@@nicko4071 "They have a climate agenda to focus on." What part of having more recent major floods is an agenda? Or do you mean the agenda of denying what we are seeing right in front of us?
@@WinthropWarriors The dam has not generated power since the flood in 2019 due to some of the generating equipment being damaged. The substation was only there to distribute power to the homes in the area of the dam and to distribute power to Rapidan and the surrounding homes. The dam has not failed in any way. The area that failed was the west side riverbank, which has been eroded creating a bypass. The dam is also not holding back any water. Any water that is flowing to the dam, is flowing through and around it.
Didn't we learn anything from the collapse of the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis in 2007? We've had 17 years to ensure all bridges and dams are in good standing. Why do we wait until our infrastructure receives a failing grade before work is done to repair it? 🤔
Speaking as a civil engineer, I expect the Rapidan Dam will survive another 100 years as a pier if the river is left alone. Let's celebrate that Minnesota has a new waterfall!
It's not called "once in a century". The flood event is referred to as a 100-year flood, which statistically means that in ANY given year, there is a 1/100 chance of occurrence. And guess what happens the next year...there is still a 1/100 chance. Which is why there has been a strong push to do away with the popular x-year nomenclature. It is misleading, resulting in inaccurate and uninformed comments like yours. It's not your fault and that is not a personal jab. It's the system that sucks.
@@michaelporter8242 They're used successfully on an ongoing basis by NOAA and their forecasts are good. Where are you getting your forecasts from? If it's from any commercial source stop using it.
Outlet holes for release of excess water were clogged with massive trunks from trees that fell in upstream as river banks gave way with the extreme flow. you can see them in the videos. They were waiting for a specialized piece of equipment that could remove the trees- but it was 5 hours away, too late.
@@emmettturner9452all you have to do is Google it: The bill passed the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives but struggled to gain the support of Democrats Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona in the evenly divided Senate, with unified Republican opposition. Manchin and Sinema negotiated the reduction of Build Back Better Act's size, scope, and cost significantly with Biden and Democratic congressional leaders, but Manchin, widely viewed as the key swing vote needed to pass the bill in the Senate, ultimately rejected it over the procedural tactics used.[6]
People don't want to spend tax dollars on bridges, dams, roads etc, until it's absolutely needed. Just has the attitude of nothing important, seems to be working just fine.
did he just say a man died from falling off scaffolding and then just days after he died he carved his name into the bedrock sandstone almost 87 feet below? asking for a friend
Well at least we spent all of that money on Feeding our Future and the Green Line and promoting downtown nightlife instead of maintaining our bridges and dams.
This is a sign of societal decay coupled with mother nature and age. Politicians too busy money grabbin to care about infrastructure or safety of the community
@@oleonard7319 The gates were working properly. They were clogged by debris swept down river by historic storms and flood well upriver, with it happening in a matter of a few hours, faster than they could obtain the specialized equipment needed.
THE DAM HAS NOT FAILED!!! The land on the west side of the dam is what failed. The dam had an overall inspection done in May of this year and was found to be in good condition(not at risk of any type of failure). The river is freely flowing through/around the dam. Meaning the dam is not holding any water flow back. IF the dam were to actually fail, there would be a very minimal rise in water levels. Officials stated this morning at a 9am press conference that water levels within 2 miles downstream of the dam would only rise a maximum of 2ft. Further downstream in the Mankato area(10 miles downstream of the dam) water levels would only rise a couple inches. People need to stop spreading false information, which is causing people to panic when it is not necessary.
Why didn't MN destroy the dam after the water started to breach the dam? 🤔 That would have saved a ton of erosion and maybe their house. This could be a huge lawsuit for the state of MN
I wonder when the news is going to start looking into the condition our infrastructure and why our govt is not using our tax money to maintain our infrastructure.
@@RichardQuaid No, weird you went there but not surprising. The dam has seen higher flows before, not hard to figure out. This time too much debris collected at the dam and caused it to run around. But keep getting political and tearing apart the country... narratives wont help anything and believing everything your TV tells you is a bad idea.
It should be known that the dam pressure will lower when emergency spillway is compromised and river will cut new river bottom around the dam using old spillway as a guide.
@@blahblah5603 I get it fully, but from a different perspective than yourself. it's absolutely necessary for Ukraine to win this war. That's why dozens of other countries besides America are all contributing to the effort. You do realize it isn't just us, right? This is international in scope. You are the one who doesn't get that aspect.
And this is the result of man trying the control nature and then blaming it on the failing of a dam for the results. If the Dam had never ben constructed or the structure was removed when they determined that the structure was in poor this story would be completely different. Part of this distraction is due to the fact that the turbulent nature of the water exiting the river at a right angle directing it at the home that was situated on the bank. If the dam didn't exist then the river would have functioned as a river that has seen many of these flood events in its past that carved this natural path. This is 100 percent man made and would have been 100 percent preventable had the structure never been there.
I don't see dam failure. There was no emergency spillway to handle high flow events so the river created one. Also, two of the gates were cemented shut and the others were partially blocked by debris. Was the city/county/state out there removing debris? No. Why were two gates permanently closed? A gov official made that decision. The root cause of this incident is poor infrastructure management of the dam.
Imagine what could happen if we kept our tax follars at home.... Badly aging infrastructure could actually be fixed with plenty to spare. Our communities, buildings etc could be fixed. That cant happen when we bleed money out in other countries.
Amazing it was at high risk and nobody was repairing it WTF. Well, I guess you guys can pay for the new house and all the properties have been lost because of your negligence.
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The dam didn't give way.... it was the banks of the river that gave way... Are these inspectors blind?
Dag nab it
Soil gets saturated with water, increase flow, amount and force, just loosens 'all' with time. (114 years held well)
They have a climate agenda to focus on.
@@nicko4071 "They have a climate agenda to focus on." What part of having more recent major floods is an agenda? Or do you mean the agenda of denying what we are seeing right in front of us?
The dam actually looks like it is holding up well , it's the land surrounding the dam.
Put on you glasses -- the generators are destroyed!
@@WinthropWarriors is the dam still standing??..thought so
@@WinthropWarriors It hasn't generated power for years.
The dam has not failed, it has not suffered a partial failure. It got clogged by debris and the water went around the dam.
It has failed it's purpose -- to generate power. If that's not a failure, then what is?
@@WinthropWarriors only because the sub station got washed away.
@@WinthropWarriors I don't think you get it. The main purpose of a damn is to control the flow of water. It generated power at a time.
@@Big-lron That is true. Also, it hadn't been generating power for a while anyhow. It's mostly a damn dam.
@@WinthropWarriors The dam has not generated power since the flood in 2019 due to some of the generating equipment being damaged. The substation was only there to distribute power to the homes in the area of the dam and to distribute power to Rapidan and the surrounding homes. The dam has not failed in any way. The area that failed was the west side riverbank, which has been eroded creating a bypass. The dam is also not holding back any water. Any water that is flowing to the dam, is flowing through and around it.
Didn't we learn anything from the collapse of the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis in 2007? We've had 17 years to ensure all bridges and dams are in good standing. Why do we wait until our infrastructure receives a failing grade before work is done to repair it? 🤔
I heard how old this dam was the other day. Its just really dam old. The years have been dam good on the dam history.
It's a dam fine dam.
@@conorkennedy3304I'm dam sure you are right.
Speaking as a civil engineer, I expect the Rapidan Dam will survive another 100 years as a pier if the river is left alone. Let's celebrate that Minnesota has a new waterfall!
Who ever called any storm a once-in-a-centery? There are only records going back 150 years. They show 5 storms with the same or more rain.
It's statistical modeling.
It's not called "once in a century". The flood event is referred to as a 100-year flood, which statistically means that in ANY given year, there is a 1/100 chance of occurrence. And guess what happens the next year...there is still a 1/100 chance. Which is why there has been a strong push to do away with the popular x-year nomenclature. It is misleading, resulting in inaccurate and uninformed comments like yours. It's not your fault and that is not a personal jab. It's the system that sucks.
@@joewoodchuck3824 Those models are garbage.
@@michaelporter8242 They're used successfully on an ongoing basis by NOAA and their forecasts are good. Where are you getting your forecasts from? If it's from any commercial source stop using it.
@@michaelporter8242 Where are you getting your weather forecasts? If it's any commercial source you're getting it from the wrong place.
What happened to all that “Build Back Better!” money?
Over seas
It's in Ukraine and given to illegals
In the politicians pockets
They need to stop being ignorant about the debris pileup diverting the water around the dam.
Note the dam hasn’t failed. It’s gates were log jammed.
Apparently no emergency spillway is the issue. But the dam and it’s abutments are intact
The Dam was fine.
Outlet holes for release of excess water were clogged with massive trunks from trees that fell in upstream as river banks gave way with the extreme flow. you can see them in the videos. They were waiting for a specialized piece of equipment that could remove the trees- but it was 5 hours away, too late.
When was the last time we had a hundred year flood?
The inspectors need to be fired, they never examined the land around the dam
Let’s be honest this damn was doing just fine and had they done their upkeep to keep the logs out of the water it would still be fine
Yep, it's doing a fine job of generating power, amright?
Watch your mouth 😂
"keep the logs out of the water it would still be fine" The logs piled up by a 100 year flood? Are those the ones you mean?
Good thing the government just passed the infrastructure bill.......😂
Build Back Better! Where’d it go?!
@@finger-boardBlack Rock. Lockheed Martin.
@@emmettturner9452all you have to do is Google it:
The bill passed the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives but struggled to gain the support of Democrats Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona in the evenly divided Senate, with unified Republican opposition. Manchin and Sinema negotiated the reduction of Build Back Better Act's size, scope, and cost significantly with Biden and Democratic congressional leaders, but Manchin, widely viewed as the key swing vote needed to pass the bill in the Senate, ultimately rejected it over the procedural tactics used.[6]
Most of that money went to Ukraine/Israel
People don't want to spend tax dollars on bridges, dams, roads etc, until it's absolutely needed. Just has the attitude of nothing important, seems to be working just fine.
That's called living in denial. You're absolutely correct.
did he just say a man died from falling off scaffolding and then just days after he died he carved his name into the bedrock sandstone almost 87 feet below? asking for a friend
They said he died just days after carving his name.
Who ever mix that concrete did a good job I heard they built it in 1908 and it's hollow it's not a solid danm
It is hollow, we would walk and play in it
Maybe install permanent cranes to remove debris from clogging the water paths
The whole state is falling apart now. I think we can take 15k more migrants tho feed them. House them. Medicate them. Educate them..
We can easily take them in Cleveland Ohio with a plan. We need workers. 30% of the houses are empty with nothing wrong with them.
Out of your check I hope. Not mine. I came legally @@snowmiaow
You act like people who immigrated here don't pay taxes lmfao
@@RobertCWarwick Good for you. Not sure what your complaint is, maybe repeating something from the radio? Immigrants benefit us.
It's great that butt plug Pete's on the job and ready to render aid. Good luck Minnesota.
Well at least we spent all of that money on Feeding our Future and the Green Line and promoting downtown nightlife instead of maintaining our bridges and dams.
Infrastructure, screw it, right? Or at least that's what the Republicans have been telling us for the last 50 years.
This is a sign of societal decay coupled with mother nature and age. Politicians too busy money grabbin to care about infrastructure or safety of the community
The dam has been in poor condition since 1972
The condition of the dam had nothing to due with this event
@@virgilhilts3924 if the gates were working. That would have happened
@@oleonard7319
The gates were working properly.
They were clogged by debris swept down river by historic storms and flood well upriver, with it happening in a matter of a few hours, faster than they could obtain the specialized equipment needed.
Glad you were able to get the message into the story.
These Dams wouldn't be in disrepair and aging.Had we spent the money properly and not sent billions to other countries
REMAIN CALM!!!! JOE BIDEN DOESN'T CARE!
Who do you think just put billions into the next 10 years for infrastructure? You're an idiot.
The house did fall into the river.
Dam, that's crazy.
Remove it. It's only holding silt, not water.
that's the problem.
THE DAM HAS NOT FAILED!!! The land on the west side of the dam is what failed. The dam had an overall inspection done in May of this year and was found to be in good condition(not at risk of any type of failure). The river is freely flowing through/around the dam. Meaning the dam is not holding any water flow back. IF the dam were to actually fail, there would be a very minimal rise in water levels. Officials stated this morning at a 9am press conference that water levels within 2 miles downstream of the dam would only rise a maximum of 2ft. Further downstream in the Mankato area(10 miles downstream of the dam) water levels would only rise a couple inches. People need to stop spreading false information, which is causing people to panic when it is not necessary.
Government employees living large lifestyles off of the taxpayers.
The Dam stood strong and probably saved many from complete devastation,bad reporting and bad story! Do better next time Fox 9
More money should have been put on infrastructure in this country rather than accommodation to illegal immigrants checking into hotels.
Rigbt on!!
Trump never put a dime towards infrastructure, too busy giving tax breaks to wealthy asshpolls, (paybacks for campaign donation).
Why didn't MN destroy the dam after the water started to breach the dam? 🤔
That would have saved a ton of erosion and maybe their house. This could be a huge lawsuit for the state of MN
So he fell off the scaffolding and died but “days after” he carved his name in the bottom of the dam below!
That’s what you said!
The more I hear about this dam, the more I hear piss poor excuses for not maintaining the dam, or removing it.. sounds like a lawsuit in the works
I wonder when the news is going to start looking into the condition our infrastructure and why our govt is not using our tax money to maintain our infrastructure.
We should just blame everything on climate change.. that way, nobody will be blamed or held responsible for not doing their job.. problem solved 😂
Your $1.7 billion "Infastrucure Bill" at work.
So blame climate change? 😆 🤣 😂 😹 Wow!
Don't tell me, a trumplican!
I don't believe science, I believe a pathological liar!
@@RichardQuaid No, weird you went there but not surprising. The dam has seen higher flows before, not hard to figure out. This time too much debris collected at the dam and caused it to run around. But keep getting political and tearing apart the country... narratives wont help anything and believing everything your TV tells you is a bad idea.
No such thing as climate change. All a hoax for $$$. The gov't is altering weather. Y'all find out soon enough.
It should be known that the dam pressure will lower when emergency spillway is compromised and river will cut new river bottom around the dam using old spillway as a guide.
It never had a spillway in the first place.
Lets send more money to Ukraine.
We're actually sending warehoused equipment and supplies much more so than cash. That stuff was bought and paid for long ago.
@@joewoodchuck3824Bought and paid for by tax payers.
@@blahblah5603 Yes, but not of current expenditures and taxpayer burden.
@@joewoodchuck3824 Man you don't get it do you.. Go waste someone else's time
@@blahblah5603 I get it fully, but from a different perspective than yourself. it's absolutely necessary for Ukraine to win this war. That's why dozens of other countries besides America are all contributing to the effort. You do realize it isn't just us, right? This is international in scope. You are the one who doesn't get that aspect.
Poor Kim Reynolds
Thanks, Biden, for sending all of our infrastructure money to Ukraine..
once again.. Great Job! 👍
$1.7 Trillion dollars. My mistake..
But we built it back better, common man
Ya don't say....
He carved his name after he died!? 😮
They blame everything on 'climate change'.
I wouldn't be ni where near it the ground around it is not stable at all wow some people
And this is the result of man trying the control nature and then blaming it on the failing of a dam for the results. If the Dam had never ben constructed or the structure was removed when they determined that the structure was in poor this story would be completely different. Part of this distraction is due to the fact that the turbulent nature of the water exiting the river at a right angle directing it at the home that was situated on the bank. If the dam didn't exist then the river would have functioned as a river that has seen many of these flood events in its past that carved this natural path. This is 100 percent man made and would have been 100 percent preventable had the structure never been there.
Thank god for Joe Biden to get the biggest bill passed to fix these dams and roads .Trump ha😂d four years and did nothing.
Poor condition? It's on life support right now, it's been in poor condition 5years ago.
Good thing Donnie was having Infrastructure Day. And his new healthcare plan makes all those in Congress jealous. They only get the ACA for free.
I don't see dam failure. There was no emergency spillway to handle high flow events so the river created one. Also, two of the gates were cemented shut and the others were partially blocked by debris. Was the city/county/state out there removing debris? No. Why were two gates permanently closed? A gov official made that decision. The root cause of this incident is poor infrastructure management of the dam.
Good riddance to the Rapidan Dam. Now Blue Earth county has a new pier.
They need to tare it down and get rid of it at this point. Would be nice if federal funding covers alot of the cost to do so
Imagine what could happen if we kept our tax follars at home.... Badly aging infrastructure could actually be fixed with plenty to spare. Our communities, buildings etc could be fixed. That cant happen when we bleed money out in other countries.
Amazing it was at high risk and nobody was repairing it WTF. Well, I guess you guys can pay for the new house and all the properties have been lost because of your negligence.
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