CLASS 816 TRAINING AT PINEY POINT | PAUL HALL CENTER | PHASE 1 | SIU UNLICENSED APPRENTICE PROGRAM
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In 2016 went to Piney Point Maryland to start my training to become a Merchant Mariner. We were at the Paul Hall center for over 5 months learning basic ship operations, fire fighting, first aid and life boat. Was not the easiest thing in the world to go through but support from our classmates got us by. Class 816 holds a special place in my heart.
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I was in class 665, now I’m a tug boat captain in Alaska. SIU changed my life.
How did you get into the SIU is there a waiting time to join or you can get in right away? I’m looking to join I just turned 18
@@ohyeahyeah5794 are you in Alaska? If so there is a scholarship program that will send you for free, if not, no big deal they have a class starting every month, not sure on a waiting time to get in but I highly recommend the SIU, they will allow you to get in the door of the maritime industry and you can figure out what direction you wanna go, plus it’s good money and they pay you to travel the world! As a young person you can’t beat it, my first ship I worked on, I walked off with 20k cash in my pocket. I bought my first house with that money. If your considering it, I say do it! Good luck on whatever you decide and be safe!
Justin-
@@ohyeahyeah5794 you apply then your closest union hall will contact you for a test. It’s math and reading
@@justinsalaskanadventures i also wanna go to SIU how long should i expect to go from OS to captain and if i get a choice id like to work on cargo ships
@@Nero691 well it comes down to how much time you wanna work, and what license you’d like to acquire. Unfortunately there are a 100 different ways to obtain one license but the bottom line it seadays and tonnage of ship your sailing on to move up the ladder. Siu get you on those unlimited tonnage ships that will help you get a big license much faster than a smaller boats. Start with your AB ticket and start learning. Ultimately I’d say 4 years to captain of you sail a lot and test as soon as you qualify. But like I said there is no straight answer to each individual license
I have absolutely no interest in being a sailor or even being on a ship, yet I find your experience fascinating. It’s a snapshot into things I would not know anything about if not for your vlog.
My mom is a merchant mariner, and I decided I wanted to do it as well. I was just accepted into the program at Piney Point. Just gotta do my physical and wait for a class to open up between August and October. I'm really excited. I went in 2019, but because of my weight I couldn't finish. I was told to get healthy--so in other words lose weight--and go back. I mopped around for a bit, then Covid happened. I've lost 80 lbs since November, and still losing and am really looking forward to this. Thanks for the video.
What couldn’t you pass?
that’s awesome and congrats on the weight loss. i wanna go to piney point too but i’d want to lose at least 30-40lb… half of me also wants to just get my twic an mmc to start asap at the bottom 😂
@@jeanclaude1916 You need your twic to enter the program and also the money to afford the courses to get your beginner certifications
How physical is it
God bless the SIU and the union brothers and sisters. My son is on a great career trajectory because of the Union.
I was in class 170. The year 1975. Your training was better. This brings back memories, I just subscribed, your videos are very professional, your narration is excellent.
Wow, no idea the training was like a military operation! So pleased for you all to pass, great work and great video!
Not like the Marine Corps though.
@@Atlas2040 Spoken in ignorance. US Merchant Mariners are some of the most highly trained and certified people on the planet.
@@gweminence1 Not in ignorance. Merchant Marines are highly trained in mental preparation. But 80% of those in this video would not make it through Marine boot camp.
@@CarWizard No need to tear people down, especially when you don't know them. As a former apprentice at Piney Point and a former U.S. Army soldier I can tell you that many of the people there are veterans. Also, it isn't meant to be USMC boot camp, it is a totally different job/function.
@@CarWizardhey probably would lmfao. I would bet every cent I have that those guys are in better shape both mentally and physically than the average 18 year old pussy that shows up to marine boot camp.
Dude - I had no idea that Merchant Mariners went through so much training. I find that reassuring at a lot of levels. Way to go to you and anyone else that gets through it and actually goes on to do the work. 👏
Yeah I am surprised as well, figured a more OJT training style, this is boot camp and tech school along with the military structure. Not a bad thing by no means though, (I am 17yr's Air Force still active). Awesome videos! I have enjoyed learning so much about this type of career from this channel.
@@brandonbascue7185do you feel that it is as physical as your Air Force training
My Grandfather was a Merchant Sailor, out of Dublin, before and during WWII. He became a radio operator. After the war he became an air traffic controller, but being a sailor was always his first love. I wonder how different the training was when he first went to sea at 17 (1935)?
@thehangmansdaughter1120 my uncle was the same - merchante sailor out of Dublin after the way, became a radio officer
Really love these videos you’ve got excellent film making talent and you’re showing me a whole new world that I never would’ve known, thank you and keep them coming !
Watching this for like the 20th time. I have 5 days before I’m heading out there to start the program. Doing all I can to be mentally prepared. Both nervous and excited.
You have no idea what these videos have meant to me, Joe. They were a big part of helping me decide to take this next step in my life. And it’s been one of the best tools to prepare myself for what to expect. I truly thank you for your hard work on making all your videos. Maybe one day I’ll see you out on the high seas!
Can I ask you something ? How much does it cost to enroll ? How long is the training ?
@@seandonh4536 all told, I’ve probably spent over a grand on everything to get here. I’m two weeks in. It’s no walk in the park, but it all feels worth it.
Look at baum
its free. only costs are uniform@@seandonh4536
Hey how’s everything going?
Fantastic video, I always wondered and you made it come true. Love your videos
Very neat video. Merchant marines were the unsung heroes of WW2.
Class 619 here, Love the videos. Thanks so much for the memories they brought back. Best of luck.
Im glad to have been the the person to welcome you guys to the pen and have been y’all’s temporary Bosun! Seeing this video brought many wonderful memories about my time in PP! Class 816 I’ll never forget y’all.. great fucking video joe! Hope all is well with you brotha.
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Class 107 here! Shipped out after graduating, ending up on an East Coast, Sealand, container ship. Left the industry after that first ship. Still have to say, glad I tried it.
Great vlog as always! I guess this is how the saying I will teach you the ropes comes from. Good job man!
Class 652, here.
Thanks for your videos. Bringing back some memories.
I spent most of my time on the Great Lakes.
Joe does a great job with his videos, no crap, just good stuff.
The best one of these piney point videos out right now. Thanks Joe!
Aww man, thanks for the kinda words. Tried to capture my experience the best way I could
Thank you for the video Joe it is great to see your journey. Looking forward to phase 2.
thanks! phase 2 should be out soon!
People do not hear in history that the Merchant Marines took heavy losses during WW2 keeping the lifelines going. I had no clue that they train very much like the military does-especially in how right from the get go they get you used to never having enough sleep and what I hated the most-KP or mess duty which meant even less sleep. It's good seeing how they build teamwork and a sense of comradery that one rarely sees in the civilian world.
This was a really nice video to watch. I learned several things. It reminded me of Basic Training. I went through U.S. Air Force (USAF) Basic Training in Feb-Mar 1982 and then on to Technical School Training. Both of these two trainings were back-to-back for a total of 5 months of intense training. Then, it was on to my first assignment at Dyess AFB located near Abilene Texas. I really did respect the Air Force and stayed a total of 20 years on Active Duty and Retired 1 March 2002. I've now been retired 20 years. Sitting here now at 61 years old, choosing a career with the USAF was one of the best decisions I ever made for my future. It was a tough life, there were easier ways to make a living, but I enjoyed the structure.
What other jobs were you interested that you felt would have been easier
It was a nice and informational video. I really enjoyed watching it. Thank you. Greetings from Arizona.
I'm starting Phase I in two weeks, feeling nervous but determined. Thanks for making this great video!
yeah you fucked up lol im class 857, that place sucks ass lmaoooooooooooooo have fun
Good luck!! You'll do great!
How to get in this program
Did you have to cut your hair
Hope your smashing it.
Glad y'all all passed . I am going to the SIU hall here in Houston Texas tomorrow to get started with my application
I check in on November 17th!!!🦋🚢 Going for deck department.
Thanks again for all of your insight!
Class 893. Without these videos I don’t know where I would be. Certainly haven’t gotten the full experience yet, but definitely glad I joined SIU
You did a great job putting this video together Joe and we thank you
Thanks Bart! Class 816 will always have a special place in my heart. Glad you guys enjoyed it, you're a good guy for a Giants fan lol
@@JoeFranta Good guy die hard big blue Giants fan yes I am.
Great video! Learned a lot and gained some insight on what phase 1 is like 😃
Man I’m so fortunate to be class 350 in ‘81. Couldn’t pass the current regime at 17 years of age. Good job.
Joe, I really like your videos because they`re put together so well and you`re just a down-to-earth guy narrating his story. I used to work for a cruise line for 14 years on the hotel side, so no deck or engine duties, but it doesn`t matter because we are mariners. Well, truth be told, it`s been a few year since I walked down the gangway, but I am in touch almost every day with crew I worked with, almost every freaking day, the bonds are that tight. Be safe, smooth sailing.
Yes brother, I always wanted to try working for a cruise ship, seems like so much fun. Thanks for watching and all your kind words, means a lot man.
Lol, loved the marching... brought back lots of memories from my Army days :) . Great video.
nothing like a strong Cadence to get ya going in the morning
I am surprised at the amount of training and the resemblances to the U.S. Navy. There are a lot of interesting opportunities out there that most Americans are not aware of.
Did you do the navy
Excellent video, this brought back a lot of memories, I was in class 824 🫡⚓️🛳🚢
Glad you enjoyed it!
Reminded me a little of Navy Boot Camp only with less abuse. Thank you for the videos, I miss my days at sea.
I should be out there December! I'm so ready. And thank you for your detailed insight
You are so welcome!
What an intense video! It was hard but respectful.
You did a great job on that video. I wish I would have known something like this when I was younger. I hope that young people today take advantage of some thing like this.
There is no age limit. Older people are making this their career after retirement. I hear it’s people 80yrs old joining
I love the vids keep them coming. I enjoy the boat vlogs the best
Glad you like them!
Really interesting to know about your training and glad you all passed out at the same time 👍
Thanks Joe. really like the videos
Class 600 here! Love your videos man. Brings me back...over 20 years ago and this brings back so many memories. Good stuff
Glad you enjoyed it
What are the educational requirement etc. to attend or be accepted here
Ah man, the nostalgia... This reminds me of when I went through basic training for the Air Force. Y'all got it easy... and that's coming from an Air Force dude, haha! But still, all the principles are there, and all the emotions involved... Looks likes a blast Joe, you'll never forget it.
Yalls basic was just like the one in this video 😂
But without the water.
I'm glad they toned it down. It was hell when I went through in 97. Seems like a funner experience now.
When I was at Cape May marlinspike seamanship was my favorite. Then off to Kodiak I went.
Class 737 here, this is the best video ive seen on the program
This is totally cool. I had no idea this was available for merchant marines. I wish I could do this. I've seen my fair share of galleys, but that was a monster. Even in boot camp, I was sent to the mess to help out and they had nothing compared to what your academy has.
abundant amazing footage--very surprised you were able to make all if it and upload, etc. but you remain an enigma--bud driver, rv, mm, then what? seems very intense!
Hey Joe, My memories go back to Piney Point Class 288. There were a lot more trainees back then. I was happy to see the Harry Lunenburg School of Seamanship was looking good after all these years! I shipped out of the SIU hall in Brooklyn for four years. I was fortunate to be aware at the time but these were going to be the best times of my life. So I made the most of it. Too bad the mobile phone hadn’t been invented otherwise like you I might have been able to share some of it on TH-cam. But then again, maybe it’s just as well. Hang in there brother!
Cheers Frank! class 288, thats wild. Glad you made the most of sailing. Always nice to hear guys living there best life. thanks for watching brother .
Class 395 here - first shipped out and flew to Japan as a B Book on an LNG tanker shuttling gas from Indonesia back up to different ports in Japan. Great memories!!
Awesome footage I can’t imagine how hard it was to get all that.
This was great man. All very well said and put together, it brought me back to all the same feels of being there. I wish I would’ve recorded while in class but I’m glad I didn’t because i couldn’t compete with this video. 👏 🙌 👏
Hey man! Glad you liked it and thanks for the kind words,have a video for each phase comping out, you're in the phase 3 video, I'll be sure to like your channel to the video!
Damn Joe, that was a great video!
Reminds me of a lower level Navy boot camp that I went through when I was 18. Still pretty interesting
I went through with class 189 in 1975/76. It is a lot more sophisticated and modern now. Except for the marching that is. Some things never change. Good videos
Hey Ross! Also class 189. Sailed with SIU until 87 then joined AMO. Retired last year, last job was CE on the Cape Washington. Augie is still going strong. Class 189!!!! Great videos! Sure has changed a lot over the years.
@@TimStagg Hey Tim, Of course I remember you well. It was me who helped blow out your knee playing soccer. Still feel bad about that. Auggie did tell me that you were sailing as CE. Nice to hear that you went so far. I sailed for ten years and got my Third Mate's license but got tired of the changes in the industry and got out. Been selling real estate in MD ever since. Good to hear from you.
lol This is great. I grew up at the school. its nice to see not a lot has changed.
I hope the students in the Enterprise HS school maritime program watch this. Yes we have a prep program for maritime work. There is also a community college program for tug and barge work.
Class of 504 fall of 1992. We only spent 3 to 4 months there then and were put on our first ship. Then our next job as an Ordinary was on us. At that time they were fading out wipers and oilers and using DEU’s and you only got 50-50 sea time.
Well put together videos. Like your style and nice voice.
Great series of videos
So informative interesting and well done and edited
Bravo
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’ll be attending in November!
Thank you so much for showing and telling bro
Sooo many memories at piney point! The NCL trainees used to stay on the other side til they moved to Hawaii. Had a gf there near the pool that was ncl.
The firefighting training reminds me of my Fire 1 classes. Good times.
I'm from Class 622 and recognize quite a bit of your footage. I know you're sailing as an AB now, congratulations! Personally I made my way up, got my license in 2008 and have been sailing as Captain for the past 3 years. Your page is great information for new sailors.
Thank you so much, I'll be getting my 1080 days soon enough, looking forward to getting my 3rds as well
@@JoeFranta I think my picture is still on the wall in the lobby. lol
Hi Joe! Just found your channel as I watch mostly great lakes but caught a link to you. First, simply, fantastic adventures n great insight to life aboard ship presented by your charming no bullshit honest n calming personality imho. Am I reading this right that you have 63 subscribers? That’s 63,000 subs right? At least I hope so for all your efforts and spectacular footage. Last q and I’ll be quiet for a bit: can I ask how old the eldest cadet was during your maritime academy? I’m ask’n for a friend? Smile.
Hey Pat, thanks for the kind words, glad you're enjoying the content. We had a gentlemen who was in his late 50s, as long as you can pass the CG physical you can join. No age limit
Hey joe, I went to Piney Point in 2006 before I went and worked on a cruise ship in hawaii. I don't know about when you went but they had some corn fields nearby and we all dreamed of eating that corn the whole time we were there. But they never had corn on the damn menu. We could not leave the campus and it was a pizza joint right across the street from the entrance and all we could smell was that damn pizza the whole time we were there.
There’s a whole bar we fantasize about going to across the street 😂😂😂
I worked with Sam on the pride of America years ago.
Wow
Small world
When we were on galley phase the guys ahead of us would steal bottles of dish soap and fill up their cups with it before they put their tray through the window. All the sudden the dragon (what we called the dishwasher) would explode into suds. All hell would break loose.
🗽👍⚓i spent 30 years in the M/M and went too the Paul hall ctr to upgrade several times.Made some good💰💰💰💰traveled the world over.Made many,many trips too Japan.If you love too travel and make good💰this might be your ticket.
What up my brother love the video Class #633 myself....
45 years at sea and loved the video.
cheers to 45 years! glad you're enjoying the content
@@JoeFranta Hope you go on and get your tickets…easy once you put your mind to it.
Thanks for sharing this! This answers a lot of questions I had about the program. Did you get to return home at all in between phases? Looking forward to the next videos.
Went home after Phase 2 for acouple months, then again after phase 3 for only a month.
@@JoeFrantawas it mandatory to go on break
I was in class 659. Miss Piney Point. I am currently still sailing as 2nd Mate on an oil tanker
Coming from a family of firefighters ,I found this interesting!
I was in class #640 March 2002. Been sailing now with S.I.U. for a couple of years now and I love it.
How much do you make a month after 2 years?
Yea I'd like to know that as well
You sailed on a cable layer. My 1st ship at MSC was USNS ZEUS. Really fine duty, tho she's old!
Yea, I've heard about the Zeus, I sailed on the Global Sentinel, which I think may have joined the Zues as MSC
Honestly, the ONLY thing keeping me frong flying out tonaightah, is what I witnessed the first couple of minutes in this wealth of informational documentary: The Shaving of Ones Scalp. I have a thiq headah hair, and it's loung. Neat, but loung. Well kept, but loung. Never outtah place, but loung. Yeah, I'm finding it very huoard, to part ways with My Hair Bunn. It's not as easy as one might think. Shaved my head 2003 till 2009. Let it grow. Very cajsh. Make shure I snip some hair off every full moon. Yes, there's a technique. Now, I cuoant let it go. I could kick me shinns right now.
that is one voice i will not forget mr. guy class 878
I saw the unit marching but is there physical like running every morning? What's the physical consist of? Would like to start preparing myself to potentially give this a shot.
Jesus. Well phase I just blew my mind. Next!!
i need to complete my physical and drug test and im in the next class. cant wait. going to piney point too. i saw ur vids and they inspired me to join
Awesome! Best of luck!
Hey how long after application did you get to the physical/drug test part? looking to get into the school.
Very informative video sir 👍😎
TA and the decks looks alot different now! But cool to see how it use to look
Professional mariners
Seafarers hold a variety of professions and ranks, each of which carries unique responsibilities which are integral to the successful operation of an ocean-going vessel. A ship's crew can generally be divided into four main categories: the deck department, the engineering department, the steward's department, and others.
Good ole Piney Point Md.
When I was in the military, culinary specialists worked the worst hours. Up late securing the MKT (mobile kitchen tent) and making sure everything was clean. Up early, prepping, cooking, serving, and then cleaning again. Definitely a thankless job, regardless of being aboard ship, or on land as we were.
Interested why the program has such a military feel to it. I’ve seen programs about seaman training here in the U.K. and it’s completely different. Just like regular college education, but with some time away on a ship.
Yea man Idk. thats just how the do it. Nothing like how ships actually are.
I was asking that myself... but I'm wondering if they do that since MM's can be activated as Naval Auxiliary during time of war{?}.
because discipline and structure are a part of shipboard life
I love this
Terrific. What about mooring and casting off and winches and hawsers and all that?
Unity is my overriding take away on this video. Togetherness!!
We are going to have to have training for new young people in the maritime industry. Most of us from the Vietnam War military service era are retired or retiring from the industry. The maritime industry is not something you just “walk into”.
I was in class 491 Most of us had the pleasure of shipping MSC in Desert Storm in 90. Piney Point , What a great place to make a boy a man. The school was run by USMC retired Major Conklin. He loved selecting Marines for Master Chiefs and Assistant Chiefs Bosn’s The Quasi Military thing was real. I did a lot push ups at Piney Point. Shined boots and belt buckles & gig lines Greatest flash back memories and your video was awesome. Pretty close up of what Sea School is all about. To be SIU blue is a brotherhood that means something. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. We didn’t have cell phones then. We had to use pay phones and collect calls.
Hey man, great work on your channel. I genuinely love watching your videos. I have a question about marine navigation careers. I'm enrolled in a 3 year program for Marine Navigation Officer and I'm currently 36 years old. Am I too old to be picked up by any company when I'm completed my school? By then I'll be 40, would you say it's too late for me? Thanks for your time and effort.
It's never too late! I say go for it!
@@josephvasquez8278did you try it
I am so glad I stumbled onto your channel. Its 4AM and I've been binge watching. Very good presentation sir. I'm curious. You never mention cost of training. Who pays? the company you potentially work for or out of your own pocket? in addition how much money are you earning on your contracts for your voyages?
Yea so the school is pretty much free, you have to pass a little for uniforms travel etc. call it a couple hundred bucks. it depends on where you work on how much you get paid. but average 5-6k a month
@@JoeFranta Thats not bad considering you dont spend any money at sea for meals or entertainment. must suck after a while with no days off though. Thanks for the reply. Fair winds Bud
@@JoeFrantawith the school do you have to stay on campus
Wen you see the instructor with umbrella walking along with you mind boggles
Joe, During your 5-week wait for the ship, did you have an option to maybe take a certification or basic upgrade course? Missing underway experience time doesn't help. Or just shitty little jobs to pass the time? Did you get a stipend when on the ship?
Yeeeeah lol start phase 1 in a week here I’m excited but also very nervous 😩
good luck man, tell Mr.Guy i said hi
Does military sea service in the US Navy qualify you for a higher position in the U.S. Merchant Marine - and allow you to enter that career more quickly?
Class 505 was the last class to experience a “Bosuns Night”. After you work your 4 am to 8 pm work you would fall asleep and then come all the class bosuns for a night of hazing. We swam in galley slop for 4 hours and someone had the bright idea to put cayenne pepper in the mix so not only were we filthy and tired but the pepper was burring our balls and mucus membranes. Then we had to clean it all up before we had to go work in the galley for breakfast. There is clean and then there is Piney Point clean. We were the reason they stopped Bosun Nights. It was your run of the mill hazing even thought the handbook states that it is forbidden.
My Lady friend Lived in Piney Point and that school was Next to her grandparents home about a Block away