That’s awesome! 👍 Have you seen the new FX30? I haven’t tried one yet but from my first look it seems to have all the same functionality as the FX3 but with an APS-C sensor. 📸
what would you recommend for everyday shooting daily life. " a day in the life of" podcasting etc... adventures. I was looking at the Sony 16-35mm gmll lens but considering the 24 to 70mm talked about in your video.
I've used this lens for vlogging, short films, weddings, and just about everything else. For me 16mm isn't necessary for most situations. The only time I've ever used it is when I'm shooting behind the scenes stuff and want everything possible in view in smaller spaces. I carry that 24-70mm all over the world with me.
I purchased and a7s iii and will be doing a lot of car videos. I have a unique opportunity to film supercars and not sure what lens to use. I will be using the rs3 gimbal, what do you suggest?
I'm looking at a good all around lense for music videos, action, adventure and vlog...this lense seems good, but thot I'd ask/run it by you...and if I had to have 2 lenses to be basic all around for the best I can get...recommend a second?? I'm a minimalist and not necessarily a photographer using A7iii
Honestly, I don’t really think you’d need another lens for what you’re describing. That’s basically all the scenarios I’ve used this lens for and it’s been great. But if you really want another then I’d say probably the Sony 14mm GM ( amzn.to/46ufF0g ) because you’ll have the ability to get really wide shots for action/adventure type stuff. You can always use the APS-C mode or clear image zoom with the zoom lens at 70mm to get further reach if you need.
what lens did you record the video on? need a good one for like sit down video or like a video in a car getting a good clear shot of people in the front and back
I record just about all my TH-cam videos with the Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 GM lens ( amzn.to/3ilCuzX ) and I typically have it set between 24-35mm for my talking head shots.
So other than slight increase in auto focus speed, what are the main differences between the og Sony 24-70 f/2.8 GM and the Mark II? Is it worth the extra few hundreds to get the most recent one?
Only in that it’s a bitter lighter if that matters to you. I’ve been using the original for about 4 years now and it’s still looking great to me. 👍 The price is way nicer too!
In my opinion yes but I use it for travel , the change in size is a game changer !!!!! The quality is noticeably better but if u can get great footage out of #1 and weight isn't an isssue possibly not worth the $$,
If im mainly doing travel videos (mostly daytime and golden hour shooting) ... should i stick with the 24-105 f4 lens because it is lighter and has OSS vs the 24-70gm2?
I would still rather get the f/2.8 because the aperture is for stylistic effects. Not for blocking light. You can always use an ND filter to get the exposure the way you need. And nearly every Sony camera has image stabilization now so you don’t really need it in the lens.
Good video, nice to see one based on filmmaking rather than photography. What would be the best GM prime lense for short films and documentaries? 24mm or 35mm as an allrounder? I'm not usually fan of zooms as the picture not as good as primes imo.Or should I just bite the bullet get the 24-70mm GM1 or Art? (my budget can't get thr GMII) Thanks in advance..subbed.
I think the GM1 is a great choice (I use it just about everyday). But if you’re going to build your prime collection, I’d personally go with the 35mm because I like that focal length better overall. Not too wide for closeups but still wide enough for most scenes.
hello, I film my deer hunts and rely on a remote for zooming as I only have one hand available moments before the shot. Is there a lens you would recommend for my sony a7iii in my situation?
@@CamberFilmSchool I am currently shooting with Sony ax700 camcorder. I am looking for better quality video than that. My budget is pretty open up to 2-3k
@@CamberFilmSchool sorry that was probably confusing. I just purchased an a7iii, I have never filmed a hunt with it and im looking for the best option for lenses. I am coming from a sony ax700 and looking for better video than that and especially better AF. It struggles with picking up an animal through tree limbs.
For your setup, do you have the camera with you or setup somewhere else and you’re remote zooming? Trying to get a full image in my head of your setup.
I was doing some more research on the Rokinon lens and found A LOT of reviews saying that the base of the lens fell apart after a few months of use because it’s made out of cheap plastic. One person said the lens mount fell off when taking it out of the box! 😬
@@CamberFilmSchool thanks for answer what lens u recommend for church video or band video clip outside and inside and what program u used to download in youtube?
Definitely didn't put it in the toilet! 😂 Here's a video where I went through how I got all the various unique shots in the film: th-cam.com/video/9ZU-Hs2sg70/w-d-xo.html
I guess if those are important to you. Most people probably don’t need power zoom. Plus your pretty much going to be maxed out at f/4 with PZ lenses which will hurt your depth of field options
@@CamberFilmSchool It is not what is important to me. Zooming is a key part of professional video, of all types - documentaries, sports and even cinema. You are correct that most power zoom lens max out at f4. But, beyond the focal length of 70mm, like for the lenses you are suggesting, you can get even more shallow DOF effects. Here is Sony's real zoom cinema FF lens: the Sony FE PZ 28-135mm f/4 G. At 135mm and f4 full frame, the DOF is plenty shallow. That lens is par focal, and has a multi-speed power zoom rocker. Another Sony full-frame power zoom lens is the Sony FE C 16-35mm T3.1 G (C=cinema). Sony does not offer many actual full-frame cinema lenses, but you can see both are power zooms. Sony's APS-C offerings of power zoom lenses are more extensive, because its older professional video (cinema) cameras (the fs line) were APS-C. The power zoom feature and most importantly par focal behavior are offered because those features are valuable to professionals. Canon also has just recently offered a power zoom cinema lens. And Nikon has just offered its first power zoom. These manufacturers are increasing emphasizing video uses and so they are following up with lenses that professional video creators want. If the 24-70 mm lenses you are recommending are not par focal, they are suitable for professional video, though of course they can be used well for shooting video, it is is just they are limiting in what they can do for video. Shallow DOF is not a key element for many professionals, though the ability to vary DOF creatively is not unimportant. Of course, there are many, many cinema zoom lenses that are not power zooms (or have AF), but they are par focal and at the upper end they use attachments or crew to do the zooming.
@markr041 I know you can get a shallower depth of field look with higher focal lengths, but I don’t want to use focal length to control depth of field. You get a completely different look of a shot framed in 85mm vs 35mm. That’s like saying I’ll just use the ISO to get the exposure that I need rather than actually lighting your scenes well. Obviously cinema lenses are better for video, but you have to keep in mind the broader audiences of these types of videos. Most people are probably buying a $2,000 full frame camera and are very unlikely to be willing to shell out another $5,500+ for something like the 16-35mm Cinema lens that you’re suggesting. I agree that zooming CAN be an important part of video, but it’s not an effect you see very often. You can also buy an $80 follow focus attachment and get smooth zooms manually with that for the occasions where you may feel like a zoom during a shot is needed (I actually have a video demonstrating this with the same zoom lens from the video). For the average user who is going to TH-cam to learn about lenses and what will get them good video, they’re unlikely to go with cinema lenses, especially since most don’t have autofocus. I’d argue it’s way more of a pain to deal with having to manually focus a superior quality cinema lens than having to sometimes manually zoom a photography lens with excellent autofocus.
I disagree because the stabilization in cameras is way better now than it was in the past. I don’t have any lenses with stabilization, and I shoot a ton handheld with no problem.
This is not a particularly good video. You need to consider who your target audience is. In this video, you're talking about beginner level concepts when explaining kit lenses, depth of field, aperture, etc. However, you're then recommending top of the line gear from Sony which generally doesn't appeal to newcomers or beginners just getting into photography. So it's clear this video isn't intended for enthusiasts that have been shooting for a long time, and it's not intended for most beginners because of your lens and Full frame recommendations, so you're targeting a very small subset of beginners with ample money to spend on something they clearly know nothing about and haven't done any previous research on. Just something to keep in mind. If you're going to make a video for beginners, then understand the major things beginners are looking for. If you're going to make a video for more learned enthusiasts, then you'll need to focus on nuances to persuade them to your lens recommendations.
Thanks for you thoughts, but I have considered my audience. I have MANY other lens recommendation videos that are for APS-C specific cameras as well as cheaper full frame lenses for full frame cameras that are under $1,000. What you also have to consider is that just because someone is a newcomer or beginner does not mean that person does NOT have money to spend on good gear. I have made hundreds of videos and in many of the comments where I recommend lower cost gear, I have people asking me what better gear they could get for much higher budgets. You may also be surprised at how many people who have been shooting for a long time don't understand things like how crop factor affects depth of field and focal length or that crop factor is even a thing (I was literally explaining that to a photographer who has been doing photoshoots for people for a decade). When I formulate how I'm going to record my videos, I make much of it based on the feedback I get from people in previous videos...
fair enough. If this video is geared towards beginners with a lot of money to spend looking for the best quality, I probably wouldn't even mention the Sigma then since it's not a competitor to thr G Master series. I feel like that would have been better saved for a separate video where multiple Sigma lenses were compared to Sony brand to explain the general differences between third and first party lenses. You touch on many things in this video but I feel that causes it to lose focus. At the end of the day, I guess you like the sony 24-70mm because of its zoom and better low light capabilites compared to f4 lenses. However, I don't remember you demonstrating a zoom effect in your videography to show is unique advantage Obey prime lenses and prime lenses have better low light performance. So maybe I was just hoping for more of an explanation why you favor the zoom over prime, which it seems is what most of the community uses for videography. Anyway, cheers and I thought the shot of your daughter running down the hallway was really good and fun.
@tykejack I’d say doing a dolly zoom like I showed in multiple tests is a good use of showing the unique advantage of a zoom lens for videography. Plus I like the zoom lens because it’s much easier to deal with while traveling, which I do a lot, as far as less gear and weight to carry. Plus it’s less expensive to buy the one good GM zoom than the 3 GM primes that cover the same general focal lengths. Thx on the running shot comment. We had a lot of fun shooting that film.
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What kind of camera are you using? 📸
Just an iPhone for me right now. 📱
That works. Use what you got! 😉
I'm still using canon 90d and canon sl2, all my gear recommended by you including lenses, tripod and even memory cards 💯. Saving up for Sony fx3 🙏🏽
That’s awesome! 👍 Have you seen the new FX30? I haven’t tried one yet but from my first look it seems to have all the same functionality as the FX3 but with an APS-C sensor. 📸
@@CamberFilmSchool this time I Really want to buy canon or sony full frame camera with built-in stability and cinema line footage
That makes sense. Full frame really does make a HUGE difference! 🎥
what would you recommend for everyday shooting daily life. " a day in the life of" podcasting etc... adventures. I was looking at the Sony 16-35mm gmll lens but considering the 24 to 70mm talked about in your video.
I've used this lens for vlogging, short films, weddings, and just about everything else. For me 16mm isn't necessary for most situations. The only time I've ever used it is when I'm shooting behind the scenes stuff and want everything possible in view in smaller spaces. I carry that 24-70mm all over the world with me.
@@CamberFilmSchool thanks man 🫡
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I purchased and a7s iii and will be doing a lot of car videos. I have a unique opportunity to film supercars and not sure what lens to use. I will be using the rs3 gimbal, what do you suggest?
Depends on how far away you are? If this during races or up close shots or cars? And what is your budget? And what’s the max payload of the gimbal?
I'm looking at a good all around lense for music videos, action, adventure and vlog...this lense seems good, but thot I'd ask/run it by you...and if I had to have 2 lenses to be basic all around for the best I can get...recommend a second?? I'm a minimalist and not necessarily a photographer
using A7iii
Honestly, I don’t really think you’d need another lens for what you’re describing. That’s basically all the scenarios I’ve used this lens for and it’s been great. But if you really want another then I’d say probably the Sony 14mm GM ( amzn.to/46ufF0g ) because you’ll have the ability to get really wide shots for action/adventure type stuff. You can always use the APS-C mode or clear image zoom with the zoom lens at 70mm to get further reach if you need.
what lens did you record the video on? need a good one for like sit down video or like a video in a car getting a good clear shot of people in the front and back
I record just about all my TH-cam videos with the Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 GM lens ( amzn.to/3ilCuzX ) and I typically have it set between 24-35mm for my talking head shots.
I film live performances from back of a dark room or theater. im looking for a lense what can record a brighter video from further away
You’ll want to use something like a 70-200mm for that situation: amzn.to/3RZWF5S what kind of camera are you using?
Short, sweet, and to the point. I love this recommendation. Question, do you think this one can work well for music videos too?
Most definitely. I started out making music videos with this type of lens.
@@CamberFilmSchool Rad thanks for responding!
@sleevetrocks 👍
So other than slight increase in auto focus speed, what are the main differences between the og Sony 24-70 f/2.8 GM and the Mark II? Is it worth the extra few hundreds to get the most recent one?
Only in that it’s a bitter lighter if that matters to you. I’ve been using the original for about 4 years now and it’s still looking great to me. 👍 The price is way nicer too!
In my opinion yes but I use it for travel , the change in size is a game changer !!!!! The quality is noticeably better but if u can get great footage out of #1 and weight isn't an isssue possibly not worth the $$,
Good point!
If im mainly doing travel videos (mostly daytime and golden hour shooting) ... should i stick with the 24-105 f4 lens because it is lighter and has OSS vs the 24-70gm2?
I would still rather get the f/2.8 because the aperture is for stylistic effects. Not for blocking light. You can always use an ND filter to get the exposure the way you need. And nearly every Sony camera has image stabilization now so you don’t really need it in the lens.
What lens would you recommend for reels/vertical video cinematics for mma or boxing promotions on the a7siii
I’d still use the same lens I recommended in the video and just turn the camera sideways.
Good video, nice to see one based on filmmaking rather than photography. What would be the best GM prime lense for short films and documentaries? 24mm or 35mm as an allrounder? I'm not usually fan of zooms as the picture not as good as primes imo.Or should I just bite the bullet get the 24-70mm GM1 or Art? (my budget can't get thr GMII) Thanks in advance..subbed.
I think the GM1 is a great choice (I use it just about everyday). But if you’re going to build your prime collection, I’d personally go with the 35mm because I like that focal length better overall. Not too wide for closeups but still wide enough for most scenes.
Whats the lens you use for youtube ?
Typically the Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 GM.
Been using the sigma one .. thanks to u. the lens is always on my a7s3. the setup is heavy but handy during vlogging. good video
Thx, bro! 😉 That’s a good setup. 📸
@@CamberFilmSchool love it 😉
hello, I film my deer hunts and rely on a remote for zooming as I only have one hand available moments before the shot. Is there a lens you would recommend for my sony a7iii in my situation?
Sure, what’s your budget?
@@CamberFilmSchool I am currently shooting with Sony ax700 camcorder. I am looking for better quality video than that. My budget is pretty open up to 2-3k
So do you already have an a7iii or are you planning on getting one?
@@CamberFilmSchool sorry that was probably confusing. I just purchased an a7iii, I have never filmed a hunt with it and im looking for the best option for lenses. I am coming from a sony ax700 and looking for better video than that and especially better AF. It struggles with picking up an animal through tree limbs.
For your setup, do you have the camera with you or setup somewhere else and you’re remote zooming? Trying to get a full image in my head of your setup.
I own the Sigma and have loved it, but I've also seen great things about the Rokinon 24-70 as well! It's also the cheapest at $850 USD
That sigma is definitely great in most applications. 📸 I haven’t used the Rokinon, but do they have autofocus?
@@CamberFilmSchool it is indeed an AF lens. It’s actually newer than the sigma
Nice. I’ll have to try that out!
I was doing some more research on the Rokinon lens and found A LOT of reviews saying that the base of the lens fell apart after a few months of use because it’s made out of cheap plastic. One person said the lens mount fell off when taking it out of the box! 😬
Great video man! Thanks for the great review ✌️
No problem! 👍
Subscribed simply because of 6:53. 👏
Glad someone appreciated it! 😉
Thanks for the video mate!
You’re welcome! 😉
Good info!
Thx! 😉
Can I buy sigma lence for sony a7s3
Yea, as long as you get one with a Sony E mount.
very clear！
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bro i haven't got arms like you to vlog with this lens
😂 that’s what made those arms! 💪
i will ask this all the time but no one will answer my question 😔 how u make u vid so nice and clear and post it on youtube?
Good lighting and lenses.
@@CamberFilmSchool thanks for answer what lens u recommend for church video or band video clip outside and inside and what program u used to download in youtube?
That depends on the type of camera you’re using and your budget. I just upload videos from my computer to TH-cam on google chrome.
@@CamberFilmSchooli got the sony a7iv
How far away are you going to be when making these church & band videos?
Did you really put your camera in the toilet? Or did youvideo? New toilet seat just for that bedtime vjdeo?
Definitely didn't put it in the toilet! 😂 Here's a video where I went through how I got all the various unique shots in the film: th-cam.com/video/9ZU-Hs2sg70/w-d-xo.html
No power zoom, no parfocal. Not ideal for video.
I guess if those are important to you. Most people probably don’t need power zoom. Plus your pretty much going to be maxed out at f/4 with PZ lenses which will hurt your depth of field options
@@CamberFilmSchool It is not what is important to me. Zooming is a key part of professional video, of all types - documentaries, sports and even cinema. You are correct that most power zoom lens max out at f4. But, beyond the focal length of 70mm, like for the lenses you are suggesting, you can get even more shallow DOF effects. Here is Sony's real zoom cinema FF lens: the Sony FE PZ 28-135mm f/4 G. At 135mm and f4 full frame, the DOF is plenty shallow. That lens is par focal, and has a multi-speed power zoom rocker.
Another Sony full-frame power zoom lens is the Sony FE C 16-35mm T3.1 G (C=cinema). Sony does not offer many actual full-frame cinema lenses, but you can see both are power zooms. Sony's APS-C offerings of power zoom lenses are more extensive, because its older professional video (cinema) cameras (the fs line) were APS-C. The power zoom feature and most importantly par focal behavior are offered because those features are valuable to professionals.
Canon also has just recently offered a power zoom cinema lens. And Nikon has just offered its first power zoom. These manufacturers are increasing emphasizing video uses and so they are following up with lenses that professional video creators want. If the 24-70 mm lenses you are recommending are not par focal, they are suitable for professional video, though of course they can be used well for shooting video, it is is just they are limiting in what they can do for video. Shallow DOF is not a key element for many professionals, though the ability to vary DOF creatively is not unimportant.
Of course, there are many, many cinema zoom lenses that are not power zooms (or have AF), but they are par focal and at the upper end they use attachments or crew to do the zooming.
@markr041 I know you can get a shallower depth of field look with higher focal lengths, but I don’t want to use focal length to control depth of field. You get a completely different look of a shot framed in 85mm vs 35mm. That’s like saying I’ll just use the ISO to get the exposure that I need rather than actually lighting your scenes well.
Obviously cinema lenses are better for video, but you have to keep in mind the broader audiences of these types of videos. Most people are probably buying a $2,000 full frame camera and are very unlikely to be willing to shell out another $5,500+ for something like the 16-35mm Cinema lens that you’re suggesting. I agree that zooming CAN be an important part of video, but it’s not an effect you see very often. You can also buy an $80 follow focus attachment and get smooth zooms manually with that for the occasions where you may feel like a zoom during a shot is needed (I actually have a video demonstrating this with the same zoom lens from the video).
For the average user who is going to TH-cam to learn about lenses and what will get them good video, they’re unlikely to go with cinema lenses, especially since most don’t have autofocus. I’d argue it’s way more of a pain to deal with having to manually focus a superior quality cinema lens than having to sometimes manually zoom a photography lens with excellent autofocus.
@@CamberFilmSchool Ok, good discussion.
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You didn't mention the REAL benefit of the 24-105, and that is the internal stabilization. Worth the loss of one stop, IMHO.
I disagree because the stabilization in cameras is way better now than it was in the past. I don’t have any lenses with stabilization, and I shoot a ton handheld with no problem.
This is not a particularly good video. You need to consider who your target audience is. In this video, you're talking about beginner level concepts when explaining kit lenses, depth of field, aperture, etc. However, you're then recommending top of the line gear from Sony which generally doesn't appeal to newcomers or beginners just getting into photography. So it's clear this video isn't intended for enthusiasts that have been shooting for a long time, and it's not intended for most beginners because of your lens and Full frame recommendations, so you're targeting a very small subset of beginners with ample money to spend on something they clearly know nothing about and haven't done any previous research on.
Just something to keep in mind. If you're going to make a video for beginners, then understand the major things beginners are looking for. If you're going to make a video for more learned enthusiasts, then you'll need to focus on nuances to persuade them to your lens recommendations.
Thanks for you thoughts, but I have considered my audience. I have MANY other lens recommendation videos that are for APS-C specific cameras as well as cheaper full frame lenses for full frame cameras that are under $1,000. What you also have to consider is that just because someone is a newcomer or beginner does not mean that person does NOT have money to spend on good gear. I have made hundreds of videos and in many of the comments where I recommend lower cost gear, I have people asking me what better gear they could get for much higher budgets.
You may also be surprised at how many people who have been shooting for a long time don't understand things like how crop factor affects depth of field and focal length or that crop factor is even a thing (I was literally explaining that to a photographer who has been doing photoshoots for people for a decade). When I formulate how I'm going to record my videos, I make much of it based on the feedback I get from people in previous videos...
fair enough.
If this video is geared towards beginners with a lot of money to spend looking for the best quality, I probably wouldn't even mention the Sigma then since it's not a competitor to thr G Master series. I feel like that would have been better saved for a separate video where multiple Sigma lenses were compared to Sony brand to explain the general differences between third and first party lenses.
You touch on many things in this video but I feel that causes it to lose focus. At the end of the day, I guess you like the sony 24-70mm because of its zoom and better low light capabilites compared to f4 lenses. However, I don't remember you demonstrating a zoom effect in your videography to show is unique advantage Obey prime lenses and prime lenses have better low light performance. So maybe I was just hoping for more of an explanation why you favor the zoom over prime, which it seems is what most of the community uses for videography.
Anyway, cheers and I thought the shot of your daughter running down the hallway was really good and fun.
@tykejack I’d say doing a dolly zoom like I showed in multiple tests is a good use of showing the unique advantage of a zoom lens for videography. Plus I like the zoom lens because it’s much easier to deal with while traveling, which I do a lot, as far as less gear and weight to carry. Plus it’s less expensive to buy the one good GM zoom than the 3 GM primes that cover the same general focal lengths.
Thx on the running shot comment. We had a lot of fun shooting that film.