A guitar video would be lovely. As a guitarist myself, I've played a lot of tunes where the composer clearly did not bother writing a guitar part, so I have to read off of either the bass or piano parts. I'd love if you could *encourage* people to remember us lowly guitarists haha
I have feelings for you as a novice jazz arranger but guitar is what I'm struggling with the most. I play acoustic guitar but got no idea how it is on jazz guitar
I loved your C7 vs C13 hint. I just realized that the C13 isn’t just the harmony being used, but it really conveys the message to the piano player that this is how far you can go.
@@PandemoniumBigBand Ah, that's cool! Obviously, feel free to change titles, or just copy/paste as is - it's your video, and I'm very grateful for you teaching all this stuff for free.
Excellent explanation of piano part writing . . .I think the most effective is chords/rhythm slashes. I like to work out my own voicings and often jot them into the stave myself. Another thing I find super helpful is listening to what's going on and playing some of those highly coloured notes at the right time . . .often the flat nine can be inserted as a passing note (for example) Why bang out the entire chord on beat 1? 8:46 . . so true.
Thanks a lot! Bob McChesney is a monster of a trombonist. And Scott Healy is an amazing pianist. I was totally cheating. My writing had very little to do with why that clip sounded so great.
I recall seeing a bunch of complex and fast-changing chords written in rhythmic notation on the piano part on some of Thad's stuff in my college days. I wouldn't try to play it for the reason you mentioned. (That was a great observation on your part.)
Really great advice on notation for pianists, one could add a lot to this topic - summarised: simplify sight reading! No shocking changes from one page to another. Avoid repeats over two pages if possible. Don’t be crazy with codas and segnos jumping all over the place. Dont combine repeats and segnos. I personally like when the arrangers write in horn parts, this enables fills between lines……
Your videos and the service you provide from an educational standpoint point are excellent!
Thank you!
3:07 to 3:22 is just incredible. Great chord motions and a very satisfying melody
Thank you. Pretty proud of how that recording turned out. th-cam.com/video/J_VyUZJD32U/w-d-xo.html
A guitar video would be lovely. As a guitarist myself, I've played a lot of tunes where the composer clearly did not bother writing a guitar part, so I have to read off of either the bass or piano parts. I'd love if you could *encourage* people to remember us lowly guitarists haha
That's a great idea!
I have feelings for you as a novice jazz arranger but guitar is what I'm struggling with the most. I play acoustic guitar but got no idea how it is on jazz guitar
I loved your C7 vs C13 hint. I just realized that the C13 isn’t just the harmony being used, but it really conveys the message to the piano player that this is how far you can go.
0:00 _Intro_ - 0:44 _Jazz VS traditional_
1:17 *Chords & Slashes* 🎵2:23 - 3:37 *Rhythm Slashes* 🎵4:47
5:14 *Grand Staff* 🎵5:58 - 6:12 🎵7:15
7:42 _More considerations_ - 9:38 _Outro_
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00:00 *Intro*
00:44 *Jazz notation VS traditional*
01:17 *Chords & Slashes*
02:23 _Ex._ "Pink Sunset"
03:37 *Rhythm Slashes*
04:47 _Ex._ "Lady Be Good" _[1]_
05:14 *Grand Staff Notation:* Break
05:58 _Ex._ "Lady Be Good" _[2]_
06:12 *Grand Staff Notation:* Groove
07:15 _Ex._ "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year"
07:42 *A few more considerations*
09:38 *Outro*
10:12 Patrons
I should do this for my lessons.... but for now I'll just copy and paste the work you've done for me. Thank you!
@@PandemoniumBigBand Ah, that's cool!
Obviously, feel free to change titles, or just copy/paste as is - it's your video, and I'm very grateful for you teaching all this stuff for free.
Great video - thanks! As a pianist, the other (4th?) sort of notation is the single line melody with chords - often helpful in a shout-chorus section
Excellent explanation of piano part writing . . .I think the most effective is chords/rhythm slashes. I like to work out my own voicings and often jot them into the stave myself. Another thing I find super helpful is listening to what's going on and playing some of those highly coloured notes at the right time . . .often the flat nine can be inserted as a passing note (for example) Why bang out the entire chord on beat 1? 8:46 . . so true.
You are the Best teacher of Big band arragment
Super helpful! VERY VERY PRACTICAL!!!!
Wow nice playing on that ballad! And loving the sax trills.
Thanks a lot! Bob McChesney is a monster of a trombonist. And Scott Healy is an amazing pianist. I was totally cheating. My writing had very little to do with why that clip sounded so great.
Brilliant content as usual from Elliot 👏
From Guatemala, Thanks! Your videos are so educative! You are a good teacher as well as a composer you are!
Thank you, from Los Angeles!
Beautiful ballad, man!
Thank you!
I recall seeing a bunch of complex and fast-changing chords written in rhythmic notation on the piano part on some of Thad's stuff in my college days. I wouldn't try to play it for the reason you mentioned. (That was a great observation on your part.)
Patreonic duty! Love it
Great video's Elliot, just made my first big band arrangement. Thnx
That’s great! So glad I could help.
Great stuff man!
Glad you liked it!
Loving this stuff Great videos!
Glad you like them!
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Good stuff, Elliot.
Thanks!
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Excellent vid. Ty.
Awesome video, I’m keen for the guitar video if you make it!
Will do... maybe the next video!
Really great advice on notation for pianists, one could add a lot to this topic - summarised: simplify sight reading! No shocking changes from one page to another. Avoid repeats over two pages if possible. Don’t be crazy with codas and segnos jumping all over the place. Dont combine repeats and segnos. I personally like when the arrangers write in horn parts, this enables fills between lines……
The best
How do you change from grand to single stave and back? in Sibelius. PS Thanks for your previous answer.
There is a function in Sibelius called “hide empty staves”
Do you ever use repeat bar signs instead of slashes?
On piano parts: rarely.
On drum parts: constantly
Maybe a single staff part would be the 4th type of piano writing (writing just for one of the hands plus chords)
btw, great content!
Yeah, good point.
Would you do it this way for a high school group?
Usually yes. I guess it depends on the level of the band. For absolute beginners, I would notate the entire part.
@@PandemoniumBigBand Thank you
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