I think the magnet for the pen is in the middle where the indication symbol is. If you put the pen there it will “stick” more. Love the comparison! I have bought my self a couple to try with the Air 2 Plus
Very good video. Thanks for making. Loved it. I think Wacom and lami are my favs now. I further need to know if I can switch off the pen by the button. Also if I can turn a page using the button.
Thank you ! No need to switch off the pen as they does not need any battery. Turning the page with the button of the pen is software feature, so it should be possible but as far as I know none tablet has implement that.
One thing that never really gets adequately covered with reviews and descriptions of these pens is... which ones need their styluses regularly replacing and which ones don't. My Onyx Boox max came with the pen featured at 20:10 and had a hard plastic nib - I have been using the pen and tablet for three years now and it still does not need a nib replacement. The Onyx Nova colour came with the pen featured at 14:01 which is utter garbage - the included nib barely lasted 4 weeks and they don't provide any replacement nibs in pack, and they have the cheek to charge over £15 for just five of those same crappy nibs. If I could, I would just buy a couple more of their old pens and I would never need replacements. I bought E-Ink writers to replace paper and pen but if they still require expensive consumables then I already wasted my money buying the damn tablet in the first place. I could consider one of these other pens but I don't know if they have hard plastic nibs or not as their product descriptions never say if the material is quickly degradable or not. All I want is a stylus with a hard plastic nib that never needs replacing, so long as it has an eraser button that will work with Onyx products.
For permanent nibs you can consider the supernote products. For the other nibs/pen, it depends on how you are writing but you can consider that felt nibs (the ones that provide the "paper feel" sensation last less longer than hard ones...
Fantastic review, best I've seen and don't need to watch any more now; thanks muchly : ) This is the only video any consumer needs to watch under the aegis of: "BEST STYLUS/ONYX BOOX/REMARKABLE 2", as you compared only the premium and most popular branded models we're considering; 'road-tested' while detailing an extraordinary range of differing specs, designs and features -and yet those 7 models vying for our $ vary significantly in visual aesthetic, dimensions, some features and build quality and finish. Enjoyed the mysterious particular qualms and quirks which occasionally presented themselves between the 2 tablets, using the same stylus. Appreciated very much your advance prep to give us a running heads-up on each model's weight and length (inc Lamy length and weight sans cap), and to get all of the above so right (which would still rate as one of the best reviews out there), it's also a pleasure when a reviewer understand that for some viewers secondary features like Will it roll away if on a slight slope? - or - Does it sort-of adhere magnetically to tablet's leading edge? - and - If magnetised, how sturdy is the bond? As you mentioned on several occasions, despite each stylus's supplied nib differing sometimes extensively in 'pen on paper' texture and feel, as smooth, hard glass prefers a draggy nib and textured glass or a soft protector film will prefer a harder and smoother slippery one (stylus weight must have some affect on the equation as well) - ERGO the nib 'feel' will differ tremendously, these styli are ALL interchangeable with the nib from ANY other --- so thank you so much for spending bulk of review on each stylus's look, finger grip, balance and those passive and active features, as the KEY here is get the stylus that suits your taste, hand size, 'must-have' features and, if it's a deal-breaker; budget. Nib 'feel', size, colour, end-shape etc is IRRELEVANT - just listen for clues as to which stylus is best for what job VS that stylus's writing 'feel' for your tablet, and then have fun ordering this or that nib from Staedler, Samsung, HP, BOOX etc until you arrive at the sweet-spot that's best for the stylus, tablet, your grip, speed, pressure and feedback expectations - and you have arrived. Thanks again. - GALDR/URUZ/FYRFOS/ÆSIR (ENVOI\FUTHARK) = IT MEK : ) -
I use Spen on my S7 galaxy tab. My favorite one is the Wacom one stylus, I also like the staetdler Stylus, unfortunately there is no side buttton, nor cap provided ti protect the nib. (neither on the one one stylus) The original S7 or S6 Spen are also good, only if you put a silicone housing on it, because these styluses are a bit too thin to my liking.... I found the Lamy al star EMR stylus a bit too heavy and thick, and the side button is too hard to find...
This man loves his pens! 😁 Q: I am one of those who seem grip their pen right near the tip, yet i have quite stiff fingers. If i had to flip a coin. To try first. Would you suggest the lamy, or the One? Thanks for the video👌
The Lamy. Because it's a "real" pen (metal, cap, clip,...). The One is really good too but with it's form factor, not sure you can greep the pen enough close to the nip as you like.
hello! I bought the Wacom one after watching that video, thank you so much I love it! That said I'm not able to set up the side button as an eraser, do you have a suggestion on how to do it?
thank you very much for this super informative and well done video ☺️ I have the stadtler and i love the look and the ereaser, but the nibs are too soft for my taste. I loved the „harder“ writing experience with the boox stylus. could you possibly tell me, which pen has a harder and precise nib? Maybe the wacom one? Thank you very much in advance
Hello, excellent comparision. Are Wacom One or LAMY pens going to be compatible and work for other model of ONYX BOOX, like Nova Air, or recent Nova Air C?
You mean in the video ? I can't remember because I like changing nibs. I preper more "paper like" nibs (wacom or HP or remarkable,...) better than the Lamy ones.
amazing exhaustive review. Thanks for this. super in depth and was interesting to hear how the EMR tech works at the start too edit: also amazing english. je peux parler en francais mais pas comme tu peux parler en anglais 😂
Hi. The Samsung S pen has a plastic nib which wears out very slowly. Will it not harm the RM screen? Bcz default RM pens have nibs made of paper type material which wear out.
Thanks this was really good. I have a Samsung S6. My opinion is the same as you, the stylus is a bit small and I use the erase button a lot. I'm looking for a better stylus.
@@onemoreink3654 I just got a Lamy Al-start and so far I'm happy. The button is a little too far back away from the nib but it seems OK. I have a number of Parker ball point pens and always thought they were a bit thin, but the Lamy seems just the right size; so I'll probably by an ink Lamy as well.
regarding illustration, dos the hp zbook one feel any more "light"? i own the wacom one pen but it feels it needs more force to be activated in my experience
I am not sure to understand. No need for those pens to put "pressure" on the surface : it starts writing once the nib is in contact with the pen. Some brushes manage the pressure (force) you can put on your pen in order to manage the thickness of the line but it is not an "activation".
Does onyx boox note air 2 plus has a tilt function like remarkable 2(when i can make wide texture line)? I cant find this feature in many reviews for onyx , and saw it only on remarkable ans kindle scribe
How can i arrange that small plastic part on the remarkable mark plus. Any idea? if i have to buy a new pen, id like to try another one. I really really like the remarkable marker but its too much fragile for me. I use the remarkable 2, which one will u recommend me?
If you like the eraser, you can try the staedtler jumbo : it can be compatible with RM nibs with a little hack (see my video). The HP Zbook X2 pen is also a really good pen but hard to find. If you need à "not fragile" pen, the Lamy EMR is the good choise, but it does not have the eraser.
Hi ! I like Lamy but I don't like the cap. So I would go the Samsung. Which could be the best nib for a Onyx Note Air? It could work with other nibs or has to be with Onyx one?
Thanks for sharing. I needed exactly that kind of tips. I'm still hesitating though, between Lamy, wacom and samsung. According to your experiment, can you tell me the one which offers the best control and is the closest of the paper feeling, please? I'd like to be able to sketch and take effective notes with it. Thank you!
The paper feel depends on the nib, not the pen itself. I like the Lamy because it is not fragile. The Samsung is pleasant for small hands and if you like lightweight pens. The Wacom is good too, very ergonomic!
I really like that onyx boox round tip pen. It looks more like a ballpoint and less like a stylus, which appeals to me. Plus it has the eraser and side button, something that exceedingly hard to find for a reasonable price these days.
I have Wacom one in my hand and the Lamy all star is on the way. I have a question, are the nibs from these two stylus are comparability to each other?
I do not like pencil paper friction feel when writing I like a smooth low friction writing. What pen do you recommend that feels like a low friction smooth ballpoint pen on paper?
PC/EL if you do no like the "paper feel" at all. The good thing with the Lamy is that you can change your nibs later if you do not like the feeling. Remarkable nibs are, for example, compatible.
Nice effort and very useful. I have the two Staedtler pens and like them very much. My preference is for the jumbo on account of the eraser function. Also, replacement nibs are easy to find and are good value. The Lamy is on my wish list pending a weak moment. Cheers.
Hi can you please help me? I have a wacom intuos pen & touch tablet ( old version) but i lost the pen and i can't find one to buy it . What should i buy ( compatible with my tablet) ? Please reply me Thank you
Sorry but i'm really not a specialist in all the Wacom products...I am sure that you can find the compatibilty on the Wacom website. Do you think that your tablet has Wacom EMR technology ?
@@onemoreink3654 it s not a screen tablet i have to connect it to the pc draw on it and shows on the pc and because it s okd i didn't find the compatibility on the wacom
@@onemoreink3654 2018 models† feature 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity and a resolution of 2540 lines per inch[10][11][12][13] (1000 lines/cm). Each of the models have a 5.8 × 3.6 in (14.7 × 9.2 cm) active surface area, a weight of 290 ±50g, and 4 control buttons. Intuos tablets feature a battery-free pen (powered by the same EMR (Electromagnetic resonance) technology as the Intuos Pro line), which can be used alongside finger swipes (in some models), with ± 0.02 in (± 0.5 mm) accuracy. Each tablet includes an option to switch orientation for left- or right-handed users.[citation needed]
The intuos pen technology is different from s pen style stylus technology, despite both are developed and patented by the same company. Also the pen for eavh intuos revision is incompatible with each other. The only models that the pens are cross generation supported is the intuos pro and Cintiq lines. Therefore, you need to buy the original intuos pen & touch pens. You cannot replace it with any other pens, including different models of Wacom.
ca dépend vraiment des gouts de chacun. Moi j'aime bien avoir une gomme donc je dirais le Marker plus ou le HP. Si le bouton latéral fonctionnait sans hacker la tablette, j'aurais dit le WACOM One.
wow!!!! what an in depth review. Thankyou ))
This was very helpful. Thanks!
very informative and non-biased comparison video.
Well done and thank you sir.
Thank you for watching
Excellent delivery~ exactly the things I wished to know. Looking forward to more E-ink related news-reviews.
Thank you!
I think the magnet for the pen is in the middle where the indication symbol is. If you put the pen there it will “stick” more.
Love the comparison! I have bought my self a couple to try with the Air 2 Plus
Thank you for showing the pressure accuracy! No one shows this and it's very important to me
This was a more than awesome Review, and also a teaching resource!
If you had to choose one pen which would you pick?
Very good video. Thanks for making. Loved it. I think Wacom and lami are my favs now. I further need to know if I can switch off the pen by the button. Also if I can turn a page using the button.
Thank you ! No need to switch off the pen as they does not need any battery. Turning the page with the button of the pen is software feature, so it should be possible but as far as I know none tablet has implement that.
One thing that never really gets adequately covered with reviews and descriptions of these pens is... which ones need their styluses regularly replacing and which ones don't. My Onyx Boox max came with the pen featured at 20:10 and had a hard plastic nib - I have been using the pen and tablet for three years now and it still does not need a nib replacement.
The Onyx Nova colour came with the pen featured at 14:01 which is utter garbage - the included nib barely lasted 4 weeks and they don't provide any replacement nibs in pack, and they have the cheek to charge over £15 for just five of those same crappy nibs. If I could, I would just buy a couple more of their old pens and I would never need replacements. I bought E-Ink writers to replace paper and pen but if they still require expensive consumables then I already wasted my money buying the damn tablet in the first place.
I could consider one of these other pens but I don't know if they have hard plastic nibs or not as their product descriptions never say if the material is quickly degradable or not. All I want is a stylus with a hard plastic nib that never needs replacing, so long as it has an eraser button that will work with Onyx products.
For permanent nibs you can consider the supernote products. For the other nibs/pen, it depends on how you are writing but you can consider that felt nibs (the ones that provide the "paper feel" sensation last less longer than hard ones...
@@onemoreink3654 Ok thanks for the tip (pardon the pun)
Fantastic review, best I've seen and don't need to watch any more now; thanks muchly : )
This is the only video any consumer needs to watch under the aegis of: "BEST STYLUS/ONYX BOOX/REMARKABLE 2", as you compared only the premium and most popular branded models we're considering; 'road-tested' while detailing an extraordinary range of differing specs, designs and features -and yet those 7 models vying for our $ vary significantly in visual aesthetic, dimensions, some features and build quality and finish. Enjoyed the mysterious particular qualms and quirks which occasionally presented themselves between the 2 tablets, using the same stylus.
Appreciated very much your advance prep to give us a running heads-up on each model's weight and length (inc Lamy length and weight sans cap), and to get all of the above so right (which would still rate as one of the best reviews out there), it's also a pleasure when a reviewer understand that for some viewers secondary features like Will it roll away if on a slight slope? - or - Does it sort-of adhere magnetically to tablet's leading edge? - and - If magnetised, how sturdy is the bond?
As you mentioned on several occasions, despite each stylus's supplied nib differing sometimes extensively in 'pen on paper' texture and feel, as smooth, hard glass prefers a draggy nib and textured glass or a soft protector film will prefer a harder and smoother slippery one (stylus weight must have some affect on the equation as well) - ERGO the nib 'feel' will differ tremendously, these styli are ALL interchangeable with the nib from ANY other --- so thank you so much for spending bulk of review on each stylus's look, finger grip, balance and those passive and active features, as the KEY here is get the stylus that suits your taste, hand size, 'must-have' features and, if it's a deal-breaker; budget.
Nib 'feel', size, colour, end-shape etc is IRRELEVANT - just listen for clues as to which stylus is best for what job VS that stylus's writing 'feel' for your tablet, and then have fun ordering this or that nib from Staedler, Samsung, HP, BOOX etc until you arrive at the sweet-spot that's best for the stylus, tablet, your grip, speed, pressure and feedback expectations - and you have arrived.
Thanks again.
- GALDR/URUZ/FYRFOS/ÆSIR (ENVOI\FUTHARK) = IT MEK : ) -
Thank you very much for your feedback !
I use Spen on my S7 galaxy tab.
My favorite one is the Wacom one stylus, I also like the staetdler Stylus, unfortunately there is no side buttton, nor cap provided ti protect the nib. (neither on the one one stylus)
The original S7 or S6 Spen are also good, only if you put a silicone housing on it, because these styluses are a bit too thin to my liking....
I found the Lamy al star EMR stylus a bit too heavy and thick, and the side button is too hard to find...
Hey man all those stylus shown in video does they work on Samsung S7+.
This man loves his pens! 😁
Q: I am one of those who seem grip their pen right near the tip, yet i have quite stiff fingers.
If i had to flip a coin. To try first. Would you suggest the lamy, or the One?
Thanks for the video👌
The Lamy. Because it's a "real" pen (metal, cap, clip,...). The One is really good too but with it's form factor, not sure you can greep the pen enough close to the nip as you like.
hello! I bought the Wacom one after watching that video, thank you so much I love it! That said I'm not able to set up the side button as an eraser, do you have a suggestion on how to do it?
Cool ! Thx! What is your device ?
@@onemoreink3654 I have a remarkable 2!
thank you very much for this super informative and well done video ☺️
I have the stadtler and i love the look and the ereaser, but the nibs are too soft for my taste. I loved the „harder“ writing experience with the boox stylus. could you possibly tell me, which pen has a harder and precise nib? Maybe the wacom one? Thank you very much in advance
Maybe the standard nibs of the Wacom one, yes. Or the Lamy. Or the black nibs given with the HP Zbook X2.
thank you, i will try :)
Hello, excellent comparision.
Are Wacom One or LAMY pens going to be compatible and work for other model of ONYX BOOX, like Nova Air, or recent Nova Air C?
Thank you ! Yes, all EMR pens are compatible with tablets that works with this technology (all the Boox note-taker lines, including nova air)
Thanks for your video. What nib for the LAMY stylus did you use to write on the Boox: PC/LE or POM? Thanks.
You mean in the video ? I can't remember because I like changing nibs. I preper more "paper like" nibs (wacom or HP or remarkable,...) better than the Lamy ones.
Which one is your number one choice? Thank you
i've had trouble finding replacement nibs for the HP x2 pen. amazon and ebay all say out of stock :(
Remarkable, Onyx or Wacom nibs are compatible with this pen.
amazing exhaustive review. Thanks for this. super in depth and was interesting to hear how the EMR tech works at the start too
edit: also amazing english. je peux parler en francais mais pas comme tu peux parler en anglais 😂
Haha. Merci pour les encouragements !
Do you know if the Wacom pro slim is compatible with boox devices. Note 3 in particular. I’m seeing mixed comments on line
Hey. This was a great video. I want to know if Wacom one pen tips fit and work on onyx boox round stylus (not the one that comes with note air).
Thx! Yes, they fit. th-cam.com/video/FDoj7bvWxWw/w-d-xo.html
Merci pour l'explication du fonctionnement technnique des stylos, peu de gens en parlent dans leurs videos.
Hi. The Samsung S pen has a plastic nib which wears out very slowly. Will it not harm the RM screen? Bcz default RM pens have nibs made of paper type material which wear out.
Nice explanation thank you :)
Thanks this was really good.
I have a Samsung S6. My opinion is the same as you, the stylus is a bit small and I use the erase button a lot. I'm looking for a better stylus.
Maybe try the Boox pen 2 pro or the Kindle premium stylus
@@onemoreink3654 I just got a Lamy Al-start and so far I'm happy. The button is a little too far back away from the nib but it seems OK.
I have a number of Parker ball point pens and always thought they were a bit thin, but the Lamy seems just the right size; so I'll probably by an ink Lamy as well.
regarding illustration, dos the hp zbook one feel any more "light"? i own the wacom one pen but it feels it needs more force to be activated in my experience
I am not sure to understand. No need for those pens to put "pressure" on the surface : it starts writing once the nib is in contact with the pen. Some brushes manage the pressure (force) you can put on your pen in order to manage the thickness of the line but it is not an "activation".
Does onyx boox note air 2 plus has a tilt function like remarkable 2(when i can make wide texture line)? I cant find this feature in many reviews for onyx , and saw it only on remarkable ans kindle scribe
How can i arrange that small plastic part on the remarkable mark plus. Any idea? if i have to buy a new pen, id like to try another one. I really really like the remarkable marker but its too much fragile for me. I use the remarkable 2, which one will u recommend me?
If you like the eraser, you can try the staedtler jumbo : it can be compatible with RM nibs with a little hack (see my video). The HP Zbook X2 pen is also a really good pen but hard to find. If you need à "not fragile" pen, the Lamy EMR is the good choise, but it does not have the eraser.
Hi, will all these work with Onyx Boox Note pro? Tnks!
Yes
Thanks a lot for very educational video.
Thank you!
Hi ! I like Lamy but I don't like the cap. So I would go the Samsung. Which could be the best nib for a Onyx Note Air? It could work with other nibs or has to be with Onyx one?
Have you try Wacom Pen 4K (LP-1100K) 😊
Thanks for sharing. I needed exactly that kind of tips. I'm still hesitating though, between Lamy, wacom and samsung. According to your experiment, can you tell me the one which offers the best control and is the closest of the paper feeling, please? I'd like to be able to sketch and take effective notes with it. Thank you!
The paper feel depends on the nib, not the pen itself. I like the Lamy because it is not fragile. The Samsung is pleasant for small hands and if you like lightweight pens. The Wacom is good too, very ergonomic!
I really like that onyx boox round tip pen. It looks more like a ballpoint and less like a stylus, which appeals to me. Plus it has the eraser and side button, something that exceedingly hard to find for a reasonable price these days.
I finally bought the S6 lite s pen following your video and I just realised the button doesn’t work on my remarkable 2.
I am not a specialist on that but there is a hack that enables the buttons (my RM2 is not hacked)
I have Wacom one in my hand and the Lamy all star is on the way. I have a question, are the nibs from these two stylus are comparability to each other?
Yes.
@@onemoreink3654 Thank you.
Bonjour, selon vous quel est le meilleur pen pour boox note air ? merci
J'aime beaucoup le wacom one. Un bouton, une forme ergonomique. Des mines compatibles
I have a Remarkable but the sound of the pencil gives me pain, could you advise me one that sounds like a pen or without sound ? Thanks :)
Usually people like this ! Maybe try the Lamy with original nibs
Hi, I have a lenovo 500E chromebook, does an EMR stylus work with it? tHANKS
I do not like pencil paper friction feel when writing I like a smooth low friction writing. What pen do you recommend that feels like a low friction smooth ballpoint pen on paper?
It's more depending on the nib than the pen. Maybe try the Lamy or the staedtler jumbo !
@@onemoreink3654 thank you 👍 Lamy with POM or PC/EL nib for Air 2 Plus?
PC/EL if you do no like the "paper feel" at all. The good thing with the Lamy is that you can change your nibs later if you do not like the feeling. Remarkable nibs are, for example, compatible.
I have onyx box Nova Air. Is it compatible with Samsung S pen galaxy tab S6 lite?. Thanks for the answer ...
Yes !
Thank you...
The Lamy eraser doesn't work on Remarkable 2?
No. Unless you hack the RM2
The best pen for Note Air is LAMY EMR I think, bcs it`s pan more thick than other and lay in hand wery comfortable.
I like the Lamy too, it looks like a real pen! But no magnetic attachment.
I have a question .Is SAMSUNG Galaxy Tab S6 S Pen is compability for Onyx Note Air as well as SAMSUNG Galaxy Tab S7 Pen ???
Yes it is. The thing is that S7 pens have also bluetooth capabilities that are useless for Wacom e-ink devices.
Nice effort and very useful. I have the two Staedtler pens and like them very much. My preference is for the jumbo on account of the eraser function. Also, replacement nibs are easy to find and are good value. The Lamy is on my wish list pending a weak moment. Cheers.
Thank you !
The eraser of the WACOM One pen work in RM2 without hack?
No. Without hack, just the pens that have an eraser at the end work.
Hi
can you please help me? I have a wacom intuos pen & touch tablet ( old version) but i lost the pen and i can't find one to buy it . What should i buy ( compatible with my tablet) ? Please reply me
Thank you
Sorry but i'm really not a specialist in all the Wacom products...I am sure that you can find the compatibilty on the Wacom website. Do you think that your tablet has Wacom EMR technology ?
@@onemoreink3654 it s not a screen tablet i have to connect it to the pc draw on it and shows on the pc and because it s okd i didn't find the compatibility on the wacom
@@onemoreink3654 2018 models† feature 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity and a resolution of 2540 lines per inch[10][11][12][13] (1000 lines/cm). Each of the models have a 5.8 × 3.6 in (14.7 × 9.2 cm) active surface area, a weight of 290 ±50g, and 4 control buttons.
Intuos tablets feature a battery-free pen (powered by the same EMR (Electromagnetic resonance) technology as the Intuos Pro line), which can be used alongside finger swipes (in some models), with ± 0.02 in (± 0.5 mm) accuracy. Each tablet includes an option to switch orientation for left- or right-handed users.[citation needed]
this is my model Wacom Intuos pen & touch M graphics tablet
The intuos pen technology is different from s pen style stylus technology, despite both are developed and patented by the same company. Also the pen for eavh intuos revision is incompatible with each other. The only models that the pens are cross generation supported is the intuos pro and Cintiq lines.
Therefore, you need to buy the original intuos pen & touch pens. You cannot replace it with any other pens, including different models of Wacom.
lequel conseillez vous pour une utilisation avec le remarkable 2 ?
ca dépend vraiment des gouts de chacun. Moi j'aime bien avoir une gomme donc je dirais le Marker plus ou le HP. Si le bouton latéral fonctionnait sans hacker la tablette, j'aurais dit le WACOM One.
@@onemoreink3654Merci de votre reponse
Hello, best stylus for samsung galaxy tab s6?
So, can I buy a Remarkable without pen and use my Wacom pen?
Yes. All Wacom EMR compatible pens are working
Avez-vous des vidéos françaises?
Oui!
@@onemoreink3654 alors j'irai voir cela! Merci c'est véritablement apprécié!
Just here to see if it worth paying $120 for the remarkable black pen with erasing feature.
Great accent!!
Haha !;-)
Try visiting other english-speaking countries then telling the locals they have nice accents lol *facepalm
No one magnets to the tablet… except for the original one. What a s**t
As far as I know, for magnetic pens exept the original boox ones, you have the samsung s6 lite and the eTrament.