Remaking This Tool From the 1920's - Part 1
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Fun fact Alec: I used to work for the grandsons (Peterson Builders) of the man (William Petersen) who invented the vice grips. At some point down the line, they changed the spelling of their last name. I have seen the original vice grip and the original patent. They have it framed in their fathers house, was pretty cool.
That's really fucking cool mate. Also not something everybody can say
That's really cool.
European immigrant families Americanizing their last names is pretty common, and makes trying to do family history research frustrating.
You can tell the tool was originally made by someone who knew their way around an anvil, that came right together when some heat and hammering. Pretty sweet!
Damascus bolt cutters!!! Let's make this happen
The supreme Bike stealing device
I don’t think Damascus would be cool…. Everyone has seen the stereotypical meh that is Damascus… how about San mai if you want to get fancy? Great idea tho…
Id like just a simple Damascus (low count) on the jaws of these.
Using lock shackles as one of the two Damascus ingredients!
Yes
I watched this right after watching Smarter Every Day's film on stamped steel. Alec is essentially the 100 Tonne press, working with tooling forming his work one step at a time. Both are artistry, one with a very human touch, the other is the art of industry.
The vise grip is the most versatile tool, grip, clamp, wrench, hammer, the list goes on.
I agree with Alec about the sound effects. I miss Alec’s quirky side coming out in the videos and I love to see when he’s being quirky. I also love remaking all these tools by hand it’s so fascinating and educational to see both how they work but how they’re made
The explanation of how vice grips work is already worth the series. Even if you throw it into a lake at the end.
Damascus pruning shears collab with This Old Tony since he has his sharpening jig. And you could be in his pruning therapy group ;)
The main lesson I'm learning from these series is that working with sheet metal is a total nightmare unless you have very specialized tooling. It makes sense for mass production since the material is cheap and common, and you save on steel costs when making a lot of them. And if you're making a million of them, it makes sense to have a tool set and custom machine to do exactly the job you need. However, for bespoke, hand forged versions, I suspect solid steel will be much much easier. I would imagine that the original design used solid steel in the fixed jaw
For most of the parts Alec makes, forging isn't the fastest or easiest way to do it. The amount of times i scream inside my head is very high because he never uses the lathe or mill when its convenient but that is because he is a blacksmith and not a machinist.... when you are working a lathe all day you feel like every problem has a rotational symmetrical solution. :D But seeing him come up with weird solutions to forge things is really cool.
Yes, I was also thinking why not use a solid blank and mill the slots, etc. it would, I think, make a stronger part at least
One advantage to not using a lathe is that youre not losing that much material. Lathes are more of a deletion process while forging and hammering is basically a modification process. (If you want to get really cool, but really expensive, you could do metal 3D printing... Which is probably the first properly "additive" process). Also, forging and bending this way may be slow initially, but it has the potential to be the fastest in the long run. The jigs he's making to pound out the sheet metal is really similar to the process needed to mass produce the item. If he wanted to get even quicker and less wasteful than the lathe, he'd get a couple of hydraulic presses, and set up a small factory line. Then heat and press the part into each jig quickly and with at least some automation using the presses instead of a hammer. And the jigs are reusable a certain number of times, so you could conceivably bang out a ton of tools in short order on the same jigs.
I like watching his channel, because although I'm more interested in machining usually, his methods are much more scalable. I think all 3 processes have their place if you really want the full ability to prototype anything.
I dont really see him "mass producing" a bog standard vice grip in his shop. But he is learning how to make one by this method. After that, he could make jigs for more custom ones that you just cant buy really. If I were him, I'd probably make a long handled vice grip, with easily replaceable teeth (so they could be changed out after wear and tear, or different kinds could be thrown on for different jobs). Using jigs, he could make enough of those to last his shop a lifetime, plus sell some to the small niche of people who'd like those.
Hey alec fun fact. I am a machinist from nebraska and if i remember correctly there is seven different hardnesses of steel in a pair of vice grips.
This is hands down my favorite TH-cam series of all time
I love the regular house tool appreciation series on this channel. I never thought about how complex vice grips are
VICE GRIP HYPE BABY!!!! My favorite multi tool ever.
I asked for this build wayyyyyy back in the day, before the katana, before Alec was married, before he became American. Way back, happy to start a 18 part series!
Always enjoy seeing Jamie’s contributions! 6:06
I've just come to realise how genius this concept is. Making regular tools, like this, the vice grip. He has hundreds of common tools the can pick and choose to build, then he has hundreds of unique speciality tools to choose from to build, basically infinite potential content.
Then not only has he made an awesome video, showing all of us how you could make tools, he then has a tool he can use XD
Always enjoy seeing Jamie’s contributions! 6:06. Can't wait to see the finished product!.
Still got my dads mole branded mole grips. I enjoy the idea of a mole having a crazy tight grip
How about a classic forging project. Forge your own Leg Vise. 5”’jaws floating screwbox the works!
I made myself a customized one a year ago by using parts from (also Irwin) an actual vise-grip, but this is the first time i've seen someone make one from scratch. Worth saying that it's probably... one of the most modified tools out there. I've seen them given soft jaws, custom jaws, i've seen them modified for long reach, stubbed out, i've even seen someone make a hot rod brake out of one, using the toggle handle to actuate the braking system (i think that's what it did). There's so many variations naturally and custom of this, that it could probably fill a small book's worth of pages on it.
Sidenote: For some reason... i didn't expect you'd do this one, even with all the things you've been replicating lately. :))
Can confirm, the vice grip is the greatest tool that never should have been invented. It either makes your life instantly easier, or half a days work longer.
Discovered you during the Barker St. days. I even ordered a Chef Mic T-shirt. I enjoyed the channel a lot when things were simple. Later, you started adding jewels to things and I lost interest. Now I see you getting back to basics and I am interested again. Keep making practical things and I'll be a forever fan.
I'd like to see a vice grip tong for blacksmithing.
I saw one that reminded me of giant forceps used by doctors. The handles were springy and flexible and latch together at the end.
@@Bob_Adkins It's pretty common to have slightly springy tong handles (it's even desirable, since they help deaden the impact from the hammer, reducing work strain on the tong hand), and a lot of smiths will make little rings that go around the handle ends to 'lock' them.
I've seen recently on youtube how this tool was made without any fancy bending at all. They just took square metal profile tube, cut it with grinder and slightly bent it on the edges and weld it in some places. No heavy bending or forging at all. Instruments used are just welder, grinder, hammer and vice.
Always love a new blacksmith Max Fosh series!
Can really see how Alec’s previous makes in this series has sharpened and honed his skills! Awesome to watch 😀
Love that Alec used Vice Grips to take apart the vice grips.... 2:05
The sound of vice grips is part of the sound engineering of almost every gun cocking noise in almost every movie
This is one of my absolute necessities at work. I have 10 of them in the same straight jaw configuration.
Smarter everyday has a great video about stamping !
I love your videos. I need some more of the artistic stuff you used to do. The crazy sword with inlay that I am on the edge of my seat on whether you will actually be able to do it. This vice grip is cool but for you this is pretty easy. Give us an EPIC artistic build that we know is outside your comfort zone and possibly......... capability. I love the determination when doing things you are unsure of. You came to America and left the old Alec artist in the UK and we havent seen him in a long time. If you want a suggestion reach out, but it will be something you may fail at and that would be AWESOME! Seeing you pushed to the limit is entertaining and engaging.
This looks like a project worthy of Alec Steele.
Most amazing tool. Everyone needs one. Adjustable spanner next.
So I'd bet good money that the "fixed jaw" is furnace brazed together at the thread and at the jaw insert. (then tumbled and plated) Most likely the jaw insert is pre-hardened and the brazing is done during the tempering cycle of the jaw insert. So figure out the tempering temperature you want and call up your local welding/brazing supplier to find which of the zillions of brazing alloys is the best.
I believe with the production models, the jaw is attached to the handle through resistance welding/resistance brazing, which makes sense for large scale production.
Still great to see your take on this classic. Shows off a lot of different skills.
I watch your videos for 3 years +
Love your content.
Top knotch quality!!!!
I am a qualified carpenter and I have nothing to do with black smithing. But I love your work and it has been a joy so far to watch your videos.
And today I noticed that you use something I love to use myself.....
Working Gloves from Hase model PERU !!!! They are the most comfortable Gloves I know. Ridiculously good.
I must do something right....
(I use them for beekeeping)....
I am just a Tool-o-phile (i hope that makes any sense in English) and love good stuff. These Gloves are good!!!!
Comphy as hell.
Sorry for my English.
Kind regards from Germany
You know my grandpa brought back some very unique padlocks from Iran. I’d love for you to try and recreate them. They’re very clearly hand forged.
Damascus ladle, with intricate handle and inscription that says; "IT'S GRAVY TIME!"
7:28 for some reason, this little collection of failures cracked me up 😂😂
Oh Yeah!!! Thanks Alec!!!
LOVED the music for this vid. Also huge fan of your "make it myself" series
I'm glad your finger grew back.
Billet one from forged damascus would also be very cool. Maybe do another like that? 🙌🏻
My favourite Alec Steele videos are always toolmaking ones. Great Job Alec
Starting again when the part could have been saved with just a zap with the TIG welder is such an alex thing to do 😂
As a Nebraskan this makes me very happy.
I Made a special dispenser valve months ago. I had to make My own sheet metal dies. The valve has a similar mechanism. When it closes a oscilating pin shuts off the flow pressing a plastic hose. It's for filling shocks absorbers with oil.
An infernal project, But i like it😅
7" Curved jaws are most common and most useful. Chain Vise grips are super handy, you can daisy chain them together, as many as you have.
I use the vise grips after trying the nut rounder.
I always enjoy the way you explain how things work. Great content as always.
Alec is going to make himself the nicest tool set ever! Ad he goes through, tool by tool and makes his own!
Love it and can't wait to follow along!
Just freaking awesome!
Love hearing the story of the 'universal nut rounder' and being explained how they work.
And yes, never my go to tool, as they tend to mar and destroy whatever you're grabbing on to, but if you just absolutely have to have something grabbed on to and taken off, your strength will give out before these do!
Good on you Jamie for calling them by their proper name
love the new look with the hair Alec
Heavy metal really goes well with forging!
Love the; make a tool to make a tool to make the thing part of these processes, AND how you never try to hide a mistake, but try to show us how to learn like you do to fix things and not give up! Hope the rest of the pieces will be made out of Damascus.
I Father knew Mr Peterson, from Nebraska...great design even when it pinches your fingers. Steel to the face, I did tell you my Great Grandfather, the blacksmith, had lost an eye to a piece of work. He was in his 90s in the 60s.
alec! thank you for the videos you are a real inspiration to me. thank you for getting me into blacksmithing!
1:00 You have a wonderful opportunity to inspire people with the science of mechanical design/engineering. Perfect platform with an amazing audience if you are willing to dig into the science and understand it well enough to share!
Can't wait to see the finished product!
Another great video as always. You know, i went back and watched some earlier episode's. And ir has been pretty awesome to watch you grow as the video's go along. And not just age wise, but your different shops grow, tools grow, swords and knives, and talent with engraving. And coolest of all is your family has grown. Keep up the good work brothery. So proud to see how far youve gone. OH AND WATCHED YOU GROWUP FROM EUROPE TO MONTANA AND BACK AGAIN.
Hooray for Nebraska!
As a welder I’ve always wanted a Damascus chipping hammer using spiral Damascus for the long pointed side.
Interesting Process starting to come along nicely
Alec, you need to make a blacksmith vice grips. Long handles, that lock on to your material!
You should make a pair of long vise grip forging tongs for holding on to your projects.
This is one of those things like zippers or (ballpoint) pens that you feel like have been around forever....but then you find out they've only really been around a century...really enjoy your breakdown of how to make common tools. They might be common but they don't end up as simple as they seem
So pleased to see you make something other than a knife Alec, Well done and keep that up 😊
Can't wait to see what kind of Damascus you do for the jaws!!!!!!
Honestly, a lil bigger one with long handles, and maybe a screw or pin setup to swap in new teeth would make for a pretty cool metal working tool. It'd keep your hand away from the heat, you could replace teeth as they wear down, and you could even swap in different kinds of teeth for different kinds of work.
I have 7 different vise grips. They always come in handy
You should have done a bit of history on the difference between vice grips and mole grips. The terms are used interchangeably, but they are different and are (were) subject to two separate patents. Vice grips the release lever pulls toward the handle, on mole grips it pushes away. Also, on the mole grip, the static jaw is riveted in place and not a one-piece with the handle as in the vice grip. I'm such a nerd... God help me... 😂😂
Hey alec if you wanna make a stronger constructed visegrip you can close the seem where the bolt goes
Love the work. Need longer videos
In Wales, we call them 'Mole Grips', After the fellow who made our first nearly identical locking pliers. I am no engineer but yes, I have two; one is a miniature example.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this one
Yes, I love the remake a tool series. Need more damascus versions please 🙏
I wish these videos were longer!!
Great project idea. Im excited to see how this turns out. 👍👍
Weld the female threads closed well. They are a common failure point. I recommend Project Farms video destructive testing vice grips
It would have been kinda cool to see you make a set based on the original patent and then make a super long handled version specifically for forging.
You keep getting better. Already in the first episode a component finished without any major problems. "A surprise but a welcome"
Well done, nice start. 👍👍
Cannot wait for part two!!
i think the best bit in making new things, is making tools and jigs as such to make them
Man it’s insane, I was just looking at a pair of vise grips yesterday thinking damn these are so simple yet so complex and I was just admiring the mechanism of them. Though I wish you would do a spin on them so they aren’t like a 1 to 1 copy of Irwin vise grips
You'll NEVER see this but I'm a smith in Kentucky. I own a set of the first locking jaw pliers patented, pretty sure the date on mine is earlier than the 20's?? I'll look and see. They are REALLY neat tho!!
@9:50 I'm more impressed you're doing this with only one hand
You may want to make your own sandblasting carbinet ... with some build in rubber gloves and plexi glas ^^
I wanna see you do more casting work! I feel like this stuff should have been casted.
I absolutely love this series when you rebuild/recreate some tool or device
I'd love to see you make the vise grips in the original patent!
I remember the old days when Alec would’ve made a 17 part series about making the tooling required to make the tool lol.
Great idea!
Nice job I look forward to seeing how it turns out. As much as I love building tongs, my favorite hot fitting tool for shoeing horses is the vise grip 🙂
This boy is growing up in front of our eyes
I love these videos. Yet I would like to have one change and that is when you build something like this you build one as close to the same way learning how they are made, the 2nd one you put your own spin on it. You can improve, make it look better and give it your own feel and look to it.
Would like to see some Damascus incorporated into this. Think little pieces here and there would be awesome!
Very cool project and useful tool. Best to you
I love that Alec just wakes up and decides to make random items.