Great video, my dude! I like the Jensen the best. I'm going to have to look into that more. Thanks for the tip. And yes, bass IRs would be awesome. We bass players are treated like red-headed stepchildren (looking at you, Fricker ;). By the way Kohle, the album's was released last week: th-cam.com/video/5ufPO5_M0PU/w-d-xo.html
That Jensen Punch has a lot of....punch. Love it. And now I know why I can't find/buy a replacement Ampeg speaker. Sadly I have 1 with a dented cone on my 6x10. Free IRs or $30 range? Hmm?
Warren - Please demo you Vox IR's from Lancaster. Shit, please demo your entire producer pack. I'm super curious about the winterland, Vox cabs, and the greenbacks. Trying to migrate away from V30's.
Hey, Ignazio Vagnone from Jensen Speakers here. Kristian, awesome video, dangle all the way :) cool to hear how much the Jensen Punch is coming up really nice in the mix! About the Smooth speaker, I agree it may be too "clean" for that setup. It is, as you mentioned, really thought and voiced for a different thing: the name does not refer to the "tone" but rather to the frequency response curve, that is (doh...) more linear and, yes, smoothed, while the Punch is "voiced" to a specific rock tone. The Smooth works great in modern "2-way" arrangement, where the horn comes in to take care of trebles, and the woofer top end is custom tailored tp taste by the crossover. Thanks for testing our stuff!
Hey man! Thanks for chiming in! Great to get a direct feedback from Jensen! It makes sense that the Smooth works a lot better in a true 2-way system. And I already said, it does not feel like it was voiced for metal bass tones anyway. But the important thing is how cool the Punch sounds! That thing is made for metal. 🍺❤️
Jensen speakers are mistakenly used for just blues but they hold up under high gain. Simply put, that dangle is underrated. The smooth oddly mixes with that kick drum too!
Do a 15" :) maybe after you through that and / or test 12", do a mix of 10"/12" and 15" or some interesting combo, there's bunch of fun sounds out there. Thanks for the bass videos!
New Trace Elliot is really Ashdown, which can also be found used for cheap but only get the ABM range. The real gold with TE are using the matching cabinets. The classic 410s are two sealed 210s in one cab, like the classic Ampeg design but they weigh a ton. Bass players get hit with the box of shame unless the soundman takes the DI off the back of the amp, neither normally have an IR unless using something specific like a Darkglass pedal. Outside of the studio bass speaker cabinets are mostly just big monitors as almost every soundman will take a DI
I have SWR Goliath III 8 ohm. My best friend. PAS speakers are great still now. I never want to sell it. I had SUPER REDHEAD with Goliath but power amp module was burn and nobody could not repair it. Now I have Gallien Krueger Backline 115 and I replace the speaker a Celestion Pulse 15 8 ohm. I only use them in our rehearsal room.
When played by itself I liked the Eminence best, but in the mix the Jensen really catched my attention. Great video Kohle! Waiting for more bass content like this. Prosit!
The ball venting track 😂 That Trace head is a champion!! The 4x10's they came with were also monstrous sounding. That Eminence speaker kicked. The Jensen, although not as forward sounding in the mix, was really cool too. I don't know about the Celestion though...Thanks, take care :)
These bass speaker videos are amazing! I feel like my bass sounds have not been up to my standards recently until I saw the last video where you used the SM7B on the speaker (used a md421) and horn(and beta sm57) and also a LDC (akg 414) on the other speaker. I did that technique on my last recording last week and WOW did that work good.
This is actually THE most interesting video I've ever seen on youtube about this matter. Amazing analysis! As a proud owner of that same bass head (even if I don't ever use it, it has something wrong with the transformer I guess and it always has an annoying loud buzz going on, it has to be checked by someone who knows what to do) I can't wait to experiment to get that growling sound. The goal is simple: getting that dangle even with fingers XD I know, I know, almost impossible, but that's how I play bass! Can't wait for your next video Kohle, cheers from Italy!
Thanks for this video! Gave me the comparison and insight to get the courage to change my old 1980's Fender Bassman cab speakers out (never was too happy with the sound, even though the old speakers are Eminence. But the cab came packaged with the amp I wanted). The newer Eminence BP102 made a huge difference and it now sounds better than I expected.
@@KohleAudioKult and seriously...thanks for all the effort and time you put into this! A video like this is exactly what is needed to make this kind of decision. There is no substitute for hearing it side-by-side, especially with a professional doing the audio/video. Saved me HUNDREDS of dollars getting speakers instead of a whole new cab.
Thanks man! Spread the word about my channel and share the videos! That helps. And yes. I always do professional a/b comparisons. I have watched to many bad TH-cam videos, haha!
They each sounded very resonant and each with it's own hollow (or maybe 'throaty' is more descriptive a word) signature dependent upon it's resonant placement...but less so with the Jensen 'Smooth' which had less signature resonance and more balanced across the lower mid to bass band and no growl in the low mid. They each mixed well into the music...except the Smooth, which disappeared. I use a SWR 2x10" reflex cab for yrs and love it. 2x100w drivers driven by a 1969 100w SUNN tube head...punch/clean sound/projection.
The Smooth sounded better in the mix than by itself. Sounded like the Eminence was a little more vocal and clear than the others, the Punch was a close second and had some nice overtones. The Celestion plain doesn't work for the application. Very cool video! Excellent demo as always!
THANKS YOUE KIND SIRS. My frewnds got me a OUBCH 150 wass and a Home Depot pail and I put in in ter and now I has a home made speaker cabinet and it soundesd relly good. I made a voideos, THANS YOUY FOR ALL THES EGREATE WVIDOES!!!!!!! THUMBBERS UPPSES!!
First of all I want to give a big thank you to you. And secondly Prost! You asked your listeners and viewers what they wanted to see and hear from your channel and you have definitely delivered my friend. Fuck yeah!
I'm doing to build my own bass amp some day, this is very helpful. It's going to be a Marshall superbass/Ashdown EBM sort of amalgamation in style. Hybrid head with 2 inputs, 2 channels, a 5-band graphic EQ, Sub harmonic overtone control, FX-loop, D.I output and a massive 4x15 cab with (just now decided) Celestion pulse speakers. The whole thing will get traditional Fender/Marshall styling with the twist of a red grill just to change things up
I'm using a 2x15 Mesa D4 cab. Went through 2 sets of factory speakers before switching to a pair of Eminence Speakers. I don't remember the model, as that was 10 years ago, but they sound amazing. Please do a Shootout with 15s
Love the Eminence Speaker Guitar Pack, they really improved the sound of a lot of kemper profiles. I just bought a Bass so Bass IR Packs from you would be awesome.
Have been trying to fit a lot in one cabinet in the end I had to go with two to get the "right" sound I am using. one 15" to not lose the bottom end and one 4x10" for the mid and high tones. because as a Bassist one have to move a lot of air to get the Sound/tone I´m locking for. was many years in the dream land that my equipment where just trash and needed to get more expensive gear.. but alas found freedom on sale for about 400 euros ha.. now if only I can find the right 10" speaker for my cab.... ... ...
Thanks for making this video! About five years ago, I was toying with the idea of making a bass speaker cab, and wanted to hear some sound samples of different bass speakers, but as you mentioned, nobody made a deep dive video really going over bass speaker choices. Bass IR pack sounds cool!
The Celestion is the only one i kinda didn't care for, however in the right situation it might sound great! I liked the neo a lot more than i thought i would as well.
Bass speakers aren't supposed to add colour. If you want that RIC into a Marshall stack like Lemmy.. Go for it.. I have an active tone boost on my humbucker bass. Run parallel compression with a Muff Pi off ABY and a Yorkville xm50 and a monitor/subwoofer.
I would definitely be interested in a Bass IR pack. Hard to find them for Bass and your Guitar IR's are great so I would be grabbing the Bass Pack as well for sure.
Best Channel Ever !!!!! (why ? because the info presented is to the point & without wasting time. also all of the necessary & relevant technical details are explained fully..... and finally the videos are very professionally constructed)
Thanks for doing this video, I have the celestion pulse 12 and haven't been happy with the tone for a while but I never figured it was the speaker until I heard this comparison. I swapped it out for a eminence and it sounds way better. I had done a frequency response of the celestion and what I originally thought was room modes was just the speaker. Eminence not only sounds better to my ears but it's backed by a much more even response (so much so I actually question if the celestion was a dud somehow)
Great video. As a guitar player, we need good metal bass IR’s. A lot of us guitar players have a bass as well to put a track down. And it’s so hard to get dangle. You. Are that dangle provider. Where’d I sign up?
I like the Eminence and the Pulse 10, the best ones for me. But in the mix, the Eminence just nailed it. There's dängle and there's low end in the perfect amount Thanks for the video, Kohle!
I liked all of the speakers except the smooth. I think that the Celestion has potential. Maybe it needs some tweaking of the amp, and the other two sounded fucking phenomenal!!! I would aboslutely love a bass IR pack. Also, since you're interested in going off the beaten path, have you ever thought about playing around with "exotic" microphones? I'm not saying like $6,000 mics or anything, but every IR pack I have is 421, sm57, Royer 121, etc. Who knows it might be cool...
Thanks first of all. Well, those microphones all work on guitars because they have a great midrange. I'm a huge fan of the 57. The most "generic" mic ever, but Hey! It just sounds great. But there are a few sleepers. Maybe you have seen that sE RNT a few times in my videos? But that's not really important in the end. I always try to come up with names for IRs that describe the sound. I'll rather name an IR: "Ballsy Supergrind" instead of: "V30 57 of axis, 121 on axis 50/50". you know!
@@KohleAudioKult Thanks for the fast reply. You know what my problem is? I use my eyes instead of my ears, haha. I like the idea of a descriptive name vs a literal name. By the way, the eminence pack is great. It is right on par with all of my high quality favorites.
Testing 12" bass speakers would be cool. The Celestion BN12-300S is not only a nice bass speaker, but it actually works great as a guitar speaker, too. Double the fun!
@@KohleAudioKult Trying to summarise it: I can't reach out my bass right now, I got the speaker just 2 weeks ago, I tested it with a guitar on a 1x12 at low volume in my tiny 1-room apartment and I plan to get materials to build a properly-sized bass cab when non-essential stores are reopened :D All sizes in this speaker series have some dangle to my ears, but weirdly enough I only heard the 12" being tested on guitar cabs.
Thanks for the video. I have the same TC cab and was thinking of changing it. I think the tone issue is from my class D amp (Aguilar Tonehammer) and I should get a more powerful classic head, like a Trace Elliot!
Eminence sounds very nicely balanced on clean, while the Jensen (Punch) works great with distortion. Celestion would be better mixed with another speaker than the horn, it just doesn't do it by itself. Kinda the anti-neodym Jensen, wonder how they'd work together? But why choose the Celestion when there's Eminence and Jensen (Punch) that deliver it right away in one package. If I made a choice, I'd probably try and get the Eminence for cleans and Jensen Punch for distortion. With this amp and these settings that is... What a swamp of components to combine. But I'd love to hear Celestion and neodym Jensen mixed together. In the mix clips didn't change much. Eminence and Jensen Punch are still pleasant, you just relax because it sounds right. Celestion improves in the mix, just a different sound. A bit more "hollow" sounding and less of that buzz in the high frequencies obviously, but it's not to say that's bad, more of a taste thing. The neodym Jensen however still sounds awful and just plain wrong. I hear Shandy/Radler/whatever you want to call it, is big in Germany (and perhaps UK?). Drinking beer with soda like Cola, Sprite or Fanta.
I've had a custom cab made by Cathedral Cabinets loaded with 6x Celestion Pulse 10 and 2x Celestion Pulse 12. I feel like when you're hearing the speakers in solo that the Eminence sounds the most sexy and that the Celestion sounds a bit boring, but in context that Celestion sounds a lot more useful to me because its mids are voiced a bit lower, where you would want to scoop the guitars a bit anyways. Also, I play in an HM-2 style band where the 1-1,5kHz is oversaturated by the guitars by default so it makes sense to go with something that is more present around 700-900Hz. Great video btw and definitely check out the Pulse 12's, that low end is unmatched!
Well, I guess the Jensen/eminece work better if you wanna dängle through a mix. If you just care about a great lowend and leave the midgrind to the guitarplayers, the Celestion will do great.
I just got one Jensen punch 12 Zoll for my practice amp..a .caliber 50 ftom Mesa...great sound..bass sound out of a guitar amp ...why not, it works well !!!!! ;)
The eminence sounds best so far, more balanced, has a bit more bottom than the jensen punch. It sounds almost perfect. I never liked the neo cab I played, I think they sound thin and weird in the mids and high mids, and lack bottom. ( That might the cab construction material as well, but they were ampeg cabs.) My favorite cab ever is the svt610 hlf, classic series, these ampeg cabs have something, quite a punch in the low mids. I really loved the eden 4x10 I have played, too, they are awesome. But don't ask me what speakers are in these cabs!
I'm in the process of doing bass impulse responses. I need to get a flat power amp before releasing anything to the public. But running my Darkglass X Ultra into my daw with some IRs of my Mesa M9 Carbine into my Mesa 410 cab and it's absolutely beautiful. I'm gonna do some mic mixes and my Mesa 115 and hopefully I can get a decent Mesa full stack 410+115 IR pack.
Super comparison! I had JUST ordered a Jensen Punch 8" speaker for putting in a little Ampeg. Then came upon your excellent work. Thankfully I really like the Punch in your demo, as you do, and immediately disliked the "Smooth". Hardly smooth.. Maybe "Crash" would be a more apt title. Thank you!
Daaaaaamn!!! That sounded so good! But try the 12" bass speakers. They are nicely in the middle between a 10 and a 15 inch speaker. You get more woof and they are still more responsive than the 15". You get the clank over the horn anyways!
@@KohleAudioKult the Neodymium speakers are made at g&k as far as I know. But I don't know for sure. At least they posted a new video about their new neo cab line. Maybe there is some imformation.
A bass IR pack would be very buyable for me. i have a small collection of guitar amps and cabinets, but no dedicated bass amps or speakers. :( I don't do much guitar amp sim stuff, except as backup or blends, but bass i generally start with a DI and do what's necessary (or what time allows to try) from there. Definitely use infinitely more bass amp sims and plugins than guitar amp sims! Anyone else like that?
Ir pack would be awesome. Never enough bass irs out there!. For me I am with you the eminence and the Jensen punch are my favorites the celestion is a good sounding speaker if you don't want to Klank it out. But the Jensen smooth for me is anything but
Hell yeah! Would love to see some 12 inch in the future. I use a 1980 Music Man 412-B but it has Ashdown 12 inch speakers in it. I love the way bass sounds through 12s.
I have that ampeg 4x10 hlf (which is fucking huge sound) for me it's even betther than 8x10 for many reassons, smaller and east to transport with wheels, haves a tweeter with adjustable high level and a 3 way via subwoofer that goes down to a response of -10db at 28hz!!! with an ampeg pf500 which simulates svt tube heads... really did an awesome buy because that rig new costs about 1100 euros and I buy used at 600 (and the person who had it didn't even use it in concerts)
Yes, I’d prefer an Ampeg 410 too. Enough speaker mass and the additional horn really helps
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Awesome!! I really love videos about other things than guitars ^^ It is good too see that you mic the tweeter and the back/Bassport, that is soooo important i do that too :)
I think that in the mix (which ultimately is the only thing that matters), the jensen punch and (surprisingly) the celestion sounds best. The eminence is also good, but I prefer the punch to it. I am now thinking about a custom 2x10 with a celestion and a jensen punch 🤣
If you like the jangle, get an "inspired by Gibson" Epi Thunderbird. A very good recreation of early 60's Thunderbird, it clanks, prominent growl and ass to match. Plus it's pretty. It will do what you want.
@@KohleAudioKult, Super slim neck, yes it has the neck dive, but that particular model is very nice. It's he only bass in any of the Gibson or Epi lines to have that pick up. The Epi Embassy they made a few years ago used that same pickup. They are very good.
I LOVE the Eminence speaker sound!!!! Thanks for share this comparation. I Will put it on my 2x12 some day!!! I want to know, if possible, do you know what frecuency is configured for crossover between speakers and tweeter in your cab? Thanks again for the video!! 🤘🤘
Hey man! What a great video. The Eminence Legend was the best sounding speaker! It would be really nice if you would do the same type of video with 12 inch speakers also!
That Jensen Punch is fire! 💪🏻 I'd have 2 suggestions for the next video: the FANE sovereign 10-300 and the Turbosound TS-10W300/8A (a budget speaker which i find would be interesting).Hail Dängle! 🤘🏻
@@KohleAudioKult The Fane is probably a Bass Speaker - at least i have an old Laney 30W Combo Bassamp with an 8 inch Fane Speaker in it. About the Turbosound - i'm not so sure, i know Turbosound only from their PA-Systems - but that thing is cheap and maybe worth a try 🤷🏼♂️ Both speakers are available at the big T
Oh, the Fane is really a bass speaker: www.fane-international.com/view-product/SOVEREIGN-10-300 and the Turbosound is indeed a PA speaker: www.turbosound.com/product.html?modelCode=P0E4N but worth a try nonetheless at a whopping 59€ 😉
I recently picked up a mid 80s marshall 4x10 that sounds brittle and bad that I would like to be able to use as a lightweight portable alternative to a 4x12 for local shows. What 4, 10 inch speakers could do the job? Asking for guitar not bass. I love this channel! thanks
I like the punch speaker. Give those bass DI's to me. By the way, could you review the plug-in Parallax by Neutral DSP? I have that one and it sounds good by itself but I don't love it in the mix. Prost 🍺
Who else bought the Mammoth because of this guy? Kohlekeller Studio - Looking to downsize my cabinet. Currently 6x10 Classic by Ampeg. Do you think a 2x10 will have enough muscle on stage? (small club size ie Whiskey size places). Lot of options, not sure if I should go 4x10 or 2x10. I play death metal. I use the SVT3-Pro amp.
I played two tours helping out on bass for 8Kids in 2018. On the tour with smaller venues I just had my Ampeg 2x10" with me and that sounded great! "Room filling" enough. A 8x10 will be more impressive sounding for sure, but it's not needed.
@@KohleAudioKult Good to hear. At 45, I'm kinda tired of lugging around a 6x10. Thanks for the input Kristian. Now do I go custom cab with those Jensen Punches? I'm gonna go do some pricing. \m/
Which one is YOUR favorite and why?
Who needs some bass IRs?
I liked the Punch most
I definitely need some bass IR's ! Guitar IRs are very welcome too !
Great video, my dude! I like the Jensen the best. I'm going to have to look into that more. Thanks for the tip. And yes, bass IRs would be awesome. We bass players are treated like red-headed stepchildren (looking at you, Fricker ;).
By the way Kohle, the album's was released last week: th-cam.com/video/5ufPO5_M0PU/w-d-xo.html
That Jensen Punch has a lot of....punch. Love it. And now I know why I can't find/buy a replacement Ampeg speaker. Sadly I have 1 with a dented cone on my 6x10. Free IRs or $30 range? Hmm?
Der Punch und BP102 klingen echt gut. Der Smooth ist sehr quarkig und anstrengend.
Bei IRs bin ich dabei und verkaufe meine Seele an den Teufel 😅
YES! No one has dared talk Bass Speakers before! Great video Kristian!
Hi Warren, hope all is well. :)
@@peehandshihtzu marvellous thank you!
Warren - Please demo you Vox IR's from Lancaster. Shit, please demo your entire producer pack. I'm super curious about the winterland, Vox cabs, and the greenbacks. Trying to migrate away from V30's.
Hey, Ignazio Vagnone from Jensen Speakers here.
Kristian, awesome video, dangle all the way :) cool to hear how much the Jensen Punch is coming up really nice in the mix!
About the Smooth speaker, I agree it may be too "clean" for that setup. It is, as you mentioned, really thought and voiced for a different thing: the name does not refer to the "tone" but rather to the frequency response curve, that is (doh...) more linear and, yes, smoothed, while the Punch is "voiced" to a specific rock tone. The Smooth works great in modern "2-way" arrangement, where the horn comes in to take care of trebles, and the woofer top end is custom tailored tp taste by the crossover.
Thanks for testing our stuff!
Hey man! Thanks for chiming in!
Great to get a direct feedback from Jensen!
It makes sense that the Smooth works a lot better in a true 2-way system. And I already said, it does not feel like it was voiced for metal bass tones anyway.
But the important thing is how cool the Punch sounds! That thing is made for metal. 🍺❤️
Jensen speakers are mistakenly used for just blues but they hold up under high gain. Simply put, that dangle is underrated. The smooth oddly mixes with that kick drum too!
Oh yeah. Jensen should get more attention in the metal and dängle world.
"I'm usually naked and I drink beer..." Wait, what??? Did I miss something?! 😂
Also, the idea of bass IR pack sounds great... Hail dängle! 🤘
Do a 15" :) maybe after you through that and / or test 12", do a mix of 10"/12" and 15" or some interesting combo, there's bunch of fun sounds out there. Thanks for the bass videos!
Thanks. I’m here for the fun. It’s more a matter of having the right cabs available. But im sure I’ll find a way!
Yes, 12's please!
New Trace Elliot is really Ashdown, which can also be found used for cheap but only get the ABM range.
The real gold with TE are using the matching cabinets. The classic 410s are two sealed 210s in one cab, like the classic Ampeg design but they weigh a ton.
Bass players get hit with the box of shame unless the soundman takes the DI off the back of the amp, neither normally have an IR unless using something specific like a Darkglass pedal.
Outside of the studio bass speaker cabinets are mostly just big monitors as almost every soundman will take a DI
sad but true
Dude watching a new video from you is always like wearing a cozy blanket.....
made of f*cking heavy metal.
Poetic! Haha! Thanks!
Do what ever SWR used in their 90's cabs like the 6x10. Those cabs were incredible.
Oh yeah, I remember tracking their Henry 8th cab and it sounded fantastic.
They were Eminance but I don't believe they are available new anymore. And I believe they were the same speakers that Eden and Mesa used at the time.
I have SWR Goliath III 8 ohm. My best friend. PAS speakers are great still now. I never want to sell it. I had SUPER REDHEAD with Goliath but power amp module was burn and nobody could not repair it. Now I have Gallien Krueger Backline 115 and I replace the speaker a Celestion Pulse 15 8 ohm. I only use them in our rehearsal room.
When played by itself I liked the Eminence best, but in the mix the Jensen really catched my attention. Great video Kohle! Waiting for more bass content like this. Prosit!
Thanks! And yes, in a mix you often need more Dängle than you think! That's why the Jensen shines there.
When is the next video coming? I'd be really interested to see how the darkglass cabinets sound compared to your ampeg and tc cabs
I hope I'm not the only one that liked the Jensen Smooth, that sounded the best to me the moment you played the first riffs on it.
That Jensen Punch speaker was my favorite of them. I preferred it's mid range response.
I'm impressed how different the eminence and the celestion sound.
The ball venting track 😂 That Trace head is a champion!! The 4x10's they came with were also monstrous sounding. That Eminence speaker kicked. The Jensen, although not as forward sounding in the mix, was really cool too. I don't know about the Celestion though...Thanks, take care :)
These bass speaker videos are amazing! I feel like my bass sounds have not been up to my standards recently until I saw the last video where you used the SM7B on the speaker (used a md421) and horn(and beta sm57) and also a LDC (akg 414) on the other speaker. I did that technique on my last recording last week and WOW did that work good.
There you go!
Recording bass cabs is complex.
This time a I liked the holes in the back
Bass IRs are very welcome.
Dude you are doing good job
This is actually THE most interesting video I've ever seen on youtube about this matter. Amazing analysis! As a proud owner of that same bass head (even if I don't ever use it, it has something wrong with the transformer I guess and it always has an annoying loud buzz going on, it has to be checked by someone who knows what to do) I can't wait to experiment to get that growling sound. The goal is simple: getting that dangle even with fingers XD I know, I know, almost impossible, but that's how I play bass! Can't wait for your next video Kohle, cheers from Italy!
Thanks man! Time to get your TE repaired, dude!
Thanks for this video! Gave me the comparison and insight to get the courage to change my old 1980's Fender Bassman cab speakers out (never was too happy with the sound, even though the old speakers are Eminence. But the cab came packaged with the amp I wanted). The newer Eminence BP102 made a huge difference and it now sounds better than I expected.
Wow! Great to hear that!
@@KohleAudioKult and seriously...thanks for all the effort and time you put into this! A video like this is exactly what is needed to make this kind of decision. There is no substitute for hearing it side-by-side, especially with a professional doing the audio/video. Saved me HUNDREDS of dollars getting speakers instead of a whole new cab.
Thanks man!
Spread the word about my channel and share the videos! That helps.
And yes. I always do professional a/b comparisons. I have watched to many bad TH-cam videos, haha!
They each sounded very resonant and each with it's own hollow (or maybe 'throaty' is more descriptive a word) signature dependent upon it's resonant placement...but less so with the Jensen 'Smooth' which had less signature resonance and more balanced across the lower mid to bass band and no growl in the low mid.
They each mixed well into the music...except the Smooth, which disappeared.
I use a SWR 2x10" reflex cab for yrs and love it. 2x100w drivers driven by a 1969 100w SUNN tube head...punch/clean sound/projection.
The Smooth sounded better in the mix than by itself. Sounded like the Eminence was a little more vocal and clear than the others, the Punch was a close second and had some nice overtones. The Celestion plain doesn't work for the application.
Very cool video! Excellent demo as always!
Thanks. Good description!
@@KohleAudioKult Thank you.... No you had a good description! It was your video dude 😜
Very interested for the next one 🤘
The Jensen Punch sounds greeeeaat !
Bien sur!
I have never thought about bass speakers since I got the Ampeg 8x10.
YES IT'S DANGLE TIME AGAIN!
LETS GOOO
THANKS YOUE KIND SIRS. My frewnds got me a OUBCH 150 wass and a Home Depot pail and I put in in ter and now I has a home made speaker cabinet and it soundesd relly good. I made a voideos, THANS YOUY FOR ALL THES EGREATE WVIDOES!!!!!!! THUMBBERS UPPSES!!
First of all I want to give a big thank you to you. And secondly Prost! You asked your listeners and viewers what they wanted to see and hear from your channel and you have definitely delivered my friend. Fuck yeah!
I'm doing to build my own bass amp some day, this is very helpful.
It's going to be a Marshall superbass/Ashdown EBM sort of amalgamation in style. Hybrid head with 2 inputs, 2 channels, a 5-band graphic EQ, Sub harmonic overtone control, FX-loop, D.I output and a massive 4x15 cab with (just now decided) Celestion pulse speakers. The whole thing will get traditional Fender/Marshall styling with the twist of a red grill just to change things up
I'm using a 2x15 Mesa D4 cab. Went through 2 sets of factory speakers before switching to a pair of Eminence Speakers. I don't remember the model, as that was 10 years ago, but they sound amazing. Please do a Shootout with 15s
Love the Eminence Speaker Guitar Pack, they really improved the sound of a lot of kemper profiles. I just bought a Bass so Bass IR Packs from you would be awesome.
Have been trying to fit a lot in one cabinet in the end I had to go with two to get the "right" sound I am using. one 15" to not lose the bottom end and one 4x10" for the mid and high tones. because as a Bassist one have to move a lot of air to get the Sound/tone I´m locking for.
was many years in the dream land that my equipment where just trash and needed to get more expensive gear.. but alas found freedom on sale for about 400 euros ha.. now if only I can find the right 10" speaker for my cab.... ... ...
Thanks for making this video! About five years ago, I was toying with the idea of making a bass speaker cab, and wanted to hear some sound samples of different bass speakers, but as you mentioned, nobody made a deep dive video really going over bass speaker choices. Bass IR pack sounds cool!
The Celestion is the only one i kinda didn't care for, however in the right situation it might sound great! I liked the neo a lot more than i thought i would as well.
Goofy comments aside, fantastic video on a subject not touched on often. Super helpful.
Things that dangle like to be touched upon.
By the way, I've been enjoying your channel's content as well
Keep up the good work.
Bass speakers aren't supposed to add colour. If you want that RIC into a Marshall stack like Lemmy.. Go for it..
I have an active tone boost on my humbucker bass. Run parallel compression with a Muff Pi off ABY and a Yorkville xm50 and a monitor/subwoofer.
I would definitely be interested in a Bass IR pack. Hard to find them for Bass and your Guitar IR's are great so I would be grabbing the Bass Pack as well for sure.
Best Channel Ever !!!!! (why ? because the info presented is to the point & without wasting time. also all of the necessary & relevant technical details are explained fully..... and finally the videos are very professionally constructed)
The legend just works in the mix, that does it for me
Eminence legend BP102 is amazing!
Thanks for doing this video, I have the celestion pulse 12 and haven't been happy with the tone for a while but I never figured it was the speaker until I heard this comparison. I swapped it out for a eminence and it sounds way better. I had done a frequency response of the celestion and what I originally thought was room modes was just the speaker. Eminence not only sounds better to my ears but it's backed by a much more even response (so much so I actually question if the celestion was a dud somehow)
I'm glad I've found this video! I'm currently contemplating the changing of my bass amp speaker... ;)
Great video. As a guitar player, we need good metal bass IR’s. A lot of us guitar players have a bass as well to put a track down. And it’s so hard to get dangle. You. Are that dangle provider. Where’d I sign up?
Love the beer with Kohle content!
Also very cool to see all these experiments with speakers etc
I like the Eminence and the Pulse 10, the best ones for me.
But in the mix, the Eminence just nailed it. There's dängle and there's low end in the perfect amount
Thanks for the video, Kohle!
You play your instruments so well it's so awesome to watch you play.
Keep it metal brother, 2021 is all yours my bro 🤘😝
I want part 2! Now i know what speaker to buy for my 8x10!
Really In Flames sounding jam session at the beginning. Love it. They're my favorite band
I liked all of the speakers except the smooth. I think that the Celestion has potential. Maybe it needs some tweaking of the amp, and the other two sounded fucking phenomenal!!! I would aboslutely love a bass IR pack. Also, since you're interested in going off the beaten path, have you ever thought about playing around with "exotic" microphones? I'm not saying like $6,000 mics or anything, but every IR pack I have is 421, sm57, Royer 121, etc. Who knows it might be cool...
Thanks first of all.
Well, those microphones all work on guitars because they have a great midrange.
I'm a huge fan of the 57. The most "generic" mic ever, but Hey! It just sounds great.
But there are a few sleepers. Maybe you have seen that sE RNT a few times in my videos?
But that's not really important in the end.
I always try to come up with names for IRs that describe the sound.
I'll rather name an IR: "Ballsy Supergrind" instead of: "V30 57 of axis, 121 on axis 50/50". you know!
@@KohleAudioKult Thanks for the fast reply. You know what my problem is? I use my eyes instead of my ears, haha. I like the idea of a descriptive name vs a literal name. By the way, the eminence pack is great. It is right on par with all of my high quality favorites.
Gotta love the piano tone.
Testing 12" bass speakers would be cool. The Celestion BN12-300S is not only a nice bass speaker, but it actually works great as a guitar speaker, too. Double the fun!
12“ would be interesting, yes!
Are you using it in a guitar cab?
@@KohleAudioKult Trying to summarise it: I can't reach out my bass right now, I got the speaker just 2 weeks ago, I tested it with a guitar on a 1x12 at low volume in my tiny 1-room apartment and I plan to get materials to build a properly-sized bass cab when non-essential stores are reopened :D
All sizes in this speaker series have some dangle to my ears, but weirdly enough I only heard the 12" being tested on guitar cabs.
We need more bass speakers IR's. Please, do your magic.
Thanks for the video. I have the same TC cab and was thinking of changing it. I think the tone issue is from my class D amp (Aguilar Tonehammer) and I should get a more powerful classic head, like a Trace Elliot!
Great video, as usual! I am astonished there are so few good videos about bass guitar speakers on youtube. Keep 'em coming! Hälsningar från Sverige.
Hey buddy, are you playing to do the 2nd follow-up video to this one? I'd be interested to see if there are other 10" speakers out there for metal.
At some point, right now I’m busy preparing my academy!
Eminence sounds very nicely balanced on clean, while the Jensen (Punch) works great with distortion. Celestion would be better mixed with another speaker than the horn, it just doesn't do it by itself. Kinda the anti-neodym Jensen, wonder how they'd work together? But why choose the Celestion when there's Eminence and Jensen (Punch) that deliver it right away in one package. If I made a choice, I'd probably try and get the Eminence for cleans and Jensen Punch for distortion. With this amp and these settings that is... What a swamp of components to combine. But I'd love to hear Celestion and neodym Jensen mixed together.
In the mix clips didn't change much. Eminence and Jensen Punch are still pleasant, you just relax because it sounds right. Celestion improves in the mix, just a different sound. A bit more "hollow" sounding and less of that buzz in the high frequencies obviously, but it's not to say that's bad, more of a taste thing. The neodym Jensen however still sounds awful and just plain wrong.
I hear Shandy/Radler/whatever you want to call it, is big in Germany (and perhaps UK?). Drinking beer with soda like Cola, Sprite or Fanta.
Good analysis. I agree 100%.
And yes, people like "Radler" over here.
I personally hate watering down my beer with any kind of soda!
@@KohleAudioKult beer as beer! Looking forward to more of these videos, you do a good job presenting speakers and how to make them work.
Great as expected! My favourite is the Eminence speaker by far! Waiting for the Bass Ir Pack!
I've had a custom cab made by Cathedral Cabinets loaded with 6x Celestion Pulse 10 and 2x Celestion Pulse 12.
I feel like when you're hearing the speakers in solo that the Eminence sounds the most sexy and that the Celestion sounds a bit boring, but in context that Celestion sounds a lot more useful to me because its mids are voiced a bit lower, where you would want to scoop the guitars a bit anyways.
Also, I play in an HM-2 style band where the 1-1,5kHz is oversaturated by the guitars by default so it makes sense to go with something that is more present around 700-900Hz.
Great video btw and definitely check out the Pulse 12's, that low end is unmatched!
Well, I guess the Jensen/eminece work better if you wanna dängle through a mix.
If you just care about a great lowend and leave the midgrind to the guitarplayers, the Celestion will do great.
I just got one Jensen punch 12 Zoll for my practice amp..a .caliber 50 ftom Mesa...great sound..bass sound out of a guitar amp ...why not, it works well !!!!! ;)
The eminence sounds best so far, more balanced, has a bit more bottom than the jensen punch. It sounds almost perfect.
I never liked the neo cab I played, I think they sound thin and weird in the mids and high mids, and lack bottom. ( That might the cab construction material as well, but they were ampeg cabs.)
My favorite cab ever is the svt610 hlf, classic series, these ampeg cabs have something, quite a punch in the low mids.
I really loved the eden 4x10 I have played, too, they are awesome. But don't ask me what speakers are in these cabs!
One of the most informative and entertaining channels on TH-cam
Thanks man! Spread the word. More people should know!
Would you make a video about monitoring? The studio monitors, room treatment etc.
Just had an idea about room acoustics today. So yeah! Sooner or later.
I'm in the process of doing bass impulse responses. I need to get a flat power amp before releasing anything to the public. But running my Darkglass X Ultra into my daw with some IRs of my Mesa M9 Carbine into my Mesa 410 cab and it's absolutely beautiful. I'm gonna do some mic mixes and my Mesa 115 and hopefully I can get a decent Mesa full stack 410+115 IR pack.
The bass player from Overkill, DD Verni used old ADA equipment at one point. Im not sure what he uses now though.
Man the Jenson Punch sounds great and cuts trough the mix the best Imo.
I felt the same way, even though the Eminence one seems to sound better by itself.
Awesome video! The Eminence and Punch are freakin' nice.
Super comparison! I had JUST ordered a Jensen Punch 8" speaker for putting in a little Ampeg. Then came upon your excellent work. Thankfully I really like the Punch in your demo, as you do, and immediately disliked the "Smooth". Hardly smooth.. Maybe "Crash" would be a more apt title. Thank you!
That was a very interesting comparison. Thank you, and God bless you!
Daaaaaamn!!! That sounded so good! But try the 12" bass speakers. They are nicely in the middle between a 10 and a 15 inch speaker. You get more woof and they are still more responsive than the 15". You get the clank over the horn anyways!
The Gallien&Krueger Neo 12" speakers would be very interesting. Should technically be the sweetspot between a 10" and a 15" woofer.
noted! Are they making their own speakers?
Most of those speakers is OEM stuff from Jensen or Eminence anyway,.
@@KohleAudioKult the Neodymium speakers are made at g&k as far as I know. But I don't know for sure. At least they posted a new video about their new neo cab line. Maybe there is some imformation.
Far away from Ampeg? YEEEEEESS!!!!!! Far, Far, away. As far as you can get ... run.
AMPEG IS BOUGHT BY YAMAHHA...YEEEEEECH!
A bass IR pack would be very buyable for me. i have a small collection of guitar amps and cabinets, but no dedicated bass amps or speakers. :( I don't do much guitar amp sim stuff, except as backup or blends, but bass i generally start with a DI and do what's necessary (or what time allows to try) from there. Definitely use infinitely more bass amp sims and plugins than guitar amp sims! Anyone else like that?
Thank you so much. I almost bought a Pulse. Definitely not what I'm looking for.
Ir pack would be awesome. Never enough bass irs out there!. For me I am with you the eminence and the Jensen punch are my favorites the celestion is a good sounding speaker if you don't want to Klank it out. But the Jensen smooth for me is anything but
I just released a pack with Orange and Eminence. Here is the video:
th-cam.com/video/8_frCffhJ7Q/w-d-xo.html
Hell yeah! Would love to see some 12 inch in the future. I use a 1980 Music Man 412-B but it has Ashdown 12 inch speakers in it. I love the way bass sounds through 12s.
Looks like a lot of people wanna hear 12“s
I have that ampeg 4x10 hlf (which is fucking huge sound) for me it's even betther than 8x10 for many reassons, smaller and east to transport with wheels, haves a tweeter with adjustable high level and a 3 way via subwoofer that goes down to a response of -10db at 28hz!!!
with an ampeg pf500 which simulates svt tube heads... really did an awesome buy because that rig new costs about 1100 euros and I buy used at 600 (and the person who had it didn't even use it in concerts)
Yes, I’d prefer an Ampeg 410 too.
Enough speaker mass and the additional horn really helps
Awesome!! I really love videos about other things than guitars ^^ It is good too see that you mic the tweeter and the back/Bassport, that is soooo important i do that too :)
Ir bass would be awesone. I would absolutely paid for that
I think that in the mix (which ultimately is the only thing that matters), the jensen punch and (surprisingly) the celestion sounds best. The eminence is also good, but I prefer the punch to it. I am now thinking about a custom 2x10 with a celestion and a jensen punch 🤣
Thanks for tat great video very helpfull in the making choice process ! Maybe a demo with the Emminence kappa pro 10 and the Webber 10 FL !
If you like the jangle, get an "inspired by Gibson" Epi Thunderbird. A very good recreation of early 60's Thunderbird, it clanks, prominent growl and ass to match. Plus it's pretty. It will do what you want.
Thanks! Never tried one. Maybe I should.
@@KohleAudioKult, Super slim neck, yes it has the neck dive, but that particular model is very nice. It's he only bass in any of the Gibson or Epi lines to have that pick up. The Epi Embassy they made a few years ago used that same pickup. They are very good.
The Jensen punch was my fave. It sounded ever so slightly more scooped in the upper mids compared to the legend.
10 inch vs 15 inch speakers, love to see the end of this great debate. Love the content! Cheers!
I just don't have a cab for 15" speakers right now. But it's on the list!
This channel is way to good!
Please, debunk the myth about speaker damage when using bass cabinets with guitar and vice-versa.
Noted! Thanks
That Trace Elliot amp was often paired with 10” Celestions from the factory.
Man I forget how great a guitarist/bassit kristian is! INSANE!!!
Yes. Do 12” speakers too!
I’ve played 12s and 10s forever and they are really different.
Ok. Which ones do you recommend?
I LOVE the Eminence speaker sound!!!! Thanks for share this comparation. I Will put it on my 2x12 some day!!!
I want to know, if possible, do you know what frecuency is configured for crossover between speakers and tweeter in your cab?
Thanks again for the video!! 🤘🤘
oooh definitely do 12" and 15", the best bass tone i ever got was from a 12" swr cab
Those SWR cabs are great. I need to check what’s in there.
Hey man! What a great video. The Eminence Legend was the best sounding speaker!
It would be really nice if you would do the same type of video with 12 inch speakers also!
Great vid! Eminence is the winner for me! You can literally whistle along to the Jensen smooth high mid peak! hahaha! Awesome! Thanks!
I would like to hear you play through a 10" Hartke aluminum cone speaker. I bet those would give you some good dängle...
That Jensen Punch is fire! 💪🏻 I'd have 2 suggestions for the next video: the FANE sovereign 10-300 and the Turbosound TS-10W300/8A (a budget speaker which i find would be interesting).Hail Dängle! 🤘🏻
Those are both bass speakers I assume?
Didn’t even know Fane were doing bass speakers. Or are those PA speakers?
@@KohleAudioKult The Fane is probably a Bass Speaker - at least i have an old Laney 30W Combo Bassamp with an 8 inch Fane Speaker in it. About the Turbosound - i'm not so sure, i know Turbosound only from their PA-Systems - but that thing is cheap and maybe worth a try 🤷🏼♂️ Both speakers are available at the big T
Oh, the Fane is really a bass speaker: www.fane-international.com/view-product/SOVEREIGN-10-300 and the Turbosound is indeed a PA speaker: www.turbosound.com/product.html?modelCode=P0E4N but worth a try nonetheless at a whopping 59€ 😉
Love the BP102, looking forward for the IRs!
I recently picked up a mid 80s marshall 4x10 that sounds brittle and bad that I would like to be able to use as a lightweight portable alternative to a 4x12 for local shows. What 4, 10 inch speakers could do the job? Asking for guitar not bass. I love this channel! thanks
Great job as always, Kristian! Also, my granny loves you now!
🍺❤️😜
I like the punch speaker. Give those bass DI's to me. By the way, could you review the plug-in Parallax by Neutral DSP? I have that one and it sounds good by itself but I don't love it in the mix. Prost 🍺
thanks for this great video :) PLEASE do more bass related videos. dein content ist der wahnsinn!!!
Danke!
Ist schon das vierte oder fünfte Bassvideo. Ich muss eher mal wieder Drums machen!
Such a great channel. Keep killing it!
Who else bought the Mammoth because of this guy?
Kohlekeller Studio - Looking to downsize my cabinet. Currently 6x10 Classic by Ampeg. Do you think a 2x10 will have enough muscle on stage? (small club size ie Whiskey size places). Lot of options, not sure if I should go 4x10 or 2x10. I play death metal. I use the SVT3-Pro amp.
I played two tours helping out on bass for 8Kids in 2018. On the tour with smaller venues I just had my Ampeg 2x10" with me and that sounded great! "Room filling" enough. A 8x10 will be more impressive sounding for sure, but it's not needed.
@@KohleAudioKult Good to hear. At 45, I'm kinda tired of lugging around a 6x10. Thanks for the input Kristian. Now do I go custom cab with those Jensen Punches? I'm gonna go do some pricing. \m/
great vid! wouldnt mind if you do 15 inch speakers as well
Yeah the tone is great. But man, THAT BASS PLAYING is really good!!!!