The first 3 movies are the only good ones: The first movie had a cultural impact in the 2000s ranging from video games (just look at racing games from that decade like NFS Underground, Midnight Club 3, Juiced etc) to TV shows (remember Pimp My Ride?) to music videos. The second film is like a guilty pleasure type of movie. They doubled down on the car stuff but the plot was the weakest out of all of the movies. The third movie had the most effort put into its plot (despite almost none of the characters from the previous 2 films returning for this one) and most fans consider Tokyo Drift to be the best one: the plot, the racing scenes, the cinematography etc all were done really well. The 4th one is arguably a little underrated while the 5th one was a bit out of place compared to the others. The 6th film is where the franchise took a turn for the worse (and I say this as someone who liked the 6th film) and the franchise was never the same because of it.
By the way the Japanese titles for the Fast series is way cooler: The Fast and the Furious (2001)-Wild Speed 2 Fast 2 Furious (2003)-Wild Speed X2 The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift (2006)-Wild Speed X3: Tokyo Drift Fast & Furious (2009)-Wild Speed MAX Fast Five (2011)-Wild Speed MEGA MAX Fast & Furious 6 (2013)-Wild Speed: Euro Mission Furious 7 (2015)-Wild Speed: Sky Mission The Fate of the Furious (2017)-Wild Speed: Ice Break Hobbs & Shaw (2019)-Wild Speed: Super Combo F9-Wild Speed: Jet Break Fast X-Wild Speed: Fire Boost
Your video makes me wonder how Vin Diesel's career would have been like had he made more films like Find Me Guilty. I remember discovering the movie late on night as I was watching TV on mute (to not disturb others) and reading along with subtitles, his performance and mannerisms completely made me forget who I was watching.
Being a major tabletop RPG enthusiast, Vin Diesel has the skills necessary to create a character with strenghts and weakness following a great backstory for it.
I've been a fan of the F&F franchise since the beginning, and up until the third movie I've always felt that Brian WAS the face of the saga, but since the fourth fillm back in '09 I didn't like that Brian became a supporting character, a member of "Dom's family". They should've kept his leading character position just like they did with Dom because this all story since '01 started with Brian, he triggered the inicial plot. I also believe that F&F 7 should've been the last movie
I think Sean Boswell could have been a good replacement for Brian but even if his character got better with newer movies people would still argue that Brian was the true face of Fast and Furious.
And you know why it happened in the third movie? According to the channel bullets and blockbusters, Walker was approached to do the cameo at the end of Tokyo Drift, but didn't do it because he was mourning the passing of a family member. So they decided to go to Diesel instead. Who agreed to do it for free with the condition that they give him control over the franchise and the rights to the Riddick movies. The Fast and the Furious was conceived as a vehicle for Walker. Which Nerdstalgic kind of glossed over when he said "they had their leading man in..."
@@Cesarser004 of course I saw the video. I just believe that even if diesel got the rights to have creative decisions he should've kept Brian's status as it was in the beginning. I sence that his ego git in the way
I disagree. I don't see it. I don't see Timothy Olyphant playing the Dominic Toretto character. And no it's not because Vin Diesel is now who we all know as Dominic Toretto, it's just Timothy Olyphant is not that character.
Toretto works as the head of the family because he is a big brute with a heart. His size is key to the character. Olyphant doesn't have that imposing physical presence. He is a much better actor than Diesel and it's not even close, but Diesel was born to play Toretto.
@@Carloszavalalol It's not just about hitting the gym. It's Vin's voice, his aggression, his overall presence. Olyphant wouldn't be right if they were going for a stoic, deep voiced, big, burly presence.
The franchise would have faded into obscurity if it weren’t for Vin Diesel, completely different energy and relatability to Timothy Olaphant who’s a great actor in his own right
I think it is time for the family of FF to come to an end. I would love to see Pitch Black’s universe come back with maybe a cross over with aliens. Or just an expansion of the over all universe.
For me I felt Paul Walker was the leading man in the original , I didn't know both guys but Vin's character was the bad guy so I was with Paul's character
I get that at that point dom was way more different character that when diesel jumped in, still Olypfant was too babyface to play street thug in my opinion.
I would love to see a Ghostbusters 2016-style gender-swapped reboot of this franchise, with Jennifer Lopez as Dominique Toretto and Amy Schumer as Bree O'Connor. Not.
For car guys and girls the first 3 movies are the only good ones: The first movie had a cultural impact in the 2000s ranging from video games (just look at racing games from that decade like NFS Underground, Midnight Club 3, Juiced etc) to TV shows (remember Pimp My Ride?) to music videos. That film turned so many people into car enthusiasts. The second film is like a guilty pleasure type of movie. They doubled down on the car stuff but the plot was the weakest out of all of the movies. I'd argue this movie also had an impact on pop culture of the 2000s (the first two films are the main reasons why the Toyota Supra and Nissan Skyline R34 GTR became so popular even among people who don't know anything about cars). The third movie had far more effort put into its plot than the previous two (despite almost none of the characters from the previous 2 films returning for this one) and most fans consider Tokyo Drift to be the best one: the plot, the racing scenes, the cinematography etc all were done really well. The 4th one is arguably a little underrated while the 5th one was a bit out of place compared to the others (it's a Fast and Furious movie with very little street racing). The 6th film is where the franchise became what it is now (and I say this as someone who liked the 6th film) and the franchise lost a lot of long time fans because of it.
I was talking to one of me mates today and he told me about a Sophia Stewart. No way she told me this lady created two of most iconic films. She had proof and all that she was ripped off. The question I have is why did she get paid by the studios that created these films. If she was a fraud, why did they pay her? I'm so confused man. This is my childhood. I can't believe it, I refuse to do research on it. Just the name Sophia Stewart is stuck in my head.
They didn't pay her. She is mentally ill. She won a case against her lawyers, not the Wachowskis. She didn't create the Matrix or The Terminator. She's a fraud, this is easily disproven online.
This franchise needs to end at some point Paul walker is dead the franchise is starting to feel like mission impossible and the mcu not fast and furious
@@posh87bs Someone with emotion may do better. Vin is basically an NPC reciting his lines, in every role. I've seen better emotional range in high school plays.
@@Mauri.El.Creador Maybe that was a problem they leaned really hard into. "He kinda sucks, so let's go REALLY campy, like cartoonish almost. Characters AND stunts!" and it kind of worked.
@@HankseyHill yh but who with basic emotional range would agree to such a "script"? I'm not being an asshole here I'm really curious who'd fit better. Maybe some early non acting class Batista?
Unfortunately Diesel has ruined the Fast Franchise. For me the Franchise ends at 7. Fast 8, 9, & X are awful to watch because Vin Diesel thinks he is gods gift to humanity.
Perhaps the real Dominic Toretto is the family we made along the way.
You got the assignment
Dominic Toretto's vocabulary is limited to the English words "we", "are" and "family" specifically in that order.
- Rocket Racoon
I got all my sisters with me 😂
I'm conviced the actors will be elderly when these films finish.
TOTALLY ACCURATE
They already nearly are
That 1st film is so good. A real moment in time
The first 3 movies are the only good ones:
The first movie had a cultural impact in the 2000s ranging from video games (just look at racing games from that decade like NFS Underground, Midnight Club 3, Juiced etc) to TV shows (remember Pimp My Ride?) to music videos.
The second film is like a guilty pleasure type of movie. They doubled down on the car stuff but the plot was the weakest out of all of the movies.
The third movie had the most effort put into its plot (despite almost none of the characters from the previous 2 films returning for this one) and most fans consider Tokyo Drift to be the best one: the plot, the racing scenes, the cinematography etc all were done really well.
The 4th one is arguably a little underrated while the 5th one was a bit out of place compared to the others. The 6th film is where the franchise took a turn for the worse (and I say this as someone who liked the 6th film) and the franchise was never the same because of it.
No way dude he'll always have The Pacifier!
By the way the Japanese titles for the Fast series is way cooler:
The Fast and the Furious (2001)-Wild Speed
2 Fast 2 Furious (2003)-Wild Speed X2
The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift (2006)-Wild Speed X3: Tokyo Drift
Fast & Furious (2009)-Wild Speed MAX
Fast Five (2011)-Wild Speed MEGA MAX
Fast & Furious 6 (2013)-Wild Speed: Euro Mission
Furious 7 (2015)-Wild Speed: Sky Mission
The Fate of the Furious (2017)-Wild Speed: Ice Break
Hobbs & Shaw (2019)-Wild Speed: Super Combo
F9-Wild Speed: Jet Break
Fast X-Wild Speed: Fire Boost
YESSSS
these are so f** random
The original names are better
I think I missed the "way cooler" part 😂😂😂
Definitely not cool. But goes to show that for all of Japan, the F&F franchise is just another Mario Kart video game series.
I still remember when they were just petty thieves. Now these fools have morphed into Power Rangers.
Ayyy. I've never been on a Nerdstalgic video at 31 seconds.
Pitch Black on VHS is a pure memory high
Paul Walker was the face of the franchise, let’s be real since the last it’s just been a Michael Bay fest.
Fr Paul was a real car guy and was the true face of the franchise.
Paul was the HEART of the franchise. I feel the three without him lacked any real emotion.
Bay knows how to deliver what he does, so if that was supposed to come off as an insult, you failed
*It would be awesome if they include Timothy in the last 2 films as a new character, maybe even a lawful sheriff*
“A brothers love is a brothers love.”
- Det. Castlebeck
What if Timothy did a cameo in Fast X Part2... 😲
Vin’s deep voice fit the intensity of the first film.
Looking forward to “Fast 10 Part IV Episode 3, Chapter II - Brian is still alive, we swear”
Your video makes me wonder how Vin Diesel's career would have been like had he made more films like Find Me Guilty. I remember discovering the movie late on night as I was watching TV on mute (to not disturb others) and reading along with subtitles, his performance and mannerisms completely made me forget who I was watching.
Paul walker was the lead.
Kinda wild since he was very nearly Iron Man too. I think that one stung more
Tom Cruise should be the next villain in Fast & Furious
You...Stay...I...Go.
- Iron Giant
Olyphant would have been such an awful choice, there wouldn't have been a F&F franchise with him.
He’s a fantastic actor, but I agree with you. I just don’t see him doing well in this part.
Olyphant wouldn’t have become a producer and pushed for more franchise expansion.
But he would have killed it for a one-shot movie.
Being a major tabletop RPG enthusiast, Vin Diesel has the skills necessary to create a character with strenghts and weakness following a great backstory for it.
Timothy killed it in The Girl Next Door
I've been a fan of the F&F franchise since the beginning, and up until the third movie I've always felt that Brian WAS the face of the saga, but since the fourth fillm back in '09 I didn't like that Brian became a supporting character, a member of "Dom's family". They should've kept his leading character position just like they did with Dom because this all story since '01 started with Brian, he triggered the inicial plot. I also believe that F&F 7 should've been the last movie
I think Sean Boswell could have been a good replacement for Brian but even if his character got better with newer movies people would still argue that Brian was the true face of Fast and Furious.
And you know why it happened in the third movie? According to the channel bullets and blockbusters, Walker was approached to do the cameo at the end of Tokyo Drift, but didn't do it because he was mourning the passing of a family member. So they decided to go to Diesel instead. Who agreed to do it for free with the condition that they give him control over the franchise and the rights to the Riddick movies.
The Fast and the Furious was conceived as a vehicle for Walker. Which Nerdstalgic kind of glossed over when he said "they had their leading man in..."
@@Cesarser004 of course I saw the video. I just believe that even if diesel got the rights to have creative decisions he should've kept Brian's status as it was in the beginning. I sence that his ego git in the way
I love Knockaround Guys , one of my favorites
Yeah they were hard at work remaking Point Break with street racing instead of surfing. Real hard at work.
Hmm. Not sure how TO would have been as Dom but he would have made a good Brian.
I wonder how they interact during the filming of a man apart
It was not untittled, it was Redline
You should make a video about the art of bloopers at the end of the movie
I disagree. I don't see it. I don't see Timothy Olyphant playing the Dominic Toretto character. And no it's not because Vin Diesel is now who we all know as Dominic Toretto, it's just Timothy Olyphant is not that character.
Well obviously hes name would've been alot more Caucasian. N timothy would've acted it differently to vin
Toretto works as the head of the family because he is a big brute with a heart. His size is key to the character. Olyphant doesn't have that imposing physical presence. He is a much better actor than Diesel and it's not even close, but Diesel was born to play Toretto.
@@kh7688Cuz Olyphant couldn't have had hit the gym? Lol. Have you seen how small Vin Diesel was in Boiler Room?
@@Carloszavalalol It's not just about hitting the gym. It's Vin's voice, his aggression, his overall presence. Olyphant wouldn't be right if they were going for a stoic, deep voiced, big, burly presence.
The franchise would have faded into obscurity if it weren’t for Vin Diesel, completely different energy and relatability to Timothy Olaphant who’s a great actor in his own right
It’s videos like this that Drive me to Nerdstalgic.
0:14
And perhaps, most importantly, Family.
The hitman
there would be no fast and furious franchise without diesel if they choose olyphant the movie would have bombed hard
Whether you like him or not, he is F&F
I just can’t see another actor playing Dom
I watched the first 3, abd got so confused when i saw a recent trailer
They should make a multiverse plot twist and bring back O'connell
Heyo, what happened to the Nerdstalgic movie Reset?
Loved Fast X
Timmy elephant
I WISH THAT WAS HIS NAME
The name Olyphant is a hunter's horn made from elephant tusk. So, do with that information what you will.
I think it is time for the family of FF to come to an end. I would love to see Pitch Black’s universe come back with maybe a cross over with aliens. Or just an expansion of the over all universe.
Timothy who?
The man has Diesel in his name for fks sake. It had to be him lol
For me I felt Paul Walker was the leading man in the original , I didn't know both guys but Vin's character was the bad guy so I was with Paul's character
I can’t see Timothy 💀
how did i not recognize Olyphant in Gone is 60 seconds or Mandalorian?
I get that at that point dom was way more different character that when diesel jumped in, still Olypfant was too babyface to play street thug in my opinion.
BBQ lover 😂
Family
I would love to see a Ghostbusters 2016-style gender-swapped reboot of this franchise, with Jennifer Lopez as Dominique Toretto and Amy Schumer as Bree O'Connor. Not.
For car guys and girls the first 3 movies are the only good ones:
The first movie had a cultural impact in the 2000s ranging from video games (just look at racing games from that decade like NFS Underground, Midnight Club 3, Juiced etc) to TV shows (remember Pimp My Ride?) to music videos. That film turned so many people into car enthusiasts.
The second film is like a guilty pleasure type of movie. They doubled down on the car stuff but the plot was the weakest out of all of the movies. I'd argue this movie also had an impact on pop culture of the 2000s (the first two films are the main reasons why the Toyota Supra and Nissan Skyline R34 GTR became so popular even among people who don't know anything about cars).
The third movie had far more effort put into its plot than the previous two (despite almost none of the characters from the previous 2 films returning for this one) and most fans consider Tokyo Drift to be the best one: the plot, the racing scenes, the cinematography etc all were done really well.
The 4th one is arguably a little underrated while the 5th one was a bit out of place compared to the others (it's a Fast and Furious movie with very little street racing). The 6th film is where the franchise became what it is now (and I say this as someone who liked the 6th film) and the franchise lost a lot of long time fans because of it.
It's not deep. The first film was just a rip-off of Point Break.
I feel you might want to.... think a bit harder on this topic.
Bit by bit
It's perfect that Vin Diesel is the voice of Groot, because he plays every role so wooden.
He is not a good actor.
Can you talk about star wars' fan service problem😊
Tim would have been great in F&F, however, there wouldn't hanve beeen as many sequels, as Tim doesn't really do those, he likes to move on
Fun fact: Vin’s car runs on Diesel.
HELL YES
The vin number says diesel
Analytics
I was talking to one of me mates today and he told me about a Sophia Stewart.
No way she told me this lady created two of most iconic films. She had proof and all that she was ripped off.
The question I have is why did she get paid by the studios that created these films.
If she was a fraud, why did they pay her?
I'm so confused man. This is my childhood.
I can't believe it, I refuse to do research on it.
Just the name Sophia Stewart is stuck in my head.
They didn't pay her. She is mentally ill. She won a case against her lawyers, not the Wachowskis. She didn't create the Matrix or The Terminator. She's a fraud, this is easily disproven online.
@@Nerdstalgicyou're replying to a bot mate
This franchise needs to end at some point Paul walker is dead the franchise is starting to feel like mission impossible and the mcu not fast and furious
Overpowered import cars. FF 2F2F and TD are all import car movies with muscle sprinkled in.
The original was for "car guys" not every Tom , Dick and Harry , that and maybe 3 , now its a James Bond wanna be
hard to believe someone as egotistical as vin diesel once actually cared for nuanced acting
Paul Walker did the right thing, getting out of this franchise before it completely burned to the ground.
I am groot
Wouldn't matter how many actors they replace, the entire franchise is a dog and always will be.
Always thought Vin Diesel was horrible as Dom.
Any suggestions?
@@posh87bs Right? Like there is no Toretto without Vin Diesel.
@@posh87bs Someone with emotion may do better. Vin is basically an NPC reciting his lines, in every role. I've seen better emotional range in high school plays.
@@Mauri.El.Creador Maybe that was a problem they leaned really hard into. "He kinda sucks, so let's go REALLY campy, like cartoonish almost. Characters AND stunts!" and it kind of worked.
@@HankseyHill yh but who with basic emotional range would agree to such a "script"? I'm not being an asshole here I'm really curious who'd fit better. Maybe some early non acting class Batista?
Unfortunately Diesel has ruined the Fast Franchise.
For me the Franchise ends at 7. Fast 8, 9, & X are awful to watch because Vin Diesel thinks he is gods gift to humanity.
Vin Diesel's career will be over once he's done with this franchise
Tell that to XXX3, Or Pitch Black 2.
That's when he brings Kojak to the big screen. Who loves ya, baby.
I eaten an candles. The
The only good FF is the first one
FF4, 5 and 7 are pretty great films.
Superstar? He barely qualifies as a star. C list, at his peak.
Tell that to the billions he's made for the Fast franchise, on par with Marvel money mind you
And as way too often... asking for a like before delivering anything to be liked is an instant dislike
First comment!
First