The Strange Drowning of Natalie Wood
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Ryan: *able to say Dr. Lakshmanan Sathyvagiswaran*
Also Ryan: *can’t say February*
dummy thicc 17:24
highkey butchered it but ykw its passible 💀😭
Tbf he practiced the Dr.’s name like a million times
but he’s practiced the february one two million-
Lol it's an Indian name, a damn long one at that.
Connor when did he butcher February
Are we just gonna pass over the fact that the old couple on the nearby yacht were named Payne and Wayne
FUCKING THANK YOU I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE MAD THEY DIDNT MAKE A JOKE
I love that, thats so cute
Lol thankyou.
soul mates
Wayne West
who hears “help! someone help me!” and thinks it’s just a party
YOUR MOM!!!!! OH U JUST GOT DABBED ON
@@Layladad0ll i think that's the point
Well one time I was passing in the neighborhood and there was a truck parked on the side of the road and there was a woman hanging out the side crying and she was clearly on something and her boyfriend was sitting there just waiting for her cuz she was grabbing at the keys and trying to get him to stop so we stopped and the girls like he's going to hurt me and the dude looks at us like he was explaining she was on something
@@foxycinnamonkitten997 oh wow
“HELP I AM BEING MURDERED AAAAAAAAAAAA”
*in the other room*
“damn that party sounds crazy”
I blame the fortune teller. It was a self fulfilling prophecy. If she hadn't have made Natalie and her mother so scared of water / drowning Natalie likely would have learned to swim and survived.
I blame the mother for believing her and never teaching Natalie to swim.
well from what i understood she was already scared of water, whatever the fortune teller told her just made it kind of worse
@@kenmaskt yeah, they did say her mother made Natalie scared of dark water, and when visiting the fortune teller it made it worse so
Blame the mother I guess, but then again, it didn't really matter in the end because Natalie went on a yacht trip for some reason despite her fear yet died anyways
oh damn you're right
She was heavily drunk so ther is no point she cud swim in that condition even if she knew how to swim
How does a person with a fear of water have the guts to go on a yacht
I'm wondering that too.
That's what I was wondering too...If I was scared of water, a yacht would be the last place you'd find me...It's also ironic that, due to being afraid of water, you probably don't learn how to swim - and thus, you're indeed more likely to drown...
I'm afraid of water (more specifically swimming), which basically means that I can easily submerge my feet in water if there is no danger of me drowning there. The same applies to travelling by boat. Phobias are different, and things like that aren't black and white. You can be afraid of drowning and still be on board of a yacht.
Wow, really, you're not scared of boats, then? Because...well, if drowning is likely in any place, it's on a boat if something goes wrong there. Well, maybe that's a similar phenomenon like with me being scared of heights - but I have no trouble sitting in a plane. Fascinating, really. Right, phobias are not logical...
Maybe she was a little drunk, before even entering O.o?
Natalie, who’s been afraid of water her whole life: Ya baby it’s yacht time
This deserves more likes 😭
Emma Lee Those words strike fear into me
Idk if it was the same for Natalie, but I'm also terrified of water (and have been my whole life, same as her) and I'm okay with boats. Kayaks, canoes, anything like that are an absolute nightmare but things like yachts and speedboats are alright. I definitely can't be on a boat without a lifejacket though, and I'll never get in the water. I'm guessing it might have been similar for her
YEAH
I do rowing but I'm terrified of drowning
Every time I go for a drug test I think of Shane’s fear because even though I’ve never done drugs, haven’t even smoked pot, my brain is like “what if someone gave you an edible and you didn’t notice? What if you snorted crack and forgot?” Like I know that’s not really a thing but that’s how my brain works
I had an arbys sandwich and failed a drug test once from the poppy seeds 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
thats not likely unless you had a very small dosage, but if you eat poppy seeds you will fail for the next 2 t o3 weeks
shane's exact fear happened to me, now i'm in sober living LOL it's real
That's funny
I like how everyone on this yacht is either suspicious or intoxicated while Walken is the only sane person just trying to relax, lmao
It blows my mind that Ryan can pronounce crazy names perfectly, but he can’t pronounce “February”
"DR. LAKSHMANAN SATHYAVAGISWARAN"
How in the world was he able to pronounce that perfectly?
True 😂 🤣
Vincinel The Seventh Warrior he’s so gorg
It’s feb you airy. Change my mind
@@alexandergilles8583 Why?
Every time I google myself I end up reading about this case.
Cheers, mum & dad.
Too funny!
Nice😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
XD
Natalie Woods well that’s a fun fact
Lol
Lucky to have such an interesting name
My name is common and boring enough, as you can tell.
13:05 Robert Wagner sure seems to have a pretty detailed story for someone who doesn't know what happened.
"Here's what must have happened; these forty things in succession."
Liars love to talk and tell stories...Liars give detailed accounts
@@Cutthecamerasdeadass1899yeah but if his wife mysteriously died itd make sense hed mull it over and try to figure out how it happened lmao
Gosh this is heartbreaking. Poor girl, it's very sad imagining she was clawing desperately to get on the boat, I burst into tears.
Help me please help me
No one screams like that at a party
considering the variant type of drugs and what people say when on them, i wouldnt rule it out.
Oh actually, from my experience, people are very often overreacting and overdramatizing while intoxicated, so this part is rather logical for me. The part that I find weird is why the hell would she even go on a yacht if she was so afraid of water.
Susan Kolodziejska Right? In the begining when they got into the story I couldn't stop thinking "What are u even doing".I imagined somebody with such a fobia and all would try to avoid situation like these,not go on a yacht on purpose.
Susan Kolodziejska so fucking true. That's what I was thinking this whole episode. Why tf would she be on a boat, willingly drinking. That's like me drinking on a parachute fucking plane. No thanks. Can't catch me in one of those
Don't know about that, just a week ago a friend of mine spent about 2 hours being completely hysterical and shouting that 'they are gonna kill him' after smoking weed
Arcotophobia is the fear of bears which is what Ryan has and pharmacophobia is the fear of being drugged which is what Shane has
thank you for the info vro
I didn't know fear of bears had a name. Thank you. I have this as well then.
KayKay2513 dude same
Well while thats happening im scared of ballphobia which means im scared to get hit by a ball
jesus christ i'm stupid , i mixed them up , thanks for commenting this lol
Ryan saying "Do you not know how love works?" in that tone is the cutest thing ever. ( 3:42 )
Imagine if Robert was actually the man who just chucked her into the water and then proceeded to star in movies for decades later, thats terrifying
Seems like an "if I can't have you, no one can" moment.
Yea I agree
You’re right, I think Wagner should be a prime suspect
Facts
Buzzfeed should make a “solved” murders segment with the catch that it was unsolvable and bizarre at first yet was solved later.
That’s a really good idea!
Yess. I just find it frustrating when listening to unsolved crimes. I prefer true crime stories with a bit of "happy ending"
@@misssteak1290 if you think about it there are millions if not 10s or 100s of millions of unsolved cases nearly 1 million people go missing in the us alone each year that disappear without a trace
one thing is this case isn’t unsolved. These guys in the video fail to mention any of the detectives and private investigators that found Wagner the culprit. There’s a book about this. This case was an open secret in Hollywood. Everyone knew about this. Wagner was a known alcoholic and was abusive and it was known not just rumored that Woods was sleeping with Walken. I know Natalies family the captain and Walken all know what really happened and have spoke about it. Natalies body had a lot of contusions and blunt force trauma that’s what made this case so ridiculous that it was an accident. My grandpa was one of the cops on this case and he said she looked like she had been attacked. A lot of people from the very beginning didn’t believe Roberts story. There was not just one but multiple witnesses that heard her fighting with Wagner. This case is the inspiration behinds Quentin Tarantino’s Cliff Booth character in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood.
Blow this idea up omg
There's a lot of people who brought up why Natalie was on a yacht if she has a debilitating fear of water. I have a similar severe water phobia, but there are degrees to phobias. Some people (like me) can't even look at bodies of water without panicking, others can't even take showers or go in the rain, some can handle pools and baths but not open bodies, some can go on boats or cruises but won't go in water themselves ... by their very nature, phobias are irrational. They don't make sense. Yachts are pretty large boats, so the stability of that inclines me to believe that Natalie didn't mind them, she just wouldn't go in water herself. The dingy does raise questions for me though, as those are clearly more free-floating and the water is much closer to you, but maybe with someone else in the boat (like the captain) it was okay. But lots of people try to dismiss her fear as not that bad because she was okay with yachts, which isn't the case. You can go on a boat and still be terrorized by water. They're not mutually exclusive, but it's not something you can make sense of or explain. RIP Natalie Wood.
'the dumbest fear I've ever heard'
Anatidaephobia : the fear that somewhere, a duck or goose is watching you
when she fell in the water, as a child, she also broke her wrist. Her parents and the film people didn't take her to the hospital. Her wrist became deformed and she wore bracelettes to hide it. Can you imagine living with a broken wrist as a child? She was brought up in the film industry and was somewhat abused. To make her cry the crushed a butterfly in front of her. She supported her entire family at age 9.
That"s bracing insight actually.
BAP PARROTT
My broken wrist went untreated for a long time...hurts a lot
That last sentence was kinda out of place with the rest of what you were saying
@@priyamanobal Not really - her parents had her work so they didn't have to. It's in line with the whole abused-child-star theme.
Rustin Stardust maybe she wanted to be an actress...you know like half the other people in acting.
“Dr. Lakshmanansathyaavagiswaran.” He pronounces that so well on the spot.
well its pronounced wrong...but eh lets give it to him.
Timestamp?
@@poojachavan4151 17:25
C A R I N A thanks :)
But still can’t say February
interesting that just like two days ago (i googled Natalie after watching this video) her sister Lana has released a book (or is just about to?? idk) in it, she basically says Wagner got her blacklisted in the industry and would treat her really badly. she also said that she thinks they "had an alcohol-fueled argument that escalated into a physical confrontation and that wagner delievered a blow to the left side of Natalie's face that knocked her unconscious [...] suddenly, panic-stricken when he realised what he'd done, R.J. made the fatal decision to put Natalie in the water to avoid being held responsible for what had happened."
she also says that she knows "wagner is not going to jail. he's not going to be arrested. he's not going to admit anything." in 2018, (after this video was out) wagner was actually considered a "person of interest" by the police.
i think it makes sense that her statements (that were in this video) weren't reflective of her actual beliefs. he was horrible to her (allegedly, he kicked her and her daughter out of one Natalie's condos that their mother Maria was also living in, after her death) and her trying to be cordial in order to be on decent terms with him is likely what happened.
here's the article that details it: TW for sexuaI assauIt (skip from the photo with lana & natalie + wagner put together, right after it says: "now she has written..." until after the picture of the book cover (its black, says little sister in bold, with a picture of them two) and it says "Lana woke up in her LA home...") nypost.com/2021/11/04/natalie-woods-sister-says-robert-wagner-killed-the-actress/
edit: would also like to add, her mother just doesn't seem like the greatest person. putting the fear of water aside, lana claims some pretty shite incident that occurred (in the article, during the TW for SA section)
replying to boost this in the comments!!
I knew it wasn’t an accident, ppl in these comments are too naive
Boosting comment ^
boosting comment, this is pretty cool
I just CAN'T with their Christopher Walken impressions 😂😂
😂😂 he's so good at it 👍
that mannequin is gonna move oneday I'm telling you.
Oh I'd love it if they just moved the mannequin slightly every time they're about to film a new episode, just to fuck with people. X'D
kawaii potato ikr I was think about that hahah
Hahahaha creepy as hell
kawaii potato ikr I was saying that while I was watching this
They should adjust it between shots.
Ryan pronounced that name like a a baller
Quicksilver Ninja I wonder how many times he practiced it lol.
Quicksilver Ninja good ol' Dr Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran
Quicksilver Ninja i scrolled down the comments just to see yours. Can we clap for him 👏👏👏👏
Quicksilver Ninja lmao
Quicksilver Ninja lmao, since he got criticized on the previous episode I suppose he had practiced hundred of times pronouncing names before shooting this episode
Were ignoring her suicide attempt in the mid 60s I suppose. Also in his LACSD statement, Davern came back to Wagner at the rear deck when he discovered Wood missing after their shouting match and then the subsequent silence. You mention Wagner returned but it’s significantly more alarming to learn after Davern allegedly intervened once to no success, he was the one to check on them again. And then an hour later Wagner was, according to Davern, crying and repeating “She’s gone, she’s gone, she’s gone”
When the clout chaser doesn’t get noticed
why is the suicide attempt relevant? not to be rude, i just dont get it
@@rae6982 right? Like it definitely wasn’t a suicide in this case
12:20 my friend’s mom got tricked into doing heroin because it was laced in a marijuana joint. She was addicted to heroin for years after that. This is a very valid fear to have
“That’s dumbest fear I’ve ever heard.”
Luposlipaphobia: fear of being chased by timber wolves, around a dinner table, wearing socks, on a newly waxed floor.
@Smitty WerbenJagerManJensen I never seen shit like that on acid but Dmt is another story. I've seen king yama and then some demons or jinn lurking in the distance.
The Akumu King I mean that’s interesting
i thought you were joking , so i googled it. wth
@Smitty WerbenJagerManJensen hyaenisaciduphobia
WHAT ABOUT TEROPHOBIA
The fact that they’re all actors probably made this case even harder for police to solve. How do you know if the husband and walker were actually upset and concerned over her death or just acting.
Yeah exactly like try to analyse that th-cam.com/video/N0fm42MGMGc/w-d-xo.html
Hollywood always protects its own.
VeRnSquad5611 damnnnn true
The police were useless in the investigation. They didn't follow basic procedures, likely because they were dealing with celebrities. I can't remember exactly if their mistake was that they neglected to interview Wagner and Walken on the spot, or if they neglected to interview them separately. Either way, the police during this whole investigation were sketchy af.
What are you 12? Actors don't constantly act offscreen for no pay. They have personal lives too
Can we just appreciate how well Ryan said the Dr's name on 17:25 ? Truly amazing
This is STILL my favorite episode of them all, guys. (80% due to the Walken impressions.)
What a bizarre and sad tale.
Plot twist-
It was the fortune teller
*fortune
Stella none of your buisness lol thanks let me change that
💀💀she has probably never predicted anything wrong in her lofe
*life
Your right
so no one's gonna comment on how two witnesses last names' were payne and wayne??
MagentaShade Ö
It’s really not that interesting.
Payne & Wayne sound like a glass moving company
Lol right
@@priyamanobal From all the comments and replies I've seen from you, you must be an insufferable person to know.
Shane, talking about bears: “Pop that thing in the ocean, see how it does!”
I mean, I’m pretty sure a bear in the ocean would go over better than a shark in the woods
Like a polar bear?
But Ryan called it an all terrain predator. Maybe Shane was refuting that point.
But you're right. Bears are more versatile than sharks and other predators, even if they're not all terrain (although I think terrain means land and the sea isn't land, but you know what I mean), and that is a point in their favor.
Or Shane was just trying to annoy Ryan by making specious arguments.
After all, Shane is an INFJ and Ryan is an ISTJ and Se users like being asses to Si users.
17:25 credit to Ryan for actually taking his time to try and say the doctors name correctly
Strange that Natalie is so scared of water she won't wash her hair but then manages to get in a dingy drunk
omfg it's dinghy
Ok
why is that so strange when she did get in a YACHTTT for DAAAYS.
Twilight Bright What if she was forced
Her sister said she was fine with water unless she was swimming in it
I love this buzzfeed unsolved series but I’m always so unsatisfied that they’re actually unsolved💀
Cause its "unsloved mysterious"
Same
That's what makes it good
Well thanks captain obvious
Right?! Like i be sitting here hoping it would be somewhat solved 😂
Shane's heroin fear is pretty legitimate if you're in a state where its the most prominent, especially if your in the mid-east coast of the US. You may never know.
For real, I avoid anything more than weed or booze because what I've ever seen around here.
Yeah I assume you’re from the appalachians/ rust belt, opiates are a huge problem there rn
Not really, no one is going to give you drugs for "free", if they slip it to you it's to rob or assault you, if they hand it to you they want favours, friendship, reputation (even to feel generous). And getting slipped a powerful drug is not going to be a pleasant experienced you'd want to repeat. Plus I know people took heroin once by "accident" -they had bought it as another drug- & they were never interested in doing it again, certainly not hooked.....& before all the "how to you accidentally shoot heroin" questions come through...you know you can eat or smoke it too right? And apparently, you can still puke from eating, cuz they did. Still a nightmare though, DON'T DO DRUGS!
I know someone who took heroin without realizing it. He was horrified when he tested positive for it and tried to figure out how it got in his system. Shane's fear isn't so uncalled for.
U guys need to do one on Marilyn Monroe
Rivora Sebastian frrr
Pretty sure they did
@@jaymeeleighjx1x I don't think so hun, I believe they did JFK but I'm pretty sure they'd made some references to their love affair so that is probably why you thought they did, for a minute I'm like yeah I think they did do Marilyn! then I remembered it was the JFK episode lol
She died of an overdose didn’t she?
TrumpetQueen 33 Many people believe she was murdered because of her alleged affair with the president
Shane and Ryan: *talking about bears*
Shane: put one of them in the ocean, see how that goes
Polar bears: am I a joke to you?
Lolol oh yeah true 😂
I was looking for thid comment and now I've found it
I think bears in general are good swimmers
I’m surprised Ryan didn’t say well take a shark out of water see how that goes 😂
I think he means like in the middle of the ocean lol they wouldn't do well with just swimming alone.
I think the boys should redub this entire episode with the walken voice, it fits so well
My theory: Wood accidentally fell into the water due to being intoxicated while her, Wagner, and Walken were all hanging out. It might have been trying to get to the dingy to spite Wagner or they were all gonna go on the dingy and were encouraging her to join them (could have been a multitude of reasons to be around the dingy when drunk). Once in the water she immediately went into a panic and started screaming for help. Wagner, drunk himself and annoyed by their earlier fight, thinks she's being over dramatic and is embarrassed by the whole situation in front of Walken. Maybe he thinks she's trying to get attention or making a mountain out of s molehill. So he says something like "alright alright calm down we'll get ya out hold tight" (that phrase the captain overheard). He's kinda rolling his eyes like "ugh stop being so dramatic and embarrassing." Low and behold he doesn't act quick enough to help her out and she starts to sink and doesn't come back up. Wagner and Walken are both in shock and it dawns on them in that moment that the situation they were just chuckling about/brushing off has just become fatal. They both realize they just watched her drown, and didn't do enough to save her. Fearing that their lack of quick action would look really bad in court, they in a daze pretend to have not seen her in a while, and possibly untie the dingy to make it look like they weren't around when she fell in. They justify it to themselves, because after all they didn't actually kill her. It truly was an accident so they don't want to be framed or go to jail, heck they were really drunk themselves and didn't realize that she was in actual danger. But they hold onto to the guilt forever that they could have actually saved her had they took the situation more seriously. I think this theory makes the most sense based on what the captain heard and how Wagner and Walken both acted afterwards. And sadly this type of thing happens all the time, where people are being drunk or silly about something and then it becomes fatal instantly, shocking everyone involved and people don't know how to respond.
This is a good theory
Umm possible .. still doesnt explain the bruises
I know this comments is old but Woods body and the dingy were found close by. If Wagner and Walkens had let the dingy off after she drowned her body most likely wouldn’t have floated the same direction
@@chhandakarmakar4426 it could be that its just natural bruises from her maybe hitting something in the water or just from falling in too hard. i’ve even gotten bruises from jumping into a pool and hitting the water too hard. but still just a little theory.
Nah, it was more intentional than that. The guys had more involvement.
for a guy who can't pronounce February you said the chief medical examiner's name suprisingly well
To be honest he butchered it
@@aneethasalim5814 He said all the letters in order without hesitation which is pretty impressive. if it uses a different pronunciation or transliteration schema or syllable emphasis he would be unfamiliar with dunno how that could be described as butchering?
@@Souledex he did quite well for a foreigner but as a South Indian I couldn't bear to hear it
@@aneethasalim5814 true, same here
@@aneethasalim5814 yeah i know how you feel, it feels cringy when Americans pronounce foreign names 😂
I think Shane's fear of heroin is rational. Sounds like something possible in LA
Atqiya Syed Atlanta, Georgia
Nah only something in downtown LA, or OC
I agree
i have the exact same fear it legit
i use to have a roommate where that kinda happened. Only his "buddies" had laced his weed with heroin and told him they had after he had smoked
I was 7 years old at the time when this happened. I remember my older sister saying that Robert Wagner killed her on account of his affair with Stephanie Powers. At the time I had no idea who these people were. But over time I can now see that my sister may have been more correct than she could have known.
The coroner was the same coroner they had for Marilyn Monroe. It was if he was the coroner to the stars...Just sayin'... And YES Hart to Hart was a huge hit. I remember when it was on.
Natalie Wood: Spends most of her life afraid of deep water, having been prophesied to die from drowning.
Also Natalie Wood: Gets incredibly drunk on a boat with her jealous husband and the man he was jealous of. Also, apparently never learns how to swim.
Christopher Walken: Is Christopher Walken.
what's your point? that doesn't explain for sure how she died or if one of those guys didn't kill her.... but yeah let's blame the victim and not the men getting drunk over who gets to bang her
BOYS
Powdered Toast Man THE PAWTY’S HEREAH
Cowbell
You hear someone scream "someone please help me!" And you think it's just some wasted party goers? And then you also hear someone mocking the person asking for help and you don't think something isn't adding up?
Maybe they didn't want to seem curious, but in that case it wouldn't have hurt.
But she might have screamed that while trying to get on the boat again after (at least that's what I guess) they / he beat her up and threw her into the water.
EXACTLY!!! I don't care if you think it's serious or not. If someone is calling for help GO SEE IF THEY NEED HELP!!! You could save someone's life by checking things out, or kill them by ignoring their call.
Theonewiththe Dreams ir
The way he had created a perfect story is so suspicious. It's like he had it prepared.
I'm here to validate Shane's heroin fear. There's a park in my town where all the drug addicts inject. I've seen numerous needles when walking through, and I'm frequently scared a drug addict will leap out behind a bush and stab me in the arm or neck with a heroin needle. My only relief is the unlikelihood of a drug addict wasting their drugs on me. Unless they're so high they don't know what's going on.
I think he threw her in the water to “torture” her in a fit of rage, then they couldn’t collect her due to the dark waters. “Help me...!!!!!!”
“Okay,...we will get you!”
@@GlamourBella 2
This is actually plausable. Why hasn't this comment got much more attention?
How do you explain her wearing a parka, then?
Juan Wick they should have looked into that more but they didn’t because of how much she drank but I think that the idea makes much more sense
@@juanwick8335 because it is sexist and been prove false already www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8594972/amp
Crocodiles are the apex predator
1. Surviving an apocalypse scale event
2. Unchanged for millions of years
3. Underestimated speed,crit,block ect
4. Big snappy boi's
Terrible flexibility, can't defend attacks from behind very well. Bad skin
BIG SNAPPY BOI’S...I will forever use that now to describe crocodiles 😊
Land and water proof
Wait there was an apacolyps that I just slept through or som'm? The heck?
walk in zig zags and them bois are finished
Some random person: Imagine trying to learn to swim and drowning.
Natalie: *phobia activated*
Anyone here watching these videos for free after the Watcher channel announced they're leaving youtube?
one and a half minutes into the video
Ryan: fortune teller predicted she would die of drowning
me: the fortune teller drowned her to make the prediction come true
🤣
Imfao your pfp matches with your comment
Plot twist, the fortune teller was Wagner all along
The fortune teller: No need to thank me
Lol That's what I thought
I think it was her husband. He was WAY too over-confident in explaining what “must” have happened.
OK BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMEr
I agree.
We all know if you are innocent of something like this ( meaning in this case that Robert supposedly didn’t see her go overboard), then you just say I don’t know what happened cause I wasn’t there.
You don’t posit a detailed account -that is exactly the same as collaborators getting their false story straight.
In this case it’s Wagner collaborating with himself.
Also I own a 36 foot boat and you can hear everything on it and people are always aware of what other people on the boat are doing. It’s almost like being in a car together.
Obviously there was some intense jealousy at play and it’s just way too easy to say something was an accident. Even if she “accidentally” “slipped” its murder to not have “intentionally” saved her.
okay so i hear what you are saying, but the way my mind works, if i cant explain something, i have to be able to rationalize it in some way. i have done very similar things to that before and it always makes me look like in guilty of something, even though i cant help myself but try and explain it. so it isnt impossible that he killed her, but it also isnt that far fetched that that is what happened
i think it's just the way he worded it, that's how old people speak. nothing more to it
and a long delay too....hmmmmmmmm
I commented when I watched this before, but I forgot everything, so thought I'd give it another look and here is my theory for how that night may have played out based on the evidence and testimonies:
For one thing, the conflicting testimonies can likely be explained away by the amount of alcohol consumed--but what we *do* know is that Wood and Wagner fought that night. It's possible Walken may have failed to notice any tension still between the two upon seeing them later on (possibly in a lull in the argument) and assumed that it was resolved when it was still not; alternatively, it's possible that Davern's memory, being imperfect from the night of drinking, altered itself/filled in the gaps in such a manner as to fit the theory of her death being a homicide--a theory that one might be likely to grab onto in lieu of such a tragic accident, especially one with so few known details and involving a close friend.
Regardless of how or when the fight may have concluded, it's not unreasonable to assume that Wood likely would have been distressed after the fight regardless of it's conclusion, which could cloud her judgement even further while already under the influence of the alcohol. She could have intended to mirror her actions from the night prior when she and Davern had taken the dhingy to shore, but in her current state, forgotten that he wasn't there with her again, giving her a false sense of security while attempting to board the dhingy and get away (which would explain her having had the time to grab a coat, though she may not have considered her state of dress otherwise in her state).
A similar but darker version of this series of events might have Wagner going so far as to pursue Wood out of the room while they argued, driving her to hastily attempt to escape to shore without waiting or calling for someone to help (again, more likely in her not only inebriated but possibly adrenaline-fueled state), which might also explain the framing of his own theory that she slipped while messing with the ropes (though in fairness, the level of detail in his theory could also simply be a result of overthinking the number of possibilities after a mysterious tragic accident, same as my suggestion with Davern's theory).
Either way, it's clear that whatever the circumstances of her boarding or attempting to board the dhingy may have been, she somehow took a tumble and was unable to climb aboard despite her attempts. It's possible this even happened some ways from the yacht--perhaps as she struggled to figure out how to turn it on--which could explain why she may have cried for help but only been heard or acknowledged by a neighboring boat, while the reply heard may have been someone from the party failing to take the situation seriously in their own state. Additionally, the fact that she was heard to have called "Someone, help me!" rather than addressing a specific person drives me to believe that there was likely no one she knew well immediately present when she fell--though I can't speak for everyone of course, I think if I were in her position and being attacked, I'd still be more likely to either call the name of someone else on the boat, as they're the people she's most familiar with and would trust most to help; or even the person attacking, both because they'd be at the forefront of her mind and also with the possibility of trying to snap them to their senses (think how many times you say the name of the person you're fighting during a heated argument, or even just say it once on it's own).
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Anyway, this is my perspective on what may have happened that night--if anyone has anything to add or contradict what I've said, please reply; I'd love to hear some more thoughts :)
shane’s walken impression makes this my fav episode
Lol seems like everyone on that boat was in love with Wood.
And why not? She was very attractive.
ngl she was a very attractive and warm person
Seems like Wood was more into Walken than the other way around.
Can you blame them tho
Sis was pretty
imagine how proud the fortune teller is that they got her fortune right..
@@NilePeoples-xd1od she's a secretly a serial killer, that would be the best plot twist ever
Or could you imagine if she was just a hack, then read the newspaper after her death and was just like, "...oh."
@R S lol she's actually her husband and the captain of the boat, she's a shapeshifter
fr lMao I would be off the walls
I guess statistically one was bound to be correct eventually.
Their impressions of Christopher Walken make me come back to this episode all the time
I think Walken was right in saying that "it was an accident" but what kind of accident is the question. I believe while Wagner and Wood were fighting, he might have accidentally pushed her into the water which would explain why the neighbors heard a scream for help. In a state of panic, Wagner probably didn't know what to do and watched her as she drowned...
If she had a phobia of water, why would she get on a yacht, let alone, for multiple days?
Because even though she was afraid of water, Natalie felt that if she were on a secure yacht with professionals who knew how to handle a yacht then she felt safe and didn't worry about the water as much
cutielover01 well I have an ocean phobia too except mine is no where near as bad as hers but I'm still way to scared to get on a yacht or boat even with trained professionals there so I dint know how she did it
Ikr I thought so to
cutielover01 I guess that makes sense. It was just fishy to me.
She stated in a TV interview that she was okay on a boat, on the water; being in the water was what terrified her.
IS NO ONE GOING TO COMMENT OUT "JOHN PAYNE AND MARILYN WAYNE" that's the ULTIMATE couple name
madeline johannes I WAS SEARCHING FOR THIS COMMENT 😂
Gypsy Rose Lee is the foremother of modern burlesque performer. Natalie played Gypsy Rose Lee in the biopic, Gypsy. It is a sensational film that got her out of her “child actor” phase; like most woman crave when they become an adult after growing up as a child celebrity.
BINGE watching, playing in the background of my work days painting portraits. Thanks for all the rad content!
Wagner having a very "hyper detailed" description of what happened is the equivalent of OJ's book If I Did It. He's like I didn't do it but here's what happened.
the thing is, and i hate to have to mention this, that book wasn't actually written by o.j. but by a journalist called Dominick Dunne
@@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 he didn't write it but he agreed to say he did - for money. Also it was based on "discussions with him" as one of the ghost writers Pablo Fenvjes said. Fenvjes was also present at the 1995 murder trial. What's fascinating and weird is that Dunne's daughter Dominique Dunne was murdered by her ex partner. It's earie how similar these cases are.
@@supermenka0 oh, i knew i didn't have all the details but that makes that book much more damning on him then if that's the case. i think we can all agree O.J. was an idiot, and very likely a bad person
@@supermenka0 What ever happened to Simpsons son Jason?
;)
omg that damn OJ book just makes me mad.
shane my father actually WAS tricked into doing heroine because he was told it was cocaine.
is your dad okay?
👁👄👁
What....is-is he okay...?
Sarah g that’s like being tricked to drink beer because you were told it was apple juice
I uh- WHAT
@@beetlebub4460 😅
17:25 can we just take a moment and clap for ryan for pronouncing this without stuttering
I think she fell into the water with the others around and they took it as her overreacting when she was crying for help. She probably went under before they got her out and all decided to stay quiet about it due to their guilty conscious from not taking her seriously
Your pronunciation of Dr. Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran is the funniest thing I've ever heard 😂😂😂
AnIndianGirl lol dude ikr
It was quite a good attempt tho wasn't it 😂
Svikira This is not Icelandic I have never heard that word or name anywhere here on Iceland 😂
Imagine 21 Crybabies At The Disco I think it's indian but the way he pronounced it is funny as hell
AnIndianGirl wasn't it right? It sounds right
I'm soooo afraid that I will do a hardcore drug like that, I get Shane's fear 100%
Same
Sydney P I wasn't before watching this episode but I damn sure am now
Sydney P heroine's great though
Mackenzie Latham I prefer heroin but I hear heroine is great too.
Stacks I fucked up.
Fortune teller: "your daughter will drown to death"
Mother: "Okay, I won't teach her how to swim"
Daughter: *Drowns in a situation that probably could've been prevented by knowing how to swim*
Mother: "honestly that fortune teller was right on the money there is nothing I could've done differently to prevent this."
Stephanie Harlow did a deep dive into this case, with a large focus on her up bringing and her hugely abusive mother. After this I'd highly suggest watching Stephanie's video on this case
When Shane is wearing those sunglasses he looks like the artist rendition of D.B COOPER
a subtle confession?
I KNEW IT!! Somebody pick up that phone! Because I called it!!
@@Phoebe5448
*picks up phone*
Uh, hello? Hello hello?
@@hopesworld9850 "Hey, how's it going."
@@Phoebe5448
"Uh, pretty good, just finished a scrapbook session at 3 am"
Bad police work and lack of common sense or reasoning. Clearly.... Wagner was mad, jealous and drunk; knowing of her fear of the water, he forced her on the boat, untied it and let her float away. Hence the bruises + people hearing her screaming. She was scared out of her mind and wagner was taunting her. She ended up in the water and drowned.
If she was screaming loudly and near the yacht why wouldnt Cavern help her who has obviously feelings for her. Why wouldnt anyone except Wagner help her?
Kaffe Genuss They were all drunk and not using their names.
Not using their names? U say they played a little game this night? What I'm saying is that if a girl is screaming regardless if she is screaming names or for help, people just turn and want to know what is happening.
Wasn't Christopher walken with wagner the all time, discussing politics? Idk the theory that wagner did it, it a probably to me, what it's annoying me it's if wagner did all of that, shouldn't the captain or walker hear something?
Kaffe Genuss Ahh sorry autocorrect lol, I ment brains oh god. anyways, I'm not in the mood to start a real discussion about this sorry. they all were pretty drunk and might have just thought she was screaming for no reason/at her husband. I don't know.
How he just said "Lakshamanan Sathyavagiswaran" with such ease & confidence leads me to believe he practiced, a lot. Lol.
Walkens monologue about "the watch" in pulp fiction is legendary.
You aced that guy's name.
KinqUni aquino but not "February" 😂
lmao
KinqUni aquino So true
KinqUni aquino how did he do it so perfectly
Anounomus: you need to say it in a Russian accent in a Hispanic way blah blah blah blah
Ikr😂
Can we talk about how nun of them heard her screaming help me when they were closer than the witness who did hear her 🤨
i was thinking the same thing!
Exactly! Walken knows too but just didn't want to get involved. Cowards.
that part was sus to me as well, you'd think they'd have heard something
Unless they were too drunk and dont remember
Well I actually understand that since that also happens with me sometimes, like for example when I'm really concentrated with the yt video I'm watching, even without earphones I wasn't able to hear my guardian scolding me repeatedly about stuff. After that they'll just tell me that I'm "nagbibingi-bingihan" or in english is like "deafening" (I don't know that's what google translate said, it doesn't seem to have a proper english translation) and they're all angry that I'm pretending to not listen to them when in reality I just wasn't hearing them.
Robert Wagner is an Academy award winner when he's not on screen . The police believed everything he said but not the words of the Captain who heard and saw everything . Christopher Walken does not talk because he knows too much .
I think it was some kind of domestic abuse or heavy argument followed by her trying to leave while very emotional and drunk, the emotional hurt might’ve been enough to overwhelm her fear in such a drunken state. That just seems like the simplest answer I can think of.
HOW THE HELL DID RYAN PRONOUNCE THAT DOCTORS NAME AT 17:25
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW
THANK YOU OMG WTF
PaNiC! aT tHe beEbo ikr and I missed Beebos livestream .-.
I think he did some rehearsals before
He can pronounce that but can't pronounce February or Newfoundland lmao
I've never understood why the captain wasn't investigated more. He repeatedly lied during his testimonies, he had access to the dinghy, Natalie trusted him. Imo he's more suspicious than Robert.
Adeeba Ruhul true that’s what I was thinking
Robert asked the captain not to turn on running lights nor the engine. So he just assumes his drunk, non-swimming ass, horrified of water wife is ok missing on the water and the captain shows more concern and less of a possessive interest in her. Even if he did secretly want to schtup her it was Robert Wagner who quarrelled with her and was jealous because she and Walken got along so well. Robert came back alone to the boat sweaty as if he had been in a struggle. The only exception is it was a good idea not to suddenly start the engine because if she had been swimming up to the boat she could have come in contact with the props, even so, why no lights to search? Also, she was going to go without her husband to go hang out with not one but two men, one of which she worked with a lot and was rumoured to be very fond of, obsessed even. Motive: Robert. The captain had a motive to have flimsy story = Highly paid actors paying you to sail them around. Tough choice when everything he saw would seem perfectly domestic and dare I say, Normal.
That’s due to the fact that Robert paid him a hell of a lot of money to keep his mouth shut
@@marcoferrari1995 Any proof of that?
French Soldier I’m sure if you dig you could come up with something but if someone did kill her they definitely didn’t want anyone to find out.
Ryan's ability to say these medical examiners name's.... Next level
This case is like a full on game of Clue. Its a murder mystery game in itself.
Person: deathly afraid of water
Same person: *actively spends weekends on yatch's surrounded by water*
Julian B.F Makes sense
yes well the fear of drowning is a lot more present when we're actually in the water or feel like we have little to no safety (or belief of safety) rather than when we're out of it
also never learns to swim
Logic
Wolfie Chan Indeed
Ryan: ghosts are real. Shane: irrational. Also Shane: someone might run up behind me and stab me with heroin! Ryan: 😑
Gabbie Simpson people just don't do that, thats totally fucking insane. Heroin addicts never would do that, they are not buying it to just give away by stabbing someone sheesh. Also heroin does not addict you right away anyhow thats little kid after school special bullshit they say to scare kids, sheesh.
If you loved your wife who had a great fear of water and drowning...would you buy a yacht and convince your wife to go boating with you????
@12:12 i relate to shane so much here. my worst fear is being drugged. my father was an alcoholic and my sister used to do heroine. i've seen what substance abuse/addiction does to someone and it terrifies me.
The editing is so underrated. Awesome as always!
SO TRUE
Omg I didn't expect this amount of likes :O thanks
"Pop that thing in the ocean"
Polar Bear: Am I a joke to you?
Most drown cause global warming
Oof, and let's be honest, try to pop a shark onto land and see how well that goes
polor bars are extremely good swimmers they can hold their breath and catch a fish or two, a shark would die of dehydration before starvation and suffocation
Paralynx
Sharknado 👀👀👀
I’ll tell you what. Bears can’t win against other animals of similar size. A hippo could wreck a bear.
My friends dad was one of the detectives on this case. He said they make some pretty terrible jokes like “I though I saw some drift wood floating, but it was actually Natalie wood” and “Natalie said she was gonna shower before bed but she decided to wash up on the beach instead”
did the detectives make these jokes?
wow so funny…. ?
Fear of being ramdomly jabbed with a cocaine needle is definitely real. Shane, I get you.
how does ryan not know how to pronounce february but he can pronounce Dr. Lakshmanan Sathyavaginswaran
FOR REAL
No one really knows how he pronounced it...I guess it will remain...unsolved.
What pisses me off is I can't pronounce it correctly when it's written in English alphabets but I can when it's written in the Devanagari Script.
He did not pronounce it correct. Not even close..
Kadence Gillespey I
"Do you not know how love works?"
"mAybE i dOnT"
"That makes alot of sEnSe actually"
that wasnt love tho. wagner got her back with psychological tricks. these sorts of tricks are manipulative and dangerous, especially on women. he even kept the tricks going during their marriage, making her jealous and angry. THAT was NOT love.
I was looking for this comment thanks
Best part
I understand Shane in the heroin fear. For me, it’s not just heroin, it’s any drug. The fear is more of when you’re maybe walking alone at night and suddenly people grab you and don’t let you move and then inject you with a drug and become addict to it. It’s not that someone’s just gonna stick it in and that’s it.
“Do you not know how love works?” Lmao great line, truly makes you do crazy things