They are getting to the point I can’t watch it. Anoosh was far better at having these discussions. I think I’ll stick with Phil as he seems to know more than these. Honestly even Times Radio has a better handle on these riots.
I hate the coverage of this whole thing especially in this episode. The look of confusion from the three of them at the beginning with the description of the anti racist protest as if people would not do anything to defend their communities. Completely trying to skew the meaning of why people came to show solidarity with each other. The journo class are so incredibly out of touch its depressing.
A “good crisis” not sure I would agree with that, I'm pretty sure he would not either, the difference between Labour the the Tories laid bare for all to see. its beyond night and day, Labour keep up the good work, and my sympathy to everyone affected by the riots. It's good to see the real silent majority face up to the racists; for the first time in a long time, I'm proud to be British. Farage, you are a disgrace, far-right groups were attempting to make last night the worst day of violence so far. Yet not a single riot kicked off. The huge police operation, the deterrent of prison sentences, and the massive counter-protests look like they have forced the far-right into retreat, maybe even surrender. The task now is to make sure they can't pick up where they left off later.
4:54 am I the only one that thought this came across as really condescending and rude by Rachel. She was like 😊 'enough of you now I'm going to speak.' Not sure if it was the editing
I thought that 'okay' was her realising tht the fact this protester used chatgpt to try to find out what's going is indicative of the intellectual level of the whole crowd
I was at the Finchley demonstration and there was no anti-semitism in fact one of the chants was 'We are black, white, Muslims and we’re Jews, and we’re gay' and this was being chanted by everyone including the Muslims in attendance. I also haven't seen any posters in the area referencing 'zionists', in fact, the signs I have seen are the STAND UP TO RACISM ones, which make no mention. As to the 'two-tier' policing BS, if you're violent the police will come down hard, whereas if you are law-abiding and cooperative they won't. So of course the Pro-Palestine demonstrations are not policed in the same way as right thugs, throwing bricks and attacking the police.
So the police reaction to the burning of bus and police car in Harthill? Law abiding and cooperative? All the Bristol riots in 20 and 21 inc setting fire to police station, tearing down statues. Law abiding?
@@danielwebb8402 What are you talking about? Do you mean Harehills, where a bus was burnt by the racists? And what have demonstrations in Bristol got to do with one in North Finchley?
@MrDeadhead1952 Examples of two tier policing. Is what j am on about. Where wasn't "far right" so police acted incredibly differently, softer, well didn't really act at all.
I'll be surprised if consensus politicians are capable of solving the problems they caused. My instinct is things will have to get worse before a change of approach. It will probably take the imminent economic downturn and the ECHR handing Shamima Begum back her passport for things to really come to a head.
So the consensus (centrist) politicians are responsible for stoking hate, but the extremist fringe politicians are not; well that's an 'interesting theory'
500 prosecutions and counting. Giving the police the resources to police the protests and riots alike. Freeing up space in prisons to make space for these rioting thugs. Would not call that doing nothing
Will happen again. The country has spent 2+ decades electing governments that promised to control and moderate net migration - instead it has increased many-fold and our economic model allowed to become utterly dependent on it. The population of 2 Newcastles was added 2022-2023 via migration, needless to say we did not build 2 Newcastles worth of water, energy, transport and housing infrastructure. Inevitable.
That is the problem with politics! There is no good crises For the public but it’s good for the politicians!🤮🤮. How about you all just get real And stop this madness.
I think they should have brought Andrew Marr to discuss this topic. I don’t know, but I felt like the trio just wanted to get this episode done and over with and brush it under the carpet…
"If we put the windows of Curries through, we'll get a couple of tellies." The bourgeois condescension and ignorance displayed by the NS is sometimes staggering. People in the London riots were taking things they had either been denied by poverty, or that they needed, often both. I knew people who took rice, baby nappies, and yes sometimes items they thought they could later sell, so they could make rent. The NS has a really unfortunate habit of slipping into a kind of upper middle class ignorant snobbery, and maybe its journalists should spend a little more time thinking about their class privilege and the fact the poor actually exist.
Hmm, if we have oppressed most groups outside Britain, then those groups come to live in the oppressing citadel, and are oppressed inside the citadel too, they maybe ARE more likely to be traumatised etc. We've foisted a lack of dignity on much of the world and continue to do so. We have extracted and hold all the resources and structurally prevent readily identifiable groups (non whites) from accessing resources! Dismantling the City of London and Wall Street and global banking might be a good start. We need to wake up to our gross privilege meaning, if we think it's a zero sum game, that most peiple go without the basics neccessary to life.
The are all so lacking in any real world experience and sealed of amongst a deeply protected professional class. More working class people need to be hired to talk about these topics
I was going to say I disagreed, but after trying to draft a response I realised you are right. They are political journalists for the Westminster bubble, poorly equipped for anything outside of that.
One of the worst parts of this is that the murder of the three little girls has been lost and the devastation that has caused to their families has been lost in the far right's use of the tragedy as a springboard to advance their own agenda. It's disgusting.
"A Good crisis", indeed. What a terrible thing to say, and very revealing,too, about those who see politics as little more than a game. Johnson, Cameron,et al were all accused-rightly, in my opinion- of treating government as an extension of their various feuds and rivalries over the years; this is merely the Left-Wing version of that. Also, we are all agreed that the thugs and rabble-rousers deserve their punishment; indeed, if anything the sentences were too lenient. Racism is completely abhorrent, absolutely. Nevertheless, some of the anger is legitimate and has causes, as the New Statesman was very quick to point out during the 2011 riots, bur rather slower to highlight this time around. I know all too many people on the Left are ignorant about economics, so I'll explain it, simply. The price of something, in an open market, is determined by supply and demand. If the supply is limited, and demand for that product is very high, the price of that product will rise, often quite rapidly. Our population is rising very rapidly, housing stock is limited, so the price of rents and mortgages will go up, and up, and up. If the price of milk had increased at the same % level as housing has since 1980, we'd now be paying over £60 for a pint of milk, unbelievable though that seems. That's great if you've already paid off your mortgage, or are a multi-property owner; it's far from great if you're either trying to buy or rent a property. The poorest are, of course, most affected by this issue. And there was me thinking the New Statesman was a Left-Wing magazine!! Maybe the contributors to this podcast have the "Bank of Mum and Dad" to help them out.
Imagine trying to find something wrong with the outpouring of solidarity last night. We have had years of right wing propaganda shoved down our throats by the majority of media. We should just be proud and thankful. What a weird take.
"outpouring of solidarity" ? The counterprotests were the opposite of coming together. As the poll mentioned in the video the majority of Britons want lower immigration. The counter protests are contrary to this desire
@@Eltener123 The riots are not about race though. They were mostly about immigration (legal and illiegal), the effects of multiculturalism, anti Islamic terror etc. Sure there were some idiots there but the overall sentiment of the protests was valid and correct. The racism thing is not a thing. Its a strawman argument. Almost no one is racist in 2024 in the UK. However the majority are against the levels of immigration we have had for the last decade or two.
@@jonathanbowen3640 so when someone yells "Paki" at me they're making a statement about immigration and not just a racist lmao? Even though I'm 3rd generation British?
it means people who think that people are a problem because they're the same race or have the same heritage as people who have been problems. it's about broad strokes and emotion, romanticization of natives and demonization of others. for instance, trying migrants, illegal or otherwise, as if they're just animals who should be thrown around and terrified, shepherded off our islands. Spreading the sentiment of anger from legitimate grievances upon individuals who aren't even suspected of being a part of them just because they share some commonality in background.
Conventionally it means ethno-nationalist ideologies like nazism and fascism. Though I think there’s a reasonable argument that it could be applied to extreme religious nationalism too.
@@andybrice2711 Thanks. Any idea why the PM explicitly targets the far right when the far left are involved in similar thuggery? Shouldn't he target all extremists?
@@andybrice2711 there are many ways the stupidity of 'guilt by association' expresses it's self. but that's the true core of the far-right, particularly when that association is racial.
You guys are wrong. There's not more hatred in this. It IS of course different from previous riots as the times are different, but the common thread is young men (mostly) finding an outlet for their aggression. What might be different - though we can't know - is whether the puppetmasters (people have said Farage and Robinson, or even Putin and the extremely unpleasant Musk) are involved and that needs to be thoroughly investigated (as I'm sure the consummate details man who is our PM will instigate). The event should - as all events of this kind should - lead to a detailed analysis of WTFIGON but the counter-demonstrations being so much larger than the riots demonstrate clearly and optimistically that Britain is a mature and responsible nation. There's a temptation to say that the rioters should be sent to Rwanda so we get some bang for our bucks spent but that would be very inappropriate.
@@wally7361 honestly that’s the police’s job. But considering the rumour mill right now, I don’t trust anything spouted on social media as there’s a good chance it’s at best rubbish, or at worst political disinformation. Musky husky was sharing a completely false news paper front page. It’s impossible to trust randoms.
I can't be bothered to watch this. It has such a bizarre title. Yes, it would be nice if keir starmer brought the country together. it would have been nice if the last 20 prime ministers had brought the country together. But politicians are usually disappointing. There's little point in insisting the latest one does it. I started watching these pieces when they were criticising the previous failing governments but now they've turned on a sixpence and are criticising one that hasn't had time to do anything yet. I'm all for holding power to account but you're just turning into a bunch of whiners. Step back and think about what you're actually trying to do, you're losing credibility for the sake of trying to be tough.
@@charlieleedham5265 Governments love a war. Does all their work for them. Besides, it feels like we've had 20 just in the last few months. I lost count.
There are so many racist in the Police Force, I am mixed race and had a confrontation with a woman in Richmond Park, her dog attracted me as a cyclist. (no issue with the doggy) The Police officer told me to go back where I came from. I just walked away shaking my head. However, People are so angry they are struggling, cannot afford much and feel they are not being supported by the Government and see the help and support given to asylum seeks is making them angry.
If truly left or right they have very different aims. But 'far' implies extremism, and extremism tend to use oppression and violence whatever aims they claim. We don't really have an active far left - ie one that aggressively promotes common ownership - at the moment. We do have a mild left that is sometimes called 'far left' by people with opposing views.
Far right think their enemies are minorities, and they seek cultural and ethnic homogeneity. Far left think think their enemies are capitalists and the owner class.
Absolutely agree with the first response. There is often an overlap in mentality between far right and far left so they can occasionally appear to overlap though (e.g. the woo woo crowd being anti Vax because they don't think you should ingest anything that is not 'natural' and the far right hating vaccinations due to fear of conspiracies like Microsoft trying to track you)
I think we have all seen and even reports from the police on themselves have found that we do have 2-tier policing. It's just the opposite way around than Farage is saying it is.
I think it can be both simultaneously. For example: I think people from ethnic minorities are unfairly profiled, especially in scenarios like stop-and-search. But I do also get the impression that the police have overcorrected since 2011, and now they're reluctant to respond forcefully to rioters from ethnic minorities.
I think the question was actually which _Islamist_ country would be the first to get nuclear weapons. And Pakistan is not generally considered Islamist.
@@AdhityaMohan Yeah, but they still have quite some separation between government and clergy. They have elections. And Sharia law is not enshrined in their legal system. So, although they’re Islamic, they’re not quite Islamist.
So why isnt he bringing the country together,even after all the riots im not condoning ,hes still not mentioned what hes going to do, when ever he speaks of late its regarding the riots and rioters ,
Elon musk can't see past his own nose. And has no right commenting on what british people want when they just voted his friends out in their worst ever defeat.
Don't forget this is largely media fiction. There have been some small riots. They're mostly rentamobs. For instance, there were a bunch of people trying to set fire to a hotel. All the camera shots were of a couple of hundred troublemakers ('protester' is far to validating a word for them) in half a car park. It didn't actually extend beyond that, but that wouldn't have made exciting TV.
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Please note that these Riots have been taking place in England predominantly, no riots so far in Scotland and Wales
i thought it was iliegal to defend yourself with a machete but what do i know
worst analysis of this by far.
They are getting to the point I can’t watch it. Anoosh was far better at having these discussions. I think I’ll stick with Phil as he seems to know more than these. Honestly even Times Radio has a better handle on these riots.
How will Starmer handle the ECHR when they inevitably do the wrong and unpopular thing of handing Shamina Begum her passport back
I suspect he will respect the rule of law, unlike the far right thugs this week.
I hate the coverage of this whole thing especially in this episode. The look of confusion from the three of them at the beginning with the description of the anti racist protest as if people would not do anything to defend their communities.
Completely trying to skew the meaning of why people came to show solidarity with each other. The journo class are so incredibly out of touch its depressing.
it’s truly chilling.
And suprise at how the far right and pro israeli seem to be aligned
A “good crisis” not sure I would agree with that, I'm pretty sure he would not either, the difference between Labour the the Tories laid bare for all to see. its beyond night and day, Labour keep up the good work, and my sympathy to everyone affected by the riots.
It's good to see the real silent majority face up to the racists; for the first time in a long time, I'm proud to be British.
Farage, you are a disgrace, far-right groups were attempting to make last night the worst day of violence so far. Yet not a single riot kicked off. The huge police operation, the deterrent of prison sentences, and the massive counter-protests look like they have forced the far-right into retreat, maybe even surrender. The task now is to make sure they can't pick up where they left off later.
Hope Not Hate faked that list to invent protests to counter lol
4:54 am I the only one that thought this came across as really condescending and rude by Rachel. She was like 😊 'enough of you now I'm going to speak.' Not sure if it was the editing
Bit clumsy, nothing more.
I thought that 'okay' was her realising tht the fact this protester used chatgpt to try to find out what's going is indicative of the intellectual level of the whole crowd
Just the editing
If Rachel Cunliffe has no haters I'm dead.
No, it was Rachel’s exasperation at the fact that someone was genuinely using ChatGPT for their online research. And she’s right to be exasperated.
just a bit of property damage in birmingham? Someone got there head kicked in for just sitting in a pub? what a double standard.
I was at the Finchley demonstration and there was no anti-semitism in fact one of the chants was 'We are black, white, Muslims and we’re Jews, and we’re gay' and this was being chanted by everyone including the Muslims in attendance. I also haven't seen any posters in the area referencing 'zionists', in fact, the signs I have seen are the STAND UP TO RACISM ones, which make no mention. As to the 'two-tier' policing BS, if you're violent the police will come down hard, whereas if you are law-abiding and cooperative they won't. So of course the Pro-Palestine demonstrations are not policed in the same way as right thugs, throwing bricks and attacking the police.
So the police reaction to the burning of bus and police car in Harthill? Law abiding and cooperative?
All the Bristol riots in 20 and 21 inc setting fire to police station, tearing down statues. Law abiding?
Oh that’s weird I was there too and I heard “Death to Zionism” and “From the River to the Sea”
@@Philsmahsmchjsb Must have been the fascist next to you then.
@@danielwebb8402 What are you talking about? Do you mean Harehills, where a bus was burnt by the racists? And what have demonstrations in Bristol got to do with one in North Finchley?
@MrDeadhead1952
Examples of two tier policing. Is what j am on about. Where wasn't "far right" so police acted incredibly differently, softer, well didn't really act at all.
I'll be surprised if consensus politicians are capable of solving the problems they caused. My instinct is things will have to get worse before a change of approach. It will probably take the imminent economic downturn and the ECHR handing Shamima Begum back her passport for things to really come to a head.
So the consensus (centrist) politicians are responsible for stoking hate, but the extremist fringe politicians are not; well that's an 'interesting theory'
Is Keir Starmer going to make the country better, or not.....Still letting hostile players into the country ....That would be a no, then.
Starmer's a stiff. The country are sorting this out not him.
500 prosecutions and counting. Giving the police the resources to police the protests and riots alike. Freeing up space in prisons to make space for these rioting thugs. Would not call that doing nothing
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Will happen again. The country has spent 2+ decades electing governments that promised to control and moderate net migration - instead it has increased many-fold and our economic model allowed to become utterly dependent on it. The population of 2 Newcastles was added 2022-2023 via migration, needless to say we did not build 2 Newcastles worth of water, energy, transport and housing infrastructure. Inevitable.
They did. And they worsened the structural inequality at all scales.
That is the problem with politics! There is no good crises
For the public but it’s good for the politicians!🤮🤮.
How about you all just get real
And stop this madness.
No chance.
His job is to destroy it.
He will be remebered as 1 term 2 tier Keir 😂😂😂
He has no intention of doing so. i just hope he does not turn up at the rememberance day service.
Excellent debate. Made me think and reflect.
People marching with Palestine flags and Pakistan flags - if that isn’t evidence of poor integration idk what is
I think they should have brought Andrew Marr to discuss this topic. I don’t know, but I felt like the trio just wanted to get this episode done and over with and brush it under the carpet…
"If we put the windows of Curries through, we'll get a couple of tellies."
The bourgeois condescension and ignorance displayed by the NS is sometimes staggering.
People in the London riots were taking things they had either been denied by poverty, or that they needed, often both. I knew people who took rice, baby nappies, and yes sometimes items they thought they could later sell, so they could make rent.
The NS has a really unfortunate habit of slipping into a kind of upper middle class ignorant snobbery, and maybe its journalists should spend a little more time thinking about their class privilege and the fact the poor actually exist.
Starmer is a dictator.
Hmm, if we have oppressed most groups outside Britain, then those groups come to live in the oppressing citadel, and are oppressed inside the citadel too, they maybe ARE more likely to be traumatised etc. We've foisted a lack of dignity on much of the world and continue to do so. We have extracted and hold all the resources and structurally prevent readily identifiable groups (non whites) from accessing resources! Dismantling the City of London and Wall Street and global banking might be a good start. We need to wake up to our gross privilege meaning, if we think it's a zero sum game, that most peiple go without the basics neccessary to life.
Why do we think these people are far right? Do they have extreme views on taxes, family values, etc? These are not political people
The are all so lacking in any real world experience and sealed of amongst a deeply protected professional class. More working class people need to be hired to talk about these topics
I was going to say I disagreed, but after trying to draft a response I realised you are right.
They are political journalists for the Westminster bubble, poorly equipped for anything outside of that.
Rioters in jail… Manchester airport mob aren’t even charged! But there’s no two tier policing 😂
Maybe if they hadn’t needed to prioritise rioters they would be. The rioters are screwing up everything they pretend to want.
Labour have an MP shouting out cut the far rights throats 😂😂😂😂😂
One of the worst parts of this is that the murder of the three little girls has been lost and the devastation that has caused to their families has been lost in the far right's use of the tragedy as a springboard to advance their own agenda. It's disgusting.
"A Good crisis", indeed. What a terrible thing to say, and very revealing,too, about those who see politics as little more than a game. Johnson, Cameron,et al were all accused-rightly, in my opinion- of treating government as an extension of their various feuds and rivalries over the years; this is merely the Left-Wing version of that. Also, we are all agreed that the thugs and rabble-rousers deserve their punishment; indeed, if anything the sentences were too lenient. Racism is completely abhorrent, absolutely. Nevertheless, some of the anger is legitimate and has causes, as the New Statesman was very quick to point out during the 2011 riots, bur rather slower to highlight this time around. I know all too many people on the Left are ignorant about economics, so I'll explain it, simply. The price of something, in an open market, is determined by supply and demand. If the supply is limited, and demand for that product is very high, the price of that product will rise, often quite rapidly. Our population is rising very rapidly, housing stock is limited, so the price of rents and mortgages will go up, and up, and up. If the price of milk had increased at the same % level as housing has since 1980, we'd now be paying over £60 for a pint of milk, unbelievable though that seems. That's great if you've already paid off your mortgage, or are a multi-property owner; it's far from great if you're either trying to buy or rent a property. The poorest are, of course, most affected by this issue. And there was me thinking the New Statesman was a Left-Wing magazine!! Maybe the contributors to this podcast have the "Bank of Mum and Dad" to help them out.
Imagine trying to find something wrong with the outpouring of solidarity last night.
We have had years of right wing propaganda shoved down our throats by the majority of media.
We should just be proud and thankful. What a weird take.
"outpouring of solidarity" ? The counterprotests were the opposite of coming together. As the poll mentioned in the video the majority of Britons want lower immigration. The counter protests are contrary to this desire
@@jonathanbowen3640 solidarity with people facing racial hatred is the opposite of what the majority of people in this country want?
@@Eltener123 The riots are not about race though. They were mostly about immigration (legal and illiegal), the effects of multiculturalism, anti Islamic terror etc. Sure there were some idiots there but the overall sentiment of the protests was valid and correct. The racism thing is not a thing. Its a strawman argument. Almost no one is racist in 2024 in the UK. However the majority are against the levels of immigration we have had for the last decade or two.
@@jonathanbowen3640The counter protests were the opposite of solidarity? You need to cope a bit harder than that.
@@jonathanbowen3640 so when someone yells "Paki" at me they're making a statement about immigration and not just a racist lmao? Even though I'm 3rd generation British?
Eh? What are you talking about? Your Tory mates and their media mates did this. You really are unbelievable.
Ummm, The New Statesman is famously a progressive magazine; not sure why you think they are mates with the increasingly far right leaning Torys
"Far-right" sais the comunist...😂
Bit of a scrappy podcast and not one I’d personally expect from the statesmen. A lot of she said this and he said that. Bit ew and a bit cringe.
'Far right' means what exactly?
it means people who think that people are a problem because they're the same race or have the same heritage as people who have been problems. it's about broad strokes and emotion, romanticization of natives and demonization of others. for instance, trying migrants, illegal or otherwise, as if they're just animals who should be thrown around and terrified, shepherded off our islands. Spreading the sentiment of anger from legitimate grievances upon individuals who aren't even suspected of being a part of them just because they share some commonality in background.
Far right means being a Nazi sympathiser, a bit like you really.
Conventionally it means ethno-nationalist ideologies like nazism and fascism.
Though I think there’s a reasonable argument that it could be applied to extreme religious nationalism too.
@@andybrice2711 Thanks. Any idea why the PM explicitly targets the far right when the far left are involved in similar thuggery? Shouldn't he target all extremists?
@@andybrice2711 there are many ways the stupidity of 'guilt by association' expresses it's self. but that's the true core of the far-right, particularly when that association is racial.
You guys are wrong. There's not more hatred in this. It IS of course different from previous riots as the times are different, but the common thread is young men (mostly) finding an outlet for their aggression. What might be different - though we can't know - is whether the puppetmasters (people have said Farage and Robinson, or even Putin and the extremely unpleasant Musk) are involved and that needs to be thoroughly investigated (as I'm sure the consummate details man who is our PM will instigate). The event should - as all events of this kind should - lead to a detailed analysis of WTFIGON but the counter-demonstrations being so much larger than the riots demonstrate clearly and optimistically that Britain is a mature and responsible nation. There's a temptation to say that the rioters should be sent to Rwanda so we get some bang for our bucks spent but that would be very inappropriate.
Has Starmer arrested the African Gangs smashing up Croydon? Thought not.
9 people were arrested last night. Is that what you mean?
@@andybrice2711I expect the thing they are talking about is entirely made up.
@@col.hertford9855perhaps you should check the facts?
Why would he arrest people who don't exist?
@@wally7361 honestly that’s the police’s job. But considering the rumour mill right now, I don’t trust anything spouted on social media as there’s a good chance it’s at best rubbish, or at worst political disinformation. Musky husky was sharing a completely false news paper front page. It’s impossible to trust randoms.
I can't be bothered to watch this. It has such a bizarre title.
Yes, it would be nice if keir starmer brought the country together.
it would have been nice if the last 20 prime ministers had brought the country together.
But politicians are usually disappointing. There's little point in insisting the latest one does it.
I started watching these pieces when they were criticising the previous failing governments but now they've turned on a sixpence and are criticising one that hasn't had time to do anything yet. I'm all for holding power to account but you're just turning into a bunch of whiners. Step back and think about what you're actually trying to do, you're losing credibility for the sake of trying to be tough.
@@charlieleedham5265 Governments love a war. Does all their work for them. Besides, it feels like we've had 20 just in the last few months. I lost count.
There are so many racist in the Police Force, I am mixed race and had a confrontation with a woman in Richmond Park, her dog attracted me as a cyclist. (no issue with the doggy) The Police officer told me to go back where I came from. I just walked away shaking my head. However, People are so angry they are struggling, cannot afford much and feel they are not being supported by the Government and see the help and support given to asylum seeks is making them angry.
And everybody clapped
In what way is far right different to far left?
Political ideology left are generally less violent.
If truly left or right they have very different aims. But 'far' implies extremism, and extremism tend to use oppression and violence whatever aims they claim. We don't really have an active far left - ie one that aggressively promotes common ownership - at the moment. We do have a mild left that is sometimes called 'far left' by people with opposing views.
Far right think their enemies are minorities, and they seek cultural and ethnic homogeneity.
Far left think think their enemies are capitalists and the owner class.
Absolutely agree with the first response. There is often an overlap in mentality between far right and far left so they can occasionally appear to overlap though (e.g. the woo woo crowd being anti Vax because they don't think you should ingest anything that is not 'natural' and the far right hating vaccinations due to fear of conspiracies like Microsoft trying to track you)
They don't burn down libraries or loot Lush, Greggs and Shoezone.
I think we have all seen and even reports from the police on themselves have found that we do have 2-tier policing. It's just the opposite way around than Farage is saying it is.
Indeed. Every single indpendent report of the last 3 decades has found an institutionally racist police force.
I think it can be both simultaneously. For example: I think people from ethnic minorities are unfairly profiled, especially in scenarios like stop-and-search. But I do also get the impression that the police have overcorrected since 2011, and now they're reluctant to respond forcefully to rioters from ethnic minorities.
Starmer🐺🙋🗯️
19:36 Pakistan already has nuclear weapons. What do you mean first?
I think the question was actually which _Islamist_ country would be the first to get nuclear weapons. And Pakistan is not generally considered Islamist.
@@andybrice2711 they are literally called the Islamic republic of Pakistan
@@AdhityaMohan Yeah, but they still have quite some separation between government and clergy. They have elections. And Sharia law is not enshrined in their legal system. So, although they’re Islamic, they’re not quite Islamist.
@@AdhityaMohan Though there are tribal regions, where (as I understand it) the local clergy are also the leaders.
@@andybrice2711they have elections like Russia has elections. The military runs the show, they may not be a full blown theocracy but pretty close.
So why isnt he bringing the country together,even after all the riots im not condoning ,hes still not mentioned what hes going to do, when ever he speaks of late its regarding the riots and rioters ,
He’s going on holiday next week😂
They need to establish control. No point talking while Rome is burning.
Starmer a man who objected to criminals being deported being able to bring the country together a snowball in hell would stand a better chance
No Union Jack's flying from these proud inclusive British communities.....
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Elon Musk can see the injustice of the British system
Elon musk can't see past his own nose. And has no right commenting on what british people want when they just voted his friends out in their worst ever defeat.
As an American this is wild to watch. We’re not this bad 😅
Ha, let me just look at video of Jan 6 2021 and see how it compares...
No, you're worse
Don't forget this is largely media fiction. There have been some small riots. They're mostly rentamobs. For instance, there were a bunch of people trying to set fire to a hotel. All the camera shots were of a couple of hundred troublemakers ('protester' is far to validating a word for them) in half a car park. It didn't actually extend beyond that, but that wouldn't have made exciting TV.
Forgotten Charlottesville already?
Starmer🐺🙋🗯️