Tony: did you know? Steve: I didn't know *it was him* In winter soldier when Steve and Natasha are in the AI room with Arnim Zola - he talks about hydras new method of creating a chaotic world so people give up their freedoms willingly for security Steve says that Howard stark wouldn't let that happen Arnim Zola says 'after all..accident will happen' and shows a newspaper headline that Howard stark was killed in a car crash .so Steve knows then that hydra assassinated Tony's parents and that it wasn't really an accident
Tom Holland was 19 when he first debut as Spider-Man. The age criticism by fans was understandable,, but I think it's more of the fact that he has a baby face lol. The guy is 26 now and still looks like a kid lol.
captain america, bucky, and black panther are all termed "super soldiers" steve and bucky's are based off of the black panthers serum. black panther's is a natural version where steve and bucky's are based off of his.
@@djohnson6585 Also he asked for a favor from Nat at the end of AoU. She said it's a string he probably won't want to pull on. He knew everything about the experiments cause he got the full files from her.
@@craiglortie8483 I've assumed that the super soldier serum was based off the black panther plant..but is it ever officially stated as canon that that is the case in the films? I'm not sure
In Winter Soldier, Arnim Zola implied that Hydra/Shield assassinated Howard Stark. He said, "Accidents will happen" and at the same time a picture of Howard Stark came up on the screen. It was a blink and you'll miss it moment but that's why Steve said that he didn't know it was Bucky but he knew they were murdered by Hydra.
@testfire3000 I also think that Steve suspected that it was Bucky. He just didn't know for certain. Also this secret and Steve admission of it, in my mind, is a huge factor in the way two scenes played out. One small scene in Age of Ultron and the other in a future film that I don't want to go into because of spoilers, but if you've seen all of the MCU films then I think you know what I'm talking about.
Steve actually KNEW that Bucky killed the Starks! Remember post credit scene in Winter Soldier? Black Widow hands Steve a Russian dossier of Bucky, which had to have had that info because Bucky did it while under mind control of the Russians!!!😊
@@bobhobbs4332 We don't know what those files contained. The way Cap words it - "I didn't know it was HIM" refers to the scene with Zola. He was never explicitly told it was Bucky and didn't have concrete proof, but he put two and two together. So...he DID know, but not for sure. He was like 90% sure. He couldn't exactly tell Tony that though. "Oh yeah, by the way, my best friend from WW2 got turned into a brainwashed HYDRA assassin and killed your parents. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure it was him. Please don't kill him though."
@@Prowl76 It had no bearing on those scenes. It's black and white, can or cannot. I can't explain more without spoiling but what you are talking about is there being shades of gray to it and there isn't.
Bucky was experimented on by Hydra and turned into a super soldier. He has longevity and all the superhuman powers of a super soldier like Captain America. His metal arm is just a fancy prosthetic to replace the one lost in his fall from the train.
Captain America has the best one because his made him adapt to all forms of combat. Unlike others, John was only just stronger and did learn martial arts and other skills but captain American still pretty much keep up due being adapt to all forms of combat
@@ChocolateFishBrains it’s honestly not easy to miss if you’re paying attention. When we see WinterSoldier in Cap2 BEFORE it’s revealed to be Bucky, it’s very clear that he’s been enhanced. He’s definitely juiced up. Then it’s revealed to be Bucky. Automatically, in order for him to have survived that long and not have aged, he HAS to be enhanced - that’s #1….#2 Cap literally talks about how they experimented on him. So, from that point forward everyone who watched that movie should know that Bucky is enhanced. There’s literally no excuse to NOT get that lol. I mean…if I saw Wanda using her powers in this movie and said “oh wow, she has powers?! That’s crazy! How did she get powers like that?” Would you say that’s easy to miss too?
@@jayfrancelf It is easy to miss because many people who watch this film miss it. It just is that way, whether you think it's obvious or not. Get over yourself. Sometimes folks miss details, and sometimes that's common (and this instance especially is common in reaction videos). Chill out, enjoy the video.
Probably one of my favorite lines. "The living are not done with you yet." Like, you don't get to just take the easy ticket out of this mess. You're gonna pay for it.
Right, but the difference is Black panthers suit is pure vibranium, while caps shield is an alloy which has vibranium, not sure if in the MCU but in the comics at least
Probably where their youthfulness makes them giddy, and as if they're watching on their own without an audience. I think they'd have a lot more subs if it wasn't for that.
People like this and comment 😂 people need to have more awareness when reacting to a movie for the first time and marvel movies… if you talk too much you will miss ALOT 😅
@@RSawR Cap’s shield that was made by Howard Stark in the MCU is simply made out of Vibranium just like Black Panther’s suit. In the comics however, it was actually American metallurgist Dr. Myron MacLain who was tasked by the US government to create a near indestructible substance as a use for tanks during World War II that created the shield out of a Vibranium/Steel alloy mix plus a third unknown substance that mixed everything together when he fell asleep, and because he fell asleep he never found out what the third component was nor was able to replicate the shield again, and ended up calling it Proto-Adamantium (which incidentally, pure Adamantium is also what Wolverine’s claws and entire skeleton are made of as well). Adamantium is even harder than Vibranium by the way, so if his shield was made just like how it was in the comics, Thanos would’ve never been able to break it with that other weapon of his…
I feel like the airport scene showcases how strong Spider-Man is better than his own movies. Like you mentioned he has almost no real combat experience but he goes toe to toe with Falcon and the Winter Soldier by himself and wins. Even Cap doesn't want to take a direct hit from Bucky's arm and Spidey just catches it like a tennis ball.
Ross showed a lot of footage, but he overlooked Thor’s fight with Malekith in London, Hulk vs Hulkbuster in Johannesburg, and the Avengers vs Ultron and his sentries in Seoul. Steve and Tony swapped ideologies. There was a time when Steve trusted the government, but the times have changed in more ways than one. After what happened with S.H.I.E.L.D. in the present, he knows better than to trust the powers in charge. As for Tony, he always did what he wanted and refused to listen when people tried to dissuade from going overboard. He’s late but he’s finally starting to take accountability and wants to able to continue as Iron Man. Vision delivered a good argument without being hypocritical. He literally knows his own strength. To ordinary people, he’s basically god-level like Thor. For Sam and Rhodey, they didn’t have much of a choice. Even if they did, they were still gonna side with their respective best friends - and not just because of their friendships with them. Rhodey, for instance, is still an active member of the American military whereas Sam has seen the things that Steve saw during the HYDRA uprising. The language T’Chaka spoke is Xhosa. It’s widely spoken in South Africa which is where his actor John Kani is from. Zemo’s actor Daniel Brühl grew up speaking German through his father. He also learned Spanish and Catalan from his mother. Daniel reprised his role as Zemo for the German dub. Sebastian Stan is good at speaking Romanian because he grew up in Constanța, and unless I’m mistaken he did his own motorbike stunt. The elite death squad included some of the actors’ stunt doubles at the time. In a deleted scene when Clint and Nat were fighting: Nat: Don’t you think Laura would be disappointed? Clint: Who, in me or you? In another deleted scene, Nat watches the fight in horror after recovering from Wanda’s attack. While evading War Machine, Cap loses his shield. Bucky grabs it and throws it to War Machine. It bounces off of him and Falcon throws it back to Cap. Cap: Nice save. Bucky: I gotta get me one of those. What’s most interesting about Zemo is that he messed with the Avengers without laying a finger with them. CinemaWins goes into further detail as to how and why his plan worked. In the Latin Spanish dub, when Tony grabs Bucky in the silo, the dialogue gets changed a bit but holds the same meaning: Tony: Do you at least remember my parents? Bucky: I carry them in my mind, too! I also think that Nat and Sam knew about it as well. Nat was with Steve when Zola showed them the article. She also dug up some info on Bucky which might have included some info about that night. And of course, Sam would help Steve look for him. “Tony Stank” is still my favorite Stan Lee cameo in terms of comedy. Also, you know it’s a cool scene when you put three legends in the same room.
How could y’all not realize Bucky was enhanced not just his arm? Remember when he kicked that man in Winter Soldier so hard he went flying through the air into the aircraft making it explode?
I notice a lot of casual viewers don't really know who does and doesn't have powers or enhancements for example I've seen a ridicules amount of people think Spidey's powers come from the suit and not the spider or that he has super strength
@@Andy-Bodhi the irony of calling my lighthearted joke about time passing dramatic and then immediately comparing it to a "lived" one being terminal is craaaaaaazy but go of lol
Cap knew about Tony's parents from the last film when the computerized version of Zola showed them Howard's photo and mentioned that "accidents will happen"
yes at that point Cap knew the Stark's deaths weren't accidental but murder, However he didn't know which of their many assassins had carried out the hit.
@@neospock5034 The file that Romanoff gave Rogers at the end of Winter Soldier. It's very likely it had information on Bucky's victims as a HYDRA member.
The comic book telling of Civil War was equally gripping with many memorable moments. Feds knocking on doors at midnight as the time to sign expires. Then there was Howard The Duck at the registration office being asked what his ability was. He says I dunno...I'm a talking duck.
The MCU could never capture how intense and game changing Civil War was. Especially since there's no DareDevil who was integral and Peter outing himself to the world to get supers to sign over to Tony's side
Nah both are overrated. The comic is way too edgy for it's own good, almost every character is an asshole and makes stupid decisions. Is like it was written by a 14 year old emo. The movie is slightly better but jumps the gun in calling it civil war, such a dumb sparring session at the airport plus the basically one on one cap Vs Tony isn't big enough for that name.
Yes, T'Challa wears the vibranium Black Panther suit primarily for protection. But his strength/speed/agility doesn't come from gear. He's physically equal to super-soldiers like Captain America & Bucky without the suit.
Keep in mind, you're not supposed to know about black panther alongside the avengers here before he makes his entrance on that roof. It takes away the huge shock we all felt watching this when it dropped. Especially the people who avoided the trailer back then. Ah it was soo SWEEET. Both Spiderman and Black Panther's introductions were SICK!!!!!
I love that the Russo brothers were in charge for Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame...There's one line in this movie (Civil War) where Hawkeye and Black Panther introduce each other "Hello, I'm Clint."..."I don't care!" That line gets revised in Endgame perfectly, showing how the Avengers actually grew together when it was necessary. I fanboy over these 4 movies, but they truly set a bar that will be difficult to meet again. Great reaction!
This movie is one of the best movies ever. Cap and Tony have their reasons for which side they chose. They are both valid reasons that are completely understandable based on their perspectives. I love how Black Widow lets Cap get away in the end. I also love Black Panthers introduction. When I saw this I didn’t even know the character existed. That is hands down one of the best character intros ever. Thank you for sharing your reactions!
A line that has always stood out to me from another movie (3:10 to Yuma) “Even bad men love their mammas.” That was the moment that broke Tony, the instant he saw Bucky kill his mother, nothing else mattered against the black fury. Sadly, Steve’s defense of Bucky painted him with the same murderous brush.
Steve's defense of Bucky didn't paint him "with the same murderous brush," but Tony thinks it does. He doesn't have enough information about what Bucky's been through for the past 70-some odd years. If Steve had said that Bucky was his brother, who knows if that might have caused Tony to pause. Tony already knows that Barnes was framed for King T'Chaka's death. Steve chose to go lone wolf (with Sam) to search for Bucky instead of telling the rest of the team. Nat would've been a big help, but he excluded her, too. Hindsight is ever 20/20.
@@PhilBagelsno one is “rising above” in the immediate aftermath of watching their parents get murdered and seeing the murderer standing right in front of you
@@ForeverBrooklynNYC Speak for yourself. Tony's parents had been dead for what? 20+ years? There's nothing "immediate" here. In all the previous movies, Tony has been shown to be a very rational and non-sentimental person.
I just happen to live in Chadwick’s hometown of Anderson, South Carolina. this man has done so much for the kids & local communities here. Wakanda Forever, My King 🤴🏿 🙅🏼♂️ and Team Cap ALL DAY 🫡🇺🇸🗽
The big that got me hyped up was when Spider-Man was coming home to MCU. He was stuck with Sony for the longest time, but some how and some way Marvel Studios and Sony reached an Agreement and got Spider-man back home in the MCU. That was the "HELL YEAH" moment for me. :) Plus: Spider-man aka Peter Parker was a kid. A high school kid learning his powers and they had Tom Holland portray Peter Parker and Spider man the best I've seen. :) Great reaction guys.
As a true fan of the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man….as hard as it is to admit….Tom Holland is the best Spidy ever!!! He’s the Spider-Man I read in comics as a kid! He looks the part as well as act the part! And surprisingly HE IS THE BEST ACTOR OF THE BUNCH!!! (Which he proves in “no way home”! The emoting he exudes when Aunt May dies is far beyond any performance of the others!)
@@bobhobbs4332 I like what you say but everything in (brackets) is super spoilery for this phase in the MCU. Personally I liked all the three actors. Each put their own personal spin on Spidey.
I love this movie, Black panther/Spider-man introduction, Cap being badass, the winter soldier, "thinks for thanking of me" - Ant-Man. Cap and Widows friendship, and the whole avengers being on opposite sides. Love it all :D
Bucky has had a super-soldier serum too. He was experimented on by Hydra. Even when Cap rescues him in the first film they had Bucky separated for experiments. They do explain it in The Winter Soldier but its easy to miss. Thats why he can run super fast, jump and deal with damage hits. Add to that a Vibranium Arm and you've got Bucky. He's a Bad-Ass!
@@maxim196 T'challa wasn't in the apartment building. He was camped outside it, waiting for TWS to be flushed out. Where is this "magnetic pull" reaction? I want to see it.
The buildup of these 22 movies to End Game was truly a once in a lifetime experience. I find myself chasing how it felt to be in the theater when specific things happened in movies (especially ones you havnt seen yet). And that chase leads me to watching cam footage of clips in theater and things like y’all’s channel. I’m following these releases as a build up for the end game payoff. Keep on doing everything y’all are great.
Damn it sounded like Thor came in at the end of the video 😂. One important detail ya gotta remember too that Secretary Ross said was an "American based group of super individuals" or something like that... American based, waging giant wars in foreign countries. After the smoke settles people forget about you saving them and politics kick right back in so that would put all KINDS of pressure on the IS government to wrangle in the Avengers. That's why the UN got involved. Just a little detail but it's important too. Good stuff y'all 👍🏻
Fun fact: the guy with the sample that one that falcon thing kills with Redwing is the actor that played Thanos in the first avengers movie. Also bucky is a supersoldier he got the serum vision actor is literally the guy that voiced Jarvis. Also dudes name is Baron zemo. He is captain America most dangerous enemy in the comics.
The mix of both your reaction to Vision talking to Wanda at 17:45 is priceless haha. The female perspective: "aww" The male perspective: "That was like a really good way of saying, you can't leave" haha so awesome
The Comic book artform (and by extension the movies) when done well can be a great vehicle for discussion. In that way you can see its sci-fi overlap in the way it can explore themes and subject matter that is more difficult for other genres. Superman is an illegal alien trying to blend end. The X-men started as one long metaphor for the civil rights movement. Joker is an excellent view of whether individuals or society is responsible for crime, and the role of mental health and how we treat it. Winter Solider (the movie) is an excellent narrative of the surveillance/security state and "Big Brother". It allows an audience to explore issues that might split the general population without actually getting supporters of either side offended.
he was never a joke lmao you surge no clue what you’re talking about lmao. iron man is literlsly the one who started this whole franchise and story. get informed abt what you’re talking abtBEFORE you speak cause you only look dumb asf
And now you guys are finished with what I feel is the best superhero trilogy (and one of the best trilogies ever) with Captain America. Excited to continue to watch you guys as you move forward towards Endgame.
@@angelvilla3996 Nope. Guardians 2 is an okay to bad movie. All Captain America movies are great. Captain America 1 is much much better than Guardians 2.
@@carlpeterson8182 honestly it’s down to opinion. I adored gotg 2, it was so good. But I found Captain America 1 incredibly boring. And a lot of people think the same
@@carlpeterson8182 I disagree I personally like gotg 2 better than captain America 1, plus gotg trilogy had a much more satisfying ending than cap trilogy
@@arrowtotheknee2617 sure it is all opinion. It is fine if you like Guardians or Thor or even the Spider-Man or Iron man the best. I think most View the captain America trilogy the best but it is all opinion. No real right or wrong
Okay, Captain America, Bucky, and the Black Panther have all taken different forms of the Super Soldier Serum. That is why they are all so strong. In the case of the Black Panther, the serum is a plant without any side effects.
Next up is (in order): Doctor Strange, Guardians of The Galaxy Vol.2, Spider-Man:Homecoming, Thor: Ragnarok, Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War, Ant-Man and The Wasp, Captain Marvel, Avengers: End Game, and then finally Spider-Man: Far From Home.
@@milesmorales1789 Yes, it is. That it literally the exact release order which is the order you have to use or else the mid and post-credit scenes will be out of order. Chronological timeline order does work.
I really loved that you guys included every single LITTLE detail in your reaction. From reveals, dialogue, and acting. Showing what made REALLY made this movie . I really felt like i was watching this movie for the first time again. And I watch reaction videos daily.
Love that you guys loved this one. Black Panther, Spider-Man Homecoming, and Black Widow all are set directly after this, following the effects of the accords + Thor Ragnarok has a great explanation for Thors whereabouts at this time. This was probably peak Marvel for me, they produced back to back hits from here on. Can’t wait to see you guys react to that soon!
Both Tony and Steve had valid points of there stances. Tony wanted someone to hold the leash because in his hubris he went overboard created Ultron and it destroyed Sokovia, yes we can easily say Wanda was to blame for the vision but it wad Tony who made the conscious choice to plug the sceptre into an otherwise faulty program he never even asked input of the rest of the team he manipulated Bruce simply as a means to his end. And what does he do later he tries it again with Jarvis assuming with no cause the outcome would be different. Its a miracle Vision didn’t become another killing machine. Steve also has a point too. After Winter Soldier with SHIELD secretly being Hydra Steve no longer trusts institutions to tell him what to do if a person like Pearce can come off as a good guy with evil motives whose to say one person in this panel won’t do the same. Few things about the movie Tony’s ‘olive branch’ was a lie. RDJ himself said Tony had no intention of following through with anything he promised Steve. He was just saying whatever he could in order to convince Steve to sign. This is confirmed in a delete scene that shows that Everett had already agreed to release Bucky into T’Challa’s custody, which Tony would know. As for Steve knowing about Bucky and Tony’s parents. According to the Russo brothers, Steve’s initial answer to Tony that he genuinely was unaware of Bucky’s role in the whole thing and it was the truth. The most he knew was Hydra was behind it and that was only from what Zola said in Winter Soldier. It also wasn’t a conscious decision to keep it from Tony, he just didn’t think about it. Steve knew Hydra might be involved based on Zola's word, which was before he found out Bucky was the Winter Soldier, but that was all Steve knew for sure. Steve didn't know if Zola was just screwing with him or not until the bunker he was being honest when he said he didn't know it was Bucky he never revisited it, he never thought about it again until he saw that video. Now I am not Anti-Team Tony or Anti-Team Cap. The main reason for this is the Accords they don’t offer oversight, they offer control. The Avengers cannot make a move without asking the UN, who aren’t known for speedy decisions. How many lives do think would have been saved in previous MCU films if the Avengers had stopped to ask for permission? The Accords are a deeply flawed and unconstitutional piece of legislation that should never see the light of day and the start of a dictatorship I mean it denies people lawyers for one so that is unconstitutional as it gets. I’m anti-Accords especially when they are coming from a thoroughly corrupt man like Ross. People like to pretend what Ross did in ‘Incredible Hulk’ doesn’t count. Movie also is the MCU introduction of T’challa AKA Black Panther. I really loved how he serves as a counterpoint to Tony in this movie. Like Tony he is pissed because he believes Bucky killed his dad and he will let nothing and no one get in his way for revenge. When the stuff in the bunker pops off and T’challa is confronts Zemo he has the chance to avenge his father but seeing the damage his path to revenge caused seeing how its effected the Avengers T’challa stands down and listens to reason. It was in this moment that T’challa wasn’t an impulsive prince but a wise king.
Agreed, they both have valid points and I think neither side were the right option. I think what was needed was a middle ground, because the Accords were too extreme but they also should have some form of oversight. I do wish Cap told Tony about what he knew of his parents though, as a friend I would.
@@XxXDestroyer They _are_ their own oversight -- they don't need politics to make them puppets on strings. They should retire and let government fight Thanos (and nice friend you would be to hand over your friend who was your only buddy through the 'lean years' of your life)
@@MoMoMyPup10 Right and that's the part I understand Tony's position on, that kind of power not being its sole oversight. And I never said anything about handing over a friend, Cap only knew of Hydras involvement in their death not that they used Bucky for it. So yes I'd want my friend to tell me that truth rather then believing some lie. And he knows that was wrong, that's why Steve apologized for it.
I would agree except for one thing. If they had had the accords in place in the first Avengers movie, and had to get permission and follow orders, Manhattan would have been nuked. Realistically, all they would have had to do was threaten to leak that to the Press, and Ross would have backed right down. That incident alone should make the accords a non starter.
Honestly love your guys reactions. Loving your mcu journey and can’t wait till you guys are caught up. You guys are in for a great fun, sad, amazing experience with this universe. ❤️❤️❤️
Been so hyped for younguys to get to this been following your entire Mcu journey and its great seeing your opinions and whose side you take. Awesome reaction as always guys!
16:15 fun fact that scene was mostly practical where they're running really fast. About the only thing that was CGI was them taking out the mechanisms That helped with it
The Russo Brothers really did the MCU well. They brought the tension, the action, the drama, and the humor. All bundled into one amazing package. I wish the Phase 4 MCU was even half as good as Phase 3 MCU.
What no one i talk to semms to think about is, while that is 39:22 Tony's mom and dad, it's also Bucky and Steve's friend. Bucky is just as broken up as Tony.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 Yes, and many not understand the visions powers of changing his density. At one moment he can be passed through and the other he is as hard as a diamond. That is his main power. So SW used his powers against him.
@@carlpeterson8182 To be fair they didn’t gave any exposition or any information to the viewers that he can change his density so only the comic book readers knows that.
I do enjoy watching people take the MCU journey for the first time. Especially without much comic knowledge. Its a pure experience. You're able to let things unfold naturally before your eyes. Now Civil Wars central conflict is ideological, a debate over freedom vs. security, Cap believing more in the freedom of heroes and Tony believing in accountability, Both are reasonable positions to take & that's what makes it such a great movie. It makes you the viewer choose within your own personal ideology & This shows that these movies within the MCU can be meaningful, both personally and politically. It's not your simple black & white, good guy vs bad guy story. Even Ta'Challa realized it at the end. With that said, keep doing what you're doing, you two 👏
Do you remember Winter Soldier movie when Zola shows Steve how hydra was operating arround the world and how some "accidents happpened" with important people??. He knows since then what happened with Tony's parents. Thats why Steve cant lift the Mjolnir in Age of Ultron
So..I'm new here, and I ended up binge watching almost all of y'alls reactions for the past...3-4 days. Idk what it is, but out of all the reaction couples out there, you two I just vibe with the most. I guess y'all really are........the perfect mix..LOL. Anyway, y'all have a good one and keep up the great content✌ P.S> I'm assuming y'all are watching in the order of when the movies came out..so the next would be Doctor Strange. Between just the Spider-Man and Black Panther movies, Spider-Man would be coming first before the Black Panther movie.
Every piece of This movie is so Sick. Cap is my favorite Marvel character. Regardless, the introductions to The New characters are awesome, needed. Spidey, Black panther , etc
It's awhile before you watch the black panther movie. Next is Dr strange. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming Thor: Ragnarok Black Panther
I like that you liked what Sharon Carter was saying about "plant yourself like a tree and tell the world "no, you move" ". People usually misunderstand what she was saying and think she's telling the world to do what she wants. That's not it. She's saying that sometimes to do the right thing means going against everyone and everything. In this case Capt needs to go against the government and some of his friends to do what's right, even if that means he has to go rogue and become a criminal in the eyes of society. And that takes a lot of strength and courage.
This movie put more respect on T'Challa's name than the actual Black Panther movie(s) did. Even that fight with him and Bucky -- without T'Challa using his suit -- showed how skilled of a fighter he is. ALL of the comic book fans freaked out when they saw "Queens" on the screen. At the time when they filmed this, Tom Holland was 18 years old; a teenager playing a teenager. It's wild, right? How did Cap know about Bucky killing Tony's parents? It was from the 2nd Captain America movie; he had pieced it together, from what Arnim Zola had said.
Cap knew ever since him and Natasha found out In The Winter Soldier when Zola revealed all of Buckys assassinations thru the years and also revealed that HYDRA was SHIELD
I like how sanctimonious the US Gov is with the Avengers. They are the ones who tried to nuke New York City and Hydra was working, in hiding, inside the Government for years without getting caught. Also, Ultron was more of a Tony mistake rather than an Avengers thing. I can also see where the citizens would want to be assured of some kind of accountability for superheroes actions.
Tony is a Cohead representative of the avengers l. There is no separating the two because the world knows them as a unit and a probate corporation for which Tony is the person who 100% funds. Whatever any one of them does on their own falls down on the entire team. And I’m Tony’s case, he’s caused or been the cause of a lot more destruction than anyone else on the team.
Ultron is a result of Wanda mind fucking the avengers, too. Tony had the idea for ultron, but it was just an idea of how they could protect earth, only she caused Tony to see all of their deaths and the warning of Thanos. And of course he reacted as expected to try and prevent it. Bruce also helps to make Ultron. yet he and Wanda skate by on any blame from Captain America or anyone else, whatsoever, instead it all gets put on Tony and he accepts all of the blame for it. When really Wanda was working with Claw, and later Ultron, and she mind raped all of the avengers to ensure they relived or experienced terrible things, like Black Widow’s painful sterilisation, or sending the Hulk on a murderous rampage in Johannesburg. And in Tony’s case he saw them all die, but nobody ever mentions that part or Wanda vital role in his decision. And as Tony said in the movie, it was only a prototype model he made, Ultron built himself from that prototype which shouldn’t ever have been possible to begin with, but likely was because of the mind stone being in Loki’s staff.
They are hypocrite for sure , and with some rather nefarious agenda . But that's usually the dangerous thing with evil , they can use some actual truth and twist it . The Avengers still did screw up and were arrogant in the beginning of the movie . There is no real reason why they could not have followed Crossbone and his men outside the city and then fight them , or at least somewhere safer . They literally start a fight in the crowd
@@laileleneirose7966 I dunno it's not that easy to entirely pin Ultron on her . At most she gave a push , and does not even know what Tony saw . Those visions play on fear , ideas and issues they already had . That's why Thor even followed that vision , because he already subconsciously had those suspicions and guesses about stuff going on over at Asgard . I think that Tony would build Ultron no matter what at some point . The assault on New York , and him seeing first hand the "mothership" when sending off the nuke , already traumatized him and ingrained that idea of creating a shield for Earth . It was a matter of time , it was just likely the worst timing there
Marvel is fun. Glad you guys are enjoying it. General Ross…same general going after Hulk in the Hulk movies. He doesn’t like enhanced people no matter what side they are on.
There isn't quite a good or bad version of the serum. The german scientist in the 1st Cap film explained it. The serum amplifies a person's characteristics. So good people become great people, bad people become worse people. Since the other Winter Soldiers were Hydra's main hit squad, they were already evil and murderous, so they became mindless killing machines with no regard to life. But Steve was already a good man, so he became a honorable fighter that defended against evil people. Same with Bucky until he gets brainwashed with the coded words that turns him into a killing machine.
25:40 Well Spider-Man does start off in high school. So they actually had it his age he's supposed to look like right in this one. Although I wish they'd stop redoing the high school bit every time they do Spider-Man
Don’t know if anyone highlighted it. The reason cap knew about Tony‘s parents was he saw in winter soldier when the Zola AI was showing/everything Shield/Hydra was responsible for while he was asleep in the ice was the death of Howard Stark and his wife. The file never specifically shows the winter soldier did it, but Hydra initiated it all and made it look like an accident.
This movie almost didn't have Spiderman in it, the deal with Fox was signed very close to the movie's release. And if I remember correctly Steve found out about about Stark's parents from the Computerized Doctor Zola in Captain America the Winter Soldier, it was part of the conversation but not really focused upon in the scene. That's why Steve says he knew, but didn't know it was The Winter Soldier that killed them.
Caps fights are just wow 😂how hard is he hitting people lol & I feel bad for Bucky he was mind controlled for years pretty much so much grief & the arguments were valid in this with the whole Accords
Steve knew about the starks murdered because remember Natasha gave a file of the winter soldier program to Steve at the end of the winter soldier movie
This is in my top 5 or 6. It is hard. Avengers, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War, Guardians 1 (I still like it the best of the Guardians although 3 was great), Antman, Iron man 1, Guardians 3, Spiderman No Way Home, and Dr Strange are all terrific and probably my top ten right now (pretty much in order until the last few which could go almost any order). All these movies are really good to great to near perfect. I am team Cap all the way. Tony is too emotional. He fought CA and WS even when he knew WS was forced to kill his parents. That must suck but he has to control himself enough not to fight. Same thing with the Sokovia Accords. He just signs them because he is feeling guilty. It was not his fault really but he feels it is because the meeting the mother and her grief put him over the edge.
If Ross showed up trying to tell me how to superhero I'd be like, "Who put you in charge? Who looked at your resume and thought, 'Yes, he should work with powered people again.' Because if they are going to decide where we go and who to save, they obviously can't make good decisions."
@@ricardoortiz4870 Yeah, he was responsible for shooting up a town in Brazil that resulted in a bottling factory being destroyed. Then shot up a university campus in Virginia in broad daylight, causing millions in damage to property and military equipment and endangering the lives of the students and staff. Then had his "super soldier" run wild and destroy half of Harlem, New York. All while getting many people killed along the way. As well as getting his own daughter, and himself, nearly killed multiple times. If he showed up trying to order me around, I'd be like "You're not qualified. Go back to playing golf."
@@ricardoortiz4870 Not entirely. Ross approved and encouraged Blonsky to take the incomplete serum to begin with. The same serum that created the Hulk. He used a serum he didn't understand on a man he thought he could control. Then released him into the public.
I looking forward you guys react for more MCU movies. I wanna see the reaction for Infinity War and End-Game. Especially for Wanda Maximoff, i hope you guys see her solo series and movie (Doctor Strange 2). You can see how powerfull she is after becomes the Scarlet Witch. She is one of the most powerfull character in Marvel Universe.
I won tickets to the premiere of this movie and loved it. I love the chemistry between bucky and Sam and Giant man ( ant-man) I was not expecting that at all. I believe originally they weren't sure yet if they could get a deal done with Sony to use Spider-Man so that's why they added Black Panther and then when the deal was done the stuff with Black Panther was so good they just kept them both in it.
Alotta people miss this point they talk abt it briefly in the 2nd cap movie but bucky is also a super soldier just like cap he also given a robotic arm to replace to the one he lost. When he got captured in the 1st movie was being experimented on if you remember and was given a different variant of the serum.
Regarding the Superhero Problem, it's true that superheroes spawn the creation of the supervillain, but then you're kinda stuck. Removing the superhero isn't going to remove the supervillain. Putting Batman in jail isn't going to make the Joker go into retirement, it'll just make it that much easier for him to take over Gotham.
Yes but you forget the initial rise of Heroes is because of the Villains. There's no hero without the villain being established first, the hero is the response to bad behavior and criminal acts. But I do agree with you, you remove the hero that does nothing but make villains more prominent and undeterred. It's kind of like the gun control argument in real life. If the government forces gun laws all it does is restrict responsible gun owners but it does nothing to stop criminals from getting guns so now citizens don't have guns but the criminals and the government do. But we all know criminals don't go robbing the government they rob the citizens. That kind of society wouldn't make sense either unless society believes only the government and criminals should be able to defend themselves while the average citizen is just left as prey. But hey we live in a complicated society.
I don't think it's the least little bit true that superheroes spawn the creation of supervillains. Cops don't spawn the creation of criminals. You can't blame one person's evil on another person.
Top 5 mcu film for me and i don’t think it’ll ever move from that list…. easily rewatchable and no other marvel film has the audience debating back and forth team cap or team iron man… the writers really did a great job with this masterpiece of a film 👏
The 'planet yourself like a tree and tell the world no, YOU move' speech given at the funeral is a speech Cap gives in the comics. Pretty iconic and very captain America
The MCU starts to hit its zenith from here on out. It's all bangers now one after another. Each movie baton relays to the next, each building to a crescendo with Avengers 3 and 4 which, without giving anything away, spoiler: they stick the landing. This is dope rewatching them all in a row again wit y'all. It's like reliving the first time all over again through you twos eyes. So cool. And What In The Actual F*ck was that thunder clap in your reaction room just now? Who you renting a room to? Thor! I swear, that picked up so loud in my headphones, I'd double-check your house to make sure the God of Thunder ain't chillin in your kitchen right now. Cause it sounds like he just dropped in on y'all unannounced. I'll let you go. You got guests to entertain from Asgard. You want to be good hosts or Valkyrie and them will give you a bad review on the BiFrost Yelp. Just playing. That's Thor letting you know your worthy. 👍😊
The three Cap movies are my favorite Marvel stuff. I think each movie makes the previous one better. It adds layers and depth to the story every movie, and you guys nailed it too, Civil War had so many characters but still managed to be a Captain America movie. That's why I believe they're the best.
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Tony: did you know?
Steve: I didn't know *it was him*
In winter soldier when Steve and Natasha are in the AI room with Arnim Zola - he talks about hydras new method of creating a chaotic world so people give up their freedoms willingly for security
Steve says that Howard stark wouldn't let that happen
Arnim Zola says 'after all..accident will happen' and shows a newspaper headline that Howard stark was killed in a car crash .so Steve knows then that hydra assassinated Tony's parents and that it wasn't really an accident
Tom Holland was 19 when he first debut as Spider-Man. The age criticism by fans was understandable,, but I think it's more of the fact that he has a baby face lol. The guy is 26 now and still looks like a kid lol.
captain america, bucky, and black panther are all termed "super soldiers" steve and bucky's are based off of the black panthers serum. black panther's is a natural version where steve and bucky's are based off of his.
@@djohnson6585 Also he asked for a favor from Nat at the end of AoU. She said it's a string he probably won't want to pull on. He knew everything about the experiments cause he got the full files from her.
@@craiglortie8483 I've assumed that the super soldier serum was based off the black panther plant..but is it ever officially stated as canon that that is the case in the films? I'm not sure
its so interesting watching people go thru this cinematic anthology and not know what's coming next. loving the reactions
Yeah this is some good shit. Haven’t felt this way in a minute 😭
Facts
Seriously I binge this stuff 😅😅🤣
Yea it is, but this particular channel interrupting after every sentence is too irritating to sit thru idk how yall do it
@@mroctober3583 it's the main reason I watch them. They're funny.
In Winter Soldier, Arnim Zola implied that Hydra/Shield assassinated Howard Stark. He said, "Accidents will happen" and at the same time a picture of Howard Stark came up on the screen. It was a blink and you'll miss it moment but that's why Steve said that he didn't know it was Bucky but he knew they were murdered by Hydra.
Exactly! Most people don't get that connection and think Steve was lying to Tony or that Steve specifically knew Bucky was the assassin.
@testfire3000 I also think that Steve suspected that it was Bucky. He just didn't know for certain. Also this secret and Steve admission of it, in my mind, is a huge factor in the way two scenes played out. One small scene in Age of Ultron and the other in a future film that I don't want to go into because of spoilers, but if you've seen all of the MCU films then I think you know what I'm talking about.
Steve actually KNEW that Bucky killed the Starks! Remember post credit scene in Winter Soldier? Black Widow hands Steve a Russian dossier of Bucky, which had to have had that info because Bucky did it while under mind control of the Russians!!!😊
@@bobhobbs4332 We don't know what those files contained. The way Cap words it - "I didn't know it was HIM" refers to the scene with Zola. He was never explicitly told it was Bucky and didn't have concrete proof, but he put two and two together. So...he DID know, but not for sure. He was like 90% sure. He couldn't exactly tell Tony that though. "Oh yeah, by the way, my best friend from WW2 got turned into a brainwashed HYDRA assassin and killed your parents. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure it was him. Please don't kill him though."
@@Prowl76 It had no bearing on those scenes. It's black and white, can or cannot. I can't explain more without spoiling but what you are talking about is there being shades of gray to it and there isn't.
Bucky was experimented on by Hydra and turned into a super soldier. He has longevity and all the superhuman powers of a super soldier like Captain America. His metal arm is just a fancy prosthetic to replace the one lost in his fall from the train.
Captain America has the best one because his made him adapt to all forms of combat.
Unlike others, John was only just stronger and did learn martial arts and other skills but captain American still pretty much keep up due being adapt to all forms of combat
They should know this already because they explained it in WinterSoldier
@jayfrancelf It's easy to miss, and equally easy to forget along the way. I know that I did on my first view of these films.
@@ChocolateFishBrains it’s honestly not easy to miss if you’re paying attention. When we see WinterSoldier in Cap2 BEFORE it’s revealed to be Bucky, it’s very clear that he’s been enhanced. He’s definitely juiced up. Then it’s revealed to be Bucky. Automatically, in order for him to have survived that long and not have aged, he HAS to be enhanced - that’s #1….#2 Cap literally talks about how they experimented on him. So, from that point forward everyone who watched that movie should know that Bucky is enhanced. There’s literally no excuse to NOT get that lol. I mean…if I saw Wanda using her powers in this movie and said “oh wow, she has powers?! That’s crazy! How did she get powers like that?” Would you say that’s easy to miss too?
@@jayfrancelf It is easy to miss because many people who watch this film miss it. It just is that way, whether you think it's obvious or not. Get over yourself. Sometimes folks miss details, and sometimes that's common (and this instance especially is common in reaction videos).
Chill out, enjoy the video.
Probably one of my favorite lines. "The living are not done with you yet." Like, you don't get to just take the easy ticket out of this mess. You're gonna pay for it.
I think you missed it while you guys were talking. Cap’s shield is made of Vibranium the same stuff that Black Panthers suit is made of
Right, but the difference is Black panthers suit is pure vibranium, while caps shield is an alloy which has vibranium, not sure if in the MCU but in the comics at least
Capa shield was shown in cap america the first avengers. And what js was made of was mentioned.
Probably where their youthfulness makes them giddy, and as if they're watching on their own without an audience. I think they'd have a lot more subs if it wasn't for that.
People like this and comment 😂 people need to have more awareness when reacting to a movie for the first time and marvel movies… if you talk too much you will miss ALOT 😅
@@RSawR
Cap’s shield that was made by Howard Stark in the MCU is simply made out of Vibranium just like Black Panther’s suit.
In the comics however, it was actually American metallurgist Dr. Myron MacLain who was tasked by the US government to create a near indestructible substance as a use for tanks during World War II that created the shield out of a Vibranium/Steel alloy mix plus a third unknown substance that mixed everything together when he fell asleep, and because he fell asleep he never found out what the third component was nor was able to replicate the shield again, and ended up calling it Proto-Adamantium (which incidentally, pure Adamantium is also what Wolverine’s claws and entire skeleton are made of as well). Adamantium is even harder than Vibranium by the way, so if his shield was made just like how it was in the comics, Thanos would’ve never been able to break it with that other weapon of his…
I feel like the airport scene showcases how strong Spider-Man is better than his own movies.
Like you mentioned he has almost no real combat experience but he goes toe to toe with Falcon and the Winter Soldier by himself and wins. Even Cap doesn't want to take a direct hit from Bucky's arm and Spidey just catches it like a tennis ball.
Yes, this is why Spiderman is the GOAT
He stops a train on a full speed by just pulling it with his body in SM2.....
TBF Bucky probably didn’t punch as hard as he could have, but still, damn impressive.
@@JaggerG yeah that’s a fair point
Bucky can throw really hard punches. Spiderman can throw cars.
Bucky is enhanced just like Cap. The arm is just bonus.
Ross showed a lot of footage, but he overlooked Thor’s fight with Malekith in London, Hulk vs Hulkbuster in Johannesburg, and the Avengers vs Ultron and his sentries in Seoul.
Steve and Tony swapped ideologies. There was a time when Steve trusted the government, but the times have changed in more ways than one. After what happened with S.H.I.E.L.D. in the present, he knows better than to trust the powers in charge.
As for Tony, he always did what he wanted and refused to listen when people tried to dissuade from going overboard. He’s late but he’s finally starting to take accountability and wants to able to continue as Iron Man.
Vision delivered a good argument without being hypocritical. He literally knows his own strength. To ordinary people, he’s basically god-level like Thor.
For Sam and Rhodey, they didn’t have much of a choice. Even if they did, they were still gonna side with their respective best friends - and not just because of their friendships with them. Rhodey, for instance, is still an active member of the American military whereas Sam has seen the things that Steve saw during the HYDRA uprising.
The language T’Chaka spoke is Xhosa. It’s widely spoken in South Africa which is where his actor John Kani is from.
Zemo’s actor Daniel Brühl grew up speaking German through his father. He also learned Spanish and Catalan from his mother. Daniel reprised his role as Zemo for the German dub.
Sebastian Stan is good at speaking Romanian because he grew up in Constanța, and unless I’m mistaken he did his own motorbike stunt.
The elite death squad included some of the actors’ stunt doubles at the time.
In a deleted scene when Clint and Nat were fighting:
Nat: Don’t you think Laura would be disappointed?
Clint: Who, in me or you?
In another deleted scene, Nat watches the fight in horror after recovering from Wanda’s attack. While evading War Machine, Cap loses his shield. Bucky grabs it and throws it to War Machine. It bounces off of him and Falcon throws it back to Cap.
Cap: Nice save.
Bucky: I gotta get me one of those.
What’s most interesting about Zemo is that he messed with the Avengers without laying a finger with them. CinemaWins goes into further detail as to how and why his plan worked.
In the Latin Spanish dub, when Tony grabs Bucky in the silo, the dialogue gets changed a bit but holds the same meaning:
Tony: Do you at least remember my parents?
Bucky: I carry them in my mind, too!
I also think that Nat and Sam knew about it as well. Nat was with Steve when Zola showed them the article. She also dug up some info on Bucky which might have included some info about that night. And of course, Sam would help Steve look for him.
“Tony Stank” is still my favorite Stan Lee cameo in terms of comedy. Also, you know it’s a cool scene when you put three legends in the same room.
I really appreciate the in-depth analysis of the characters and this film! Thank you! Great post!
those probably didn't have much casualties, also Johannesburg and Seoul occur in the same movie as the Sokovia event
Salutes for the info 🫡
coming from ross, the one who wanted to use hulk to create more. he can't be trusted
Great tid bits thanks
How could y’all not realize Bucky was enhanced not just his arm? Remember when he kicked that man in Winter Soldier so hard he went flying through the air into the aircraft making it explode?
I notice a lot of casual viewers don't really know who does and doesn't have powers or enhancements for example I've seen a ridicules amount of people think Spidey's powers come from the suit and not the spider or that he has super strength
Because they are definitely NOT very good reactors! Maybe after a few more years of watching movies they might actually start to learn 🤔
To be fair In winter soldier they never really have a line saying Bucky got the serum you just have to assume if you miss a detail
Don’t shit a brick it’s gonna be okay.
@@mikelarsen5836they’re good rectors lmao stop crying you whiny minge
"He's my friend."
"So was I."
So raw, makes me tear up after 7 years
jesus I didn't realize it had already been seven years damn
@@redjaredits It's been 5 yrs even for Endgame LOL
@@Tushar_995 I saw that yesterday as like a snapchat memory from 5 years ago and I almost threw up lol
@@redjareditsjesus, that's dramatic...imagine when you find out a lived one is terminal or something else that actually MATTERS
@@Andy-Bodhi the irony of calling my lighthearted joke about time passing dramatic and then immediately comparing it to a "lived" one being terminal is craaaaaaazy but go of lol
Cap knew about Tony's parents from the last film when the computerized version of Zola showed them Howard's photo and mentioned that "accidents will happen"
yes at that point Cap knew the Stark's deaths weren't accidental but murder, However he didn't know which of their many assassins had carried out the hit.
@@neospock5034 The file that Romanoff gave Rogers at the end of Winter Soldier. It's very likely it had information on Bucky's victims as a HYDRA member.
The comic book telling of Civil War was equally gripping with many memorable moments.
Feds knocking on doors at midnight as the time to sign expires. Then there was Howard The Duck at the registration office being asked what his ability was. He says I dunno...I'm a talking duck.
The MCU could never capture how intense and game changing Civil War was. Especially since there's no DareDevil who was integral and Peter outing himself to the world to get supers to sign over to Tony's side
Nah both are overrated. The comic is way too edgy for it's own good, almost every character is an asshole and makes stupid decisions. Is like it was written by a 14 year old emo.
The movie is slightly better but jumps the gun in calling it civil war, such a dumb sparring session at the airport plus the basically one on one cap Vs Tony isn't big enough for that name.
Yes, T'Challa wears the vibranium Black Panther suit primarily for protection. But his strength/speed/agility doesn't come from gear. He's physically equal to super-soldiers like Captain America & Bucky without the suit.
That part when Bucky grabs the motorcycle is one of my favorite parts of ANY MCU movie!
And it's a legit stunt. No CGI, except to hide the wires that were used.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keep in mind, you're not supposed to know about black panther alongside the avengers here before he makes his entrance on that roof.
It takes away the huge shock we all felt watching this when it dropped. Especially the people who avoided the trailer back then. Ah it was soo SWEEET.
Both Spiderman and Black Panther's introductions were SICK!!!!!
"I've done the whole mind control thing. Not a fan."
-Hawkeye, in Avengers: Age of Ultron
I love that the Russo brothers were in charge for Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame...There's one line in this movie (Civil War) where Hawkeye and Black Panther introduce each other "Hello, I'm Clint."..."I don't care!" That line gets revised in Endgame perfectly, showing how the Avengers actually grew together when it was necessary.
I fanboy over these 4 movies, but they truly set a bar that will be difficult to meet again. Great reaction!
This movie is one of the best movies ever. Cap and Tony have their reasons for which side they chose. They are both valid reasons that are completely understandable based on their perspectives. I love how Black Widow lets Cap get away in the end.
I also love Black Panthers introduction. When I saw this I didn’t even know the character existed. That is hands down one of the best character intros ever.
Thank you for sharing your reactions!
A line that has always stood out to me from another movie (3:10 to Yuma) “Even bad men love their mammas.” That was the moment that broke Tony, the instant he saw Bucky kill his mother, nothing else mattered against the black fury. Sadly, Steve’s defense of Bucky painted him with the same murderous brush.
I don't think anyone else would have acted differently if we just saw video footage of our mother being killed.
@@jasonseipler2665 Anyone who is consumed by vengeance. But I think most people can rise above that.
Steve's defense of Bucky didn't paint him "with the same murderous brush," but Tony thinks it does. He doesn't have enough information about what Bucky's been through for the past 70-some odd years. If Steve had said that Bucky was his brother, who knows if that might have caused Tony to pause. Tony already knows that Barnes was framed for King T'Chaka's death. Steve chose to go lone wolf (with Sam) to search for Bucky instead of telling the rest of the team. Nat would've been a big help, but he excluded her, too. Hindsight is ever 20/20.
@@PhilBagelsno one is “rising above” in the immediate aftermath of watching their parents get murdered and seeing the murderer standing right in front of you
@@ForeverBrooklynNYC Speak for yourself. Tony's parents had been dead for what? 20+ years? There's nothing "immediate" here. In all the previous movies, Tony has been shown to be a very rational and non-sentimental person.
I just happen to live in Chadwick’s hometown of Anderson, South Carolina. this man has done so much for the kids & local communities here. Wakanda Forever, My King 🤴🏿 🙅🏼♂️ and Team Cap ALL DAY 🫡🇺🇸🗽
Excited for you guys to get to Endgame. It's a crazy finale
Patience... We will have our rewarding reaction video in time. It is inevitable.
@@jasonseipler2665 good one
Yeah I hope you guys enjoy endgame. It is a MAJOR disappointment!
The big that got me hyped up was when Spider-Man was coming home to MCU.
He was stuck with Sony for the longest time, but some how and some way Marvel Studios and Sony reached an
Agreement and got Spider-man back home in the MCU. That was the "HELL YEAH" moment for me. :)
Plus: Spider-man aka Peter Parker was a kid. A high school kid learning his powers and they had Tom Holland portray
Peter Parker and Spider man the best I've seen. :) Great reaction guys.
The Spider-Man reveal was amazing!
As a true fan of the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man….as hard as it is to admit….Tom Holland is the best Spidy ever!!! He’s the Spider-Man I read in comics as a kid! He looks the part as well as act the part! And surprisingly HE IS THE BEST ACTOR OF THE BUNCH!!! (Which he proves in “no way home”! The emoting he exudes when Aunt May dies is far beyond any performance of the others!)
Spider-Man was a "kid" in all film adaptations of the character or did you miss the high school segments in each film?
@@bobhobbs4332 I'll agree to disagree with you on that one.
@@bobhobbs4332 I like what you say but everything in (brackets) is super spoilery for this phase in the MCU. Personally I liked all the three actors. Each put their own personal spin on Spidey.
I love this movie, Black panther/Spider-man introduction, Cap being badass, the winter soldier, "thinks for thanking of me" - Ant-Man. Cap and Widows friendship, and the whole avengers being on opposite sides. Love it all :D
Bucky has had a super-soldier serum too. He was experimented on by Hydra. Even when Cap rescues him in the first film they had Bucky separated for experiments. They do explain it in The Winter Soldier but its easy to miss. Thats why he can run super fast, jump and deal with damage hits. Add to that a Vibranium Arm and you've got Bucky. He's a Bad-Ass!
The arm's not vibranium. Yet.
@@kenarbes Then why was there a moment in the first fight with T'challa in the building that their vibranium did a "magnetic pull " reaction ?
@@maxim196 T'challa wasn't in the apartment building. He was camped outside it, waiting for TWS to be flushed out. Where is this "magnetic pull" reaction? I want to see it.
The buildup of these 22 movies to End Game was truly a once in a lifetime experience. I find myself chasing how it felt to be in the theater when specific things happened in movies (especially ones you havnt seen yet). And that chase leads me to watching cam footage of clips in theater and things like y’all’s channel.
I’m following these releases as a build up for the end game payoff. Keep on doing everything y’all are great.
Damn it sounded like Thor came in at the end of the video 😂. One important detail ya gotta remember too that Secretary Ross said was an "American based group of super individuals" or something like that... American based, waging giant wars in foreign countries. After the smoke settles people forget about you saving them and politics kick right back in so that would put all KINDS of pressure on the IS government to wrangle in the Avengers. That's why the UN got involved. Just a little detail but it's important too. Good stuff y'all 👍🏻
Ross? The same guy that wanted to hunt down Hulk and weaponize him?
@@ricardoortiz4870 I guess he got all high and mighty when he became secretary of state 🤷🏻♂️. That or all politicians really are hypocrites
Fun fact: the guy with the sample that one that falcon thing kills with Redwing is the actor that played Thanos in the first avengers movie. Also bucky is a supersoldier he got the serum vision actor is literally the guy that voiced Jarvis. Also dudes name is Baron zemo. He is captain America most dangerous enemy in the comics.
The mix of both your reaction to Vision talking to Wanda at 17:45 is priceless haha.
The female perspective: "aww"
The male perspective: "That was like a really good way of saying, you can't leave" haha so awesome
The Comic book artform (and by extension the movies) when done well can be a great vehicle for discussion. In that way you can see its sci-fi overlap in the way it can explore themes and subject matter that is more difficult for other genres. Superman is an illegal alien trying to blend end. The X-men started as one long metaphor for the civil rights movement. Joker is an excellent view of whether individuals or society is responsible for crime, and the role of mental health and how we treat it. Winter Solider (the movie) is an excellent narrative of the surveillance/security state and "Big Brother". It allows an audience to explore issues that might split the general population without actually getting supporters of either side offended.
RIP to Chadwick Boseman (Black Panther) and William Hurt(General Ross) they will be missed
People don't talk enough about how RDJ turned Iron Man from a borderline joke character into a name known around the world.
Not really a joke
Don’t talk enough? Are you joking? 😂
he was never a joke lmao you surge no clue what you’re talking about lmao. iron man is literlsly the one who started this whole franchise and story. get informed abt what you’re talking abtBEFORE you speak cause you only look dumb asf
That simply isn't true lol
And now you guys are finished with what I feel is the best superhero trilogy (and one of the best trilogies ever) with Captain America. Excited to continue to watch you guys as you move forward towards Endgame.
Guardians better
@@angelvilla3996 Nope. Guardians 2 is an okay to bad movie. All Captain America movies are great. Captain America 1 is much much better than Guardians 2.
@@carlpeterson8182 honestly it’s down to opinion. I adored gotg 2, it was so good. But I found Captain America 1 incredibly boring. And a lot of people think the same
@@carlpeterson8182 I disagree I personally like gotg 2 better than captain America 1, plus gotg trilogy had a much more satisfying ending than cap trilogy
@@arrowtotheknee2617 sure it is all opinion. It is fine if you like Guardians or Thor or even the Spider-Man or Iron man the best. I think most View the captain America trilogy the best but it is all opinion. No real right or wrong
*🕯️ RIP Chadwick Boseman 🖤💜🖤💜🕯️*
16:12 They are Super Human Cap Winter and Black Panther each took a kind of super soldier serum. So the go beyond peak human abilities.
Okay, Captain America, Bucky, and the Black Panther have all taken different forms of the Super Soldier Serum. That is why they are all so strong. In the case of the Black Panther, the serum is a plant without any side effects.
One of my favorite quotes: "No. You move." Great reaction as always.
Next up is (in order): Doctor Strange, Guardians of The Galaxy Vol.2, Spider-Man:Homecoming, Thor: Ragnarok, Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War, Ant-Man and The Wasp, Captain Marvel, Avengers: End Game, and then finally Spider-Man: Far From Home.
Then just do yourself the favor and stop lol
This is not the order at all
@@milesmorales1789 Yes, it is. That it literally the exact release order which is the order you have to use or else the mid and post-credit scenes will be out of order. Chronological timeline order does work.
@Dayspring exactly bro
Man this really was Marvels goat phase.
The guy running at 5:00 actually does some of the choreography as black panther. his name is Gui Dasilva.
I really loved that you guys included every single LITTLE detail in your reaction. From reveals, dialogue, and acting. Showing what made REALLY made this movie .
I really felt like i was watching this movie for the first time again. And I watch reaction videos daily.
Love that you guys loved this one.
Black Panther, Spider-Man Homecoming, and Black Widow all are set directly after this, following the effects of the accords
+ Thor Ragnarok has a great explanation for Thors whereabouts at this time.
This was probably peak Marvel for me, they produced back to back hits from here on. Can’t wait to see you guys react to that soon!
well they probably dont want to watch black widow till after endgame because of blackwidow post credit
Both Tony and Steve had valid points of there stances. Tony wanted someone to hold the leash because in his hubris he went overboard created Ultron and it destroyed Sokovia, yes we can easily say Wanda was to blame for the vision but it wad Tony who made the conscious choice to plug the sceptre into an otherwise faulty program he never even asked input of the rest of the team he manipulated Bruce simply as a means to his end. And what does he do later he tries it again with Jarvis assuming with no cause the outcome would be different. Its a miracle Vision didn’t become another killing machine.
Steve also has a point too. After Winter Soldier with SHIELD secretly being Hydra Steve no longer trusts institutions to tell him what to do if a person like Pearce can come off as a good guy with evil motives whose to say one person in this panel won’t do the same.
Few things about the movie Tony’s ‘olive branch’ was a lie. RDJ himself said Tony had no intention of following through with anything he promised Steve. He was just saying whatever he could in order to convince Steve to sign. This is confirmed in a delete scene that shows that Everett had already agreed to release Bucky into T’Challa’s custody, which Tony would know.
As for Steve knowing about Bucky and Tony’s parents. According to the Russo brothers, Steve’s initial answer to Tony that he genuinely was unaware of Bucky’s role in the whole thing and it was the truth. The most he knew was Hydra was behind it and that was only from what Zola said in Winter Soldier. It also wasn’t a conscious decision to keep it from Tony, he just didn’t think about it. Steve knew Hydra might be involved based on Zola's word, which was before he found out Bucky was the Winter Soldier, but that was all Steve knew for sure. Steve didn't know if Zola was just screwing with him or not until the bunker he was being honest when he said he didn't know it was Bucky he never revisited it, he never thought about it again until he saw that video.
Now I am not Anti-Team Tony or Anti-Team Cap. The main reason for this is the Accords they don’t offer oversight, they offer control. The Avengers cannot make a move without asking the UN, who aren’t known for speedy decisions. How many lives do think would have been saved in previous MCU films if the Avengers had stopped to ask for permission? The Accords are a deeply flawed and unconstitutional piece of legislation that should never see the light of day and the start of a dictatorship I mean it denies people lawyers for one so that is unconstitutional as it gets. I’m anti-Accords especially when they are coming from a thoroughly corrupt man like Ross. People like to pretend what Ross did in ‘Incredible Hulk’ doesn’t count.
Movie also is the MCU introduction of T’challa AKA Black Panther. I really loved how he serves as a counterpoint to Tony in this movie. Like Tony he is pissed because he believes Bucky killed his dad and he will let nothing and no one get in his way for revenge. When the stuff in the bunker pops off and T’challa is confronts Zemo he has the chance to avenge his father but seeing the damage his path to revenge caused seeing how its effected the Avengers T’challa stands down and listens to reason. It was in this moment that T’challa wasn’t an impulsive prince but a wise king.
Well worded
Agreed, they both have valid points and I think neither side were the right option. I think what was needed was a middle ground, because the Accords were too extreme but they also should have some form of oversight. I do wish Cap told Tony about what he knew of his parents though, as a friend I would.
@@XxXDestroyer They _are_ their own oversight -- they don't need politics to make them puppets on strings. They should retire and let government fight Thanos (and nice friend you would be to hand over your friend who was your only buddy through the 'lean years' of your life)
@@MoMoMyPup10 Right and that's the part I understand Tony's position on, that kind of power not being its sole oversight. And I never said anything about handing over a friend, Cap only knew of Hydras involvement in their death not that they used Bucky for it. So yes I'd want my friend to tell me that truth rather then believing some lie. And he knows that was wrong, that's why Steve apologized for it.
I would agree except for one thing. If they had had the accords in place in the first Avengers movie, and had to get permission and follow orders, Manhattan would have been nuked. Realistically, all they would have had to do was threaten to leak that to the Press, and Ross would have backed right down. That incident alone should make the accords a non starter.
Honestly love your guys reactions. Loving your mcu journey and can’t wait till you guys are caught up. You guys are in for a great fun, sad, amazing experience with this universe. ❤️❤️❤️
Sad, amazingly sad, sadly fun, universally sad, sadly great!
They're like passed halfway through it already, I think they know by now.
@@MoMoMyPup10 they still have so much shit to watch shows and movies. Like relax
Wanda is really powerful can’t wait for you guys see more of her ..
I can't wait for you guys to watch the rest of the movies! They just get better!
Been so hyped for younguys to get to this been following your entire Mcu journey and its great seeing your opinions and whose side you take. Awesome reaction as always guys!
16:15 fun fact that scene was mostly practical where they're running really fast. About the only thing that was CGI was them taking out the mechanisms That helped with it
Awesome video guys! I love reliving the experience of these movies through you two!
The Russo Brothers really did the MCU well. They brought the tension, the action, the drama, and the humor. All bundled into one amazing package. I wish the Phase 4 MCU was even half as good as Phase 3 MCU.
My second favorite Marvel movie. Winter Soldier is first. Love your reactions ❤️
What no one i talk to semms to think about is, while that is 39:22 Tony's mom and dad, it's also Bucky and Steve's friend. Bucky is just as broken up as Tony.
Nerd BTW: Wanda’s power actually cranked Vision’s density to the max, so most of his fall was the sheer weight of his own body.
Mjm, most people don’t understand that scene but that’s why you can see the ground breaking because he is getting to heavy.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 Yes, and many not understand the visions powers of changing his density. At one moment he can be passed through and the other he is as hard as a diamond. That is his main power. So SW used his powers against him.
She made him dummy thicc
@@demianoff ???
@@carlpeterson8182 To be fair they didn’t gave any exposition or any information to the viewers that he can change his density so only the comic book readers knows that.
Top 5 MCU movie. U guys loved it as much we all did when it came out! So many surprises!
I do enjoy watching people take the MCU journey for the first time. Especially without much comic knowledge. Its a pure experience. You're able to let things unfold naturally before your eyes. Now Civil Wars central conflict is ideological, a debate over freedom vs. security, Cap believing more in the freedom of heroes and Tony believing in accountability, Both are reasonable positions to take & that's what makes it such a great movie. It makes you the viewer choose within your own personal ideology & This shows that these movies within the MCU can be meaningful, both personally and politically. It's not your simple black & white, good guy vs bad guy story. Even Ta'Challa realized it at the end. With that said, keep doing what you're doing, you two 👏
Do you remember Winter Soldier movie when Zola shows Steve how hydra was operating arround the world and how some "accidents happpened" with important people??. He knows since then what happened with Tony's parents. Thats why Steve cant lift the Mjolnir in Age of Ultron
This movie is so fuckin Sick.
Cap And bucky are my favorite in this
doing the ad under the blanket made it seem like yall never get off that couch😂. Its part of the brand at this point XD
So..I'm new here, and I ended up binge watching almost all of y'alls reactions for the past...3-4 days.
Idk what it is, but out of all the reaction couples out there, you two I just vibe with the most. I guess y'all really are........the perfect mix..LOL.
Anyway, y'all have a good one and keep up the great content✌
P.S> I'm assuming y'all are watching in the order of when the movies came out..so the next would be Doctor Strange. Between just the Spider-Man and Black Panther movies, Spider-Man would be coming first before the Black Panther movie.
Every piece of This movie is so Sick.
Cap is my favorite Marvel character. Regardless, the introductions to The New characters are awesome, needed. Spidey, Black panther , etc
It's awhile before you watch the black panther movie.
Next is Dr strange.
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
I like that you liked what Sharon Carter was saying about "plant yourself like a tree and tell the world "no, you move" ".
People usually misunderstand what she was saying and think she's telling the world to do what she wants. That's not it. She's saying that sometimes to do the right thing means going against everyone and everything. In this case Capt needs to go against the government and some of his friends to do what's right, even if that means he has to go rogue and become a criminal in the eyes of society. And that takes a lot of strength and courage.
This movie put more respect on T'Challa's name than the actual Black Panther movie(s) did. Even that fight with him and Bucky -- without T'Challa using his suit -- showed how skilled of a fighter he is.
ALL of the comic book fans freaked out when they saw "Queens" on the screen. At the time when they filmed this, Tom Holland was 18 years old; a teenager playing a teenager. It's wild, right?
How did Cap know about Bucky killing Tony's parents? It was from the 2nd Captain America movie; he had pieced it together, from what Arnim Zola had said.
Cap knew ever since him and Natasha found out In The Winter Soldier when Zola revealed all of Buckys assassinations thru the years and also revealed that HYDRA was SHIELD
I like how sanctimonious the US Gov is with the Avengers. They are the ones who tried to nuke New York City and Hydra was working, in hiding, inside the Government for years without getting caught. Also, Ultron was more of a Tony mistake rather than an Avengers thing. I can also see where the citizens would want to be assured of some kind of accountability for superheroes actions.
Tony is a Cohead representative of the avengers l. There is no separating the two because the world knows them as a unit and a probate corporation for which Tony is the person who 100% funds. Whatever any one of them does on their own falls down on the entire team. And I’m Tony’s case, he’s caused or been the cause of a lot more destruction than anyone else on the team.
Ultron is a result of Wanda mind fucking the avengers, too. Tony had the idea for ultron, but it was just an idea of how they could protect earth, only she caused Tony to see all of their deaths and the warning of Thanos. And of course he reacted as expected to try and prevent it. Bruce also helps to make Ultron. yet he and Wanda skate by on any blame from Captain America or anyone else, whatsoever, instead it all gets put on Tony and he accepts all of the blame for it. When really Wanda was working with Claw, and later Ultron, and she mind raped all of the avengers to ensure they relived or experienced terrible things, like Black Widow’s painful sterilisation, or sending the Hulk on a murderous rampage in Johannesburg.
And in Tony’s case he saw them all die, but nobody ever mentions that part or Wanda vital role in his decision.
And as Tony said in the movie, it was only a prototype model he made, Ultron built himself from that prototype which shouldn’t ever have been possible to begin with, but likely was because of the mind stone being in Loki’s staff.
Also forgetting that Hulk and Abomination rampaging through Harlem was Secretary Ross's complete fault. But he will never own up to it.
They are hypocrite for sure , and with some rather nefarious agenda . But that's usually the dangerous thing with evil , they can use some actual truth and twist it . The Avengers still did screw up and were arrogant in the beginning of the movie . There is no real reason why they could not have followed Crossbone and his men outside the city and then fight them , or at least somewhere safer . They literally start a fight in the crowd
@@laileleneirose7966 I dunno it's not that easy to entirely pin Ultron on her . At most she gave a push , and does not even know what Tony saw . Those visions play on fear , ideas and issues they already had . That's why Thor even followed that vision , because he already subconsciously had those suspicions and guesses about stuff going on over at Asgard . I think that Tony would build Ultron no matter what at some point . The assault on New York , and him seeing first hand the "mothership" when sending off the nuke , already traumatized him and ingrained that idea of creating a shield for Earth . It was a matter of time , it was just likely the worst timing there
Marvel is fun. Glad you guys are enjoying it. General Ross…same general going after Hulk in the Hulk movies. He doesn’t like enhanced people no matter what side they are on.
There isn't quite a good or bad version of the serum. The german scientist in the 1st Cap film explained it. The serum amplifies a person's characteristics. So good people become great people, bad people become worse people. Since the other Winter Soldiers were Hydra's main hit squad, they were already evil and murderous, so they became mindless killing machines with no regard to life. But Steve was already a good man, so he became a honorable fighter that defended against evil people. Same with Bucky until he gets brainwashed with the coded words that turns him into a killing machine.
there is an imperfect and perfect version. the perfect one went into cap, a prototype serum went to red skull, and an imitation went to bucky.
People said that Bucky in the backpack had notes of memory’s
Lets go This is so Sick
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25:40 Well Spider-Man does start off in high school. So they actually had it his age he's supposed to look like right in this one. Although I wish they'd stop redoing the high school bit every time they do Spider-Man
Bucky was injected with the super soldier serum whrnje was captured by Zola
Don’t know if anyone highlighted it. The reason cap knew about Tony‘s parents was he saw in winter soldier when the Zola AI was showing/everything Shield/Hydra was responsible for while he was asleep in the ice was the death of Howard Stark and his wife. The file never specifically shows the winter soldier did it, but Hydra initiated it all and made it look like an accident.
he knew they got killed by hydra but didn't know it was specifically bucky, there were many winter soldiers
This movie almost didn't have Spiderman in it, the deal with Fox was signed very close to the movie's release.
And if I remember correctly Steve found out about about Stark's parents from the Computerized Doctor Zola in Captain America the Winter Soldier, it was part of the conversation but not really focused upon in the scene. That's why Steve says he knew, but didn't know it was The Winter Soldier that killed them.
(Spider-Man is from Sony, not Fox).
spider-man is owned by Sony not fox.
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Whenever you finish Phase 3, start with Moon Knight and WandaVision, it’s pretty good to get your heads into Phase 4 after Endgame.
Still in my top 5 MCU projects; Civil War accomplishes so much in one movie! Doctor Strange is next!
Caps fights are just wow 😂how hard is he hitting people lol & I feel bad for Bucky he was mind controlled for years pretty much so much grief & the arguments were valid in this with the whole Accords
Bucky is also a super soilder just like steve
Steve knew about the starks murdered because remember Natasha gave a file of the winter soldier program to Steve at the end of the winter soldier movie
I believe that Ross and authorities wanted to have Avengers under their control. Great reaction as always, keep it up 🤝🤝
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This is in my top 5 or 6. It is hard. Avengers, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War, Guardians 1 (I still like it the best of the Guardians although 3 was great), Antman, Iron man 1, Guardians 3, Spiderman No Way Home, and Dr Strange are all terrific and probably my top ten right now (pretty much in order until the last few which could go almost any order). All these movies are really good to great to near perfect.
I am team Cap all the way. Tony is too emotional. He fought CA and WS even when he knew WS was forced to kill his parents. That must suck but he has to control himself enough not to fight. Same thing with the Sokovia Accords. He just signs them because he is feeling guilty. It was not his fault really but he feels it is because the meeting the mother and her grief put him over the edge.
If Ross showed up trying to tell me how to superhero I'd be like, "Who put you in charge? Who looked at your resume and thought, 'Yes, he should work with powered people again.' Because if they are going to decide where we go and who to save, they obviously can't make good decisions."
Ross? You mean the guy that wanted to hunt down Hulk and weaponize him?
@@ricardoortiz4870 Yeah, he was responsible for shooting up a town in Brazil that resulted in a bottling factory being destroyed. Then shot up a university campus in Virginia in broad daylight, causing millions in damage to property and military equipment and endangering the lives of the students and staff. Then had his "super soldier" run wild and destroy half of Harlem, New York. All while getting many people killed along the way. As well as getting his own daughter, and himself, nearly killed multiple times. If he showed up trying to order me around, I'd be like "You're not qualified. Go back to playing golf."
@@Barnuses The Harlem incident was all on Blonsky.
@@ricardoortiz4870 Not entirely. Ross approved and encouraged Blonsky to take the incomplete serum to begin with. The same serum that created the Hulk. He used a serum he didn't understand on a man he thought he could control. Then released him into the public.
@@Barnuses I guess Abraham Erskine was right, as good becomes great, bad becomes worse.
this movis is sooo good. #teamcap
zemo is so underrated. He literally won.
I looking forward you guys react for more MCU movies. I wanna see the reaction for Infinity War and End-Game.
Especially for Wanda Maximoff, i hope you guys see her solo series and movie (Doctor Strange 2). You can see how powerfull she is after becomes the Scarlet Witch. She is one of the most powerfull character in Marvel Universe.
Too bad wanda's character become shit.
7:21 Wait, that’s Amanda Waller🤣 how did I not notice that sooner??
This Peter Parker is the first one who looks comic accurate. He’s only supposed to be 14 or 15 when he starts out.
I won tickets to the premiere of this movie and loved it. I love the chemistry between bucky and Sam and Giant man ( ant-man) I was not expecting that at all. I believe originally they weren't sure yet if they could get a deal done with Sony to use Spider-Man so that's why they added Black Panther and then when the deal was done the stuff with Black Panther was so good they just kept them both in it.
This is one of the best to come out of the MCU and as messed up as things get, Team Cap 🤘🏽
Alotta people miss this point they talk abt it briefly in the 2nd cap movie but bucky is also a super soldier just like cap he also given a robotic arm to replace to the one he lost. When he got captured in the 1st movie was being experimented on if you remember and was given a different variant of the serum.
Regarding the Superhero Problem, it's true that superheroes spawn the creation of the supervillain, but then you're kinda stuck. Removing the superhero isn't going to remove the supervillain. Putting Batman in jail isn't going to make the Joker go into retirement, it'll just make it that much easier for him to take over Gotham.
Yes but you forget the initial rise of Heroes is because of the Villains. There's no hero without the villain being established first, the hero is the response to bad behavior and criminal acts. But I do agree with you, you remove the hero that does nothing but make villains more prominent and undeterred. It's kind of like the gun control argument in real life. If the government forces gun laws all it does is restrict responsible gun owners but it does nothing to stop criminals from getting guns so now citizens don't have guns but the criminals and the government do. But we all know criminals don't go robbing the government they rob the citizens. That kind of society wouldn't make sense either unless society believes only the government and criminals should be able to defend themselves while the average citizen is just left as prey. But hey we live in a complicated society.
I don't think it's the least little bit true that superheroes spawn the creation of supervillains. Cops don't spawn the creation of criminals. You can't blame one person's evil on another person.
Top 5 mcu film for me and i don’t think it’ll ever move from that list…. easily rewatchable and no other marvel film has the audience debating back and forth team cap or team iron man… the writers really did a great job with this masterpiece of a film 👏
The 'planet yourself like a tree and tell the world no, YOU move' speech given at the funeral is a speech Cap gives in the comics. Pretty iconic and very captain America
based heavily in a Mark Twain quotation.
Captain America is my favorite 😊
The MCU starts to hit its zenith from here on out. It's all bangers now one after another. Each movie baton relays to the next, each building to a crescendo with Avengers 3 and 4 which, without giving anything away, spoiler: they stick the landing. This is dope rewatching them all in a row again wit y'all. It's like reliving the first time all over again through you twos eyes. So cool. And What In The Actual F*ck was that thunder clap in your reaction room just now? Who you renting a room to? Thor! I swear, that picked up so loud in my headphones, I'd double-check your house to make sure the God of Thunder ain't chillin in your kitchen right now. Cause it sounds like he just dropped in on y'all unannounced. I'll let you go. You got guests to entertain from Asgard. You want to be good hosts or Valkyrie and them will give you a bad review on the BiFrost Yelp.
Just playing. That's Thor letting you know your worthy.
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Spiderman was owned by Sony, but Sony and Marvel struck a deal for spiderman in this movie and several more.
Next is Doctor Strange! Yall are officially in MCU Phase 3 of the Infinity Saga.
Yall had a great reaction. Watching ppl going thru the MCU journey is so interesting.
The three Cap movies are my favorite Marvel stuff. I think each movie makes the previous one better. It adds layers and depth to the story every movie, and you guys nailed it too, Civil War had so many characters but still managed to be a Captain America movie. That's why I believe they're the best.