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1911 Series Summary and Wrap Up - Selection of a Carry Gun
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I select a carry gun from the 44 1911 pistols that I reviewed in the 22-part Great Affordable 1911 Series. Remember, my selection was limited to the pistols I reviewed in the series, not any other pistols. (Videos on the selection of a range pistol coming soon.) Below is a list of the pistols we reviewed for this series:
Colt: Government, LightWeight Commander, Wiley Clapp Commander
Kimber: Custom TLE/TFS, Pro Carry, Aluminum Stainless, Ultra Carry II, Aegis, KHX
Ruger: SR1911 Full-size, Commander (3), Officer
S&W: "E"-Series, Performance Center, Scandium, Pro Series
Dan Wesson: Vigil, ECO, Guardian, CCO, PM-C
STI: Duty One, Elektra, Guardian, Staccato C
Rock Island: Government, Tactical
Sig: Scorpion, Nitron Fastback, Stainless Target Elite
Springfield: Mil-Spec, Range Officer, RO Compact, EMP CCC
Taurus: PT1911
Norinco: Model of the 1911 A1
Les Baer: Stinger
Nighthawk: T4
Citadel: CCO
For the TH-cam manual reviewers:
1) This video complies with all TH-cam guidelines and standards;
2) All firearm handling is done by a trained professional in a controlled, safe environment and all shooting is done on a dedicated, safe shooting range;
3) The link below is to my personal website and I do not sell, or offer for sale, firearms or ammunition;
4) This video is intended to entertain and inform. It is not intended to sell, or offer for sale, any firearms, ammunition, or accessory;
5) The firearm(s) shown in this video are completely stock and are not "previously modified" firearms.
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I just picked up the Ed Brown Evo KC9 G4. The moment I removed it from the carry case and "gripped up" on the pistol, I immediately could feel the quality of this firearm. Well balanced and cosmetically...a really good looking pistol. The fit and finish is remarkable and the slide action is as smooth as butter. Tge trippger is crisp and clean on the break and the reset is instat.
In detail and workmanship to quality of excellence...the Ed Brown is by far, arguably one of the best CC 1911 any where out there in the industry. 🏆🏁
I’d take the Colt for carry & the S&W for the range, but really it could be the other way around. I like carrying my all steel .45 1911s.
RGL01, I like shooting the steel-frame guns, but for daily carry, I prefer to keep the loaded weight under 36 ounces. I still occasionally carry the PointMan Carry, but at more than 41 ounces, that's relegated to days when I'm not walking around much. Thanks for watching.
Great job on this project, you did this with the heart felt love of the 1911. You just fell more American with a 1911 on the hip.
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Great job on this project , you did this with the heart felt love of the 1911, you shared tons of great knowledge and testing, you just fell more American with a 1911 on the hip .
David, thank you for watching and for your kind comment.
Amazing content! I agree 100% with your choice. ECO in 9mm is hard to beat!
P K, thanks for watching and commenting.
I now carry a Staccato C and agree with your "cons". The grip should have more of a texture; I addressed this with grip tape. The new Cs have carry triggers near 5 lbs so that was fixed. I probably will change the mag release. It's so concealable that it's easy to forgot I'm carrying; the fix is simply to carry every waking hour. It's a great shooting gun which more than compensates for the minor cons.
Rick, thank you for watching and commenting. I did a video back in August 2020 comparing the original C vs the new C DUO (demonetized by TH-cam for reasons unknown - but still visible on my channel). The grip texture has been improved, as has the trigger (for carry, as you mentioned), but not the mag release.
Spoiler alert: Watch for my follow-up on what I'm carrying now.
Fantastic series! Thoroughly enjoyable!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Great choice can't go wrong with DW I carry the DW Vigil CCO 9mm. I also swap it out with the SA RO compact 45 acp both are light weight and conceal well and are dependable. Love your reviews thank you....
Jerry, the Vigil CCO is essentially the same as the DW CCO .45 that I reviewed in Part 16 of my series. Very nice shooting, quality pistol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
My EDC for the past 12 years has been the Kimber Ultra Carry II 45acp. Ive trained at Front Sight with it and feel very confident with it. I also own 3 other 1911's all in 45 acp Colts and a Springfield TRP love them all.
Front Sight training is great, and the Ultra Carry II is a very nice carry gun. Thanks for watching.
Love the 1911 series you’ve done.
Zeb, thank you for watching.
I know you were a good leader when you were a police officer, perfect demeanor and calming voice, had to add that. 👍Dan Wesson are first class.
Ira, thank you very much.
The series was a success, and I appreciate your time and effort in sharing so much gun ology , Happy New Year 2022 is here . Thanks Rider Stay Strong 💪.
Wayne, many thanks for watching, commenting, and helping me reach that subscriber milestone.
@@RidersRange The pleasure has been mine as well Rider !
This must have been fun to make!
It definitely was. Thanks for watching.
I started following you before you hit 1000 subs and remember trying to get you there. Great videos like this series, your range is also like a country club but most of all is your likable personality and knowledge and ability to describe guns. Can you do a series on double stack 1911/2011 without the affordable part? You might need to add a few: Para-Ordnance, Llama and RIA.
Thank you for sticking with me and helping me reach that milestone. I hope all is well with you, as I haven't seen a new post on your channel in a while.
I would like to do more with the double-stack guns. I borrowed an RIA 10mm for one review, and of course, I own a couple Staccato double-stack guns. I just need to find more friends who have those guns to loan to me for reviews.
@@RidersRange Whe you come through Georgia. Stay a few days and video mine. 1 Wilson X9S, 1 Staccato P, 3 Bul Armory, 2 Para Ordinance and a Llama Mini Max. I love all but the last one named, the Llama might be gone soon. I've been building for the last 2 months and moving in this week. Change is good, I guess. I'll start making videos in a week or two. Lots of accessible concrete poured outside, a big accessible bathroom, new kitchen appliances, new electrical/lighting and paint. More than I originally planned.
Congratulations on the 10k!!! I really don't remember a video that I was in disagreement with your perspective including this one. Your honesty and straight forward approach to all your reviews both good and bad is really refreshing. Especially when you look at all the so called "experts" that are on TH-cam. You don't have any affiliation with manufacturers and everything you show is either from your personal safe or loaned to you by friends. That my friend shows just how trustworthy you are. Keep up the great work and I hope your New Year is filled with health and great enjoyment.
John, thanks for watching and for your kind words. I try to do every video the way I would want to watch it. I'm glad it works for you.
That’s awesome incredible accomplishment congratulations 🎉🎊
Thanks for watching and helping me get to that milestone.
Great series!!!
Tony, thank you for watching and commenting.
👍 Been carrying a ECO for 4yrs now! Started with the 45acp, then purchased the 9mm. Love them both! Winter Cary is a Ruger Commander, but that might change soon I just picked up a DW Vigil 45acp full size! Good choice Brother, it's Range Time!!
Karl, thanks for watching and adding your thoughts.
Thank you sir. Appreciate the effort you put into this.
flaco5581, the series was a labor of love. Thanks for watching and thank you for helping me reach the 10K milestone.
I didn't like the 1911 until I held a colt that was made in 1912 it was through ww1 . Ww2 . Korea and Vietnam the wood Checkering was smooth from all the handling and age. It had most of the finish off from all the holster wear, since then I've been obsessed. Thanks for the video
The 1911 is addictive. Thank you for watching and commenting.
HAPPY NEW YEAR, and Congratulations on the 10K subscribers......... keep posting we'll keep watching.
C Henry, thank you for watching my videos and helping me get to that 10K. More to come.
For a carry gun in my opinion sights and trigger are the last things I’m worried about. According to data going back to the early 90s most self defense shootings are within 3-5 yards. That’s draw point n shoot territory. The sights aren’t even used. Also with all that adrenaline going thru ur body ur not gonna even notice what the trigger feels like. A battle gun is a different story…..kinda
Sean, I'm afraid you and I will have to agree to disagree on the subject. I've seen far too many documented cases where good guy and bad guy exchanged shots as close as 6 feet apart and neither one hit the other. Luck counts, but you can't count on luck. It takes skill and a tremendous amount of continuous practice to "point shoot" at anything beyond arms length and expect a good hit without counting on luck. Even then, trigger control is king and a great trigger makes that control a little easier. As to the 3-5 yards "average", the operative word is "most", and I'm not one to rely on statistical averages. That's why I do 90% of my practice and training from 12 to 25 yards, and some out to 50 yards. I want to be prepared for the situations that are outside that "average". And I want the best equipment available to give me every possible edge.
@@RidersRange to each their own the. I guess. I like my carry gun to be as small and as light as possible. Most of the time it’s the Glock 43x or sig p365. With both of those I can hit my target very consistently within 20 yards. I belong to a private gun club so I practice real life situations instead of just standing there shooting at paper. Both triggers are very different but like I said I could care less what they feel like. Just my opinion
My Colt Wiley Clapp light weight commander is a great gun but for a carry gun I find it to have way to many sharp edges on it. The front cocking serrations are so sharp that they remove a small amount of leather from the inside of my holster every time I draw. Colt could do a lot better. I have a Dan Wesson Eco in .45. I absolutely love it! It's such a smooth, beautiful, high quality firearm. I love how Dan Wesson slightly rounds the butt as you mentioned. Great choice! Thanks for all your work on this series. I really enjoyed each episode.
Jon, many thanks for watching and commenting. I really like my ECOs - one in .45 and two in 9mm - but I do shoot the 9mm better on defensive drills.
You are a true professional sir. That is not generally the case on you tube. Thank you
Thank you for watching and for the compliment. And thanks for helping me reach the 10K milestone.
A very Happy and healthy new Year to you and Family, as well. Congratulations, on you 1911 pick, at long last! I like your Dan Wesson selection! Too bad it wasn't a Colt. I'm a big Colt Fan, believe it or not! LOL!!! 🇺🇸
I've searched and I can't find a compact Colt, or a Colt Commander, that can come close to the quality of a Dan Wesson. Maybe that will change, now that CZ also owns Colt. Thanks for watching.
@@RidersRange I hope you're right!
Two Week Wait??? Oh Well. I wasn’t very surprised about the ECO, but your enthusiasm for the smaller Staccato has me wondering. Thanks for Sharing! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Once again, thank you for watching and helping me get to 10K. No spoiler alert here, but......
Been carrying my sw m&p shield 45 or cz 2075 rami every day for about two years since I received my MI cpl. Have a 3” 1911 and two full size all in 45 acp. Your video was interesting as always. Happy new years to all.
Will, thanks once again for watching and commenting. Here's hoping for a healthy 2022.
Totally agree I would add Dan Wesson ECP and Wilson Combat 1911 3 in a quarter inch with 15-round mag my top three would have been the Wilson Combat the staccato and then the ECP of ndcp
Keith, if I weren't limited to the 44 guns in the original series, Wilson would certainly be toward the top of my list, as would a couple other Dan Wesson pistols. However, this was a follow-up to that series, so I limited my selection to only those in the series. On Sunday, January 16th I plan to release a video on "What I Am Carrying Now". That may - or may not - be the same as this summary. Thanks for watching.
My edc is a Dan Wesson eco in 9mm also. My range gun is a Dan Wesson point man 9. Waiting to see what you pick for a range gun🙂
Next Sunday for the range gun(s??) video. Thanks for watching.
Congratulations on your increasing subscriber count, you definitely earn it with your knowledgeable and honest content. I like that the ECO has won your choice for a carry 1911. I would love to have one in my holster. Looking forward to your videos on whatever you choose to look at next. Best to you.
Thank you for watching and commenting, and for helping my channel reach that milestone.
Great choice! Dan Wesson broke the code. For me it's the PMC and I say it's The holster that mitigates the weight concerns. Going to be taking another look at your choice as I do think great minds do have a tendency to think alike.
I believe in a quality holster on a quality dedicated gun belt. (KORE for the win.) Neither of those help when my hips disappeared. Thanks for watching.
I just noticed you’ve reached 10k subscribers as of this video! Congratulations 🎉🎈🎊🍾
And you were an early supporter, so thank you very much.
@@RidersRange Thank YOU! This is a great channel!
I have a Dan Wesson Guardian .38 Super, an outstanding weapon. I love the feel of Bobtail grip configurations. KIMBER Camp Guard 1911 10mm and SIG nightmare carry .357 SIG. Naturally the 1911 COLTS IN .45 and an engraved. 38 Super are great with the standard grip configurations. LW Commander [1971 era] or all steel. There is just something about the 1911 pistol that extrudes confidence for me when carried. Don't own a 1911 in 9mm; favor the Super. Great series on my personal favorite sidearm. Been carrying one for 50 years and if limited to a handgun and KNEW I would be in a fight I'd reach for a 1911 pistol without hesitation.
SGT MAJ Trapp, once again, thank you for watching and commenting, and helping me reach that 10K milestone. Folks regularly suggest the .38 Super, and it is an interesting caliber, but that would mean one more caliber to reload. But maybe some day..... After all, it took a while for me to get into 10mm, and that led me to the Camp Guard, which I really like.
@Rider's-Range big fan of the Camp Guard 1911 10mm myself love the bobtail grip. Use to feel the regular 1911. 1911A1 was great in the hand until I got pistols with that bobtail configuration.
Congratulations on 10k! That’s awesome. Maybe next year they’ll invite you to the Gundies.
Thanks, but I'm guessing I'm a LONG way from the Gundies. But thank you for helping my channel reach that milestone.
My Dad was a WW II vet, so, 1911 is in my genes. Bought my first in 1983 and carried one for 15 years. Still do sometimes.
Brian, thank you for watching and commenting. I'll be doing a quick review of a WW II Remington 1911 A1 in the very near future. I shot it with some 1965 vintage military hardball ammo.
@@RidersRange I will be watching for it. I have followed you almost from the start. Thank you for your straight forward, real world content.
Congratulations on your 10,000 subscribers! Well deserved.
Max, as always, thanks for watching and commenting.
Love your reviews! Genuine, Honest, and Unafraid. Really fits my review criteria, and my purchasing pathway. Please continue!
Grover, thank you for watching and commenting. I plan on at least one review every week, maybe more, until I run out of things to review, or health gets in the way. I'm hoping both are a long way away.
@@RidersRange Not so sure we are or different ages, I am 62, and considering my first 1911 as I am newbie. starting my frontrunner as the Girsan 1911MC-CT. Gotta have option for a Dot, either red or green.Eyesight is growing consideration w age!
I have close to a decade on you and an astigmatism makes for challenges with iron sights, so I'm getting more into optics. I recently purchased a Swampfox green dot, but haven't done much shooting with it. I'll probably do a review at some point. (Don't get turned off by the brand "Swampfox". They are quality optics from an American company. They are made in China, as are most optics, but are made specifically to Swampfox engineering specs, not re-branded stuff, and the name "Swampfox" has historical significance.)
I haven't shot a Girsan, but EAA markets some quality, affordable, pistols. I can't find much info on the Perry optic that comes with the Girsan 1911, but I believe it fits on the same footprint as the Vortex Venom/Viper or Swampfox Liberty or Justice. Unfortunately, there are no provisions for co-witness iron sights, which, for me, would be a requirement.
If you get one, I'd be curious about your thoughts, once you get some trigger time with it.
The 9mm Dan Wesson ECO is a great choice. If you have the opportunity, I recommend that you evaluate the Wilson Combat EDC X9s for use as a carry gun. While the price stretches the “affordable” definition to the breaking point, the WC SF series really are nice carry pistols for those who like a concealable 1911 pattern pistol.
Charles, thank you for watching and commenting. I really like the EDC X9, so I looked into the X9s. Unfortunately, it was, and still is, way outside my budget. Now, if I can find someone close by who is willing to loan one to me for a week or so.....
No arguments. I’m a Dan Wesson fan; have a couple myself. Top two are the Specialist and the Valkyrie “CCO” (both 45). If I could’ve found a Valkyrie CCO in 9, I would likely be carrying it but since it was not around at the time, the Staccato C (new style) became my carry gun. As my eyes age the ability to add a red dot became a positive point in favor of the “C” (may have been a blessing in disguise that I couldn’t find a Valkyrie 9). I’ve done some work to the grip on the “C” to make it better for me. It shoots very well, so no regrets (though I’d still like a small funnel).
Phil, thanks again for watching and commenting. I searched for an affordable Valkyrie CCO for a while, but gave up when I couldn't find one that fit the budget. Just curious, what did you do to the Staccato grip? And stay tuned for the "What I'm Carrying Now" video. It may still be the Dan Wesson, or it may be........
@@RidersRange I’ll definitely be watching to see what’s at the range and what is the carry gun. For now, the Staccato C is using Talon grips that I made for it from a sheet. Eventually I may stipple it but the Talon grips are doing well for me.
@@philp411 I see that Talon only makes their grip package for the full-size STI/Staccato pistols, not the C. I have considered just using skateboard tape, but haven't taken the time to experiment.
@@RidersRange the sheet worked pretty well.
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Thanks. Here's to a new and improved 2022.
Congrats on 10k subs!
Thanks for watching and helping me reach that goal.
Thanks! 🇺🇸🇮🇹
Class channel and this guy shoots great
Thank you for watching and for your kind comment.
I’m a recent subscriber, but have really enjoyed the channel. I am in the process of determining what my preferred carry pistol is also.For years, it has been a Glock 26 with Pierce magazine extensions, which is as small a pistol as I can manage due my very large hands. I would prefer a full size grip or an abbreviated grip with a full size equivalent magazine extension; however, as you know, they become hard to conceal in a strong side, 8:00 o’clock position (left handed), holster, and I’m not an Apendix guy. So, the search continues…I’m about to pull the trigger on a Sig P365 XL with 15 round mags and see if that works for me.
On another note. I’m curious what you take as a retired LEO is on speed vs accuracy in a defensive situation. I’m not super fast from the concealed draw (realistically 2.75 draw to first shot) but I am very particular about accuracy, which I stress in training my church’s Security Team (NRA Certified in Basic Pistol and 11 years an IDPA Competitor [retired]. I get a little perturbed with all the emphasis on speed by virtually all of todays trainers. I’m slow, never will be fast, but I can be very accurate, which I believe to be more important in a defensive situation arising in a crowded environment. What are your thoughts…maybe you could offer a video covering this subject matter?
Gregg, thank you for watching and subscribing.
I carried a G27 on and off duty for the final 10 years of my career and, like you, it had a Pearce grip extension. I also don't do the Appendix thing. I just can't wrap my head around where the muzzle points, especially considering that most striker-fired guns are from 85% to 100% cocked without a safety. So I carry at 3:30 IWB and OWB. I have medium-size hands, but the P365 and 365XL grip frame is too small in circumference for me. I added a Hogue HandAll grip sleeve and it works much better. (I believe I did a video or two on that.) I suggest you try before you buy.
As to speed vs accuracy, I always believe you can get speed if you have accuracy first, but you can never get accuracy if you have speed first. As a former PPC shooter, where being able to hold a sub-6" group at 50 yards, double-action, was a requirement to be competitive, I believe in accuracy. I also teach my students that "slow is smooth, and smooth is fast", so shoot slow quickly. I still challenge myself on my 8" and 6" plates at 50 yards with almost every gun I shoot, but I try for a sub-two second draw to first shot at 12 yards and closer, with that shot anywhere in the "A" zone of an IDPA target. And I like to be able to run a six-pack of 8" plates at 12 yards in under 5 seconds. Not blindingly fast, but hitting 8" plates at 12 yards requires a modicum of both speed and "okay" accuracy.
I hope this helps.
Thanks for the feedback, I do appreciate it!
By the way, when you run your 6-pack of plates at 12 yards is that from open carry or concealed?
@@gregggibson3109 that depends. When I'm working with a new gun for a review, I usually run the plates from a high ready. I regularly do draw to first shot practice with my carry gun using the G-Sight ELMS, practicing from concealment with whatever I'm wearing that day, then live fire from concealment on those rare occasions when I hit the range with my carry gun, rather than a gun I'm evaluating.
@@RidersRange Thanks once again, I have enjoyed the channel, keep it up!
I can't say it's a bad choice :). Any choice that works is good. I agree with you, I just need one with a bobtail. OH NO, that means I have to buy more 1911's, didn't see that coming, lol. I never worry about weight, I love heavy guns and hit better with them. I also favor steel frame. Maybe why 1911 is my favorite... take care, hopefully I'll see you on Wednesdays
Craig, I never thought about weight when I had hips. Somewhere along the line those disappeared, so now the extra weight requires suspenders and/or constantly adjusting the trousers.
@@RidersRange terrible tricks life plays on us
Dan Wesson makes a great pistol, and, in any case, one shouldn't quarrel with another man's first choice for their concealed carry. That said however, one could argue that a reviewer of Mr. Rider's standing in the reviewing community might consider something with a little more bling, even if it is for concealed carry. Congratulations on 10k subscribers!
There are working tools and show "tools". The closest I can come to a BBQ gun (not that I go out to BBQ) is either my Ruger NSW (beautiful pistol from Part 13 of the Series), or my Heavy Armor Division Trump .45, and that one I would have to be careful where I wear around southeast Michigan.
Thanks for watching and commenting - AND for helping me get to 10K.
Dan Wesson's... Good Call ';-)
Thanks for watching.
Have you tried any of the 1911's from Fusion Firearms? If so what do you think of them.
Jeff, I almost bought a Fusion Freedom CCO instead of the Dan Wesson PM-C. I still look at Fusion on occasion, but haven't found one at the right price at the right time. Thanks for watching.
@@RidersRange Thank you for the quick response and thanks for all the good information in your videos.
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Too rich for my blood.
Thanks for watching. These aren't for everybody, but did you happen to check my definition of "affordable" on my website?