5 years later and this shit is still fucking epic. Edit: 12 years later, classic cata coming out soon, and this still stands as one of the most epic kill videos in WoW history.
+Sir Harrison The last of the epic 25 mans before Blizzard ruined raiding with 20 mans. Modern 20 mans are fun and challenging but addons are now allowed to play the game for people. DBM shows ground mechanics, Blizzard shows debuff radius, etc. Alot of little things 25 mans had to master in a larger scale without. Heck the fights are so short today too. 8-10 fights on the high end is rather sad. I like mythics, but they're not the same as top end raiding of the past, they fall short of being epic.
caaneq1 What? Garrosh was fucking insane, the world first kill was with a singe person left alive. The enrage timer was fucking insane and managing the last phase is gross. God forbid you were a healer dealing with 90% flashbang nukes every 6 seconds
Dear Friends, espeically those of you who tried this boss (before nerfs), you KNOW how SICK this fight was. Paragon at this time was UNTOUCHABLE. Beautiful video!
when i killed this it was after the first round of nerfs, but before the geyser removal, it was hell on earth for anxiety levels to not screw up your positioning around the patch of frost, if they ever do a cataclysm: classic, i couldn't do this again, too stressful for me now.
@@jnightrain because ulduar is/was easy. This boss is hard and on top of that has a lot of rng in last phase. First 6 bosses can be pre nerf and still be killed within 1-2 hours but raggy won't. Even if they get to practice it in beta.
a fuck ton of people who never experienced this fight during progression have no clue how difficult this encounter actually was...nightmares about geysers for weeks..
+Onlytheclouds 1989 and then the nerf happened and made it almost a joke, having to deal with that and having the people deal with the fire was absolutely insane. Fuck it felt so good to finally take him down during progression though, world 150 25 man too.
... They nerfed this fight hard after two weeks of it being current content because very few guilds managed to down it. You're just uninformed but i can see why you'd call someone else bad because of it, I would to if i was a moron.
Yep, this fight was hard. I wonder how it stacks up againts current raids? My casual guild never got it, 300 wipes, but our guild 1# on server was 800 wipes.
I'm 38 yrs old now. I remember playing this so vividly. I was a Mage and This was my peak of WoW. This was the most difficult fight I've ever played and performed in all my gaming life including every game (I'm an ex - pro gamer). This is the best team fight, everyone in your team had perform at their peak. One mistake and if anyone dies we had to reset this long enduring fight. This was a guild killer. I played for a 10m HC Realm first guild in EU servers . Watching this video brings back emotions and feelings that cant be put in words. Ahhh I havent felt this way in a long time. Happy and grateful to know that I've lived such a passionate life. I can die peacefully now :P Thank you Paragon for this video! You guys are truly legendary.
@@eznex5249 I wish I raided back in wotlk but when I started playing it was towards the end of the xpac I made it to 80 got to do some heroic dungeons then cars came out and the first raid I ever did and fully cleared was dragon soul normal and to me it was a very very epic experience for my first raid
@@SpicyJalapeno96 When Ulduar came out...me and the bois made it into the watcher room and we did try Mimiron. Well we would have but the trash fucking ended us, lol.
***** Well Soo is not too bad. I started MoP mid summer, currently 2/14 hc with guild. Never got to experience any other MoP raid in normal than Soo, but i just don't like them anyway :P
***** and one of the most annoying one to progress like, literally if noone can deal 140k or more DPS because your gear is to shit that fight takes 22 to 24 minutes. thats just insane. and not really fun.
***** garrosh isn't random dude, the whole start of pandaria is him and the alliance trying to take over the island but tarhan zhu says he cannot, then his pride takes over and bam.
last phase in heroic is easier then 3th phase overall. its really just "know what it does, know the timers, then dont fuck up." the hardest part is the iron star really.
This Boss on Heroic ravaged so many guilds, including mine, back in those days. I remember when Paragon killed this guy, and nobody could believe it. We never even killed him, that's how HARD this encounter was. To this day, I think it's suffice to say top 3 most difficult fights in WoW. RIP to the golden days.
3 healers, its mindblowing, that they only had 3 healers.. nothing has and will never get close to this kill, mark my words, never again, we'll see a boss kill like this in Wow, never again.
***** Yes but in fights like Siegecrafter Blackfuse where there is a lot going on 25man is harder. Paragon even got world first 10man heroic on rag and said 25man was way harder for this fight.
Brandon Perry Well, that was Rag. There are some fights, such as Ragnaros and the LK, who are harder in 25man. But Lei Shen, Ra-Den, and Garrosh were much harder in 10man.
3 years later. I'm here to tell you and also just to kill your paragone fanboyism, Method Just killed the lastest final boss of the current tier on Mythic Difficulty with only 3 healers :p
The last phase when he gets legs and just walk up just shows how much much more epic and well thought this fight was than anything Blizzard had come up with in a long time! The game really needs more of this, not more "Kill adds, attack boss, loot" like deathwing..
Zergons Deathwing was easy... just a dps check... we killed DW hm without any challenge (spine was much harder), but we couldn't kill ragna hm even with 410ilevel...
9 years have passed since I made my last comment. Now Cataclysm is coming back in Classic mode. I wonder who will be able to beat this OG fight.. one of the best fights ever made in WoW.
Still arguably the most difficult boss WoW has ever seen. My argument is this: Heroic Ragnaros was a 15+ minute fight, where the most difficult part of the fight happened in the very last phase. This meant practicing this phase required 10+ minutes per attempt just to go into that phase. On top of that, mechanics and awareness were more difficult than the "legendary" burning crusade and vanilla wow fights which were difficult only because players were not as skilled as they are today. If today's top guilds progressed in old raids like they did when it was current content, I'm sure a lot of it would've been killed much quicker and easier. The raid coordination required for seeds was phenomenal, and playing as a demo lock on progression required a ton of micro management that made the fight very enjoyable. Also, for the sake of my argument I'm ignoring bosses that were impossible to kill before nerfs or hotfixes.
As someone who progressed on this boss and several other heroic endbosses I must say LK HC was harder, this one was probably 2nd, but LK was just omfg kill me.
Brutal boss...600+ attempts for us on 25 man before we downed it. I seriously went to look in the mirror to see if my hair was gray after we killed it.....
This was a defining Raid fight, and video, in WoW. Not for it's mechanics but for two things that happened. The first being that there was no Shamans in the raid fight at all. This was a cause of outrage and concern among the Shaman community as a 25 fight would normally have at least one of each class and at least a Resto Shaman. A number of reasons were given but the biggest, at least that I can remember, was totems limiting them during the high movement of the fight, which likely caused the redesign to totems in MoP. The second was the Bear Tank accidently releasing his Spirit at the end of the fight and locking him of the raid and therefore the achievement for the kill. This lead to you not being able to release your Spirit during a fight anymore until the boss is dead or the Raid wipes. I hope this helps people appreciate this video even more! :)
This is imo the best and most fun fight in Cataclysm. Much like the Lich King fight in Wrath it is varied and challenging (a bit too challenging in this case though before the nerfs).
Did it at the time, in the top FR rush, the music fits really well with the feeling when phase 4 was beginning. Everybody was like "Now the real sh*t begins"
Love how Ramuul, Cenarius and Malfurion just stand there. Is it too much to ask to swing your weapon at him a bit? Grommash and Akama did that. Tirion couldn't. But these guys? Lazy bums...
[Smoldering Egg of Millagazor] is my go to flying mount when I have the option. Even after all these years. The sweat, blood, and tears that went into an early kill on that boss is hard to understate.
Paragon inspired me to raid and I've been doing that since WOTLK until CN on Shadowlands. Jhazrun made me play Priest until nowdays. Those clips are masterpiece, Paragon/DREAM Paragon was absurdly skilled. This video remembers me when I had more time to play. Good old days. LK kill is memorable clip tho. Cheers to everyone
Still come back to this video at least once a year just because of how good of a fight this was and how epic it is. God I hope Legion has boss fights on this level. Archimonde was literally the only epic boss fight in Warlords which is really disappointing.
Gordon, no. I'm sorry, but I prefer when it's just 1 boss, with insane and overpowered/overtuned mechanics, with no transitions like that. A huuuuuge healthpool and mechanics that test the most seasoned of hardcore raiders, that's what I like.
One of my proudest achievements was getting M Archimonde down, the path i had to take in order for it to happen wasnt the traditional way of ONE guild and however many attempts a team needed to down it, i had to re-create 2 sinking ships in order to be in a competent raid team for what was already a REALLY hard boss. It was special because it was my last end-boss kill before i quit.
I miss playong WoW. I would always get excited when paragon releases a boss kill video, especially this one. This was a hard fight before the nerf so it was exciting to watch. Miss the good old days :(
On stream,Sco mentioned that one of the best things about Lei Shen was that when you reach him,your group should have the appropriate gear levels to kill him and I can confirm that,though I got there tons of resets later.Tbh it shouldn'be possible to actually aquire enough gear to clear a whole raid in 1 HC reset,regardless of the fact they had their set bonuses&ToT normals.If it was worse than spine it would req. a lot more time&class stacking,only class stacking was locks for dem portals :D
if you know this fight before prenerf, this wasn't easy at all. Paragon will always be that special group of people with the same mindset, clearing everything weeks or months before everybody else. Will forever miss Paragon and this times.
heya seem's it's a bit late to comment this awesome down, I'd just like to know what is the addon manni uses for the tracking of his spells on cooldwon like his soul shatter, HoG, Sflame etc Waiting to see you first kills on the t14!
Even though Cataclysm had a LOT of bad points... one thing Blizzard certainly got right was the boss fights in that expansion. Sinestra, Heroic Al'akir, Heroic Ragnaros, Heroic Madness of Deathwing... all EXTREMELY epic fights and actually proved to be quite difficult (Madness was to an extent but was beaten faster.) I still remember even at the end of the expansion a lot of the heroic raiders had the Madness kill but were 6/7H in this tier because Heroic Ragnaros was just that difficult. Most groups wouldn't even go past a second attempt depending on where you wiped at because this fight took 15+ minutes. MOP did a LOT better than Cataclysm did but Cataclysm excelled further in these last tier boss fights. Heroic Sha of Fear and Heroic Lei Shen are pretty excellent fights as well but Garrosh and Heroic Garrosh... just don't feel as epic at all. Good fights but don't have the same feeling as these fights did.
Everything about 4.3 and dragon soul sucked, all the raids before then where awesome, and ragnoros was considered by many the true end of cataclysm because SO MANY realms downed deathwing heroic first before ragnoros. Ragnoros was so damn hard he actually compared the the lich king in difficulty
michael jones Completely agree. I remember him being overtuned and then getting that small heroic nerf to one of his abilities and that really didn't help much. I was 6/7H for quite some time. Go figure as soon as we get to Heroic Ragnaros some people on raid nights just did absolutely shitty and died to just stupid things like 'world in flames'. It was stupid. Then in 4.3 cross realm raiding was released. I still remember one morning going on Openraid and finding a Heroic DS run. Literally completed the raid in about an hour and a half with 1 wipe. We go into Firelands and guess what happens? Wipe on heroic. People were literally running Heroic: Firelands and then on Ragnaros switching to normal because it was that hard... and still wiping on normal. It got so bad that I couldn't find a single group to beat Heroic Rag that I had to actually take up an offer of paying 200k just for the kill from the top guild on the server at the time. Definitely was worth it though as they got me the last meta achievement I was missing which got me the Corrupted Firehawk and the Pureblood. Just for the Pureblood alone it was worth it. tl;dr yeah this fight was extremely good in all aspects. Difficulty and epicness.
Andrew Rose you payed 200K for that? wow! lol, i guess my guild got lucky and we downed heroic raggy (obviously after we had all the dragon-soul gear, no in hell way would we have taken raggy with that crap gear)
It's been nearly six years and this is still one of the greatest WFs and nerdscreams ever. This boss was amazing. And from what ToS is looking like the last two bosses might even be able to compete with this bad boy.
stumbled upon this video in my favourite list, my hair stood up towards the end, holy shit I love old wow, many say it ended with cata but I'd say MoP, that's when they took away devs and mechanics, talent trees, gear etc... I think cata and Wotlk where the most balanced expansions ever while still feeling like a world, bc and vanilla are not really that hard everyone always says, they're just a lot of grinding
This was one of the scariest and hardest bosses in wow’s history. 500+ wipes it taken for these guys to finally down him and it was insanity from what I remembered with this fight. You can hate on cata all you want but you have to admit tier 11 & 12 was the best for content at the time.
for me, cataclysm ragnaros is the best boss in the history of WoW, especially the design of the battle and the last phase, if you look at the current bosses, they are not even close
I mean you're just wrong. Take a look at recent Mythic endbosses (Uu'nat, Sire Denathrius, prenerf Jailer, Raszageth) and you'll see it's just not even close.@@shtNetwork
Paragon killed this boss one whole week (!) before Method killed it World 2nd (the predecessor guild of today's Echo and Method teams). One whole week! Think of all the gear and practice you can get in another week of time...
I can assure you that the fight itself was incredibly challenging and tiresome. This Ragnaros was one of the hardest fights ever. It took Paragon over 500 wipes to kill him. Just so much stuff going on to watch out for and every little failure has a huge impact on the outcome
fireland was an amazing content with awesome boss mechanics. 90% talk about the difficult like it was to easy, but only 1% killed Ragnaros HC and only 5% killed the other.
They did do it 10 man just 1 week later. What is your pve experience in 10 and 25 man? I have do ragnaros in both difficulties during the firelands and 10 man was a lot easier. You killed Ragnaros in both the difficulties during the firelands or you are just talking randomly?
Actually right now, a year and a half later, is an absolutely perfect time to start playing. it's the very end of the Warlords expansion, and the Legion expansion is still a couple months away. Every new expansion largely makes the game anew, lots of people playing, guilds recruiting, everything is new to everyone, etc. Start now and you got time to get used to the game's mechanics and your chosen class before it launches. :)
Arthas144 I wouldn't call these raids complete garbage. The only problems i have with them is the bugs that some bosses STILL have after this long and the RNG on some bosses (Like M Kromog) These raids are not bad, this one just had a really good final boss.
Eamon C What I meant was that the raids were missing that "epic feeling". I dont find anything epic in having an orc end boss for two tiers, and thank god they didnt put gromm as a final boss in the hellfire citadel :D. Also killing the final boss on the hardest difficulty didnt take 1-2 weeks. When I killed Rag with my guild in 4.2 it felt epic since very few guild have killed them, and after I killed blackhand in lfr I had no interest in doing that raid anymore. Anyway Im not a mythic raider but that's how I see it.
Arthas144 I agree with you to a point. But i think basing your "Epic" feeling off of LFR is the wrong way to go. You could jump into LFR, take off all of your gear and dance around the boss and STILL kill it. Doing Blackhand on Heroic for the first time took a while and most high end guilds didn't even have it down on the first day like they usually would. Even Method has said that MYTHIC Blackhand was one of the most tightly tuned bosses they have done in a while. Try Blackhand on Heroic, it may not be the end END game but it's still pretty far in and it's still pretty cool when the floor gets blown up beneath your feet to reveal a new stage of the fight. WoD is a failure no doubt but not everything turned out poorly.
Eamon C I agree with you. What I am trying to say is that back in 4.2 ( for example ) you had to work your way to be able to see the last boss, now you just click "Join que" ;D. Im not playing for the gear, I want to see the last boss. If I wanted to kill the same boss on 4 different difficulties I would be playing Diablo. When I killed blackhnd lfr I was like "Ok wtf am I supposed to do now, I dont want to farm brf for months to see the same boss with 2 new abilities and more dmg/hp %". Anyway thats just how I see it ;P
dang honestly havent gotten chance to do any raids well...ever seeing as i cant actually afford the game only like every holiday nd im always behind an expansion so raid gear is usually weaker than quest gear but dang that looks like it takes forever lol exactly how long does it take to down that guy?
Did you progress on this boss when it was current content? This was a very mechanic based encounter with the addition of requiring high damage, I will probably get my head bite off for this but the game hasn't got easier, the players have got better, in vanilla people would back peddle constantly, where as now everyone knows how in-efficient it is (just an example not the basis of my argument) this boss is extremely mechanic based and was extremely difficult to progress on.
This is the best WoW-video on youtube. Though it was their Nefarian-video that made me start playin WoW. Blizzard should honor Paragon in some way. It does not have to be money. An ingame memorial of some sort considering I am one of probably thousands or tens of thousands new beginners thanks to them.
And how was that, by adding twice as many bosses? Every raid has its unique bosses. But what I don't understand is do you like the raid because of it's boss fight mechanics or just because it felt epic ( and by that I mean great environment, music, lore, characters, etc.)?
Still one of the most epic WoW videos ever produced. So proud to have my music in this!
They are too cool, mainly the 7/4 ones
edgelord
great music friend :)
I've played hundreds of hours of ToME. Was great to hear it again!
That is so cool, this was my favorite video Paragon ever put out. The music just makes the video
5 years later and this shit is still fucking epic.
Edit: 12 years later, classic cata coming out soon, and this still stands as one of the most epic kill videos in WoW history.
Ikr...
+Sir Harrison The last of the epic 25 mans before Blizzard ruined raiding with 20 mans. Modern 20 mans are fun and challenging but addons are now allowed to play the game for people. DBM shows ground mechanics, Blizzard shows debuff radius, etc. Alot of little things 25 mans had to master in a larger scale without. Heck the fights are so short today too. 8-10 fights on the high end is rather sad. I like mythics, but they're not the same as top end raiding of the past, they fall short of being epic.
Don't forget about 25M Lei Shen. Sadly both Deathwing and Garrosh/Sha of Fear were a bit of a let down compared to Ragnaros and Lei Shen
yeah id have to argue ToT Lei Shen and archimond only Mythic exceptions, those were hard as hell although otherwise u are right
caaneq1 What? Garrosh was fucking insane, the world first kill was with a singe person left alive. The enrage timer was fucking insane and managing the last phase is gross. God forbid you were a healer dealing with 90% flashbang nukes every 6 seconds
Dear Friends, espeically those of you who tried this boss (before nerfs), you KNOW how SICK this fight was. Paragon at this time was UNTOUCHABLE. Beautiful video!
when i killed this it was after the first round of nerfs, but before the geyser removal, it was hell on earth for anxiety levels to not screw up your positioning around the patch of frost, if they ever do a cataclysm: classic, i couldn't do this again, too stressful for me now.
@@rogoth01themasterwizard11 if they do, it certainly won't be a pre-nerf version for sure. unfortunatly.
@@Dane3412 why would they do pre nerf ulduar but not pre nerf here?
I constantly review, the incredible and most beautiful battle in the entire history of World of Warcraft
@@jnightrain because ulduar is/was easy. This boss is hard and on top of that has a lot of rng in last phase. First 6 bosses can be pre nerf and still be killed within 1-2 hours but raggy won't. Even if they get to practice it in beta.
Cataclysm is so underrated. Tier 11 and 12 were the greatest of all time.
i think so. fireland was my best time in WoW
a fuck ton of people who never experienced this fight during progression have no clue how difficult this encounter actually was...nightmares about geysers for weeks..
+Onlytheclouds 1989 and then the nerf happened and made it almost a joke, having to deal with that and having the people deal with the fire was absolutely insane. Fuck it felt so good to finally take him down during progression though, world 150 25 man too.
... They nerfed this fight hard after two weeks of it being current content because very few guilds managed to down it. You're just uninformed but i can see why you'd call someone else bad because of it, I would to if i was a moron.
@@TadSoft Still the most nerfed boss ever
I'm getying all nostalgic thinking about all the great times i've had from playing this game ..
Watching this video after 7 years still touching. Ragnaros took us around 850 attempts to take it down, was an epic fight and I miss it a lot
this fight alone is better than both legion and bfa combined.
@@dimkacracker and he'll be back november with all the boys Kael'thas and Lich King in the 9 boss raid fight for the DEATHWING MOUNT!!!!
@@dimkacracker legion was decent, BFA is dogshit
i thought it was around 550 pulls i might be wrong though, hell of a fight one of the best
Yep, this fight was hard. I wonder how it stacks up againts current raids? My casual guild never got it, 300 wipes, but our guild 1# on server was 800 wipes.
10 years later and still EPIC
Im happy to say i killed this pre-nerf. The amount of movement and coordination this fight took was massive.
I'm 38 yrs old now. I remember playing this so vividly. I was a Mage and This was my peak of WoW. This was the most difficult fight I've ever played and performed in all my gaming life including every game (I'm an ex - pro gamer). This is the best team fight, everyone in your team had perform at their peak. One mistake and if anyone dies we had to reset this long enduring fight. This was a guild killer. I played for a 10m HC Realm first guild in EU servers . Watching this video brings back emotions and feelings that cant be put in words. Ahhh I havent felt this way in a long time. Happy and grateful to know that I've lived such a passionate life. I can die peacefully now :P
Thank you Paragon for this video! You guys are truly legendary.
who's here after wow classic cata announcement?
Kekw
XD
Nope
Year 2023, still my hair raises when i see this video. Such an epic boss, such an amazing fight, such a legendary team!
R.I.P Paragon.
R.I.P. awesome firelands time
Nepe
Idk what happen to them ?
@@aleksandarcvetkovic241 they had huge problems to recruit finnish speaking people and they dont wanted to raid in english, so they disbanded
@@BlaumannRockLee Is this really what happened? This can't be the reason Paragon disbanded.
That moment when you didn't know that Ragnaros had legs...
Ryolith 2.0
this is a piece of cake comapred to mimiron hard mode buddy u have no idea
@@eznex5249 just think how hard it would have been if Breath of Frost was done how they wanted it to be and not the 3 spots strat
@@eznex5249 I wish I raided back in wotlk but when I started playing it was towards the end of the xpac I made it to 80 got to do some heroic dungeons then cars came out and the first raid I ever did and fully cleared was dragon soul normal and to me it was a very very epic experience for my first raid
@@SpicyJalapeno96 When Ulduar came out...me and the bois made it into the watcher room and we did try Mimiron. Well we would have but the trash fucking ended us, lol.
Jeez, i miss the firelands raiding days :(
So do i :P Firelands > any MoP/Cata raid.
***** Well Soo is not too bad. I started MoP mid summer, currently 2/14 hc with guild. Never got to experience any other MoP raid in normal than Soo, but i just don't like them anyway :P
*****
and one of the most annoying one to progress
like, literally if noone can deal 140k or more DPS because your gear is to shit that fight takes 22 to 24 minutes. thats just insane. and not really fun.
***** garrosh isn't random dude, the whole start of pandaria is him and the alliance trying to take over the island but tarhan zhu says he cannot, then his pride takes over and bam.
last phase in heroic is easier then 3th phase overall. its really just "know what it does, know the timers, then dont fuck up." the hardest part is the iron star really.
This Boss on Heroic ravaged so many guilds, including mine, back in those days. I remember when Paragon killed this guy, and nobody could believe it. We never even killed him, that's how HARD this encounter was. To this day, I think it's suffice to say top 3 most difficult fights in WoW. RIP to the golden days.
I’d say golden days died with lick. Cats was beginning of the end
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@@runyanpiano Tell me you are bad at raiding without telling me
i still visit this video every now and then to watch this pure skill spectacle. i miss you guys so very much.. world is truly darker without you
3 healers, its mindblowing, that they only had 3 healers.. nothing has and will never get close to this kill, mark my words, never again, we'll see a boss kill like this in Wow, never again.
10man .___.
***** Yes but in fights like Siegecrafter Blackfuse where there is a lot going on 25man is harder. Paragon even got world first 10man heroic on rag and said 25man was way harder for this fight.
Brandon Perry Well, that was Rag. There are some fights, such as Ragnaros and the LK, who are harder in 25man.
But Lei Shen, Ra-Den, and Garrosh were much harder in 10man.
3 years later. I'm here to tell you and also just to kill your paragone fanboyism, Method Just killed the lastest final boss of the current tier on Mythic Difficulty with only 3 healers :p
-5 ppl ok?
Didn't play WoW after first tier of Cataclysm BUT Ragnaros fight looks like the most epic fight in WoW history.
Teh only hard fight in FL. Others were amazing, unique, but easy.
+erikakerstedt It is definetely up there with a few others like LK
Old comment but just wanna say that yeah, it was. Was an incredible experience doing this fight back when it was first out. Such awesome memories!! :D
The last phase when he gets legs and just walk up just shows how much much more epic and well thought this fight was than anything Blizzard had come up with in a long time! The game really needs more of this, not more "Kill adds, attack boss, loot" like deathwing..
The true endboss of Cataclysm. By mechanics it was brilliant, Deathwing sucked balls, he was hard, but boring as fuck.
Deathwing was roflstomp boss. Really easy to defeat and the fact you could farm DS for 8 months just made it more easier.
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yeah, we stuck at spine like other guilds but when you did spine, deathwings was like couple pulls and thats it
Well i meant deathwing like the both fight, spire and madness, but if you put it that way madness was pretty easy.
Dominik Zergons I rember DS as the most boring Raid I´ve played in Cata...
We killed everysingle Boss in our first run
Zergons Deathwing was easy... just a dps check... we killed DW hm without any challenge (spine was much harder), but we couldn't kill ragna hm even with 410ilevel...
9 years have passed since I made my last comment. Now Cataclysm is coming back in Classic mode. I wonder who will be able to beat this OG fight.. one of the best fights ever made in WoW.
One of the most epic, hardest and best bosses in WoW history.. feels just like yesterday.
Best guild ever
Still arguably the most difficult boss WoW has ever seen. My argument is this: Heroic Ragnaros was a 15+ minute fight, where the most difficult part of the fight happened in the very last phase. This meant practicing this phase required 10+ minutes per attempt just to go into that phase. On top of that, mechanics and awareness were more difficult than the "legendary" burning crusade and vanilla wow fights which were difficult only because players were not as skilled as they are today. If today's top guilds progressed in old raids like they did when it was current content, I'm sure a lot of it would've been killed much quicker and easier. The raid coordination required for seeds was phenomenal, and playing as a demo lock on progression required a ton of micro management that made the fight very enjoyable. Also, for the sake of my argument I'm ignoring bosses that were impossible to kill before nerfs or hotfixes.
As someone who progressed on this boss and several other heroic endbosses I must say LK HC was harder, this one was probably 2nd, but LK was just omfg kill me.
pontus spjut Verdisha said that this boss was the hardest and that the only boss to come close was HC LK so you cant really state anything as fact :/
Madness of Deathwing HC was the most difficult fight ever, but also the most epic one.
Cobb You gotta be shitting me. Madness of Deathwing doesn't get anywhere close to LK or Ragnaros. Funniest thing I've heard in a while.
xQuALiTy94 Yah Spine was way harder than madness (shit fight though) so i dont understand how anyone could think madness was the hardest :/
We are going home my fellow firelands brothers! I am excited to see how this boss truly holds up after so many years.
Doing it on private server to get ready for launch in October, and yeah it's hard as fuck
Brutal boss...600+ attempts for us on 25 man before we downed it. I seriously went to look in the mirror to see if my hair was gray after we killed it.....
and you still killed it after the nerf im pretty sure
@@Wewurs Late answer but nope prenerf. 🙏
7 years later and still epic!
Yeah. Fireland was awesome.
This was a defining Raid fight, and video, in WoW. Not for it's mechanics but for two things that happened.
The first being that there was no Shamans in the raid fight at all. This was a cause of outrage and concern among the Shaman community as a 25 fight would normally have at least one of each class and at least a Resto Shaman. A number of reasons were given but the biggest, at least that I can remember, was totems limiting them during the high movement of the fight, which likely caused the redesign to totems in MoP.
The second was the Bear Tank accidently releasing his Spirit at the end of the fight and locking him of the raid and therefore the achievement for the kill. This lead to you not being able to release your Spirit during a fight anymore until the boss is dead or the Raid wipes.
I hope this helps people appreciate this video even more! :)
Lazeil (prot paladin) released spirit, not Sejta
Was the release issue resolved? Did he get his achievement or?
@@HbVki IIRC Blizzard manually added the achievement to them so things worked out ok. :)
I will never lose faith in your return.
one day will return! in my dreams :/
This is imo the best and most fun fight in Cataclysm.
Much like the Lich King fight in Wrath it is varied and challenging (a bit too challenging in this case though before the nerfs).
after even almost 3 years, its still enjoyable to watch your FD videos. Cheers Paragon, looking forward you guys making good progression in WoD.
That fight looks so mentally exhausting lol. That last phase...such a long fight.
Did it at the time, in the top FR rush, the music fits really well with the feeling when phase 4 was beginning. Everybody was like "Now the real sh*t begins"
Meh, takes me 20 secs to kill Rag; don't see what the big deal is
Marvin Steele Ur dumb
Marvin Steele u r hilarious lol
+Tim Cooper can you not detect sarcasm facepalm
+mcballs duck saying ur dumb, doesnt mean what you think, his joke is dumb, funny, but dumb.
+Rooblin wasn't even funny.
The best boss ever created. Rip Paragon.
Love how Ramuul, Cenarius and Malfurion just stand there.
Is it too much to ask to swing your weapon at him a bit?
Grommash and Akama did that. Tirion couldn't. But these guys? Lazy bums...
10 years to the day today, by date yesterday, rip WoW.
Usso: "The one who taunts."
Lazeil: "The one who releases."
[Smoldering Egg of Millagazor] is my go to flying mount when I have the option. Even after all these years. The sweat, blood, and tears that went into an early kill on that boss is hard to understate.
RIP Paragon
+TheBlackScyth RIP best kill-videos of all time
+Hi There They announced to quit pfu raid competition in future xpac
+肖云鹏
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Who is still watching in 2022?
always watching! they still inspire me to this day.
Paragon inspired me to raid and I've been doing that since WOTLK until CN on Shadowlands. Jhazrun made me play Priest until nowdays. Those clips are masterpiece, Paragon/DREAM Paragon was absurdly skilled. This video remembers me when I had more time to play. Good old days. LK kill is memorable clip tho. Cheers to everyone
My heart still lie somewhere down in Firelands...
Firelands is overrated blizz have released atleast 5 raids since then that have been better
Still come back to this video at least once a year just because of how good of a fight this was and how epic it is.
God I hope Legion has boss fights on this level. Archimonde was literally the only epic boss fight in Warlords which is really disappointing.
you don't think Imperator Mar'gok was epic? with the Cho'gall sequence at the end? really?
Not really, no. It was alright don't get me wrong but I wouldn't label it as epic.
Gordon, no.
I'm sorry, but I prefer when it's just 1 boss, with insane and overpowered/overtuned mechanics, with no transitions like that. A huuuuuge healthpool and mechanics that test the most seasoned of hardcore raiders, that's what I like.
One of my proudest achievements was getting M Archimonde down, the path i had to take in order for it to happen wasnt the traditional way of ONE guild and however many attempts a team needed to down it, i had to re-create 2 sinking ships in order to be in a competent raid team for what was already a REALLY hard boss. It was special because it was my last end-boss kill before i quit.
I miss playong WoW. I would always get excited when paragon releases a boss kill video, especially this one. This was a hard fight before the nerf so it was exciting to watch. Miss the good old days :(
On stream,Sco mentioned that one of the best things about Lei Shen was that when you reach him,your group should have the appropriate gear levels to kill him and I can confirm that,though I got there tons of resets later.Tbh it shouldn'be possible to actually aquire enough gear to clear a whole raid in 1 HC reset,regardless of the fact they had their set bonuses&ToT normals.If it was worse than spine it would req. a lot more time&class stacking,only class stacking was locks for dem portals :D
Back when WoW still was about being epic as fuck
if you know this fight before prenerf, this wasn't easy at all. Paragon will always be that special group of people with the same mindset, clearing everything weeks or months before everybody else. Will forever miss Paragon and this times.
best fight in WOW for me ...thx Blizz
for me just after LK
This is part of the World of warcraft history
heya seem's it's a bit late to comment this awesome down, I'd just like to know what is the addon manni uses for the tracking of his spells on cooldwon like his soul shatter, HoG, Sflame etc
Waiting to see you first kills on the t14!
Even though Cataclysm had a LOT of bad points... one thing Blizzard certainly got right was the boss fights in that expansion.
Sinestra, Heroic Al'akir, Heroic Ragnaros, Heroic Madness of Deathwing... all EXTREMELY epic fights and actually proved to be quite difficult (Madness was to an extent but was beaten faster.)
I still remember even at the end of the expansion a lot of the heroic raiders had the Madness kill but were 6/7H in this tier because Heroic Ragnaros was just that difficult. Most groups wouldn't even go past a second attempt depending on where you wiped at because this fight took 15+ minutes.
MOP did a LOT better than Cataclysm did but Cataclysm excelled further in these last tier boss fights. Heroic Sha of Fear and Heroic Lei Shen are pretty excellent fights as well but Garrosh and Heroic Garrosh... just don't feel as epic at all. Good fights but don't have the same feeling as these fights did.
Everything about 4.3 and dragon soul sucked, all the raids before then where awesome, and ragnoros was considered by many the true end of cataclysm because SO MANY realms downed deathwing heroic first before ragnoros. Ragnoros was so damn hard he actually compared the the lich king in difficulty
michael jones Completely agree. I remember him being overtuned and then getting that small heroic nerf to one of his abilities and that really didn't help much. I was 6/7H for quite some time. Go figure as soon as we get to Heroic Ragnaros some people on raid nights just did absolutely shitty and died to just stupid things like 'world in flames'. It was stupid.
Then in 4.3 cross realm raiding was released. I still remember one morning going on Openraid and finding a Heroic DS run. Literally completed the raid in about an hour and a half with 1 wipe. We go into Firelands and guess what happens? Wipe on heroic. People were literally running Heroic: Firelands and then on Ragnaros switching to normal because it was that hard... and still wiping on normal. It got so bad that I couldn't find a single group to beat Heroic Rag that I had to actually take up an offer of paying 200k just for the kill from the top guild on the server at the time. Definitely was worth it though as they got me the last meta achievement I was missing which got me the Corrupted Firehawk and the Pureblood. Just for the Pureblood alone it was worth it.
tl;dr yeah this fight was extremely good in all aspects. Difficulty and epicness.
Andrew Rose you payed 200K for that? wow! lol, i guess my guild got lucky and we downed heroic raggy (obviously after we had all the dragon-soul gear, no in hell way would we have taken raggy with that crap gear)
This was 5 years ago? Damn..
7 years. Time running, but we will always remember the awesome fireland.
about to be 10 years now.
@@HbVki 13 years right now
This makes Illidan, Nefarion, Kel'thuzad, Kiljaeden, Muru, Sinestra and the Lich King look easymode.
Respect from 2018.
single most impressive piece of raiding ive seen
It's been nearly six years and this is still one of the greatest WFs and nerdscreams ever.
This boss was amazing. And from what ToS is looking like the last two bosses might even be able to compete with this bad boy.
3 heals. 3. That is maximum e-peen.
stumbled upon this video in my favourite list, my hair stood up towards the end, holy shit I love old wow, many say it ended with cata but I'd say MoP, that's when they took away devs and mechanics, talent trees, gear etc... I think cata and Wotlk where the most balanced expansions ever while still feeling like a world, bc and vanilla are not really that hard everyone always says, they're just a lot of grinding
Sir you just typed out what I’ve been saying for years now.
10 years later its still the best video fight ever
This was one of the scariest and hardest bosses in wow’s history. 500+ wipes it taken for these guys to finally down him and it was insanity from what I remembered with this fight. You can hate on cata all you want but you have to admit tier 11 & 12 was the best for content at the time.
for me, cataclysm ragnaros is the best boss in the history of WoW, especially the design of the battle and the last phase, if you look at the current bosses, they are not even close
I mean you're just wrong. Take a look at recent Mythic endbosses (Uu'nat, Sire Denathrius, prenerf Jailer, Raszageth) and you'll see it's just not even close.@@shtNetwork
"Any close tries yet? :)"
[Realm First! Heroic: Ragnaros]
Until this day the most epic first kill video ever.
1440p... OMG
Who else think this transition with epicness of music is epic? :D 10:34
7 years later at that stomp at 11:54 is still the best transition to a song ever!
Best fight from Paragon!
Its so Fun and epic)
Paragon is first for me)
Paragon killed this boss one whole week (!) before Method killed it World 2nd (the predecessor guild of today's Echo and Method teams). One whole week! Think of all the gear and practice you can get in another week of time...
Did they actually use the same voice and the same effects for ragnaros, deathwing, and the lich king?
2023 is here! Best boss in the game!
Usso taunta everyone ? :D
The memories 😢I've probably watched this 200 times.
I can assure you that the fight itself was incredibly challenging and tiresome. This Ragnaros was one of the hardest fights ever. It took Paragon over 500 wipes to kill him. Just so much stuff going on to watch out for and every little failure has a huge impact on the outcome
fireland was an amazing content with awesome boss mechanics. 90% talk about the difficult like it was to easy, but only 1% killed Ragnaros HC and only 5% killed the other.
kampfmaulwurf123 In my experience as a hardcore raider , ragnaros heroic is the hardest boss in wow after leishen heroic.
kampfmaulwurf123 In my experience as a hardcore raider , ragnaros heroic is the hardest boss in wow after leishen heroic.
+Mert Amasyalı (Aka) Sauramon.
+Mert Amasyalı lich king 25 0%?
They did do it 10 man just 1 week later. What is your pve experience in 10 and 25 man? I have do ragnaros in both difficulties during the firelands and 10 man was a lot easier. You killed Ragnaros in both the difficulties during the firelands or you are just talking randomly?
when i watch this i feel like i've killed it :D
watching stuff like this makes me disapointed in the fact that i never played wow..
not too late to start
Actually right now, a year and a half later, is an absolutely perfect time to start playing. it's the very end of the Warlords expansion, and the Legion expansion is still a couple months away. Every new expansion largely makes the game anew, lots of people playing, guilds recruiting, everything is new to everyone, etc. Start now and you got time to get used to the game's mechanics and your chosen class before it launches. :)
Jake Stewart Pro advice here
@13:11 is that also elvui ,the raidframe at left side? or is it an extra addon? cant find any options for like this in elv :S
oh ty
Garrosh, Blackhand, even Archimonde...they'r world first kill will never be that epic. Take note blizz, your raids are pure garbage atm, rip wod
Arthas144 the worst part is that your right...
Arthas144 I wouldn't call these raids complete garbage.
The only problems i have with them is the bugs that some bosses STILL have after this long and the RNG on some bosses (Like M Kromog)
These raids are not bad, this one just had a really good final boss.
Eamon C What I meant was that the raids were missing that "epic feeling". I dont find anything epic in having an orc end boss for two tiers, and thank god they didnt put gromm as a final boss in the hellfire citadel :D. Also killing the final boss on the hardest difficulty didnt take 1-2 weeks. When I killed Rag with my guild in 4.2 it felt epic since very few guild have killed them, and after I killed blackhand in lfr I had no interest in doing that raid anymore. Anyway Im not a mythic raider but that's how I see it.
Arthas144 I agree with you to a point.
But i think basing your "Epic" feeling off of LFR is the wrong way to go.
You could jump into LFR, take off all of your gear and dance around the boss and STILL kill it.
Doing Blackhand on Heroic for the first time took a while and most high end guilds didn't even have it down on the first day like they usually would.
Even Method has said that MYTHIC Blackhand was one of the most tightly tuned bosses they have done in a while.
Try Blackhand on Heroic, it may not be the end END game but it's still pretty far in and it's still pretty cool when the floor gets blown up beneath your feet to reveal a new stage of the fight. WoD is a failure no doubt but not everything turned out poorly.
Eamon C I agree with you. What I am trying to say is that back in 4.2 ( for example ) you had to work your way to be able to see the last boss, now you just click "Join que" ;D. Im not playing for the gear, I want to see the last boss. If I wanted to kill the same boss on 4 different difficulties I would be playing Diablo. When I killed blackhnd lfr I was like "Ok wtf am I supposed to do now, I dont want to farm brf for months to see the same boss with 2 new abilities and more dmg/hp %". Anyway thats just how I see it ;P
VITTU SE VAA SULI :DDDD
+Peeeli this is america speak english
+aaron brooks This video was made by finnish guys
Peeeli i'm just trolling :)
***** i know bro
A true challenge indeed. This fight was tedious as hell. Blizzard did a very good job developing this one.
WTF 1440p
I've seen 2160p
You'll be able to see ragnaros's subparticles
Luis Alexander Silva-Santisteban Sierra lol that's the big difference for 720p?
dang honestly havent gotten chance to do any raids well...ever seeing as i cant actually afford the game only like every holiday nd im always behind an expansion so raid gear is usually weaker than quest gear but dang that looks like it takes forever lol exactly how long does it take to down that guy?
Did you progress on this boss when it was current content? This was a very mechanic based encounter with the addition of requiring high damage, I will probably get my head bite off for this but the game hasn't got easier, the players have got better, in vanilla people would back peddle constantly, where as now everyone knows how in-efficient it is (just an example not the basis of my argument) this boss is extremely mechanic based and was extremely difficult to progress on.
@DoomkinFidd arcane mage? Might help if you knew what mage spec is dominating and what mage spec most of the mages of that Korean guild were/are.
Love Ragnaros and he legs! It was a cool adventure in the Firelands!
This is the best WoW-video on youtube. Though it was their Nefarian-video that made me start playin WoW.
Blizzard should honor Paragon in some way. It does not have to be money. An ingame memorial of some sort considering I am one of probably thousands or tens of thousands new beginners thanks to them.
music is from Celestial Aeon Project , Two steps From hell and Imediate music ..you can see it in the left up corner
what addon do you use to dissplay the cooldowns in the buttom (warlock)
one of the last true Raids in WoW.. and I know, you can even argue over this...
And how was that, by adding twice as many bosses? Every raid has its unique bosses. But what I don't understand is do you like the raid because of it's boss fight mechanics or just because it felt epic ( and by that I mean great environment, music, lore, characters, etc.)?
Man, it just showed up on my TH-cam frontpage. Had to rewatch
How do i get my spell bars and recount so look like that one in 01:14 ? Please respond!
probably the most elaborate bosskill in WoW-history.
Were druids required for this fight for typhoon or is that just the strategy you used?
Miniscule Bug knockback and burst aoe
Miniscule Bug You can just as well use an elemental shaman for thunderstorm.
Hey I would like to know wich software for record this fight ? Fraps ?
What addons are you using in that video ?
Who's the nelf hunter? and what realm?
i'd like to check his/her armory :D
What's the name of the addon which makes the enemy's life bar like this, 03:29 ?
whats the name of the hunters addon?:o it looks nice :D