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- Should we be surprised Bill Belichick hasn't been hired?! | Get Up
The Get Up crew talks about possible Bill Belichick landing spots following Raheem Morris being hired as the Atlanta Falcons' next head coach.
0:00 The Raheem Morris hiring
2:28 Adam Schefter has details
6:34 Surprised Belichick hasn't been hired?
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At the end of the day, he pushed tom brady out of new england and failed to rebuild the team in the 4 years since. He was given a lot of leeway and was allowed to pretty much run the team how he wanted. Most teams looking for a new coach are looking for some kind of rebuild, and are not going to hire the 72 year old who just failed at a rebuild.
Yeah it was amazing how many objectively terrible decisions lately people just were like "Well you just can't understand, Bill must have some master plan no one else can see - trust the process."
@@legitdragon6202 yeah like when he benched his CB1 right before a Super Bowl to flex his "players don't win games, I DO" Patriot Way ego, only to watch his "genius defense" get SHREDDED by Nick Foles LOL
but hey, not like Malcolm Butler ever made some Super Bowl winning play that could have come in handy that day, huh? Nah, i'm sure Johnathan Bademosi is just as good as long as it's Bill's genius system huh LOL
Bill passed on A.J. Brown and DK Metcalf to draft N'Keal Harry. Belichick has drafted just one All Pro since 2013. Brady haters want to argue that Bill's defenses "carried" Tom, while Belichick's defenses never carried Drew Bledsoe, Matt Cassel, Cam Newton, Mac Jones, or Bailey Zappe to a super bowl. You can't make this stuff up. Tom carried Bill because he kept his offenses on the field to rest his defense.
At the end of the day, he has 6 Super Bowl rings
that Tom Brady was QB for.......@@daviiwonder
Bart you didn’t come up with that line…it’s from the dark knight lmao
😂😂
He didn’t say he came up with it, he said he says it all the time.
He botched it soooo badly
Belichick is like 83-104 without Brady, he has won just one playoff game in 11 seasons without him, he has zero division titles without him, and zero conference championship or super bowl appearances without him. And people STILL wonder why owners and managers don't want Bill? Andy Reid made it to Super Bowl 39 with Donovan McNabb, had 5 NFC Championship appearances, and won a wild card game in 2015 with Alex Smith and the Chiefs. He did all of that without Mahomes. Let that sink in.
Belichick is Jeff Fisher without Brady. That fact just kills all the Belicheat fanboys.
Brady would have threepeated with Reid. Imagine if he was drafted by the Ravens and had Ray Lewis on his defense.
aye early 2000s McNabb was nice. He could sling it with the best of em.
Are you that dense? His roster hasn't had talent at all to do anything. Cap issues and old guys getting off the roster, without bills defense of mind brady wouldn't be as good as he was. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS
Truth be told, the Patriots were loaded and played in a weak division. I said it while it was happening. Anyone could have done what Belichick did. What genius coaching moves did he make to be justified as the "greatest coach of all-time"? When you have the best team in the league, you're supposed to win. If anything, he underachieved because of all the times he got upset in the Super Bowl, just like Dave Roberts with the loaded Dodgers.
We'll never forget Bill benching Malcolm Butler in Super Bowl 52. Let's see Mahomes win something when Reid benches Travis Kelce or Chris Jones in the super bowl. It's tough to win the big game when you have your own coach and a defense playing against you.
Comparing Butler to Jones and Kelce is wild. 😂
@@mightymitch1421 Why is it wild? Brady won four super bowls without Gronk. How many has Mahomes won without Kelce? Zero. Butler was arguably the defense's best defensive back.
@jamesanthony3195 it's wild cm9n now. Let's not act like maclcom butter was elite. I agree it being a terrible decision to make
@@jamesanthony3195bro completing ignoring how Tom won some of those sbs
Agree - benching Malcom Butler after Butler saved New England from losing a Super Bowl was a terrible decision by Belichick.
Not having a winning season without Tom Brady is haunting him throughout his availability.
bill had a history way be for brady why new England handed over the keys to the patriots to him I'm 54 i watched Phil sims rookie year and is bad knee i watched boomers rookie year dan Marino s too i watched Oj Simpson make you feal the cold with those isotone leather gloves that don't fit LIVE MONDAY night football and many others including Jim Harbaugh Payton manning vs Ryan leaf and all of bill Belichicks coaching career lot more to bill then patriots bill is a defence geniuses he was the only one to have an answer to west cost offence even in his first bad yea leading to his fire this year his defence was still in top 10 here is food for thought bill didn't like jones cause he went over bills head for help bill ended jones career he could have done same to brady if he wanted to and we would never know the man brady as nobody else was interested there were alot of things going on in patriots land your top of block every ones poaching your staff and your losing draft picks do to penalty's he still did better then many teams with less baggage till the end
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He could take his time Dallas could be his most lucrative option they have the capital.
These reporters are stuck in the past. Because you're the all-time greatest coach, it doesn't mean you're the best coach right now. What has Bill done since he showed Tom Brady the door 4 years ago? Nothing.
Made the playoffs, had a pro bowl QB, coached a top 5 defense every year...the problem isnt him as a coach, its him as a GM
@marklumar2034 You are talking about the past, not what Bill has done over the past years. The problem is Bill the coach and GM. Todays players do not want to be coached by these old school coaches. If they can't adapt, they will be done.
@madboyreadynow28 no im talking about since brady left which is what you asked
They are not stuck in the past. They have built a cvlt around Belichick for 20 years, and they desperately want to see Belichick succeed in another team to prove that they were not wrong.
Obviously Bob Kraft is not giving him a positive reference. If Bob Kraft said to another owner, "Bill will win you a Super Bowl!" he'd have a job. What he's probably saying is, " Bill started to lose his fastball five years ago. I should have moved on after he won in 2018. He ran Tom Brady off and ran the program down to 4-13. I made a mistake keeping him."
He lost his fastball once #12 walked out the door. #12 was his fastball.
Ryan Clark nailed it
Clark is a racist pansy. What’s wrong with hiring an old white white greenburgh. What weak and pathetic individual he is.
Death by his own precedent. If you're not good enough for New England you're not good enough to stay in the league. Teams are still conditioned to that. Also the fact that bills underlings have more misses than hits venturing outside of Foxborough........not that hard to see why actually. Also the man is 70+
Nice opinion
@@Iniquityslashermore like facts..all bills assistants have failed 😅 not sure you know what an opinion is
Has anyone reported Belichick’s record without Brady. Why would anyone want to hire a 72 year old whose only goal is to beat Shula’s record.
Agreed
Thank you 😊
Is tom brady coming with bill belicheck? Lol
Simpletons of ESPN, Bill is overrated. He proved it in the last 3 yrs. To which Mike Tomlin made the playoffs to bills 1 time without said superstar. Bill ran tom out, discouraged young talent, terrible draft picks, oh and the major one, he cheated. No one in the NFL forgot that.
Exactly my sentiments well put
What has he done since TB left New England?
since Tom left (/was forced out by Bill) AND before Tom arrived, Bill's record is nothing.....absolutely ZERO success on either side of the Brady era, while Brady still enjoyed ultimate success without Bill
it's literally not even a debate at this point lol
Had Belichick won that Super Bowl with Matt Cassell we might be having a different conversation.
Problem is no front office wants to give up their GM power, offensive minded HC is where the league is going, and his track record post Brady is pretty bad.
Too bad
All that talk of being the best ever..
If he isn't then who is
The guy is 82-98 without Brady. Brady won a SB his first season without Brady. The rest of the league isn't fooled.
He was flat out bad before and after Brady. I’d hire Brady.
The trend is for offensive head coaches because if you have a defensive head coach and find a good offensive coordinator the coordinator gets hired away as a head coach.
It's so obvious why teams aren't jumping for Bill and not sure why no one in the media will say it. He was GM/coach and had more control than most coaches could dream of and it speaks for itself. His record with and with out Brady, (just like Bruce Arians) is a big difference. It's not shocking in the slightest, and personally I don't think it's Bill's age, it's results. The league is what have you done for me lately and Bill has been and irrelevant below average coach since Brady.
Media: Emporer Belichick's clothes are the finest in all the land!
You do have a point but thats not entirely true. The reality is his results are 6 super bowls, been to 5 in the last 10 years
This is not shocking at all. He is about to be 72. The league is in a new era where younger coaches are needed to relate to the players and either are offensive minds or able to hire the right OC (i.e Demeco Ryans hiring Slowik)
Bill Belichik the past 4 years has a losing record, made the playoffs once and stunted Mac Jones’ growth with the hirings of Joe Judge and Patricia. And has had terrible drafts.
This is not shocking at all.
Bill should coach at a college.
that would be awesome. i'd rather watch him coach at that level.
It’s ok for his time to be up, he has a legacy already, if I’m him just walk away… Ps Brady was the reason he was successful in my opinion remember is my opinion
Belichick may not get the record now
Recent records don’t help but given the age also it screams a short term deal as opposed to building a direction long term , it would have to be a situation that has pieces for results quick
Belichick should've just been a defensive coordinator, but he stumbled upon the greatest QB of all time. He got lucky. His mumbling personality may not work in a new setting in 2024.
Correct. BB had been fired from most of the teams he had worked for and the Giants refused to hire him once Parcells left. He's not the only one though. Tony Dungy was also fired from all the teams he had worked for before Peyton Manning walked onto his field. But, he was smart enough to leave when Manning's health became an issue.
Yoda to Sidious: Surprised are you?
I didn't realize you get head coaching jobs in the NFL for being a good guy
No. He's know for having extreme control over an organization and only has a couple years left to coach. That leaves you with nothing in a couple years.
The Matt Patricia as OC is what is haunting him. That was gross.
He should consider being a defensive coordinator somewhere next year to stay in the game. Otherwise, sitting out a season is going to push him into complete obsolescence.
No. You should NOT be surprised at all.
The way it's going for Dallas... They'll call him mid season 🤣
Given how his defense played against elite teams in last 4 seasons, how will Belichick improve Cowboys's chance in playoff?
@@williamli6200 It isn't about getting better with Dallas, it's about where Jerry thinks the last hope is 🤣
@@djedman10 I believe that the reason Jerry keeps McCarthy is because he doesn't want Belichick. If he had let McCarthy go, media would have fanatically shoveled Belichick down to his throat.
Whether he should hire Belichick or not is another question.
@@williamli6200 Jerry had Jason Garrett during 9 full seasons... I don't believe he cares that much about what the media says, he just wants them to talk.
Brady winning the SB with the Bucs showed that Belichick needed Brady more than Brady needed Belichick to win.
I agree it was the ultimate dagger to bill’s legacy
I don't think it means anything in terms of deciding if it was more Brady than Belichick because Brady chose a fairly loaded team. A star player joining other really good players to win a championship sounds like an NBA story. It's great for those who can do it -- but it's not really evidence that it was more Brady than Belichick.
It also ignores Belichick's other 2 SBs.
@@SC-gs8dc there’s a lot of evidence
@@SC-gs8dc As a defensive coordinator but as a head coach he has 6
@@SC-gs8dcWhy shouldn't rings as a DC be ignored in a HC vs. QB discussion? It was 75% Brady because Bill's career winning percentage is 75% greater with Brady than without.
Good closing thought from Ryan Clark I guess
He hasn’t been hired because he can’t explain pushing out Tom Brady nor hiring Matt Patricia as an Offensive Coordinator nor hiring Joe Judge as a quarterback coach!
The Brady thing needed to happen. They were not going to do well anyway because they had salary cap constraints/trouble and wouldn't have been able to bring in any help. All keeping Brady would have done is made it so Brady wouldn't have got a 7th SB. (Hmm, that might have been better for Belichick on the PR side)
Reason for Belichick as GOAT HC: Pick Brady over Bledsoe, Reason against: Run out Brady of NE, and think he himself is HIM.
Belichick didn't get the job because during the interview he just kept saying "We're on to Cincinnati" ;)
Bill is in his 70s, may be asking for full personnel control, and comes with his old staff. What’s his record without Tom both with the Patriots and I think the Browns. I’d pass too.
I said it, I didn’t believe the interest for Bill was what so many thought. The decisions he made the past two seasons decided much of his fate.
Not surprised honestly- not because of how poorly things have gone in New England the last few years, but because he's going to insist on being more than just a head coach and nobody who currently has a head coaching position open apparently wants to give him the full organizational control he's looking for.
Nobody has had even close to the success that he has had either so this is a moot point. Other franchises are dumpster fires for a reason
@@Mydogatemycomment Other franchises didn't have Tom Brady.
@williamli6200 go troll someone else
@@Mydogatemycomment Go check Brady's 2002 season to understand what "carry the team" means.
@williamli6200 oh OK so u have nothing better to do and nobody to text. Ok I understand bye 👋
Finally an all male crew this morning
In the end, it turned out that neither Brady nor Bill were some kind of magicians. Brady couldn't win his last game with them. Last game as patriot, he throws a pick six with his team down by 1. And with Bucs he couldn't put up more then 13 points vs the rams. As for Bill, last few seasons proved he's not superhero either, his rebuilding and drafting was not that successful, the team went down under his watch, he has to take his part of the blame as well.
Still, I believe no team can stay on top for few decades, Pats would go down sooner or later, with or without Bill and Brady.
As a former Patriots fan (I am Tom Brady fan). Personally, if I was owner I would not hire him. Once I was interviewing a IV league college graduate and his demeanor was so pompous and his attitude was so warped we did not hire him. The person who had COMPLETE control of organization without good record without Tom Brady and come to an organization and he is "meager" head coach without being GM, and want to hire family members? No way.
Incredible take by RC
Bill while a very highly acclaimed winning coach may owe most of that success to Tom Brady and his Superman like QB work. One has too consider how well Coach was with Brady and then weigh how bad he seemed without. Bill may have been a Genius but it was in building around a Complete God level package like Brady. Plus the guys age and his disdain for media and aggressive front office requirements.
Washington and seattle seem to b waiting for ben johnson.
Bill could b interesting for the team that doesnt get him. 2 horrendous defenses that he could fix 😂🤣
if they haven't even requested ONE interview with him yet, then they aren't interested whatsoever........it's not like Ben Johnson is the only candidate those teams have interviewed, they've both already got Plan B ready and it's obviously not Bill
I agree with Ryan Clark on this one
I've been saying for over a week now that Belichick should join his storied colleagues like Rex Ryan, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells and RETIRE! These gentlemen knew when to call it a day. Bill--CALL IT A DAY!
It's an indication that NFL owners are more interested in being in control rather than letting the coach do his job. Bill is right. He needs total control of everything to do with the game and if he doesn't get it, he's not interested. The owners? Winning isn't that important.
Guys don’t seem to get the fact that although Russ’s Denver experience wasn’t nearly what was expected, his leaving Did expose Pete Carroll. Those 9-8 records were deceptive, and Seahawks brass knew it.
hires Matt Patricia and Joe Judge to develop young quarterbacks, still values special team gunners over explosive playmaking offensive talent, can't build a quality staff around him because he doesn't trust anyone and doesn't like his ego being challenged, shows up to work in tattered dirty sweaters covered with holes, mumbles and groans his way through interactions, doesn't relate whatsoever to his own players, is 72 and is only trying to desperately hang on to chase Shula's record then retire...................... yet people still think teams should be lining up to hire him?
Take away the name "Bill Belichick", look at how he's operated in recent years and the results it's directly led to, and NOT ONE FOOTBALL FAN ON EARTH would want that man running their team
he literally became a dinosaur right before our very eyes, it's just taking people awhile to figure it out
I absolutely cannot disagree with anything you just stated... absolute FACTS
The old grouch zaps all energy out the room
Belichick probably didn’t interview well!! Expected to be hired because of who he is!! Plus it’s too many good young coaches than to hire a 70 yr. old
No, his age and experience scare people off. I believe he would be
a helluva scouting executive
My theory is this: Bill wants to buy the groceries, do all the cooking, and present the goods. To many owners, see Jerry Jones & Mark Davis, want their hands in the pot!
Ageism? Time is not on BB side!
For all we know he probably doesn’t want to coach this year. He may want to take a year off to think about what he wants to do
Why is Tannenbaum dressed like Grimace from the old McDonald's commercials?
Why surprised? Bellichick is a good defensive coach, average coach without Brady and cheating, a horrible GM, scout, and coaching evaluator. Anytime you bring back people like Joe judge and Matt Patricia says a lot about lack of scouting. Bellichick is average and wants more power than he deserves. Atlanta and Seattle gave him two superbowls, the others are questionable. All Bellichick would do is bring Matt Patricia back in and Josh McDaniels, no one is going to give Bellichick that much power and you have been a loser since Brady left.
I am surprise they are surprised
They haven't really talked about the Titans' new head coach..
You mean the coach of mac jones didn't get hired? Im so surprised.
“What have you done recently”
It lines up for Bill to take the Cowboys job after next year. Makes the most sense.
I think ATL is still not over the 28-3 game
Unbelievable, this network needs to fire every single one that is saying Bill is too old and teams need to hire young coaches. You are advocatingr age discrimination and violating civil rights. Coaches dont need to be athletes.
There aren't 20 coaches better than Belichick. Let alone 32.
It’s because the nfl is becoming more offensive and teams want younger coaches who will adapt not old coaches who are stuck in their ways
Unless you’re Dallas or Philly apparently. 🤦🏾♂️
Wait... its 100% hes not getting a job? Like 100%???
It would totally be like Belichick to retire without even announcing it.
The lack of impartiality on these shows 😢
The teams that passed on him were smart. If he was a draft day genius Tom would have been a first round pick. He got lucky. Without Tom his win loss record is below average.
Why yall took down the first video espn??
What video?
Media types cant get past the record by the TEAM not the coach
Couple weeks ago, some national sports reporter (I forget who), was talking about how Belichick would strut around the Patriot's facilities and was not particularly respectful of team owner, Robert Kraft. If I recall correctly, it was something like, if the two passed each other in the hallways, Mr. Kraft would always have to speak first, kind of a thing. I would imagine that VERY few billionaires have the type of ego that would tolerate things like this, championships be damned. Personality MATTERS. Don't think so? Look at the 3 major North American sports........ALL who fired Hall of Fame coaches (with tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars on the line).......who were STILL winning.......due to ego. Joe Torre mid-2000's New York Yankees, Phil Jackson 1998 Chicago Bulls, Jimmy Johnson mid 90's Dallas Cowboys.
IF that is true (and I absolutely believe that it is)........add to Belichick's lack of success with the Browns, post Tom Brady lack of success, poor record as a GM the last 5 years, his poor coaching tree, his age, the amount of control he is purported to want, AND being a defensive minded coach, in an offensive league.........taking all these factors into account, I am NOT surprised that no halfway decent teams are clamoring to hire him. He's a potential headache AND a short-term solution.
I would think any teams who have a heritage of winning, want an offensive minded, rising star head coach, who is in his late 30's to early 50's, and who has no immediate aspirations to make personnel decisions.
Could it possibly be he wants to remain GM and Coach? No one in their right mind is hiring him as a GM.
Weren’t the Jets supposed to move on from Saleh?
The Cowboys were the right job for Belichek but Jerry Jones effed it up
I have a bad feeling about this. I think the 'football gods' might wait Bill out so he doesn't surpass Shula. This is why it was so imperative that he remain the coach of the Patriots for another 2-3 seasons, even if it meant relinquishing gm duties.
Man, there's something special about Shula! 😄NO ONE has caught him with the '72 perfect season (Bill's Patriots came the closest when they went 18-1 several yrs ago). It looks like his total wins record may be safe, as well. Bill is only like 14 games back, but if he sits out this year, depending on where he goes next year (if it's a rebuild) that may take 3 seasons. That's 4 yrs for a 72 year old coach. It may be out of reach, as crazy as that sounds now.
It’s the NFL getting back at him for refusing to bend the knee to racist policies like DEI and ESG. They want to punish him
Shula was in a different era it was good but he had the Greatest QB of the 80s 90s and couldn't get another that West Coast offense revolutionized the game the Defensive schemes didn't really change much but evolved to adjust to the new looks and creativeness some plays were refined but 2 minute offense also was new the Run n Shoot but Westcoast still dominant if it's ran right but not every QB can run it. Now what?😅
Shula is 2-4 in Superbowls, and a Playoff Choker. Funny how Miami has NOT won a Superbowl since the NFL expanded beyond 17 Games.
… shouldn‘t it be obvious? Everyone has been watching Belichick after Brady. And what they have seen is that he couldn‘t do it with Cam Newton. That even his defense was not first in the league. And that he wrecked a rookie QT who might not have been a Mahomes or Allen but who was absolutely solid. He might be Bill Belichick. He might have all that playoff experience. But risk hiring a head coach who saw no issue in adding two more defense oriented people to his coaching staff ON OFFENSE when offense was already the biggest weakness? You‘d be nuts to trust that guy with your team…
When are folks going to admit that the game has passed Belichick by like the Pharcyde?
It’s just the way our society is. This generation doesn’t want a Bill Belichick. They want a players coach but more often than not those coaches don’t win lol
i do think it was more Brady than Bill and have always thought that way, but it's insane how much recency bias is affecting Bill. Being dominant for 20 years and not getting a chance at a fresh start is crazy to me.
Did you not see his last 4 seasons
I think what people are missing is that Belichek doesn't want any job. I think he wants the right job
no i think you're still missing the obvious fact that nobody is interested in an antiquated dinosaur who literally just had 4 years to rebuild his own team fully in his own image and FAILED F-*-*ING MISERABLY AT IT
there is no "right job" in the modern NFL for a guy who still values special teams over offense, there is no "right job" in the modern NFL for a 72 yr old dictator who can't work well with others and isn't open to adapting his methods........... how do people not get this lol he has a great name and a great resume, but in 2024 and beyond HE LITERALLY SUCKS AS A HC
No! What have ole' Bill done without Brady?? Brady we know he's a GOAT!
He's a 72 year old control freak that doesn't get the most out of his QBs (including Brady) in a league where its almost a requirement for coaches to get the most out of QBs. One of the only teams that I thought was a good fit was the Cowboys with an established QB but that option is off the table.
Not surprised, great coach and terrible GM. He can't be allowed to draft.
Considering some coaches that get hired its a little ridiculous nobody is even talking to the guy
Agreed. Complete bs. The most qualified can't get hired yet we have the rooney rule. A joke.
I don’t know why belichick went to that falcons interview in the first place Atlanta is gonna suck for the next 20 years anyway
Roflmao the league tried to sweep spygate under the rug and the simple fact is that no other owner was to taint their organization with the Greatest cheater in nfl history
Everyone keeps listing Bills accolades like we don't know them. But they fail to realise that those very accolades are the reason no one is hiring him. First of all every team is asking themselves, "Is Bill still hungry enough to fight for a championship". After all he has eight already!! Like really, do y'all think he's really gonna be that invested or hurt if he doesn't win one more? Not really. It's pay day and vacay time for Bill. And secondly, every coach has his prime. And it's pretty clear Bill is past his. Guys had had ample time to study his antics, style, plays, etc. He's just not that effective anymore. He's still a great coach no doubt. The greatest, yes no doubt. But he's past it. It's time. It's time for him to take on a GM role.
After Sunday if Baltimore shuts down Pat/Andy..... Mike Macdonald is #1 to DC and I'll be all in
Bill probably wanted full control of the team and the owner didn’t want that
Bill returns to New York as DC and take the giants to the superbowl once again 💀🔥
No one believe he had magic cutlure, no one believe he had magic system, no one believe there was a Patriots way, only Brady's way.
So how on earth was he the GOAT coach?
He was the best (with Brady in the team), but in a different era. On the current one he would be my last choice
Bill was dumb to think that Atlanta was going to hire him. They got the last laugh!
If Seahawks win bill looks dense not calling time outs with over a min. Than vs the eagles less than a min he does a reverse on the kickoff pinning brady back at the 5. Brady gets them to the 50 with little time and a chance to win.
Always count on Bart Scott to run it down like it is.
Scott is a fool. He gave Belichick 90% of the credit for NE's Dynasty even after Superbowl 55; when Tom won with Tampa. He still pushed that "System-QB" B***S***!!
@@joeruiz4010 You are 100% correct. I should have said "For once Bart Scott got it right." Hey even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion. lol
@@bill2953 Even a busted clock is right twice a day.
@@joeruiz4010 Twice a day is more than those so-clled experts do.. lol
Without TB-12 bb is a sub 500head coach !