Mu'tazili 1 - Qadariya Origins
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- Islamic political philosophy is absolutely fascinating. Here is the brief story of the rise and fall of the Qadariya doctrine that formed the basis of the Mu'tazili thought that developed in the period of Mamun ul Rashid.
Steven C. Judd, "Ghaylan al-Dimashqi: The Isolation of a Heretic in Islamic Historiography", International Journal of Middle East Studies , Vol. 31, No. 2 (May, 1999), pp. 161-184, Cambridge University Press. www.jstor.org/stable/176291
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ڈاکٹر صاحب۔ یقین کیجیے میں آپ کو کئی سالوں سے دیکھ رہا ہوں بلکہ بچپن سے ۔ آپ کے لال بینڈ کے دور سے ہی ۔ آپ جس اب روز بروز آپ کا ارتقاء مجھے بہت اچھا لگا ۔ جمود اور ڈھٹائی یقیناً اچھی چیز نہیں ۔ اور آپ اچھا کرتے ہیں جو ہمیشہ نئی راہیں۔ دریافت کرتے ہیں۔ تو ڈاکٹر صاحب آپ کی بھرپور حوصلہ افزائی۔ ہمیں سکھانے کا بہت شکریہ۔
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ڈاکٹر صاحب بہت شکریہ
شکر ہے کسی نے تو اسلامی تاریخ پر حقائق پر مبنی گفتگو کا آغاز کیا، ورنہ تو اسلامی تاریخ کسی ایک فرقہ سے شروع ہو کر دوسرے فرقہ پر ختم ہو جاتی تھی، اور ہم جیسے تشنہ لب رہ جاتے تھے، بل کہ یہ کہنا بجا ہوگا کہ انگشت بدنداں رہ جاتے تھے
اللہ پاک آپ کو سلامت رکھے آمین
ماشاءاللہ مارکسزم اور فلسفہ پڑھاتے پڑھاتے آپ اقبال، پرویز، غامدی صاحب جیسے متکلمین scholastics کی صف میں آ گئے۔ جن باتوں کی عربوں کو اپنی مادری زبان میں سمجھ نہیں آئ وہ آپ بیان فرمائیں گے۔ جزاک الللہ خیر الکم۔
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آپکی انتھک محنت اور بہت گہری تحقیق کا بہت شکریہ۔ حقیقت تو یہی ہے کہ مسلمانوں کی اکثریت کو اپنی ہی تاریخ اور حقائق کا علم نہیں ہے یا ہے تو بہت کم یا اور غیر تحقیق شدہ ہے !
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شکریہ ڈاکٹر صاحب، صرف ایک پروگرام ھی انسان کی زندگی تبدیل کرنے کی صلاحیت رکھتا ھے، خدا آباد رکھے۔
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Comrade thanks a lot for sharing knowledge with us who themselves couldn't read like you. Love from Peshawar
بے شک انسان اپنے فیصلوں میں آزاد ہے ،اللہ اسی آزادی کے بارے حساب کے گا ۔قرآن میں اسی کا ذکر ہے سورہ 18 میں
یہ آزادی محدود ہے، بلکہ ایک وسیع دائرے کے احاطہ میں مقید ہے، اس ارادے کی آذادی کا حقیقی مفہوم مطلق آذادی سے دور ہے
It's not absolute Freedom
مسلہء تقدیر تقوای اختیار کیئے بغیر سمجھ آنا مشکل ہے۔
تقوای کے لیئے اللّٰہ سبحانہُ وتعالیٰ کی ذات عالی کے یقین کی قوت درکار ہے لہٰذا عقلی فلسفیانہ ٹامک ٹوئیاں مارنے کے بجائے، ایمان و یقین کے بلند مدارج کے حصول کی محنت کو اختیار کرنا ضروری ہے۔ اس کامل یقین کے نور کی برکت سے اللّٰہ سبحانہُ وتعالیٰ قلب کی بند گرہیں کھول کر اپنے علم کے خزانوں سے علم عطا فرما دے گا۔
@@sohaibshah9236 بھائی صاحب۔ میں نے قرآنی کی آیت پیش کی ہے کوئی عقلی فلسفیانہ ٹامک ٹوئیاں نہیں ماریں ۔اب قرآن کے بعد کس علم کا آپ کو انتظار ہے ؟
جزاک اللہ خیر
@@shaha8783 جی درست فرمایا آپ نے، کہ قرآن پاک میں ایسا ہی لکھا ہے، لیکن البتہ بندہ کی رائے میں قرآن پاک کے مفہوم کے مطابق جس اختیار کا ذکر ہے، اس اختیار کی حقیقی نوعیت کو سمجھنا عمومی سرسری مفہوم کے بجائے زیادہ گہرے علم کا متقاضی ہے، جو اللّٰہ سبحانہُ وتعالیٰ ہی کی طرف سے اپنے خاص بندوں کو عطا فرمایا جاتا ہے۔ بہر صورت بندہ نے در اصل آپ کے کمنٹ کے جواب میں اپنا کمنٹ نہیں دیا تھا۔ اللّٰہ سبحانہُ وتعالیٰ آپ کو جزائے خیر عطا فرمائے آمین
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Enlightening ❤❤❤
rationality vs. orthodoxy in Islam is a very important topic we can dig out present irrational attitude of muslims ...
Thank you sir for your efforts.
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Every body must listen to your lectures
مسئلہ جبر و قدر یا تقدیر ازلی ایک معمہ ہے۔۔۔ کبھی انسان اس کو حل نہیں کرسکےگا
Musalman 1400 saal me aik bhe masala hal nahi kar pai to masala jabar o qadar ya taqdeer azli ko hal painge. Mulla mufti party ne jahalat pehlai huey hai musalmano ko ta qayamat jahil rakhnay ke liye abhi tak wo ye tay nahi kar pai ke agar pani na ho to gand kitnay dheelo se saaf karni hai.
سر میری بھی بالکل یہی سوچ ھے۔۔
اور ایک دلچسپ چیز جو مشاہدے میں آتی ہے کہ ہمارے علماء کرام؛
(دونوں قسم کے نقطۂ نظر سے تعلق رکھنے والے)-
اس بات پہ کیوں لوگوں کو مختلف طریقوں یا مثالوں وغیرہ سے سمجھانے کی کوشش میں لگ جاتے ہیں جب بھی کوئی یہ سوال اٌن کے سامنے رکھتا ھے۔۔؟؟
Aap kitaabul taqdeer az g.a.parvez kaa mutaalaa krñ,hukuraanoñ ke talway chaatnay waaloñ ke eye bayaanaat hñ
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No words to express gratitude for this video full of wisdom and correct historical background. Your valour, in this suppressive environment, too is admirable.
Dr. Taimur may also comment on Ghamdi perspective that Ummad had the asabia of the people, as that is the norm for any system. Ghamdi is also of the view that khufaie راشدین was some thing ordained by divinity, as having such lije pious people as head of state, during that tribal milieu was not possible unless God willed it.
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sir humein bohat khushi he ke ap is series ko shuroo kar rahe hein
Great way to communicate.
ماشاءاللہ بہت ہی عمدہ طریقے سے ایکسپلین کیا
کاش کہ یہ ویڈیو 3 سال پہلے مل گئی ہوتی ۔۔۔ بہت ہی helpful
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شکریہ ڈاکٹر صاحب۔
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ڈاکٹر صاحب شکریہ
Some of the "halaat" described look eerily similar whats going on in the country even today...LOL
But the topic is very interesting and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series.
Thank you for bringing this to us.
Brilliant- but also shows how handicapped we are, even at this level of scholarly discourse to rely on the western “orientalists” to decipher the history of our own philosophical evolution. That has to be undone somehow.
Well prepared and presented ❤
Mutazilah encouraged the Islamic world to use logic and reasoning. All the great Islamic scientist, Ibn Sena, Ibn Kindi, Ibn Rushd were all following of this Islamic philosophy. Ibn Rushd wrote a book to counter the claim of Al Ghazali in his book "The incoherence of the incoherence" in which he answered and also challenged the philosophy of Al Ghazadi and his followeres. Ibn Rushd advocated rationality over blind belief. This is why European credits Ibn Rushd for Renaissance.
so what's your take? those weren't wrong. ? I slightly saw series of imam Ahmed bin humbal , they were protrayed very negative ... so I have very bad picture of them.
@@fahadjavaid7336 they were completely wrong about their belief regarding Quran being a creation and not the word of God
Apne keya incoherence of the incoherence para.tankid Karne se pehle Zara ppar toh le.
@@nabilmostofa2249 I guess you haven't read The incoherent of the incoherence by Ibn Rushd. In the book, Ibn Rushd answers the questions raised by Al Ghazali and emphasize logic and reasoning. Maybe you should read the book before googling and commenting.
@@batosato I said in favour of ibn rushd.you misunderstood my comment.
Absolutely beautiful and Informative Video as always ❤
Jeetay Rahen Dr. Sahab 💕
Professor Taimur, this was an absolutely brilliant presentation of the debate between Predestination and Free Will. The historical and political context provides the necessary references to understand the subject. I plan to watch all the parts in this series. Is is possible to request transcripts of these presentations? Kudos for this labor of love. I appreciate and understand the endless hours of research that have gone into the making of these videos. Thank you
Thank you. There is no transcript as such but my notes are visible on the screen.
If we see the time of Mutizla and interpretation of quran given by Ghulam Ahmed Prviz , the claim of islam to be modern , rational pro science and progressive seem to be true and athentic
Which book?
❤❤ wait anxiously for part 2 Sir
such a great and important video for youth which is batteling with these terms only in their heads and cannot agree to some and cannot disagree also because of the fesr that they will become mushrik or will be expelled out of the circle of islam...
Waiting impatiently for more videos❤
Anxiously waiting for part 2
❤ An excellent effort. Thanks
Sir why not to start Islamic History from 632 AD to date. The Muslim Expansion to Fall of baghdad, Crusades, clash of civlizations and Islam in Subcontinent as well as revivalist movement. I want to listen this from one of the Greatest Historial and Political Scientist
Same here
‘Islamic philosophy is a political philosophy’ says it all. This really is the gist of Islam and all divine instructions, so to establish a fair, just and ‘egalitarian’ society.
This message, has been complicated by the jurists. The simplicity of the message makes it effective and comprehensible for all.
Dr Israr Ahmed used to say the exact same that it is a political philosophy and that scholars corrupted this idea and turned it into a nonpolitical philosophy.
I hope you will continue doing this kind of work in future. Very informative and fascinating.
Well done.
Keep going.
Doctor Sb. Words are not suffice to say thank you for informative and unique sharing. Method of teaching is outstanding. ❤
May you live long and keep educating us. This way, we will explore true Islam and set principles for the development of society.
We need more people like you in muslim nation around the world . JazakAllah ❤
Loved it. Thank you Sir🙏
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Sir, its your historic and valiant contribution..
Sir I have already heard many of your lectures on the history of philosophy .
Dr Sb, really a great contribution towards creating true understanding Muslim History and inciting interest of new generation. No doubt it is very sensitive issue particularly the level of our nation but you did magically well. Sauté Comrade.
I advise you all to see Dr. Vikas lectures on Indian philosophy as well.
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Great effort. Waiting for next part.
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Algorithm
Both 😊
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Love you sir... Waiting for part 2
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Dr sahab apka kaam sadqa e jaria hy... Allah tala apko lambi zindgi aur sehat atta farmye ta keh ap esi trah ilm ki shama roshan krty rahen
Thank you so much sir...
Learned great insights from your video sir. Your content is well researched and comrehensive and easy to digest 😄 as you simplyfy complex terms
Looking into history I just came to know that the insecurities of the Umayyad Dynasty to cover up their mess in fitna 1&2 became the reason of Islamic Downfalls and the current situation in Pakistan totally refers to that.
it was brutal murder of Uthman r a brought in muslim split
Thumbs-up for your generous efforts honourable sir.
Lajawab. Always had doubts about you. No convinced of your knowledge.
Beautiful! Educational! Salute to You! Long Live!
Thank you for sharing this.. Amazing info.
Super interesting
Waiting for part 2
Great job Dr. Sahib, as usual. !!
ھم خود بھی اپنے ھی خلاف ھو جاتے ھیں بغیر تحقیق کیے ھوئے اور یورپ کے پروپوگنڈے میں آجاتے ھی شکریہ آپا تحقیق اور اپنا نقتہ نظر واضح کرنے کا ڈاکٹر مزمل قریشی ھاشمی کیلی فورنیا USA since 1981
Sir the great 💯
Thanks for your good studies and prominence presentation ❤
Please do go through the literature and the research done by mr ghulam ahmad parwaiz published by an institution named as tullue islam.i am sure you will find it very fruitful and insightful. well I think mr g a parwaiz is mostly like the replica of the motazila in this 21st century.cheers and t.c.regards danish husain kalwar.
Brilliant Lecture. Waiting for next parts Sir
Please keep this series continue. Very enducational
آپ نے بہت عمدہ سیریز آغاز کی۔ اس کی تمام اقساط اہم ہونگی ❤
I love to hear you more keenly when you talk about islam
Nicely explained, waiting For nxt episod...
Keep it up Sir