best boyfriend objectively. But he’s also my fav (prob bc he reminds me a lot of my ex in his mannerisms lmao). But so glad u made a video dedicated to explaining why !
Honestly, all of Rory's BF's kind of sucked. But I think that's more a reflection on Rory than anything lol
I mean, I always appreciated their relationship. However, I can't ever say I like them together. Mainly because Rory thrives when she has nothing. Anytime she is spoilt or life hands her success too easily...she spirals. In contrast, whenever life was hard or she was without, she found her strength and inner motivation. It's for that reason I think Logan isn't the best fit for her. Even in the revival, her literal light at the end of the tunnel only came when she for the second time walked away from all the privilege in her life. This is what Lorelai realized about Rory that she waited for her to realize about herself. Rory's problems are always heightened the closer she is to the privileged world she was introduced to through her grandparents.
in the dinner with jess, rory, and logan, logan was the only one who did anything wrong.
"...for example, when they stole a boat together - that was a really stupid thing to do - ", hahhaha idk why but this made me lauuuuuugh. So fun, thanks for making this video, I'm glad you enjoyed gilmore girls!
it made me laugh too when editing for some reason haha
I was okay with Logan until the end when he broke up with Rory because she wanted to take some growing time after college-even though he had-it was spoiled and immature. Actually I think Martie would have made a better partner for her. They had the same values, work ethic and liked each other as friends. Or Jess-post novel.
I love Logan. He was hot and very charismatic.
0:27 in and i aready love it; excited to see what you say about the proposal! that was the moment i really disliked when it comes to him (besides from some other small ones but overall i'm also a Logan stan!)
when you look at all Logan's actions he is much better than Dean and Jess, it's just the presentation people dislike even though he makes clear his snobby behaviour is merely teasing and joking with a sprinkle of ignorance privledge, but he is sooo on Rory's level, is witty and fun like Lorelai and posh and rich like Richard and Emily, he was so perfect for her!!
Can u also do a character analysis on lorelie as well I'd like to know your oppinion on her character and decisions as an adult woman and mother as well
It’s on its way :)
Part 2: -that was when he stole something. Logan is a full-fledged character. I am not praising him for no reason. It's like people forget he's been around rich assholes his whole life. Have you seen his friends? That's something they would've done. He's changed a lot for Rory, in every aspect and it is mentioned. Everyone's surprised he even has a girlfriend. He would've never cared that the Daily news didn't put out a paper that day. And he would've never tried to go for his dream for a bit unless Rory has made an impact on him. But before that? There are only stories of him being a rich brat who's only trying to forget how much baggage that comes with. He can't even choose his job, his wife, or anything really so of course, he acted out. Who wouldn't? But after being like that for so long, out of pain, and powerlessness he picked up a few things. He didn't stand there quietly, asking, like: what? It's like he just realized what he's done and how his ways are incorrect by being near Rory once again and had no way to explain it because to him too, stealing didn't really make much sense cause the rich didn't even ever notice they stole stuff so why do it? Also, remember his apartment? Every item had a personality. That armor he has in his place is a metaphor if you think about it and also...it's not the best armor. Not once did Rory ever praise his paintings or anything as she did at his parents' house. It's all him. So in a way, yeah. He saw all that rich stuff and went: they wouldn't notice because rich people in his life literally only got stuff because they're rare and expensive. But stealing it was his friend's way of hurting their parents without them noticing and he did that there too. Only to realize that...Emily is rich but she cares about what she owns too. Her family, too, is new to him so he doesn't know how to react either. They're not the same as his parents or most rich people he's met. They're also: unique so he's kind of embarrassed. Also, this was his moment to impress Rorry's family. Yes? But how did he impress the people he ever wanted to impress? His friends. A...stealing stuff from the people they had to obey or else they'd get no money seems like something they'd like.
Reason 4: treating Jess badly.
I thought it was self-explanatory. Did Jess deserve it? No. But that was the point. it had nothing to do with him. Logan was in a really bad place then if I remember correctly because his parents were pressuring him into stuff and also, he was jealous but angry this time. The first time it was cute? When it was a friend of his but which we didn't really know much about if anything. Now,, he's an ass because he tried to directly offend Jess, who we know more about, and like....we got offended instead. But he was trying to make him seem lesser in Rory's eyes with every comment. The same thing he did the first time he got jealous when she showed up with his friend so she'd ditch him. But there it was less angry. Here, he can't hide his anger because he probably taught they were past this. They were dating, not only 'friends with benefits'. And when he failed to make him look bad because he wasn't his charming self, he left because his tactic failed. And anything else he would've done would've made it worse. The only way he could've calmed down and leveled with Rory to explain what he felt or whatever was if she went home with him where he would've felt safer, and Jess would've been gone. But she refused.
(Ps: Rich people are mean in this show. You've seen how his family treated Rory. And how Emily treats others. Well...he knows how to put others down. He's had training. He basically told Jess that unless he had a billion-dollar company, nothing he does is ever good enough which is what he's probably been told. That's why there was a line like: is it the greatest American novel or nah? Like he had to aim high or else, what are you celebrating? Basically, it's not worth it man. Not to mention, he himself, was upset at his parents then, I think... but he's had to deal with that his whole life, so he took out not only his jealousy on Jess but his insecurities too. The ways he's been belittled. Also...did we all forget how Jess had fought with not only Dead but anyone before...like anger-wise, Jess was in a good place then. Logan wasn't. They are both capable of controlling their anger, but in that case, for the first time, I think, might I add, Jess, controlled himself. But Logan couldn've lashed out a lot of times and didn't do it)
Also, him forgetting that they cheered made me think he was already drunk, more than anything.
-Sleeping with his sister's friends thingy. I think it was the easiest for him to do. They were close to someone he knew so he didn't have to go out of his way to find someone. Accessibility. And from the viewer's point of view, it kinda shows how little he cared about who it was because they were so close to his own sister and yet, he still did it. And he called them that because for him they were worthless. Just like a bottle of something is worthless when you're trying to get really drunk because of someone. They're just a device to forget someone important. And by calling them that, it also diminished their importance to Rory's eyes. Not to mention, none of them were able to get him. Like none of them did anything but sleep with him. So...what does that say about them? I am not saying he didn't do anything wrong though or that he's justified even though he was in a lot of pain after losing the only real thing he ever got for himself, by himself, but they all said yes too. They were all in it. Consensual. He proved he cared about consent. So... he was in a lot of pain but they weren't. So...who was using who?
Reason 6: Coming to terms with the relationship with his father.
Of course not.
This show showed years of everyone's lives. Nothing that complicated could've been solved that easily. That wouldn't have been realistic. And that would've really taken years of him hating himself for being someone who he didn't want to be for his family to get him to rip himself from his whole family, friends, current job, and lifestyle really. All he's ever known. Rory's mom was young when she left but Logan's youth was spent in their claws. Imagine Lorelay if she did abort the child and kept living with them. A mess right? Cause they had similar conditions but Richard never pressured her to take his job, he pressured Christopher who refused. But Logan couldn't refuse. He was the guy of his family. And he didn't have any life-altering event that could've allowed him to go right or left early on...like having a child. He had to cope. And he chose to cope too. Instead of escape. He's similar to Rory's mom but different because he chooses to keep playing the part his father wanted him to play even if it was to 'have fun while he still could because his father didn't care enough yet'. And also why Lorelay hates him. Because he didn't have the guts to say no to his rich life and family for good. Ever.
It's 4 30 AM. Why did I write all of this? Because I felt like you didn't realize all this or just didn't mention it. But I kind of get where he's coming from so I can see through his actions more. The pain of him being in his family's claws cause like, he is literally, clearly numbing the pain of it while he can until he's no longer allowed to do anything but work until death...well...for me, I got it. I get him. And I think people saw him as just someone who just gets drunk a lot and complains about his money. But it was never about his money. Money does make your life better. But in this case, all he got is money at the expense of everything else and that hurts. Like I'd rather not be rich than not be able to do the job that I want, spend time with who I want (cause they criticized his friends too), date and marry who I want, etc. Like his life is not his own. All we saw was this brief window of breath he had before his dad would've slammed it in his face. He literally said that his father had it all planned out for him so why would he study? Why would he do anything else? It wouldn't matter. Having a girlfriend? Why when they would choose someone else anyway? Probably someone who made sense business-wise and nothing else. Like...think about it. It would suck. Also, his father is a famous, rich, notorious, well-known journalist. Like...he can get dirt on anyone so of course, they're going to listen to him if he says: fire my son 'cause then he'll work for me. Like..there's no place for him to go, man. Or not a lot of places where he'd feel lie he's worth anything after being instilled with the: you gotta make a lot of money or else you might as well serve drinks. His worth it's attached to his job, money, status, etc. And they could all get taken away at the snap of their fingers.
Go watch the rest.
Logan never wanted Rory to be a stay at home wife. I cannot agree with that as a valid reason for people to dislike him, because it was factually untrue. His family said that's the kind of wife he needed. Logan never said or indicated he wanted that. You said why he didn't push Rory to go back to Yale. It wasn't because he would be making a lot of money so she didn't need a career. No, it's because he believed she would eventually go back. And I don't think he felt taking a break (because he saw it as simply a break) was this crisis that everyone else did.
Even in the totally contrived proposal, he showed he wasn't looking for a stay at home wife. He made a point of telling her she would be living close to two newspapers that she could work for.
I haven’t seen the revival yet, but yeah if he says that then it definitely confirms that he took her career seriously
yes thank you! The only reason I don't like the couple anymore is because I honestly think Logan deserves better. But it was obvious in all his actions that he didn't want a housewife and wanted her to work. I would even say him trying to marry her and move away together was a way to open doors for her away from his father. I don't think he would have pressured her to take his name but he wanted her to be able to make it.
I’m a Jess and Rory stan, but I can see where you’re coming from when it comes to liking Logan
I always thought it was odd that they never really brought up the fact that this was logan fist real relationship when the whole thing of him supposedly cheating on rory came up. Like he hasnt had a relationship befor he wouldnt know what takeing a break ment and if rory had just explained it to him it would have made more sence like hes never done this befor and she had a good amount of experience by that point she could have at least communicated better knowing he hadn't done commitment befor let alone the concept of a break ( which os a confusing concept in my opinion).
I will admit, being quite young when I watched the show--I loved Dean and held onto that idealization of first love for too long. I will still hold that he was a good first boyfriend for Rory, and was wronged by her behavior with Jess. But even after they sank the Dean/Rory ship, I was bitter towards anyone else Rory might like (although I did think for a bit that Marty could have been a genuinely nice guy). Instead of realizing Dean and Rory were over, I really saw Logan as another Jess 2.0. Just another bad boy making Rory act out, coming between her and Dean when in my young mind "after all the mess they caused to BE together, they should at least STAY together... they just need to work things out without Rory getting distracted by bad boys"
...Growing up, means I NOW realize now that there was no going back to what Rory and Dean once had. The innocence was gone. They'd grown apart. The compatibility was gone.
And I will still hold that I don't really get what Rory sees in Playboy Logan initially, other than looks (I also NEVER EVER understood what she saw in Jess). And I will admit that the Life Or Death Brigade is not really my idea of romance. BUT!!! I am not Rory!!! I've come to fully appreciate the way that Rory and Logan fit together and work well together and grow together. Once they are in a committed relationship, they are so adorable together. They have such good chemistry, and they can talk about anything from pop culture to work to family to books to disagreements. He respected her mother and stood up to his family for Rory. As I've grown up, I've become fully on Team Logan, and I believe not marrying Logan was the biggest mistake of her life.
I have different Opinions on Logan as a Character, Logan and Rory's Relationship and Logan in the Revival. I like Logan as a Character, like a lot of Logan and Rory except for their Communication Issues ec. but that's both of them but I despise Logan in the Revival. Also... Daddy Issues much? When I first saw him I was reminded so much of Chris.
Yes he's very much like Christopher 💯
The thing about the revival is his growth in season 7 was purposely ignored. So, I don't even factor the revival in. Some might say you can't erase the revival, since it happened, but the revival ignored season 7.
When people say they’re a Logan girl : 😊
When people say they’re a Jess girl: 😊
When people say they’re a Dean girl: 👹
LOGANS ENTIRE PERSONALITY IS "I HATE MY DAD BUT I STILL WANT HIS MONEY. POOR ME. OH IM A POOR LITTLE RICH BOY" HES NOTHING OF THE MISUNDERSTOOD HERO U SO CLAIM THAT HE IS. INFACT HES THE MOST ONE DIMENSIONAL CHARACTER ON THE SHOW.
Yes, like, why do ppl call *Rory* spoiled when Logan is such a spoiled guy who doesn't seem to have many talents besides doing pranks (even during important lectures), spending his father's money and complaining about not having many options bc his father would "force" his professional path which is weird bc he could do sth different if he just chose to live a less privileged life without daddy's money.
I read somewhere that Logan's storyline was Tristan's but that CMM couldn't go back to GG because of OTH so they created Logan
Logan treated everyone who wasn't Rich like crap, he wasn't really caring. Also I don't think him proposing to Rory was genuine at all either but rather just a way to force her to go to California with him. And between the boat stealing, how he responded to her quitting school, sleeping with 5+ girls within a month of them breaking up and how he dropped her like a hot egg when she asked him for a minute to think about the proposal because she needed to think about her career he didn't really want what was best for her he just wanted a woman beside him.
Omg I’ve never seen a better description of Logan! He’s one of my lowest rated Rory boyfriends tbh
Logan did not treat people who weren't rich like crap in my opinion. I found him very respectful except he could have been a little nicer to Marty in the beginning but he didn't say anything that wasn't true and he wasn't trying to be mean. Also Rory turning down Logan's proposal was the worse thing that she could have done. She never recovered from that poor decision. Logan could have helped her significantly with their career or not if she wanted to do it on her own. He was not the kind of person that would force her into anything.. He would have offered help if she needed it but he would have encouraged her in her job, whatever it was.
@@Tessiefaye "worse thing that she could have done"??How is someone who just graduated saying they can’t just pack up their entire life to move to California with you after you gave them 24hrs to think about it the worst decision?
@@Makasituation because she could have suggested moving in with him but not getting married yet. Forming new experiences outside of new england would be good for her
@@TheMarkmcr Not wanting to pack up your life and move to the California, and put your career on the back burner is not "the worst decision" , especially when the person you'd be moving for gives you a *single day* to think about it. I don't understand how people can rationalize this, and she was quite literally trying to be a foreign correspondent not work for the LA Times, she would have still traveled around the world.
Ok I've NEVER realized that Logan and Lorelei are a lot alike. I've always compared him to Christopher, but yeah, Logan is like Lorelai if Lorelai hadn't had a make-or-break moment that FORCED her time flee when she did
I'm a year late to comment here, but this only popped up yesterday in my feed. I LOVE your viewpoint on Logan and agree with it all. Tku! Best defense of the L&R ship I've heard to battle so much hate out there for him!! I wanted them endgame too. I love your in depth and nuanced analysis of him, good & flawed, all while still loving him best with Rory. (Everyone in GG is flawed!) Anyway, I agree. I love him. I get your assessment of Jess too...fair. I also liked Dean as the first bf, and understood why he behaved as he did eventually...he sensed her slipping away and not being honest. I always say I have never "hated" any of the GG characters...though I wasn't a Jess fan in S2, but I still agree about the chemistry, and the purpose he served at that time, the bad boy, exciting, unpredictable guy attraction. I also understand his bad background, youth he outgrew eventually. So glad he became a better man. Still, I liked them better as friends...still saw her with Logan. Hated that they broke them up, (unrealistic, as she was so in love with him & seemingly just "moved on.") Then what they did in AYITL. In my mind...it's his baby, which I believe it really is, and they DO wind up back together. I guess you're done with GG deep dives, but I'd have loved to have heard your assessment of Lorelai's relationships, especially her and Luke.
I have always been team Jess because she would have a laid back lifestyle, and she could opt in and out of the limelight she wanted. But you really made me see Logan in another light. I always thought he would be second choice, but I just thought that Rory does not want to be a socialite fulltime. That would be her position as his wife. But if the show went on they could show her growing into being able to do that role. As long as she would be willing to become her grandmother then he would be perfect. But if she ultimately wants to live a similar life to her mother then Jess would be great. Thanks for this video, it really opened my eyes.
I'm so glad that the video gave you a different perspective! I really think her and Logan could have worked, if they adapted more to each other's lifestyles
@@SerenaSkybourne Yes. I think the answer for me has always been based on which lifestyle she would really want. That's where her choice in a perfect match would lye.
As the series goes on I start to not want Rory with anybody lol. I actually cannot stand the revival episodes and the way Rory's relationships are portrayed in them. I guess unpopular opinion but I always had a soft spot for Dean but only early Dean not later Dean lol. I could not care less about Jess and am ambivalent about Logan hahaha
I really liked dean in the pilot but felt like he immediately started a downward trajectory. It's subtle at first but by season 2...oh boy, season 2, they did a character assassination on Dean. It's like he's not even the same character. I'm pretty sure the writers view Jess as Rory's Luke so anytime he's around any and all other boyfriends just start acting crazy for no apparent reason and their characters do a 180. Don't get me wrong, I like Jess, especially in the later seasons, but they definitely make the other guys look bad to prop up Jess whenever he's around. I also really hated Dean the second time around when they got back together after he cheated on Lindsey. I could just never get on board after that and felt like everything I had liked about the character was gone.
@@RachaelTheRed I think my opinion of Dean is coloured by the age I was when I first watched the show. Dean was basically the perfect first boyfriend in the same way that I felt Harvey from Sabrina the Teenage Witch was a perfect first boyfriend lol. On rewatch and as an adult now rather than a teenager Dean definitely is not perfect yet I still find myself enjoying when he and Rory are together in the beginning. Definitely character assassination happened however because Dean has lots of flaws and they are not easy to get over
Rory and Jess are made for one another. Inverse mirrors.
Yes totally agree but rory is such a mess while jess has finally gotten his life together
Yeah, I think they were in each others lives for a reason
@@angelaholmes8888 so what cant be perfrct all the time.
@@lauriecarson6483 yes nothing's perfect but rory's totally not ready to be in a stable relationship with jess
Logan was an amazing obnoxious and conceded jerk.
The scene of them dancing that you fawned over was him expecting her to fall for him.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I can't believe how they ended in the original run... like I refuse to believe that's canon.
Honestly I never liked any of rory's boyfriends but Logan was a better fit for her
yeah they were all pretty rubbish haha. but Logan was the most likely to work
TEAM LOGAN FOREVER
It’s really dumb for the writer to leave Rory telling Logan no to his proposal because she liked the fact things were open for her. Then I’m the reboot having her so unsure of her self and her life. What a rip off ya know.
Logan is the definition of “if he wanted to he would” it’s almost unrealistic but in a way it’s really not
YOU LOOK AMAZING!
Thanks cutie 😝😜
I thought you said “hide a coffee cart guy” instead of hiring a coffee cart guy and it made me think of Logan just hiding coffee guys around for Rory to find 😂
Awww, Lancelot is SOOOOOOO cute!!!!!
He’s the sweetest boy 😍
I’ve already watched Gilmore girls in fall last year now I wanna rewatch it 😂
My issue with Logan haters is that he cheated (he didn't) and that he's rich. They all forget that Rory cheated multiple times on boyfriends and in the revival is the other woman, and is from money herself. So weird.
Also, we need to understand if Gilmore Girls is really like what the revival says - written from Rorys POV - then the introduction of Logan makes sense. She had never met anyone like him before so everything about him is avant garde and out of the world. He might have had an opinion on blue collar workers but Rory - so shell shocked took what he said perhaps made it more jarring than it was. Which also shows his slight/softening of his character over time because Rory slowly got used to his Chuck Bass-sism and grew to be "One of them". 35:05
I really really really loved Logan's character!
Serena, I truly like that you talk so in deep about Gilmore Girls. I am definitely thinking Jess understood Rory the way no one else did, even if he wasn't ready for a long-term relationship. My thoughts are the following: Rory was not formed as a woman when dating Dean and Jess, although it was clear that with Jess she felt a different kind of attraction, something more spicey. And later on, unfortunately, I do see her as kind of lost. She has some things she believes in, but she is also quite lost and not grounded, so it felt like she was with Logan because the script was like this, not because she was truly having crazy attraction towards Logan. Maybe if Logan was played by another actor, the attraction would have been more believable. Rory is in constant search and feels insecure to me.
I always thought Logan was an ass. But he definitely had his really sweet moments. I agree he was the best fit for rory.
another reason that I didn't initially like Logan which wasn't mentioned: envy.
he's handsome and charismatic enough to overcome that awful first impression. most guys would not be able to dig themselves out of that hole.
i understand he only has a little influence over his looks (but that's aided by money) and that his charisma was developed as a way to help get out of trouble and avoid accountability... but he can stop being irresponsible and still have the charisma he honed in his rebellion youth.
i wouldn't make many of the mistakes he made, but I'm envious of the people skills he was able to gain while he was protected from failure. therefore I initially hated him.
Rory is not the prize they portray her as, she'd be a hard woman to live with. so it's almost like he gets karmic punishment by being entangled with her. so knowing how it plays out, i kinda like the character.
he has many admirable qualities and a lot of lousy ones, which are treated as flaws. so he's a decent character for a television show (still wouldn't want him in my life though).
Favourite Logan moment?
Prob when they stole the yacht even tho it’s horrible but I love how he didn’t want her to do it but decided it’s better that if she’s going to then he’d do it too, also when him and fynn make that scene in one of her classes. Tbh I love most Logan moments, NOT ALL but most
When they broke up.
rory's first ily to him! glad you mentioned it here
People don't seem to like how he went back to working for his dad in ayitl, but I think (in light of the recession) it shows how he's finally learned to put responsibility above his sense of pride
@@TheMarkmcr thats so interesting!
I always thought the “we were on a break” argument flimsy for Logan. Yea he Thought they broke up but he never asked or said it? Like do people just break up without telling the other person and them not being shitty?
yeah i feel that was a script/writing error. hard to believe
Logan is by far my favorite of Rory boyfriend, and is only threatened by Luke for favorite character. I go back and forth with whos 1st and 2nd
But Rory and Logan are my favorite couple by far
I find Logan the most interesting of Rory's bfs, but I think he is disqualified because I dont think he can REALLY walk away from his family's money or narcissistic hoovering and will forever be manipulated to make choices against his heart, including Rory, however much he hates it.
Ive always loved logan he had a beautiful evolution of course he is not perfect he made bad mistakes but he come out a cleaver good man
My take is: Logan and Rory should be together, because Jess deserves better than Rory.
Blah blah blah
Actually, even if I liked them as a couple, i felt the ending of it made sense. I was a little sad that she wasn't willing to marry him, but still, it made sense that he didn't want to go backwards and I never felt they would have had a great marriage in the long run. I also felt like she never truly forgave him for "cheating", to me she never completely built the trust back, and because of that she was talking to Paris about choosing the career first even before the proposal.
My take on the 3 boys in Rory’s life:
Dean is a great crush
Jess is a great boyfriend
Logan is a great husband
I love Logan. He was my favorite love interest for her.
Thank you! I could not agree more! Logan was the best.
I agree with you completely. Logan and Rory were perfect for each other. Dean was too insecure and Jesse too temperamental, but Logan was someone who understood her and let his love for her guide him towards becoming an adult in an organic way (as opposed to "I'm gonna pretend I'm what she wants so that I can get what I want out of her" kind of way). The ultimatum part wasn't great -- although I completely understand his mindset, it is difficult to come up with a logical reason to delay starting a life with someone you _want_ to start a life with, and Rory's reasoning here makes no sense to me -- but it was even less great that Rory was revealed to be the person who only wants what she can't have, which didn't feel true to her character either.
I loved him .
You never made one about him in the future 😢
The last season of the show wasn’t written by the shows creator and show runner. The network fired her for whatever reason and she hates the last season. I would have loved to have seen what she did with it. Although after the new stuff on Netflix I don’t know that I like how her characters never really change and eventually become the villain because they keep repeating the same pattern over and over.
We need to talk about Lane Rorys so called BFF
I always say this: My personal favorite is Jess, but Rory and Logan were perfect for each other and Dean who?
Love this 🥰
As far as AYITL goes, we must take that as cannon because ASP wrote it. However I think it seems odd and off because of ASP would have written a Season 7 and maybe a Season 8 these plot lines of AYITL would have happened to Rory at age 21/22 rather then age 32 and would have been accepted more smoothly. ASP wants Logan to be Christopher and Jess to be Luke. ASP wants Jess to ultimately be with Rory like Luke is with Lorelei. She wants Logan to maybe reluctantly propose to Rory like Christopher did to Lorelei when he found out she was pregnant. ASP wants the plot to come full circle and as much as I love Logan and can’t stand Jess, our boy Logan will not wind up with pregnant Rory, loser Jess will.
Rory crying on the bathroom floor doesn’t show that she really cares about Logan it shows that her childhood trauma is triggered. She’s desperate to get the attention and affection from this unavailable charming guy. Rory is just another person who feels she has to earn love. It makes much more sense why she had trouble telling Dean she loved him. It probably felt to easy for her and like she didn’t deserve it. Bad boy Jess probably attracted her because she felt she could fix him and make him the perfect boyfriend. And now here’s emotionally unavailable Logan. And once he charms his way into her heart and she’s hooked, every time he pulls away she will get triggered to try to win his love and feel worthless when he doesn’t give it. It’s fantasy land to think that these types of relationships with these types of guys can work. It doesn’t. They break your heart and you end up writing a 10 minute song called All Too Well.
Can you do Tristan and Rory I would love to hear your opinion
Yessss
Yasss! Logan Supremacy
I never understand why Rory thought he flirted with her... He seemed the way with everyone (female) 🤷♀️
I adore Logan. Was he perfect? Of course not. No one is. But he got her, he challenged her, and he loved her.
Rory was a fool not to marry him. She would have had a great life instead of floundering around and sleeping with Wookiee’s!