00:00:00 MA v Karen Read Day 17 00:15:12 ON THE RECORD - MA v. Karen Read 00:19:46 Commonwealth Witness #43) BRIAN HIGGINS, Special Agent ARF, friends with Brian & Kevin Albert 01:41:51 Morning Break 02:22:54 EVIDENCE: Text Communications Between Higgins and Read on That Night 03:29:57 CROSS BY ALAN JACKSON 04:13:06 LUNCH BREAK 05:01:45 Cross-examination of Brian Higgins Continues #CourtTV Catch up on all the facts of the case against #KarenRead, Killer Or Cover-Up #MurderTrial. ⚖👇 MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?
@@ezsmum3064I agree! Jackson tried to manipulate him but he stayed calm and concise. I don't know how, but he did! I would struggle so much on the stand with how he speaks to witnesses!
Right. And maybe if someone gave a crap about the victim, they'd be considering a motive. Its clear they're all playing him. And he's dead. Higgins is getting love texts from karen. I think karen is kind a crap person and handful to date, but I don't think she killed him.
Did anyone else feel like they were in grade school with all those text messages back and forth? "What do you want? Well what do you want? I asked you first" ugh
No! That conversation was normal and the guy Brian was onto her triangulation scheme trying to set him up in her sick games of jealousy to make her bf jealous so he would pay more attention to her! She is Jodi arias 2. He was mature about it and standoffish bad! All guys are flirty like that with ladies! None ever grow up really on that mating stuff! I see 70 year olds doing it!
@@eloyow2193 Exactly! Bingo! Triangulation game scheme to set him up maybe to take fall for a murder she was plotting already! Or to make her BF jealous as she thought he was cheating when he wasn’t! It was her sick game! So glad he was onto her weirdo act!!!! So glad she could not set him up for a sex act to lure him into something to ruin his job or pin a murder on him! That’s what I highly suspect here! If she gets on stand prosecutor needs to hammer her on this!!!!! Bigtime! She is the conspirator and not any of those good people on the stand!
Aside from all the other shady stuff, the butt dials alone is a huge indication they're all lying. No group of family and friends has that many butt dials, let alone in such a short period of time.
Ummm ok. It’s an incredibly common phenomena. I get butt dials regularly. And it’s very common for it to happen from the same person, back to back calls. And it’s going to be within your circle of close contacts, b/c a butt dial usually always goes to one of the people you most recently texted/at the top of your text threads. But yes, let’s make a mountain out of a molehill bc everything this group of people do must be intentional & evil, unlike the patron saint Karen Read. 🙄
@@brandybiscoff9685 🤣🤣🤣 seven in a row that never go to voicemail, by numerous people in the same house, all at about the same time? That would be a phenomena alright. 🤣 Just like the “hos long to die in the cold” search and the convenient scrubbing of all their phones.
I wish i could give them kids a big hug right now. Hurts my heart to hear they seemed like a burden when they lost their parents and just needed love and stability. As a mom this pulls at my heart. I get it she isnt a mom but i wonder if the kids could feel that vibe she was irritated with the situation of having them around. I pray them kids have love, stability and do amazing things in life. They have three guardian angels protecting them im sure. 😞💜 Hugs, prayers, and positive vibes .
The COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY EXPERTS will decide the case. Was the search at 2 am and what about the calls? And how did the Canton PD CCTV for the time her car was brought in get "lost"? Why did Albert and Higgins clear their phones even though they were served with a court order telling them to preserve them? BRING ON THE EXPERTS.
@@Mooshkie50able the only one that needs to be worried about their girlfriend is the desk sergeant for that night, because he can't go anywhere, he's parked...
If the genders were reversed, people would be saying “oh he just had a weak moment being in a relationship where he feels unappreciated and unloved.. It’s not that deep. None of this means he killed her.” But when a woman does it, it’s the end of the world and she’s a horrible person, full stop. I hear a woman who loves John, but feels frustrated with their relationship and taking care of his kids, which she didn’t want in the first place. And she just wants to feel wanted. Is it right? No, but like Higgins said, it is what it is.
Every time there's an objection and it's sustained, that makes me much more suspicious than any answer that could ever come out of their mouths. What exactly do you not want the jury to hear so bad??
I think she hit him by accident, didn't realize it was him and didn't think about the "thump" until he didn't come home. That's when she knew where he was.
The defense made it look like they were blaming that young kid then the owner of the house and his dog and now they're making it seem like it's this guy... they're blaming literally everyone. Would love to see how easily Karen's defense would blame Karen if they were on procecutions side.
Karen Reed confesses to hitting him; her rear taillight on her car was broken and pieces of the light was found on the ground. What else do you need to know. She's guilty.
I side with the prosecution. I think the defendant initiating something with Brian while in a relationship shows me who she is, and I know the women that love the uniform no matter who is wearing it. I think Brian is being honest but embarrassed about being gullible to her as a smart cop it makes him look vulnerable. I think he held up very well, and the defense is acting incredibly desperate. If I were a juror I would be getting more than tired of my time wasted with repeated corrections from the judge on the defense. I think it's the only defense they could come up with is to attack the police like do many do and get by with it.
Literally their police work was so sloppy and do you really believe 8+ butt dials in one night is normal?? If the mcalberts are innocent why are they being so evasive and difficult? Also this trial isn’t about Karen’s character, it’s about if she intentionally killed John, which so far they have not proved that she did…at all
Agree but they have been from the dog to Collin then Jen and now Brian Higgins does that not tell you defense is clutching at straws sick conspiracy theories
@@cookieramlall9178I think they are trying to figure out what happened to JO. Please tell me how not one of the many people who left that house didn’t see a body on the front lawn - with headlights from multiple vehicles shining directed to that area?
Karen is guilty. Defense looks ridiculous trying to paint these witnesses as having a motive. They look totally desperate trying to push these nothin burger theories. And no, butt dials don’t mean anything.
@@andremichau2455 so far her saying some derivations of “I hit him”, did I hit him? You don’t think you hit someone unless you thought they were near your car and you probably hit them. Not one witness put John in the house. We still need to hear from ME and crash reconstructionist.
@@notsorryyouretriggered what’s been taken out of context? People recounting their experiences isn’t hearsay. Witnesses sound a lot more honest than crazy Karen.
You don’t have to do anything to call a missed call back except hit one button. The missed call is highlighted in the notification and if you hit it, it will call the missed call back
Gotta love the Boston accent. Brian "Albit". Yahd, Cah, Bawdy, Lore inforcement, shawk, Sahgint, keycahd. Last but not least - Sidebah, sidebah, sidebah!
I am not understanding why everyone seems to think Karen is innocent. WHY, if any of the people in the Albert house were involved, would they put Johns' body on THEIR front lawn?
@@christinab3019 There was no canine DNA found on Johns' shirt, so I'm not sure what the dog would have to do with anything. And after thinking about him selling the house, if someone was killed in my front yard, I would probably sell the house, too.
She told Brian Higgins that John spoiled the kids but in an interview she did, she said he would be mad that she was spoiling them. So which time was she lying?
People get new upgrades on phones all the time. It's been what more than 2 years since the murder and they aren't suspects. They didn't have to save or turn over a phone unless the police asked. Her lawyer said on youtube she ran over him in an interview by accident.
@@dianahilliard-dx2fnwell, they got rid on them conviently before the order from the judge was mailed to thier house by one day, but hey it happens all the time, and also people move all rhe time, but within four months of murder happing in your front yard on a child hood home, yeah it happen. And dont forget they broke up the concrete and remolded the basment wothin those four months.
Absolutely! My ex husband is a cop in SFPD. Corrupt as heck. He tried to get my friends arrested, he brought home stolen goods, did awful things to me. I reported all of it for an Internal investigation, and it ALL fell on deaf ears. 🙄
I've been married to a cop for 21 years. It's not the job it's the scum they let wear uniforms. Just like any where else you work. I was a 911 police fire and ems dispatcher for 16 years and the worst people to me was the press. I was always amazed how they twisted a store from a simple conversation.
Everything's fine until defense asks questions....then ... I don't know/ I don't recall/ maybe/ .....and best of all Karen did the hit and run but NOBODY EVER saw a body.....?????WTF 🤔
There is a study that people watching a video completely failed to notice a person in a gorilla suit walking in the video, because they were focusing on something else. Just because something is in our field of vision doesn’t mean we’d notice it. And I honestly disagree with Jackson on the idea that Higgins is trained to spot stuff that is out of the ordinary, but maybe biased because my opinion of police is pretty low after several years of true crime obsessions where over and over again, they overlook the obvious or ignore danger signs or just can’t be bothered to do their jobs.
@@kennywoo9012 The defense argued it but it’s not actually in evidence. So I dunno. If it is missing, yeah, that’s sketchy. But we’ve also seen the taillight was broken before the vehicle was impounded. I’m not saying there isn’t doubt. But some of the things the defense is claiming are just inconsistent with how things like perception and memory work.
Texts were so revealing. I really think she was angry w/John that night bc #1. Jealousy (on the drive over she heard they were going near Bella’s mom’s house which prob set her drunk & psychotic self off) & #2. Kids (if she was fighting w/John & leaving him there, whether that was her choice or his, she would once again be left “alone” at the house with his kids…) which she clearly despised per her callous texts. She was obviously extremely pissed at John for NYE a few weeks before all this, and clearly seems to have been trying to hurt him (cheat on him with his friend.)
Thank you!! I didn't know how to put in words the part about Bella's mom being a reason for that night but you said it all so perfectly! Anyone who thinks the whole town can conspire and keep there stories straight is delusional!
@brandybiscoff9685 Karen is NOT the victim here. I believe she hit him but still unsure if it was intentional. I lean toward just drunken rage but if she was so miserable why not just be friends or date someone more compatible? This elaborate conspiracy crap is insane!
@@SF-zp5px Of course not just from these witnesses,after all,no one said that they saw her hit him.Up until now,mostly everything was about refuting the defence claim that some 12 or 15 (I really lost count,but mostly like the whole state of MASS)conspired to frame her.
@hannahmackay754 yes totally agree!! I can picture her shouting something at him like “ why don’t you just stay at Bella’s mom’s house tonight (or ask HER for a ride home) that’s probably what you wanted anyway!!” OR suddenly realizing she lived close to one of his friends & started accusing him of cheating on her past times he’s gone over there.
I’ve lived in Mass my entire life and didn’t know there was a butt dialing pandemic in January 2022. This is insanity. I have also learned I have very different definitions of who is hot. Maybe I don’t belong here 😂
This may be unpopular but I believe she did hit him with car. I think she was drunk he was possibly bent over and she backed up to yell at him, hit him and drove off, possibly to drunk to know she hit him but I think she had an idea as she said I could have hit him, did I hit him. This investigation was hugely flawed and a fiasco but I think she is a manipulator and I think you can see that is her personality. Very self absorbed and I think she did hit him with the car. In what capacity, aware, drunk and aware, drunk and not aware I don't know. I don't think it was intentional but we may never know. She is responsible and if someone had seen him right away he would most likely be alive today. She is bad news and very unapologetic. I think all this throwing shade at these people is only going to go so far before people start looking at her under a microscope. I think this prosecutor is not doing a good job and the police were just unbelievably inept, on purpose or incredibly stupid. Are we suppose to think Higgins killed him over Karen? I don't think a kiss is enough. She was so alluring Higgins thought with his pe*** and not his brain? Really. Doubt is the defenses job. Proving it is the Prosecutors. But there is still a dead young man and she is at the center of it. Put on a circus but John is still dead. She is, I feel, responsible. She needs a consequence for her actions. I do not think anyone else is responsible. I don't see it. Sure they are all weird, but so is she.
@annaten1435 Agree wholeheartedly!! She should have just taken responsibility instead of destroying all of these other ppls lives! Misery loves company!
Well luckily there is a thing called the Constitution - people don’t go to jail because someone thinks they are “bad news” with no evidence of a crime.
Why delete phone calls if you're a witness then and throw away your phones when you're not supposed to? Also the butt dials. The sallyport video missing from canton pd is suspicious.. the tail light being found after the car was dropped off is suspicious as well. Dog bites on his arm.. too much to say she did it. Alot of reasonable doubt
BS Higgins was "just trying to sus out the situation!" He loved it and was into her as much as she was into him. They both should be embarrassed. These texts are hilarious. It's like reading messages between 2 highschool children.
@valiakloeppel7252 he claims John was a friend. Nevermind it's just tacky and shows bad character to pursue someone else's partner. He could've shut it down asap. If he really wanted to be with her, he could've told her to contact him after she leaves John. But, if John really was a friend, Higgins should know Karen is completely off limits.
So crazy how the media/society has already tried this case and most think there's a big cover up. Many social media influencers rallying outside the court for Karen. So nuts, even before the evidence has been presented. Has to be tough to find an impartial jury. I hope whatever happened comes to light and the jury does the right thing based on evidence alone. He seemed like a nice guy to take in his sister's kids. He was so proud of their achievements and seemed to want to do right by his sister.
Butt dialing not once, not twice but 7 times and somehow hanging up before it goes to voicemail. Too many butt dials, deleted calls in this little group.
She was not butt dialing from what I got out of that testimony. She was calling Johns phone to find the phone in the house after the fight is what makes more sense. No one butt dials someone 6 times in a row.
The number of witnesses involved was excessive. The majority of law enforcement officers were intoxicated that evening. In my capacity as a juror, I would render a verdict of not guilty.
Putting everything else aside.. from her own texts, Karen Read is immature & manipulative . She was jealous of John and Sullivan sister the way she was but then goes and talks to ATF guy behind John's back? ..making a fool of herself.. kissing flirting with him right under her boyfriend's nose while on his property. How dare she. You don't really want to know what I call someone like her. I have high standards. Karen losing points left and right. Doesn't mean she killed him, doesn't mean she didn't but.. just can't appreciate her type of character. Boo Karen Booooooo. John not only died that night, he must have also died a very unhappy man and that's even sadder..
I think the past 3 days has definitely hurt Karen’s character and shown her true colors . I now could see her drunken self flying off the handle and flying out of there. Could be she did t know but if 2 people said she was saying did I hit him, could I have hit him before she even knew he was hurt or dead says she remembers something happened. We don’t have to believe Jen but Kerry definitely seemed honest . I truly don’t believe all of these people are involved and despite the inconsistencies not all of it is huge Information. Geez I can’t even remember where I parked leaving the food store half the time imagine being drunk and having to remember every single word and everything that happened? I couldn’t . If Karen knows she did this she is a horrible person for ruining so many lives especially children.
Thank you at least somebody else is looking at this for what it is an not some Hokey Pokey story of who done it ..I can’t see that many ppl sayin all the same thing an not one person slipping up or change their story yet ..the fact that before she found John body she already has stated that he is dead she said he was hit by a plow out of nowhere..The obvious Things That has me convinced is: HER TELLIN KERRI ROBERTS AN JEN MCCABE THE LAST TIME SHE SEEN JOHN WAS AT THE WATERFALL BAR AFTER THEY HAD A ARGUMENT SHE LEFT HIM THIER ..SHE THEN CHANGED THAT STORY TO THE ALBERTS HOME AFTER JEN CONFRONTED HER AND TOLD HER THATS NOT TRUE BECAUSE JEN SEEN HER CAR PARKED OUT FRONT OF THE ALBERTS HOME ..Second: more then 3 different ppl some that has no ties to each other all said they heard you say “I hit em I hit em “did I hit em “ could I have hit em “ You can’t convinced me that 3-5 separate PPL are making that up ….An Then I Find it weird on How She Say When She left him at the Albert’s she just pulled off an didn’t even call him until She supposedly fell asleep an out of nowhere Woke up In a panic and callin ppl screaming Thier name making crazy statements ..I don’t know about y’all but after a night of drinking a partying theirs no way I’m falling asleep AND waking up less then 3 hours later out of nowhere .I believe she went home in disbelief of what she had just done to John and when she realized that he must of been really hurt after she hit him an ran him over She start to really panic And Had To get other ppl involved To make it looked like she didn’t know what happen to John ..Karen Read Is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
@@cookieramlall9178 not that I hope so but they have to show something. A lot people keep saying there’s more to come. Where did you find this info? I would like to watch ! Thanks
Could it be possible that Karen dropped him off and drove away without hitting him. Could John drunkenly slipped and hit his head and ended up outside the in snowbank. Then as one or more people drunkenly got in their cars and drove away, what if one of them accidentally ran him over. Just tossing out alternate theories. Not saying this is what I believe happened, but it is something that could have happened…..
I don't think injuries line up with the theories of either side. They probably could have gotten Karen off without these conspiracy theories that have ruined the reputations and careers (Higgins) of everyone else involved in this case. At least she could have been plead way down initially. I don't think there is any proof of intent on her part.
lol, plenty of couples have open relationships, or perhaps JO and her had discussed it at length and were both ready to move on, you will just never know unfortunately. Her flirting with someone doesnt mean anything, but I find it hard to believe he was just trying to see what she was up to, he was stringing her on, she was pretty direct in the messages and he was leading her on for a while. If you arent interested you say so from the get go, "yeah look I like you and you are attractive but Im not looking for anything, I think its best we stay friends" that would be a normal response.
@@CameronL-l5k she reminds me of girls I have known who tell everyone around them that it is an open relationship but the partner knows nothing about it! Typical for cheaters. Looks to me like all the other people who knew John , Loved him more than she did. She's having tons of fun getting all this attention and support. Looks nothing like a grieving widow to me. Just trying to draw in the next source for her ego. Sorry, I've seen it too many times.
@@praisingirlSome of you really just make up your own stories in your head and run with it, don’t you? None of what you said was fact, just your personal feelings. Try to stick to what we know instead of overlaying your own personal life story over another person’s relationship.
@@CameronL-l5k Flirting is not appropriate for Karen because she was still in a relationship with John. As far as having open relationships is disgusting, where is the love and commitment
So according to Brian Higgins, it was a traumatic and tragic day because a friend had been found dead on another friend's lawn that morning which is why Brian Higgins couldn't go back home and sleep and was at Canton PD instead and that's why he was talking to Brian Albert throughout the day but when Higgins was speaking to Kevin Albert and Chief Berkowitz, they were talking about something else? And when Brian Higgins would talk to Brian Albert immediately after having spoken to Kevin Albert and Chief Berkowitz, he was talking to them about something other than the fact that their friend and Boston Police Officer, John O'Keefe had been found dead on the lawn of Brian Albert's mere hours earlier? That makes no sense. On one hand, Higgins admits that's the reason he was talking to Brian Albert throughout the day was because of what had happened that day and because they are close friends but on the other hand they weren't talking about what had happened earlier that day because that would be improper as they were both witnesses in the death of John O'Keefe and Canton PD had been recused from the investigation based on the obvious conflict(s) of interest (being that Brian Albert's brother is a Canton PD officer and Higgins works out of that same building and John O'Keefe was found on Brian Albert's lawn where he had been dropped off earlier that morning/previous night by Karen Read whom Higgins had been romantically interested in and was flirting with until just a week prior when Karen ghosted him). This is such a mess and it really pisses me off that these public law enforcement officials and the entire Massachusetts justice system is so openly and brazenly corrupt and incompetent and yet seem to have no fear of facing public backlash because apparently they're all untouchable because the entire system is so broken and the mainstream media is too compromised, corrupt, and pathetic themselves to actually expose the corruption and therefore there are a lot of people who still believe Karen Read is guilty because they didn't actually watch the trial and just go based on the fake news reporting coming from the mainstream media. Like that CBS Boston interview of Paul O'Keefe. What a joke that was. That reporter should be absolutely ashamed and humiliated with her pathetic, softball, cover-up for the authorities, interview she had with Paul O'Keefe. No wonder the O'Keefe's still believe Karen Read is guilty. That's all they've heard for two and a half years from the Mass State Troopers, the Norfolk D.A., the McAlberts, and the mainstream media. If it wasn't for independent journalists and content creators on social media like Aiden Karney (aka 'Turtleboy') and many others, I don't think there would be any public outrage at this travesty of justice we're all witnessing. Court TV aired this entire trial and yet they shamelessly try to gaslight and deceive us into abandoning our own logic and common sense, to convince us to not trust our own lying eyes and that what we all just witnessed in this trial was perfectly normal and they act as if it's unclear if Karen Read is guilty or not but that she most likely is. Maybe the people who work at Court TV are actually just that brain dead and they're not being intentionally dishonest or malicious but it's hard for me to believe that anyone with an IQ above room temperature, who's watched this entire trial, could actually be that stupid as to believe that Karen Read hit John O'Keefe with her car. How could it be that everyone who's independent and free to express their true opinions, including many lawyers and former law enforcement officers, as well as millions of people from every walk of life across this country and planet, virtually all can see that Karen Read is innocent and that she's being framed for killing John O'Keefe and yet all the people who make the big bucks and who answer to their producers and CEO's are unable to figure it out? No. They have an agenda and it's not about giving truthful, unbiased, objective, common sense based news coverage. More people need to call these scumbags out for their lies, omissions, and gaslighting tactics and stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. There will be no change unless enough people grow some balls and demand it. Otherwise we're going to lose our country and become a third world banana republic or worse, an authoritarian society under the yoke of tyranny. Trump is not a threat to democracy; the mainstream media, corrupt government institutions, career government bureaucrats, and dirty politicians who all grift off of the hardworking American people and cover for each other like some kind of oligarchy or aristocracy are the real threats to our republic. "It's a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club" - George Carlin (although I believe patriotism is a good thing, not a bad one, and while I don't see eye to eye with Carlin as far as his ideas on the best way to go about fixing this mess, he was right on as far as diagnosing the problems). Be bold, fearless, and honest. God bless.
That’s exactly the truth and every new evidence and story that comes out will make it increasingly difficult for her defense lawyers to achieve the results they are looking for
I was shocked at the text messages. Obviously she and John were not getting along. She spoke to Higgins about owning a house so I think she should have parted ways with John. I feel sad that most likely she would have liked to have had her own children, but impossible due to her two diseases. . I really don't think she was responsible for his death. John's injuries were too severe to have been from a car. This was also pointed out in an FBI report. It was probably a drunken fight in the Albert house that went wrong. Also too much alcohol consumed by all of them. She should never have been accused. It's now just one big cover up of who did it.
None of those texts make her a murderer and it just gives another person at that house motive. Too bad they never investigated anyone except for Karen. A group of people don’t go through they much effort to hide what they’re doing if they’re innocent, and the prosecution wouldn’t have to rely on character assa$$ination instead of real evidence to try to prove she did it
@@bettymermaid8346 She's loose, she's a cheater, she's impulsive and wanted to do her BF's buddy, she's hot and most guys her age would tap her in a heartbeat, she's a drunk, she's a bitxh and prolly a mean nasty person to most people at any given time. I think she is capable of doing what she's charged with during a drunken stupor or in a fit of rage, and maybe even a Black Widow type. But with the butt-dialing phone upgrading message deleting drunken driving cast of lying witnesses it's becoming clearer that they are the guilty ones.
When the ATF Agent stated under oath that, “I ALWAYS tells the truth” why was he not challenged? He opened the door. He lies for a living. In fact, he’s had training on how to lie. He’s lied to about every suspect he ever interrogated. So how does that just slide past? Could have been a Fuhrman moment.
Well, if today’s testimonies doesn’t set it in stone that she was not a nice woman she didn’t like John’s kids, she had been fighting with him because she suspected him of cheating. Since day one, I have believed that Karen is guilty & the only thing that might save her is reasonable doubt otherwise I hope she has to serve the maximum sentence for what she did. And this is truly my own opinion. Feel free to leave yours just not under mine lol
I think she is guilty of hitting him, either intentionally or not. She has a very law self esteem indeed. Trying to fit in too hard into John's circle plus blaming him of cheating all the time. I don't believe her.
So.........the "BIG COVER-UP". The folks at the house did not even know if John & Karen were going to come over. And how would they know she wasn't planning on going in, because she was just going to drop him off. They were in disagreement about it.......she did not want to go. And you're saying that when neither of them showed up at the house (not knowing John was on their lawn for how many hours) & he was found the next a.m, all of them put their heads together & decided: "I KNOW, let's ALL of us........what.......at least 10 people........PRETEND we had no idea he was out there, and say "well, gee, Karen must have hit him with her car". SERIOUSLY? TEN people did not like John Okeefe? All on the same night?
@@Firestorm-n1s So ....again........they just planned what they were going to do? Did someone watch out the window, see Karen drive up, watch John get out, & then what? Karen backs up into him, he goes down, Karen leaves, & whomever is watching out the window does nothing? Says nothing? Karen would more than likely see someone watching at the window. So was this her part in the plan? This sounds like a truly horrible script for a movie. You really , really have to stretch your imagination. It would take that many people to plan one mans' murder? WHY? WHERE is the motive?
@@Firestorm-n1s And he never showed up. Jen ALSO testified that she went back in to the kitchen or dining room & sat back down. If she thought she saw Jens' vehicle outside idling & then it left, she probably assumed they decided not to come in. Jen didn't know that Karen was not planning to go in.
@@micm6343 If Higgins & Karen had something going on, maybe John & Karen were fighting about it. A good motive for Karen & opportunity for her if he was behind her car. She's a f-----g hypocrite, screaming and jealous of John all the time, and she might be fooling around herself?
The way Brian Higgins keeps looking at the judge for an objection and a way out of answering is VERY telling. Why is he looking at the judge to save him???
Higgins seems like someone who becomes unhinged when drinking. After today I can imagine him having his head in one hand and a double whiskey in the other.
How can John o’keefe’s family not see that Karen is innocent. No reason to get rid of phones, SIM cards, dogs, houses and not remember what happened that night if it was all the truth.
But a woman hitting on her boyfriends friend ( she's a police groupie btw) Higgins kills him ... then over a dozen ppl put their lives / jobs and kids in murder coverup to keep ONE guy from being charged with 2nd degree murder that sounds more likely ? come on !
Amazing defense attorney. Such a simple case case with nearly confession heard by several people outide of the "crime family" with car data, tail light evidence... found the body... went ballistic at 5am (bc she realized he didn't come home after the bump....) Slam dunk case, being mastered by defense attorney chaos...
I know the defence has a job to do but so far as I see they have proven nice families socialise together and drive cars and park them in places and enjoy their family and friends
Her true character is finally being revealed. Inappropriate behaviour and cheating with another guy, lack of integrity and morals. I bet the turtlenecks will still defend her. Looking forward to seeing their "theories" to wash away the facts that came out today. She obviously did it in the heat of the moment, maybe premeditation would be harder to prove. She'll get 15 to 20 years, maybe out in 12 if she behaves. That won't be justice for poor JO.
All I got out of this is one gal that hit a man - knew she hit a guy - was mad enough to not even check on him to make sure he was ok and drove off - a gal that likes to string guys along she's a " badge groupie "
Would Somebody please tell the Karen Read defense Attorneys to get a Expert PD dog trainer & handler /Forensic professional to examine the autopsy photos and testify that the cuts or scratches or bites on John O'Keefe's arms or body was caused by a dog, Would Somebody please tell the Karen Read defense Attorneys
I think Brian Higgins and John O’Keefe had words about Karen. I think that must’ve come out somehow and they got into a fight. It may be the nephew Collins jumped in.
No way. It’s impossible to believe that ALL of these people are in on a conspiracy. Why kill him in the first place? And leave him right on the lawn? I knew nothing about this case before it started and it’s not logical to me that they assaulted him, put him on the front lawn still alive to possibly be found, and covered it up. And dozens of people are all in on it. Please
This stupid judge in on the cops side you can tell. She's gonna have to fight them all not just the cops that killed that man. I was thinking she could of done it but now I know she did not kill her boyfriend.
The Judge is part of the corrupt system. She wants to see Karen go down to save her cop friends. The Judge kept cutting off valid questions by the Defense.
He had a long day after the services, then went to 2 restaurant/bars, 34 Fairview Rd., and … then to Canton PD. That’s a long day! What a douche bag!!!
AJ IS HORRIBLE. If you want a matter of fact answer, ask the question matter of fact like. Don’t ask it accusatory or they’ll get defense and start embellishing. It’s so funny AJ has all this attitude and then gets all fussy when the witness gets defensive. Bad lawyering. Just really bad.
00:00:00 MA v Karen Read Day 17
00:15:12 ON THE RECORD - MA v. Karen Read
00:19:46 Commonwealth Witness #43) BRIAN HIGGINS, Special Agent ARF, friends with Brian & Kevin Albert
01:41:51 Morning Break
02:22:54 EVIDENCE: Text Communications Between Higgins and Read on That Night
03:29:57 CROSS BY ALAN JACKSON
04:13:06 LUNCH BREAK
05:01:45 Cross-examination of Brian Higgins Continues
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This guy was a fantastic witness. Very credible.
@@ezsmum3064 You are joking?
@@ezsmum3064I agree! Jackson tried to manipulate him but he stayed calm and concise. I don't know how, but he did! I would struggle so much on the stand with how he speaks to witnesses!
Aside from memory and alcohol consumption problems, there's a very serious butt-dialing problem in Boston.
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Just your common Garden variety lies😅
Lmao
@@jewlz1960 😅
@@Peter-km7hb 😅
I feel so sorry for the O'Keefe family. It seems throughout all of this everyone has forgotten the loss they have suffered.
Right. And maybe if someone gave a crap about the victim, they'd be considering a motive. Its clear they're all playing him. And he's dead. Higgins is getting love texts from karen. I think karen is kind a crap person and handful to date, but I don't think she killed him.
Nobody forget. We are appalled by how dirty his “friends” and investigators did him.
@SF-zp5px They sure did and I would think that his friends would be appalled that her friends are protesting and he is at the curb.
Local trial. The fan club cheer Karen and they harass his family and call them names. Thanks to Turtledick.
@@d.friessoundandvideo2943 I think she killed him.
Did anyone else feel like they were in grade school with all those text messages back and forth? "What do you want? Well what do you want? I asked you first" ugh
'do u like me?' 'yes or no?' 'wink wink' 'tee-hee' 'see u at recess!'
me and my buddy were just saying this... oof how embarrassing, this guy's got all that out in public now that he was sliding on his buddy's girl. Smh
She was misleading that guy that's how I'm reading it
No! That conversation was normal and the guy Brian was onto her triangulation scheme trying to set him up in her sick games of jealousy to make her bf jealous so he would pay more attention to her! She is Jodi arias 2. He was mature about it and standoffish bad! All guys are flirty like that with ladies! None ever grow up really on that mating stuff! I see 70 year olds doing it!
@@eloyow2193
Exactly! Bingo! Triangulation game scheme to set him up maybe to take fall for a murder she was plotting already! Or to make her BF jealous as she thought he was cheating when he wasn’t! It was her sick game! So glad he was onto her weirdo act!!!! So glad she could not set him up for a sex act to lure him into something to ruin his job or pin a murder on him! That’s what I highly suspect here! If she gets on stand prosecutor needs to hammer her on this!!!!! Bigtime! She is the conspirator and not any of those good people on the stand!
Aside from all the other shady stuff, the butt dials alone is a huge indication they're all lying. No group of family and friends has that many butt dials, let alone in such a short period of time.
Ummm ok. It’s an incredibly common phenomena. I get butt dials regularly. And it’s very common for it to happen from the same person, back to back calls. And it’s going to be within your circle of close contacts, b/c a butt dial usually always goes to one of the people you most recently texted/at the top of your text threads. But yes, let’s make a mountain out of a molehill bc everything this group of people do must be intentional & evil, unlike the patron saint Karen Read. 🙄
@@brandybiscoff9685 Let me guess. You also believed O.J. was innocent.
@@brandybiscoff9685all of these people are claiming butt dials around the same time. I never said she was a saint.
That’s them looking for his phone not an “incredibly common phenomena” LOL!
@@brandybiscoff9685 🤣🤣🤣 seven in a row that never go to voicemail, by numerous people in the same house, all at about the same time? That would be a phenomena alright. 🤣 Just like the “hos long to die in the cold” search and the convenient scrubbing of all their phones.
Court TV has the best audio of everyone in the courtroom no one else
A cop doesn’t throw away a phone unless he has something to hide.
Wrong! Individuals who like to change phones do that all the time! Not because he’s a cop, he won’t throw his phone bwahaha
texting. like a 15yr old boy
😂😂😂😂😂- so when cops upgrade they MUST keep all their phones forever or their not cops. 😂😂😂
I wish i could give them kids a big hug right now. Hurts my heart to hear they seemed like a burden when they lost their parents and just needed love and stability. As a mom this pulls at my heart.
I get it she isnt a mom but i wonder if the kids could feel that vibe she was irritated with the situation of having them around.
I pray them kids have love, stability and do amazing things in life. They have three guardian angels protecting them im sure. 😞💜 Hugs, prayers, and positive vibes .
The COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY EXPERTS will decide the case. Was the search at 2 am and what about the calls? And how did the Canton PD CCTV for the time her car was brought in get "lost"?
Why did Albert and Higgins clear their phones even though they were served with a court order telling them to preserve them? BRING ON THE EXPERTS.
Exactly!
Couldn’t agree more! It’s very hard to argue Clear facts.
Shocking how judge stopped the defense asking questions at the end. This evidence is life changing. It has to be thorough.
This DA's voice modulation is too weak for his job.
SPEAK the F UP !
Oh I agree! And the *sigh* before everything he says screams "I can't be bothered to say this, but..... " 🙈
Get a hearing aid.
Rather listen to him than combative defense lawyer
@@valiakloeppel7252 Rudeness is completely unnecessary.
Well they all were drinking and driving I agree totally
Boy those text messages where Karen Reed is saying "you're hot" to the witness is hilarious.... wait till he shows up at the office on Monday, LOL
? What'll happen at the office?
What'll happen at the office? Is it fair to say she was the town bike everyone gets a ride….
What's funny is her thinking he was HOT 🔥 Hahaha!!!
All his friends will now worry and wonder if he might be texting their girlfriends or wives behind their backs since he was a friend of John's.
@@Mooshkie50able the only one that needs to be worried about their girlfriend is the desk sergeant for that night, because he can't go anywhere, he's parked...
Defense asks questions I'd want answered if I were on the jury. Too many "sustained." That's weird.
YUP This judge seems bias and never seems to let the defense get their questions answered!
@@Mooshkie50able like others say it's 'biased.' [but i can barely spell so- ]
Agreed. How can the previous testimony of a witness, under oath, be objectionable?
Aunt Bev is friends with some family
She should have never been judge for this case knowing them personally
the judge appears to be a bit biased.
I don't like this judge. Something is off with her.
If the genders were reversed, people would be saying “oh he just had a weak moment being in a relationship where he feels unappreciated and unloved.. It’s not that deep. None of this means he killed her.” But when a woman does it, it’s the end of the world and she’s a horrible person, full stop.
I hear a woman who loves John, but feels frustrated with their relationship and taking care of his kids, which she didn’t want in the first place. And she just wants to feel wanted. Is it right? No, but like Higgins said, it is what it is.
She shouldn’t have gotten involved with him when she knew he had the kids. Just my opinion.
@@SimplySuspiciousShawna doesn't make her a murderer
@@SimplySuspiciousShawnaIt doesn’t make her a murderer and it just gives another person at that house motive
You break up before dating someone new. Its morally wrong and dangerous to do what Karen did.
@@HappyMe-sr7vr
Like who?
Hearing the flirtatious banter in THAT accent....I m dying! 😆😅😄😂
I can’t handle this accent 😂
Accent is beautiful- great how each state has a distinctive flavor
@@rendog896don’t watch then.
@@jamiemackenzie722 I’ll watch what I want troll! Good day to you
Frankly,there is no funny accent,rather,it is interesting.There are some hard to decipher like the Appalachian.But I get the drift.
This defense attorney is sure reaching. Not buying it.
So many eye rolls watching these attorneys.
I feel bad for his family. Watching these people blame each other and they also flirting behind his back.
Every time there's an objection and it's sustained, that makes me much more suspicious than any answer that could ever come out of their mouths. What exactly do you not want the jury to hear so bad??
I see that too!
things the witnesses have in common - selective memory, butt dials, not seeing a body on the lawn of the house they were at
I think she hit him by accident, didn't realize it was him and didn't think about the "thump" until he didn't come home. That's when she knew where he was.
Processing over time than panic and cover up.act
The defense made it look like they were blaming that young kid then the owner of the house and his dog and now they're making it seem like it's this guy... they're blaming literally everyone. Would love to see how easily Karen's defense would blame Karen if they were on procecutions side.
Did she then get out of the car and bite his arm several times. Where are his lower body injuries consistent with a low speed impact hit?
@@rochellevenecia3365Just as easily!!!😮
They're constantly drinking! That's disgusting
So disgusting
Thank Goodness she is out of the lives of those kids.
Karen Reed confesses to hitting him; her rear taillight on her car was broken and pieces of the light was found on the ground. What else do you need to know. She's guilty.
So ridiculous .
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Exactly!!!! I don’t understand how anyone can think a whole town, including Ems is against her! They all heard her say she hit him!
Exactly! If the cops found mustard on Johns jacket, and a hot dog near by, you would think John was eating a hot dog!
K R is guilty l agree can also add evil cold and mean including her defense trying to derail the CW
I side with the prosecution. I think the defendant initiating something with Brian while in a relationship shows me who she is, and I know the women that love the uniform no matter who is wearing it. I think Brian is being honest but embarrassed about being gullible to her as a smart cop it makes him look vulnerable. I think he held up very well, and the defense is acting incredibly desperate. If I were a juror I would be getting more than tired of my time wasted with repeated corrections from the judge on the defense. I think it's the only defense they could come up with is to attack the police like do many do and get by with it.
Literally their police work was so sloppy and do you really believe 8+ butt dials in one night is normal?? If the mcalberts are innocent why are they being so evasive and difficult? Also this trial isn’t about Karen’s character, it’s about if she intentionally killed John, which so far they have not proved that she did…at all
@@danielleluby3296 it's also not about the alberts' &/or mccabes' innocence or guilt either.
@@danielleluby3296 Finally an intelligent analysis of this case.
Agree but they have been from the dog to Collin then Jen and now Brian Higgins does that not tell you defense is clutching at straws sick conspiracy theories
@@cookieramlall9178I think they are trying to figure out what happened to JO. Please tell me how not one of the many people who left that house didn’t see a body on the front lawn - with headlights from multiple vehicles shining directed to that area?
Protocol is handing the phone over without removing any thing on phone ! Big red flag 🚩
Makes me wonder what goes on with people like this in all of our towns
SAME
His testimony left me with many, many doubts.
They didn't like her... because of her. They don't like her because she ran over JOK
cmon b honest. ur mind was solidly made up a year ago. 😉
@@BoxerClovershut up already
Check out twisted tradidgies they give you all the evidence in advance was such a delight to see just how desperate her team is getting
@@Truecrimecafe 😂 u 1st!
The Butt Dial Club= All the witnesses this week.. Stay tuned
They need to test their pants fabric to see if it's humanly possible to butt dial through a pocket
@LegendLength according to Brian Albert his butt was in bed and phone was on night stand lol I want to see that!
Karen is guilty. Defense looks ridiculous trying to paint these witnesses as having a motive. They look totally desperate trying to push these nothin burger theories. And no, butt dials don’t mean anything.
EVIDENCE? Where is it?
@@andremichau2455 so far her saying some derivations of “I hit him”, did I hit him? You don’t think you hit someone unless you thought they were near your car and you probably hit them. Not one witness put John in the house. We still need to hear from ME and crash reconstructionist.
But deleted phone calls and searches do
@@mooshie504 Out of context hearsay from lying witnesses is not evidence. Keep trying.
@@notsorryyouretriggered what’s been taken out of context? People recounting their experiences isn’t hearsay. Witnesses sound a lot more honest than crazy Karen.
You don’t have to do anything to call a missed call back except hit one button. The missed call is highlighted in the notification and if you hit it, it will call the missed call back
So he apparently hit the button! He’s caught!
The defense especially Jackson is ridiculous, bullying and so far reaching 😮😮why is the judge allowing this of witnesses???
at least someone cares about the truth. Auntie Bev is not interested....
@@sandrabecht613 Bullying and reaching is "caring about the truth"?
You wouldn't handle the Jodi Arias trial if you think this is bullying
@@juerfe, I loved the prosecutor in that case !
Gotta love the Boston accent. Brian "Albit". Yahd, Cah, Bawdy, Lore inforcement, shawk, Sahgint, keycahd. Last but not least - Sidebah, sidebah, sidebah!
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I am not understanding why everyone seems to think Karen is innocent. WHY, if any of the people in the Albert house were involved, would they put Johns' body on THEIR front lawn?
Why would he sell the house, get rid of the dog and tear up the basement before he sold it
@@christinab3019is another way to answer that😂
Exactly they could’ve dumped John on his own lawn
@@christinab3019 There was no canine DNA found on Johns' shirt, so I'm not sure what the dog would have to do with anything. And after thinking about him selling the house, if someone was killed in my front yard, I would probably sell the house, too.
I don't think they would want to carry out a body put in car take to different places. Then they'd have to get rid of car to. Blood evidence
Does anyone here think Karen Reed is attractive. I don’t see it🤷♀️
Too psychotic
Not at all! Stringy hair, pursed lips, and a high level of arrogance make her the complete opposite of attractive!
No she’s really not. She looks like a bar maid to me. But she thinks she pretty. That’s obvious.
She told Brian Higgins that John spoiled the kids but in an interview she did, she said he would be mad that she was spoiling them. So which time was she lying?
Yeah, I caught that, too. It made it very much seem like she will tell whatever version of events she thinks will get her what she wants.
both can be true at the same time. she could perceive john as the one spoiling the kids even though john has told her that she spoils them
@@r.g6170 Possible I suppose. Not the vibe I’m getting, but of course we only see some of the truth.
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This poor guy seems nice . I hope he meets a nice girl . AKA not Karen Read
Yeah nice trying to hook up with your friend's girlfriend behind his back...
@@helsbels991KAREN TEXTED HIM FIRST- Hello 😂
@@helsbels991True but I think the majority of men would do the same thing. She's attractive and he thinks he's going to get some from her.
@@valiakloeppel7252 So what, he could have told her to get lost.
@@helsbels991 He did say to leave- relationship was toxic and she refused
She's innocent police coverup
It's funny how so many of these people the Albert's the Macabes Higgins got rid of phone's
Whoops sorry butt commented!
People get new upgrades on phones all the time. It's been what more than 2 years since the murder and they aren't suspects. They didn't have to save or turn over a phone unless the police asked. Her lawyer said on youtube she ran over him in an interview by accident.
@@dianahilliard-dx2fnwell, they got rid on them conviently before the order from the judge was mailed to thier house by one day, but hey it happens all the time, and also people move all rhe time, but within four months of murder happing in your front yard on a child hood home, yeah it happen. And dont forget they broke up the concrete and remolded the basment wothin those four months.
This is why you don’t date cops
because- ?
Absolutely! My ex husband is a cop in SFPD. Corrupt as heck. He tried to get my friends arrested, he brought home stolen goods, did awful things to me. I reported all of it for an Internal investigation, and it ALL fell on deaf ears. 🙄
FACTS
I've been married to a cop for 21 years. It's not the job it's the scum they let wear uniforms. Just like any where else you work. I was a 911 police fire and ems dispatcher for 16 years and the worst people to me was the press. I was always amazed how they twisted a store from a simple conversation.
Everything's fine until defense asks questions....then ... I don't know/ I don't recall/ maybe/ .....and best of all Karen did the hit and run but NOBODY EVER saw a body.....?????WTF 🤔
There is a study that people watching a video completely failed to notice a person in a gorilla suit walking in the video, because they were focusing on something else. Just because something is in our field of vision doesn’t mean we’d notice it. And I honestly disagree with Jackson on the idea that Higgins is trained to spot stuff that is out of the ordinary, but maybe biased because my opinion of police is pretty low after several years of true crime obsessions where over and over again, they overlook the obvious or ignore danger signs or just can’t be bothered to do their jobs.
The video of the car at the Sally port at 536 is missing and that isn't sketchy to you guys???? Then the tail light was found later?
@@kennywoo9012 The defense argued it but it’s not actually in evidence. So I dunno. If it is missing, yeah, that’s sketchy. But we’ve also seen the taillight was broken before the vehicle was impounded.
I’m not saying there isn’t doubt. But some of the things the defense is claiming are just inconsistent with how things like perception and memory work.
@@kennywoo9012 All forensic DNA evidence is now thrown out because some crooked cop stole the video to cover their corrupt asses.
Texts were so revealing. I really think she was angry w/John that night bc
#1. Jealousy (on the drive over she heard they were going near Bella’s mom’s house which prob set her drunk & psychotic self off) &
#2. Kids (if she was fighting w/John & leaving him there, whether that was her choice or his, she would once again be left “alone” at the house with his kids…) which she clearly despised per her callous texts.
She was obviously extremely pissed at John for NYE a few weeks before all this, and clearly seems to have been trying to hurt him (cheat on him with his friend.)
You have to truly believe in a long series of unfortunate events to believe this case is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Thank you!! I didn't know how to put in words the part about Bella's mom being a reason for that night but you said it all so perfectly! Anyone who thinks the whole town can conspire and keep there stories straight is delusional!
@brandybiscoff9685 Karen is NOT the victim here. I believe she hit him but still unsure if it was intentional. I lean toward just drunken rage but if she was so miserable why not just be friends or date someone more compatible? This elaborate conspiracy crap is insane!
@@SF-zp5px
Of course not just from these witnesses,after all,no one said that they saw her hit him.Up until now,mostly everything was about refuting the defence claim that some 12 or 15 (I really lost count,but mostly like the whole state of MASS)conspired to frame her.
@hannahmackay754 yes totally agree!! I can picture her shouting something at him like “ why don’t you just stay at Bella’s mom’s house tonight (or ask HER for a ride home) that’s probably what you wanted anyway!!” OR suddenly realizing she lived close to one of his friends & started accusing him of cheating on her past times he’s gone over there.
Anyone that thinks Karen Read is not toxic and manipulative after todays hearing then you really are wearing rose rinted glasses
Let me guess your last name😅😊😂
@@Peter-km7hb probably read's sister.
The Read fan girl club will just double down.
She obviously likes cops. Perhaps they're k987ky with handcuffs.
Saint Karen is not Saint at all.
Karen Reeds smiles make me so sad for John’s family sitting right there.
Bet you’re going to be even sadder when she’s acquitted.
They should want to know for sure who killed John.
This “investigation” makes me sad for his family
@@notsorryyouretriggered😂
I’ve seen them smile at one another too. She’s not allowed to cry in the courtroom.
Too many holes in prosecution.... sloppy.. Butt dials... Wiping phones....
I’ve lived in Mass my entire life and didn’t know there was a butt dialing pandemic in January 2022. This is insanity. I have also learned I have very different definitions of who is hot. Maybe I don’t belong here 😂
Everyone has different ideas on who is hot- thank God. And, this guy looks similar to John.
well at least u know looks don't matter.
It shouldn't what's inside ❤matters
@@Psychickitty-e2w I agree, but a man that actively peruses a friends girlfriend is not the epitome of hot to me.
@sandierads4223 l agree. That's a lack of morals, big time. There seems to be a lot of that going around 😳
This may be unpopular but I believe she did hit him with car. I think she was drunk he was possibly bent over and she backed up to yell at him, hit him and drove off, possibly to drunk to know she hit him but I think she had an idea as she said I could have hit him, did I hit him. This investigation was hugely flawed and a fiasco but I think she is a manipulator and I think you can see that is her personality. Very self absorbed and I think she did hit him with the car. In what capacity, aware, drunk and aware, drunk and not aware I don't know. I don't think it was intentional but we may never know. She is responsible and if someone had seen him right away he would most likely be alive today. She is bad news and very unapologetic. I think all this throwing shade at these people is only going to go so far before people start looking at her under a microscope. I think this prosecutor is not doing a good job and the police were just unbelievably inept, on purpose or incredibly stupid. Are we suppose to think Higgins killed him over Karen? I don't think a kiss is enough. She was so alluring Higgins thought with his pe*** and not his brain? Really. Doubt is the defenses job. Proving it is the Prosecutors. But there is still a dead young man and she is at the center of it. Put on a circus but John is still dead. She is, I feel, responsible. She needs a consequence for her actions. I do not think anyone else is responsible. I don't see it. Sure they are all weird, but so is she.
Totally agree, she was in a blackout after 9 vodkas…what is she, 100 lbs…she must have been totally BOMBED
@annaten1435 Agree wholeheartedly!! She should have just taken responsibility instead of destroying all of these other ppls lives! Misery loves company!
Agreed 100%!
Well luckily there is a thing called the Constitution - people don’t go to jail because someone thinks they are “bad news” with no evidence of a crime.
Why delete phone calls if you're a witness then and throw away your phones when you're not supposed to? Also the butt dials. The sallyport video missing from canton pd is suspicious.. the tail light being found after the car was dropped off is suspicious as well. Dog bites on his arm.. too much to say she did it. Alot of reasonable doubt
BS Higgins was "just trying to sus out the situation!" He loved it and was into her as much as she was into him. They both should be embarrassed. These texts are hilarious. It's like reading messages between 2 highschool children.
Why? He was single and she was not- totally different !!
Does not constitute as evidence to murder
@@valiakloeppel7252He was supposedly John's friend. He just allowed the wrong head to do his thinking.
@valiakloeppel7252 he claims John was a friend. Nevermind it's just tacky and shows bad character to pursue someone else's partner. He could've shut it down asap. If he really wanted to be with her, he could've told her to contact him after she leaves John. But, if John really was a friend, Higgins should know Karen is completely off limits.
@@ogcatladySHE got his phone # - texted him- initited a relationship and its his fault? 😂
Karen Read seems to be the ruin of everyone she touches.
She was kissing John’s friends and complaining about the kids.
That’s what I was thinking!
@@Ma-Callupe35His kids definitely knew how she felt- how she felt they were a burdén
@@valiakloeppel7252 I’m sure , deep down, John knew too!
She is a spoiled narcissist. Those lawyers created all this drama in hopes of covering up what she was guilty of doing.
I’m sorry she is not attractive John was a model compared to Karen…. This story is so weird
So crazy how the media/society has already tried this case and most think there's a big cover up. Many social media influencers rallying outside the court for Karen. So nuts, even before the evidence has been presented. Has to be tough to find an impartial jury. I hope whatever happened comes to light and the jury does the right thing based on evidence alone. He seemed like a nice guy to take in his sister's kids. He was so proud of their achievements and seemed to want to do right by his sister.
Sad that none of his friends actually cared for him
Simple answer,money.Few people behind the seen and one in the open started the whole cult.
@@TheWizardOfEgoOnly Kerry Roberts and her husband!
What is with people in Massachusetts butt dialing??
Butt dialing not once, not twice but 7 times and somehow hanging up before it goes to voicemail. Too many butt dials, deleted calls in this little group.
She was not butt dialing from what I got out of that testimony. She was calling Johns phone to find the phone in the house after the fight is what makes more sense. No one butt dials someone 6 times in a row.
She was drunk and accidentally hit him . Just own up to it ! Leave these grieving people alone
People in Canton Massachusetts haven't been schooled on The Art of Lying😅😊😂
I live here and my butt never does this. This special family must have extra butt power.
Lawyer: What if any characteristic do you wish to add to the stereotype of the "dirty cop"?
Dirty Cop: Butt dialling.
Jackson not bullying Higgins the way he did with Jen.
The court should never have let him talk to her like that.
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This judge is ridiculous! She needs to be off this case.
Why? She's fair imho
The judge is fine. STFU!
Please go to law school and learn the rules of evidence.
I really don't know who or what to believe anymore...the poor guy, we may never know the truth of what happened to him
The number of witnesses involved was excessive. The majority of law enforcement officers were intoxicated that evening. In my capacity as a juror, I would render a verdict of not guilty.
Putting everything else aside.. from her own texts, Karen Read is immature & manipulative . She was jealous of John and Sullivan sister the way she was but then goes and talks to ATF guy behind John's back? ..making a fool of herself.. kissing flirting with him right under her boyfriend's nose while on his property. How dare she. You don't really want to know what I call someone like her. I have high standards. Karen losing points left and right. Doesn't mean she killed him, doesn't mean she didn't but.. just can't appreciate her type of character. Boo Karen Booooooo. John not only died that night, he must have also died a very unhappy man and that's even sadder..
Wow.
I absolutely HATE it when I fall for women like Karen Read, and always regret it later.
And I believed that sister that nothing happened.
I think the past 3 days has definitely hurt Karen’s character and shown her true colors . I now could see her drunken self flying off the handle and flying out of there. Could be she did t know but if 2 people said she was saying did I hit him, could I have hit him before she even knew he was hurt or dead says she remembers something happened. We don’t have to believe Jen but Kerry definitely seemed honest . I truly don’t believe all of these people are involved and despite the inconsistencies not all of it is huge Information. Geez I can’t even remember where I parked leaving the food store half the time imagine being drunk and having to remember every single word and everything that happened? I couldn’t . If Karen knows she did this she is a horrible person for ruining so many lives especially children.
I think she hurt herself the most out of her mouth.Never believed the conspiracy theory to begin with,and more so after I heard her.
Thank you at least somebody else is looking at this for what it is an not some Hokey Pokey story of who done it ..I can’t see that many ppl sayin all the same thing an not one person slipping up or change their story yet ..the fact that before she found John body she already has stated that he is dead she said he was hit by a plow out of nowhere..The obvious Things That has me convinced is: HER TELLIN KERRI ROBERTS AN JEN MCCABE THE LAST TIME SHE SEEN JOHN WAS AT THE WATERFALL BAR AFTER THEY HAD A ARGUMENT SHE LEFT HIM THIER ..SHE THEN CHANGED THAT STORY TO THE ALBERTS HOME AFTER JEN CONFRONTED HER AND TOLD HER THATS NOT TRUE BECAUSE JEN SEEN HER CAR PARKED OUT FRONT OF THE ALBERTS HOME ..Second: more then 3 different ppl some that has no ties to each other all said they heard you say “I hit em I hit em “did I hit em “ could I have hit em “ You can’t convinced me that 3-5 separate PPL are making that up ….An Then I Find it weird on How She Say When She left him at the Albert’s she just pulled off an didn’t even call him until She supposedly fell asleep an out of nowhere Woke up In a panic and callin ppl screaming Thier name making crazy statements ..I don’t know about y’all but after a night of drinking a partying theirs no way I’m falling asleep AND waking up less then 3 hours later out of nowhere .I believe she went home in disbelief of what she had just done to John and when she realized that he must of been really hurt after she hit him an ran him over She start to really panic And Had To get other ppl involved To make it looked like she didn’t know what happen to John ..Karen Read Is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
There is a lot more to come in evidence proving her guilt
@@cookieramlall9178 not that I hope so but they have to show something. A lot people keep saying there’s more to come. Where did you find this info? I would like to watch ! Thanks
Twisted tradegaies
The judge is definitely biased. Never an overrule always sustained. Ridiculous really
If Brian Higgins isn’t worried, he sure should be!
There is no way this entire group of people went to these lengths to cover up killing John. she clearly was drunk and hit him and doesnt remenber
Could it be possible that Karen dropped him off and drove away without hitting him. Could John drunkenly slipped and hit his head and ended up outside the in snowbank. Then as one or more people drunkenly got in their cars and drove away, what if one of them accidentally ran him over.
Just tossing out alternate theories.
Not saying this is what I believe happened, but it is something that could have happened…..
Possible
I don't think injuries line up with the theories of either side. They probably could have gotten Karen off without these conspiracy theories that have ruined the reputations and careers (Higgins) of everyone else involved in this case. At least she could have been plead way down initially. I don't think there is any proof of intent on her part.
I think she killed John... but i think it was an accident. However, somehow she has managed to convince herself she didn't do it. Just my opinion
If anything, she may have accidentally hit him because she was hammered.
Well, there you go…so much for “she loved him! she wouldn’t kill him.” She seems like a narcissistic user to me.
lol, plenty of couples have open relationships, or perhaps JO and her had discussed it at length and were both ready to move on, you will just never know unfortunately. Her flirting with someone doesnt mean anything, but I find it hard to believe he was just trying to see what she was up to, he was stringing her on, she was pretty direct in the messages and he was leading her on for a while. If you arent interested you say so from the get go, "yeah look I like you and you are attractive but Im not looking for anything, I think its best we stay friends" that would be a normal response.
@@CameronL-l5k she reminds me of girls I have known who tell everyone around them that it is an open relationship but the partner knows nothing about it! Typical for cheaters. Looks to me like all the other people who knew John , Loved him more than she did. She's having tons of fun getting all this attention and support. Looks nothing like a grieving widow to me. Just trying to draw in the next source for her ego. Sorry, I've seen it too many times.
@@praisingirlSome of you really just make up your own stories in your head and run with it, don’t you? None of what you said was fact, just your personal feelings. Try to stick to what we know instead of overlaying your own personal life story over another person’s relationship.
@@CameronL-l5k
Flirting is not appropriate for Karen because she was still in a relationship with John. As far as having open relationships is disgusting, where is the love and commitment
@@karendueck2895 those are value judgements. Its not proof of anything without knowing all the circumstance.
Mr Jackson is just simply amazing! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Amazingly redicilous and annoying. Here's a hint: he lost the cross terribly today.
So according to Brian Higgins, it was a traumatic and tragic day because a friend had been found dead on another friend's lawn that morning which is why Brian Higgins couldn't go back home and sleep and was at Canton PD instead and that's why he was talking to Brian Albert throughout the day but when Higgins was speaking to Kevin Albert and Chief Berkowitz, they were talking about something else? And when Brian Higgins would talk to Brian Albert immediately after having spoken to Kevin Albert and Chief Berkowitz, he was talking to them about something other than the fact that their friend and Boston Police Officer, John O'Keefe had been found dead on the lawn of Brian Albert's mere hours earlier? That makes no sense.
On one hand, Higgins admits that's the reason he was talking to Brian Albert throughout the day was because of what had happened that day and because they are close friends but on the other hand they weren't talking about what had happened earlier that day because that would be improper as they were both witnesses in the death of John O'Keefe and Canton PD had been recused from the investigation based on the obvious conflict(s) of interest (being that Brian Albert's brother is a Canton PD officer and Higgins works out of that same building and John O'Keefe was found on Brian Albert's lawn where he had been dropped off earlier that morning/previous night by Karen Read whom Higgins had been romantically interested in and was flirting with until just a week prior when Karen ghosted him).
This is such a mess and it really pisses me off that these public law enforcement officials and the entire Massachusetts justice system is so openly and brazenly corrupt and incompetent and yet seem to have no fear of facing public backlash because apparently they're all untouchable because the entire system is so broken and the mainstream media is too compromised, corrupt, and pathetic themselves to actually expose the corruption and therefore there are a lot of people who still believe Karen Read is guilty because they didn't actually watch the trial and just go based on the fake news reporting coming from the mainstream media.
Like that CBS Boston interview of Paul O'Keefe. What a joke that was. That reporter should be absolutely ashamed and humiliated with her pathetic, softball, cover-up for the authorities, interview she had with Paul O'Keefe. No wonder the O'Keefe's still believe Karen Read is guilty. That's all they've heard for two and a half years from the Mass State Troopers, the Norfolk D.A., the McAlberts, and the mainstream media. If it wasn't for independent journalists and content creators on social media like Aiden Karney (aka 'Turtleboy') and many others, I don't think there would be any public outrage at this travesty of justice we're all witnessing.
Court TV aired this entire trial and yet they shamelessly try to gaslight and deceive us into abandoning our own logic and common sense, to convince us to not trust our own lying eyes and that what we all just witnessed in this trial was perfectly normal and they act as if it's unclear if Karen Read is guilty or not but that she most likely is. Maybe the people who work at Court TV are actually just that brain dead and they're not being intentionally dishonest or malicious but it's hard for me to believe that anyone with an IQ above room temperature, who's watched this entire trial, could actually be that stupid as to believe that Karen Read hit John O'Keefe with her car.
How could it be that everyone who's independent and free to express their true opinions, including many lawyers and former law enforcement officers, as well as millions of people from every walk of life across this country and planet, virtually all can see that Karen Read is innocent and that she's being framed for killing John O'Keefe and yet all the people who make the big bucks and who answer to their producers and CEO's are unable to figure it out? No. They have an agenda and it's not about giving truthful, unbiased, objective, common sense based news coverage. More people need to call these scumbags out for their lies, omissions, and gaslighting tactics and stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.
There will be no change unless enough people grow some balls and demand it. Otherwise we're going to lose our country and become a third world banana republic or worse, an authoritarian society under the yoke of tyranny. Trump is not a threat to democracy; the mainstream media, corrupt government institutions, career government bureaucrats, and dirty politicians who all grift off of the hardworking American people and cover for each other like some kind of oligarchy or aristocracy are the real threats to our republic.
"It's a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club" - George Carlin (although I believe patriotism is a good thing, not a bad one, and while I don't see eye to eye with Carlin as far as his ideas on the best way to go about fixing this mess, he was right on as far as diagnosing the problems).
Be bold, fearless, and honest.
God bless.
Geez Jackson attacks every witness so aggressive like they are a hostile witness. smdh Making no points with the jury.
Agree his overly hostile style is a turnoff.
How do you know?
Jackson has Little Man Syndrome.
@@laurieboutwell5553 Reminds me of Casey Anthony's lawyer self-righteously claiming her father sexually abused her.
Karen is guilty.
Can you imagine if all of these people are innocent, and Karen Reid is guilty and all the crap that she has put them through.
That’s exactly the truth and every new evidence and story that comes out will make it increasingly difficult for her defense lawyers to achieve the results they are looking for
True, but the door swings both ways.
I believe she is guilty. Her defense has built a fictional defense and she will get away with murder
Way too many coincidences for me to say she did it
Blondie girl… too many coincidences and butt dials and erased calls.. searches when there shouldn’t be any.. they set her up
I’d be lying if I said I don’t look at Karen a bit differently after today.. those text really painted a different picture m
I was shocked at the text messages. Obviously she and John were not getting along. She spoke to Higgins about owning a house so I think she should have parted ways with John. I feel sad that most likely she would have liked to have had her own children, but impossible due to her two diseases. . I really don't think she was responsible for his death. John's injuries were too severe to have been from a car. This was also pointed out in an FBI report. It was probably a drunken fight in the Albert house that went wrong. Also too much alcohol consumed by all of them. She should never have been accused. It's now just one big cover up of who did it.
The Cops were hiding something, getting rid of all those phones.
@@bettymermaid8346she said to Higgins- youre like me- i never wanted kids- jen has ms too and has kids
None of those texts make her a murderer and it just gives another person at that house motive. Too bad they never investigated anyone except for Karen. A group of people don’t go through they much effort to hide what they’re doing if they’re innocent, and the prosecution wouldn’t have to rely on character assa$$ination instead of real evidence to try to prove she did it
@@bettymermaid8346 She's loose, she's a cheater, she's impulsive and wanted to do her BF's buddy, she's hot and most guys her age would tap her in a heartbeat, she's a drunk, she's a bitxh and prolly a mean nasty person to most people at any given time. I think she is capable of doing what she's charged with during a drunken stupor or in a fit of rage, and maybe even a Black Widow type. But with the butt-dialing phone upgrading message deleting drunken driving cast of lying witnesses it's becoming clearer that they are the guilty ones.
Can’t stand this judge. She’s bias
the term is 'biased.' [don't wish 2 offend.🌹]
When the ATF Agent stated under oath that, “I ALWAYS tells the truth” why was he not challenged? He opened the door. He lies for a living. In fact, he’s had training on how to lie. He’s lied to about every suspect he ever interrogated. So how does that just slide past? Could have been a Fuhrman moment.
And also who has not flirted with someone after finding out your boyfriend has?
Only immoral would do that bwahaha
Being dead doesn’t make you a SAINT. I guarantee that John & Jen had similar banter amongst themselves… a woman can tell.
Well, if today’s testimonies doesn’t set it in stone that she was not a nice woman she didn’t like John’s kids, she had been fighting with him because she suspected him of cheating. Since day one, I have believed that Karen is guilty & the only thing that might save her is reasonable doubt otherwise I hope she has to serve the maximum sentence for what she did. And this is truly my own opinion. Feel free to leave yours just not under mine lol
I think she is guilty of hitting him, either intentionally or not. She has a very law self esteem indeed. Trying to fit in too hard into John's circle plus blaming him of cheating all the time. I don't believe her.
💩 take. Look at me leaving my opinions whereever i feel like lol
@@notsorryyouretriggered lol the deafening silence when asking about the technology
@Liljodi Agree wholeheartedly!! She’s a brat who thinks she should always get her way… I pray justice is served!
Technology says otherwise McDimButts
So.........the "BIG COVER-UP". The folks at the house did not even know if John & Karen were going to come over. And how would they know she wasn't planning on going in, because she was just going to drop him off. They were in disagreement about it.......she did not want to go. And you're saying that when neither of them showed up at the house (not knowing John was on their lawn for how many hours) & he was found the next a.m, all of them put their heads together & decided: "I KNOW, let's ALL of us........what.......at least 10 people........PRETEND we had no idea he was out there, and say "well, gee, Karen must have hit him with her car". SERIOUSLY? TEN people did not like John Okeefe? All on the same night?
They called & said they were coming over. Jenn kept watching out the window for John to show up. It was in her testimony.
@@Firestorm-n1s So ....again........they just planned what they were going to do? Did someone watch out the window, see Karen drive up, watch John get out, & then what? Karen backs up into him, he goes down, Karen leaves, & whomever is watching out the window does nothing? Says nothing? Karen would more than likely see someone watching at the window. So was this her part in the plan? This sounds like a truly horrible script for a movie. You really , really have to stretch your imagination. It would take that many people to plan one mans' murder? WHY? WHERE is the motive?
Higgins texted John at 12:20 and said 'Well??? You coming?"
@@Firestorm-n1s And he never showed up. Jen ALSO testified that she went back in to the kitchen or dining room & sat back down. If she thought she saw Jens' vehicle outside idling & then it left, she probably assumed they decided not to come in. Jen didn't know that Karen was not planning to go in.
@@micm6343 If Higgins & Karen had something going on, maybe John & Karen were fighting about it. A good motive for Karen & opportunity for her if he was behind her car. She's a f-----g hypocrite, screaming and jealous of John all the time, and she might be fooling around herself?
The way Brian Higgins keeps looking at the judge for an objection and a way out of answering is VERY telling. Why is he looking at the judge to save him???
Higgins seems like someone who becomes unhinged when drinking. After today I can imagine him having his head in one hand and a double whiskey in the other.
Actually it’s Karen who sees unhinged when drinking!
@@laurareidy9351
When did that happen?
When she flipped out at Laura’s sister upon meeting her!
@@laurareidy9351you should probably lay off that box wine😮
@@Peter-km7hb Hey, What’s wrong with box wine 🙄
How can John o’keefe’s family not see that Karen is innocent. No reason to get rid of phones, SIM cards, dogs, houses and not remember what happened that night if it was all the truth.
My thoughts EXACTLY!!!!
But a woman hitting on her boyfriends friend ( she's a police groupie btw)
Higgins kills him ...
then over a dozen ppl put their lives / jobs and kids in murder coverup to keep ONE guy from being charged with 2nd degree murder that sounds more likely ?
come on !
You are one of the few intelligent people on here.
She asked many times - did i do it? Thats innocent 😂
Amazing defense attorney. Such a simple case case with nearly confession heard by several people outide of the "crime family" with car data, tail light evidence... found the body... went ballistic at 5am (bc she realized he didn't come home after the bump....)
Slam dunk case, being mastered by defense attorney chaos...
I know the defence has a job to do but so far as I see they have proven nice families socialise together and drive cars and park them in places and enjoy their family and friends
I believe BH about the texts exchange. He didn't feel comfortable when she came over to his house. Nothing happened and that's why she left😅
He was super cautious on their texts.
Soooo, one night karen ignores you (guilty conscience?) And, the next shes hitting on you. Shes dangerous
B be crazy !
She strikes me as a bar fly type
Her true character is finally being revealed. Inappropriate behaviour and cheating with another guy, lack of integrity and morals.
I bet the turtlenecks will still defend her. Looking forward to seeing their "theories" to wash away the facts that came out today.
She obviously did it in the heat of the moment, maybe premeditation would be harder to prove.
She'll get 15 to 20 years, maybe out in 12 if she behaves. That won't be justice for poor JO.
Being a cheater doesn't mean being a killer
It doesn't make her a murderer. You just like cops that's all
Doesn’t make her a murderer
When Jen McCabe goes to jail that'll be justice. Hos Long does it take to die in the cold at 227 am ....
@@jorgenieves41 so we have 2 'like cops' 2 want justice 4 a kind generous & imperfect man? & a cop as well?
Brian thank God you never hooked up with Karen talk about dodging a bullet
Karen aka WeedWacker
Rattle Snake
Karen kisser + babysitter with benefits.
She is the one that dodged the bullet with that douche bag!!!
Wrong than God Karen never went to his bed to see what his ex-girlfriend said.
HUH???
Higgins turning redder, and redder towards the end.
Because Alan Jackson is a.... just like Barz was in the Casey Anthony trial
Karen is definitely a spider there's no doubt about it she loves bringing people into everything she does
The black Widow
I love this defense lawyer!
So why did he get rid of his phone hmmmmm
Brian Higgins looks like the guy in high school who would come up saying “where’s my hug?” And you’re forced into a sweaty and uncomfortable hug
All I got out of this is one gal that hit a man - knew she hit a guy - was mad enough to not even check on him to make sure he was ok and drove off - a gal that likes to string guys along she's a
" badge groupie "
this judge is with her 'sustained' when its important questions is frustrating
Would Somebody please tell the Karen Read defense Attorneys to get a Expert PD dog trainer & handler /Forensic professional to examine the autopsy photos and testify that the cuts or scratches or bites on John O'Keefe's arms or body was caused by a dog, Would Somebody please tell the Karen Read defense Attorneys
I think Brian Higgins and John O’Keefe had words about Karen. I think that must’ve come out somehow and they got into a fight. It may be the nephew Collins jumped in.
& then left him on their lawn to die??? All
Of them?? Come on think about what you’re saying
No way. It’s impossible to believe that ALL of these people are in on a conspiracy. Why kill him in the first place? And leave him right on the lawn? I knew nothing about this case before it started and it’s not logical to me that they assaulted him, put him on the front lawn still alive to possibly be found, and covered it up. And dozens of people are all in on it. Please
Nope!
that is his right to have an attorney ... for anyone!
This Judge is gonna be lucky to be allowed to continue to be a Judge after this is over
Reckon she will be investigated
I think they all drink too much, honestly
Oh....so now I'm understanding about the snowplow 🤯
How do you mean? That Jen told Kerry she thought John had been hit by a snowplough?
This stupid judge in on the cops side you can tell. She's gonna have to fight them all not just the cops that killed that man. I was thinking she could of done it but now I know she did not kill her boyfriend.
The Judge is part of the corrupt system. She wants to see Karen go down to save her cop friends. The Judge kept cutting off valid questions by the Defense.
He had a long day after the services, then went to 2 restaurant/bars, 34 Fairview Rd., and … then to Canton PD. That’s a long day! What a douche bag!!!
There was No Conspiracy with ALL of these people! She HIT HIM!
You're darn right she did. She even said so. She would've e got 2nd degree manslaughter, and her dignity, if she could've been completely responsible.
Yes she did. Guilty
Period!
Totally agree. Defense is good but it’s so absurd to think there’s a huge conspiracy.
If all 5 of you combined knowledge, your IQ would still be single digit.
AJ IS HORRIBLE. If you want a matter of fact answer, ask the question matter of fact like. Don’t ask it accusatory or they’ll get defense and start embellishing. It’s so funny AJ has all this attitude and then gets all fussy when the witness gets defensive.
Bad lawyering. Just really bad.
wait til the verdict,ok?
@@hanginthere65he was definitely better with Brian Higgins. Got his confidence back or something. Higgins showed some weakness and that helped AJ