The most annoying thing about the Kumo situation is the dev's obnoxious and childish "can has cheezburger" speak when badgering people to steal their intellectual property.
his messages can be summed up as: can I pweese has your assets?? ｡ﾟ( ﾟ^∀^ﾟ)ﾟ｡ my game runs sooooo bad with mine (￣▽￣*)ゞ you don't want my game to be baaad, do you? (＞ω＜)
This. Like good God you are a grown man in like 2018?? That kind of speak isn't even aged enough to be brought back nostalgically or whatever. Red flag for mental instability lol
The worst part about the KUMO debacle is that the game was about to come out when it all fell apart. Steam keys had already been sent out to backers. All it sounds like it needed was just to replace the stolen assets with original ones.
He was someone that overestimated his ability to develop a game. The reason he didn't replace the stolen assets with original ones is because he did have the talent to make the original ones. It seems that a lot of stolen assets were in it, not just the trees and based off the post about fps drop with his which is why he was begging for someone else's he didn't have the talent. Basically, he thought up a game, wanted to make it but found out he could make it the way he wanted and it wouldn't run smoothly so he grabbed as many other assets to put into it thinking he could change details like colors to hide it.
Wow that and the messages of him asking other devs, nay, BEGGING other devs for assets like they alone can allow others to use assets from a game they're working on was the biggest face palm from this vid
The funniest part of this video was learning that nobody had actually played Kumo to verify what the trees looked like and they were just defending it based on an image.
Seriously, the moment they started defending the guy based on mismatched screenshots my first thought was why the hell no one had ripped the assets and compared them yet.
Tequila works are still d bags though... just becouse the dev is a worthless human being does not meen Tequila works are not d bags for going after an indie project over trees. Both sides are evil people.
I remember backing a keyboard once and once the project went over it’s goal like 10 times over, the developer decided to go to China. He said he went to visit the factory that was making the keyboards but I commented that his photos look more like he took the funds and went on a vacation. He replied with accusations that I was smearing his good name. Months later, he sent backers a pouch to keep the keyboard and that was it. $100 for a fabric drawstring pouch. Once a year he wrote an update saying the project was still on the go. In between these updates, he opened a furniture business. With our money. Finally he shut down the campaign and said he’d be slowly refunding backers. He never did. Of course their were those odd backers that said they didn’t want a refund but I did since he said he would. On the flip side, I once backed a campaign that didn’t make its goal but the developer contacted me and I ended up being sent one of the prototypes.
I mean, if they said "give us 300 mil and ten years" I'd be inclined to believe they could do it. Though of course they always ask for something like 300k with a release date next year lol.
Just wanted to point something out about the Shining Empire bit, near the start. The reason Sonic 2 HD didn't get taken down was because it was going to be released for free. Sega's usually pretty good about fan projects as long as they aren't for profit.
I understand an indie developer going through personal struggles. It's a very stressful undertaking to make a game of any kind of decent quality. We had similar experiences during the development of The 13th Doll. We initially planned to release the game way back in 2008. We didn't run our kickstarter until we'd already made the game once in Macromedia Director, then we switched to Unity, then we got burned out. Every member of the team considered walking away at some point or another, even after we were funded. We just kept coming back after a break since we knew we had an obligation to get it done and out there. We were all thoroughly sick of the project by the time we finished, we just wanted it over and done with, so we kept pushing. It ended up taking us 5 years after the Kickstarter funding, but we got there. Ultimately, it's not acceptable to just walk away with a lame excuse by that point. If you HAVE to cancel the project, you owe your backers more than that.
My biggest issue with the whole Kumo situation, is that he never actually told us what the hell happened with the trees. Like, did he rip them from Rime and paste 'em into his game? Did he get them from someone on discord? Why did he steal 'em instead of at least just using them as a reference to make his own? Like, the whole big stink happened because of those trees, and not once did he explain anything about them.
Like if it really was just that there was a misunderstand that he thought he could use them and he couldn’t that’d be fine, but he kept lying and lying about them! It shows he knew he was doing something wrong
Tequila works are still d bags though. just becouse the dev is a worthless human being does not meen Tequila works are not d bags for going after an indie project over trees. Both sides are evil people...
Probably because he was afraid that he would get sued by the trust still holding the rights for the person first penning the correct spelling of this word.
For the record for people that might not know, Streets of Rage Remake did the stupid mistake to ask for money to get the remake funded and Shinning Force Online is obviously an MMORPG which it implies that some sort of monetary gain was going to happend down the line, and Sega while is pretty lax with fan games and fan proyects the only thing that asks for their fans is that its not for monetary purposes.
@@MourningButterfliesSega didn't even needed to get envolved to make that fall apart. But i think it probably escaped their radar because it's a less direct way to ask for money (as opposed to Kickstarter), and didn't have any in-game monetization.
@@MourningButterflies The worst of the fanbase gotta have somewhere to hang, so you always let the Uberincels have a space to live and not taint the rest of the fanbase
@@tmw3489 Omens wasn't great for a lot of reasons, and the developers are pretty gross and whiny people, but I still liked it better than Mania and its Sonic 4 hating devs. 🤷🏻♂️ And that one is official. Sure, they may be better people, but I don't want a classic purist who dislikes Sonic 4 and worships momentum physics in the same building as the development of an official Sonic game. Plus Omens has a better soundtrack, better bosses despite also having bad bosses, and a better story despite not having a great story. One thing Mania has over Omens is the voice acting, outside of the main villain Exiled who sounds great. Omens also has some pretty good levels amongst some awful ones, just like Mania. At the end I don't care if anyone steals something digital by copying it because things without limited quantities should be free and the copyright laws are a scam. I also don't care how one makes their money. I believe art should not belong to anyone. Omens is better than Mania but still isn't great. Forces was better than either. I like Forces better than Frontiers. Sure it's super easy, but the levels and the music and the new play style, it everything I want out of a Sonic game. If only there were more bosses and longer levels it would be my favourite in the series, but those remain to be Shadow the hedgehog and Rush Adventure. I really don't give a darn about popular opinion.
I remember that Kumo dev vs Tequila Games. I forget who looked at the assets, but they ARE the same assets. You can tweak stuff to make them different, but code doesn't lie.
I remember the whole KUMO saga, and it was one of many reasons I stopped contributing to any Kickstarters sometime in 2017. I think my success rate (games that shipped AND were good) was less than 50% at that point.
I gave up on Kickstarter too. Some projects I backed were finished and were good, while others suck or are left abandoned either because the creator gave up on them or just vanished without a trace. And then there are the ones that haven't been released yet or are still in development hell for one reason or another, so I have yet to make a final judgement on those projects.
When I was a child my favourite video game company was Rare. So the only crowdfunding where I have given money is Yooka-Laylee. I got the Steam key on the release day but I have never played it because everyone told how disappointing the game was. But I am happy that my name is on the end credits. :D
The problem is that on kickstarter (or any fundraising site really) is that the products are either still or not yet in development. Thing is that cancellation, failure, abandoning, overdue release can all naturally result from any development. But when that happens most consumers don't notice it as they haven't bought anything. Investors on the other hand will see their profit margins shrink or loose all their money all together. As a crowdfunder you are essentially an investor. And any investor knows that losing your investment is a risk that is always there.
the thing that confuses me most about the whole KUMO tree situation is: who goes out of their way to rip a tree model from an obvious competitor? you can just download public domain ones or buy a tree for like a buck or two on most asset stores. and it's not like those trees were in any way special to require that shape or anything, just set dressing. like, how's ripping them out of another game easier (or less risky :P) than just google? 0.o
The Kumo guy is so narcissistic. Notice how it's a "I need to take time off because I hate making the game" thing instead of a "people paid me to do something for them, so it doesn't matter whether I want to or not". Imagine if your plumber just walked out halfway through his job because he decided he wasn't enjoying it anymore.
Come off it, it's not like anyone gave him enough money to make an entire game anyways. I mean, the dude wasn't living off of that cash or anything. He plagiarised a few items in the game. Nobody ever even bothered to check whether the gameplay was similar or not. He also sounds very young, so honestly, why bother with it? He asked to use the assets and they were given to him. If I was just starting up, I might use a few assets as well, because let's be honest, a tree is hardly game breaking. I think that they could have just let it slide given the real low ball value of the thing.
@@berenscott8999 So copyright infringement is fine if you are poor or something? His incessant begging for free stuff from other people who actually work?
@@TorIverWilhelmsen Dude, he wasn't infringing on copyright, fact, he asked to use assets and they were handed over voluntarily. Now, afterwards, they request him to stop using the assets, and that's the point where he should have had his own assets. But, he's not doing anything shitty for having used assets in this way, freaking out was shitty, but lets be honest, I think all of this could have been avoided if perhaps a better line of communication had of occurred between the developer and himself. When it comes to legal threats they have a way of disturbing some people. Often a legal threat will cause a massive blow out. And none of that was worth it, over tree's, over tree's dude. He was given them. Honestly, I'm a software developer myself, and I've gone solo on my current project for over a decade, and I have had people steal various incarnations of my software, and it doesn't really bother me until some of them tried to sell it onto someone else, or refuse to give credit. I don't do it for the money, it's to me just for the achievement boner. And this issue sort of explains how I feel about people in suits who essentially manage to screw over everyone in the process of development. We're all passionate about what we do, I'm not starting a kick starter over it, because I like it, and I will continue to give it out. Never made a dim from it, but soon I feel the potential for a big payout, which will go towards my children and never see my pocket.
Reminds me of that one "American Dad" episode where Rodger is a "pretend psychologist." At the very end, halfway through his client, he says "I don't wanna pretend to be a psychologist anymore! I wanna pretend to be a fireman!"
Not much was lost from Kumo dying. There's already an MMO that's the exact same thing except free called Sky: Children of Light. They even got it onto switch.
I'm never backing another video game. "I'm quitting due to mental health issues" seems to be the constant easy-out. They know that because mental health issues is such a delicate and personal topic, people won’t press them for details. But you’d think that every third indie dev was having a complete mental breakdown if you listed to all these guys. And I get that development is stressful and a lot of these people just get in over their heads, but I very much doubt that this is happening this often where these “issues” are more than “I was super psyched to make this, I was passionate, and now I’m bored/burned out/lost interest.” And that’s understandable…but *I’m* bored at work every day. *I’m* burned out at my job. *I’ve* lost interest in it. I do it because it’s WORK. I’ve got a *job* to do. It’s not always *going* to be fun. If these developers had started a project on their own, did it on their time with their money, shared it with the world during development, and then lost interest? Fair play. Under those circumstances, you can SAY “this was supposed to be fund and it’s become an obligation.” But the moment you start taking people’s money for something…now you’re committed. Now it IS an obligation. Now you DO owe it to people to see it through because you promised you would and you took people’s money.
I have a rule that I'll only back video games that are designed for retro consoles (an example being Copper Jacket, a top-down shooter made for the NES that just released this year). In these cases, the hardware is well established in regards to what can and cannot be done, plus physical releases can be done quite cheaply compared to disks or Switch carts.
When you have a mental health crisis and can't do your job anymore (which happened to me), you're most likely going to lose it. Your boss will have to find a new employee and that's that. It is way more complicated when you have already been funded. People will lose their money they gave you. I understand a delay if you need time for treatment, but quitting it entirely will cause financial damage to those who supported you.
Or, instead of never backing another video game, you could become better informed about what to look for in a good pitch and what red flags to be on the lookout for. I mean if I see Harebrained Schemes doing another KS I'll back them. They're a professional dev team that's done several successful KS already and produced several fantastic games. If I see a single dude promising me the moon for only $50,000, I'll laugh and walk away.
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As someone who played Rock and Roll Racing, I really like the idea of them making a remake of the old. I understand that they don't own the IP rights, but let's be honest, those IP rights are sitting in limbo with nobody doing anything. They have proven that it's a good idea to make a new version of the game. I think that I have no issue with them doing this, they definitely put a lot more work into the game, probably more work went into their code then it did the original game, if you think about it. It's always going to be much harder to remake something when you don't have access to source code, then it ever will be to have made the game in the beginning. They were paying homage to the original, and they were making something new from something old, a time honoured tradition which is how human innovation occurs in the first place. The IP holders are clearly assholes. Original game is amazing.
@@sophitiaofhyrule Copying is a right not a wrong. Somehow the new generation has been fooled. This isn't how things used to be. Piracy was considered the norm not the exception. Digital data is infinitely producable and shouldn't even be monetisable. Huge companies would love to have you pay more for digital, infinitely copyable (except not when you do it!) carrots than you would real world carrots, or clothes, etc. Monetisation of digital data impoverishes the entire world. Nobody is gonna afford all this.
Knowing Blizzard, they would microtransaction the SH!T out of that game (and treat their employees badly and make a "progressive" character to hide their sh!tty actions)
As soon as you put up the title image of Kumo I immediately said out loud "That's Rime." Of course the controversy would then be that he directly stole assets from the game Rime.
I severely doubt the Kumo guy got those assets legitimately, even if he was send them there's just no way that any higher-ups gave the okay for him to use them in a commercial project.
32:27 Probably cause her TH-cam channel has a graveyard, named "Fuck around and find out memorial" dedicated to everyone who tried and failed to false flag her. With digital homicide's corpse hung up by the entrance.
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yea he stole the tree assets. i dont care if it was planned or not. you took peoples money and gave them your own mental instability and no product. you should be talking to therapists not people who have given you money to give them a product. its super unprofessional. get help. dont drag everybody into your thing.
I dont doubt the Kumo guy was genuinely struggling mentally, but he either needed to continue working and push through, hire someone else to help, or refund the backers. That is what you have to do when you've made a kickstarter campaign. Kickstarter had been around long enough by the time he started his project for him to understand how difficult it would be.
I really understand how hard it is to struggle with mental illness and I couldn't go on working at one point myself. But with most regular jobs, you're not payed in advance so there isn't much of a damage for your boss. If you have already taken people's money, it seems wrong to keep it and just give up. Why don't you just take off some time for treatment instead of quitting entirely?
I got kickscammed once. Set of custom dice with real flowers embedded in them. I ordered 2 sets for $31. The campaign ended up with double what it asked for, about $40k. It went thru the whole process regular updates with actual images of sets. Then when it came time to actually ship the sets, only a hundred people out of of 1100 got theirs. I did some research and have the campaign makers dox. I havent released them, but i know who he is, his personal address and his contact info. It was the only kickstarter ive been scammed on but it really irritated me, dude was able to walk away stealing $40k with no repercussions.
Witches and Wizards Dice did a dice campaign that ended up being a scam, too. Ended up making $200,000, too! Then, they kept making up excuses about medical issues and weather delays before releasing a screaming rant about how the backers were all heartless assholes for harassing them, which was the point everyone sat up and went "?????" Turns out none of the supposed harassment was ever found, no photos of sets they claimed had been finished were ever shown, and they just disappeared off the face of the Earth. I have often thought about DJS's videos afterward, but there are so many scammy dice kickstarters, apparently, I figured it wouldn't be worth his attention.
I travel quite a bit and I brought up to my wife the other day in an airport how I noticed I haven't seen those robo-suitcases in about the last 2 years. Guess that fad dipped out real quick.
When people ask for such a small amount it's usually because they need money to buy something or a holiday. They think that with it being such a small amount the attention will be small aswell
@@scottydu81 I know a butcher who used to do that. Old women would go in and buy some bacon or whatever just to tell him there was a spelling mistake on his board
99.99% sure you mean "reset era" and not "re-cetera", cant stand the rag, but i mean, their logo even has the two words, in different colors to make it easy to notice its two words and not one.
Slopes had been hyping of this Amico video for a while now. Let's hope he doesn't delay the video to eternity and blame all of the problems on "gaming racists"
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I could've sworn I commented on the topic before: AREAL. I remember seeing it the first days the campaign started, and while I was initially pleased upon reading its description, I immediately noticed the red flags when the preorder / backer tier bonus pictures they used for ingame assets to obtain scrolled in sight: were straight out pulled off of the STALKER Wiki. At the time, I was learning to mod the original games, so I recognized them immediately. I was going to back it, but then felt something was really REALLY off about the whole thing. Especially multi-platform, on a brand new engine, which would take years to make. Metal Gear Solid V made its own engine (essentially a really well optimized & souped-up Unity copycat) and it took years to put it in practice. The Wii-U version was the giveaway for me, as I knew it had several issues with less common engines (Sonic Boom ROL I'm looking at you). I've heard from a dev friend ages ago the Wii-U actually virtual-machines all games that aren't first-party for security reasons (similar to how the Wii tried to lock out core system functions in vain). I knew so many multiplats couldn't be done. Unreal Engine 4? Unity? Sure. Custom-made, who does that anymore, today? Even if this project was not malignant, it was too ambitious to succeed ever.
I love this channel so it’s made me extra cautious about funding on kickstarter. I waited all this time and only just funded my first project in December and wouldn’t you know it we got scammed. They defrauded 50 of us out of $150+ each and then kept giving excuses and giving us the run around and now here it is almost May and none of us got what we paid for. It’s crazy 🤦🏼♂️
For me personally, as soon as I saw the "tree debate" photos I immediately was on Tequilla's side. Those looked exactly alike, just turned. The people why claimed that it "wasn't the same tree" don't know how perspective work
While someone could be fooled by a low budget RPG (wouldn't be that hard if you used purchased/stolen assets and using fiverr, not saying it would be good, just feasible), anyone who claims to be making a low budget MMORPG should be considered a scammer at the outset.
24:58 as long as the people that wanted a refund actually got one I don't see too many problems with this all ordeal the trees assets might have been stolen but considering that this was a demo and not the final version..... a little Sus but not a deal breaker. His tweet could be seen as a misunderstanding of the whole situation and ofc we never know what happened behind doors so it's all hearsay. To me this just seems like a passion project that took off and the creator only then realised how hard the "legit" work actually is and lost motivation again considering he did offer refunds I really don't see any real I'll intent he didn't ask anyone to attack tequila and I assume if he kept going he would have got a legit tree asset and removed the stolen one as requested
Flying, multi-player servers, an emotional journey in the sky, white outfits that glow in the light? Tbh sounds a lot like TGC's next game after journey, Sky lol. I don't think the open beta for Light Awaits was out as of 2017 though, so the stolen assets probably pointed the right way.
25:44 Well, this is unexpected! It's like that Superman: TAS where Darkseid got his butt beaten by Superman on his own planet. When Superman declared that they were free, the citizens simply took Darkseid away. (Shocked Pikachu face) 38:12 This even sounds fake!
what annoys me about kickstarter scammers using the mental health card is like. i know what its like to be so anxious and stressed that it affects you physically. but if youre claiming that after doing obviously shady shit, thats your own fault.
everyone talking about the tree asset rip off and ignoring that the kumo trailer was almost shot for shot a replica of thatgamecompany's journey trailer 😭😭
Everytime I bring it up to people I feel like it was some fever dream because nobody knows what I'm talking about. I still have my SNES copy and, yes, the soundtrack was something else.
I don't know if it was intentional or not but the ending song (Dorris Day by DJ Williams) lifting the full bassline from Kabaluerê on a video about plagiarism is pretty funny to me.
yeah i'm not sure how to even feel about it cause on one hand it's the backer's money so they can do whatever they want and i dont think the dev was the absolute worst person. like there's worse kickstarter situations out there, but also it felt a little slimy
Honest just feel bad for the Motor Rock people, it sounds like they were just making a neat fan remake lol. In the same vein as Sonic Mania I would think
Motor Rock rocks. Blizzard sat on that IP for so many years and then gets huffy when someone else fills in that niche, fuck 'em. MR devs even complied with requests that certain audio assets be removed; but that wasn't good enough apparently. The worst of it is when they officially "re-released" RnRR as a shitty old demo version with all the fantastic cover tunes (you know, what made it Rock and Roll Racing to begin with?) totally hacked out. They have *ZERO* respect for their classic games and people who still enjoy them. They said Warcraft 2 was too old and boring to remaster - before relenting and letting a more vanilla re-release go onto GOG. Then they shit things up in the same series further with WC3 Reforged. Again, fuck 'em.
Damn, I went into the wrong line of work. Instead of lying to and stealing from people and being given hand over fist, I joined the military destroyed my soul and broke my mind & body, then got cancer. I'm over $4mil in the red, and can't even get the benefits that I earned... I am a terrible liar anyway.
Mostly because I really enjoyed other people reaping the fruits of my labor. So, I figured that I would be a Army Ranger and destroy my shoulder and knee joints, and catch a couple bullets fighting for the freedoms I enjoyed... But I Mostly did it to ensure people still had the freedom to make me miss natural selection, whilst using those freedoms, that were paid for by so many, to be a condescending edge-lord. Sadly, the Majority of those sheltered summer children have never been hungry, or considered helping anyone but themselves. I honestly had a dirt poor upbringing and had enough abuse. I enlisted at 17 yrs old, drank all the kool-aid and jumped out of good aircraft to find someone to shoot at me. But even my textbook boring reason is better than not doing anything but failing at witty replies online sad and virginal.
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$6000 on plane tickets to attend some convention?! Either he had to cross the world, or he travelled in luxury. Looks to me that the man gave himself the great life on the backers money while stealing or begging for other developers' work.
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I’m curious if Paprium’s PS4 (and other next gen versions) will release in 2023. It’s scheduled like so. I actually regret not backing it, i would have taken the risk….
If you have enough people plagiarize something, you can start a genre. Like Minecraft clone... Tho, I understand the difference between openly being inspired and giving your take on something, and just ripping it off lol
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Oh my god am i glad you talked about fur fun, that whole ordeal was insane, an absolute clusterfuck of controversy and spanish speaking TH-camrs couldn't stop talking about how much of a scam the game was, it was hilarious and DalasReview is an asshole anyway so i don't feel bad for him.
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Isn't this just a plagiarized FTL?
Which was the one where the guy gets his finance director to apologise in a netflix style documentary vid?
The most annoying thing about the Kumo situation is the dev's obnoxious and childish "can has cheezburger" speak when badgering people to steal their intellectual property.
his messages can be summed up as:
can I pweese has your assets?? ｡ﾟ( ﾟ^∀^ﾟ)ﾟ｡ my game runs sooooo bad with mine (￣▽￣*)ゞ you don't want my game to be baaad, do you? (＞ω＜)
This. Like good God you are a grown man in like 2018?? That kind of speak isn't even aged enough to be brought back nostalgically or whatever. Red flag for mental instability lol
@@Gruesome420 i can haz cheezborger pl0x?
And here I figured it was just because Kumo looked quite boring.
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The worst part about the KUMO debacle is that the game was about to come out when it all fell apart. Steam keys had already been sent out to backers. All it sounds like it needed was just to replace the stolen assets with original ones.
He was someone that overestimated his ability to develop a game. The reason he didn't replace the stolen assets with original ones is because he did have the talent to make the original ones. It seems that a lot of stolen assets were in it, not just the trees and based off the post about fps drop with his which is why he was begging for someone else's he didn't have the talent.
Basically, he thought up a game, wanted to make it but found out he could make it the way he wanted and it wouldn't run smoothly so he grabbed as many other assets to put into it thinking he could change details like colors to hide it.
I'm betting that the trees were not the only stolen assets.
the character reminds me of sky:coh somewhat... might be just me, however
Wow that and the messages of him asking other devs, nay, BEGGING other devs for assets like they alone can allow others to use assets from a game they're working on was the biggest face palm from this vid
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The funniest part of this video was learning that nobody had actually played Kumo to verify what the trees looked like and they were just defending it based on an image.
Seriously, the moment they started defending the guy based on mismatched screenshots my first thought was why the hell no one had ripped the assets and compared them yet.
I was figuratively screaming at resetera to download the damn assets and compare. Only one guy there had the idea to do it.
It's not that surprising. Resetera is known for sharing a collective braincell with their terrible takes
@@midwestbox
"The tree is problematic!"
Tequila works are still d bags though... just becouse the dev is a worthless human being does not meen Tequila works are not d bags for going after an indie project over trees. Both sides are evil people.
I remember backing a keyboard once and once the project went over it’s goal like 10 times over, the developer decided to go to China. He said he went to visit the factory that was making the keyboards but I commented that his photos look more like he took the funds and went on a vacation. He replied with accusations that I was smearing his good name. Months later, he sent backers a pouch to keep the keyboard and that was it. $100 for a fabric drawstring pouch. Once a year he wrote an update saying the project was still on the go. In between these updates, he opened a furniture business. With our money. Finally he shut down the campaign and said he’d be slowly refunding backers. He never did. Of course their were those odd backers that said they didn’t want a refund but I did since he said he would. On the flip side, I once backed a campaign that didn’t make its goal but the developer contacted me and I ended up being sent one of the prototypes.
Whenever a small studio of nobodies say they want to make an mmorpg you know they're either full of it or in over their head
I mean, if they said "give us 300 mil and ten years" I'd be inclined to believe they could do it.
Though of course they always ask for something like 300k with a release date next year lol.
@@niedas3426😂😂
Just wanted to point something out about the Shining Empire bit, near the start. The reason Sonic 2 HD didn't get taken down was because it was going to be released for free. Sega's usually pretty good about fan projects as long as they aren't for profit.
I understand an indie developer going through personal struggles. It's a very stressful undertaking to make a game of any kind of decent quality. We had similar experiences during the development of The 13th Doll. We initially planned to release the game way back in 2008. We didn't run our kickstarter until we'd already made the game once in Macromedia Director, then we switched to Unity, then we got burned out. Every member of the team considered walking away at some point or another, even after we were funded. We just kept coming back after a break since we knew we had an obligation to get it done and out there. We were all thoroughly sick of the project by the time we finished, we just wanted it over and done with, so we kept pushing. It ended up taking us 5 years after the Kickstarter funding, but we got there. Ultimately, it's not acceptable to just walk away with a lame excuse by that point. If you HAVE to cancel the project, you owe your backers more than that.
Oh God, Macromedia Director.
Nah, backers are making a bet. Then they get pissy when it goes bad...
My biggest issue with the whole Kumo situation, is that he never actually told us what the hell happened with the trees. Like, did he rip them from Rime and paste 'em into his game? Did he get them from someone on discord? Why did he steal 'em instead of at least just using them as a reference to make his own? Like, the whole big stink happened because of those trees, and not once did he explain anything about them.
Like if it really was just that there was a misunderstand that he thought he could use them and he couldn’t that’d be fine, but he kept lying and lying about them! It shows he knew he was doing something wrong
He used them and didn't make his own because he has very little talent, clearly.
@@kells4315plll
Tequila works are still d bags though. just becouse the dev is a worthless human being does not meen Tequila works are not d bags for going after an indie project over trees. Both sides are evil people...
Robin Hood: To the trees!
Merry Men: which ones, Tequila or Kumo?
Robin Hood: They are the same Trees!
Notts Sheriff: A Rime has been committed, I am outraguisied.
Yooo y'all 😂😂
"PLAGIAISED"
That was a small typo. For those who don't know, he meant "Plagliased"; As in all of those games turned into opera singing clowns.
Pagliacciased
I thought that was My Singing Monsters.
Probably because he was afraid that he would get sued by the trust still holding the rights for the person first penning the correct spelling of this word.
"but doctor, I'M an indie dev!"
@@goldensloth7 Just say you have a degree in Dildotronics and you're a Grandmaster in The Chess Club.
For the record for people that might not know, Streets of Rage Remake did the stupid mistake to ask for money to get the remake funded and Shinning Force Online is obviously an MMORPG which it implies that some sort of monetary gain was going to happend down the line, and Sega while is pretty lax with fan games and fan proyects the only thing that asks for their fans is that its not for monetary purposes.
*Points at Sonic Omens being behind a Patreon paywall*
What about this one?
@@MourningButterfliesSega didn't even needed to get envolved to make that fall apart. But i think it probably escaped their radar because it's a less direct way to ask for money (as opposed to Kickstarter), and didn't have any in-game monetization.
@@MourningButterflies The worst of the fanbase gotta have somewhere to hang, so you always let the Uberincels have a space to live and not taint the rest of the fanbase
@@tmw3489 Omens wasn't great for a lot of reasons, and the developers are pretty gross and whiny people, but I still liked it better than Mania and its Sonic 4 hating devs. 🤷🏻♂️
And that one is official. Sure, they may be better people, but I don't want a classic purist who dislikes Sonic 4 and worships momentum physics in the same building as the development of an official Sonic game.
Plus Omens has a better soundtrack, better bosses despite also having bad bosses, and a better story despite not having a great story. One thing Mania has over Omens is the voice acting, outside of the main villain Exiled who sounds great.
Omens also has some pretty good levels amongst some awful ones, just like Mania.
At the end I don't care if anyone steals something digital by copying it because things without limited quantities should be free and the copyright laws are a scam. I also don't care how one makes their money. I believe art should not belong to anyone.
Omens is better than Mania but still isn't great. Forces was better than either. I like Forces better than Frontiers. Sure it's super easy, but the levels and the music and the new play style, it everything I want out of a Sonic game. If only there were more bosses and longer levels it would be my favourite in the series, but those remain to be Shadow the hedgehog and Rush Adventure.
I really don't give a darn about popular opinion.
I remember that Kumo dev vs Tequila Games. I forget who looked at the assets, but they ARE the same assets. You can tweak stuff to make them different, but code doesn't lie.
I remember the whole KUMO saga, and it was one of many reasons I stopped contributing to any Kickstarters sometime in 2017. I think my success rate (games that shipped AND were good) was less than 50% at that point.
I gave up on Kickstarter too. Some projects I backed were finished and were good, while others suck or are left abandoned either because the creator gave up on them or just vanished without a trace. And then there are the ones that haven't been released yet or are still in development hell for one reason or another, so I have yet to make a final judgement on those projects.
When I was a child my favourite video game company was Rare. So the only crowdfunding where I have given money is Yooka-Laylee. I got the Steam key on the release day but I have never played it because everyone told how disappointing the game was. But I am happy that my name is on the end credits. :D
@@Pehmokettu You should give it a try and make your own judgement. I did, and I still liked it.
@@Pehmokettu I had a lot of fun with Yooka-Laylee!
The problem is that on kickstarter (or any fundraising site really) is that the products are either still or not yet in development. Thing is that cancellation, failure, abandoning, overdue release can all naturally result from any development. But when that happens most consumers don't notice it as they haven't bought anything. Investors on the other hand will see their profit margins shrink or loose all their money all together.
As a crowdfunder you are essentially an investor. And any investor knows that losing your investment is a risk that is always there.
the thing that confuses me most about the whole KUMO tree situation is: who goes out of their way to rip a tree model from an obvious competitor? you can just download public domain ones or buy a tree for like a buck or two on most asset stores. and it's not like those trees were in any way special to require that shape or anything, just set dressing. like, how's ripping them out of another game easier (or less risky :P) than just google? 0.o
The Kumo guy is so narcissistic. Notice how it's a "I need to take time off because I hate making the game" thing instead of a "people paid me to do something for them, so it doesn't matter whether I want to or not". Imagine if your plumber just walked out halfway through his job because he decided he wasn't enjoying it anymore.
Come off it, it's not like anyone gave him enough money to make an entire game anyways. I mean, the dude wasn't living off of that cash or anything. He plagiarised a few items in the game. Nobody ever even bothered to check whether the gameplay was similar or not. He also sounds very young, so honestly, why bother with it? He asked to use the assets and they were given to him. If I was just starting up, I might use a few assets as well, because let's be honest, a tree is hardly game breaking. I think that they could have just let it slide given the real low ball value of the thing.
@@berenscott8999 So copyright infringement is fine if you are poor or something? His incessant begging for free stuff from other people who actually work?
Not to mention his backers got a bad case of Stockholm syndrome
@@TorIverWilhelmsen Dude, he wasn't infringing on copyright, fact, he asked to use assets and they were handed over voluntarily. Now, afterwards, they request him to stop using the assets, and that's the point where he should have had his own assets. But, he's not doing anything shitty for having used assets in this way, freaking out was shitty, but lets be honest, I think all of this could have been avoided if perhaps a better line of communication had of occurred between the developer and himself.
When it comes to legal threats they have a way of disturbing some people. Often a legal threat will cause a massive blow out. And none of that was worth it, over tree's, over tree's dude. He was given them.
Honestly, I'm a software developer myself, and I've gone solo on my current project for over a decade, and I have had people steal various incarnations of my software, and it doesn't really bother me until some of them tried to sell it onto someone else, or refuse to give credit.
I don't do it for the money, it's to me just for the achievement boner. And this issue sort of explains how I feel about people in suits who essentially manage to screw over everyone in the process of development. We're all passionate about what we do, I'm not starting a kick starter over it, because I like it, and I will continue to give it out. Never made a dim from it, but soon I feel the potential for a big payout, which will go towards my children and never see my pocket.
Reminds me of that one "American Dad" episode where Rodger is a "pretend psychologist." At the very end, halfway through his client, he says "I don't wanna pretend to be a psychologist anymore! I wanna pretend to be a fireman!"
Not much was lost from Kumo dying. There's already an MMO that's the exact same thing except free called Sky: Children of Light. They even got it onto switch.
Wasn't that robot suitcase in Red Dwarf?
"I bet they've sent her to the wrong bloody airport!?"
Plagiarism. Name of the game mate. Name of the game.
I'm never backing another video game. "I'm quitting due to mental health issues" seems to be the constant easy-out. They know that because mental health issues is such a delicate and personal topic, people won’t press them for details. But you’d think that every third indie dev was having a complete mental breakdown if you listed to all these guys. And I get that development is stressful and a lot of these people just get in over their heads, but I very much doubt that this is happening this often where these “issues” are more than “I was super psyched to make this, I was passionate, and now I’m bored/burned out/lost interest.” And that’s understandable…but *I’m* bored at work every day. *I’m* burned out at my job. *I’ve* lost interest in it. I do it because it’s WORK. I’ve got a *job* to do. It’s not always *going* to be fun.
If these developers had started a project on their own, did it on their time with their money, shared it with the world during development, and then lost interest? Fair play. Under those circumstances, you can SAY “this was supposed to be fund and it’s become an obligation.” But the moment you start taking people’s money for something…now you’re committed. Now it IS an obligation. Now you DO owe it to people to see it through because you promised you would and you took people’s money.
I have a rule that I'll only back video games that are designed for retro consoles (an example being Copper Jacket, a top-down shooter made for the NES that just released this year). In these cases, the hardware is well established in regards to what can and cannot be done, plus physical releases can be done quite cheaply compared to disks or Switch carts.
When you have a mental health crisis and can't do your job anymore (which happened to me), you're most likely going to lose it. Your boss will have to find a new employee and that's that. It is way more complicated when you have already been funded. People will lose their money they gave you. I understand a delay if you need time for treatment, but quitting it entirely will cause financial damage to those who supported you.
Obviously if you refund everyone that is a different story though
"A family member died...goodbye"
Or, instead of never backing another video game, you could become better informed about what to look for in a good pitch and what red flags to be on the lookout for. I mean if I see Harebrained Schemes doing another KS I'll back them. They're a professional dev team that's done several successful KS already and produced several fantastic games. If I see a single dude promising me the moon for only $50,000, I'll laugh and walk away.
Dalas is hated by many people in the hispanic community actually, is one of those "I'm right you're wrong!!" youtubers that only wants attention!!
Greetings from Mexico Slope's!!
Dallas it's the Spanish onision
@@Neroba So he also grooms children?
So he's Latino Logan Paul
I'm very surprised there's no (enforceable) law or for holding Kickstarters liable when they lie to their backers.
It's Con Artistry at its worst.
As someone who played Rock and Roll Racing, I really like the idea of them making a remake of the old. I understand that they don't own the IP rights, but let's be honest, those IP rights are sitting in limbo with nobody doing anything. They have proven that it's a good idea to make a new version of the game.
I think that I have no issue with them doing this, they definitely put a lot more work into the game, probably more work went into their code then it did the original game, if you think about it. It's always going to be much harder to remake something when you don't have access to source code, then it ever will be to have made the game in the beginning.
They were paying homage to the original, and they were making something new from something old, a time honoured tradition which is how human innovation occurs in the first place. The IP holders are clearly assholes. Original game is amazing.
100% agree. Copyright laws kinda suck tbh, they only help big corporations
@@sophitiaofhyrule Copying is a right not a wrong.
Somehow the new generation has been fooled. This isn't how things used to be. Piracy was considered the norm not the exception. Digital data is infinitely producable and shouldn't even be monetisable.
Huge companies would love to have you pay more for digital, infinitely copyable (except not when you do it!) carrots than you would real world carrots, or clothes, etc.
Monetisation of digital data impoverishes the entire world. Nobody is gonna afford all this.
Knowing Blizzard, they would microtransaction the SH!T out of that game (and treat their employees badly and make a "progressive" character to hide their sh!tty actions)
I hate plagiasm.
I hate plagiasm.
I hate wearing boots they are uncomfortable
I was gonna leave him a comment telling him he'd spelt it wrong, but I can't spell it either, so I couldn't!
I was gonna leave him a comment telling him he'd spelt it wrong, but I can't spell it either, so I couldn't!
🤣😂🤣
As soon as you put up the title image of Kumo I immediately said out loud "That's Rime." Of course the controversy would then be that he directly stole assets from the game Rime.
I severely doubt the Kumo guy got those assets legitimately, even if he was send them there's just no way that any higher-ups gave the okay for him to use them in a commercial project.
32:27
Probably cause her TH-cam channel has a graveyard, named "Fuck around and find out memorial" dedicated to everyone who tried and failed to false flag her. With digital homicide's corpse hung up by the entrance.
Thank God for Them!
Wait.........HER????? LOL Oh my God I'm glad I ditched that losers channel years ago.
Yep JSS has amazing lawyers on retain just ask Gilson B Pontes
damn strait or rather damn pan
Don't think I ever commented before but I've been subbed for years. Just wanted to say your videos are always so well done! Always happy to see one pop up in my notifications. Keep up the good work. Merry Christmas/Happy New Year to you and yours.
yea he stole the tree assets. i dont care if it was planned or not. you took peoples money and gave them your own mental instability and no product. you should be talking to therapists not people who have given you money to give them a product. its super unprofessional. get help. dont drag everybody into your thing.
"Gone to a farm to play with other atmospheric games" Holy choice of words, Kumo Dev!
I dont doubt the Kumo guy was genuinely struggling mentally, but he either needed to continue working and push through, hire someone else to help, or refund the backers. That is what you have to do when you've made a kickstarter campaign. Kickstarter had been around long enough by the time he started his project for him to understand how difficult it would be.
I really understand how hard it is to struggle with mental illness and I couldn't go on working at one point myself. But with most regular jobs, you're not payed in advance so there isn't much of a damage for your boss. If you have already taken people's money, it seems wrong to keep it and just give up. Why don't you just take off some time for treatment instead of quitting entirely?
I got kickscammed once. Set of custom dice with real flowers embedded in them. I ordered 2 sets for $31. The campaign ended up with double what it asked for, about $40k. It went thru the whole process regular updates with actual images of sets. Then when it came time to actually ship the sets, only a hundred people out of of 1100 got theirs.
I did some research and have the campaign makers dox. I havent released them, but i know who he is, his personal address and his contact info. It was the only kickstarter ive been scammed on but it really irritated me, dude was able to walk away stealing $40k with no repercussions.
When did that happen?
Witches and Wizards Dice did a dice campaign that ended up being a scam, too. Ended up making $200,000, too! Then, they kept making up excuses about medical issues and weather delays before releasing a screaming rant about how the backers were all heartless assholes for harassing them, which was the point everyone sat up and went "?????" Turns out none of the supposed harassment was ever found, no photos of sets they claimed had been finished were ever shown, and they just disappeared off the face of the Earth. I have often thought about DJS's videos afterward, but there are so many scammy dice kickstarters, apparently, I figured it wouldn't be worth his attention.
End of 2020 was the last time the creator posted. Then they vanished into thin air. People have messaged kickstarter etc, but they dont do shit.
it'd be funny if he sees this and recognises it but thieves don't like to confront their theft especially on a video about the subject
I travel quite a bit and I brought up to my wife the other day in an airport how I noticed I haven't seen those robo-suitcases in about the last 2 years. Guess that fad dipped out real quick.
When people ask for such a small amount it's usually because they need money to buy something or a holiday. They think that with it being such a small amount the attention will be small aswell
Misspelled plagiarised in the title Dan
Got you to click, didn’t it? It’s possible it’s deliberate.
@@scottydu81 I know a butcher who used to do that. Old women would go in and buy some bacon or whatever just to tell him there was a spelling mistake on his board
Maybe he didn't want to plagiarize the word plagiarize
🙄🤷🤦
It’s the British spelling
99.99% sure you mean "reset era" and not "re-cetera", cant stand the rag, but i mean, their logo even has the two words, in different colors to make it easy to notice its two words and not one.
Slopes had been hyping of this Amico video for a while now. Let's hope he doesn't delay the video to eternity and blame all of the problems on "gaming racists"
His mother is very proud.
I just want to take a moment to say I freaking love you and I don’t know how to express it enough. I’ve been binging your videos and they’ve been one of the few things to give me serotonin in these difficult times I’m dealing with. If it means anything from this random guy on the internet, you are awesome, your videos are awesome, everything about your channel is great and you genuinely seem like such a good person and you deserve unlimited amounts of success.
People asking for an Ouya port is like flat earthers asking NASA to take one of their "instruments" on board the next shuttle.
49 minutes of DJ Slope? That's some serious gourmet shit ☕
You like eating crap?
"Don't fucking Danny me, Larry"
I could've sworn I commented on the topic before: AREAL. I remember seeing it the first days the campaign started, and while I was initially pleased upon reading its description, I immediately noticed the red flags when the preorder / backer tier bonus pictures they used for ingame assets to obtain scrolled in sight: were straight out pulled off of the STALKER Wiki. At the time, I was learning to mod the original games, so I recognized them immediately. I was going to back it, but then felt something was really REALLY off about the whole thing. Especially multi-platform, on a brand new engine, which would take years to make. Metal Gear Solid V made its own engine (essentially a really well optimized & souped-up Unity copycat) and it took years to put it in practice.
The Wii-U version was the giveaway for me, as I knew it had several issues with less common engines (Sonic Boom ROL I'm looking at you). I've heard from a dev friend ages ago the Wii-U actually virtual-machines all games that aren't first-party for security reasons (similar to how the Wii tried to lock out core system functions in vain). I knew so many multiplats couldn't be done. Unreal Engine 4? Unity? Sure. Custom-made, who does that anymore, today?
Even if this project was not malignant, it was too ambitious to succeed ever.
Always love these videos, helps open our eyes to the scammy nature of some Kickstarters 😬 happy holidays Slope!
Kumo dev Gregg texts like a teenager from 2012 lol
"It's important now that people do not shoot at each other"
Vladimir Putin definitely did not write that.
Neither did Joe Biden: he's sniffing people's hair.
Your use of the phrase "turned a new leaf" was DEADLY! 🤣
I love this channel so it’s made me extra cautious about funding on kickstarter. I waited all this time and only just funded my first project in December and wouldn’t you know it we got scammed. They defrauded 50 of us out of $150+ each and then kept giving excuses and giving us the run around and now here it is almost May and none of us got what we paid for. It’s crazy 🤦🏼♂️
For me personally, as soon as I saw the "tree debate" photos I immediately was on Tequilla's side. Those looked exactly alike, just turned. The people why claimed that it "wasn't the same tree" don't know how perspective work
While someone could be fooled by a low budget RPG (wouldn't be that hard if you used purchased/stolen assets and using fiverr, not saying it would be good, just feasible), anyone who claims to be making a low budget MMORPG should be considered a scammer at the outset.
Loved the phantasy star online ep 1+2 music in this kick scammers video, thanks Slope for bringing more cool to the kick scammer verse :)
24:58 as long as the people that wanted a refund actually got one I don't see too many problems with this all ordeal the trees assets might have been stolen but considering that this was a demo and not the final version..... a little Sus but not a deal breaker.
His tweet could be seen as a misunderstanding of the whole situation and ofc we never know what happened behind doors so it's all hearsay.
To me this just seems like a passion project that took off and the creator only then realised how hard the "legit" work actually is and lost motivation again considering he did offer refunds I really don't see any real I'll intent he didn't ask anyone to attack tequila and I assume if he kept going he would have got a legit tree asset and removed the stolen one as requested
Am I the only one who’s noticed Sloops is just plagiarizing himself lately by just uploading old content again instead of making new content?
That's not the first time I heard of trees being an issue in games. Twas the era of the problematic trees.
I Erd things about said Trees.
All those backers with their hearts out at the end of that Kumo dev part is very touching, but also breaks my heart.
Flying, multi-player servers, an emotional journey in the sky, white outfits that glow in the light?
Tbh sounds a lot like TGC's next game after journey, Sky lol. I don't think the open beta for Light Awaits was out as of 2017 though, so the stolen assets probably pointed the right way.
Dev: Well that was a complete disaster. Here's a refund.
Backers: Nah...
That's.. Not usually how this goes ^^;
2:59 This cracks me up, I can just hear an underwhelming "twaaaaa" noise come out of that party toy. The face really makes it.
25:44 Well, this is unexpected! It's like that Superman: TAS where Darkseid got his butt beaten by Superman on his own planet. When Superman declared that they were free, the citizens simply took Darkseid away. (Shocked Pikachu face)
38:12 This even sounds fake!
and why the hell did it take people forever to just check the tree models.. Man faith is dangerous ..
what annoys me about kickstarter scammers using the mental health card is like. i know what its like to be so anxious and stressed that it affects you physically. but if youre claiming that after doing obviously shady shit, thats your own fault.
everyone talking about the tree asset rip off and ignoring that the kumo trailer was almost shot for shot a replica of thatgamecompany's journey trailer 😭😭
My jaw dropped when I heard the music from the Lawnmower Man game. That game (and its soundtrack) is probably the most underrated game of all time
Everytime I bring it up to people I feel like it was some fever dream because nobody knows what I'm talking about. I still have my SNES copy and, yes, the soundtrack was something else.
I don't know if it was intentional or not but the ending song (Dorris Day by DJ Williams) lifting the full bassline from Kabaluerê on a video about plagiarism is pretty funny to me.
Your ad is legit an amazing game. I played it a while back and when the bgm started it brought back so many memories.
You single handedly made all dislexics watching this sigh in relief
I’m dyslexic however I think there’s an R In that word dyslexia doesn’t remove letters
@@TheVioletBunny its either a typo or a "joke"
Ok but to be fair, Kumo's comments were definitely not all "I don't need a refund" Tons of ppl were pissed.
yeah i'm not sure how to even feel about it cause on one hand it's the backer's money so they can do whatever they want and i dont think the dev was the absolute worst person. like there's worse kickstarter situations out there, but also it felt a little slimy
Everytime I see the word "plagiarize" my brain summons the image of Herbert West from "Re-Animator"
Honest just feel bad for the Motor Rock people, it sounds like they were just making a neat fan remake lol. In the same vein as Sonic Mania I would think
Hmm I remember the kumo tree controversy being way older than it actually was
Loved Kim justice reading the letter from "Vladimir Putin".
Pixel Starships is a really fun casual game actually, and people's chat messages appear in space in the background
With KUMO I don’t think it was planned but he definitely took advantage of it.
I wonder how viable procedurally generated trees (using coordinates as a seed for the generator) would be in a game.
Apparently Kuno's kickstarter has an update from a month ago? Can't see what it is though because it's for backers only.
It was just a post about family health problems and that he was still committed to refunding all backers.
$100 in free Starbucks? No, $100 in free "Starbux"
Motor Rock rocks. Blizzard sat on that IP for so many years and then gets huffy when someone else fills in that niche, fuck 'em. MR devs even complied with requests that certain audio assets be removed; but that wasn't good enough apparently.
The worst of it is when they officially "re-released" RnRR as a shitty old demo version with all the fantastic cover tunes (you know, what made it Rock and Roll Racing to begin with?) totally hacked out.
They have *ZERO* respect for their classic games and people who still enjoy them. They said Warcraft 2 was too old and boring to remaster - before relenting and letting a more vanilla re-release go onto GOG. Then they shit things up in the same series further with WC3 Reforged. Again, fuck 'em.
Damn, I went into the wrong line of work. Instead of lying to and stealing from people and being given hand over fist, I joined the military destroyed my soul and broke my mind & body, then got cancer. I'm over $4mil in the red, and can't even get the benefits that I earned...
I am a terrible liar anyway.
uhm
The real question here is why'd you join the military?
Mostly because I really enjoyed other people reaping the fruits of my labor. So, I figured that I would be a Army Ranger and destroy my shoulder and knee joints, and catch a couple bullets fighting for the freedoms I enjoyed...
But I Mostly did it to ensure people still had the freedom to make me miss natural selection, whilst using those freedoms, that were paid for by so many, to be a condescending edge-lord. Sadly, the Majority of those sheltered summer children have never been hungry, or considered helping anyone but themselves.
I honestly had a dirt poor upbringing and had enough abuse. I enlisted at 17 yrs old, drank all the kool-aid and jumped out of good aircraft to find someone to shoot at me. But even my textbook boring reason is better than not doing anything but failing at witty replies online sad and virginal.
slopes always delivers good content.
Here's where I draw the line!
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31:30 I'm glad someone finally addresses that 😂
Omg I forgot about your channel! Used to binge watch your stuff all the time. So happy TH-cam put it on my recommendations again!!! Looking forward to binge watching it again!
That map behind you…I could swear I had that as a kid!
37:28 It's always interesting hearing Putin's actual reading voice, very different from his singing voice.
I spent that entire Kumo entry trying to remember the game it looked identical to…. Then you said Rime :)
He said Rime a sixth in
Yes?
Everyone calls plagiarism. When Overstory, Mugface and uncomfortably close cannibal siblings got removed it was just going too far.
"Yes our game is backed by an evil dictator, pls support us"
I love these long form videos. Thank you, Slope!
37:43 interesting words coming from a man who committed war crimes
$6000 on plane tickets to attend some convention?! Either he had to cross the world, or he travelled in luxury. Looks to me that the man gave himself the great life on the backers money while stealing or begging for other developers' work.
Hey, DJ SLOPE 😃!!! Thank you for another GREAT video, mate 🔥🍻!!! Weather you've got another coming out for Xmas, Marry Xmas and a Happy New Year, mate 🎩🎄🎅!!!
I’m curious if Paprium’s PS4 (and other next gen versions) will release in 2023. It’s scheduled like so. I actually regret not backing it, i would have taken the risk….
Thank god for James Stephanie Sterling
I hope he gets help for his delusions
@@oz_jones we are all hoping the same for you 🍻
I'm glad this helps you to cope with your dad.
While plagiarism is bad, I would really love someone to rip off the Jazz Jackrabbit since Epic obviously is not interested in making a new one.
If you have enough people plagiarize something, you can start a genre. Like Minecraft clone...
Tho, I understand the difference between openly being inspired and giving your take on something, and just ripping it off lol
Mincraft Was also a rip off of another game called Infiniminer
And Minecraft?
More people copied Minecraft, than people who copied the Infiniminer, so... That's why they're not a genre 😬
Even though it was first, Infiniminer was beaten in popularity by Minecraft. @do3807's point stands.
I'm a noobie unity developer - it would have been a couple of hours of work at most to replace those trees.
"Vladimir Putin likes my game" is definetely not the flex these devs think it is.
Just a side note: Putin isn't a president, he's a dictator ;)
its really sad seeing the former dev for Stalker : Clear Skies died in battle in Ukraine.
Never played rime but if it's anything like the cancelled kumo game then it looks pretty good to me
Hey, legit question….
The transition music…. Is it from Croc? I remember something similar near end game when you fight a big poop monster in Croc2….
No big deal btw, you just hardly ever hear that soundtrack, you use loads of retro tracks in your videos (which I love!), and every time I hear it I wanna play Croc2 😂
Seriously though, I usually don’t like this style of videos, but I actually love watching you. It’s more down to earth, like a conversation instead of just a massive info dump 😁
Oh my god am i glad you talked about fur fun, that whole ordeal was insane, an absolute clusterfuck of controversy and spanish speaking TH-camrs couldn't stop talking about how much of a scam the game was, it was hilarious and DalasReview is an asshole anyway so i don't feel bad for him.
I like how a video about plagiarized games is sponsored by a creator of one