@bmwblog I love the styling and that it's basically a mini M4. 1M or not, I've owned my N54 powered car for close to a decade and have no desire for another one or a S55. I still can't get on board with the look of the G80.
The g87 and g80 can be questionable with styling , the M1 and M2cs are in the hall of fame on capability and styling across the masses and for years to come will be the gold standard. The S55 is one of the most underrated engines in the bmw lineup IMO. My vote is the M2cs. Thank you BMW blog and Nate for the great content I’m a big fan and for the Debbie downers there are plenty of other videos to watch if you don’t care for this one so stop complaining and appreciate that this is done FOR US!!! Ty BMW
lol funny because i just got an OG manual m2 a few weeks ago and i think the g80 m3 will go down as down of the last great m3s because of the fact that it offered a manual and seems to be the last m3 with just an ICE. i think this generation of m cars will be praised in 10-15 years when we're fully into hybrids and EVs; then we're REALLY going to be reminiscing at the good ol ICEs; even if they had turbos
I have owned the 1M Coupe and it is a great drivers car. I have owned the first series M2 and really enjoyed it. I have owned the F80 M3 Comp and currently own the 2018 F80 M3 CS. I recently added the G82 M4 50 Jahre edition to my collection and decided not to go for the new M2. That is because the M4 will be better suited for longer Autobahn driving than the M2 with its shorter wheel base. As for styling, I kinda like both the new M2 and M3/4 despite the controversy.
der M2 ist aber auch schon so lang, meinst du der fährt sich unschön auf der autobahn? will wetten, dass er auch bei 250 usw. wie ein brett auf der bahn liegt.
I'm fortunate to own both a 1M and M2CS. Both are amazing cars and plenty capable. The 1M is destined to become a true icon for BMW, there's no dispute. The M2CS has the potential to become an iconic BMW as well, but the 1M has already made its way into the "iconic" BMW list... time will tell. Until then, I'll enjoy each. Ironically I enjoy my modded 135i most of all! :)
I love my FBO 135i. The thing is absolutely raw. It never fails to make me absolutely cackle. Even though it doesn't have the M bodykit, it still looks like a pair of shoulders just muscling down the road.
Fantastic video Nate I enjoyed it! I’m looking to buy the new G87 M2 and personally although not quite as pretty as the previous gen, I still like it. As BMW are highly likely to release a xdrive competition variant in the near future - I think it’s best to wait for one of those. Keep up the great work.
Great comparison, but you didn't mention one of the big differences between the old and new M2: the almost infinite variations possible with new M2's handling, steering and braking settings. How was it set up during this video? If the back end wasn't as playful as you like, did you try changing the DSC or M Traction Control?
This is one of the best BMW videos out there, carwow did something like this but going straight, your input put my curiosity to rest wow wished you could have also have a tuned 135i N54 into the mix but that M1 is basically a 135i so i'll take it, keep it up with the old vs the new that's awesome, doing some tuned older models vs the newer ones is a cool concept, and to your question which one will i pick with no hesitation that M2.
@@bmwblog Yea believe me i had many including BMWs nothing like black, red or white i make them look amazing, but as far as that new M2 all i would do to it is 1 and a half lowering and black tint all around it and keep it stock for a year then tune it to stage 2 at least and i'll be killing AMGs. I'm a great driver but your driving skills are superb.
@@bmwblog I’ve had my m2 cs manual for a few months now - had a m2 comp before and a 1 series m coupe years ago. The m2 cs has a basic raw drive. No stupid touch screens, hand break buttons, over complex driving setting etc I work a lot for BMW and after spending a lot of time with BMW China I see the design of new BMWs is to suit the large Asian market - clearly shown in design and ‘features’ and as communicated by BMW The m2 cs clearly wasn’t influenced but the Asian purchasing % and ticks all my boxes
G87 all day, was between both a used M2CS and a new G87, G87 hands down. Look extremely menacing in person especially when lower, muscle car like design. M2CS is a looker for sure but dated when sitting next to G87
@@bmwblog MT! going white like my previous 981S for the stormtrooper look. Wanted Lava Orange but the color choices are really limited as are options. No extended fuel tank or PCCB and for ED they will only hold a car 45 days.
Unfortunately we did not have the time to time them all (no pun intended). It was so muck workload in just a few hours and simply had to focus on just driving. This is why we messed up a bit the drag races too, they were too rushed
The ones that makes you smile and laugh are the ones that you will always want to take out for a drive. The G8x are just not on my mind every time I get out of them
@@bmwblog zf8 auto, all white with sunroof, with the shadow line package and the carbon fiber interior, not the carbon fiber seats nor the roof but that s what s on my budget lol ordered it back on November 22, got it on June this year
I currently drive a M2 Competition and are looking to update. Whilst I’m sure the new M2 is great to drive I just can’t live with those looks. I may have to wait another 18 months or so and look seriously at an 2025 M3.
@@bmwblog that’s why I’ll probably wait until 2025 when the new M3 is released. I’m also considering an Alpha Romeo Giulia Q. but would prefer to stay with BMW. Time will tell.
@@mike786551 i think so too. because the next M3 will be a full or half electric car. i would'nt bet, that it will gonna be awesome. i think it's more time to save one of the last non electric m....
"The new m2 will be quicker on track than old m2 cs, but not as fun.." Wondering what's so fun driving on track at full speed and chasing seconds? Shame Bmw Blog that you cannot have decent presenter for such great car collection in one place.
@@bmwblog Good answer. But for the record Clarkson is able telling stories but def not a good driver at all. 😉 Rowan Atkinson, in fact would be much better than your colleague too. 🙂
I know. We really tried. We were happy they got us the M2 CS and 1M. They rarely give those out. They are part of the BMW Classic fleet in the US. So there was no way we could start demanding now this M3 and that 2 Series etc...On top of the fact that we were the first to track the M3 CS and pretty much burn their rubber :)
Older M2CS for me, more fun, MUCH better looking, in fact, the best M car of it's generation. New M2 is obviously a much more capable car, but it seems too safe. 1M I was never a fan of, it's not a real M car imo, just a parts bin special, and I always found it ugly. M3 great daily, but not the prettiest. All out of my budget, so I guess I'll have to be happy with my M140i 🙂
@@bmwblog Maybe yes. I worked in the motor trade for many years and got to drive most of the hot hatches and M cars, but the 1M is one I have yet to actually drive myself. It just looks so ugly for starters (and I know looks are subjective, my own M140i isn't exactly 'pretty'). It just seemed over hyped and not special enough, compared to other M cars. I wanted it to be a scaled down M3, and when I first got to sit in one, it just wasn't, by a long way. I have been driven as a passenger in one, and it just didn't ignite any feelings for me.
Which one is your pick? New M2? M2 CS? 1M or M3?
G87 hands down
@@Ryan-jm3tm any reason why?
@bmwblog I love the styling and that it's basically a mini M4. 1M or not, I've owned my N54 powered car for close to a decade and have no desire for another one or a S55. I still can't get on board with the look of the G80.
The N54 is ok, as long as you replace the turbos at some point :)
1M
The g87 and g80 can be questionable with styling , the M1 and M2cs are in the hall of fame on capability and styling across the masses and for years to come will be the gold standard. The S55 is one of the most underrated engines in the bmw lineup IMO. My vote is the M2cs. Thank you BMW blog and Nate for the great content I’m a big fan and for the Debbie downers there are plenty of other videos to watch if you don’t care for this one so stop complaining and appreciate that this is done FOR US!!! Ty BMW
Thank you for the kind words
@@bmwblog my pleasure…
lol funny because i just got an OG manual m2 a few weeks ago and i think the g80 m3 will go down as down of the last great m3s because of the fact that it offered a manual and seems to be the last m3 with just an ICE. i think this generation of m cars will be praised in 10-15 years when we're fully into hybrids and EVs; then we're REALLY going to be reminiscing at the good ol ICEs; even if they had turbos
M2cs is a masterpiece of M division...i think would be my choice
it definitely is
1M for me. Although id consider s65 swapping it
That Toronto red G87 M2 looks awesome. I don’t care what the haters say
:) Los of opinions on it
Oh yeah like we care about your opinion - if you love it so much did you buy one?
@@sakitanaoto8681 are you asking us?
@@sakitanaoto8681 Actually saving for a G80. Why you so mad? Lol
@@verde629 not mad at you im mad at BMW making this shitbox
I have owned the 1M Coupe and it is a great drivers car. I have owned the first series M2 and really enjoyed it. I have owned the F80 M3 Comp and currently own the 2018 F80 M3 CS. I recently added the G82 M4 50 Jahre edition to my collection and decided not to go for the new M2. That is because the M4 will be better suited for longer Autobahn driving than the M2 with its shorter wheel base. As for styling, I kinda like both the new M2 and M3/4 despite the controversy.
why did you sell the 1M?
der M2 ist aber auch schon so lang, meinst du der fährt sich unschön auf der autobahn? will wetten, dass er auch bei 250 usw. wie ein brett auf der bahn liegt.
M2 Cs all day
great car for sure
1M all day.
The 1 series M coupe will always be a classic. With that said, I own the G87 M2 and it is a blast to drive.
I'm fortunate to own both a 1M and M2CS. Both are amazing cars and plenty capable. The 1M is destined to become a true icon for BMW, there's no dispute. The M2CS has the potential to become an iconic BMW as well, but the 1M has already made its way into the "iconic" BMW list... time will tell. Until then, I'll enjoy each. Ironically I enjoy my modded 135i most of all! :)
Lucky! Wish I had both too. Only 1M for now
@@bmwblog I think you've got the right one! 🙂
I love my FBO 135i. The thing is absolutely raw. It never fails to make me absolutely cackle. Even though it doesn't have the M bodykit, it still looks like a pair of shoulders just muscling down the road.
I liked the BMW best!
😂 Us too!
1M is a masterpiece!
It is, but it feels like an old car
M2 CS❤
Any reason why?
@@bmwblog
Aesthetic, lighter, special and fun edition.
It was a riot on the track
Fantastic video Nate I enjoyed it! I’m looking to buy the new G87 M2 and personally although not quite as pretty as the previous gen, I still like it. As BMW are highly likely to release a xdrive competition variant in the near future - I think it’s best to wait for one of those. Keep up the great work.
It might be a while for the M2 xDrive :)
Great day at the track - nice job Nate 👍
Thank you James! It was a lot of fun and a lot of work, but think it turned out really well.
You missed out :)
@@bmwblog Haha, yeah, I'll do the next one 😉
M2 CS is an artfull piece of HW. 🙂
Such a fantastic car
Great comparison, but you didn't mention one of the big differences between the old and new M2: the almost infinite variations possible with new M2's handling, steering and braking settings. How was it set up during this video? If the back end wasn't as playful as you like, did you try changing the DSC or M Traction Control?
They were all on the Sport+ setting
Thank you!!!!!!!!! Cheers from a Canadian fan.🥶
You're welcome! Glad it was useful
1M all day any day...❤
Not a bad choice. We own one also
Great video -- thanks!
Glad you liked it! We weren't sure how it will turn out :)
This is one of the best BMW videos out there, carwow did something like this but going straight, your input put my curiosity to rest wow wished you could have also have a tuned 135i N54 into the mix but that M1 is basically a 135i so i'll take it, keep it up with the old vs the new that's awesome, doing some tuned older models vs the newer ones is a cool concept, and to your question which one will i pick with no hesitation that M2.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. We will try to do more things in the future. This was a huge project but turned out okay. Which M2? The CS?
@@bmwblog The M2 in black or even that bloody red.
Black is good
@@bmwblog Yea believe me i had many including BMWs nothing like black, red or white i make them look amazing, but as far as that new M2 all i would do to it is 1 and a half lowering and black tint all around it and keep it stock for a year then tune it to stage 2 at least and i'll be killing AMGs. I'm a great driver but your driving skills are superb.
Nate nailed the track portion, especially since he literarily had to drive and talk for nearly 8 hrs. Mostly manuals too
M2 Cs alllll day long
Why?
@@bmwblog I’ve had my m2 cs manual for a few months now - had a m2 comp before and a 1 series m coupe years ago. The m2 cs has a basic raw drive. No stupid touch screens, hand break buttons, over complex driving setting etc
I work a lot for BMW and after spending a lot of time with BMW China I see the design of new BMWs is to suit the large Asian market - clearly shown in design and ‘features’ and as communicated by BMW
The m2 cs clearly wasn’t influenced but the Asian purchasing % and ticks all my boxes
1m
Definitely an icon and hard not to choose!
E82 or F87 for me!
Excellent video!
Both good choice. Glad you enjoyed it. Lots of work went into this one and we had only a few hours to shoot it all.
G87 all day, was between both a used M2CS and a new G87, G87 hands down. Look extremely menacing in person especially when lower, muscle car like design. M2CS is a looker for sure but dated when sitting next to G87
Got my 1M out of storage and am driving it while I await my 718 CGTS.
It’s still an absolute riot and turns heads.
Been thinking about a GTS 4.0 also
I had a 981S manual and just sold it as my GTS arrives 2 days before Christmas. A 2-year wait!
@@bmwblog
Did you get the manual GTS 4.0? And what color? Debating also
@@bmwblog MT! going white like my previous 981S for the stormtrooper look. Wanted Lava Orange but the color choices are really limited as are options. No extended fuel tank or PCCB and for ED they will only hold a car 45 days.
@@dp2901 thinking MT also and a blue color
M2 CS
Such a special car, wish I had one too
I want the M2 good review !
Glad you liked it! But which M2?
@@bmwblog M2 CS for fun. But for everyday usage M2 2023 ❤️💙
Awesome video but were there any times?
Unfortunately we did not have the time to time them all (no pun intended). It was so muck workload in just a few hours and simply had to focus on just driving. This is why we messed up a bit the drag races too, they were too rushed
@@bmwblog setting up to film is always a lot of time so I get it.
The ones that makes you smile and laugh are the ones that you will always want to take out for a drive. The G8x are just not on my mind every time I get out of them
Yes, that's how it works. My choice would be first: M2 CS, then 1M.
*I ///M Fan*
A great shirt from BMW from a few years back!
Nice one!
Wonder what setup was used for G87 (level of traction control).. with off it’s where the fun starts 😶🌫️
DSC was on, occasionally MDM, but most of the time Sport+
Great content.
Thank you, glad you liked it!
@bmwblog Where is the part that was highlighted at 3:36? Might be good to add a link to it in this video if that part is not included.
th-cam.com/video/fp-TvUd_Utw/w-d-xo.html
Have you ever driven an old Z4M? That's the car I miss the most.
12:15 the whole world felt that
1M all day long
Not M2 CS?
How do i find out when you guys are out at the performance center to go watch? would love to watch you guys tear it up from the sidelines.
Good question :) We might be back there in November.
I currently have a f80 comp.(auto),a F87 comp(auto), and a e30is (Manual)/ everything will eventually go except the E30 ❤
Nice lineup :)
I love my new m2
What color?
@@bmwblog zf8 auto, all white with sunroof, with the shadow line package and the carbon fiber interior, not the carbon fiber seats nor the roof but that s what s on my budget lol ordered it back on November 22, got it on June this year
What cars did you have before the m2? And is the car really as good as everyone is saying it is driving wise?
@@mike786551 i ve had an infiniti Q50 redsport before this one, the driving on the m2 is just on another level
When did the 1M start production?
2011
I am considering ordering the M2. I have to really convince myself to spend that cash.
Good car
F87..... last M2 made in germany, no mexico pls..
I hear you, but so far I have not heard of quality issues on cars made in Mexico
@@bmwblog personal preference.... jus assume, i wil not buy ferrari made in china if any. Still prefer M fm germany OEM CBU..
@@jimbaranresidence8 All fine. We all live by some rules or adhere to certain opinions. Nothing wrong with that.
Still, S58 is 1step up fm previous F.series, i jus waitin for some1 to put S58 into F.series body.... dun kno if possible.
Might be possible. I'm sure some tried it already :) Similar size
The M2 should feel just as fast as the M3 both being auto. I think that's the difference you felt between them
It could be, the auto in the M2 makes a difference. But overall, the M2 still should feel smaller, more nimble.
M2CS
The new M2 looks Hideous. Will always be a no for me on the new M2. The 1M and M4 is the way to go
Would say the M2 CS will be the 1st option
When the car journalist says he wants to try the DCT option in a G87 M2 🤡🤡🤡
Mistakes can happen. Easy to pick on one mistake in hours of filming
I currently drive a M2 Competition and are looking to update. Whilst I’m sure the new M2 is great to drive I just can’t live with those looks. I may have to wait another 18 months or so and look seriously at an 2025 M3.
I mean, the M3 is not that much of a better looker :) Both cars drive great though
@@bmwblog that’s why I’ll probably wait until 2025 when the new M3 is released. I’m also considering an Alpha Romeo Giulia Q. but would prefer to stay with BMW. Time will tell.
@@boeingdriver29i don't think there's a new M3 coming out for years.. Who told you this?
@@mike786551 i think so too. because the next M3 will be a full or half electric car. i would'nt bet, that it will gonna be awesome. i think it's more time to save one of the last non electric m....
No new M3 until 2027-2028. And def not gasoline
"The new m2 will be quicker on track than old m2 cs, but not as fun.." Wondering what's so fun driving on track at full speed and chasing seconds? Shame Bmw Blog that you cannot have decent presenter for such great car collection in one place.
Sorry, the Stig wasn't available. We also went for Clarkson. He was busy too. So we went with third best option. Nate did great.
@@bmwblog Good answer. But for the record Clarkson is able telling stories but def not a good driver at all. 😉 Rowan Atkinson, in fact would be much better than your colleague too. 🙂
Rowan was busy at the Festival of Speed.
@@bmwblog :D
Nice response to a silly initial comment.
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Too bad the M3 wasnt a base manual for a truer comparison
We couldn't get one. We asked for that and M240i. So we had to work with what we had
@@bmwblog all good. Can’t always get a perfect apples to apples comparison. Appreciate what you’ve done regardless. 👍
I know. We really tried. We were happy they got us the M2 CS and 1M. They rarely give those out. They are part of the BMW Classic fleet in the US. So there was no way we could start demanding now this M3 and that 2 Series etc...On top of the fact that we were the first to track the M3 CS and pretty much burn their rubber :)
Older M2CS for me, more fun, MUCH better looking, in fact, the best M car of it's generation.
New M2 is obviously a much more capable car, but it seems too safe.
1M I was never a fan of, it's not a real M car imo, just a parts bin special, and I always found it ugly.
M3 great daily, but not the prettiest.
All out of my budget, so I guess I'll have to be happy with my M140i 🙂
The 1M might be a parts bin, but if you drive one, it will change your mind.
@@bmwblog Maybe yes.
I worked in the motor trade for many years and got to drive most of the hot hatches and M cars, but the 1M is one I have yet to actually drive myself.
It just looks so ugly for starters (and I know looks are subjective, my own M140i isn't exactly 'pretty').
It just seemed over hyped and not special enough, compared to other M cars. I wanted it to be a scaled down M3, and when I first got to sit in one, it just wasn't, by a long way. I have been driven as a passenger in one, and it just didn't ignite any feelings for me.
@@FogAndLime Thank you for the kind comment, it is appreciated.
Oh hang on ....
Holy hell the front of the M3 is ugly. How can you see that and release it? Makes no sense.
Apparently it sells well
f80 m3cs perhaps?
CSs are just build different
That would have been cool to have
That yellow M3 is soooooooo ugly. The color really accentuates the beaver tooth grill.
To each their own, but Dakar Yellow will always be a great yellow!
@@bmwblog Love the yellow, hate the front end of the car. With those beaver teeth, you really need black or another really dark color to hide them.
Z4 m40 is better
Not sure if better, but def a good car
Bmw m4 🙄🤔🙄???
?
Why no bmw m4 ?
Manual transmission it’s not for the track…….slow and boring
that was the only way to make it fair against the 1M and M2 Cs
1m
:) Nice choice
1m
We own an 1M also