All this can be done inside a computer simulation by plugging in the variables, of the plane structure, weather, wind speed, age of the materials, fuel, ect ect. All tied to a accurate physics engine 911 can be recreated and results determined, quite accurately,
God Damnit! We have detailed physicx simulations! use the 1.5 mio to run thousands of simulations and then take the mean and determine if it's plausible... such a waste of money.
Could've bought Johnny a house for $150,000 used $50,000 for his rehab, $20,000 to get him a good car, remodel the house, fully fit it out, good wardrobe etc and then inflated all the values and kept over $100k for themselves. Yes, it would've still been scammy, but a hell of a lot better than what actually happened.
The worst part of the Daniel Perez video isn't even the children screaming, it's when they go silent and start quietly sobbing in fear of him after he tells them they better shut the f up. Absolutely heartbreaking.
I feel sorry for the kids. My wife and me decided to not have children, because we are already stressed with our business and like to travel to isolated nature. Neither of us has problems with agressio and we have a very nice house, but our lifestyle is unfit for children. But when i see things like this, it really upsets me. Only people which have the time, space and especially the mental strenght and calmness to properly raise their children should become parents.
Agreed, tbh I thought Daniel Perez was gonna be the rootable underdog that succeeds after so many failures until the video progressed, but it's disgusting he's such an abusive person.
That adoption campaign must've been written by someone that thought they had a great solution to a real problem, but has the empathy of a nuclear warhead. The foster care system is broken, but this campaign is not the way to fix it, for sure.
@@BrimarBrimar-gv5lc I mean, I guess. Back when it was new my BS alarm was going off, I guess due to my years of enjoying satire. In fact, I am someone who plays at Poe's Law a lot online.
@@BrimarBrimar-gv5lc and thank god we don't have thought crimes... Oh wait, God claims we do... Shit... The only one's horribly ANYTHING, are the horribly gullible people who fell for that obvious prank...
I personally feel sorry for Jonny and don't even blame him for going along with the scam. The man was homeless and was being presented with the promise of a home and a possible job. I think anyone in his situation would have told whatever lie they were given if it got them off the streets.
@@shanedavid4060 "He was actually in on it." I know. He was also ripped off by the couple who decided to spend his money on themselves instead of giving it to him. Had they just stuck to the deal, none of them would have ended up in prison and he'd have a home.
All they'd have to do is read up on what happened when El Al Cargo Flight 1862 (whihc was a 747-400 cargo plane) crashed into a 20 story apartment block in amsterdam after suffering a total control failure after take off in 2008.
Yeah, you're looking at around $60m for the Boeing. I'd imagine also for this to be legitimate for people, you'd also need a replica skyscraper, not "a structure similar" to the towers. So that'll be an extra $3b.
God. The Daniel Perez one started out like in a hilarious way given he tried to make some crowdfunding games with copyright infringement only for it to take an incredibly dark turn about the man’s incredibly dark and insane history. I didn’t expect that at all.
Agreed, I thought he was gonna be someone we can root for and wanting to actually see him succeed. He turned out to be such an abusive person from the progression of the video.
I love how Blake's mother spent like half of her campaign story humblebragging about herself and what an awesome mom she was. "my motherly instinct" "me not backing down"
Good to see justice done on that woman faking her kids death. Plain and simple thats a despicable act. I just don't understand how people can be so greedy thats a new low.
With the 9/11 thing you mention it would be hard to find a matching building but miss out a huge other issue. Where is there a building anywhere even remotely appropriately sized for this test that is far enough from civilization that it would be safe to crash an airplane into it? This isn't a controlled building demolition where you just have to clear out the surrounding block or two. You would need it to be miles away from anyone or any building to avoid collateral damage.
Even if they could find such a building, how on earth does he expect 1.5 million dollars to be enough to buy the building? To say nothing of the plane. And that's not even getting into the meeting with the mayor... "Yeah, so, we're gonna fly this plane into a building. You cool with that?"
They would also need to full furnish it with the same desks, office equipment, and even have enough crash test dumbies to factor in the amount of people. That cost alone is astronomical the logistics are concerning if not impossible. Like how do you prevent collateral damage
i just arrived at my neighbor's house to help out and hang out when he answered the door GLUED to his TV, and I looked over and asked, "What movie are you watching?" literally as the 2nd plane collided. He didnt even look away as he said, "this isnt a movie. its happening right now."
@@Dargonhuman Damn i guess she thought Die Hard, was a bad movie then. Though for me i wasn’t even born yet i was put on this earth a year later pretty grim i know.
@@joshshrum2764 Huh? She thought it was a bad movie because it was such an unthinkable thing to happen that it couldn't be real, but if the news footage was a movie, it would have been an awful movie. Die Hard had exactly nothing to do with any of that, and in fact, she enjoyed that movie a lot because it's a good movie, so I'm confused where you even got that comparison from?
The Daniel Perez one was insane. I remember when he made his first post on r/boardgames about his idea for that horrible GoT card game, he didn't get much help other than being told he'd never get the license to it. And then things turned dark....
The adoption one is truly terrible As it Makes actual orphans and actual good modern adoptive patents look like a total joke Honestly disgusted by all of these kickstarters as they really tell a lot about people.
I'm glad the three stooges got what was coming to them, but I think Kate got a better deal. She willingly took part in the scam and the lavish lifestyle but when all hell broke loose she set up her boyfriend to take the fall and came up with sob story on TV. I think she should get around the same amount of punishment honestly, regardless of the plea deal. I'm hoping her life after prison is enough punishment to make up for it.
The SMSs seen here indicate that she was definitely a willing participant, so it does seem kinda fishy that one person gets 4 years and another upwards of 30.
@@TheBlackSeraph "The SMSs seen here indicate that she was definitely a willing participant, so it does seem kinda fishy that one person gets 4 years and another upwards of 30." That's plea deals for you.
I personally feel sorry for Jonny, he benefited the least from the scam and he was the homeless one. I don't even blame him for going along with it. He was promised a home and possibly a job out of it. He could have used that money to pay for drug rehab. But no, yet another bunch of woke Tories exploiting the poor because they're not deserving enough.
Kickscammers is one of those few shows that's good enough that even when I realize a new release is a clip show, I'm not disappointed and enjoy the ride.
If you believe the Government side of things, the Investigation aka Conspiracy side has a subsection that believes that the Planes were cg'd in and that Remote Detonation Charges were used instead. A hypothesis which sadly does *seem* to have some supporting evidence to it. Hence the persistent question of "was it really planes? Or RDC?"
It's one thing that Tinder even adopts this "Swipe Left, Swipe Right" ideology to adults, but to do that to a kid or baby? "nah, too lightskinned. eh, too dark. too needy..." Wtf is wrong with humanity nowadays? :')
Nowadays? It'd be even worse if something like this had been introduced before our time. People were far less tolerant of other colors, cultures, religions, etc. so they would probably enjoy something like this.
I still remember 9/11, I was in 9th math class. My teacher had just pulled up the tv to watch the news after the first plane hit. Not even like 3 minutes later the second plane hit.
I was home with some kinda 'flu (Corona 01 or sumfin' I think they called it back then), and my Mum phoned me from work after the first 'plane hit to tell me what was going down and I saw the second one smash into the other tower. My uncle's wife was across the river in New Jersey selling a house and witnessed it with her own eyes, fuckin' mental.
My family and I were in Vegas on vacation. My mom saw it on the news first and thought it was a really bad movie until she started changing channels and it was on every single one.
I was at work. I walked out of my lab and saw the entire shipping department watching the TV and upset. I asked them what was happening just as the 2nd plane hit.
I love it when former turned current addicts give us former addicts a bad name 'cuz not a lot of ppl are opened minded & have that few bad apples ruined the bunch mind span when there's good in any group of people
Probably because it's not a 'few bad apples', but rather addicts in general are terrible people. Anyone saying otherwise has not spent much time around them.
@@stevenschnepp576 As a former homeless (15+ years) and a social worker with the homeless and addicts for over 20+ years after that... you are wrong. And @Chiefavagef0x837 good on you mate, I hope you are doing well.
"The bleeding got worse, he started losing weight and passing out on me, my motherly instinct knew something was wrong". I really don't think you need "motherly instinct" to know that losing weight, passing out, or BLEEDING, means something is wrong!!!
she bragged about the scam from the start said she was keeping the money and then plays a fucking victim?? and OF COURSE the courts believe it because there is absolutely no equality in the court system. disgusting.
Johnny got really screwed over in all this. He was offered an out to his hell life from some "friends", took it, then had it taken away from him and got punished for it. He shouldn't be punished for being accessory to a crime from a set of laws that let what happened to him beforehand be legal. (Homelessness in America has no justification outside of greed, he was just playing the game they forced him to.) Hope he gets clean and is still able to rebuild some kinda life. (Though, 15 years is honestly real harsh for a different kind of addict to get too. Obviously he and Kate still did a lot wrong and deserve some punishment, but that's half his god damn life up until now right there.) (Honestly that story is just a microcausm of so many of the problems with the united states society.)
Oof to the 9/11 one...and $1.5 million isn't even close anyways to recreating all the things in that scenario (where the hell are you getting the building? What building of that size are you finding in an area that will ensure it doesn't hurt other people? You're also neither buying nor building one for that amount. And yes, as stated, there are just way too many factors that would need to be recreated to truly get it right. I think the whole thing is horribly insensitive and tasteless anyways. What the fucking hell is wrong with people...😖) To the mother who faked her son's death, I hope she lost custody of him. She faked a funeral for him...that is greed beyond greed to really look at your baby boy and conceptualize their funeral for the sake of milking more money out of people. I ask again, what the fucking hell is wrong with people... To Daniel Perez, beating and screaming at his children and the wife aiding in the horrible scams, I hope neither ever see those children again as well until they're adults and they only see their parents to give them the finger. I remember Philip DeFranco playing the audio briefly when it happened and...ugh. That was just sick. For the third time, I ask, what the fucking hell is wrong with people? And to the last story, while it does seem Kate was being abused by her boyfriend (it sound like he became physical with her in that chilling audio), which makes him a foul piece of shit, she was no saint either and those flippant text messages detailing about how she's going to tell this and that lie makes her a terrible person as well, and she had zero room to snap at her boyfriend like he made her do it. Oh really? He made you buy those purses? The expensive trips? Go on multiple talk shows? Buy that BMW? The fact that she used domestic abuse as some gross excuse for the theft of other people's money is baffling and upsetting. What the fucking hell is wrong with these people? As for Johnny, while stealing is still terribly wrong, at the absolute least he truly was homeless, so a lie of this kind is understandable. It's still a horrible thing to do, but at least I can see a homeless person trying to get themselves together with a stunt like this. With everything just spoken about, Johnny is laughably the least scummy person of the video.
on the 9/11 redux, there is no way they could afford to purchase the plane for the crash test and that's before you get into the costs of rigging the plane for the test and hiring the chase plane and crews for both planes. Throw in the cost of the building and clean up after the test and your looking at upward of half a billion dollars not that i think the FAA would ever permit such a test.
In these recompilation videos, maybe it would be a good idea to put a subtitle under each entry with the title/upload date of the video each segment originally appeared. That would make lines like "to end this video" (15:48) feel not as strange.
The other problem with 9-11 redux, 1.5 million is not even close to enough to get anywhere near accurate. Off hand the Boeing 757 out of the box would be like a million dollars alone, and my guess is the radio control would be far more sophisticated that a RadioShack kit and therefore significantly more expensive. Also, the furniture and what not in the offices probably costs at least 2 million at thrift store and garage sale prices. You're probably looking at 15+ million if you wanted to do that right and not breed more conspiracies.
The thing about the 9/11 incident is we kinda knew what would happen. The buildings were designed to withstand the then-largest plane in service at the time they were being built. The planes that did hit the towers were larger than this and thus the damage was too much for the building to withstand.
That wasn't what that Kickscam was talking about, in the wake of 9/11 several camps emerged for one reason or another under two banners: Pro-Government which supports the Government's statements on what happened, vs. Pro-Investigation, also called Pro-Conspiracy by their detractors. PI obviously in the opposite camp from PG and believe the Government was either involved, orchestrated it or stood to profit from the event and thus stood down and let it happen. The Kickscam sought to prey on peoples desire for answers as to whether or not the Government did it by claiming to be trying to replicate and test the event to prove one side or the other correct. It was a sickening Kickscam aiming to take advantage of both Victims and Investigators alike.
1: Aw shit, here we go again. Let's be frank, the plane crashed in the building, the support above went unstable due to the plane breaking some support beams, and both of them collapse like a Jenga tower. There, I saved you a long-winded conspiracy theory about jet fuel and steel beams. 2: Things are better left the way it is. This ain't UBER or Amazon. In the end, it's downright awful. 3: This is straight up evil. 4: I remember this guy... Yeah, all the flexible goals won't get him anywhere, but a few bucks taken... And then his unprofessional parenting happens.
Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows your first point is baseless and solely opinion. I challenge you to perform even some rudimentary research on the topic. If you're honest, you'll conclude anything but your initial statement.
@@Write-Stuff Anyone with a modicum of intelligence and knows even the basics of construction can reach the conclusion that crashing several tons of fully loaded and fueled airplane into a building at top speed will be very unhealthy for the building. It's this little thing called "physics", you should go do some research on it before chastising your more intelligent peers about researching things.
@@Write-Stuff Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that skyscrapers have fucking support beams running all the way through them and that if you slam something big and hard into it and it ends up buried halfway in there it's probably made the structure extremely unstable, and the lower it is the more unstable it is. Jesus fuck, I learned this shit when I was 14 watching Demolition Experts on Nat Geo. It's not quantum epigenetics or rocket surgery!
@@neoqwerty So we're just going to ignore the fact that these towers were built specifically to withstand aircraft collisions? Got it. The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
@@Write-Stuff the impact removed the fire proofing from the steel beams, the burning jet fuel expanded the floor beams causing them to sag and eventually collapse. Stop doing your half assed research of Facebook.
Something tells me you're definitely not going to like Paul's next Kickstarter. "Let's release a Coronovirus in the middle of Wuhan's labs, and see how that impacts the world".
@@ccricers Sorry you're right. "We'll use quantum computing with only a 50 percent chance we'll destroy our universe with every attempt." "But that's not how quantum computing works." "I'll make work that way!"
The Pay it Forward one got me. I bought it hook line and sinker. I didn't donate, thankfully, but I would have. And then the cracks started to appear. By the end, I was so disappointed with humanity.
Ah yes, just what everyone whats to know when being sold an idea, that it is "technically feasible", not that the person selling the idea can do it, just that it is technically possible that somebody could. related to that, you know when someone says "12 tubes of blood" they are trying to emotionally manipulate you, '12 tubes' sounds a lot worse than '12 blood tests'
Adoptly was a prank to see how much they could get, apparently they had intended on ending the campaign early and refunding the backers, but it was suspended first.
It's kind of bullshit that the girl who got to spend the cash and live the life was able to plea and blame it all on her ex. Even if it was his idea she went along with it and also benefitted from it so she should be punished accordingly. Such bullshit
Saw the second one hit live too. Had just walked back from shops with my mother and my father asked to put the TV on to see if cricket was showing. Saw the news running, wondered wtf was this and then bam, live number two strikes. We all thought it was a film because it didn't seem possible
@@mostmelon it looks like the work of high quality internet trolls using bullshit to measure stupidity in other humans.... These people are on a different level.
I noticed you used the Sonic Shuffle title screen music, good on you showing abit of attention to that underrated great Sonic game, even if it's just the title screen music
I always said if they just took the money quietly and moved away from the public eye, they would've easily enjoyed it, but ofc their greed and addictions made them go this way.
I remember 9/11 very well too. Happened the day before my birthday so we were making cupcakes for my class for the next day and my dad called us in a panic to turn on the news. I remember that second plane.
18:45 Not gonna lie, as someone who grew up with domestic abuse even the description of that video was enough to bring back horrific trauma for me, so I just skipped it.
Completely understandable and anyone who would dare judge you negatively for that is a douche. I grew up with an abusive stepdad so I can definitely relate to that segment being incredibly difficult to withstand.
As if $1.5 million would be enough to acquire a 767 and drone it up, never mind getting a building and another aircraft to follow it. Then there’s the slightly less obvious problem of his assertion that pilots could parachute out of a 767 at cruising altitude.
As a neutral party here I will point out for fairness sake that there is no consensus on that actually, as both experts (construction, demolition and ordinance use) and the families of the victims are on both sides of the divide, with some being Pro-Government and Pro-Planes vs. Pro-Investigation and Pro-No Planes. And unfortunately both sides have their own fair points.
Well i wasn't sold on the evil aspect immediately, 911 refux was more stupud then evil and the adoption app was more dark humor then evil but things got dark fast after those warm ups ☠
1.5 million is not even 1/10th the price of ONE 767 engine. Let alone the entire plane. Let alone the airgas. Let alone buying a building. Let alone buying all surrounding buildings that will be set on fire. Let alone the cleanup cost. Let alone the SECOND plane you need. Let alone the cost of the remote control systems and lastly, the crew. Absolutely laughable. For reference, a 767 costs 185 million minimum. Two of them would be double that (I doubt you can RENT a 767...). A tower half the mass of the WTC would cost 450-600 million dollars. As said, you would need to buy all the surrounding property unless you want to go to Gitmo for, you know, being a terrorist and raining glass/fire on active populated buildings. You would need to buy all buildings in a several block radius, costing anywhere from 800 million to 2 billion dollars depending on location. Then the cost of two sets of trained pilots willing to do this ridiculous stunt, one of which is willing to jump out of the 767 via the emergency escape (which has has a looooow chance of survival). Minimum you're looking at 2-3 million for hazard pay alone, as well as the crew necessary to fuel and make flight worthy two planes that size. Add to it 50,000 dollars for one load of airgas, times two, and a complicated remote control system at 500k. But yeah I'm sure 1.5 million will cover it. Why use advanced FEA tools when we can destroy perfectly good buildings?
It would be hilarious if daniel perez made a kickstarter to fund robbing 5 houses. One of the stretch goals is if you put in 50 dollars you get to be an accomplice
As an avid board-gamer, I remember the Perez crap like it was yesterday. Just insane. Another terrible thing, that was 100% NOT the company's fault (Their Kickstarter was actually pretty great) was what happened with Shaun Varsos of Van Ryder games, though the situation had nothing to do with scamming.
Lol the Adoptlly app seems like something a guy would think of while super high after watching the movie North where a kid travelled around auditioning prospective parents XD
Lenony snickets a series of unfortunate events is a better adoption story then this app xD. Its kind of a sad dark comedy movie but hey its tim burton!
Didn't you cover the Blake story last year? I thought you did but I might be mistaken. Either way, bravo my good sir you always come through in spectacular fashion. This is why I am a subscriber for life.
okay the one where the mother faked her kids illness that's legitimately a dangerous one because it starts out like that but to get more attention that she wants she will start legitimately harming her kid that's a mental disease I forget the name of it but that's something that happens quite a lot
I speak to this as a non north american, to this day you will find people my age that remember either seeing the 9/11 events live or being around in person, it's a traumatic fracture that lead to a lot of things happen, good and god awfull, wanting to recreate that in the real world again is way further beyond evil and tasteless
I just recently came.across this channel and I'm mad I didn't find it sooner. Really enjoy your content Slopes! Also nice touch with the Tomb Raider II music
Regarding the 9/11 redux, the original video can be found on the Retsupurae channel. Slowbeef and Diabetus riffed on the "canpaign" during a panel for RTX. It's even worse than the video shown here.
If you can simulate it enough in the video to do the computer graphics surely you can do the physics simulation and have the exact same result? Not that the foresnic investigators ALREADY DID THIS 20 YEARS AGO
The braindead Truthers will never accept a computer simulation, claiming the same cabal of conspirators who engineered the false flag attack would manipulate the simulations to support the "official lie" or some such nonsense. They'll never be satisfied with anything short of flying their own plane into an actual building to prove the physics once and for all.
@videoluver7 You're 100% correct - there's a large crossover between Truther and Flat Earthers and we've seen that same thing with Flat Earthers who keep accidentally proving the Earth is round but discount their own results.
They're at the point where physics simulations are INSANELY realistic, which could show everything to be true. Simple fact is, though, people will believe whatever nonsense they believe. We're currently in a plague where nearly 300x the number of people who died in 9/11 died, and we can't get people to take a simple shot. Logic has no sway on the stupid.
911 Redux would also probably need a lisence to operate and if hypotetically the real 911 was caused by bombs, I'm sure special forces make sure the event either doesn't happen, or will rig the model to behave like the real thing.
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All this can be done inside a computer simulation by plugging in the variables, of the plane structure, weather, wind speed, age of the materials, fuel, ect ect. All tied to a accurate physics engine 911 can be recreated and results determined, quite accurately,
God Damnit! We have detailed physicx simulations! use the 1.5 mio to run thousands of simulations and then take the mean and determine if it's plausible... such a waste of money.
Could've bought Johnny a house for $150,000 used $50,000 for his rehab, $20,000 to get him a good car, remodel the house, fully fit it out, good wardrobe etc and then inflated all the values and kept over $100k for themselves.
Yes, it would've still been scammy, but a hell of a lot better than what actually happened.
The worst part of the Daniel Perez video isn't even the children screaming, it's when they go silent and start quietly sobbing in fear of him after he tells them they better shut the f up. Absolutely heartbreaking.
I feel sorry for the kids. My wife and me decided to not have children, because we are already stressed with our business and like to travel to isolated nature. Neither of us has problems with agressio and we have a very nice house, but our lifestyle is unfit for children. But when i see things like this, it really upsets me.
Only people which have the time, space and especially the mental strenght and calmness to properly raise their children should become parents.
@@hyperturbotechnomike You're speaking like kids are always planned.
There are ways that a lack of children can be planned for though.
Agreed, tbh I thought Daniel Perez was gonna be the rootable underdog that succeeds after so many failures until the video progressed, but it's disgusting he's such an abusive person.
That adoption campaign must've been written by someone that thought they had a great solution to a real problem, but has the empathy of a nuclear warhead. The foster care system is broken, but this campaign is not the way to fix it, for sure.
It was a hoax.
@@Penoatle That's one of the rare case when it's somewhat reassuring to hear.
@@Penoatle but even so , some horrible bastard thought that up 😞
@@BrimarBrimar-gv5lc
I mean, I guess.
Back when it was new my BS alarm was going off, I guess due to my years of enjoying satire.
In fact, I am someone who plays at Poe's Law a lot online.
@@BrimarBrimar-gv5lc and thank god we don't have thought crimes... Oh wait, God claims we do... Shit...
The only one's horribly ANYTHING, are the horribly gullible people who fell for that obvious prank...
You know it’s an insane video when a kickstarter to fund a 9/11 physical recreation is not the most insane subject mentioned.
Yeah seriously. Having that as the first video im thinking "how they gunna top this?"
They did, in fact, top it
I personally feel sorry for Jonny and don't even blame him for going along with the scam. The man was homeless and was being presented with the promise of a home and a possible job. I think anyone in his situation would have told whatever lie they were given if it got them off the streets.
Completely agree
He was actually in on it.
@@shanedavid4060 "He was actually in on it."
I know. He was also ripped off by the couple who decided to spend his money on themselves instead of giving it to him.
Had they just stuck to the deal, none of them would have ended up in prison and he'd have a home.
Oh my bad.. Yeah, greed is a curse. No sympathy for the couple.
Sympathy evaporates when you learn a bit more about him.
A plane and a skyscraper for 1.5M dollars? Like... Keep it realistic at least. That won't cover either.
All they'd have to do is read up on what happened when El Al Cargo Flight 1862 (whihc was a 747-400 cargo plane) crashed into a 20 story apartment block in amsterdam after suffering a total control failure after take off in 2008.
Yeah, you're looking at around $60m for the Boeing. I'd imagine also for this to be legitimate for people, you'd also need a replica skyscraper, not "a structure similar" to the towers. So that'll be an extra $3b.
@@LuxFuxx
If you want something done right, do it yourself. I'ma set up a kickstarter for 3 060 000 000 usd...
@@midimusicforever don't forget to account for all those Tshirts the backers will get!
@@LuxFuxx
When I run off with 3 billion, I can afford to print some lousy t-shirts if needed. ;)
God. The Daniel Perez one started out like in a hilarious way given he tried to make some crowdfunding games with copyright infringement only for it to take an incredibly dark turn about the man’s incredibly dark and insane history. I didn’t expect that at all.
Agreed, I thought he was gonna be someone we can root for and wanting to actually see him succeed. He turned out to be such an abusive person from the progression of the video.
I love how Blake's mother spent like half of her campaign story humblebragging about herself and what an awesome mom she was.
"my motherly instinct" "me not backing down"
I WOULD say never attribute to malice what could be attributed to stupidity, but the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Good to see justice done on that woman faking her kids death. Plain and simple thats a despicable act. I just don't understand how people can be so greedy thats a new low.
With the 9/11 thing you mention it would be hard to find a matching building but miss out a huge other issue. Where is there a building anywhere even remotely appropriately sized for this test that is far enough from civilization that it would be safe to crash an airplane into it? This isn't a controlled building demolition where you just have to clear out the surrounding block or two. You would need it to be miles away from anyone or any building to avoid collateral damage.
Even if they could find such a building, how on earth does he expect 1.5 million dollars to be enough to buy the building? To say nothing of the plane. And that's not even getting into the meeting with the mayor... "Yeah, so, we're gonna fly this plane into a building. You cool with that?"
They would also need to full furnish it with the same desks, office equipment, and even have enough crash test dumbies to factor in the amount of people. That cost alone is astronomical the logistics are concerning if not impossible. Like how do you prevent collateral damage
@@ayajade6683 "I dunno, plane go boom lol"
iirc mythbuster trying to do this too
Plus I'm pretty sure you can get a good idea of what happens when a plane that big hits a building that big with things like, physics, and math...
i just arrived at my neighbor's house to help out and hang out when he answered the door GLUED to his TV, and I looked over and asked, "What movie are you watching?" literally as the 2nd plane collided. He didnt even look away as he said, "this isnt a movie. its happening right now."
My family were vacationing in Vegas and my mom thought it was a bad movie too until she realized it was on every channel.
@@Dargonhuman Damn i guess she thought Die Hard, was a bad movie then. Though for me i wasn’t even born yet i was put on this earth a year later pretty grim i know.
@@joshshrum2764 Huh? She thought it was a bad movie because it was such an unthinkable thing to happen that it couldn't be real, but if the news footage was a movie, it would have been an awful movie.
Die Hard had exactly nothing to do with any of that, and in fact, she enjoyed that movie a lot because it's a good movie, so I'm confused where you even got that comparison from?
I was at work. I walked out of my lab to see the entire shipping department watching their TV just in time to see the 2nd plane hit.
I'm getting comfy and I see "September 11th Redux"
The Daniel Perez one was insane. I remember when he made his first post on r/boardgames about his idea for that horrible GoT card game, he didn't get much help other than being told he'd never get the license to it. And then things turned dark....
That adoption app feels like it came straight out of Modern Family Guy.
The adoption one is truly terrible
As it Makes actual orphans and actual good modern adoptive patents look like a total joke
Honestly disgusted by all of these kickstarters as they really tell a lot about people.
I'm glad the three stooges got what was coming to them, but I think Kate got a better deal. She willingly took part in the scam and the lavish lifestyle but when all hell broke loose she set up her boyfriend to take the fall and came up with sob story on TV. I think she should get around the same amount of punishment honestly, regardless of the plea deal. I'm hoping her life after prison is enough punishment to make up for it.
The SMSs seen here indicate that she was definitely a willing participant, so it does seem kinda fishy that one person gets 4 years and another upwards of 30.
@@TheBlackSeraph "The SMSs seen here indicate that she was definitely a willing participant, so it does seem kinda fishy that one person gets 4 years and another upwards of 30."
That's plea deals for you.
I personally feel sorry for Jonny, he benefited the least from the scam and he was the homeless one.
I don't even blame him for going along with it. He was promised a home and possibly a job out of it. He could have used that money to pay for drug rehab.
But no, yet another bunch of woke Tories exploiting the poor because they're not deserving enough.
@@GeoNeilUK "woke Tories" - isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
My freaking jaw dropped open and stayed open the entire "swipe right" for adoptions segment. WTF?!? Thanks young lad. Good stuff.
Kickscammers is one of those few shows that's good enough that even when I realize a new release is a clip show, I'm not disappointed and enjoy the ride.
What? we DO know what happens when a plane like that flies into a building like that because we watched it happen... Twice.
If you believe the Government side of things, the Investigation aka Conspiracy side has a subsection that believes that the Planes were cg'd in and that Remote Detonation Charges were used instead. A hypothesis which sadly does *seem* to have some supporting evidence to it. Hence the persistent question of "was it really planes? Or RDC?"
It's one thing that Tinder even adopts this "Swipe Left, Swipe Right" ideology to adults, but to do that to a kid or baby?
"nah, too lightskinned. eh, too dark. too needy..."
Wtf is wrong with humanity nowadays? :')
Stupidity…in some cases and heartlessness in others ….
Nowadays? It'd be even worse if something like this had been introduced before our time. People were far less tolerant of other colors, cultures, religions, etc. so they would probably enjoy something like this.
@@rayq.7542 True
I still remember 9/11, I was in 9th math class. My teacher had just pulled up the tv to watch the news after the first plane hit. Not even like 3 minutes later the second plane hit.
I was home with some kinda 'flu (Corona 01 or sumfin' I think they called it back then), and my Mum phoned me from work after the first 'plane hit to tell me what was going down and I saw the second one smash into the other tower. My uncle's wife was across the river in New Jersey selling a house and witnessed it with her own eyes, fuckin' mental.
My family and I were in Vegas on vacation. My mom saw it on the news first and thought it was a really bad movie until she started changing channels and it was on every single one.
I was at work. I walked out of my lab and saw the entire shipping department watching the TV and upset. I asked them what was happening just as the 2nd plane hit.
I love it when former turned current addicts give us former addicts a bad name 'cuz not a lot of ppl are opened minded & have that few bad apples ruined the bunch mind span when there's good in any group of people
Probably because it's not a 'few bad apples', but rather addicts in general are terrible people.
Anyone saying otherwise has not spent much time around them.
@@stevenschnepp576 As a former homeless (15+ years) and a social worker with the homeless and addicts for over 20+ years after that... you are wrong.
And @Chiefavagef0x837 good on you mate, I hope you are doing well.
"The bleeding got worse, he started losing weight and passing out on me, my motherly instinct knew something was wrong". I really don't think you need "motherly instinct" to know that losing weight, passing out, or BLEEDING, means something is wrong!!!
I know right?
she bragged about the scam from the start said she was keeping the money and then plays a fucking victim?? and OF COURSE the courts believe it because there is absolutely no equality in the court system. disgusting.
Yep, manipulation at its worst purpose.
Wait, how the hell was he going to afford a 200 million dollar plane, convert it with a drone setup, AND buy a building for 1.5 million?
Truthers aren't know for their intelligence
Wait on eBay for a very broken “767 used (for parts)” for that sweet low $1.5 million price
Buy the building in Detroit.
That adoption app should be called Kinder
That's awful!
I love it!
@@Dargonhuman More German than awful.
@@TorIverWilhelmsen oh sorry...
Das ist schrecklich.
Johnny got really screwed over in all this. He was offered an out to his hell life from some "friends", took it, then had it taken away from him and got punished for it.
He shouldn't be punished for being accessory to a crime from a set of laws that let what happened to him beforehand be legal. (Homelessness in America has no justification outside of greed, he was just playing the game they forced him to.) Hope he gets clean and is still able to rebuild some kinda life.
(Though, 15 years is honestly real harsh for a different kind of addict to get too. Obviously he and Kate still did a lot wrong and deserve some punishment, but that's half his god damn life up until now right there.)
(Honestly that story is just a microcausm of so many of the problems with the united states society.)
Ah yes, I would love to have my name credited as to funding a recreation of terrorist attack. I can see no negative ramifications whatsoever.
Oof to the 9/11 one...and $1.5 million isn't even close anyways to recreating all the things in that scenario (where the hell are you getting the building? What building of that size are you finding in an area that will ensure it doesn't hurt other people? You're also neither buying nor building one for that amount. And yes, as stated, there are just way too many factors that would need to be recreated to truly get it right. I think the whole thing is horribly insensitive and tasteless anyways. What the fucking hell is wrong with people...😖)
To the mother who faked her son's death, I hope she lost custody of him. She faked a funeral for him...that is greed beyond greed to really look at your baby boy and conceptualize their funeral for the sake of milking more money out of people. I ask again, what the fucking hell is wrong with people...
To Daniel Perez, beating and screaming at his children and the wife aiding in the horrible scams, I hope neither ever see those children again as well until they're adults and they only see their parents to give them the finger. I remember Philip DeFranco playing the audio briefly when it happened and...ugh. That was just sick. For the third time, I ask, what the fucking hell is wrong with people?
And to the last story, while it does seem Kate was being abused by her boyfriend (it sound like he became physical with her in that chilling audio), which makes him a foul piece of shit, she was no saint either and those flippant text messages detailing about how she's going to tell this and that lie makes her a terrible person as well, and she had zero room to snap at her boyfriend like he made her do it. Oh really? He made you buy those purses? The expensive trips? Go on multiple talk shows? Buy that BMW? The fact that she used domestic abuse as some gross excuse for the theft of other people's money is baffling and upsetting. What the fucking hell is wrong with these people?
As for Johnny, while stealing is still terribly wrong, at the absolute least he truly was homeless, so a lie of this kind is understandable. It's still a horrible thing to do, but at least I can see a homeless person trying to get themselves together with a stunt like this. With everything just spoken about, Johnny is laughably the least scummy person of the video.
I’m pretty sure $1.5 million wouldn’t even cover the cost of the 767.
I laughed so hard when Larry Bundy Jr. came in
I got flashbacks when I heard the name Johnny Bobbitt Jr.
on the 9/11 redux, there is no way they could afford to purchase the plane for the crash test and that's before you get into the costs of rigging the plane for the test and hiring the chase plane and crews for both planes. Throw in the cost of the building and clean up after the test and your looking at upward of half a billion dollars not that i think the FAA would ever permit such a test.
I love the couple scammers of Pay it Forward. Ended up screwing themselves by their own greed.
The whole Taken series is based on a lying ‘true story’ so, maybe the homeless guy scam figured they could be the next franchise
Did they honestly try to claim that? That's hilarious
In these recompilation videos, maybe it would be a good idea to put a subtitle under each entry with the title/upload date of the video each segment originally appeared. That would make lines like "to end this video" (15:48) feel not as strange.
The other problem with 9-11 redux, 1.5 million is not even close to enough to get anywhere near accurate. Off hand the Boeing 757 out of the box would be like a million dollars alone, and my guess is the radio control would be far more sophisticated that a RadioShack kit and therefore significantly more expensive. Also, the furniture and what not in the offices probably costs at least 2 million at thrift store and garage sale prices. You're probably looking at 15+ million if you wanted to do that right and not breed more conspiracies.
$1.5 million to buy a plane, and (presumably) an abandoned skyscraper? Yeah... that doesn't seem like it'd pan out.
Yeah, they forgot to add a 0 and typoed the 5 by making it a 1.
The thing about the 9/11 incident is we kinda knew what would happen. The buildings were designed to withstand the then-largest plane in service at the time they were being built. The planes that did hit the towers were larger than this and thus the damage was too much for the building to withstand.
That wasn't what that Kickscam was talking about, in the wake of 9/11 several camps emerged for one reason or another under two banners: Pro-Government which supports the Government's statements on what happened, vs. Pro-Investigation, also called Pro-Conspiracy by their detractors. PI obviously in the opposite camp from PG and believe the Government was either involved, orchestrated it or stood to profit from the event and thus stood down and let it happen.
The Kickscam sought to prey on peoples desire for answers as to whether or not the Government did it by claiming to be trying to replicate and test the event to prove one side or the other correct.
It was a sickening Kickscam aiming to take advantage of both Victims and Investigators alike.
the homeless one is the most well known story in scammer history
1: Aw shit, here we go again. Let's be frank, the plane crashed in the building, the support above went unstable due to the plane breaking some support beams, and both of them collapse like a Jenga tower. There, I saved you a long-winded conspiracy theory about jet fuel and steel beams.
2: Things are better left the way it is. This ain't UBER or Amazon. In the end, it's downright awful.
3: This is straight up evil.
4: I remember this guy... Yeah, all the flexible goals won't get him anywhere, but a few bucks taken... And then his unprofessional parenting happens.
Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows your first point is baseless and solely opinion. I challenge you to perform even some rudimentary research on the topic. If you're honest, you'll conclude anything but your initial statement.
@@Write-Stuff Anyone with a modicum of intelligence and knows even the basics of construction can reach the conclusion that crashing several tons of fully loaded and fueled airplane into a building at top speed will be very unhealthy for the building. It's this little thing called "physics", you should go do some research on it before chastising your more intelligent peers about researching things.
@@Write-Stuff Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that skyscrapers have fucking support beams running all the way through them and that if you slam something big and hard into it and it ends up buried halfway in there it's probably made the structure extremely unstable, and the lower it is the more unstable it is.
Jesus fuck, I learned this shit when I was 14 watching Demolition Experts on Nat Geo. It's not quantum epigenetics or rocket surgery!
@@neoqwerty So we're just going to ignore the fact that these towers were built specifically to withstand aircraft collisions? Got it. The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
@@Write-Stuff the impact removed the fire proofing from the steel beams, the burning jet fuel expanded the floor beams causing them to sag and eventually collapse. Stop doing your half assed research of Facebook.
Something tells me you're definitely not going to like Paul's next Kickstarter. "Let's release a Coronovirus in the middle of Wuhan's labs, and see how that impacts the world".
The real world already has coronavirus, so I guess they’ll ask to make a metaverse world to re-enact it!
@@ccricers Sorry you're right. "We'll use quantum computing with only a 50 percent chance we'll destroy our universe with every attempt." "But that's not how quantum computing works." "I'll make work that way!"
The person pouring gas with the nozzle out of the tank gave me anxiety.
As someone who rides a motorcycle I'm used to it. I have to just barely have the nozzle in my tank if I want a full tank.
The Pay it Forward one got me. I bought it hook line and sinker. I didn't donate, thankfully, but I would have. And then the cracks started to appear. By the end, I was so disappointed with humanity.
The kid which was swiped left on the adopting app is 52 years old now. Still waiting to be adopted.
36:20 Lemme get this straight, this scammer couple blew $367,108.18 in less than 100 days. That's $3,671 per day that they gambled away like idiots.
Ah yes, just what everyone whats to know when being sold an idea, that it is "technically feasible", not that the person selling the idea can do it, just that it is technically possible that somebody could.
related to that, you know when someone says "12 tubes of blood" they are trying to emotionally manipulate you, '12 tubes' sounds a lot worse than '12 blood tests'
Like an Umbrella Academy quote I heard once. "If you have to use the word "technically", you're already in trouble."
Adoptly was a prank to see how much they could get, apparently they had intended on ending the campaign early and refunding the backers, but it was suspended first.
It's kind of bullshit that the girl who got to spend the cash and live the life was able to plea and blame it all on her ex. Even if it was his idea she went along with it and also benefitted from it so she should be punished accordingly. Such bullshit
That’s the other side of gender inequality people don’t want to see.
How to say you have no idea how manipulation and abuse work without spelling it out...
Well it cant be thaaat bad
*September 11th Redux*
Oh no
Saw the second one hit live too. Had just walked back from shops with my mother and my father asked to put the TV on to see if cricket was showing. Saw the news running, wondered wtf was this and then bam, live number two strikes. We all thought it was a film because it didn't seem possible
Adopt me is a comedy sketch or they are trolling the internet..... Cant be real!
I could swear I saw an actual comedy sketch of this somewhere before.
@@mostmelon it looks like the work of high quality internet trolls using bullshit to measure stupidity in other humans.... These people are on a different level.
Woot for Octavius King's narration!
I noticed you used the Sonic Shuffle title screen music, good on you showing abit of attention to that underrated great Sonic game, even if it's just the title screen music
That took a dark turn , just reaffirmed that people are horrible, glad people like you bring this to light , love you slope keep it up 👍
You know you watch too much youtube when you know who DJ Slope got to do voices.
I always said if they just took the money quietly and moved away from the public eye, they would've easily enjoyed it, but ofc their greed and addictions made them go this way.
you and bundy jr are my go to videos for a chilled night, thankyou kind sir and happy new year
I can already see the 9/11 update " we dont have enough money so...we are going to stuff a smaller plane with explosives. its still close right?"
I remember 9/11 very well too. Happened the day before my birthday so we were making cupcakes for my class for the next day and my dad called us in a panic to turn on the news. I remember that second plane.
Surprised to hear Octavius King voicing for the video. She’s a really underrated channel.
18:45 Not gonna lie, as someone who grew up with domestic abuse even the description of that video was enough to bring back horrific trauma for me, so I just skipped it.
Hope you doing ok!!
Completely understandable and anyone who would dare judge you negatively for that is a douche.
I grew up with an abusive stepdad so I can definitely relate to that segment being incredibly difficult to withstand.
As if $1.5 million would be enough to acquire a 767 and drone it up, never mind getting a building and another aircraft to follow it. Then there’s the slightly less obvious problem of his assertion that pilots could parachute out of a 767 at cruising altitude.
A few little lies opened the gate for greed. Also, Kate got off easy.
That homeless scam was crazy. If they weren't so greedy they could have split the money 3 ways and changed their lives forever.
Steal from 14k people get sentenced for stealing from only one person.
We know exactly what happens when a plane hits a building like the Trade Center...it happened and we all saw it.
As a neutral party here I will point out for fairness sake that there is no consensus on that actually, as both experts (construction, demolition and ordinance use) and the families of the victims are on both sides of the divide, with some being Pro-Government and Pro-Planes vs. Pro-Investigation and Pro-No Planes. And unfortunately both sides have their own fair points.
I can see the adoptly one getting into some dangerous peoples hands... Taking it a different way
My dumb ass: "surely it cant get worse than 9/11: The Sequel"
Slope comes in with: "Tinder, but for adoption."
9/11 redux was a very simple scam. You cannot buy a 767 for for less than $100 million.
Well i wasn't sold on the evil aspect immediately, 911 refux was more stupud then evil and the adoption app was more dark humor then evil but things got dark fast after those warm ups ☠
The 911 and adoption are “””””Good””””” people thinking they are Smart, or just naive as an elementary schooler
After that, its just pure evil
1.5 million is not even 1/10th the price of ONE 767 engine. Let alone the entire plane. Let alone the airgas. Let alone buying a building. Let alone buying all surrounding buildings that will be set on fire. Let alone the cleanup cost. Let alone the SECOND plane you need. Let alone the cost of the remote control systems and lastly, the crew. Absolutely laughable.
For reference, a 767 costs 185 million minimum. Two of them would be double that (I doubt you can RENT a 767...). A tower half the mass of the WTC would cost 450-600 million dollars. As said, you would need to buy all the surrounding property unless you want to go to Gitmo for, you know, being a terrorist and raining glass/fire on active populated buildings. You would need to buy all buildings in a several block radius, costing anywhere from 800 million to 2 billion dollars depending on location. Then the cost of two sets of trained pilots willing to do this ridiculous stunt, one of which is willing to jump out of the 767 via the emergency escape (which has has a looooow chance of survival). Minimum you're looking at 2-3 million for hazard pay alone, as well as the crew necessary to fuel and make flight worthy two planes that size. Add to it 50,000 dollars for one load of airgas, times two, and a complicated remote control system at 500k.
But yeah I'm sure 1.5 million will cover it. Why use advanced FEA tools when we can destroy perfectly good buildings?
It would be hilarious if daniel perez made a kickstarter to fund robbing 5 houses.
One of the stretch goals is if you put in 50 dollars you get to be an accomplice
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!
As an avid board-gamer, I remember the Perez crap like it was yesterday. Just insane.
Another terrible thing, that was 100% NOT the company's fault (Their Kickstarter was actually pretty great) was what happened with Shaun Varsos of Van Ryder games, though the situation had nothing to do with scamming.
For $25,000 you can ride in the plane that is going crash into the building!
Lol the Adoptlly app seems like something a guy would think of while super high after watching the movie North where a kid travelled around auditioning prospective parents XD
Lenony snickets a series of unfortunate events is a better adoption story then this app xD. Its kind of a sad dark comedy movie but hey its tim burton!
Hi everyone! I hope you all have a wonderful and safe day.
Take care and God Bless🤎
Presumably they were planning to tell the people working in the ‘chosen building’ that they were going to use it?
Didn't you cover the Blake story last year? I thought you did but I might be mistaken. Either way, bravo my good sir you always come through in spectacular fashion. This is why I am a subscriber for life.
Of course the Perez thing happens in the state I live in, in Milford of all places
okay the one where the mother faked her kids illness that's legitimately a dangerous one because it starts out like that but to get more attention that she wants she will start legitimately harming her kid that's a mental disease I forget the name of it but that's something that happens quite a lot
I speak to this as a non north american, to this day you will find people my age that remember either seeing the 9/11 events live or being around in person, it's a traumatic fracture that lead to a lot of things happen, good and god awfull, wanting to recreate that in the real world again is way further beyond evil and tasteless
I just recently came.across this channel and I'm mad I didn't find it sooner. Really enjoy your content Slopes!
Also nice touch with the Tomb Raider II music
Who knew Peter Kay had a side line trying to create Game of Thrones and Pac Man games?
I’m surprised This channel doesn’t have more subscribers it’s so well made
Great video, but man does this make me feel disappointed in humanity. These scammers are just horrid.
2\3 years old…I hope the kids are in a safe and loving home ❤️
Regarding the 9/11 redux, the original video can be found on the Retsupurae channel. Slowbeef and Diabetus riffed on the "canpaign" during a panel for RTX. It's even worse than the video shown here.
I always forget you do Kickscammers and get surprised when I hear your voice.
They could just make a CUDA physics recreation.
Has any of these videos helped take down scummy campaigns? Because, I like that you are shining light on these things.
If you can simulate it enough in the video to do the computer graphics surely you can do the physics simulation and have the exact same result? Not that the foresnic investigators ALREADY DID THIS 20 YEARS AGO
The braindead Truthers will never accept a computer simulation, claiming the same cabal of conspirators who engineered the false flag attack would manipulate the simulations to support the "official lie" or some such nonsense. They'll never be satisfied with anything short of flying their own plane into an actual building to prove the physics once and for all.
@videoluver7 You're 100% correct - there's a large crossover between Truther and Flat Earthers and we've seen that same thing with Flat Earthers who keep accidentally proving the Earth is round but discount their own results.
They're at the point where physics simulations are INSANELY realistic, which could show everything to be true.
Simple fact is, though, people will believe whatever nonsense they believe. We're currently in a plague where nearly 300x the number of people who died in 9/11 died, and we can't get people to take a simple shot.
Logic has no sway on the stupid.
The empire state building got hit by a b-52 bomber in 1945. Also the towers were designed to be hit by 707's.
7:50 Hey! The Bakersfield Californian, my birth city's newspaper.
911 Redux would also probably need a lisence to operate and if hypotetically the real 911 was caused by bombs, I'm sure special forces make sure the event either doesn't happen, or will rig the model to behave like the real thing.
Wait a second is this a repost?
I loved the Secret of Evermore sounds
I still think that last story would make for a good movie.
I agree, it would make for a good movie, just not in the way the couple thought it would.
she should've had to stick to a 5 year plan that if she messed up she' d get locked up too