Dream Paragon VS Will of the Emperor 10 Heroic www.paragon.fi #paragon - irc.quakenet.org PoV: Lappé Music: Thomas Bergersen - Remember Me Future World Music - Dream Chasers
This is the first boss fight I've seen for MoP and I must say that it looks amazing. I miss the old fights, like Illidari Council, Kael'thas and Lady Vashj that always had so much going on. I'm not going to start playing again, but it was good to see this.
Paragon is without a doubt the best guild that ever existed in World of Warcraft. People may argue that Ensidia may have been better at some point (I am not taking into consideration as of who has most 1st, but simply which guild is better), but I must say, Paragon has my vote. Salute. Much respect from another balance druid. You guys rock.
Music is oddly suited for this fight, especially the first half, when you consider how much the Mighty Swing phase resembles a dance. Most tanks on this fight were judged on how well they could do the "dance".
You would never understand even a fracture of this effort without progressing in heroic modes once they are open :D These guys are just pure gold in wow! RIP Lappe :(
Agreed, but alot of people would argue, most of them having played TBC/Vanilla like myself, that fights such as LK HC and Ragnaros HC before any sort of nerfs or hotfixes, were alot harder then the world firsts they got. No hate though I love both guilds.
They did this within 24 hours of the raid release. I want you to take into account all of the guilds who raided every night for 5-6 hours a night in order to achieve the same feat. That's like saying that the first level 90 has no life, when, in reality, it took him less time to hit 90 than it took everybody else that hit 90 first day of release.
It's down to 25 man being alot more co-ordination, less space to work with if you spread, more to heal etc etc, however you can make some mistakes in 25 man and it tends to not wipe the raid, whereas 10 man, each person is a vital part of the group, they die and you have no resses, you suddenly find yourself with 10% less manpower. 25man, 1 dies its not a massive deal. Both have their merits.
Y U NO SCREAM!!11 it's comforting to see that the warrior isn't dancing ^_^ i guess i don't have to torture myself then either. and great job guys. nice to see paragon at the top again after the dragon fail ban crap.
Fun fact - they did not have bloodlust and their DPS warrior was standing afk in ranged not atacking the bosses after adds are dead (not to fail opportunity strike probabbly). Yes, 10 man is harder obviously.
I like the fact that Paragon was and is still the most high-end raiding guild out there, even Nihilum can't get close with their world first achies. :)
just a passive thing with tank classes, as they take damage, their vengeance buff goes up, giving them more AP, which of course means their damage can rise to huge numbers.
i actually agree with a comment on this video, if 25man guilds claims that 10man raiding is so mutch easier and on the other hand also claims that they are going hardcore for world firsts then it makes no sense why they are continuing with 25 people, because in their logic the fastest / easiest way to beat the bosses is go 10man.
Yes, a Boomkin, Boomies don't need to cast 24/7 to deal full DMG, specially if there is multiple mobs, the more dots, the more insta casts of Starsurge, the higher the DMG you deal without having to cast.
yes ofc but you can do those perfectly by standing still. and it's best to do so in this fight because if you move too much and stand in a dead zone you get one hit; like this PoV did. you just basicly need to stand (stack), turn around and dot when needed. you don't have to run around aimlessly that's what im saying
Yeah Paragon got their 10-man kill before Method's 25-man kill, however for some reason people don't think 10-man counts. Dunno why tbh. I don't play the game anymore, however Paragon is amazing and can't resist watching their vids..
All those 25man guilds with huge epeens should try it on 10 man. It is no less difficult, some aspects become harder even. The only real difference between the two are organisational, but if you can't organise people you're going to derp derp anyway.
Someone didn't pay attention in the class here, the greatest 25 man raiding guild of all time is Nihilum, leading with Kungen in front. There is absolutely no one in Paragon that can match his raiding count, maybe in three years it would be if they continued 25 man raiding, which they didn't so Paragon's member will never come close to the killcount Nihilum has under it's name.
So the record button is bound to his Wrath button? If you factor in the fade in from black animation it's exactly the same time Wrath is being cast. They just edited out the Heart of Wild kitties so 25mans didn't stack 15 druids.
Nice video, nice fight.... But I do miss the epicness coming from your 25man raid. This nothing compare to watching you kill LK 25HC and all the other WF who came next....
As Muqq said once "every good thing come to an end"...
This was before the change to gateway where you didn't have to click on it to use it, so i'm assuming they decided not to use it because it was too much of a hassle to dodge them while kiting in the chaos.
This is a misconception. Look at the heroic kills in Firelands of bosses Baleroc and Rag. 25 man guilds were going into the enrage timer in order to beat Baleroc, not because of any slacking, just simply because of how much health the boss had. And Paragon had to drop down to 3 healers in able to have the dps to beat rags enrage timer. The difficulty with 10man was having the right comp of cds and such. But with the amount of homogenization there is now that's not the case.
Tanking this on heroic was one of my last acts on wow. Remember this music fondly.
still come back to watch this because the music goes so well with the fight
+Matthew Bidinger I know that feel bro. Just Epic
+Matthew Bidinger Saaame.
Hehe, i was here 4 years ago and i am still coming back. Never gets old
Greatest guild of all time. You will fondly be remembered, Thank you
This is the first boss fight I've seen for MoP and I must say that it looks amazing. I miss the old fights, like Illidari Council, Kael'thas and Lady Vashj that always had so much going on. I'm not going to start playing again, but it was good to see this.
None will make more epic videos than Paragon. I still watch them.
Paragon is without a doubt the best guild that ever existed in World of Warcraft.
People may argue that Ensidia may have been better at some point (I am not taking into consideration as of who has most 1st, but simply which guild is better), but I must say, Paragon has my vote.
Salute.
Much respect from another balance druid.
You guys rock.
Music is oddly suited for this fight, especially the first half, when you consider how much the Mighty Swing phase resembles a dance.
Most tanks on this fight were judged on how well they could do the "dance".
You would never understand even a fracture of this effort without progressing in heroic modes once they are open :D These guys are just pure gold in wow! RIP Lappe :(
I don't know anything about playing boomking but Lappé makes it beautiful.
Agreed, but alot of people would argue, most of them having played TBC/Vanilla like myself, that fights such as LK HC and Ragnaros HC before any sort of nerfs or hotfixes, were alot harder then the world firsts they got. No hate though I love both guilds.
Never ever was able to avoid all of those arcs :)
The choice of music made this into the best PvE videos I've seen since the killing of lich king^^
One of the best video... Ah, this music, so beatiful.
;(
6:36 "Was elegon hard?" "No"
That healer is KING! This is how i wish more fights were like where u litterally have to fight for mana to keep the raid up. Legends for sure!
i usually listen to metal & rock music but this music is so soothing.. damn
+iHalveien damn here we(me & you) are 2 years later since we commented on this video.
Gz for wf 10m and nice music like always, maybe for next time more character changes like on the kill videos before, is that possible?
They did this within 24 hours of the raid release. I want you to take into account all of the guilds who raided every night for 5-6 hours a night in order to achieve the same feat. That's like saying that the first level 90 has no life, when, in reality, it took him less time to hit 90 than it took everybody else that hit 90 first day of release.
It's down to 25 man being alot more co-ordination, less space to work with if you spread, more to heal etc etc, however you can make some mistakes in 25 man and it tends to not wipe the raid, whereas 10 man, each person is a vital part of the group, they die and you have no resses, you suddenly find yourself with 10% less manpower. 25man, 1 dies its not a massive deal. Both have their merits.
its nice to see paragon semi-struggle with a boss kill, it makes them more relatable
Y U NO SCREAM!!11
it's comforting to see that the warrior isn't dancing ^_^ i guess i don't have to torture myself then either.
and great job guys. nice to see paragon at the top again after the dragon fail ban crap.
Paragon is back! New challenges!
Greatting from all over the world!
Paragon always has the coolest music in their vids.
The music in the intro is just wow.
Paragon healers be like: Save mana? Ain't nobody got time fo dat. I'm just kidding. You guys are legends!
your boomkins are like an artform in and of themselves, congrats on your kill it was a pleasure to watch.
i cant belive how well u guys can fit the music with the bosses!
paragon FTW!
What a glorious video !!! Great sound ---- and straight forward ---- ;-) ---- CONGRATS !!!
Doing Mogushan Vaults again on Pandaria Remix, I had to watch this one again.
I love to see thous bones all around the floor, it shows how much effort do they put into encounter
The BEST Guild Ever ;) !
Agreed. And don't forget to mention Spine HC too :) Very fun and hard boss fight.
Awesome! Like the music playing was suitably epic.
The best music for a kill ive ever heard!
R.I.P Lappé - 2013 . We Love You
lappe is still playing :D
Exactly what I was thinking ~ made my day :>
I could watch Lappe moonfire things for hours
Paragon has always loved its thunderchickens :3
Fun fact - they did not have bloodlust and their DPS warrior was standing afk in ranged not atacking the bosses after adds are dead (not to fail opportunity strike probabbly). Yes, 10 man is harder obviously.
If paragon was a bear I'd give it a big bearhug
First song is "Remember Me" by "Thomas Bergersen"
aww the add does little ballerina spins :D
too bad there wasnt an enh shaman to pick up that helmet lol
grats!
Perfect music choice as always. 10/10
Just because some music genre doesn't fit your taste, doesn't mean it's bad.
Poor Lappe xD one shotted out of no where
where is your epic videos as usual paragon? With the epic intros and stuff!
Goooooooood job paragon, Nice to be back on top :)!
PARAGON FTW!!!! awesome music awesome player wow....
I like the fact that Paragon was and is still the most high-end raiding guild out there, even Nihilum can't get close with their world first achies. :)
Very very good music choice , gz on world first from Avarita-EU_Blackmoore
amen to that, beautiful music.. unlike the dubstep most people use nowadays
Very nice video and music!
just a passive thing with tank classes, as they take damage, their vengeance buff goes up, giving them more AP, which of course means their damage can rise to huge numbers.
Gratz from Switzerland ;)
life long and prosper
@TheKzwai As far as i know, Devai was not part of the T14 progress. The hunter in 'most' of the progress kills was Lazeili.
It was devai, i am pretty sure he admitted he used someone elses hunter, but i dont know if this is true
i actually agree with a comment on this video, if 25man guilds claims that 10man raiding is so mutch easier and on the other hand also claims that they are going hardcore for world firsts then it makes no sense why they are continuing with 25 people, because in their logic the fastest / easiest way to beat the bosses is go 10man.
Lappé is practicing for next marathon
btw, more dots? :D
Congrats nonetheless
Yes.....and because of Opportunistic Strike, an attack that the tank gets when they dodge every attack.
Thomas Bergersen - "Remember Me" [NEW - ILLUSIONS] - Is the song, Incredible...
Music on this is beautiful! Different strategy, interesting!
Paragon dominating WoW still even as 10man. Gz on world 1st!
I watched it the day it came up and checked the despcription, it was nothing there, must have updated it, thx anyway :D
Yes, a Boomkin, Boomies don't need to cast 24/7 to deal full DMG, specially if there is multiple mobs, the more dots, the more insta casts of Starsurge, the higher the DMG you deal without having to cast.
Wow guys, this music fits perfectly, nice taste!
Could we by any chance have Elegon kill video if it was recorded? Would love to see that. :)
The first score played was just so.....beautoful ;-;
yes ofc but you can do those perfectly by standing still. and it's best to do so in this fight because if you move too much and stand in a dead zone you get one hit; like this PoV did. you just basicly need to stand (stack), turn around and dot when needed. you don't have to run around aimlessly that's what im saying
Well, as you can read, only Lappé started recording 70% in, because they didn't actually expect a kill.
However I agree, more PoVs is more awesome!
gratz on world first 10 man :D
Ah, good. Nice to have that confirmed.
This video is just 5/5, music is from heaven and pov is good.
Yes Ensidia was a guild made by the fusion of Nihilum and SK Gaming at the end of TBC.
Yeah Paragon got their 10-man kill before Method's 25-man kill, however for some reason people don't think 10-man counts. Dunno why tbh. I don't play the game anymore, however Paragon is amazing and can't resist watching their vids..
All those 25man guilds with huge epeens should try it on 10 man. It is no less difficult, some aspects become harder even. The only real difference between the two are organisational, but if you can't organise people you're going to derp derp anyway.
You need to include nerdscreams and all the ramble during the last few %.
Epic music...6/6 cya!made my night=)
Gratz you guys :) Keep up with the rest of T14 to come :D
Someone didn't pay attention in the class here, the greatest 25 man raiding guild of all time is Nihilum, leading with Kungen in front. There is absolutely no one in Paragon that can match his raiding count, maybe in three years it would be if they continued 25 man raiding, which they didn't so Paragon's member will never come close to the killcount Nihilum has under it's name.
dang, thumbs up for them uncluding thomas bergersen
I feel so sorry for you're healers, they must be magnificent
Love the comment from guild chat when they killed it: "Nice guys"
First song let me cry ;)
Phenomenal job Paragon!
can come on twisting nether and whisper me, son. but who wants to be proven wrong on the internet, right
daily video, it makes my day...
So the record button is bound to his Wrath button? If you factor in the fade in from black animation it's exactly the same time Wrath is being cast. They just edited out the Heart of Wild kitties so 25mans didn't stack 15 druids.
Nice video, nice fight.... But I do miss the epicness coming from your 25man raid. This nothing compare to watching you kill LK 25HC and all the other WF who came next....
As Muqq said once "every good thing come to an end"...
Once again, proud to be finnish in the WoW community. :D
but nice job anyways 1st boomy ive seen in a while :P
Wow, when was the last time we got a world first clear in the first week of Hardmodes being available?
How come I only ever see the "Original" quality option on Paragon videos and nowhere else?
They had no chance, as the content was not yet released for them...
This was before the change to gateway where you didn't have to click on it to use it, so i'm assuming they decided not to use it because it was too much of a hassle to dodge them while kiting in the chaos.
This is a misconception. Look at the heroic kills in Firelands of bosses Baleroc and Rag. 25 man guilds were going into the enrage timer in order to beat Baleroc, not because of any slacking, just simply because of how much health the boss had. And Paragon had to drop down to 3 healers in able to have the dps to beat rags enrage timer.
The difficulty with 10man was having the right comp of cds and such. But with the amount of homogenization there is now that's not the case.
Absolutely awesome music!
This boss is rediculously undertuned in 10 man
Just epic, gratz on the kill, best players world
Lol at 6:38, "Was Elegon hard?" "No"
it's true, my guild spent 250 wipes or so on spirit kings, 19 wipes on elegon before we killed it on the same day as spirit kings died
its them making it look easy, but if you are in the fight its actually really difficult and pretty damn stressful