450MT vs Himalayan 450 vs Scrambler 400X - Detailed Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- I have overthought my choice between these CFMOTO 450MT, Royal Enfield Himalayan 450, and Triumph Scrambler 400x to death, so I'd like to share my findings with you.
Here's the link to the comparison spreadsheet: drive.google.com/open?id=1K7g...
Videos mentioned:
450MT air filter: • Air Filter removal/ins...
Scrambler 400X air filter: • Triumph Scrambler 400 ...
Himalayan 450 air filter: • DIY Air Filter Replace...
FortNine T7 review: • Is the Yamaha Ténéré 7...
Interview with Royal Enfield Lead Concept Designer: • Why Does Himalayan 450...
Podcast with Siddarth Lal about Himalayan: • #BuiltByTheHimalayas |...
CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:31 Setting aside my biases
1:13 THE BEST BIKE IS...
3:34 What we won't discuss yet
3:54 Service intervals/specs comparison
4:08 Each bike's place in off-road family tree
5:25 Engine, throttle response, and vibrations
7:44 Weight and adventure touring capability
9:53 Instrument cluster
10:50 The 450s Off-road
13:32 Air filter access
13:46 Robustness
14:21 High countershaft/anti-squat
15:56 Scrambler 400x off-road
16:58 Spare parts and accessories
17:48 Seat height
18:25 Ergos
18:47 Handling in the twisties
19:12 City and commuting
20:02 Pothole absorption
20:30 Engine heat
20:36 Touring
21:34 Seat comfort
21:42 Top speed
22:14 Fuel economy
22:56 Gearbox
23:15 Brakes
23:49 Clutch pull
24:08 Style/aesthetics
25:13 Which will I buy?
29:25 Follow your heart!
30:13 What did I miss?
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Check the description for links to the comparo spreadsheet and all the videos mentioned in this review! Thanks for watching.
thanks for spreadsheet 👍
As an owner of himalayan 450, this motorcycle will surely get into your heart.
Ansioso pela chegada dela no Brasil 🇧🇷. Tive uma 411
@@motoeoffroadtb estou na espera. Demorando demais pra lançar aqui
@@ademarmneto e só sobra pra nós ver vídeo gringo sem saber oque tão falando 😂
Bestttt bessttt and the best , you feel it when u own one.✅
bro, it's my dream bike wanna get one as soon as i can I'm 22 year old from gujrat, India, wann explore whole mother indian with this beast, it's a dream for me.
I just noticed that the personality of MOST buyers/owners of Himalayan are not loud. Just like the bike, they prefer to ride and enjoy the scenery, but are equally capable on tough roads if needed to get to their destination. 🍺👍
👍 I got a meteor 350cc. Don't want the new himmy. A 411 will do fine . Looks nicer ❤
I suppose it depends from region to region. Here in India from where the company is (now). RE owners are super proud and will DOG on any other bike brand :)
So, it's situational. Of course this isn't all RE owners but I can say 80-90% owners.
@@yohaan9 and vice versa i guess,i guess people will throw hate at re no matter what,vibration,no vibration,uses the same engine,doesn't use the same engine,looks retro,doesn't look retro. the ceo must be under pressure all the time 😂😂😂
@@vkrishna0612 aare people will always hate. Fact is their 650's are really good bikes and the new 450 engine is good too. I'm wondering if the 350 engine will be replaced by the 450.
RE fanbase is toxic lekin. Sadly :(
@@yohaan9 not just re fan base, re haters too 😂, every other country seems to love the whole re line up, but our country hates that they use the same engine. just because re is open about.
Man, you cover so much details. From when I was still a 450MT fanboy downloading Chinese reviews from Bilibili, downloading both owner's manual PDFs, to seeing and loving the clean kaza brown Himmy and searching for every issue the Indians have in different forums! When I first get the Himmy out of its stand on the MotoMakinaShow, I thought I will live with this, I love the bike anyways. After 2 months, it's an advantage to stand the bike on an incline and offroad. I hope to push myself to better write and tell stories like you!
Ey bro! Been watching your videos as well. Love that Kaza Brown. Appreciate your input as an early Himmy 450 owner.
We've been waiting sooo long for someone to give a proper comprehensive review. Thank you for this one. Wonderful point. I love the way you do these reviews.
Thanks Aaron, great review. I think you covered most if not all of the items that are pertinent. I'm an experienced but older rider 5'10", 178cm, and have owned 8 motorcycles from 1973 until last year. I like the idea of the 450MT based on its price, reasonably low weight and ADV chops, not perfect for on-road or off, but capable at both. I will use it for local routes in the mountains and deserts of the SW USA and for a long trip I plan to Ushuaia. I think this will be the best bike for me. CFMoto is pretty common in Latin America and the USA due to all the CFMoto ATV dealers. I prefer the twin power plants over the thumpers as the vibes bother my arthritic wrists. I'm excited to finally test drive one in a couple of weeks (late in coming here). Great English as well... salamat, love your beautiful country and friendly people
This is how you do a comparison video. A lot of youtubers could learn a great deal from this. I highly commend your work and think this one of the best comparison videos on TH-cam period!
Great work and God bless. 👍🏿
Motorcycle rider for 20+ years. Here is the deal. These bikes are not the bloated overweight and unnecessary overpowered money pit, battle ships, like the Tiger 900, IBEX, or GS. They are nimble, tough, relatively simple construction. Easy to ride, especially in the dirt. They are NOT beginner bikes..far from if you ride it how they are intended. Their weight is all on top, which makes them top heavy and unbalance...but for a good reason. Learn how to handle the top heavy nature of these bikes and you have a great class of motorcycle in the stable. Thanks!
Wym they are not beginner bike lmao they are perfectly alright for a beginner bike
@@AswathReacher just keep reading past that point ....
It's OVERWHELMING under powered for Americans' roads, especially in the mid west, where people drive 100 mph, with steep mountain inclines
But it perfectly for Asian and European countries where it's clustered and everything is just smaller
Mountains in the mid-west?? Lol@@funyun
I am from India, Bought my first bike (Himalayan 450) ever 4 months ago. In love with it man, its beautiful. Like you said that bike spoke to me and sometimes you listen to your heart and not the specifications.
Ansioso pela chegada dela no Brasil 🇧🇷. Tive uma 411
By a country mile, the best comparison of these bikes that I've seen so far - thank you!
I was talking to Engineer brother about this and we both agreed we would go for the Enfield. They have been making bikes forever and even the old bad Enfield's had unmatched durability. I would trust Royal Enfield to build a bike that will last.
Excelent, really detailed, and pertinent review. Keep the good work man. Greetings from Colombia, South America.
Thank you! I'm sure this was a much awaited video for a lot of us!
I've watched so many videos that break these bikes down, but no one has been so detailed and honest in their review. Hats off to you, great great work!!!
dude I've been waiting for so long for you to review the scrambler 400x, great video man!
Great production man. You have some awesome insights on these bikes and bring up some valid points.
Absolutely amazing review / comparison!!
Love that you compared these three. Also some of the most comprehensive information I've seen anywhere online, bravo!
Greetings from the North Cascades of Washington state.!Great review. You do such great reviews! No blather, swagger or arrogance. Thank you!
A very thorough comparison, reminds of the kind of detail you would get from a bgrockmoto review. Especially the addition of a spreadsheetm really impressive!
I've been searching out all the scrambler videos I can find on YT (in all classes - 400, 900 & 1200). This has been the most engaging by far. Thank you. New subscriber here. (I'm still confused af as to what to get for my next bike).
I actually find the Scrambler 400X more engaging to ride than the Scrambler 900, hehe. Scrambler 900 has very long gears so a totally different character, very smooth, refined, and relaxed. Better on the open road for sure, but not as fun elsewhere.
I've got the 1200XE and it's a big, tall and heavy bike. It's great for open road touring and a bit of gravel but would be hopeless in countries with bad roads and lots of congestion. It's also a bit big for riding round town, I love mine but it depends where you will be riding, your skill level and your own height. I always think the best thing to do is narrow your search down and go for a ride on each then buy the one that puts the biggest smile on your face. It usually stands out.
Love that you covered the intangibles. Awesome comparison!
Brilliantly comprehensive review sir !!
Excellent review, thank you. The CF is not widely available in the UK for a test at present, but I've tried the other two, and your assessment is 100% accurate: I found myself nodding along with your comments frequently. Good luck with the Himi - I'm a rider of similar height, but will be waiting for a lowering kit to become available before I place my order.
That's how every motorcycle review should look like, great job!
Good analyse, I went with the Himalayan, then the MT was released at the same price here in Au. The 270deg twin, dual balancer was something I have been hoping for, but I think the 452 is the right choice for the travels & roads I hope to do over the next few years, while I still can. Time will tell, but hay I don't think either would be a bad choice. Cheers
First of all sorry for my broken English.
And my opinion, RE Himalayan 450 is the best except the offroad experience. I’ve rode it, for me the power a bit more than expected, manage to put a big smile on my face along my 304km journey, the suspension setup something that we need to address, bring above-average level of comfort yet you still can bring it to the winding road, attacking the corners, and this bike will bring another smile, maybe on your eyes, because you mouth already smile earlier when you got on this bike earlier.
P/s : i’ve never rode CF 450MT, and i will never try to do so because of my love towards Himalayan 450 😂😂😂
Thank you. I really like the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450.
Awesome review. We are a new channel and we just tested the 450MT (which will come out tomorrow) and we agree to all your points throughout, but the way you deliver it is so articulate. We learned a lot from you and your video and we’ll definitely use that on our next content. ❤❤❤
Good luck guys! Thanks for swinging by. ☺️
Excellent Aaron. Congratulations!
Just came across this video. What a well delivered and informative review. You have a new subscriber, well done👍
This was a great in depth review awesome stuff!
one of the most if not the most comprehensive review of the 450MT and the others.
Wow! Man this video is awesome. Great detailed analysis and review. Many thanks! 🤘🔥💪
You definitely put a lot of effort into this video, food for thought 👌
I'm intrigued by the Himy and 450MT, but I enjoy the off-road prowess of my 300 Rally and it has been flawless.
Plenty of Honda dealers here in Aus. Royal Enfield dealers also.
As for CF Moto, the nearest one to me is about 2 hours away...
Wow! I happen to stumble onto this channel. Aaron, thank you for this balanced and insightful comparison review. I am now subscribed and will check out all your other videos posted.
Excellent review; the ‘has short legs, but wants to show you how fast it can run,’ comment, put a smile on my face. As a Ducati XDiavel S owner, my dream bike is a Honda X-ADV scooter.
In India CF Moto came in with a big bang, but fell flat on its face when compared with KTM, Royal enfield, Bajaj, triumph.
CF Moto engines are incredibly bad , after about 10,000 kms they are not the same as above mentioned good brands, C. Moto is a Chinese company which pays more attention to profits, compare to quality.
I KNOW ALL THIS BECAUSE I HAVE OWNED CF MOTO 650MT AND THE ENGINE BLEW UP AT 2595 KMS, AFTER ONE YEAR LONG LEGAL BATTLE COURT RULED IN MY FAVOUR AND I WAS RETURNED EVERY SINGLE PENNY.
Later, I purchased Royal Enfield interceptor 650 And 79,560 kms in 3.2 years later it’s still running like new.
I'm buying the RE bullet. Best looking of the bunch and has the suspension upgrade that the other RE650's need.
@@arnohag1A classic 650 is on the way. Not to hold you off or something.
another hallucination made up story by an indian 😁
and how exactly is this "blew up" means, like pistons jammed or blew up like in the movie or something?
that's because you shouldn't buy a 650mt, which is a model that is infamous, and every brand has it's infamous models, even honda.
you should try out the 800mt or models containing the 450 engine, which is designed 100% by CFmoto and has won tons of fans.
Great review Aaron. Really well done!
beautiful comparison!!!! Thank you
Thanks for this informative video. I would drop the front forks on the MT about 20mm through the yolks to improve the front end feel especially if the rear suspension lowering option on the shock position is used.
Excellent review and sensible advice!
You put alot into this review. And it was excellent.
Many thanks for the video... I was exactly looking for this comparison...
Got 1300 km on my MT450 here in Poland. Got unlucky and my clutch lever was delivered without the pivot bushing. Replaced in 5 days, so that is ok.
The biggest compliment for me of my MT450 is the short final gearing. At that 125 kmh the motor spins at 7000 on a motor with 8500 red line. Don't like that at all, there is plenty of power for taller 5th and 6th gear.
The fueling off idle is shit (let's be honest here). The ecu needs a good, clean tune.
Skid plate is paper thin.
I am 178 cm and 75 kgs. I soften the front, increased the preload out back a bit. Feels good now, but the front is "firm".
Rest of the bike is very good. All the little features, all the little adjustments I was able to do with stock parts, so nice.
Again, you do a very nice job with your vids. I hope you become a big success. Thx .
I have to say after watching 20mins of this 30 min clip, I agree with all comments about the Himi. A well done and unbiased review. Thanks,
Creo que me acabo de decidir por la GRAN HIMALAYAN 450 .. GRAN VIDEO Y ANALISIS .. SALUDOS DESDE MÉXICO 🇲🇽
Jack of all trades, master of none. Its better to have multiple motorcycles instead of one do it all motorcycle. Having a 411 owner for relaxed ride and a TVS Apache 200 for fun rides. Life is good!
Great job doing this review. I'm also torn between the Himi and the MT. However because I'll be using the bike as a commuter, I'm leaning on the Himi as I've heard from some owners of the MT that they're getting a fuel consumption of only 17 kms per liter significantly lower than the Himi. I also like the bloodline of the Himi. Can't wait to purchase one. I'm just waiting it out for some of the kinks to be improved. Cheers. Ride safe.
To give some perspective, Honda Transalp and Suzuki 800DE give the mileage at around 20kmph, which are also twin cylinder engines.
So why does a MT450 give so less mileage whole being lower in weight than Himmy450? If someone knows why please educate us all.
Excellent vid! Thanks!
Excellent review sir. Thank you. The CF Moto looks interesting to me but I’ll stick with my little Kawasaki 400 because it’s cheap. And it only took me 3 gallons to get to Yosemite from Concord California. I’m not blown away from the performance, but I’m blown away by the fuel efficiency.
Thank you for this review from Jakarta, Indonesia 😊
I've got my Z900 for over 6 years and want to have a second bike for ADV experience. Thanks for the excellent comparison. I think I'll get the 450MT to experience the cross plane parallel twin.
Awesome review mate, great breakdown in all bikes, what they do and who would benefit from these bikes, in the real world, I have the Himmi, and yes looked at all the bikes that you have reviewed, looking forward to your next review on the Himmi, you hit the nail on the head, I’m happy riding the Himmi, and it’s my second go-to-bike, I Indulged myself to have that off road fun.
Looking forward to your next review Aaron 👍
The longer I look at it, the more I like the Himie. I think it's one of the best looking bikes currently on sale, and it's one of the best looking bike in many years as well. Royal Enfield did very right when designing the bugger! 🤗
Thank you for this!
We were lucky enough to get two MT450s, serial number in the low thousand so one of the first off the production line. We love the bikes - there's nothing bad about it. Sure, there's things that would be an improvement, for instance cruise control would be a nice addition for version 2, and maybe a slightly less thirsty engine. But the benefits are a very low seat, the engine sound, plenty of power, all the things they have thought about, e.g. when you work on the bike everything just makes sense - things are accessible, things aren't over engineered and use simple but effective solutions, it's REALLY well built. The 450MT is already a classic, it's a trendsetter.
Excellent review of these bikes
what a great video! congrats
Excellent review and I agree with almost all your comments! I've got my eye on the Himy especially that Black and Gold. I've test ridden one and think it handles and performs beautifully for a 450 single, yes, a few footrest vibes but not an issue for me who grew up on British singles. I think both the Triumph 400s look top quality but the Himy is 'more' bike and I like the nakedness too. The CF is too modern looking for me and it's a single I'm after with a longish stroke. If I do take the plunge, the Himy will replace my Hunter 350 which is also a great little bike! I've subscribed so will look forward to your next review on the Himy. All the best, Phil (UK)
Great review! Very detailed and opinion is backed up with logical explanations. Himalayan 450 fits my riding preference.
Brilliant work thank you.
I dont understand the hate of the side stand...yeah it leans more and you feel it more but how much time are you spending putting the bike on/off of the stand compared to riding it (im 178cm and its super easy to put it up)... My real complains are the joystick and the vibration at certain rpms (the transition from 4.5 to 6 is rough)...the ride by wire has the delay but it chugs great at low speed and didnt find it top heavy at all
I watched a video yesterday, the lead designer for the 450 RE said the lean was due to changes in the suspension geometry after the rest of the bike geometry had been decided.
Good video by the way, very balanced review
Well done Aaron. I just tripped over channel and I too was faced with exactly the same decision. I have owned the, then new, RE650 Interceptor and the CFMOTO 800MT and still own a Triumph Thruxton R (as well as BMW's 1200/900s and Ducatis) so you can see I too had that dilemma! I ended up buying the RE450 without riding any of the above 450's so I really took a punt. I was swayed by that RE 'story' (I was in the press trade so attended a few launches) and the overall principle of simplicity. The biggest part of my decision was dealer backup and very poor resale for the CF which will obviously improve in the future.
Great review, you have to love your bike no matter it's specs. You said it well, it has to speak to you.
Well done, fun video. Thanks!
What a review! 😍
Absolutely excellent video. Well articulated and you covered EVERYTHING. Well done!
Thank you. Best review I have seen covering these 3 bikes, and I have watched plenty! The bike I chose was the Himalayan 450 and with just over 1000km now run on this bike I think it was a great choice with many significant improvements on my old 411. The side stand is definitely an issue - I have extended mine 35mm which has been a big improvement. I can't understand how RE got that so wrong. Have yet to take it off road but I feel confident it will perform well with all the improvements in suspension, braking and power delivery.
The side stand had to be like that due to center stand offered in himmy which others don't so it make it go to an angle to fit it other wise it will collide with center stand.
@@hdslytro387 Yes, the extension I have made to my side stand now makes it contact the center stand when both are retracted however I now find the bike much easier to get upright from when it is resting on its side stand. I still feel it is a design element that RE could have resolved without too much effort.
G'day Aaron, I'm an Aussie 450MTowner living here in the Philippines. Just wanted to say how much I enjoy watching your vids. I thought I'd bring up something that no reviewers of the bike are mentioning, that's the fact that here in the Philippines the bikes do not have the "T-BOX" which makes the RIDE APP virtually useless. The main disappointment for me is that I can't download the updated software to fix the choppy throttle issue which is quite severe on my bike. I find it ironic that CFMOTO chose the Philippines to debut this great little bike but deprive us of the opportunity to bring it even closer to being perfect. Wake up CFMOTO, Asia is a huge market, bikes sold in Australia and other countries have the technology so why are we being deprived?
@@pez6056 I’ve just heard about this! Man that is a shame. I’ve just ridden one with the sprocket change and it still felt quite jerky to me.
Really great review!!! I own a 411 Himalayan and moving from the UK to Australia, so selling up. I've test ridden the 450MT and I agree with everything you say about the bike.
I do think that the suspension setup on the MT would potentially solve some of the handling issues, and I think people are reporting better fuel economy than what the spec says.
Anyway, for me, the Himalayan is a massive disappointment and isn't the bike I wanted them to make. Too many compromises.
Yes, I own the 411 Himi as well. It is definitely a dog. I do think the new 450 will solve all those issues.
@@LordHolley You might have misunderstood the OP. I think he likes the old one and hates the new one.
Very nicely done, sir. Great info and thought process. We all obsess, don't we? I love the 450MT, but have head of the front end issue as well. I'll see how this issue develops, as I am in the U.S. and would use a bike like this as a longer distance higher speed bike...
Nice comparo sir! ❤❤❤
Hi Aaron, greetings from 🏴 I’ve just found your channel, it’s excellent, I think I’m after an MT too, after a lifetime of Triumphs and currently on an old Himmie! I’ll work my way through your back catalogue!
great video from the philiphines...greatings from Malaysia
Nice and fair review, I understand your choice. I chose the 400x, and after 4000 km every small ride is still just a lot of fun. I have done longer +500 km day trips, and while it´s very comfortable, the lack of wind protection and limited luggage capacity mean it´s certainly no adventure bike. The initial succes of the Triumph 400´s also cause issues with accessories and spare parts delivery, but for the same reason I expect lots of third party products to become available in the near future. The fun is not only for me, the looks and sound of the Scrambler puts a smile on peoples faces along the road as well :-)
Today I brought the New Himalayan 450 ❤
I like your personal taste opinions. Sometimes being good on paper just doesn't sing too😂
@Ride_XP
Aaron......Thank you for a detailed review of these 3 bikes. Just wondering why isn't the KTM 390 ADV in the mix with comparable power.
Je vous remercie pour votre analyse, j'ai testé l’Himalayan 450 que sur la route et je l'ai trouvée très agréable, j'attends de pouvoir tester la CF moto 450mt dans les mêmes conditions, cela me permettra de faire le choix de la moto qui tiendra compagnie à ma moto guzzi v85tt. Grand ✌ de la Haute Savoie en France.
Can't wait for next year until the new 390 Adventure of KTM comes out to do a comparo with the MT and Himy. Hope you also include ease of basic maintenance for owners like oil change, checking the spark plug, battery changes etc.
Bought the new Himalayan back here in India, riding with after market accessories(MOTOTORQUE), havent faced any problems yet completed 1500kms and first service, if you plan to get after market accessories make sure you are Bolting the bolts at right torque specs, and yeah there are vibes that I feel, but I dont mind them as they are just fine not much to be worried about, the engine has this kinda raspy character which you cant say is rough but kinda smooth raspy not sure what I am saying at this point difficult to explain, I like it though, enjoying it!!!!
Great video thanks for that. The choice now on makes and models compared to when I started in the mid eighties is amazing. I can't believe how little Kawasaki, Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki feature these days. The Chinese are doing what the Japanese did in the 70's. Thumping the old brands.
I own the scrambler 400x and of the two himmy and scram I think I'll always take the scrambler since most of the time I'll be in the city or out on the highways with bits of b or c roads and softroads so it perfectly matches the most use case scenario
The overall vehicle height gives a commanding position and it appeals a lot more when you just drive cruising in 50 60mph range
I'm biased but I'll take the Triumph
Himalayan is capable but there is no chance I'll use the extremities it is built for.. and if I have to I'll prefer the xpulse 200 it is even smaller and lighter but not less capable than any of these 450s
My 2022 Himalayan 411 will be a forever bike for me. I love simple. I want a Triumph 400s for fun around town and will end up getting a Can-Am Spyder so my wife and I can ride comfortably together on long trips.
I like my Himalayan, I had a few issues with it, but ignoring those the bike is good. Finishing couls he better, but it's mostly when you look at the details. The 450MT looks really good, but I'm more into the looks of the Himalayan. The Scrambler is for people looking for something retro cool... I would probably have gone for it if it wasn't so tall 😂
Thank you. Probably all the same reasons I want to buy the Himi over the other two. I already have a Hunter as my daily commuter but Himi will let me explore more. 😊
Thanks for the excellent review, do you know if the MT comes standard with the spokes and tubeless configuration? Thanks.
Yes, all 450MTs come in the same spec with the tubeless spoked wheels. The only variance is in high or low fender.
Great vid as always bro! Just wanted to correct the fuel consumption on the mt. Been getting at least 25kml on mixed city, hiway, trail, traffic back on the stock 14t sprocket. Now on the 15t (which is only a very cheap $20 upgrade), not only am I getting 28kms per liter, it also solved the jerkiness of the 1st/2nd gear. Some guys on fb are even reporting 31kms per liter 🙂 welcome back to the dirt side and ride tayo soon!
Thanks for the input bro!
Thank's a lot, very interesting ✌
Keep the nice work bud
bloody good review mate.
Would the 450 MT feem more planted at speed with a six foot tall 250-pound 17:20 rider?
Take a test ride, but short answer is yes
@@18lakhvinder18 Thank you.
my suggestion would be, if u already own single / twin choose the opposite, for the first bike, just test ride it. but singles provide bit more character for a first bike, when its get old eventually irreplaceable unlike twins.
I'm actually going to buy a cfmoto 450mt. All 3 are beautiful imo, the triumph is classically good looking, yet modern. The 450 mt looks the most modern and from the reviews the best value and most capable... But I personally the Himalayan is by far the best looking ❤️😎👌
Thank you for the great review and opinion, I’ve been consuming a lot of reviews about these 2 models. I think you are right regarding the design. The Himalayan 450 has that kind of retro vibe, makes me think about the Ducati Desert Sled. The MT looks too modern and actually more like a “toy” rather that a grown man moto, specially the blue and white variant, if that makes any sense.
Where do you think the new 2024 Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 fits in these three bikes? I know the looks of it are either a love it or hate it. But, it has bigger gas tank than the previous version which was a major drawback.
If the new Svart has more compliant or adjustable suspension it will be a direct alternative to the Scrambler 400X. The old one I loved to ride but was just too stiff on bumps.
Hey Aaron, great video as usual! Very good production value just like your FJ Moto docu and 450MT review. Got a question for you: if you were going to get a bike purely to ride the mountain roads and mountain passes in the Benguet province, so no highway stuff, purely mountain back-roads/zigzags and off-road/trail mountain passes (where you can expect to have to traverse muddy mini-landslides), which would you recommend between the 450MT and the Voge 300 Rally (aka the Chinese Honda CRF300L Rally) ? Thanks!
If I could afford it I'd get the CRF300 Rally! But the Voge 300 Rally sounds like a great proposition for it. If highway riding is not a consideration I don't see the point in getting something that has the size and heft of the 450MT.
@@Ride_XP Thanks for the advice man! Really appreciate it. Yeah I think I'll go for the lighter 300 as well. Keep up the great work, looking forward to your next video on the Himalayan 450 off-road test (even tho I'm not a Himalayan fan, haha).
Thanks for this video.
Really quality content. Subbed.
Hope our paths cross someday on a ride:) Amping:)
It's still in their early days, but I am looking forward to reviews when ridden with hard panniers and/or soft luggage.
Excellent comparison...