SLOWLY SINKING??? The real reasons we’re still here.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- This week we completely renovate our entire engine bay adding some amazing sound proof, fire retardant, self adhesive, foil backed foam taking it from looking awful to looking awesome!
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Great job on the engine bay Andy. Those decreases in decibels are huge in terms of the noise, being a log scale. You won’t regret that work.
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Dang, that's quite a before and after on the engine area.
What you did right: Engine room is quieter, you stopped leaks, your new lights consume much less electricity and are brighter against the silver, it's 100% cleaner, the panels are in 100% better shape.
What you did wrong: nothing!
Kudos for Melissa's stab at her new channel. As boat owners and full timers, you have a different perspective of what to look for and pros and cons a cons compared to a weekend warrior. As I always say, "Find a nitch, and build on that."
It seemed that your pre-insulation decibel reading may have been taken with the engine hatch open and post insulation was with it closed! Not to worry, the engine bay looks far better and it will definitely now be quieter than it was before.
Yes maybe a little unfair but we are still happy 😁
from a disabled vet in houston tx. i say i just love this family across the pond
Just out of curiosity, and not meant in a nasty way. What's the importance of mentioning that you're a disabled veteran?
I think it's a way of saying look how you are helping bring joy into someone's life who has a disability and been through a lot. It can bring joy into your life when you know you are bringing enjoyment into someone's life less fortunate.
@Sailingon That could be the case indeed. But per definition someone with a disability doesn't have to be less fortunate or be less joyfull in life.
Not to say I don't understand what your saying. Thanks for your kind reply.
@@junglist1 Surely you're aware that physical disability typically limits mobility and reduces earning ability. It potentially restricts the disabled person's access to many popular leisure pursuits, outdoor activities, travel etc. The sort of activities that greatly add to the quality of life, and the joys of life for an able-bodied person.
James probably mentioned his disability, because it is one of the reasons the channel may be particularly enjoyable to him. Despite his physical limitation, confinement to a wheelchair possibly, he can vicariously enjoy this family's adventurous, active lifestyle. That would be so obvious to a normally empathetic person, that your "curiosity" does have at least a hint of meanness about it.
@jaygee5693 I'm fully aware as I'm a nurse myself. I work in psychiatric care and actually have a bunch of empathy for a lot of people, I wouldn't be able to do my job without it. Before my comment, or rather question gets taken out of context and people start making assumptions like you are starting to, I'll in short try and explain.
The reason for my question is quite simple. I see a lot of comments, especially from Americans saying "a disabled veteran". There's a lot of disabled veterans in all regions of the world but I notice the Americans mention it more.
There's no pun intended or any nasty reasoning behind my question like I said.
I do however wonder how veterans are treated in America and have questions about the care they recieve that's all. That's why I asked an 'open' question without any prejudice. It's up to the person I asked the question to to elaborate or not.
Thank you for an informative video!
The insulation will retain the noise in the engine compartment. But also as you are probably aware it will retain the heat. An air extraction fan venting the engine bay will save problems down the road. Fair winds!
My boat will probably sink, hahahaha. That cracked me up. Too funny.
The boat looks more beautiful every episode.
You are both determined DIY'ers and make a brilliant team, makes watching you is entertaining but can't wait to see you sail the oceans and enjoying yourselves.
the light reflectance of the aluminum is almost as valuable as the insulation. Looks great!
Couldn't help but notice the Nissan Navara with the twin-axle trailer and boat, the chassis looks stressed, must be a yard truck, 😂 great videos 🙌🙌
Great video showed your work really well nice guitar in the back ground and you have a great result, job well done.
What a lovely video of our Deganwy Marina. Thank you for sharing this!
Thanks 🙏 we've been having such a lovely time here it's a shame to leave
Nice job Andy.
It looks so much better afterwards. Step by step you are really restoring that old boat.
I totally agree about businesses and their customer service/relations, sadly many businesses these days seems to lack these basics ~
I would put a neopreen gasket between youre motorhatch.
It works wonderful and you can open the hatch any time without fidling with hard sealent.
Keep up the good work.
All the best,
Dutch shipwright😉
Marvelous, the accompanying music is perfect. We are all wishing Melissa great success as a broker!
Good job on the engine bay looks 100% better. Could that leak have started when you ended up leaning on the dock, when the gate got blocked that would have put a lot of strain on the keel.
We think that might be the case? 🤔
@@SailingMelody
At least I kind of hope so because then the insurance will pay to repair the hole.
Best regards, luck and especially health to all of you (including the keel box!) 😁 ;-)
That engine room came out fantastic Andy, sounds like the work was well worth the while!
Hi Andy I am suggesting this as I know you like Woodwork this guy Dan is Not building a Boat he is almost single handedly building a French Chateau but I have learnt so much it is called TH-cam Return to Rural France it is really interesting he will be doing a load of plumbing at some point. I just hope you enjoy it.
Sounds really cool I'll check it out
Looks so much better Andy well done
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Good to know what to look for in a marina. A rubber gasket, like on an automobile, around the access pannel would help.
good job now you will start chasing all the little holes the sounds finds to escape. foil tape on the seams will help as well and protects the foam edges
Oh yes that’s a great idea. What’s the best foil tape to use do you know?
A good clean white floor in an engine room is something I look for! Together with those dapper looking silver insulated walls, you'll detect oil leaks (or leaks of any kind) as soon as they occur (and you look in the engine room). Looks to me like good work!
Andy the work you've done on Melody is fantastic and the engine bay is excellent and yes I realize you've more work to do. Really like the marina you're at and all the services they offer. looking forward to when Melisa comes out with her own channel. Until next video take care. Oh and congrats to your daughter and the upcoming wedding I'm sure it'll be terrific. ARRR Captain!!!!!
Nice work Andy, great progress !❤
I must say, once you get past a bit of clutter on your boat it's starting to look very nice. I really like the engine room being into engines myself and always find a clean engine and bay it always seems to run a lot better. It's good for spotting a problem quickly as well.
The clutter is slowly finding a home or being used for a project 😁
Lovely video! Looking amazing, Andy. Look forward to Melissa’s channel. 😎❤️😎❤️😎
engine bay looks realy great and tidy now well done buddy
Whow. Bit of a full on, lots happening type episode Andy. Very interesting. Definitely look forward to Melissa and her new enterprise. Noted new paint on engine compartment floor too. Much more comfortable to work in. Definitely liking the laidback Andy style. So very different from the old Paramedic, late shift, only work on days off guy that was renovating a steel hull. Loving all your hard video work too, thank you.
Make sure to keep an eye on the engine temperature. The sound insulation also insulates the heat inside the engine bay.
Great video 👍
Now the engine bay is looking nice and clean. Cable management is very neat too, there is an easy access to all parts. Perfect.
Cherry on the cake, the sound insulation is absolutely amazing. You reduced the noise by about 15dB, which is huge. You won't regret it. It's a real plus for your comfort on board.
Well done.
If things go wrong on the engine you are going to appreciate the effort you have put in. Looks a much nicer place to work.
Have you considered putting the diesel tank on a low pressure air test? It would take some effort to close off all the lines and vents, but it would be a great opportunity to locate any potential leaks inside the boat at the same time.
fantastic work and it’s too see and not hear big difference in the sound well done ❤
That engine bay is a real Cinderella transformation. What's more, it's built to last well after midnight. Nice. Ollie the pirate looks very cute. He needs to work on 'menacing'.
& the glass slipper definitely fits me!!!😊
Looking great!! Well done.
Hay Andy the engine room is looking very clean and fancy.....
Cheers mate!!!!
Run some sound deadening along the top of the engine opening on the inside so that it hangs down about 50mm into the opening, when the door / hatch is closed up against it the gap will be sealed off, thus further reducing the racket.
👋 G'day m8s👋 That Pirate Festival looked pretty kool! No eye patches, seen, nice! Nice work on the engine, you got some good m8s m8. Nice work, I'll our the new Melissa channel. In the mean time, stay vertical Eh!
10 to 14 db reduction, big accomplishment. Made the engine bay: cleaner, more waterproof, neater, quieter, brighter with the reflective silver foil, brighter still with the optional red and white lights. Out of curiosity, did you test the cockpit Sika seal, no leaks fro the outside in? Either with hose or pail or rain.
Congrats on the upcoming daughter's wedding. Hope you can find your keel diesel tank storage water ingress?
Great marina location with lots of flexible options.
Andy, you did not say paramedic ! I so admire you/anyone who can do that !
Nice job on the engine bay insulation. Quite shocked ow little difference it made to the volume of the engine noise though.
Funny the sound insulation now also works as a light reflector so you get a lot of light bouncing around in there :-) love how it all turned out, and good to see you don't rush things just to get south. The harbor guys are great, just love it when a company not just says they are good for their customers but also proof it, great job!
i think the pickup truck frame may need some help lol great channel keep up the great work
Lol, was just about to say that Nissan needs welding now 😂😂
🤣 just a bit
Thanks!
Thank you so much 😊 xx
Always enjoy your weekly adventures. 😊
Yes, noise fatigue is real. Sometimes I wonder how much jet lag is from noise.
Glad you have enough sound deadening insulation for your engine bay. That does help. May even help with vibration.
Good luck.
You may be right there, never thought of that
Noise is always the #1 complaint in data collected to measure quality of life in cities. 60db is acceptable. Above 85db begins to degrade stable attitudes.
As the owner of a 40 year old Land Rover, I don’t know what you mean … WHAT?!
Nice work on the engine bay installasion loved the marina walkabout good luck with haul out for the leak the problem with water seepage they tend to get bigger if not kept in check so hope you find the crack or whatever it is sorry about some of the spelling
Great job on the sound insulation for the motor bay. You basically cut the PERCEIVED loudness by half from its before condition. (+ or - 10 db is a doubling or a halving or PERCEIVED loudness.) That is HUGE.
Ollie steals the show
that foiled backed foam is the real deal. We sort after that for our aircraft . Any scraps? just joking.
good job mate…looks fab and you can’t argue with the dB readings!
Very nicely done on the insulation. I did mine and got similar results with a reduction of 10-15db at idle and 15-20 at cruise. It is still loud but no longer painfully so. The foam manufacturers strongly recommend putting the reflective tape over all foam edges so that it is covered on all sides to prevent the engine space fumes from reaching the foam. At the minimum it would be good to cover any exposed edge.
When you run the engine on a boat there are two sources of noise and vibration to consider: 1) the firing of the cylinders and 2) the impulses from the propeller blades. Both produce noise either from the engine directly or through transmission through the structure. Insulation and isolation are the primary methods of reduction. You can determine which (engine or propeller) is the source of noise throughout the boat by measuring governing frequencies; note sometimes this can be the second or third mode.
That’s really interesting and absolutely correct.
Over time we will identify where all the various little annoyances come from eh. Some of those sounds are just the boat talking to use. But a noisy diesel engine is not a noise I like
The most effective way to reduce noise and vibration is to sail.
When you did your before sound test, you should have done it with the panel to the engine area in place to see how loud it was in that walkway. Obviously it would be louder with the panel off, but I would have been interested in knowing how loud it was with the panel on before the insulation was installed. In any case, it is quieter than it was.
Andy, I certainly hope that surveyor is able to help you find the source of that leak so you can begin using that main diesel tank. "Learning the Lines" is the best TH-cam channel I know for boat tour/sales. I don't know if Melissa is familiar with that channel but if not, there is that.
You have to lose the aft mast and rigging and put on a solar canopy and hoist on the rear to lower your dinghy , it’s only a small yacht and you need room
That’s 100% something we are strongly considering. Our plan is to use the boat as she is for two years before we make that very radical decision though. We’re not sure so we’re investing our time and efforts into other parts of the boat before making such a huge decision. They did do two versions of this boat and the other version was a single mast with more real estate on the aft deck so it would be consistent with the design but I have a suspicion the sloop version has a taller main mast which would mean it was prohibitively expensive to replace the main mast and suite of sails for a larger single rig. But I agree up to a point it’s something we plan to research and maybe implement in a few years
I’m looking down the pipe and see not enough solar energy and putting your dinghy in the water each day and night for security reasons becoming very tedious but like you say in the future good luck cheers from Perth Australia
You mentioned issues with your cockpit drains Andy. It looks like you only have one skin fitting centrally with a fairly high T piece and a 90 degree bend just under the mouldings. Not ideal when the boat heels as you get an uphill section in the drain.
Ideally you’d have two skin fittings with a crossover ( port drain to starboard fitting and vice versa) but with the central drain try a Y fitting further down to eliminate the uphill section ???
Just a thought 🤔
Reflects the light nicely
I'm sure by now you've got that leak sorted, have you considered pressurising the tank basically the same as you would pressurise the cooling system on a vehicle, simply seal all the tank outlets introduce air pressure 15psi would do it then check around the hull for an air leak.
I could hear the difference before you even got the app running ….
Well done mate ! Got me thinking about my engine bay, big old lister which could do with some swaddling. All the best 👍
Good video Andy, next you will have an Anechoic Engine Bay. Good luck with the Lift Out.
lovely job Andy 👊🏻👏🏻
Run a strip of timber down the inside of the top panel leaving a lip for the heavy side panel to sit against. Great work, and enjoyed the pirate festival too.
Brilliant as always
I actually painted my whole boat 23’ with dulox house paint, sailed it for around 18 months in and around Plymouth and when I sold it the buyer wanted to know what paint I had used as it was still in excellent condition, that includes below the waterline 😂
Top job with the engine room.
Superb !
Do you have good ventilation in the engine bay and extra water cooler capacity. Once you get to the tropics it can be a real issue unless its significantly more than just adequate in the UK climate and cold water temperatures.
Very good point and something I will bare in mind for the future
Hi Andy, rather than making the cockpit drains larger when you might not have the recess space to do it, why don't you install more drains and manifold them together with a larger diameter drain under the cockpit floor?
Yes I will likely do something along those lines when I turn my attention to it
Marine silicone is also resistant to seawater, ordinary silicone probably does not have this resistance.
That's true, I'm a tad facetious but for this application what I've used is perfectly fine
Andy, are you telling me that putting "marine" on something means a 50% (or more) hike in the price? I'm shocked! 😉
Very nice job ! Much work as usual. LOL
Andy, I know I commented before and you were not offended. FYI, I am 63yrs old from Ireland ! your long beard is making you look much older than you are, I suggest a trim at least on your next hair cut if not before 🤣A strong chin is a thing 🤔🤣
Andy, you can’t seriously think decibels before with the door into the engine room OPEN compare usefully with decibels AFTER installation of insulation with the same door closed!
Nope, I seriously don't think that.
The other difference with the Sikaflex products is UV protection, from memory, with the marine product.
That’s much better in your enginroom👌👌
Comment about cockpit drains. Cockpit drains are invariably too small. I know Melody is centre cockpit and now has a hard dodger but even so, those drains look minuscule. Imagine taking a green one from over the side that half fills the cockpit well, it would drain but it might take a while during which time you are carrying an extra tonne of weight that alters your centre of gravity. I sail a 21' low freeboard with a stern cockpit, a wet boat is an understatement. It has a small cockpit well the size of a bath tub but even so I had to upgrade to 2 x 2" drains all through.
Funny bought carpet for my little sports car vs regular carpet because it was Marine carpet. It was like 150.00 extra. Funny how marine adds to the bill
Good episode, but the before and after sound checks? 😅 … that engine panel alone will account for +/- 10 db with it off in the before
🙈🙈 well spotted it is still a lot quieter though.
Looks like the first Db test was done with the main engine cover removed 😂😂 but entertaining as always 👍
Yes not a fair test 🙈 but still a huge difference
With the sound reading, the decibel scale is an exponential one, not linear. Therefore, a 70db reading is 2 times as loud as a 60db reading.
Your first test was door off, so your comparison is void.
Its still a great job.
True but we are happy it sounds quieter 😁
Boat is looking good! I don't know how bad the fuel is with regards to ethanol blended in but for your outboard I highly recommend non ethanol fuel at all times..
Excellent work with the engine bay noise reduction. Pity about that annoying little gap I am sure there will be a little noise increase from there.
Close that gap on the side panel and you might be able to hear a mouse fart...😉🙂
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I with be glad to sub to the Show channel.
Hello i would not use that fuel tank, why not try a fexible insert tank instead easier to repais or drain incase of contemination and if you shop around you can get one made up to fit nicely. regards Alfred
Regardless we still need to find out if it's sea water getting in. 😬
Your boat will certainly sink after using that adhesive 😉
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Have you any vents or blower blowing air in the engine bay
How can you claim on insurance for the diesel tank letting water in? Is that not just maintenance or failure. As it’s not caused by an accident like a grounding or anything. Wasn’t that leek there when you bought the boat?
Just interested as I’d love to claim on insurance for upgrades / repair / maintenance type work. 👍🤣😂
There's a lot more to it than that, I'll explain fully next episode
Are there dyes that can be used to trace leaks? The DeGanwegians have rolled out the red carpet. ❤ Best of luck with the new in-laws! Mazel tov! 🎉
I guess the most important question is will you be voting for Count Binface? 😂
You did make me laugh, the gods of “Non Marine” sealer will come to haunt you!!
Take good care happy travels
CT1 SEALANT ALL DAY LONG !
Don't know how much walkway gap you have but is there any way you could cut that panel in half and hinge it to access the engine?
I am interested in the "Selling Melody" channel or whatever it ends up being called :)
Maybe a temporary fix but I was thinking some closed cell backer rod on that engine door gap would lower sound leak.
Not sure if noticed or care, but I think you just showed everyone your pin when you unlocked the phone.
Correct, someone emailed me to tell me, I've changed it now 🤦♂️
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