Ooh, I’ve heard about the “joy” of traveling by train in Mumbai. You are basically forced to smell other people because you’re literally stuck in their armpits.
Idiocracy happening 400 years earlier. Educated have stopped producing & idiots are producing as if there is no tomorrow. So ultimately idiots will rule the world & they have already started.
I know! Why the hell are humans so stupid as to worry about every kind of growth-related problem - oil consumption, water scarcity, pollution, deforestation, etc - except for their own mindless breeding of more consumers?
I've heard people give this shallow minded space argument before. We have plenty of space in places out in the Nevada and such. No shmit!? There is even more space in Antarctica. But the problem isn't space. The average person needs about 1 acre to feed and the average person produces at least a kilo of waste/day. Antarctica and Nevada don't have a lot of quality farm land.
I worked at a retail store through college and we would have these weekly huddles to discuss the store’s quarterly sales. Whenever we weren’t able to beat last years sales for that quarter, managers were not happy about this and even dangled “more hours” if we could ‘do better’ next quarter. I always questioned after these meetings: why all this pressure to beat “last years” sales ? Why can’t we just be content with being maintaining a steady revenue that can sustain the business? People would look at me funny when I would question this and seeing Bill pose this same question really validated the 20 year old me at that time. This way of doing business is no longer sustainable and now globally , others are suffering the consequences because of our greed and stupidity.
A lot of these places don't even offer bonuses to those retail workers who are actually selling the products. Those quarterly sales quotas were just to make the OWNERS more money, not the employees.
Your experience is a major tactic that most capitalistic ventures force on their employees that produces major employee dissolution, and stress, that destroys job satisfaction. Result: Job performance actually suffers over the long term, and consumers rebel against the high pressure tactics to sell them products they may not actually want or need. Your experience, and assessment are so correct!
We have it all wrong. It’s not about being the best. It’s not a competition. It’s not about having the most. It’s about quality. And our lifestyles affect natural animals and nature itself. This is life that’s essential. Exploitation and destruction is the cause of the impending mass extinction. $ is not life.
Same story with a company I deal with in logistics. They had "30% growth last year" and in their attempt to grow at least another 30% this year misallocated most of their money and effort and can't meet demand or keep up with that desired growth.
Because Wall St. only looks at short term results and it's all part of their game to get people to trade more so they can charge transactional fees and whatnot. However, in a competitive market, growth is very important lest you lose market share to competitors, but there is a point where a particular niche more or less reaches steady state.
@@annaku_bananasplit do you not (honestly) understand the different connotations? Yes… technically “living” and “alive” are synonyms. No, they are not the same thing.
@Anonymous Bosch i understand he's point but he's wrong. people are both being "kept alive" longer in the way he means but people are also active longer than they were a few decades ago. yes medical advances may keep someone alive who is basically a vegetable but they also let others live fulfilling lives for longer.
We are living no differently than in the days of Plato who said a Philosopher-King should be a minimum age of 65, quite stupid remark if folk never lived that long on the regular. .
NO. We literally are facing extinction from collapse. And nobody knows how to stop it even though Japan, S. Korea, China and Hungary (and others) are trying very hard… but nothing is working. We’re in trouble: th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
The same billionaires who are telling you the earth needs more consumers are the same ones desperately racing eachother to build rockets so they can leave it. So.... yeah... there's that
Yep the corporate model we must grow--grow Husband used to work for Autozone in 2017 the stock was $700/share--look at what it is today $2100/share He was the store manager all he saw was dwindling growth and playing games with employees not firing them but reducing their hours on the schedule every week until they quit--he knows those stock numbers are an artificial bubble they created
@@rickmorty5215 Think the earth's resources are infinite to sustain perpetual growth of one organism that continues to wipe out all other lifeforms in its industrialized wake of insatiable greed? You too can see yourself out. Nothing on a defined sphere is infinite, except maybe ignorance & denial.
I used to work as a cell phone sales person. The management said: "Last year was a success, we sold X amount of phones. This year we must sell X+10% or we fail." I'm like, if X was success last year, why is it a failure this year? They didn't like me much there.
because we have a system where shareholder value is paramount - unfortunately investors want more and more growth, every year into infinity or else it's not a considered a valuable investment. Too bad the days of just investing in a solid company are gone - a sizeable chunk of society isn't satisfied with a reasonable return. They want riches and they want it now! We are gluttons.
You keep on questioning authority, you have my full support. The question you asked, is the kind of question that is asking…why specifically are we doing this, and apparently the adults, and, or our “betters” at work don’t have an answer or have never questioned at all. You keep doing you👍😎
Having been raised in the Portland/Metro Oregon area some fifty years ...and an additional 15 years living in Argentina, the degradation of my hometown has left me with a few alternates upon my return which replicate those conditions I found attractive. Since the climate has changed so radically, the population grown so quickly, the wet, cold sparsely populated Pacific Northwest has rapidly become the "new" California. The likes of Southern Alaska seems best now, the wet, cold, obvious seasons, populations...like it once was in Oregon.
@@seanwickham8905 North Dakota?, maybe. Ii was thinking more like Ketchikan Alaska....lots of trees, glacier fed rivers, open spaces...My child hood nature retreat of Suttle lake OR. was ravaged by a monster forest-fire, a few years ago, I breifly revisited Oregon in the summer, I was shocked to see Mt. Hood bare of snow, looking like a giant lump of brown dirt....lakes I've plied devoid of water, yes it has changed. As an older guy, I have the benefit of time to notice the changes of the past five decades. Unfortunately, Ketchikan Alaska has those giant cruise-ships that stop by....no doubt the locals feel like the proverbial chimpanzees behind the glass...
Once again blame corporate developers such as Black Rock/Black Stone all in bed with the government we saw the same in AZ. Now there’s not enough water yet they just allowed a big developer to build a huge water park in their hotel… Really? The little guy can’t water his garden to grow food but big corp can build massive water parks! It’s not the people it’s the government and I don’t care. who you vote for dem or rep they are all the same!
@@pmstff700 But it IS the people, whether watering your garden or a corporate bigwig building a water-park...it's all the same. It really doesn't matter in the long term as the water is slowly but surely running out. And as the Colorado river runs dry before ever getting to the Mexican border, this "running dry" point along the river will only keep going upriver until it strikes a major cities only source of water...once passed that point, the panic will slowly take shape.
@@AndieBlack13... interesting take. I too am an older guy. Mid 60s. I live in southern Illinois and have definitely noticed changes in seasons. Especially winter and spring. We dont have a lack of water problem (yet) but states like Texas are eyeballing our rivers and wanting to siphon it off to raise their beef. Btw, I have no children. How many consumers have you offered up for Mr Elon Musk?
I'm an American who's been living in Japan for the last 20 years. Bill got the thing down about Japan pretty well. It is a little sad to see towns in Japan's countryside slowly disappear. But as the young people move to the big cities and the elderly population dies off this is one of the side effects. Ironically, Japan has lots of land in the countryside, but no one wants to live there as there's no industry there except tourism and that is rapidly dwindling here also.
The channel Life Where I'm From had a really good video about rural tea farmers in Japan. They definitely aren't very welcoming of letting in new people (western or Japanese) and the communities don't grow when the median age is 60. It's hard to blame them when the best case scenario is break-even earnings, dismal marriage prospects, and a life time of manual labor. When the elderly do pass and leave the land to their children they don't want to sell it or live/work on it so it often just falls into disrepair.
Yeah Japan will be okay. I know younger generations will complain about supporting the older generations. But I don't want to hear their complaining. I'm not a boomer, but gen x, but both boomers and us did the right thing by having less kids than prior generations like the Silent generation. We are leaving you all with more resources, so stop complaining. Now if we could get the 3rd world to get their birth rates down to Japan's and South Korea, or even America's. But I don't see that happening. What I do see happening is the 3rd world simply overrunning 1st world countries. Bangladesh is the big one. Their population is enormous, but much of the land will be underwater in 2100. Those people have to go somewhere.
@@JimmyMon666 You're leaving the world with less minds to solve problems. I wouldn't pat myself on the back if I were a boomer or Gen X'er, and not just for population. At least Gen X can say they were never identity-obsessed, which is a plus in their favor.
Then how about you stop consuming for ten or twenty so that someone who wants to have a kid can have one and you don’t try to CONTROL basic human activities like reproduction, you wish the government to be out of drugs and sexuality but not reproduction, get your test done, you will be positive for cult
Bill, if the world ends it won't be because of "climate change". Stop with the bull shit about climate change, you are more sensible and reasonable than that. It is not a crisis, it is not a reason to get hysterical about. The climate has and will always change, it has been changing since the beginning of time. There is no evidence that the climate change today is any different from climate change 100 years ago, of 200 years ago. Remember the ice age? When the whole earth was covered in a thick layer of ice and migrants from Asia we're able to cross from one continent to another over an ocean because of the Bering strait being frozen over? Yeah, the earth has gone through much worse phases of climate change than this current one, long before industrialization or pollution or any other anthropogenic cause. For a liberal, you are usually supremely rational, why indulge the far-left, green cultists and environmentalist whack jobs on this issue. I mean only morons like Alexandria Ocasio Cortez believe the world will end in ten years because of climate change, get real. The real thing you should be worried about is the imminent threat of global nuclear annihilation and a nuclear Holocaust, because apparently Russia hasn't learned it's lesson from the Cuban Missile Crisis and is more than willing to casually issue threats of nuclear strikes over something as trivial as territory they lost 30 years prior.
Realize, that you are living in the times when we reached the height of human population before it fell like a rock toward zero in just a few generations: (and nobody has found a way to stop it) th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
100% agreement. Everywhere there are few people, it's a paradise. Everywhere there are many, it's either concrete or a shantytown. Fewer people = better life for all.
"We haven't thought it through but who cares." Seems to be the motto of the majority of people these days. (Like the way people condemn others and demand punishment, cast the first stone- before ever even learning any facts. Guilty until proven innocent. Common sense is becoming less and less common. It's sad.
It is not common sense that is becoming less common. it is the ability for people to "reason" and figure out reality, that is being destroyed in our schools.
Spot on right. The majority of morons mimic the demented corporate aging politicians who are completely out of touch with reality. Greed is good and screw everyone else which means screw the environment and God. Then they say we can fix it when They can't.
As are many other Americans. The birth rate is down to 1.7, and has been declining for years now. Millennial's only have a birth rate of 1. Depopulation will happen before the end of the century.
@@jazer426zzzz7 You forgot that Western governments are bringing in breeders from other countries at an unparalleled speed, under the guise of "refugees", "migrants", and "foreign workers", and "family of", and "birth tourism".
10 years ago financial capitalism nearly destroyed the US and global economy in an orgy of reckless, crooked deals. The _government_ pays for by working taxpayers, bailed them out and rescued the system. But still there's a goldfish who has forgotten 2009 but quotes 1970...
"Put the free market in charge of clean air, and in a week people would have to pay for air or otherwise they'd die." - Someone who is not a complete simp for unregulated capitalism, but understands that both government and corporations are necessary *and* need to be restrained.
i still remember as a child...all the bees out around neighborhoods just buzzing...those were the good ol days...now i have to go out of my way to find bees...if any...
Love Bill when he hits it out of the park like this video. I've been saying for 20 years the biggest ponzi scheme around are the economists and business analysts that insist we must keep growing our population as the solution to our long term financial obligations instead of just living within our means.
In Cornwall England we have towns with 3 out of 5 houses unoccupied out of the holiday season while new housing estates are being built on farm land to combat the homeless crisis. What the hell!!??
Same here in Pembrokeshire. In fact, the Presbyterian Church of Wales is kicking an 85 year old woman out of the house she rented from them for nearly 30 years so they can sell it , no doubt to some city person looking for a holiday retreat. How very Christian of them.
You have no clue clue how about you guys do that too much lol I love ya ya know I got a a ton Crane and ya I know what I’m saying is right there and and I
What drives me nuts is that corporations control the world and what they created is a throw away society. I still have a 13 inch RCA color TV that works, can't pick up anything abd I only use it for my Atari 2600. My mom had a RCA console TV that lasted 25 years before the picture tube went and since there is noone to fix it she had to get a modern TV that one started having issues within 5 years, and that is actually good compared to other TV's on the market. A new TV is less expensive than it is to fix an old one. That is a real problem. Apple/Samsung creates a new phone every year and you are lucky if it lasts 2 years before it fails. This concept of throw it away and get a shiny new one is the downfall of the world. I recently had to get a new/used ATV as my old one is from 2004 and only a certain dealership can get the parts and they are hard to find due to it being old and if it breaks down again those parts will not be available. The stuff they create today is unfixable junk and ends up in a landfill leaking hazardous chemicals into the groundwater. But having products that last a lifetime is not profitable.
Yes! I buy, sell and repair Macbook pros (Becca's Macs on FB 2000 members) and I still use my 2009 iMac--its not limited at all! It is a TANK! The Mac Pros up to 2012 can still replace hard drives, batteries, fans and ram etc. The new Mac Pros NOTHING can be replaced, when they break they are throw away buy a new one I can't sell 2014 pros anymore everyone says "they're too old" I reply with I have a 2010 15" pro I use everyday to run my business and a 2009 iMac for the home--what is it little Timmy can't do on a 2014? Well my business has gone under now where for the last 10 yrs I made enough in profit to live off and hired 1 employee--the throw away culture has ended my business!!
I would say it is our ravenous appetite for the ease and convenience the big corporations and their products offer. It is definitely a symbiotic downward spiral.
It *is* America's mission statement! And the mantra of the tech industry. "Let's keep kids addicted to social media, let's keep everyone thinking they need a new iPhone every 6 months, let's keep replacing human jobs with machines, let's keep piling up plastic & metal garbage infinitely.... Haven't thought any of this through, but good for business in the short-term." 👍
If that was the case, US founders wouldn't hav made a system that's based on checks and balances,and not having an individual r individual branch of govt having absolute power etc!!
If we're truly concerned about the environment we should also consider the overconsumption of food that is running rampant in western civilization. The environmental impact of people eating more calories than their bodies need is massive. It's not only food production, but clothing too.
I never noticed it until I had adult housemates, most people are basically overgrown children and incredibly wasteful. Ruining large batches of food because they can't wait to finish cooking before getting drunk. Taking way too much then dumping out half a plate or more. Not just food, they are suckers for shiny packages and disposable garbage products. I had to convince everyone I know that I don't believe in gift exchange, because I was tired of my trash being filled with useless overpriced shit.
As an organic gardener in the Ozarks, every year I have to use more water to get through the hot spells. Higher temperatures and steady southerly winds would kill most things off were it not for hoses and sprinklers.
Try Peter Zeihan’s “The End of the World is Just the Beginning”. It’s alarming for different reasons than one would think, refreshingly plain speaking, and well thought out. (He also discusses when he’s been wrong via YT, which is a nice change!). He does address climate change in the most interesting, and I think open, way I’ve seen so far.
The end really is near then. I can't believe "Christians" don't seem to care about climate change despite it being a sign of the end times. Only Jesus can save us and while that's always been true, it rings more true now than ever before.
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I can imagine that George Carlin would applaud Bill, but also roll his eyes because he put out the same message long ago. Thank you Bill, this is spot on, long-term thinking!
I think he'd do so as well, but the eye roll would be for a different reason in my eyes. That reason being Bill is spinning it in a "the planet and nature is fucked", which George would not agree with, given his clear monologues on the topic, with his most famous and repeated line being "The earth will be just fine, but the people... the people are fucked." And to that, I couldn't agree more with George on the topic. He's spot on. The earth is going to be perfectly fine. It's humanity that's literally voluntarily suiciding itself from existence and into extinction.
@@TheCriminalViolin I stand corrected. George was in fact taking the mickey out of the 'save the planet' people. Indeed, the planet will fine - and likely glad to be rid of us!
What long term thinking? Mam, USAs total fertility is below 2. Among white population, the fertility is at 1.6. Very low. USAs population growth is sustained by Asian Americans and Hispanic population. At this rate, I long term, USAs population will become older on average. World in general and USA in particular, needs many kids.
@@TheCriminalViolin "perfectly fine" in geological terms. Carlin was making a joke. Ecosystems and the billions of species on those will suffer just as us, for several generations. Don't pretend you didn't understood that
When I was in grade school in the 50s we went for a school trip to the Hayden Planetarium. There was a large globe showing the worlds population throughout history in a timeline with lights. At first the globe was dark. Then little by little the lights began to light , then faster and faster until the present. Then the timeline was projected into the future until the globe was one large light. I may have been seven or eight but I saw the writing on the wall right then and there. I was a budding environmentalist from that moment on. None of what is happening has been any surprise to me. When politicians speak of unlimited eternal economic growth I have to just sit back and shake my head. All I can say is we get what we deserve. One reason I don't think men like Elon Musk are very bright.
@j. dragon Let me ask you, do you want a welfare state or ANY kind of social programs? Well you cannot logically support Bill Maher's position on this. Since decreasing birthrates means that there'll be less young people, and thusly a hell of a lot less tax payers to actually pay for the programs you people desire. You can say goodbye to just about any government program if birthrates continue to decline. This is the problem with all the childless and birthrate collapse loving leftists. They're actively supporting the death of the possibility of a welfare state. Since these people are usually upper middle class, and thusly them having more birthrates means there'll be a more taxable workforce. The only way to make a state function long-term without replacement level birthrates, is to either get rid of every spending program and go down the road of full laissez faire capitalist bullshit, or to go towards some dystopian hellhole where you'll never get to retire, and get shot when you can't work anymore.
You're literally describing propaganda. It's funny how the same people that force the borders open to import cheap labor also pressure anyone educated not to reproduce.
To be sure, the population is about to peak and start dropping soon globally, regardless of what politicians or business leaders want. That was the controversy that brings this up.
No. Completely wrong, and all population science knows it… regular people don’t know what’s happening. We are going infertile. th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
The human race is Thelma and Louise at the end of the movie: going off the cliff with our foot on the gas knowing full well that there's no happy ending and just saying "F*ck it"
People care, in fact 81+ million people cared and believe in climate change and conservation and alternative energy and curbing waste and pollution and consumption. It's the dirty, corrupt politicians who are 100% willing to burn tomorrow to stay warm today!
Maybe so, but if the growth of the population out paces the reduced use of resources by each individual, consumption continues to increase on a defined planet with limited resources. If I'm driving a fifty-year-old car, it may burn more fuel than a hybrid, but due to the demand of more consumers & advances in production capabilities, there are millions more hybrids & humans on the road than there ever was of my car fifty years ago. Is that real progress, or just denial to justify the continued spread of the cancer known as man?
@@erichancock6815 We are not a cancer, but on a natural expansion due to available resources. Inevitably, the expansion begins to contract when we outpace the resources. It happens constantly as a design of nature.
I cannot say enough how much I love Bill for bringing this up. It’s obvious to all of us on the ground but not to those in the ivory towers checking their stock reports
I’m sorry but I must disagree with that statement. It’s obvious that the problem lies with those on the “ground” because they are the ones who can’t stop reproducing while those in their “towers” are only exploiting that need… the people in the “towers” usually don’t have a lot of babies hence why they are living there…
Reminds me of the inscription on the Georgia Guidestones, to limit the population to 500,000,000 worldwide and leave room for nature. But of course, those inscriptions made sense, so the whole structure was bombed by some lunatic and dismantled. Never underestimate the power of ignorance and stupidity.
@@user-hf2dr7sh4y Yeah, Mother Nature has been trying to do this for decades, but the CCP suffers from the same disease as all dictators - they think they are above the law. They may be above man-made laws but have not yet realized that no one is above natural laws.
I would even argue that it IS about space. It's NICE having space. Space to roam, space to hike, open road to go for leisurely drives. Space for forests and wetlands. Wide open spaces are NICE, can we NOT rush to fill them all up?
Forests and wetlands that produce drinking water and keep the soil fertile. We have water in Florida because a tenth of the state is a swamp. And it is more like a fifteenth.
If you are talking about outer space forget it? we are no closer to colonizing any other planets then we ever have been. that's an Elon Musk pipe dream.
No. It’s about OUTER space… consciousness moving into the cosmos. If we don’t stop population collapse… we’ll never get off this rock… the only people that may survive currently are radical Islam and devout Christians. th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
I am in my 50s and have long been concerned that in my minute lifetime the World Population has more than doubled. I am not asking for a population correcting pandemic, but we need reproductive responsibility.
Does china still have that 1-2 kid law? Maybe the world will do that in the future Or maybe make it so you have to make a certain amount of money to be able to have more than 2 kids
I always have thought that people having 3+ kids is selfish, even with money there is not time for individual attention plus the demanding resources for our planet...
@@jeffreydurm Let me ask you, do you want a welfare state or ANY kind of social programs? Well you cannot logically support Bill Maher's position on this. Since decreasing birthrates means that there'll be less young people, and thusly a hell of a lot less tax payers to actually pay for the programs you people desire. You can say goodbye to just about any government program if birthrates continue to decline. This is the problem with all the childless and birthrate collapse loving leftists. They're actively supporting the death of the possibility of a welfare state. Since these people are usually upper middle class, and thusly them having more birthrates means there'll be a more taxable workforce. The only way to make a state function long-term without replacement level birthrates, is to either get rid of every spending program and go down the road of full laissez faire capitalist bullshit, or to go towards some dystopian hellhole where you'll never get to retire, and get shot when you can't work anymore.
no it doesn't... Japan's population is collapsing and they're worse off now, there's to many old retired people and not enough young people to work and pay taxes to support the old people. Young people are having to work longer hours and retirement age is getting pushed back further cause such a small amount of young people is needing to support such a high amount of elderly people.
@@dean9620 you have completely missed the big picture. think of it like downsizing a company, people get slashed at first and it's hard, like what's happening with twitter, but its necessary for survival.
Except may those for employers who support both overpopulation and/or overimmigration, to thereby flood labor pools and get away with freezing real wages well below inflation rates. Most Democrats AND Republicans are certainly on board with that too; more people means more services that then need bi-partisan action, which invariably results in larger voter pools and more chances for re-elections.
The issue with population decline isn't the amount of people but the Disparity between the old and the young like in Japan and that is suffering because there are more elderly than young adults.
That problem is temporary. Economies adjust, and over time the nation will reach a new equilibrium as lower birth rates means less elderly when that generation ages.
That's a problem of fountain-of-youth obsessed people. Normal biological longevity is reproductive age. Any year past that should be seen as a blessing, not be a demand for governments to fulfil!
Yup, demographic curves are predicting more old people than young,Mèxico has being predicting this in its own country and not much is being done despite knowing
that's because our grandparents didn't have access to birth control and had 14 kids (like my grandparents). The children from these large families are now in their 50s, 60s and 70s. This will balance out when this generation is gone.
@@hayimemaishtee as I recall, back in the eighties the average woman in Mexico had about five kids. Now it is half that, and the country is much more prosperous. That is no coincidence. Same with China. Chairman Mao rewarded families who had many children. Many starved. When they enacted their one child policy they began to prosper. A simple calculation will show that if they had maintained the population growth rate of the time the introduced the one child policy, they would have added approximately the same number of people currently in the US to their current population. It should be noted that the US is the third most populated country in the world.
@@GeekonaBike Even if Canada warms up from global warming (which it is) there's still the problem of no sunlight as you go farther north. Imagine living in a place where the sun never comes up. The farther you get from the equator, the less sunlight you get. Although people in Canada are used to it, I remember getting off a plane from Florida to Toronto in January and remembering how the sun went from being this bright yellow circle to a tiny little white dot lower down in the sky. The difference is enormous.
As a child of adoption I've never wanted children of my own and was happy to learn I am sterile. I have nothing against people who want children of their own, but when you're having upwards of 8 children you need to really stop and start adopting. It's selfish and if you want more kids so badly why can't you love a child who has never known it?
As a former foster child I feel very similar. I won't have any biological children, because there are already enough people on this world. I am however more than willing to foster children that are already here.
One of the simplest solutions (in my mind) is the one thing that no one seems to want to do: learn to live within our means. One of the major obstacles that I can see is that we live in a culture that worships its commodities populated with people who just can’t say no to the things that “society” tells hem that they “deserve”.
@@ranndino When the literal outcry of climate change is based on "Seas rising" and "CO2 emissions", it's a very major issue. Why build a seafront home if the sea will supposedly swallow it up in a few years? Why not utilize zoom to hold climate conferences instead of multiple private flights by each delegate to sit in a room and complain about the very emissions they are attributing to? The hypocrisy in the actions far outweighs the words they use to fearmonger.
I remember my dad saying, that there was a discussion by L.A. city officials in 1940, that there was "Too many people in L.A.". The population then, was 1,504,277. It is now: 12,459,000. That's city...NOT county numbers.
L.A. city is not 12 million. NYC doesn't even have 12 million. L.A. city is a little over 4 million. L.A. County may be 12 million. The metro area I believe is over 15 million.
Not city. Metropolitan statistical area. 2020 U.S. Census says MSA is 13.2 million. City is 3.973 million. It’s a lot of people. New York City has just over 20 million in the Metropolitan statistical area and 8.8 million in the actual city.
Less people on the planet wouldn't _just_ be great for the planet itself, it would also be great for the people still on it. Labor laws and worker's rights don't have much of a leg to stand on, when the "labor pool" of desperate working-age adults is so high that employees who strike/quit are easily replaceable.
One of the ugly truths I learned in economics 101 is that capitalism requires (indeed, it creates) desperate workers who are willing to work cheap. I see a future America, balkenised into seas of obscene poverty dotted by fortified islands of obscene wealth 😢
Once I found out that if you make 41k a year you are in the top 3% of the richest people on the planet. That's when I realized those wealthy they are always calling greedy and making everybody elses life suck and want to take it from them, is us.....3 billion live on less than 1000 dollars a year...
Yup, no matter what we do, much of the world keeps breeding. And then we import their excess population to have more taxable youths to provide for our elderly. Just like we import their carbon emitted products so that we don't have to emit it here. Well, that's what you get with a population that's 50% frauds and 50% assholes.
@@xsuploader mother nature corrects problems if you let her. Infertility rates increase but mankind has found ways around that. Homosexuality increases but they two want children ,they can use surrogacy or if it's two women get spent donor.natural disasters diseases, and unfortunately suicide rates along with murder increase.
Nature is pretty effective at dealing with overpopulation - famine, war, and disease work really well. People can reproduce all they want, when there's no water to be had for the love of money, you'll see pretty swift population decline. Apologies, I'm shocked that people think governments or those in charge will make difficult choices, "do the right thing" or even know what the right thing is. "It's all hopeless, just be kind to one another" - John Cleese
I'm a former liberal, then a republican, now more centrist. I think Bill is a breath of fresh air. He reminds me of a lot of my liberal friends who are open to conversation.
That's like trying to see a lions reflection in tree bark at the zoo. Leftist are blindfolded cult members with their fingers in there ears wishing to punch phantoms in the face because the TV told them to.
Why would more immigration lead to more worldwide population growth? If the world plays its cards right, immigration leads to less poverty in the developing world, which in turn decreases birth rates.
@@veganlion8662it also means people want to move in, be successful, consume more, etc. That’s not going to go away, but at least let’s not add any more people to the equation
Bill nailed it where he pointed out "Isn't running out of water a bigger problem than retirement funding?" All the arguments for "let's have more people!" are SHORT-TERM arguments: "If America has less people than China or India, they'll conquer us. If world population shrinks, a couple generations of retirees will be poor." Right. Correct. That's all probably true. But that's still WAY LESS of a problem than doubling or tripling our global resource extraction and emissions in the near future WAY before we're anywhere close being set up for renewables taking on that burden. It's not JUST population increase causing the massive resource pressures, either. It's ALSO a massive increase occurring right now in the percentage of humans shifting from 3rd world to 1st world conditions, which sounds great in the short-term, but in reality, that is currently compounding the living f*ck out of the resource extraction pressures on planet earth, LET ALONE what happens when we add more and more people by population growth.
Populations India and China don't give a F what Bill says. Overpopulation has literally NOTHING to do with the west, where we are literally declining in population... This was one of Bill's worst takes of all time. And you are not smart for liking it.
Water doesn't run out - it's literally a cycle. The only thing you can run out of are sources of clean water (if you destroy them or decrease the amount of precipitation that ends up in reservoirs). And finally, since the population of every western nation is simultaneously below replacement level right now, even after being floated by immigrants who still have a lot of kids, we can stop pushing our kids to be sterile already.
Global Extraction... Explain...? If we extract iron ore to make steel, does in magically disappear, after the steel is made... If we are running out of water, enlighten us on where its running too... ? Is it too disappearing? Society is certainly not running out of morons... and fools... God save us... So your solution, is say more Nazism and Communism, where ideologies as such kills millions... Or how about, doubling the annual abortion rates, too 100-120 million murdered souls. This the greatest of human genocides... More God damned selfish fear mongering... Lower the excess population, so there's more for you. Are you willing too give up your place at the dinner table? Instead of your insistence on someone else giving up theirs. You left wing environmentalist, think alike. The lot of you are brainwashed by the same, end of the world bullshit... The earth will go on... make no mistake... However the Meek will inherit it, not a ship of fools...
@@merc9nine Freshwaster, genius. We're nowhere close to a desalination process that is economically scaleable to a world of 12, 14, 16 billion people. Not to mention, that's one of about 20 global-scale problems by rapid population explosion.
About time population was brought up in the Climate change conversation. The loudest Climate alarmists don't seem to equate more people with more consumption of everything.
Not sure where you’ve been but population is almost the only thing they brought up for years. More recently there has been more sophisticated push back on that flawed Malthusian notion.
Oh man, this is so needed. Why would anyone in their right mind want to trade the few magnificent wild spaces we have left for "suburbs" and trailer parks. Why would we want to turn into China?? The only people who want this are the wealthy who prefer a labour pool that is numerous and desperate to the point of compliance. Plus, the lessons of history are that when a population decline occurs, the middle class gets more prosperous. Granted, previous declines have been involuntary (plague, etc), but we could manage it at a level that avoids that kind of trauma.
Please tell this to Canadians...because we are literally doing this through our stupid immigration policies. What Bill Maher just said here would be considered racist in Canada. What is happening? Well finite resources like: homes, food, cars are seeing insane price hikes in Canada. Not to mention the carbon footprint of bringing someone from a third-world country to here would dramatically increase their carbon footprint. Our healthcare system is failing, our highway infrastructure stalling - the govt refuses to build more, but keeps bringing in a record number of people. The defense is..."well, we need someone to do these crappy jobs that locals will not do for garbage tier wages...let them immigrants do it", so we have insane wage stagnation. Result is: a crumbling infrastructure with insanely unaffordable life, do not come to Canada.
The wealthy want the poor to keep breeding. That way poor kids fight in the wars and work the dangerous jobs so the children of the wealthy don't have to.
My buddy in Texas worked for a company that built suburbs and his whole job was going out to sites where they were chopping down forests to pave it over. He made gooood money but he quit after six months because he got depressed.
What the hell are you talking about? Are you really that naive? China is a huge country, they have more wild spaces than human spaces. China is becoming the top super power in the world because partly because of their population. The big problem with the US is that our government doesn't give two craps about its people
Thank you Bill for stating this fact! I’ve been saying this for decades now and it’s only made me a pariah. Our system is entirely based on never ending growth which I is also the nature of cancer- it won’t end well
@@rimshot2270 He is in the comedy business. The problem lies in policy. All “western” nations have birth rates hovering at around 1.7 per couple I believe, it’s just that the governments are deep in debt therefore requiring population increases to service the debt which is why immigration from poor countries is pushed. In poor countries having lots of kids is what gives the elderly security in retirement
@@jamesbuscher701 If he wants to criticize governments, which is his right, he must accept the right of other people to criticize him. He thinks he is more than a comic, no matter what he says.
Well, if you think "overpopulation" is a real problem... ...then you'll be very happy to learn that our Malthusian "Elite" *have **_already done something_** about it!* If you haven't caught on yet, you will...
So true. I was born and raised in California and the population has doubled since I was a kid in 1970s. I wouldn’t say the overall quality of life here has actually improved over that 45 year span except for air pollution which has been greatly reduced. We still have too many people for the limited water supply and our aging infrastructure.
Thank you, thank you, thank you finally someone states the obvious. We’ve added 100 million people to the US and now we don’t have enough water. Droughts have always happened periodically, but California didn’t have 40 million people that wanted to drink, bathe, do laundry or have irrigated crops to eat throughout history. Yes we can build desalination plants, but they use a tremendous amount of energy. People say “Well let’s just use solar panels”, but they have issues with creating huge amounts of toxic waste and taking huge amounts of land out of the ecosystem that we need to keep the natural cycles working. We can’t just engineer a complete environment and ecosystem without nature or we would already be living on Mars.
That's a straw-man. We could support many more, with sane infrastructure, which could only happen under different economics than our current vampiric capitalism (which isn't at all a "free market").
Uh, do know how long it took the US to add 100,000,000 people? It took 100 years literally. And the droughts that are happening are not because of an increase in population mostly, but mostly because of climate change due to global warming. But because of climate change, huge parts of the west including California are about to become deserts. It will take about 10-20 years to happen, but it is going to happen.
According to the census bureau the population was 226 million in 1980 and 331 million in 2020. That’s more than 100 million in forty years. But we have a lot of undocumented people which makes the climb even higher. Also your correct that capitalism is a factor because it raises the quality of life for the masses and that is why people come here. Socialism creates hardship and does decrease population but that is not a smart solution to population growth
@@oscarbauer1322 How exactly does socialism create hardship? The US started socialism under FDR with works programs and social security and later added Medicare and Medicaid under Johnson. How have any of those programs created hardship? Europe and Japan have adopted even broader versions of socialism to ensure that everyone is cared for with including national health insurance. Perhaps you don't understand what socialism is?
Interestingly, Soylent Green (1973) was set in the year 2022 ! And did you notice that the climate was hot, dry, dusty, and windy? The term global warming didn't exist then, but the film is eerily spot on about so many things, like drought, food shortages, homelessness, civil unrest, street crime, assisted suicide and corporate government 😮
Ok. Did he also explain how he wants to solve the problems of those who have the most children? They don't have retirement money, no health insurance. They have to rely on many children. As long as we only have morons pointing out the problem but not having a solution, we're just a bunch of idiots acting smart. Do you still think this was a great move from Maher or did he just fill a few minutes of talking time saying nothing? And the Duracell monkeys just keep on clapping 😂
@@h.g.buddne ...you make a good point. Perhaps the message needs to first get across, then the solutions? This is such a taboo subject in the first place.
This was the hot topic when I was a kid, 50 years ago. It was a priority for Bush I, until it was explained to him and others that in order to make huge amounts of money, that we needed an ever growing population. Earth be damned.
The world population in 1960 was just over three billion. There were plenty of large cities for those who like living in them (and normal middle class people could still afford to live in cities such as San Francisco and New York), and I don't think anyone was looking around back then thinking to themselves "There are far too few humans on this planet."
In 1960 there were fewer than 100000 80+ year olds in the U.S. There are 2-3 Million alive today in the U.S. The fertility rate is 25% what it was in 1960. The population is growing older. Look at our last two geriatric presidents.
Religion just wants members... that's why they are against birth control and abortion. The catholic church is a big cult that keeps many chained into the vicious circle of compulsion repetition. Humanity is doomed. I have given up on humanity and I consider myself divorced from humanity.
An elderly relative in the 90’s made a comment that I thought horrid at the time. “Since the 60’s only the dim breed in great numbers and those who build/create keep dieing off with one kid at most.” I’ve noticed since then he’s right. The smart know how to entertain themselves with non-sexual pursuits while the economically challenged seek the cheapest, easiest to access entertainment and little thought to the train wrecks they drag the accidental children through.
@@tonysmith8163 beat me to that one. It's a movie that came out in 2005. The whole premise of the movie is showing what the world will look like in 500 years "if current trends continue."
Ha ha did you do that Biden gibberish on purpose smart people vs poor people? trust me there are smart economicly challenged people and absolutely there are dumb ass trust fund babies. Rich and poor as well as educated and illiterate all have an instinctual desire to procreate. Ild be more inclined to agree that ugly introverted people keep themselves occupied.
@@mickyboymccoy7632: It's closer to truth than fiction. America consumes 25% more energy per capita, than all other nations. That number also reflects the massive amounts of energy consumed by the largest military the world has ever seen, the U.S. military, spread across the globe with over 800 admitted military bases. Which that in itself would be dangerous consumption, but coupled with the actual energy consumption of war, which the U.S. is engaged in everyday somewhere around the world, you can easily see how it all adds up. And while America represents less than 5% of the world's population, it incarcerates 25% of the world's prisoners. That's another factual statistic that I have no doubt you'll object to, but is none the less true.
@@Vanderearden We also produce a lot of that energy and use it to feed and clothe people all over the world. What are we supposed to do? "Sacrifice" and live like Third World peasants? That won't do any good. Life is not a zero-sum game.
@@rimshot2270: I'm not even sure how to respond to your misguided ideas. While America has been the global leader in pumping oil for 8 years, it is NOT the leader in oil production. Hence, the skyrocketing price of fuel, a lack of refinement production. That and good old fashioned price gouging, done under the cover of inflation. America hasn't built a refinery since 1979, and in that time has lost half a dozen facilities due to aging out and catastrophic damage. Oil is useless unless it's refined into fuel, and right now, America's remaining refineries are running at max capacity, creating an artificial shortage due to a staggering lack of refining capacity. By design. And this idea that America feeds and clothes the poor around the world is a ludicrous myth. America can't even feed, cloth and house it's own. America is sanctioning over 35 countries. Ask the poor folks of Somalia, Yemen, Uganda, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Syria, Libya, etc. how helpful America has been to them. After 20 years and 6 trillion dollars spent in Afghanistan, helping those people, America immediately slapped sanctions on them when departing. America is now actively starving to death the very people they claimed to be helping for 20 years. It's time to put to bed this idea of "American Exceptionalism". America is in a death spiral and none of these grandiose myths are gonna save it until American citizens wake up to the reality of America's failing imperialism.
@@Vanderearden Folks in the USA may use 25% more energy per person than say those in India etc. with our Washers and Dryers and such. But we don't use 25% of worlds global energy or contribute 25% of the earth pollution. Now go home and get your shine-box!!
Remember the next time someone says "we dont have enough food to feed the world" that we dump wheat, corn and soybeans into the ocean to regulate market price. Farmers are told not to plant certain crops to help control prices. To think that we cant feed the world is absurd.
The reverse is also true. Lots of people who are saying "we need more people" are implying "we need more people like me so we can defeat the people who are not like me"
What about people saying that to be alive is an amazing gift? And the data that shows that with more people, we have more food and less poverty than ever before - and not from stealing lol. From productivity and innovation - created by... people :) wonderful people. There is some merit maybe to some of this, until it gets practical, who is not allowed to have kids, or forced abortions etc. ugly real quick
@@cordeauxboi cornucopian b*llsh*t. As he pointed out. Limited potable water and resources for growing food. One child is good, two are enough, zero is great.
Yes, the rich say about needing more people as they need more labour who will be ready to work on less money. If one leaves hundreds will be ready for that position. More people also means more staff selling. They just need people for their own financial growth.
Everyone likes to trash talk Malthus but he was correct. His assertions are not a theory, they are basic irrefutable ecological principles. Based on simple observations and not laboratory experiments. Those who smugly dismiss Malthus are fools
The best cause that I’ve seen Bill take up. Thank you Bill for talking about this. Too many think talking about reducing the population is taboo or even racist. We are doing incalculable damage to the wildlife population and breeding ourselves into huge future problems.
YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! The only downside of a decreasing population is the breakdown of infinite growth models for businesses. But lets face it, a shrinking economy would be worth it as long as the planet is still a place worth living. We love ya Bill!
@@chaschristiansen That goal of 500,000,000 was inscribed on the Georgia Guidestones, which was bombed and dismantled about three weeks ago. It's why I have no hope for the future of our species. The powers of ignorance, stupidity and greed are just too entrenched.
@@donmiller2908 you thinks it's not the greedy who want population decline? It's our most elite that think they will be the survivors. Elites all have children and pass policy making children and life in general consistently more complicated. This won't end with a decline in world population just a restructuring of world dominance and a return to lots of war.
@@donmiller2908 ahh yes. 500 million white people you mean. Oh please. The earth can sustain around 80 to 100 billion people before we would need to find a way to replace the resources we used up. By then, we would have had more innovations in recycling and food science. We'll be fine.
Actually, birth rates in most developed countries are actually falling. Developed countries (like America) are the biggest contributors to pollution & emissions. So it is our practices that is causing problems...so as long has we are gluttonous consumers there will continue to be a problem.
The main reason for the birthrate decline is economic. If you have an economic environment where your average 25-year-old cannot afford to have 3 kids, then you are going to see birth rates go into decline as people wait longer to start families or don't have them at all. If you are paying back your student loans and barely make 40K a year, you aren't exactly positioned to have a large family
@@TheJadedJames I think the other reason, which Bill has discussed before, is that people aren't hooking up as much either. I think people are realizing that masturbation is sometimes better lol. Actually it's usually better to be honest.
@@SomethingSomethingg Masturbation is absolutely not better than actually having sex. But I am also overworked and barely making enough money to comfortably support myself, which especially since the pandemic has made dating less of a prospect because it requires the combination of free time and money
I am so tried of hearing people go off on this population collapse thing. We need to start calling it ... sanity. I just can't see any evidence that this won't be a great thing for the average person... and a great humbling moment for the gov't and corporations which are too big.
I like Bill. I usually don’t agree with most of his views, but I respect him and I’m 100% with him on this. By the way, I put my money where my mouth is, my wife and I chose never to have children. At least there are 1-3 less people here on earth 👍🏽
@@verbalkint4258 I've found estimates on costs of children wildly exaggerated, and usually with built in assumption of college costs. I paid my way and they can pay theirs if they desire. I've also found the return on children to be very rewarding. But we all spend money in our own way.
@Antony O'Callaghan Let me ask you, do you want a welfare state or ANY kind of social programs? Well you cannot logically support Bill Maher's position on this. Since decreasing birthrates means that there'll be less young people, and thusly a hell of a lot less tax payers to actually pay for the programs you people desire. You can say goodbye to just about any government program if birthrates continue to decline. This is the problem with all the childless and birthrate collapse loving leftists. They're actively supporting the death of the possibility of a welfare state. Since these people are usually upper middle class, and thusly them having more birthrates means there'll be a more taxable workforce. The only way to make a state function long-term without replacement level birthrates, is to either get rid of every spending program and go down the road of full laissez faire capitalist bullshit, or to go towards some dystopian hellhole where you'll never get to retire, and get shot when you can't work anymore.
@@Autconscipatheonive first : " you people " ? Second : what if your country actually started taxing the rich. Oh and don't tell me they do because the amount is just ridiculous. Here in France I give 60 % of my income in taxes because I earn a lot and have a lot of properties. Also hey !! Here's a great idea : let's start taxing mega churches, how about decreasing military budget, government budget etc... I mean the possibilities are endless. But hey let's automatically say it's impossible and that it wouldn't work instead of actually looking for solutions 😅
When I see a couple with 3 or more kids it's like seeing someone still smoking cigarettes. They can know the dangers of both, but are addicted to their own desires.
No. You’re not up to date on the science. We’re going to be *gone* in just a few generations unless we figure it out: th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
Amazingly we keep plowing under farm and ranch land to put in the next housing development. Is it any wonder that we are demanding more of ever decreasing fertile land.
Fertile land isn't the only issue. All resources are finite. More people = quicker depletion. Less chances of that which is renewable to be renewed before total depletion. It's very simple. We need less people. Quit praising people having children
Earth as a planet will.survive but not an eco system, we've lost and are losing losing millions of species, now hundreds of lakes and rivers, and of course the ice caps.
@@nicknitro4420 Here's your logic, our street is on fire but I'm not going to put water on my house unless my neighbors put water on theirs. Oh and I helped cause the fire too.
Kind of amazed to hear Bill essentially speak against a major tenant of capitalism. I fully support his argument, one cannot have never ending exponential growth without these horrific consequences.
The ones who "love" their kids and agree with Bill will inevitably want to limit their own children's future reproduction capacity, consciously or unconsciously. Oh, right, I almost forget that this is exactly the emerging form of child abuse coming from the left under the guise of gender identities.
@@HebrewHammer1337 Sex feels too good, and condoms completely kill the sensation. So people have to rationalize when they have an "unexpected" pregnancy.
@@HebrewHammer1337 nope. Are you sure you understand the word "hypocritical". Hypocritical would be agreeing and then CHOOSING to have 10 children. Loving the children that you already have is not counter to understanding and respecting the problem. You may as well say that people who understand the problem of an aging population therefore cannot love their grandparents because it's hypocritical.
What an absolute baboon. You want to lower the population? Start with yourself. God made the earth and said be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth. He made it by His word and sustains it by his word. Just because you don't believe that does not make you right. How about we talk about the agendas that are happening? Seeding the sky? No evidence of climate change? The sensationalizing of weather. Fake gas shortage? Energy shortage? lol In 536ad there was a fog over the whole world. A volcano erupted and sent the world into darkness. Who's carbon footprint did that? Predictions from the 1960's, 70's 80's 90's that never came true. No these lost souls possessed by unclean spirits that run governments are the problem of the world. In 20/20 they started full boar their agenda to destabilize the world to bring about the solutions they want in the world, with lies of pandemic, and now a war that they blame is disrupting the supply chain and gas and food. If you believe these people are doing a good job at their job, you are the pandemic. But it doesn't matter, they are doing their job of the WEF. They openly say they are making a transition in the world. They can't change a hair on their head but tout they can control the weather and the world. lol And i have news for you, God said man would do this in the end, to openly try to remove God from His creation once and for all. And... he laughs. And comes back to set up His kingdom, and to stop those who are destroying the earth. And isn't it funny that's exactly what they are doing. If you feel lead to curb the population so much in your heart, Then be a martyr for the cause.
He's manipulating the truth. The world is giving birth to more old people not young. The fertility rate is below replacement level in most countries however the number of old people (60+) staying alive has exploded.
So True! 🌍I’ve been asked to donate my dollars to many charities that are promoting… “Feed the Children” Starting in the 80’s My response to the charity organizations…”I’ll donate to their charities when they spend the same amount of dollars on Birth Control education & support” (Usually stops them in their tracks)🌍
Thank You, at 67 i’ve watched our country double in population in just my lifetime. What has changed homelessness, poverty, failing infrastructure, criminal activity & violence, affordable healthcare, climate, haves vs have nots, etc..
It's not population that causes that. Homelessness if because we fucked our economy and refuse to change zoning away from single family homes. Poverty is because we fucked our economy by outsourcing our manufacturing. Crime is because we fucked our society and destroyed the nuclear family at the same time as you guessed it - we fucked the economy. And yet the elites always push the same thing: "let's fuck the economy harder, as long as you poors can stop breeding too!"
The interesting thing is... moving from a perpetual growth economy to a static one is not easy. Banking, for one, as currently practiced, absolutely depends on continuous growth. But, like you say, growth is not sustainable. Fun fact: New York's Manhattan was supposedly purchased from Native Americans for $24 (never mind the facts). But with very modest compound interest, that $24 would grow into the current actual value of the island.
I've been preaching about this problem for over a decade. Nobody listened. Everyone censored my comments and banned them. Amazing that someone else finally caught on. Thanks Bill Maher.
People should wait till they have money till they have kids. Studies are showing that people with little to no money are having the more kids than anybody else, and that literally puts a strain on our resources and government programs.
Then let's allow for family planning, like birth control and abortions, for families that aren't ready. One political party is reducing the choices available to those couples, or women, not ready for children.
And here is the fatal flaw in capitalism. When your aim is infinite growth you require infinite resources. A growing population is a great way of almost guaranteeing constant growth. But the other effects are swept under the carpet to focus on the money, even when they include environmental collapse and the apocalypse. I have been combating the nihilism created by this understanding since I was 12. Having to listen to the blissfully ignorant call me a commie, sheep, and the ones who saw the truth claiming that you can't change the system because it's too strong. We will reap what we have sown, and everyone will wonder why it played out that way. We have just launched a telescope that can see light from the earliest stars and galaxies nearly 14 billion years ago. And yet we can't see the consequences of our actions a couple of decades down the line.
Capitalism isn't a problem I don't think. If people love money, that is a problem of the heart to be fixed by the knowledge of the word of God. It's not the fault of a free market.
People who are religious and follow sports are conditioned for obedience. And don’t question shit like this. When Elon and jack Ma founder of Ali Baba agree on this, it’s a core tenet of capitalism-you gotta have a population clambering over each other trying to rise and kept in the dark so they don’t know how they’re getting fucked.
It’s amazing how we have the technology to do wonderful things that would really help people with basic things like food and water. Desalination plants in Israel for example . Funny how here in America, with California living beside a massive amount of water has droughts and water shortages and forest fires. Too bad the government couldn’t put a little money into something that would actually make lives better and could create jobs and possibly even electricity without the use of fossil fuels.
I disagree with your last point but overall yes the government here in the US doesn't give two craps about its own people. They just care about their own personal interests at the expense of everyone else. That's not democracy
The hallmark and saving grace of capitalism is supposed to be efficiency in distribution of goods to all. Criticize greed and the instant response is that this is the best way to see everyone get access to new technologies. Sometimes that happens, but the examples you listed reveal how hollow it is as a philosophical truism. Corporate/government power are not solving our long-term sustainability problems, and they aren't even efficiently distributing the goods and technologies we have. We have the sort of governments in America where you can have poor people suffering thirst 10 miles from a hub of industrialists and scientists and technocrats 10 miles from an *ocean* and yet everyone acts like the only thing to do is debate between the letters R and D. We could use some R&D instead.
@@phantomcosmonaut9127 It actually is democracy. Democracy is all about driving popularity to line the pockets of people. That is why the United States was established as a Constitutional Republic. Unfortunately, the Civilwar ended that and and the U.S. evolved into a Democracy. With the advent of increasing social welfare programs in the early-mid 1900's, The U.S. has taken a strong turn towards Socialism. In the recent few decades it has moved into Autocratic Socialism, still disguising itself as "Democracy" with some remnants of its Constitutional past. The autocracy isn't a single person or "party", its a manipulation of every agency of the government being control by a single political platform and ideology. Often referenced as "Deep State", a long time ago powerful people realized that holding elected office didn't matter if you created enough agency's that actually controlled the policies and procedures.
The small county I live in in Nova Scotia has lost 3000 people since 2000. We have way more deaths than births....The only thing that keeps many places running is migrant workers. We also have a wildlife problem. Lack of hunting and trapping has deer, bear, and raccoon populations exploding. 80% of local car body repairs is collisions with deer. Deer walk around here like dogs they are so numerous. Beavers, minks, and muskrats are swarming out of the swamps destroying property and livestock. We had to have 4 beavers trapped by the DNR cause the fruit trees were attacked. Bald eagles are so plenty they are killing some of the more native species off. We have so many lobster and halibut that they can't be sold and millions of pounds are on ice for markets. The whole world isn't California.
The whole world isn't the rich English-speaking West either. I understand, in your town population decrease is causing problems but these aren't global problems. Let's say, you won't be able to fish anymore - because the edible fish will be extinct. Let's say, the migrants wouldn't be migrant workers but just desperate migrants fleeing unbearably hot countries with no food, and there would be 20 times more of them. Let's say, we will have a pandemic every 5 years. Those are global problems. Yours can be solved (which shouldn't sound patronizing from me, just hopeful :-)
@@Nepthu Fewer people! As in, allow people a choice to not breed!! In America, women don't have the choice for reproduction; in other countries, women don't have the choice for abstinence... Stop thinking alike an American and realize women's reproductive health is a global issue!!!
I guess you weren’t listening. We’re a little late for any workable solution but try this idea - Stop having children. It’s too late anyway, the human race will be gone in 100 years. I’m just glad I won’t be around to see it. I do feel bad for my grandkids though.
@@MeMe-lx2jw if you live in Japan (I grew up there so you're living there means nothing), why don't you understand the whole society understands it's facing everlasting stagnation and hardship due to 高齢化社会 - basically in the newspapers everyday for at least the last decade.. Doesn't need to grow its population, but certainly will suffer for a century (or indefinitely) as it shrinks...
"The planet is fine, the people are fucked!"
~ George Carlin
"Pack your shit folks..we're going away." Gawd I miss Carlin.
"Trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body." -George Carlin
@@Omni0404 WHat comedy special is that line from?
Earth wanted plastic, but didn't know how to make it herself. So she made us and now that there's plastic we're not needed anymore
"The planet is fucked , the people are more fucked"
~ me
As an Indian who travels daily by local trains in Mumbai, I approve this message.
Seconded
Ooh, I’ve heard about the “joy” of traveling by train in Mumbai. You are basically forced to smell other people because you’re literally stuck in their armpits.
We need to decentralise population from Metro cities to smaller villages and towns otherwise in few years people will struggle to breathe.
Idiocracy happening 400 years earlier. Educated have stopped producing & idiots are producing as if there is no tomorrow. So ultimately idiots will rule the world & they have already started.
Do us a favor
The great Ed Abbey said "Uncontrolled growth is the philosophy of the cancer cell".
I was thinking of the same quote.
Well that's what humans are in relation to this planet.
That's also mentioned in the matrix movie by androids that humans are a parasite
Shame on you for pushing an agenda that someone else is using to deliberately decieve just for a buck.
@@Natasha-nu4fk What agenda is that?
What drives me crazy is just because there is space doesn't mean we should fill it with people.
It's competitive use of space by many moving parts ..
The only reason you’d want to fill it to raise land value.
I know! Why the hell are humans so stupid as to worry about every kind of growth-related problem - oil consumption, water scarcity, pollution, deforestation, etc - except for their own mindless breeding of more consumers?
I've heard people give this shallow minded space argument before. We have plenty of space in places out in the Nevada and such. No shmit!? There is even more space in Antarctica. But the problem isn't space. The average person needs about 1 acre to feed and the average person produces at least a kilo of waste/day. Antarctica and Nevada don't have a lot of quality farm land.
I worked at a retail store through college and we would have these weekly huddles to discuss the store’s quarterly sales. Whenever we weren’t able to beat last years sales for that quarter, managers were not happy about this and even dangled “more hours” if we could ‘do better’ next quarter.
I always questioned after these meetings: why all this pressure to beat “last years” sales ? Why can’t we just be content with being maintaining a steady revenue that can sustain the business? People would look at me funny when I would question this and seeing Bill pose this same question really validated the 20 year old me at that time. This way of doing business is no longer sustainable and now globally , others are suffering the consequences because of our greed and stupidity.
A lot of these places don't even offer bonuses to those retail workers who are actually selling the products. Those quarterly sales quotas were just to make the OWNERS more money, not the employees.
Your experience is a major tactic that most capitalistic ventures force on their employees that produces major employee dissolution, and stress, that destroys job satisfaction. Result: Job performance actually suffers over the long term, and consumers rebel against the high pressure tactics to sell them products they may not actually want or need. Your experience, and assessment are so correct!
We have it all wrong. It’s not about being the best. It’s not a competition. It’s not about having the most. It’s about quality.
And our lifestyles affect natural animals and nature itself. This is life that’s essential. Exploitation and destruction is the cause of the impending mass extinction.
$ is not life.
Same story with a company I deal with in logistics. They had "30% growth last year" and in their attempt to grow at least another 30% this year misallocated most of their money and effort and can't meet demand or keep up with that desired growth.
Because Wall St. only looks at short term results and it's all part of their game to get people to trade more so they can charge transactional fees and whatnot. However, in a competitive market, growth is very important lest you lose market share to competitors, but there is a point where a particular niche more or less reaches steady state.
We're not living longer, we're being kept alive longer, which I think is as worthy of a topic to address as birth rate.
@@annaku_bananasplit do you not (honestly) understand the different connotations? Yes… technically “living” and “alive” are synonyms. No, they are not the same thing.
That you Richard?
@Anonymous Bosch i understand he's point but he's wrong. people are both being "kept alive" longer in the way he means but people are also active longer than they were a few decades ago. yes medical advances may keep someone alive who is basically a vegetable but they also let others live fulfilling lives for longer.
We are living no differently than in the days of Plato who said a Philosopher-King should be a minimum age of 65, quite stupid remark if folk never lived that long on the regular. .
A self-aware AI will take care of all of this.
The "aged and feeble aka congress" was the best line in this bit
Definitely
Nah.
So true
Yes that was gold!
That was good 😆😜
Great job! We need to hear more of this!!
NO. We literally are facing extinction from collapse. And nobody knows how to stop it even though Japan, S. Korea, China and Hungary (and others) are trying very hard… but nothing is working. We’re in trouble: th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
The same billionaires who are telling you the earth needs more consumers are the same ones desperately racing eachother to build rockets so they can leave it. So.... yeah... there's that
They earn their billions by people who consume. AKA Don't get facts from those with a vested interest!
THIS ☝️
@@user-jy3zl2vp4b my argument all along! Why do we need to consume so unnecessarily?
We’re being misled.
Space mining is the future.
Or you have guys like John Kerry the so called climate expert that has put out over 300 tons of CO2 this year
Growth for the sake of growth is the philosophy of a cancer cell---Edward Abbey, the great Southwestern author from Tucson.
Yep the corporate model we must grow--grow
Husband used to work for Autozone in 2017 the stock was $700/share--look at what it is today $2100/share
He was the store manager all he saw was dwindling growth and playing games with employees not firing them but reducing their hours on the schedule every week until they quit--he knows those stock numbers are an artificial bubble they created
Facts
Think the earth is overpopulated? Ok, then please see yourself out.
@@rickmorty5215 Just stop the collectivists and it will sort itself out....the weak were never meant to survive...Natures law, not ours..
@@rickmorty5215 Think the earth's resources are infinite to sustain perpetual growth of one organism that continues to wipe out all other lifeforms in its industrialized wake of insatiable greed? You too can see yourself out. Nothing on a defined sphere is infinite, except maybe ignorance & denial.
I used to work as a cell phone sales person. The management said: "Last year was a success, we sold X amount of phones. This year we must sell X+10% or we fail." I'm like, if X was success last year, why is it a failure this year? They didn't like me much there.
because we have a system where shareholder value is paramount - unfortunately investors want more and more growth, every year into infinity or else it's not a considered a valuable investment. Too bad the days of just investing in a solid company are gone - a sizeable chunk of society isn't satisfied with a reasonable return. They want riches and they want it now! We are gluttons.
If you ever ask how much will satisfy the answer will always be more.
You keep on questioning authority, you have my full support. The question you asked, is the kind of question that is asking…why specifically are we doing this, and apparently the adults, and, or our “betters” at work don’t have an answer or have never questioned at all. You keep doing you👍😎
And I doubt they mentioned a raise
The answer is that it is a Ponzi scheme.
Having been raised in the Portland/Metro Oregon area some fifty years ...and an additional 15 years living in Argentina, the degradation of my hometown has left me with a few alternates upon my return which replicate those conditions I found attractive. Since the climate has changed so radically, the population grown so quickly, the wet, cold sparsely populated Pacific Northwest has rapidly become the "new" California. The likes of Southern Alaska seems best now, the wet, cold, obvious seasons, populations...like it once was in Oregon.
Or.....North Dakota?
@@seanwickham8905 North Dakota?, maybe. Ii was thinking more like Ketchikan Alaska....lots of trees, glacier fed rivers, open spaces...My child hood nature retreat of Suttle lake OR. was ravaged by a monster forest-fire, a few years ago, I breifly revisited Oregon in the summer, I was shocked to see Mt. Hood bare of snow, looking like a giant lump of brown dirt....lakes I've plied devoid of water, yes it has changed. As an older guy, I have the benefit of time to notice the changes of the past five decades.
Unfortunately, Ketchikan Alaska has those giant cruise-ships that stop by....no doubt the locals feel like the proverbial chimpanzees behind the glass...
Once again blame corporate developers such as Black Rock/Black Stone all in bed with the government we saw the same in AZ. Now there’s not enough water yet they just allowed a big developer to build a huge water park in their hotel… Really? The little guy can’t water his garden to grow food but big corp can build massive water parks! It’s not the people it’s the government and I don’t care. who you vote for dem or rep they are all the same!
@@pmstff700 But it IS the people, whether watering your garden or a corporate bigwig building a water-park...it's all the same. It really doesn't matter in the long term as the water is slowly but surely running out. And as the Colorado river runs dry before ever getting to the Mexican border, this "running dry" point along the river will only keep going upriver until it strikes a major cities only source of water...once passed that point, the panic will slowly take shape.
@@AndieBlack13... interesting take. I too am an older guy. Mid 60s. I live in southern Illinois and have definitely noticed changes in seasons. Especially winter and spring. We dont have a lack of water problem (yet) but states like Texas are eyeballing our rivers and wanting to siphon it off to raise their beef.
Btw, I have no children.
How many consumers have you offered up for Mr Elon Musk?
I'm an American who's been living in Japan for the last 20 years. Bill got the thing down about Japan pretty well. It is a little sad to see towns in Japan's countryside slowly disappear. But as the young people move to the big cities and the elderly population dies off this is one of the side effects. Ironically, Japan has lots of land in the countryside, but no one wants to live there as there's no industry there except tourism and that is rapidly dwindling here also.
The channel Life Where I'm From had a really good video about rural tea farmers in Japan. They definitely aren't very welcoming of letting in new people (western or Japanese) and the communities don't grow when the median age is 60. It's hard to blame them when the best case scenario is break-even earnings, dismal marriage prospects, and a life time of manual labor. When the elderly do pass and leave the land to their children they don't want to sell it or live/work on it so it often just falls into disrepair.
Yeah so. Get out of Coastal CA cities and it is just a sea of rural poor.
Yeah Japan will be okay. I know younger generations will complain about supporting the older generations. But I don't want to hear their complaining. I'm not a boomer, but gen x, but both boomers and us did the right thing by having less kids than prior generations like the Silent generation. We are leaving you all with more resources, so stop complaining. Now if we could get the 3rd world to get their birth rates down to Japan's and South Korea, or even America's. But I don't see that happening. What I do see happening is the 3rd world simply overrunning 1st world countries. Bangladesh is the big one. Their population is enormous, but much of the land will be underwater in 2100. Those people have to go somewhere.
@@donaldkasper8346 you don't hit real rural poor till you get passed Denver and get into Kansas.
@@JimmyMon666 You're leaving the world with less minds to solve problems. I wouldn't pat myself on the back if I were a boomer or Gen X'er, and not just for population. At least Gen X can say they were never identity-obsessed, which is a plus in their favor.
"It's not about space, it's about resources." -Ditto Bill!
We have more resources now than ever before
@@vinnydurham8964 ya and it still not enough
Caus we also have more people now than ever before
@@mokhtarchali7019 we have enough we are just wasteful. Famine is lower now than any time in history. Resources aren't running out
@@vinnydurham8964 We have more PEOPLE than ever before
Then how about you stop consuming for ten or twenty so that someone who wants to have a kid can have one and you don’t try to CONTROL basic human activities like reproduction, you wish the government to be out of drugs and sexuality but not reproduction, get your test done, you will be positive for cult
Remember in 1989 when Issac Asimov wrote Nemesis and talked about an overpopulated earth with 8 billion people on it? We're here ahead of schedule.
Bill, if the world ends it won't be because of "climate change". Stop with the bull shit about climate change, you are more sensible and reasonable than that. It is not a crisis, it is not a reason to get hysterical about. The climate has and will always change, it has been changing since the beginning of time. There is no evidence that the climate change today is any different from climate change 100 years ago, of 200 years ago. Remember the ice age? When the whole earth was covered in a thick layer of ice and migrants from Asia we're able to cross from one continent to another over an ocean because of the Bering strait being frozen over? Yeah, the earth has gone through much worse phases of climate change than this current one, long before industrialization or pollution or any other anthropogenic cause. For a liberal, you are usually supremely rational, why indulge the far-left, green cultists and environmentalist whack jobs on this issue. I mean only morons like Alexandria Ocasio Cortez believe the world will end in ten years because of climate change, get real. The real thing you should be worried about is the imminent threat of global nuclear annihilation and a nuclear Holocaust, because apparently Russia hasn't learned it's lesson from the Cuban Missile Crisis and is more than willing to casually issue threats of nuclear strikes over something as trivial as territory they lost 30 years prior.
Not drew-
There's a lot of futuristic disasters that got here sooner than we thought.
That was a great book. The setting is the 23rd century. People have been fucking a lot.
Realize, that you are living in the times when we reached the height of human population before it fell like a rock toward zero in just a few generations: (and nobody has found a way to stop it) th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
100% agreement. Everywhere there are few people, it's a paradise. Everywhere there are many, it's either concrete or a shantytown. Fewer people = better life for all.
If that were true then people would move to North Dakota
OMG, decades ago most people knew each neighbor by name! No mobs rushing thru the streets either. `It must have been Hell on Earth!´ 🤣
No. We are literally facing near extinction in just a few generations. No life for any.
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"We haven't thought it through but who cares." Seems to be the motto of the majority of people these days.
(Like the way people condemn others and demand punishment, cast the first stone- before ever even learning any facts.
Guilty until proven innocent. Common sense is becoming less and less common. It's sad.
It is not common sense that is becoming less common. it is the ability for people to "reason" and figure out reality, that is being destroyed in our schools.
sad indeed
Probably because no developed nation is growing in population from its native population.
Spot on right. The majority of morons mimic the demented corporate aging politicians who are completely out of touch with reality. Greed is good and screw everyone else which means screw the environment and God. Then they say we can fix it when They can't.
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I'm doing my part! No kids for me!
As are many other Americans. The birth rate is down to 1.7, and has been declining for years now. Millennial's only have a birth rate of 1. Depopulation will happen before the end of the century.
@@jazer426zzzz7 Same here. Having a family wasn't in the cards for me.
@@jazer426zzzz7 You forgot that Western governments are bringing in breeders from other countries at an unparalleled speed, under the guise of "refugees", "migrants", and "foreign workers", and "family of", and "birth tourism".
Unless you happen to live alone, I got that beat no problem.
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"Put the government in charge of the Sahara desert, and in a year there would be a shortage of sand" - Milton Friedman in the 1970s.
10 years ago financial capitalism nearly destroyed the US and global economy in an orgy of reckless, crooked deals. The _government_ pays for by working taxpayers, bailed them out and rescued the system. But still there's a goldfish who has forgotten 2009 but quotes 1970...
"Put the free market in charge of clean air, and in a week people would have to pay for air or otherwise they'd die."
- Someone who is not a complete simp for unregulated capitalism, but understands that both government and corporations are necessary *and* need to be restrained.
@@doubleextreme3143 but the clean air will cost less than current inflation much less other taxes.
Right on!!!
How many times on the past when Bill is bitching about Millennials and Gen Z, and complains that they're not reproducing fast enough?
i still remember as a child...all the bees out around neighborhoods just buzzing...those were the good ol days...now i have to go out of my way to find bees...if any...
It's pesticides I was told by government agency when I was delusional and wrote to president about glyphosate killing bees
Love Bill when he hits it out of the park like this video. I've been saying for 20 years the biggest ponzi scheme around are the economists and business analysts that insist we must keep growing our population as the solution to our long term financial obligations instead of just living within our means.
If he believed this so much, why is he living?
Economic models are fake news.
@@jimbob498 He had no choice coming to this world, but he made a choice not to have kids. That's enough contribution.
@@jimbob498 This is my favorite idiot statement. Please next talk about how we can fit the whole worlds population into TX.
Capitalism is the best. It only needs 1.5x more people every generation to cover the fact that it is a ponzi scheme.
In Cornwall England we have towns with 3 out of 5 houses unoccupied out of the holiday season while new housing estates are being built on farm land to combat the homeless crisis. What the hell!!??
Same here in Pembrokeshire. In fact, the Presbyterian Church of Wales is kicking an 85 year old woman out of the house she rented from them for nearly 30 years so they can sell it , no doubt to some city person looking for a holiday retreat. How very Christian of them.
You have no clue clue how about you guys do that too much lol I love ya ya know I got a a ton Crane and ya I know what I’m saying is right there and and I
@@enfys6493 that's organized religion for you.
Human greed and stupidity. Again.
in the states they advertise cars for $90,000.
We’re all riding on a rock, hurtling through space at 67,000 miles an hour towards almost certain oblivion. Enjoy it while you can, folks.
I'm not enjoying shit, this sucks.
"Almost certain" oblivion?
What drives me nuts is that corporations control the world and what they created is a throw away society. I still have a 13 inch RCA color TV that works, can't pick up anything abd I only use it for my Atari 2600. My mom had a RCA console TV that lasted 25 years before the picture tube went and since there is noone to fix it she had to get a modern TV that one started having issues within 5 years, and that is actually good compared to other TV's on the market. A new TV is less expensive than it is to fix an old one. That is a real problem. Apple/Samsung creates a new phone every year and you are lucky if it lasts 2 years before it fails. This concept of throw it away and get a shiny new one is the downfall of the world. I recently had to get a new/used ATV as my old one is from 2004 and only a certain dealership can get the parts and they are hard to find due to it being old and if it breaks down again those parts will not be available. The stuff they create today is unfixable junk and ends up in a landfill leaking hazardous chemicals into the groundwater. But having products that last a lifetime is not profitable.
planned obsolescence .. it's good for business not for the planet ..
Yes! I buy, sell and repair Macbook pros (Becca's Macs on FB 2000 members) and I still use my 2009 iMac--its not limited at all! It is a TANK! The Mac Pros up to 2012 can still replace hard drives, batteries, fans and ram etc.
The new Mac Pros NOTHING can be replaced, when they break they are throw away buy a new one
I can't sell 2014 pros anymore everyone says "they're too old" I reply with I have a 2010 15" pro I use everyday to run my business and a 2009 iMac for the home--what is it little Timmy can't do on a 2014? Well my business has gone under now where for the last 10 yrs I made enough in profit to live off and hired 1 employee--the throw away culture has ended my business!!
Yo, you're a champ. I have one of those tvs too, and I totally use it for my atari 2600. Great minds think alike :)
Absolutely!!! Same for washing machines, dish washers etc..
I would say it is our ravenous appetite for the ease and convenience the big corporations and their products offer. It is definitely a symbiotic downward spiral.
“We haven’t thought it through, but who cares? It seems it would be good for business.” Should be americas mission statement.
It *is* America's mission statement! And the mantra of the tech industry. "Let's keep kids addicted to social media, let's keep everyone thinking they need a new iPhone every 6 months, let's keep replacing human jobs with machines, let's keep piling up plastic & metal garbage infinitely.... Haven't thought any of this through, but good for business in the short-term." 👍
America isn't where the high rate of population increases are happening however.
If that was the case, US founders wouldn't hav made a system that's based on checks and balances,and not having an individual r individual branch of govt having absolute power etc!!
@@mnoble247 no but its where humanity perfected the art of unbridled greed!
@@slh950 And rampant overconsumption!
If we're truly concerned about the environment we should also consider the overconsumption of food that is running rampant in western civilization. The environmental impact of people eating more calories than their bodies need is massive. It's not only food production, but clothing too.
if we are truly concerned about the environment we should wipe out all of africa india and china.
I never noticed it until I had adult housemates, most people are basically overgrown children and incredibly wasteful.
Ruining large batches of food because they can't wait to finish cooking before getting drunk. Taking way too much then dumping out half a plate or more.
Not just food, they are suckers for shiny packages and disposable garbage products. I had to convince everyone I know that I don't believe in gift exchange, because I was tired of my trash being filled with useless overpriced shit.
Yes we need to ration fat wasteful human beings for the good of the environment and put them on a steady diet of bugs
You are right. But I would like to add the wastage of food would be more of a concern in that regard.
More importantly, in my opinion, the consumption of animal products, where animal agriculture is incredibly resource-inefficient.
As an organic gardener in the Ozarks, every year I have to use more water to get through the hot spells. Higher temperatures and steady southerly winds would kill most things off were it not for hoses and sprinklers.
Try Peter Zeihan’s “The End of the World is Just the Beginning”. It’s alarming for different reasons than one would think, refreshingly plain speaking, and well thought out. (He also discusses when he’s been wrong via YT, which is a nice change!). He does address climate change in the most interesting, and I think open, way I’ve seen so far.
The end really is near then. I can't believe "Christians" don't seem to care about climate change despite it being a sign of the end times. Only Jesus can save us and while that's always been true, it rings more true now than ever before.
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I can imagine that George Carlin would applaud Bill, but also roll his eyes because he put out the same message long ago. Thank you Bill, this is spot on, long-term thinking!
I think he'd do so as well, but the eye roll would be for a different reason in my eyes. That reason being Bill is spinning it in a "the planet and nature is fucked", which George would not agree with, given his clear monologues on the topic, with his most famous and repeated line being "The earth will be just fine, but the people... the people are fucked." And to that, I couldn't agree more with George on the topic. He's spot on. The earth is going to be perfectly fine. It's humanity that's literally voluntarily suiciding itself from existence and into extinction.
@@TheCriminalViolin I stand corrected. George was in fact taking the mickey out of the 'save the planet' people. Indeed, the planet will fine - and likely glad to be rid of us!
He goes where the money is...that's all....long-term thinking makes any turn that has a dollar sign...
What long term thinking?
Mam, USAs total fertility is below 2. Among white population, the fertility is at 1.6. Very low. USAs population growth is sustained by Asian Americans and Hispanic population. At this rate, I long term, USAs population will become older on average. World in general and USA in particular, needs many kids.
@@TheCriminalViolin "perfectly fine" in geological terms. Carlin was making a joke. Ecosystems and the billions of species on those will suffer just as us, for several generations. Don't pretend you didn't understood that
Bill speaks the truth! You go Bill!
When I was in grade school in the 50s we went for a school trip to the Hayden Planetarium. There was a large globe showing the worlds population throughout history in a timeline with lights. At first the globe was dark. Then little by little the lights began to light , then faster and faster until the present. Then the timeline was projected into the future until the globe was one large light. I may have been seven or eight but I saw the writing on the wall right then and there. I was a budding environmentalist from that moment on. None of what is happening has been any surprise to me. When politicians speak of unlimited eternal economic growth I have to just sit back and shake my head. All I can say is we get what we deserve. One reason I don't think men like Elon Musk are very bright.
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Let me ask you, do you want a welfare state or ANY kind of social programs? Well you cannot logically support Bill Maher's position on this.
Since decreasing birthrates means that there'll be less young people, and thusly a hell of a lot less tax payers to actually pay for the programs you people desire. You can say goodbye to just about any government program if birthrates continue to decline.
This is the problem with all the childless and birthrate collapse loving leftists. They're actively supporting the death of the possibility of a welfare state. Since these people are usually upper middle class, and thusly them having more birthrates means there'll be a more taxable workforce.
The only way to make a state function long-term without replacement level birthrates, is to either get rid of every spending program and go down the road of full laissez faire capitalist bullshit, or to go towards some dystopian hellhole where you'll never get to retire, and get shot when you can't work anymore.
Have you ever bought a digital item?
You're literally describing propaganda. It's funny how the same people that force the borders open to import cheap labor also pressure anyone educated not to reproduce.
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To be sure, the population is about to peak and start dropping soon globally, regardless of what politicians or business leaders want. That was the controversy that brings this up.
I been saying this for years they talk about population decline like it’s a bad thing. It’s what we need
No. Completely wrong, and all population science knows it… regular people don’t know what’s happening. We are going infertile. th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
The human race is Thelma and Louise at the end of the movie: going off the cliff with our foot on the gas knowing full well that there's no happy ending and just saying "F*ck it"
People care, in fact 81+ million people cared and believe in climate change and conservation and alternative energy and curbing waste and pollution and consumption. It's the dirty, corrupt politicians who are 100% willing to burn tomorrow to stay warm today!
Sustainability in consumerism has become a thing. The issue is it goes against current business models.
Good thought
But Market economy will collapse with sustainability.
Overconsolidation is the problem. Stop letting the oligarchy shift the blame onto you for their own misdeeds. They manufacture scarcity.
Maybe so, but if the growth of the population out paces the reduced use of resources by each individual, consumption continues to increase on a defined planet with limited resources. If I'm driving a fifty-year-old car, it may burn more fuel than a hybrid, but due to the demand of more consumers & advances in production capabilities, there are millions more hybrids & humans on the road than there ever was of my car fifty years ago. Is that real progress, or just denial to justify the continued spread of the cancer known as man?
They gotta own the libs by destroying the planet
@@erichancock6815 We are not a cancer, but on a natural expansion due to available resources. Inevitably, the expansion begins to contract when we outpace the resources. It happens constantly as a design of nature.
I cannot say enough how much I love Bill for bringing this up. It’s obvious to all of us on the ground but not to those in the ivory towers checking their stock reports
I’m sorry but I must disagree with that statement. It’s obvious that the problem lies with those on the “ground” because they are the ones who can’t stop reproducing while those in their “towers” are only exploiting that need… the people in the “towers” usually don’t have a lot of babies hence why they are living there…
Buisness man don't give a fuck about shortages. They are like an alcoholic person who comes to his senses when he has done too much damage.
Reminds me of the inscription on the Georgia Guidestones, to limit the population to 500,000,000 worldwide and leave room for nature.
But of course, those inscriptions made sense, so the whole structure was bombed by some lunatic and dismantled.
Never underestimate the power of ignorance and stupidity.
@@Factonise Many times, even this is not enough, and someone else has to "bring them to their senses" since they are no longer capable of it.
@@user-hf2dr7sh4y Yeah, Mother Nature has been trying to do this for decades, but the CCP suffers from the same disease as all dictators - they think they are above the law. They may be above man-made laws but have not yet realized that no one is above natural laws.
I would even argue that it IS about space. It's NICE having space. Space to roam, space to hike, open road to go for leisurely drives. Space for forests and wetlands. Wide open spaces are NICE, can we NOT rush to fill them all up?
Forests and wetlands that produce drinking water and keep the soil fertile. We have water in Florida because a tenth of the state is a swamp. And it is more like a fifteenth.
If you are talking about outer space forget it? we are no closer to colonizing any other planets then we ever have been. that's an Elon Musk pipe dream.
No. It’s about OUTER space… consciousness moving into the cosmos. If we don’t stop population collapse… we’ll never get off this rock… the only people that may survive currently are radical Islam and devout Christians. th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
I am in my 50s and have long been concerned that in my minute lifetime the World Population has more than doubled. I am not asking for a population correcting pandemic, but we need reproductive responsibility.
Does china still have that 1-2 kid law? Maybe the world will do that in the future
Or maybe make it so you have to make a certain amount of money to be able to have more than 2 kids
I always have thought that people having 3+ kids is selfish, even with money there is not time for individual attention plus the demanding resources for our planet...
No: don’t get caught in the new dogma.
@@jeffreydurm Let me ask you, do you want a welfare state or ANY kind of social programs? Well you cannot logically support Bill Maher's position on this.
Since decreasing birthrates means that there'll be less young people, and thusly a hell of a lot less tax payers to actually pay for the programs you people desire. You can say goodbye to just about any government program if birthrates continue to decline.
This is the problem with all the childless and birthrate collapse loving leftists. They're actively supporting the death of the possibility of a welfare state. Since these people are usually upper middle class, and thusly them having more birthrates means there'll be a more taxable workforce.
The only way to make a state function long-term without replacement level birthrates, is to either get rid of every spending program and go down the road of full laissez faire capitalist bullshit, or to go towards some dystopian hellhole where you'll never get to retire, and get shot when you can't work anymore.
@@Autconscipatheonive I appreciate your insight. To your point global population growth is not necessarily aligned with global birth rate.
falling population = rising quality of life for everyone
no it doesn't... Japan's population is collapsing and they're worse off now, there's to many old retired people and not enough young people to work and pay taxes to support the old people. Young people are having to work longer hours and retirement age is getting pushed back further cause such a small amount of young people is needing to support such a high amount of elderly people.
@@dean9620 you have completely missed the big picture. think of it like downsizing a company, people get slashed at first and it's hard, like what's happening with twitter, but its necessary for survival.
@@dean9620Japanese people have always worked very hard. Their population is still huge and house prices are crazy.
Except may those for employers who support both overpopulation and/or overimmigration, to thereby flood labor pools and get away with freezing real wages well below inflation rates. Most Democrats AND Republicans are certainly on board with that too; more people means more services that then need bi-partisan action, which invariably results in larger voter pools and more chances for re-elections.
@@dean9620 Bringing life into existence is unethical. Life is suffering.
The issue with population decline isn't the amount of people but the Disparity between the old and the young like in Japan and that is suffering because there are more elderly than young adults.
That problem is temporary. Economies adjust, and over time the nation will reach a new equilibrium as lower birth rates means less elderly when that generation ages.
That's a problem of fountain-of-youth obsessed people. Normal biological longevity is reproductive age. Any year past that should be seen as a blessing, not be a demand for governments to fulfil!
Yup, demographic curves are predicting more old people than young,Mèxico has being predicting this in its own country and not much is being done despite knowing
that's because our grandparents didn't have access to birth control and had 14 kids (like my grandparents). The children from these large families are now in their 50s, 60s and 70s. This will balance out when this generation is gone.
@@hayimemaishtee as I recall, back in the eighties the average woman in Mexico had about five kids. Now it is half that, and the country is much more prosperous. That is no coincidence. Same with China. Chairman Mao rewarded families who had many children. Many starved. When they enacted their one child policy they began to prosper. A simple calculation will show that if they had maintained the population growth rate of the time the introduced the one child policy, they would have added approximately the same number of people currently in the US to their current population. It should be noted that the US is the third most populated country in the world.
As someone that grew up in North Dakota, I love your ND joke. It sucks. Even at a billion, hardly anyone is going to want to live there 😂
Canada has it worse. 90% of our country is completely uninhabitable. You can't farm the north pole.
Theodore Roosevelt Nation Park is wonderful. Other than that though...
@@taekwondotime On the other hand, In the near future it could be the last place cool enough for aquaculture farming.
@@GeekonaBike Even if Canada warms up from global warming (which it is) there's still the problem of no sunlight as you go farther north. Imagine living in a place where the sun never comes up.
The farther you get from the equator, the less sunlight you get. Although people in Canada are used to it, I remember getting off a plane from Florida to Toronto in January and remembering how the sun went from being this bright yellow circle to a tiny little white dot lower down in the sky. The difference is enormous.
@@taekwondotime Yet somehow Canada manages to be the 5th largest producer of wheat in the world.
As a child of adoption I've never wanted children of my own and was happy to learn I am sterile. I have nothing against people who want children of their own, but when you're having upwards of 8 children you need to really stop and start adopting. It's selfish and if you want more kids so badly why can't you love a child who has never known it?
Why would it be selfish there’s nothing wrong with loving children and having alot
I was on birth control and had 5 (two sets of twins) celibacy and sterilization since -I never thought this could happen
@@brandonjade2146 why? Because that’s a lot of fucking mouths to feed.
@@pickplayer8347 people should be allowed to have as much kids as they want man
As a former foster child I feel very similar. I won't have any biological children, because there are already enough people on this world. I am however more than willing to foster children that are already here.
One of the simplest solutions (in my mind) is the one thing that no one seems to want to do: learn to live within our means. One of the major obstacles that I can see is that we live in a culture that worships its commodities populated with people who just can’t say no to the things that “society” tells hem that they “deserve”.
If we could change our culture and way of thinking, it would solve 90% of our problems before we ever got to govt policy.
Ok when Obama stops building homes on the water , Kerry stops flying private-then I will worry
@K Ham ....when they stop space tourism.
@@kham6006 Yeah, because these are major issues 🙄
@@ranndino When the literal outcry of climate change is based on "Seas rising" and "CO2 emissions", it's a very major issue. Why build a seafront home if the sea will supposedly swallow it up in a few years? Why not utilize zoom to hold climate conferences instead of multiple private flights by each delegate to sit in a room and complain about the very emissions they are attributing to? The hypocrisy in the actions far outweighs the words they use to fearmonger.
I remember my dad saying, that there was a discussion by L.A. city officials in 1940, that there was "Too many people in L.A.". The population then, was 1,504,277. It is now: 12,459,000. That's city...NOT county numbers.
Ew. That's too many plastic people.
L.A. city is not 12 million. NYC doesn't even have 12 million. L.A. city is a little over 4 million. L.A. County may be 12 million. The metro area I believe is over 15 million.
Source on the number please.
Yes and it is a shyte hole from hell as a result
Not city. Metropolitan statistical area. 2020 U.S. Census says MSA is 13.2 million. City is 3.973 million. It’s a lot of people. New York City has just over 20 million in the Metropolitan statistical area and 8.8 million in the actual city.
Less people on the planet wouldn't _just_ be great for the planet itself, it would also be great for the people still on it. Labor laws and worker's rights don't have much of a leg to stand on, when the "labor pool" of desperate working-age adults is so high that employees who strike/quit are easily replaceable.
One of the ugly truths I learned in economics 101 is that capitalism requires (indeed, it creates) desperate workers who are willing to work cheap.
I see a future America, balkenised into seas of obscene poverty dotted by fortified islands of obscene wealth 😢
Ever since I realized world population has doubled since Nixon, everything just makes so much more sense
its gone from 1billion to 8 billion in 100 years too
Once I found out that if you make 41k a year you are in the top 3% of the richest people on the planet. That's when I realized those wealthy they are always calling greedy and making everybody elses life suck and want to take it from them, is us.....3 billion live on less than 1000 dollars a year...
@@barrywalls7175 it was 1.86 billion in 1922 with some estimates as high as 2 billion. Still 4x in one century is crazy.
Yup, no matter what we do, much of the world keeps breeding.
And then we import their excess population to have more taxable youths to provide for our elderly. Just like we import their carbon emitted products so that we don't have to emit it here. Well, that's what you get with a population that's 50% frauds and 50% assholes.
@@xsuploader mother nature corrects problems if you let her. Infertility rates increase but mankind has found ways around that. Homosexuality increases but they two want children ,they can use surrogacy or if it's two women get spent donor.natural disasters diseases, and unfortunately suicide rates along with murder increase.
Nature is pretty effective at dealing with overpopulation - famine, war, and disease work really well.
People can reproduce all they want, when there's no water to be had for the love of money, you'll see pretty swift population decline.
Apologies, I'm shocked that people think governments or those in charge will make difficult choices, "do the right thing" or even know what the right thing is.
"It's all hopeless, just be kind to one another" - John Cleese
Other option is virus by design. It's created havoc so far.
Except after every war there's a population boom. And the countries with the highest birth rate are countries with famine.
@@LLandS18 They have have famine because of the rich nations
War isn't nature
@@PriorityDonk war is human
I'm a former liberal, then a republican, now more centrist. I think Bill is a breath of fresh air. He reminds me of a lot of my liberal friends who are open to conversation.
That's like trying to see a lions reflection in tree bark at the zoo. Leftist are blindfolded cult members with their fingers in there ears wishing to punch phantoms in the face because the TV told them to.
@Russ Ingram He's the least rich among "the rich". You should focus on the 1%, look at the Forbes Billionnaire list, that's a start.
Bill, you just made the case for immigration enforcement and border control. Thank you.
Yes. No conservatives or religious nuts should be allowed in. We're already over quota.
Why would more immigration lead to more worldwide population growth? If the world plays its cards right, immigration leads to less poverty in the developing world, which in turn decreases birth rates.
@@veganlion8662^^^
@@veganlion8662it also means people want to move in, be successful, consume more, etc. That’s not going to go away, but at least let’s not add any more people to the equation
The equation is planetary and migration reduces that.
Bill nailed it where he pointed out "Isn't running out of water a bigger problem than retirement funding?" All the arguments for "let's have more people!" are SHORT-TERM arguments: "If America has less people than China or India, they'll conquer us. If world population shrinks, a couple generations of retirees will be poor." Right. Correct. That's all probably true. But that's still WAY LESS of a problem than doubling or tripling our global resource extraction and emissions in the near future WAY before we're anywhere close being set up for renewables taking on that burden. It's not JUST population increase causing the massive resource pressures, either. It's ALSO a massive increase occurring right now in the percentage of humans shifting from 3rd world to 1st world conditions, which sounds great in the short-term, but in reality, that is currently compounding the living f*ck out of the resource extraction pressures on planet earth, LET ALONE what happens when we add more and more people by population growth.
Populations India and China don't give a F what Bill says. Overpopulation has literally NOTHING to do with the west, where we are literally declining in population...
This was one of Bill's worst takes of all time. And you are not smart for liking it.
We aren't running out of water. The planet is covered in it
Water doesn't run out - it's literally a cycle. The only thing you can run out of are sources of clean water (if you destroy them or decrease the amount of precipitation that ends up in reservoirs).
And finally, since the population of every western nation is simultaneously below replacement level right now, even after being floated by immigrants who still have a lot of kids, we can stop pushing our kids to be sterile already.
Global Extraction... Explain...? If we extract iron ore to make steel, does in magically disappear, after the steel is made... If we are running out of water, enlighten us on where its running too... ? Is it too disappearing? Society is certainly not running out of morons... and fools... God save us... So your solution, is say more Nazism and Communism, where ideologies as such kills millions... Or how about, doubling the annual abortion rates, too 100-120 million murdered souls. This the greatest of human genocides... More God damned selfish fear mongering... Lower the excess population, so there's more for you. Are you willing too give up your place at the dinner table? Instead of your insistence on someone else giving up theirs. You left wing environmentalist, think alike. The lot of you are brainwashed by the same, end of the world bullshit... The earth will go on... make no mistake... However the Meek will inherit it, not a ship of fools...
@@merc9nine Freshwaster, genius. We're nowhere close to a desalination process that is economically scaleable to a world of 12, 14, 16 billion people. Not to mention, that's one of about 20 global-scale problems by rapid population explosion.
About time population was brought up in the Climate change conversation. The loudest Climate alarmists don't seem to equate more people with more consumption of everything.
EXACTLY. too many people both cause the problem, and suffer the effects. Why isn't that obvious?
Not sure where you’ve been but population is almost the only thing they brought up for years. More recently there has been more sophisticated push back on that flawed Malthusian notion.
Yes because they have shout sight. All want to breed children to occupy their vacuous lives.
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So how do we reduce population?
Oh man, this is so needed. Why would anyone in their right mind want to trade the few magnificent wild spaces we have left for "suburbs" and trailer parks. Why would we want to turn into China?? The only people who want this are the wealthy who prefer a labour pool that is numerous and desperate to the point of compliance. Plus, the lessons of history are that when a population decline occurs, the middle class gets more prosperous. Granted, previous declines have been involuntary (plague, etc), but we could manage it at a level that avoids that kind of trauma.
Please tell this to Canadians...because we are literally doing this through our stupid immigration policies. What Bill Maher just said here would be considered racist in Canada. What is happening? Well finite resources like: homes, food, cars are seeing insane price hikes in Canada. Not to mention the carbon footprint of bringing someone from a third-world country to here would dramatically increase their carbon footprint. Our healthcare system is failing, our highway infrastructure stalling - the govt refuses to build more, but keeps bringing in a record number of people. The defense is..."well, we need someone to do these crappy jobs that locals will not do for garbage tier wages...let them immigrants do it", so we have insane wage stagnation. Result is: a crumbling infrastructure with insanely unaffordable life, do not come to Canada.
The wealthy want the poor to keep breeding. That way poor kids fight in the wars and work the dangerous jobs so the children of the wealthy don't have to.
My buddy in Texas worked for a company that built suburbs and his whole job was going out to sites where they were chopping down forests to pave it over. He made gooood money but he quit after six months because he got depressed.
What the hell are you talking about? Are you really that naive? China is a huge country, they have more wild spaces than human spaces. China is becoming the top super power in the world because partly because of their population. The big problem with the US is that our government doesn't give two craps about its people
Worse still, why would we want to turn into Bangladesh? A place with a higher population density than China?
"What are we an alien on a space ship?" Yes, yes we are.
Thank you Bill for stating this fact! I’ve been saying this for decades now and it’s only made me a pariah. Our system is entirely based on never ending growth which I is also the nature of cancer- it won’t end well
Complaining about our "predilection to f***" is funny coming from a man who was a frequent guest at the Playboy Mansion when Hugh Hefner was alive.
@@rimshot2270 He is in the comedy business. The problem lies in policy. All “western” nations have birth rates hovering at around 1.7 per couple I believe, it’s just that the governments are deep in debt therefore requiring population increases to service the debt which is why immigration from poor countries is pushed. In poor countries having lots of kids is what gives the elderly security in retirement
@@jamesbuscher701 If he wants to criticize governments, which is his right, he must accept the right of other people to criticize him. He thinks he is more than a comic, no matter what he says.
Well, if you think "overpopulation" is a real problem...
...then you'll be very happy to learn that our Malthusian "Elite" *have **_already done something_** about it!*
If you haven't caught on yet, you will...
@@rimshot2270 Maybe he made sure those young ladies practiced birth control. You're just jealous cause he got laid by beautiful women.
So true. I was born and raised in California and the population has doubled since I was a kid in 1970s. I wouldn’t say the overall quality of life here has actually improved over that 45 year span except for air pollution which has been greatly reduced. We still have too many people for the limited water supply and our aging infrastructure.
Get rid of the almonds-first step
thats because of how yall vote
No people had kids in small towns and they moved to the city's and imagination targeted city's. And so on and so on .
California's had too many people since the turn of the century - the 19th century!
@@mytrashguypa Nope.
Thank you, thank you, thank you finally someone states the obvious. We’ve added 100 million people to the US and now we don’t have enough water. Droughts have always happened periodically, but California didn’t have 40 million people that wanted to drink, bathe, do laundry or have irrigated crops to eat throughout history. Yes we can build desalination plants, but they use a tremendous amount of energy. People say “Well let’s just use solar panels”, but they have issues with creating huge amounts of toxic waste and taking huge amounts of land out of the ecosystem that we need to keep the natural cycles working. We can’t just engineer a complete environment and ecosystem without nature or we would already be living on Mars.
That's a straw-man. We could support many more, with sane infrastructure, which could only happen under different economics than our current vampiric capitalism (which isn't at all a "free market").
Uh, do know how long it took the US to add 100,000,000 people? It took 100 years literally. And the droughts that are happening are not because of an increase in population mostly, but mostly because of climate change due to global warming.
But because of climate change, huge parts of the west including California are about to become deserts. It will take about 10-20 years to happen, but it is going to happen.
@@rabbit251
And that's mostly because of oil and industry, hence capitalism.
According to the census bureau the population was 226 million in 1980 and 331 million in 2020. That’s more than 100 million in forty years. But we have a lot of undocumented people which makes the climb even higher. Also your correct that capitalism is a factor because it raises the quality of life for the masses and that is why people come here. Socialism creates hardship and does decrease population but that is not a smart solution to population growth
@@oscarbauer1322 How exactly does socialism create hardship? The US started socialism under FDR with works programs and social security and later added Medicare and Medicaid under Johnson. How have any of those programs created hardship?
Europe and Japan have adopted even broader versions of socialism to ensure that everyone is cared for with including national health insurance.
Perhaps you don't understand what socialism is?
"...Soylent Green?..." Totally right Bill - we might not be too far from that scenario...(younger viewers may need to google this one)
Interestingly, Soylent Green (1973) was set in the year 2022 !
And did you notice that the climate was hot, dry, dusty, and windy? The term global warming didn't exist then, but the film is eerily spot on about so many things, like drought, food shortages, homelessness, civil unrest, street crime, assisted suicide and corporate government 😮
FINALLY! A high profile person speaking about this harsh reality...
Refreshing isn’t it. Love Bill Maher he is brilliant and honest and fearless!!
So proud of Bill Maher he is brave bright and fearless. Love him more every day !!
Ok. Did he also explain how he wants to solve the problems of those who have the most children? They don't have retirement money, no health insurance. They have to rely on many children.
As long as we only have morons pointing out the problem but not having a solution, we're just a bunch of idiots acting smart.
Do you still think this was a great move from Maher or did he just fill a few minutes of talking time saying nothing? And the Duracell monkeys just keep on clapping 😂
@@h.g.buddne ...you make a good point. Perhaps the message needs to first get across, then the solutions? This is such a taboo subject in the first place.
You are shockingly naive
Have loved this guy since the 1990’s.
Just Saying!
Me too! He is almost 99.9% on point
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This was the hot topic when I was a kid, 50 years ago. It was a priority for Bush I, until it was explained to him and others that in order to make huge amounts of money, that we needed an ever growing population. Earth be damned.
Also helps that Malthus was a pseusocientfic moron and all his predictions turned out to be the opposite of reality.
Elites love him though.
I've been convinced for almost 60 years it's the one main problem we're not concerned about but should be. Nothing has changed in all that time.
I think. Bush and his friends have decided, they have enough now.
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The world population in 1960 was just over three billion. There were plenty of large cities for those who like living in them (and normal middle class people could still afford to live in cities such as San Francisco and New York), and I don't think anyone was looking around back then thinking to themselves "There are far too few humans on this planet."
The politically incorrect answer is: modern medicine does not allow sick people to die.
Or thinking to themselves "There are far too many humans on this planet."
@@germanevision modern medicine extends lives and that's not always a good thing.
@@brandocalrissian3294 We’ll be turning off your life support then!
In 1960 there were fewer than 100000 80+ year olds in the U.S. There are 2-3 Million alive today in the U.S. The fertility rate is 25% what it was in 1960. The population is growing older. Look at our last two geriatric presidents.
You can thank the Catholic Church for a lot of this. Denying birth control and abortion was a terrible idea.
really?
Religion just wants members... that's why they are against birth control and abortion. The catholic church is a big cult that keeps many chained into the vicious circle of compulsion repetition. Humanity is doomed. I have given up on humanity and I consider myself divorced from humanity.
Dumb take.
Bingo! Thank you Bill for being the voice of reason.
An elderly relative in the 90’s made a comment that I thought horrid at the time.
“Since the 60’s only the dim breed in great numbers and those who build/create keep dieing off with one kid at most.”
I’ve noticed since then he’s right.
The smart know how to entertain themselves with non-sexual pursuits while the economically challenged seek the cheapest, easiest to access entertainment and little thought to the train wrecks they drag the accidental children through.
Similar to other dying breeds. Men hunt the strongest animals and leave the weak.
If you haven't, check out the movie "Idiocrscy". The 1st 5 mins seem to have been written by your acquaintance.
@@tonysmith8163 beat me to that one. It's a movie that came out in 2005. The whole premise of the movie is showing what the world will look like in 500 years "if current trends continue."
Ha ha did you do that Biden gibberish on purpose smart people vs poor people? trust me there are smart economicly challenged people and absolutely there are dumb ass trust fund babies. Rich and poor as well as educated and illiterate all have an instinctual desire to procreate. Ild be more inclined to agree that ugly introverted people keep themselves occupied.
The solution to the above comment, the birth control pill, or the Nuva Ring
Nailed it. Way too many people.
US is 4% of global population, but consumes nearly a quarter of global energy
Not True !!!!
@@mickyboymccoy7632: It's closer to truth than fiction.
America consumes 25% more energy per capita, than all other nations. That number also reflects the massive amounts of energy consumed by the largest military the world has ever seen, the U.S. military, spread across the globe with over 800 admitted military bases. Which that in itself would be dangerous consumption, but coupled with the actual energy consumption of war, which the U.S. is engaged in everyday somewhere around the world, you can easily see how it all adds up.
And while America represents less than 5% of the world's population, it incarcerates 25% of the world's prisoners. That's another factual statistic that I have no doubt you'll object to, but is none the less true.
@@Vanderearden We also produce a lot of that energy and use it to feed and clothe people all over the world. What are we supposed to do? "Sacrifice" and live like Third World peasants? That won't do any good. Life is not a zero-sum game.
@@rimshot2270: I'm not even sure how to respond to your misguided ideas.
While America has been the global leader in pumping oil for 8 years, it is NOT the leader in oil production. Hence, the skyrocketing price of fuel, a lack of refinement production. That and good old fashioned price gouging, done under the cover of inflation. America hasn't built a refinery since 1979, and in that time has lost half a dozen facilities due to aging out and catastrophic damage. Oil is useless unless it's refined into fuel, and right now, America's remaining refineries are running at max capacity, creating an artificial shortage due to a staggering lack of refining capacity. By design.
And this idea that America feeds and clothes the poor around the world is a ludicrous myth. America can't even feed, cloth and house it's own.
America is sanctioning over 35 countries. Ask the poor folks of Somalia, Yemen, Uganda, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Syria, Libya, etc. how helpful America has been to them.
After 20 years and 6 trillion dollars spent in Afghanistan, helping those people, America immediately slapped sanctions on them when departing. America is now actively starving to death the very people they claimed to be helping for 20 years.
It's time to put to bed this idea of "American Exceptionalism". America is in a death spiral and none of these grandiose myths are gonna save it until American citizens wake up to the reality of America's failing imperialism.
@@Vanderearden Folks in the USA may use 25% more energy per person than say those in India etc. with our Washers and Dryers and such. But we don't use 25% of worlds global energy or contribute 25% of the earth pollution.
Now go home and get your shine-box!!
“You can’t grow water”
- Bill Maher
You can and we do by cleaning the water and making more wells!
Desalinations plants.
@@hyacinthlynch843 Do you have any idea how much it costs to desalinate water? Or how it's done?
Why would you need to? The planet is covered in it.
@@merc9nine
Exactly my point.
Didn't like this guy until seeing this video. Couldn't agree more this time!💯 This and the time he talked about Coffee Cups are his best works yet!
Remember the next time someone says "we dont have enough food to feed the world" that we dump wheat, corn and soybeans into the ocean to regulate market price. Farmers are told not to plant certain crops to help control prices. To think that we cant feed the world is absurd.
You are correct sir!
Yep
Indeed.
Capitalism baby!
To think that any of that is infinitely sustainable is far more absurd. Like food is the only issue here. 🙄
Be wary. It doesn't take much to turn "We need less of us" into "We need less of 'those people' "
The reverse is also true. Lots of people who are saying "we need more people" are implying "we need more people like me so we can defeat the people who are not like me"
Correct.
@@Odima16 Loser.
What about people saying that to be alive is an amazing gift? And the data that shows that with more people, we have more food and less poverty than ever before - and not from stealing lol. From productivity and innovation - created by... people :) wonderful people.
There is some merit maybe to some of this, until it gets practical, who is not allowed to have kids, or forced abortions etc. ugly real quick
@@cordeauxboi cornucopian b*llsh*t. As he pointed out. Limited potable water and resources for growing food. One child is good, two are enough, zero is great.
Nailed it
We’re in serious ecological and resource overshoot but no one wants to admit it less they’re labeled eco fascists
Yes, the rich say about needing more people as they need more labour who will be ready to work on less money. If one leaves hundreds will be ready for that position. More people also means more staff selling. They just need people for their own financial growth.
Everyone likes to trash talk Malthus but he was correct. His assertions are not a theory, they are basic irrefutable ecological principles. Based on simple observations and not laboratory experiments. Those who smugly dismiss Malthus are fools
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The best cause that I’ve seen Bill take up. Thank you Bill for talking about this. Too many think talking about reducing the population is taboo or even racist. We are doing incalculable damage to the wildlife population and breeding ourselves into huge future problems.
YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! The only downside of a decreasing population is the breakdown of infinite growth models for businesses. But lets face it, a shrinking economy would be worth it as long as the planet is still a place worth living. We love ya Bill!
The population goal for the planet is 500 million. It makes sense if we never leave the planet.
@@chaschristiansen That goal of 500,000,000 was inscribed on the Georgia Guidestones, which was bombed and dismantled about three weeks ago.
It's why I have no hope for the future of our species. The powers of ignorance, stupidity and greed are just too entrenched.
@@donmiller2908 Bombed? You sure about that?
@@donmiller2908 you thinks it's not the greedy who want population decline? It's our most elite that think they will be the survivors. Elites all have children and pass policy making children and life in general consistently more complicated. This won't end with a decline in world population just a restructuring of world dominance and a return to lots of war.
@@donmiller2908 ahh yes. 500 million white people you mean. Oh please.
The earth can sustain around 80 to 100 billion people before we would need to find a way to replace the resources we used up.
By then, we would have had more innovations in recycling and food science.
We'll be fine.
Actually, birth rates in most developed countries are actually falling. Developed countries (like America) are the biggest contributors to pollution & emissions. So it is our practices that is causing problems...so as long has we are gluttonous consumers there will continue to be a problem.
-"(like America) are the biggest contributors to pollution & emissions" I call that an accurately reckless statement.
Actually China produces far more pollution than the U.S.
The main reason for the birthrate decline is economic. If you have an economic environment where your average 25-year-old cannot afford to have 3 kids, then you are going to see birth rates go into decline as people wait longer to start families or don't have them at all. If you are paying back your student loans and barely make 40K a year, you aren't exactly positioned to have a large family
@@TheJadedJames I think the other reason, which Bill has discussed before, is that people aren't hooking up as much either. I think people are realizing that masturbation is sometimes better lol. Actually it's usually better to be honest.
@@SomethingSomethingg Masturbation is absolutely not better than actually having sex. But I am also overworked and barely making enough money to comfortably support myself, which especially since the pandemic has made dating less of a prospect because it requires the combination of free time and money
Nice to see a bit of sanity on the issue
I am so tried of hearing people go off on this population collapse thing. We need to start calling it ... sanity. I just can't see any evidence that this won't be a great thing for the average person... and a great humbling moment for the gov't and corporations which are too big.
This is why I never had kids and adopted one.
Thank you!
I like Bill. I usually don’t agree with most of his views, but I respect him and I’m 100% with him on this. By the way, I put my money where my mouth is, my wife and I chose never to have children. At least there are 1-3 less people here on earth 👍🏽
Thank you for your sacrifice, so I could have many children
@@Natemesis hey, it's your money to waste
@@verbalkint4258 I've found estimates on costs of children wildly exaggerated, and usually with built in assumption of college costs. I paid my way and they can pay theirs if they desire. I've also found the return on children to be very rewarding. But we all spend money in our own way.
@@Natemesis I think people should not be like sows. We are not meant to have litters.
Thanks. We Republicans are thankful you've chosen to eliminate yourselves from the gene pool.
I just want to say... THANK YOU !!!!!! so nice to see someone telling the hard truths
@Antony O'Callaghan Let me ask you, do you want a welfare state or ANY kind of social programs? Well you cannot logically support Bill Maher's position on this.
Since decreasing birthrates means that there'll be less young people, and thusly a hell of a lot less tax payers to actually pay for the programs you people desire. You can say goodbye to just about any government program if birthrates continue to decline.
This is the problem with all the childless and birthrate collapse loving leftists. They're actively supporting the death of the possibility of a welfare state. Since these people are usually upper middle class, and thusly them having more birthrates means there'll be a more taxable workforce.
The only way to make a state function long-term without replacement level birthrates, is to either get rid of every spending program and go down the road of full laissez faire capitalist bullshit, or to go towards some dystopian hellhole where you'll never get to retire, and get shot when you can't work anymore.
No solution, though. Don't have kids, please.
Unfortunately, overpopulation is not a problem and Bill is wrong in this case.
@@Autconscipatheonive first : " you people " ?
Second : what if your country actually started taxing the rich. Oh and don't tell me they do because the amount is just ridiculous. Here in France I give 60 % of my income in taxes because I earn a lot and have a lot of properties. Also hey !! Here's a great idea : let's start taxing mega churches, how about decreasing military budget, government budget etc... I mean the possibilities are endless. But hey let's automatically say it's impossible and that it wouldn't work instead of actually looking for solutions 😅
@@bertulfthewise9177 That's like saying that coal is clean energy.
When I see a couple with 3 or more kids it's like seeing someone still smoking cigarettes. They can know the dangers of both, but are addicted to their own desires.
I find such people irresponsible and inconsiderate
No. You’re not up to date on the science. We’re going to be *gone* in just a few generations unless we figure it out: th-cam.com/video/A6s8QlIGanA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yxMDs4QGKGPGa-pD
If you can provide a good life for 3 kids I see nothing wrong with it. It’s just rarer that it’s even possible now given how expensive kids are 😅
This has been disproved. People die everyday. A culture that doesn't replace itself disappears.
Amazingly we keep plowing under farm and ranch land to put in the next housing development. Is it any wonder that we are demanding more of ever decreasing fertile land.
Same in Canada
I bet you 5$ you've never set foot on a farm.
@radio hitman like the previous millions of immigrants? Some of them that you are a direct, if unwelcome, descendant of, genius?
@@daddywarbuxx5194 I'll bet you ain't got 5 bucks
Fertile land isn't the only issue. All resources are finite. More people = quicker depletion. Less chances of that which is renewable to be renewed before total depletion. It's very simple. We need less people. Quit praising people having children
Wish Bill had a bigger forum in America. He is almost always on point.
His point this week was that there's not enough water LOL very scientific Bill.
He's a hypocrite. Nice to spew this garbage while living in a Beverly Hills mansion and having a vacation home on Catalina Island.
He does not even get basic facts right. Elon Musk is correct, just check the facts
@@far2ez539 He’s saying that water is depleting
@@milhouse14 Groundwater does deplete.
The earths not going anywhere, we are!!! -George Carlin
@victoria man
Don’t interfere with nature -George Carlin
Unfortunately that’s what we want to do.
“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”George Carlin
Earth as a planet will.survive but not an eco system, we've lost and are losing losing millions of species, now hundreds of lakes and rivers, and of course the ice caps.
@@DeeDee-io6dy When you get the three of the worlds biggest polluters, China, Russia and India to comply then we can talk about going green ....
@@nicknitro4420 Here's your logic, our street is on fire but I'm not going to put water on my house unless my neighbors put water on theirs. Oh and I helped cause the fire too.
Kind of amazed to hear Bill essentially speak against a major tenant of capitalism. I fully support his argument, one cannot have never ending exponential growth without these horrific consequences.
I wasn’t amazed that he said it, but was amazed that anyone said it.
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This was all disproved in the eighties. Musk is 100% right.
You can love your kids and still agree with Bill here.
Wrong. Bills point here is evil
The ones who "love" their kids and agree with Bill will inevitably want to limit their own children's future reproduction capacity, consciously or unconsciously. Oh, right, I almost forget that this is exactly the emerging form of child abuse coming from the left under the guise of gender identities.
You can but that would be hypocritical
@@HebrewHammer1337 Sex feels too good, and condoms completely kill the sensation. So people have to rationalize when they have an "unexpected" pregnancy.
@@HebrewHammer1337 nope.
Are you sure you understand the word "hypocritical".
Hypocritical would be agreeing and then CHOOSING to have 10 children. Loving the children that you already have is not counter to understanding and respecting the problem.
You may as well say that people who understand the problem of an aging population therefore cannot love their grandparents because it's hypocritical.
"Overpopulation is the problem, and the problem to all our solutions." - Terence McKenna
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What an absolute baboon.
You want to lower the population? Start with yourself.
God made the earth and said be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth.
He made it by His word and sustains it by his word.
Just because you don't believe that does not make you right.
How about we talk about the agendas that are happening?
Seeding the sky?
No evidence of climate change?
The sensationalizing of weather.
Fake gas shortage?
Energy shortage? lol
In 536ad there was a fog over the whole world. A volcano erupted and sent the world into darkness.
Who's carbon footprint did that?
Predictions from the 1960's, 70's 80's 90's that never came true.
No these lost souls possessed by unclean spirits that run governments are the problem of the world.
In 20/20 they started full boar their agenda to destabilize the world to bring about the solutions they want in the world, with lies of pandemic, and now a war that they blame is disrupting the supply chain and gas and food.
If you believe these people are doing a good job at their job, you are the pandemic.
But it doesn't matter, they are doing their job of the WEF. They openly say they are making a transition in the world.
They can't change a hair on their head but tout they can control the weather and the world. lol
And i have news for you, God said man would do this in the end, to openly try to remove God from His creation once and for all.
And... he laughs. And comes back to set up His kingdom, and to stop those who are destroying the earth.
And isn't it funny that's exactly what they are doing.
If you feel lead to curb the population so much in your heart, Then be a martyr for the cause.
McKenna was certainly a nut job!!!
That dude was on too many drugs.
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Thanks for talking about this Bill!
Bill does not care. It's a farce
@@1972achin Go away.
He's manipulating the truth. The world is giving birth to more old people not young. The fertility rate is below replacement level in most countries however the number of old people (60+) staying alive has exploded.
@@warrenbuffet5152 So what? Why are you so worries about? I don't get your stance.
I'm 29 and am celebrating my 30th birthday with a vasectomy!! 🥳🥳🥳
So True!
🌍I’ve been asked to donate my dollars to many charities that are promoting…
“Feed the Children”
Starting in the 80’s My response to the charity organizations…”I’ll donate to their charities when they spend the same amount of dollars on Birth Control education & support”
(Usually stops them in their tracks)🌍
breed the children - africa.
Thank You, at 67 i’ve watched our country double in population in just my lifetime. What has changed homelessness, poverty, failing infrastructure, criminal activity & violence, affordable healthcare, climate, haves vs have nots, etc..
It's not population that causes that. Homelessness if because we fucked our economy and refuse to change zoning away from single family homes. Poverty is because we fucked our economy by outsourcing our manufacturing. Crime is because we fucked our society and destroyed the nuclear family at the same time as you guessed it - we fucked the economy. And yet the elites always push the same thing: "let's fuck the economy harder, as long as you poors can stop breeding too!"
It’s called the Reagan Revolution.
Hey. You have more billionaires….
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As long as we see a never ending growing GDP as our metric as success we'll keep celebrating unsustainable growth
The interesting thing is... moving from a perpetual growth economy to a static one is not easy. Banking, for one, as currently practiced, absolutely depends on continuous growth. But, like you say, growth is not sustainable. Fun fact: New York's Manhattan was supposedly purchased from Native Americans for $24 (never mind the facts). But with very modest compound interest, that $24 would grow into the current actual value of the island.
It's only unsustainable under our current vampiric capitalism (which isn't at all a "free market") and under our atrocious infrastructure.
I've been preaching about this problem for over a decade. Nobody listened. Everyone censored my comments and banned them. Amazing that someone else finally caught on. Thanks Bill Maher.
Any reason to post this twice?
Probably because my comments keep getting deleted. I usually have to post 2-3x before one of them actually stays up.@@einundsiebenziger5488
People should wait till they have money till they have kids. Studies are showing that people with little to no money are having the more kids than anybody else, and that literally puts a strain on our resources and government programs.
Yeah, well now we no longer have a choice as to when we have children thanks to the right winged republican Christian anti-choicers.
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Then let's allow for family planning, like birth control and abortions, for families that aren't ready. One political party is reducing the choices available to those couples, or women, not ready for children.
I feel that. Even in my family this is happening. And they're asking me when I'll get married. I'm like I barely have enough for my self
Amen. If parents were tied financially to every child they had and to properly support them, then overpopulation would stop quickly.
As usual Mr. Maher has nailed the topic exactly as it should be told.
Yes, OVERPOPULATION is the problem number one
And here is the fatal flaw in capitalism. When your aim is infinite growth you require infinite resources. A growing population is a great way of almost guaranteeing constant growth. But the other effects are swept under the carpet to focus on the money, even when they include environmental collapse and the apocalypse. I have been combating the nihilism created by this understanding since I was 12. Having to listen to the blissfully ignorant call me a commie, sheep, and the ones who saw the truth claiming that you can't change the system because it's too strong. We will reap what we have sown, and everyone will wonder why it played out that way.
We have just launched a telescope that can see light from the earliest stars and galaxies nearly 14 billion years ago. And yet we can't see the consequences of our actions a couple of decades down the line.
Great post. Agree 100%
@@johng.4959 cheers, you take care of yourself.
Capitalism isn't a problem I don't think. If people love money, that is a problem of the heart to be fixed by the knowledge of the word of God. It's not the fault of a free market.
People who are religious and follow sports are conditioned for obedience. And don’t question shit like this. When Elon and jack Ma founder of Ali Baba agree on this, it’s a core tenet of capitalism-you gotta have a population clambering over each other trying to rise and kept in the dark so they don’t know how they’re getting fucked.
@@trustinginthewordoftruth4036 Lololol! Free market?? Nothing free about it. It's rigged socialism for the rich, harsh austerity for everyone else.
What do these people think, that water just falls from the sky?
It’s amazing how we have the technology to do wonderful things that would really help people with basic things like food and water. Desalination plants in Israel for example . Funny how here in America, with California living beside a massive amount of water has droughts and water shortages and forest fires. Too bad the government couldn’t put a little money into something that would actually make lives better and could create jobs and possibly even electricity without the use of fossil fuels.
I disagree with your last point but overall yes the government here in the US doesn't give two craps about its own people. They just care about their own personal interests at the expense of everyone else. That's not democracy
profits before people
The hallmark and saving grace of capitalism is supposed to be efficiency in distribution of goods to all. Criticize greed and the instant response is that this is the best way to see everyone get access to new technologies. Sometimes that happens, but the examples you listed reveal how hollow it is as a philosophical truism. Corporate/government power are not solving our long-term sustainability problems, and they aren't even efficiently distributing the goods and technologies we have. We have the sort of governments in America where you can have poor people suffering thirst 10 miles from a hub of industrialists and scientists and technocrats 10 miles from an *ocean* and yet everyone acts like the only thing to do is debate between the letters R and D. We could use some R&D instead.
@@phantomcosmonaut9127 It actually is democracy. Democracy is all about driving popularity to line the pockets of people. That is why the United States was established as a Constitutional Republic. Unfortunately, the Civilwar ended that and and the U.S. evolved into a Democracy. With the advent of increasing social welfare programs in the early-mid 1900's, The U.S. has taken a strong turn towards Socialism. In the recent few decades it has moved into Autocratic Socialism, still disguising itself as "Democracy" with some remnants of its Constitutional past. The autocracy isn't a single person or "party", its a manipulation of every agency of the government being control by a single political platform and ideology. Often referenced as "Deep State", a long time ago powerful people realized that holding elected office didn't matter if you created enough agency's that actually controlled the policies and procedures.
@@JamesThomas-dn6hz How did the civil war bring an end to America as a Constitutional Republic?
The small county I live in in Nova Scotia has lost 3000 people since 2000. We have way more deaths than births....The only thing that keeps many places running is migrant workers. We also have a wildlife problem. Lack of hunting and trapping has deer, bear, and raccoon populations exploding. 80% of local car body repairs is collisions with deer. Deer walk around here like dogs they are so numerous. Beavers, minks, and muskrats are swarming out of the swamps destroying property and livestock. We had to have 4 beavers trapped by the DNR cause the fruit trees were attacked. Bald eagles are so plenty they are killing some of the more native species off. We have so many lobster and halibut that they can't be sold and millions of pounds are on ice for markets. The whole world isn't California.
The whole world isn't the rich English-speaking West either. I understand, in your town population decrease is causing problems but these aren't global problems. Let's say, you won't be able to fish anymore - because the edible fish will be extinct. Let's say, the migrants wouldn't be migrant workers but just desperate migrants fleeing unbearably hot countries with no food, and there would be 20 times more of them. Let's say, we will have a pandemic every 5 years. Those are global problems. Yours can be solved (which shouldn't sound patronizing from me, just hopeful :-)
@@cioccolateriaveneziana Nicely answered.
I love it when he talks about real problems. More of this please, Bill.
What solution did he offer?
@@Nepthu Fewer people! As in, allow people a choice to not breed!! In America, women don't have the choice for reproduction; in other countries, women don't have the choice for abstinence... Stop thinking alike an American and realize women's reproductive health is a global issue!!!
I guess you weren’t listening. We’re a little late for any workable solution but try this idea - Stop having children.
It’s too late anyway, the human race will be gone in 100 years. I’m just glad I won’t be around to see it. I do feel bad for my grandkids though.
Overpopulation is not a problem. Bill is wrong here.
@@Nepthu Stopping couples from procreating.
"Stop fucking rudding! Just for a day! Lets figure out this food, air deal."
-Bill Hicks
Some of your best work yet, sir. Thank you. I have changed my mind about Japan
Marr is a fine academic who clearly digs deep in his demographic and economic analysis. Reviving Malthusian theory was nice too.
I live in Japan. The country doesn't need more people!!! It needs WAY fewer people!
@@MeMe-lx2jw if you live in Japan (I grew up there so you're living there means nothing), why don't you understand the whole society understands it's facing everlasting stagnation and hardship due to 高齢化社会 - basically in the newspapers everyday for at least the last decade..
Doesn't need to grow its population, but certainly will suffer for a century (or indefinitely) as it shrinks...