The Latest Angle Grinders from Milwaukee, Hart & Makita Dyno'd v Harbor Freight

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    Today we test the Latest models in 4.5-5" cordless angle grinders from Milwaukee in their 2888-20, Makita XAG16Z, and Hart Brushless HPAG25 vs the Harbor Freight Hercules Cordless Angle Grinder.
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    As always, the creator of this channel works in product development for Astro Tools, who also make grinders (air). Always consider multiple sources when looking as a tool!

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  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Worry not, more brands currently on order and more to come still. When we build a new dyno it's always going to seem early on like we're leaving your favorite brand out until we buy it :)

    • @_AndromedaGalaxy_
      @_AndromedaGalaxy_ ปีที่แล้ว

      dont think you ever tested the Earthquake 3/4" cordless impact from harbor freight.

    • @stauker.1960
      @stauker.1960 ปีที่แล้ว

      You did it. You absolute madlads, I love you

    • @davislinkcarrillo-mm3qj
      @davislinkcarrillo-mm3qj ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mind checking out the new Ridgid brushless? It’s also on sale rn at home depot

    • @calvertschmued2920
      @calvertschmued2920 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      great work! please test corded 10-15amp 7 inch angle grinders, I'd love to see how they compare.

    • @FowlerAskew
      @FowlerAskew ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd be pretty interested to see the Metabo HPT grinders tested. Their standard 18V grinder is only like $100, and their 36V is $250, so if the performance and build quality delivers, I think it could be a good step up from the budget brands without costing quite as much as the more expensive brands.

  • @saiiiiiii1
    @saiiiiiii1 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Makita 40V, Bosch Biturbo and the almighty Dewalt. Showdown of the titans 😮

    • @jordanalexander615
      @jordanalexander615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Milwaukee makes a big grinder too.

    • @94nomad
      @94nomad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would be fun to see the discontinued ridgid that took 2 batteries

    • @saiiiiiii1
      @saiiiiiii1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jordanalexander615 the units I mentioned are all 5"

    • @jordanalexander615
      @jordanalexander615 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saiiiiiii1 oh I thought you were referring to their 4.5 to 6 inch grinders.

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Milwaukee

  • @chrissetter
    @chrissetter ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Variable speed is very important. I can only use variable speed grinders because almost all metal finishing pads (such as PFERD's non woven wool discs) have a low max rpm. It also allows a much more controlled finish on metal to avoid cupping and burning the surface while polishing. Otherwise, these expensive pads will immediately disintegrate.
    Don't forget, wire wheel discs also perform much better, fling less wire projectiles, and are much safer at a lower speed.

    • @Houstonruss
      @Houstonruss ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah and your wire wheels get a huge benefit too!

  • @radioactivekitty9174
    @radioactivekitty9174 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    If you test XGT gear you'll have to test the XGT microwave. Give it the beans, literally?

    • @elliotkane4443
      @elliotkane4443 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lol, I'm curious, but not $1,000 curious.

    • @stauker.1960
      @stauker.1960 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@elliotkane4443 don't say the numbers, they hurt

    • @Sfhakrn
      @Sfhakrn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just plug a normal microwave into a portable FeLi power supply. Can buy both for less than half the price. I personally highly dislike the XGT line. The pricing is INSANE.

    • @PeterTrimboli
      @PeterTrimboli ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Sfhakrn what power supply/inverter can you get with batteries that can output 15 amps at 120 volts to run a microwave for less than $600?

    • @PeterTrimboli
      @PeterTrimboli ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elliotkane4443 yeah wait till it hits the u.s market it will probably start at $600 and then there will be sales with free batteries that's when you want to get it if you're that curious

  • @CrashPro1
    @CrashPro1 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Flex grinder speed adjustment is really useful when polishing since it can be less aggressive as nearing finish. Interesting if output potential is the same, but at least first cut-in is easier to control and more based on pressure applied. Also, wire wheels can really grab, especially on corners, so tames it down a bit. I think the speed adjustment has been very helpful!

    • @ashkebora7262
      @ashkebora7262 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm betting they're just doing a "speed adjustment" via controlling some part of the power input. I don't remember my electronics enough to take a guess at what'd be easiest to produce the behavior, but motors don't take _that_ much current to keep at-speed. Not so surprising if a power limiter would produce both high unloaded RPM and similar max power output if it's just looking for spikes (or only able to see spikes) and some RPM range. It's an angle grinder, after all. Unloaded vs loaded has got to look crazy to the electronics regardless of RPM, and how big is the RPM range literally expected to be anyways?
      Something that'd mostly only soften the 'bite' of it sounds excellent. Speed adjustment sounds less useful and maybe just a bonus, but then my experience is _near_ bubkis.

    • @PeregrineBF
      @PeregrineBF ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ashkebora7262 They're brushless motors, so they'd be controlling the input switching waveforms to the windings. It's the same principle as a variable frequency drive with a three-phase AC motor (because brushless "DC" motors are really multi-phase AC motors driven by switched DC).

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ashkebora7262 They are brushless motors so controlling maximum speed is very easy, just a limit on the commutation rate of the three windings. This would provide the exact effect that TTC is seeing, limiting unloaded speed but not changing loaded speed.

    • @ashkebora7262
      @ashkebora7262 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeregrineBF Aren't BLDC's pretty good at controlling their speed? Not that they'd use a high quality controller for an angle grinder or anything, just opining on where in the electronics they've got the speed switch wired to. Seems like that part's got to be a bit simpler than a smart controller if RPM doesn't change much, unless it's focused entirely on power draw or acceleration. Lots of fun ways they could control performance if there's a computer chip around...

    • @PeregrineBF
      @PeregrineBF ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashkebora7262 BLDCs are great at speed control, because the speed depends entirely on the pulse sequence frequency. It's trivial to change speed with them, partly because they require a computerized controller.

  • @johnmckee7937
    @johnmckee7937 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Fascinating tests!
    Battery life and vibration are never tested by anyone.
    Your the best!

  • @crandonborth
    @crandonborth ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This channel has become one of my favorite as you guys test everything so thoroughly and accurately.

    • @JacobyStevens
      @JacobyStevens ปีที่แล้ว

      The only inaccurate thing is his pricing for Hercules and Milwaukee, his Herc setup is less than 200$ without deals but is listed as 283$ and the Milli would be 450$ without any deals, not 389$. But I'm sure Milli fanboys would rebel if he didn't put it at the top again 😄

  • @joseph-ur2ks
    @joseph-ur2ks ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i have the makita and love it. using the slower speed it helps discs and battery last longer as well as making a better job when using a wood carving or cutting disc or when using a sanding disc, buffing disc, wire wheel or eavan a grinding disc. it heats the metal up less making sharpening tools like mower blades, knives or slashers and certain brush cutter blades last longer and sharpen easyer

  • @luisprieto4589
    @luisprieto4589 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    XGT is the natural competitor given the battery tech. I don't know much about the XGT grinders, but the hammer drill and sawzall absolutely smokes Milwaukee and everyone else while running cooler and smoother

    • @johnthumble5154
      @johnthumble5154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol competitor? No you mean embarrassment 😂 skitkita need to add 22v to stay relevant if they were still only 18v they'd be replaced by Ryobi.
      There's a reason why the FREE Makita tool shelf was never chosen on belts and boxes for a whole year and replaced after Even dewank out does skitkita.
      Keep dreaming.

    • @nodoubt46able
      @nodoubt46able ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnthumble5154 you must be a young kid, thats never even had a power tool in your hand....keep drinking the koolaid junior, and playing your worthless video games... when you get a few years under your belt , come back and comment on a grown up subject...

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Imagine thinking XGT tools are 22V higher than Milwaukee. Marketing really works

    • @johnthumble5154
      @johnthumble5154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TorqueTestChannel lol 18+22 is 40.... Are you actually saying that 😂 lol what! Yes nominal voltage... Lol imagine thinking an 40v battery doesn't provide significantly more power than an 18v tool... When you have a dyno... Lol good one.
      You know because Makita 18v tools regularly out performed Milwaukee...oh wait .. they don't.
      I also love how you neglected every other point I made 😂

    • @luisprieto4589
      @luisprieto4589 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@johnthumble5154 imagine getting your undies in a bunch for a tool. Lol, what's stopping Milwaukee from making a 40v? Speaking about Home Depot, why are their rental tools Makita? I mean, if they want to make max profit, they need the most dependable tool. Makitas are WAAAYYYY smoother, WAAAYYYY better build quality, and last WAAAYYYY longer than your caveman cheaply made tools.

  • @veridico84
    @veridico84 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the lxt and my mate has the Milwaukee. You can use the makita all day, zero fatigue. The Milwaukee you use for 10 minutes and your hands know about it.

    • @johnthumble5154
      @johnthumble5154 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol that's because it's garbage and gutless like most Makita tools 😂

    • @veridico84
      @veridico84 ปีที่แล้ว

      @johnthumble5154 while there are a few makita tools that aren't the greatest, you're fairly far off the reality with your statement.

    • @johnthumble5154
      @johnthumble5154 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@veridico84 not really... 18v Makita is regularly outperformes buy many tool brands including Ryobi

    • @veridico84
      @veridico84 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnthumble5154 as I said, there are some makita tools that don't perform, but they generally are decent.

    • @johnthumble5154
      @johnthumble5154 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@veridico84 I see them as Toyota, they make tools they do the job they're not high performing. When they moved production to china their 18v dropped off.

  • @IisChas
    @IisChas ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yay! I’m so excited to see all these tests. My entire robotics team is obsessed with this channel lol

  • @mudrunner1
    @mudrunner1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't own a variable speed grinder, but I do have several grinders. The max RPM determines what I run on them. Cut off wheels go on the 11,000+ grinders. Flap disc and grinding disc go on the 9500 and wire brushes/wheels go on the 8000 grinders. If you have ever tried to used a wire cup on an 11k RPM grinder you will understand.

    • @jokly1264
      @jokly1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm still picking up wires on and around my driveway from those cupped wheels

  • @edgarcornette6387
    @edgarcornette6387 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to see the Ryobi and how it does.. Thank You for all the work you all put in and the info you provide. Helps out alot when buying tools.

  • @EyeMWing
    @EyeMWing ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Would be extremely interested in how the venerable Makita rat-tail corded 5" (9005BZ is current) stacks up, since it's basically the standard for fabricators who don't mind cords.

  • @karlgnehm7276
    @karlgnehm7276 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.

  • @reaperreaper5098
    @reaperreaper5098 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Speed adjustments really do just exist for lower RPM attachments and to an extent, polishing. I generally use wire wheels on a variable Flex grinder, and flap disks for paint removal, but serious grinding tends to go to my XGT grinders or DeWalt corded.

  • @YankeeCherokee
    @YankeeCherokee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I need to see the Dewalt Flexvolt, with the different size flexvolt batteries! It's the reigning king, and needs to be put to the test against the young blood!
    Crazy how the budget brands have shown up

  • @andreasjonsson8075
    @andreasjonsson8075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A thing to mention is that Makita and (Hilti) are the only brands that I know that meassures the vibrations rrom their powertools. For us in the trades that means that the nerves in the hands last alot longer. And the tool.

  • @2011nickp
    @2011nickp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanna see how you store all of the tools currently have on the shelf/you’ve tested and a shop tour!!!

  • @TheLowlyTraveller
    @TheLowlyTraveller ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would like to see the Kobalt, Rigid, DeWalt and Ryobi tested when you get a chance. I have the Kobalt, only paid $130 for it and I'm pleased with it.

  • @michaelfralick2355
    @michaelfralick2355 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got the M18. The speed adjustment was nice for a wire wheel that needed to spin a little slower, also nice for precision with a flappy

  • @walz1414
    @walz1414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the speed adjustment on grinders. When you're using a 5" cup brush (the most unbalanced attachment I regularly use) it really cuts down on the free speed of the tool, which really cuts down on vibration and extends the brushes useful life. As the tool is going to slow down anyway when you load it up, not having it "runaway" when the tool is brought into the air or gets thrown off a work piece is nice.

  • @Comm0ut
    @Comm0ut ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOVE the runtime test.Runtime is everything on angle grinders.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว

      We're really happy to be able to bring runtime to these tools that dont advertise it, and i think this is basically the only way you could do it. A static digitally controlled load until dead.

    • @epiiryana5393
      @epiiryana5393 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @RentableSocks
    @RentableSocks ปีที่แล้ว +21

    i've been building out my hercules tools, I think there's only one tool i paid full price for. there was a sale a few weeks ago you could get TWO of the ~~5ah~~ (8h! edited) batteries for 120 bucks. the rotating deals at HF really bring the cost down if you're not time sensitive on picking tools up. Also fairly impressed with all of the herc tools, very happy.

    • @boostlee5236
      @boostlee5236 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was 2 8ah batteries for 120. Plus the nicer charger and the price comes to about $200. I'll stick to hercules and just wait for the deals to stock up.

    • @RentableSocks
      @RentableSocks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boostlee5236 you are right my mistake! even better deal than what I said ;)

    • @IIHawkGamingII
      @IIHawkGamingII ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's insane. Milwaukee's 2x 8ah xc8.0 is almost $400

    • @vanguard6937
      @vanguard6937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At the moment you can get the herc, with a 5ah battery and a charger for $120. I wish my store had one in stock because I'd be jumping on that in a heartbeat

    • @enthused7591
      @enthused7591 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Best deal ever right now. $99 for the 8.0 amp battery and pretty much any tool you want included. I just grabbed 4 of the 8.0 amp batteries at $49 each, impact driver, hammer drill, angle grinder etc. all $49 ea. That 8.0 amp hour high output 21700 cell battery is a game changer for these tools, they all make 30-40% more power than with the 5.0 amp hour. Guess I'm just gonna sell my Milwaukee and pocket the $700 difference because Hercules is unbeatable right now.

  • @hammyzgod
    @hammyzgod ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been running my dewalt flexvolt DCG418 like a dog for the last 3 years I always run it on 9ah or 12ah batteries as it just chews through the 6ah's to fast but honestly I always ran milwaukee until I got this beast and it was even more powerful than my corded makita which blew me away, another good thing about the 418 is that it came with a 6in gaurd as well as the 4,1/2in so it's perfect for doing wall chasing for leadwork.
    I'd live to see how this model holds up against the newest models guys and keep up the great content.

  • @steffendetrick
    @steffendetrick ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not a Makita guy at all but I would still take it over that HF. Almost every job site I’ve been on for the past 23 years tile guys are running those Makita grinder’s. And they beat the hell out of them. I also have a feeling you’re going to start to see huge gains with these Milwaukee tools when the stacked lithium drops. Another channel put a flex stacked lithium on the Milwaukee half-inch hammer drill using a 3-D printed battery adapter😂…, and it was absolutely ridiculous.

  • @pkt1213
    @pkt1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta say the Kobalt angle grinder but that is the only cordless I own. Never actually used it as an angle grinder, just with a cutoff wheel.

    • @pkt1213
      @pkt1213 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which I think is $99 normally. I think it was a free tool when I purchased a 2ah and 4ah battery combo, $79 or $89 I think.

  • @tundatime
    @tundatime ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see the Dewalt and Bosch options.

  • @danr1920
    @danr1920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ideally one would own the same brand for everything to save big money on batteries and chargers. It gets complicated when one brand excels at one thing a not so good at another. I'm impressed that a cordless grinder has respectable performance at all.

  • @blackjackfabrication4043
    @blackjackfabrication4043 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Milwaukee Variable speed is a purpose built tool. It is more expensive than the standard Fuel 4-1/2” grinder. Yes you can do basic grinding with it but the point is for blending/polishing wheels not made to spin as fast as a standard grinder. I use them to polish stainless at a lower speed. Also I can feel a difference in power in the standard fuel grinder over the variable. Not sure if that’s true but it feels like it. But I don’t use the variable or the standard model to do much cutting. I have a 4-1/2”-6” model if I need to grind heavy and the grinder isn’t that much bigger.

  • @hendo337
    @hendo337 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got the Hart a few months ago when it came out, it way nicer than the brushed version I also have, I got the Sawzall in both brushed and brushless, the 3/8 brushed impact, the 1/2" brushless impact, the brushless drill and driver, like 12 4a/h, 2 2a/h and 2 1.5 a/h batteries alone with the air compressor, lights, a fan, I went all outnon this Hart stuff since it's easiest for me to hit Walmart, I haven't regretted it, I like the Milwaukee stuff, I suppose I like to be extra Sloppy Mechanics and do things differently.

  • @Abel-Harland
    @Abel-Harland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lets see the Dewalt flexvolt grinder! That thing is a BEAST, they advertize 3hp. Decent battery life under heavy load too (probably because it just gets everything done so fast).

  • @agentmango
    @agentmango ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent idea to measure vibration. I find vibration to be a real concern when using oscillating tools, would be neat to see that measured.

    • @CP-mb7ly
      @CP-mb7ly ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah my concern about durability isn't the tool, it's the hand that holds it!

  • @thejo6331
    @thejo6331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, that vibe data is super interesting!! That stuff is important to me, thanks for including it!

  • @RandomGuy-qm3mg
    @RandomGuy-qm3mg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    would love to see the new(ish) Bosch Profactor grinder sometime Bosch PROFACTOR 18V SPITFIRE GWS18V

  • @carterbaldinelli4592
    @carterbaldinelli4592 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It would be cool to see if you guys would try testing dewalts corded brushless angle grinder compared to corded and cordless that would be interesting to see

    • @SomeGuysGarage
      @SomeGuysGarage ปีที่แล้ว

      I did a bit of testing on five different Dewalt grinders on my channel, but I'm excited to see what TTC gets out of them. I wasn't too impressed with the flexvolt advantage grinders (the ones that can run on 20v or 60v) as I found you're better off with just getting the full on 60v flexvolt at that point, but I'd love to have more solid numbers from TTC to back that up.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SomeGuysGarage The 60V is like a 6-7" grinder though, so of course it's more powerful.

    • @SomeGuysGarage
      @SomeGuysGarage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TorqueTestChannel the 60v can run the 4.5" wheels and comes with the smaller guard for them even (at least mine did).
      The argument though is by the time you buy the flexvolt advantage grinder and separately at least one 60v battery to get the most out of it, you can just by the full 60v flexvolt kit for close to the same price. So why wouldn't you go with the bigger grinder?
      Either way, I'd love to see the measurements on all the Dewalt cordless grinders...mine had the 413, 414, and 416...but I'd like to see the 418 instead of the older 414.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SomeGuysGarage Oh pricing wise, yeah i totally get it. Class wise, if we compared a 6-7" grinder vs these we'd be buried in the comments. We plan to buy the 60V to go up against other ones that size at some point no doubt.

    • @SomeGuysGarage
      @SomeGuysGarage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TorqueTestChannel can't wait :)

  • @nashneubauer9016
    @nashneubauer9016 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do love my 60V dewalt grinder! It is a bit bulky but comfortable to use and has great power.

  • @faithandfarmingtennessee872
    @faithandfarmingtennessee872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need to see the rest of the TTI offerings. Ryobi and Ridgid please. Dewalt and Flex would be interesting also.

  • @stefanvanzyl9090
    @stefanvanzyl9090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been using my ryobi cordless brushless grinder XBG-115 for just about 8 months now, 3Ah battery packs. The speed reduction works great when cutting plastics, thin sheet metal and cable armouring - reduces heat, cuts cleaner and is easier to control. Though electrical installations is probably not the primary focus for big, heavy, powerful grinders!

  • @pizzamangametime9773
    @pizzamangametime9773 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been buying into the hercules 20v line and have been impressed so far. I bought the 3/8ths impact which has been great for lighter stuff and is small enough to get into places and will do my lug nuts with ease which is nice to keep in the car. I also managed to get 2 5ah batteries for 45 bucks a pop during a sale and also picked up the grinder and ocilating multi tool for 120 for both during the buy 2 tools for 120 and have been impressed with both so far. All in all for those 3 tools 2 5ah batteries and a charger I am in 315 dollars before tax looking at my reciepts so moral of the story if you don't need it now wait for a sale harbor frieght has them all the time and it is worth it for the garage mechanic and homeowner

  • @michaelburrell4685
    @michaelburrell4685 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Kobalt angle grinder that has been an absolute trooper for two years now. The only issue is it burns through Kobalt batteries VERY fast and slows down a lot under heavy grinding.
    My best friend died two days ago and I have his Milwaukee grinder now so I will be putting to work to honor him. I had been trying to buy that grinder from him for a long time… I didn’t want to get it this way though.

  • @user-bz6cu8mi4l
    @user-bz6cu8mi4l ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im glad this channel is uploading more. Is the upload schedule going to change or, is it going to be every Friday with the occasional extra episode .

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's always every Friday, and sometimes a bonus day here and there.

  • @Troyvidihoo
    @Troyvidihoo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video as always. I would sure like to see the other two TTI brands Ridgid and Ryobi. I expect judging by having identical parts on the outside that the Ryobi brushless is identical inside to Hart. The Ridgids R86042 (10600rpm) and R86047 (9000rpm) have a bigger more powerful motor, with noticeably better performance in my experience. I would also like to see Flex's variable speed grinder tested. I appreciate your pointing out that these variable speed models do not actually have a governor function which I personally find very beneficial. Some Kobalt selectable speed tools excel in this area! Which gives me hope for this Flex model. You guys are living my dream, love your videos, thanks again!

  • @Nanan00
    @Nanan00 ปีที่แล้ว

    We got some DCG416VSB not to long ago to replace corded units that had burned up and I have to say I am impressed. We are running them with 9ah flexvolt batteries as we use those for other tools in the shop.

  • @_P0tat07_
    @_P0tat07_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to see the brushless Dewalt models tested! Bonus points if you test the base model and the flexvolt advantage and/or power detect models as well

  • @johndeerekid167
    @johndeerekid167 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMO, the speed control is really just for polishing, sanding, buffing, and other low torque applications. It is quite useful.

  • @mikeschmidt4800
    @mikeschmidt4800 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the Herc grinder with the purchase of two 5ah batteries. Can't beat that with a 5 year in store warranty. I only use a grinder to cut concrete to install garage doors or when I'm playing around with my welder.

  • @joec9680
    @joec9680 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a corded variable speed grinder mainly for use with wire wheels. Those quality HF wire wheels stay together much better at lower than normal grinder speeds. The lower you go with speed while maintaining a constant load = more heat from the motor. Yes that’s somewhat common sense but I say this because if I run it at “1” it’s lowest speed it will get so hot I have to give the thing a break in fear I’m going to melt down the motor. So I mostly use it at “3” it never gets to hot at that speed.

  • @adakrahn6892
    @adakrahn6892 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the variable speed on the m18 2888 for control when prepping and finishing canoe stem bands/bash plates/reinforced high wear spots. They're made with kevlar felt and marine epoxy.

  • @ForfeMac
    @ForfeMac ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought my makita cordless on special with a free battery, and I use it way more than I thought I would. It's nice not having to drag out a cord to use an angle grinder on something quick, and the runtime doesn't bother me because if I'm doing something big I'll bite the bullet and dig out a cord. But if I'm off to the scrapyard to pull parts, or fixing something away from the shop, it's a godsend.

  • @JerrodNewsome-eu7uy
    @JerrodNewsome-eu7uy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you should check out the flex with stacked lithium batteries & then maybe the metabo hpt & metabo Grider's. I know I would buy a metabo grinder over any other brand.

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great review as usual and can't wait to see the xgt model tested :) btw if you open the Milwaukee grinder and see how it's motor is constructed you will know why it has such low efficiency :)
    Also on xgt model the speed regulation works much better, it uses feedback and regulates the output based on the load.

  • @airtothewick
    @airtothewick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my mates and i have had issues with the bearings on the motor spindle of milwauke battery grinders with the housing going out of round due to heat

  • @waggtech4883
    @waggtech4883 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having a dewalt, Milwaukee and Hercules cordless grinder, the Hercules is my favorite for battery life. I’m planning to add a couple more of them and mix between paddle and thumb switch so I don’t have to change the wheels back and forth. Grind, cut and wire wheel.

  • @Ruudwardt
    @Ruudwardt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The XGT grinder is all around not a small jump up from any of the 18V options.
    XGT makes wired tools redundant in most cases - last I picked up my wired grinder was when I had loaned out the XGT one. The grinder is as powerful as totl wired and the battery lasts for quite a while.

  • @JWGasner
    @JWGasner ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Consider the Ridgid 18v grinder. Great content!

  • @crnlbwlawson
    @crnlbwlawson ปีที่แล้ว

    Kobalt 24v... Bought on memorial day special, tool was free with purchase of 4AH, 2AH, and charger for $149. Hard to beat. 5yr warranty tool, and 3yr battery. This was my second one, original still running strong.

  • @JoeTheDIY
    @JoeTheDIY ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The only one I have is the Ryobi Brushless, so I'm curious how it compares. Think you could test one of those next time you go back to grinders?

    • @thatrealba
      @thatrealba ปีที่แล้ว

      I have that one too, and tbh, it's my only Ryobi that I'm disappointed in. And I'm pretty deep into the platform.

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd also like to see the Ryobi tested.

    • @JoeTheDIY
      @JoeTheDIY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatrealba Interesting. What did you not like about it? So far I've done a lot with mine, including masonry grinding and cutting on my garage floor to patch it. I'm wondering where the limitations are.

    • @thatrealba
      @thatrealba ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoeTheDIY it just seems underpowered and bogs easily, compared to what I was expecting. Maybe the 5 amp hour battery just doesn't provide enough juice. I dunno. But I'm sure they will throw one in the mix at some point.

    • @JoeTheDIY
      @JoeTheDIY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatrealba Gotcha. I usually try to let the tool do the work, but I can understand that. I usually use a 6ah HP battery. I blew through two and a half 1.5ah batteries sharpening two lawnmower blades. Higher ah and HP batteries seem to make a difference.

  • @Z-Ack
    @Z-Ack ปีที่แล้ว

    Speed adjustment on grinders is used for sanding or buffing sometimes..

  • @Sfhakrn
    @Sfhakrn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought and returned but would love to see the Kobalt angle grinder ranked. They only make one so no need to specify a model.

  • @adampetten1009
    @adampetten1009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sp glad you did this. I have a few Milwaukee grinders and wanted the 2888 for speed control but if it's not really controlling rpm then it's essentially useless.

  • @donpayton737
    @donpayton737 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that you had the tool vibration in the scoring. When you're using a tool for a long time nothing is more annoying than the tingling and itchy arms

  • @wearsjorge55
    @wearsjorge55 ปีที่แล้ว

    For people considering price, its worth keeping in mind the price is inflated a bit with the variable speed adjustment

  • @Sawguy76
    @Sawguy76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have to throw in the Dewalt. Both the 20v and the 60v with their 3ah/9ah flexvolt pack

  • @nelsoncarpentry
    @nelsoncarpentry ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the low speed on the Makita for coping trim with a flap disc. Works great.

  • @adamspivey
    @adamspivey ปีที่แล้ว

    Torque Test Channel and Project Farm are two of the BEST channels on TH-cam!

  • @blendpinexus1416
    @blendpinexus1416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    something i've learned between this channel and long term reviews is that brands like rigid and hercules are pretty damn good if your not hemmering on the tool all day long.

  • @strizzy239
    @strizzy239 ปีที่แล้ว

    Milwaukee fuel 4 1/2-6”. I know it’s bigger but it does also use 4 1/2 accessories. Even if it can’t actually compete, it would be really cool just to see. It’s not very much bigger and a better buy IMO. The option to use 6” is awesome. Much quicker grinding and sanding and wire brushing as the contact patch is substantially larger. Thing is very hard to get it to bog down. Love that thing. I bet it would eat all these grinders lunch. It claims 13A corded power.

  • @kaner5873
    @kaner5873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Test all the different cordless dewalts, including the flat-head model hopefully

  • @sammccollum2985
    @sammccollum2985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm surprised you tested the Milwaukee 2888 this way and more surprised it did that well since it's a special purpose tool normally reserved for finer grained flap discs, specialized surface conditioning attachments, etc.
    Why didn't you test the 2880? I'd be interested in the results on that one considering how expensive the 2888 is in comparison.

  • @SmDJeremy
    @SmDJeremy ปีที่แล้ว

    Hilti grinders have surprised me.. my current employer uses them. I'm actually a fan of them now to be honest. I'm a pipefitter, if that helps. Grinder is one of the main tools of my trade.

  • @4GibMe
    @4GibMe ปีที่แล้ว

    Speed adjustment, better know as Variable Speed, is a must for us in the tile and stone industry. Full speed on a grinder burns out allot the diamond tool attachments, like diamond polishing pads.
    There is nothing ODD about.

  • @Marin-tk7io
    @Marin-tk7io ปีที่แล้ว

    Test out the brushed cordless Milwaukee M18 grinder (Model # 2680-20), always goes on sale/is thrown in as a “free tool” when buying battery starter kits

  • @speedyink
    @speedyink ปีที่แล้ว

    Variable speed is also good for applications you may not think about when using a grinder. Carving and sanding wood for example

  • @aaronneher4860
    @aaronneher4860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At a place I worked we used a dynabrade 4 1/2” air grinders. Supposedly 20,000 rpm free speed and if you were good with a drill you could port it out and really turn the rpms and power up as well as noise. I’d love to see one tested but would prefer you not to test the porting option because once it’s ported, it’s ported. Those things could remove metal at an incredible rate though

  • @ma2la
    @ma2la ปีที่แล้ว

    if you do a lot of metal polishing and such the variable speed really makes a difference. i used to speed all day with a older 5 "Milwaukee corded unit that had the variable speed but was a 13amp beast when needed. they discontinued it and never found one i was happy with after. i wish this m18 unit had been out the last time i bought one i would have nabbed it but i have made due with my other m18 grinders and doubt ill ever have to buy another one now

  • @Forge135
    @Forge135 ปีที่แล้ว

    If your checking vibration, if like to see Flex's offering. I don't have the grinder but the reciprocating saw is mind blowing for vibration dampening.

  • @Darkcruzer23
    @Darkcruzer23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If i remember correctly Ridgid did extremely well in project farms test. I'd love to see it tested by you guys to get a more scientific stats rating

  • @isaaccaris9530
    @isaaccaris9530 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every other trade marks is on the second categorie if not made xlock grinders.. jus save makita and bosch ,that is the nextr level on grinders .... i should be say bosch grinder is very safety , it turn down if fall, is stuck or some kick back... and brake motor is so quick .. under a second is stop ,so i love it

  • @joemad4110
    @joemad4110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dewalt Flexvolt grinder. The 9ah pack with that grinder is a monster

  • @vincentcloutieryes
    @vincentcloutieryes ปีที่แล้ว

    I only use the variable speed for wire wheel brush and blendex drum .

  • @tomredman
    @tomredman ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got the Milwaukee, i use the speed control for polishing, at full speed you burn up your sandpaper pad in no time. and also for core drilling with m14 diamond core drills, you need to go slow to make sure you start it off in the right place, and also again, you generate too much heat at higher speeds.

  • @likeaboss882
    @likeaboss882 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh man. I can’t wait to see what the flexvolt grinder does. Would be curious to see the original launch one vs the updated one. Apparently they made the current one even more powerful.

    • @Parents_of_Twins
      @Parents_of_Twins ปีที่แล้ว

      I seriously considered buying one of those but went with a corded Makita instead. I don't like the slide switch I really like a trigger switch not sure why they aren't as common as they used to be. Haven't had a chance to really push the Makita so not sure how I'm going to like it. I like the variable speed option though.

  • @Iowa599
    @Iowa599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Low rpm is important for some accessories that aren't for angle grinders, but fit, like sanding discs. I'd use my grinder more if it wouldn't ruin discs as soon as they touch anything.

  • @andrewalaska
    @andrewalaska ปีที่แล้ว

    Lower speed it definitely good for tile honing. And it's nice it holds the speed. You want lower free speed so it doesn't fling the velcro attached honing pad off, but maintain the speed when you lean into it.

  • @ampaddiction
    @ampaddiction ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always thanks for the hard work. I am primarily a dewalt guy although i do have a pretty large number of skil tools for my home use. I would like to see the skil brushless grinder tested. I will be glad to send you mine spare one to test if you would be interested in doing so. Let me know where to send it please.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely some surprises here

  • @mrsillyname
    @mrsillyname ปีที่แล้ว

    you can use the slower speeds for polishing

  • @calvertschmued2920
    @calvertschmued2920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great work! please test corded 10-15amp 7 inch angle grinders, I'd love to see how they compare.

  • @frankstone8930
    @frankstone8930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Test for longevity and build quality.
    That's what really matters.
    Shiny numbers and peak performance is for marketing guys.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว

      We encourage anyone suggesting that to try and make a video on the subject quantifying those things on a new model. Typically you accelerate abuse to the point you can catch it on camera and it's just going to be disregarded as unrealistic use.

  • @jspikeball123
    @jspikeball123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see Ridgid corded/cordless as they are all I use. Thanks guys!
    Would also love to see what a commercial air grinder would do on this setup!

  • @EzTechJoe
    @EzTechJoe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for the Dewalt version to be added to the chart! 💯

  • @itsthedanyole
    @itsthedanyole ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my Hart brushless grinder tool only for sale for $80 and later found a 2 pack of 4ah batteries on sale for $90 with a free tool of my choice, I picked the palm sander. I've been pretty happy with it for at work, it's about a year old now and actually runs better as the gears wear into each other.

  • @earl3358
    @earl3358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suggested previously to include some 'Makita form factor' (for Makita battery) brushless grinders. I picked up a 3 speed BL for $32 that's quite decent. If one has Makita type batteries then the value cant be beat even if it may fall short of the big names.
    BTW a 21700 Makita 1p or 2p battery can be made from a kit, might be of interest for testing purposes

  • @Taylormade2350
    @Taylormade2350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's funny how harbor freight tools always seem to be towards the top of the charts these days on both this channel and project farm. Take that you harbor freight haters.

  • @mazman117
    @mazman117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait to see Milwaukee come out with a dual battery configuration like they did the blower. 😆

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You laugh but have you seen the Ridgid monstrosity? www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18V-OCTANE-Brushless-Cordless-7-in-Dual-Angle-Grinder-Tool-Only-R88040B/306526541

  • @asidesignstudios2027
    @asidesignstudios2027 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please include the FLEXVOLT angle grinder. I have one that I've put through he ll and it still runs very strong. It behaves almost identically to my corded grinder and I would love to see how it dewalt stacks up.
    Thanks for your channel and all the amazing data you are collecting and sharing! Keep it up 😁

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Hart tool shows that they've been listening to Ryobi owners complaining about the battery sticking down in the way. Many Ryobi tools need the battery mount rotated 180 degrees!

  • @RunninGunner04
    @RunninGunner04 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Test the 60v flex volt dewalts it’s a beast

  • @GoldmansGarage
    @GoldmansGarage 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As the tools I have are Porter cable. I’d love to see you pick up the standard 6-9 battery cordless set and see where they stand. Have to say I’m considering Hercules now