Has Arcadia Changed Reptile Lighting Forever? | John Courteney-Smith MRSB
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John Courteney-Smith is the Head of Science and Innovation at Arcadia Reptile. In this episode, John discusses the exciting new product line by Arcadia called, LumenIZE. LumenIZE takes reptile lighting to the next level by giving the keeper full control, allowing them to replicate solar activity from dawn to dusk and everything in between including the ability to increase and decrease both visible light and UVI through the course of a day. John discusses the R&D, functionality, welfare benefits to our animals, and more!
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0:00 Coming Up
2:09 Welcome John, LumenIZE Intro & Development
14:39 Why wait to release the LED? Replicating Solar Patterns
22:08 The Benefits of Replicating Dawn/Dusk
27:18 EK & CRH Ad Read
29:15 When should we turn on our halogens?
31:24 Does dimming a UV Lamp alter its Spectrum?
37:26 Waterproofing the System
41:25 Creating the LumenIZE Brand and Design
53:16 How does the LumenIZE system function?
1:11:23 Linking units together
1:15:54 Earth, John's next book & writer's block
1:28:28 Closing Thoughts
1:32:12 Outro
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Great watch - as a fellow creator who has been lucky enough to use these lamps before launch, I can confidently say these are great. As mentioned in the podcast, crepuscular species certainly benefit from it a lot :)
Thanks for watching, Rebecca! 😀
I've been trying to figure out a dawn/ dusk period for my lighting for years, and my wall has been that I'm not a coder and I kept running into needing to write a (maybe simple) custom thing to control my lighting. And then JCS walks in and has a product that does this. Like a boss. So give it another decade, and controllable uvb lighting will be part of the new standard care. This is the best time to be a new reptile keeper, the tech available really helps flatten a very step learning curve. Even the fairly clunky system I have now of layered sensors and timers and heating and humidity and lighting is dramatically more advanced than it was in the 2000's. Reptile keeping wouldn't have been accessible to me without the layered tech I have. But I've been bothered the gaps I have in care because I can't diy custom systems. It seems like the learning curve for that is straight up. So I'm forced to rely on commercial products, and arcadia's lighting seems to consistently be the best lighting commercially available. Also JCS not releasing a just "good enough product" and waiting to have a product that meets his exacting standards is what makes him a trusted expert.
This is not a sales pitch? Dude, I've been waiting for this my entire reptile keeping life.... IDC if I have to buy all new fixtures, bulbs I don't care. This is such a game changer that I've been waiting for the lighting industry to take hold of. And I knew it was going to be arcadia. Brilliant. Well done. Bravo. Cannot wait to make the change for our whole collection. So stoked about this. These are the things that make me excited to be a reptile keeper. These are the things that get me excited about our futures as reptile keepers.
Great interview thanks so much. I have just purchased a hatchling Western Herman's tortoise & bought a T5 LumenIZE lamp, so I am excited to see the positive health benefits. I also feed my tortoise the Optimized 52 tortoise food. Due to John's brilliant morals, ethics & authenticity regarding animal welfare, attention to environmentology etc, I will be an Arcadia customer for life. I appreciate the attention to detail, care & inclusivity that John & Arcadia have, thank you! :)
Awesome, glad you enjoyed the episode! Thank you very much for listening! 😀
I've always from day 1 had trust in Arcadia, there was just something about the company. Never knew this geezer even existed. I saw this and have now watched every podcast multiple times. I had trust in Arcadia before but knowing that this guy is the lead scientist just solidifies them as my go to.
Totally agree with you, John's great morals, ethics & authenticity make Arcadia an outstanding company!
This is absolutely awesome and needed. My wallet is a little sad because I just over the past year converted many of my vivs over to Arcadia from a competitor...lol. Such is life, time to start the evolution to LumenIZE🐍🦎🐢🐸💚
Thanks for watching, Rick!
Same story here....just received 3 new 36" prot5 with matching dragon 14% last week ....now I must upgrade again 🤣
@@jahyoda I feel your pain...🤣🤣
Honestly, the only way I think this launch could be better is if Arcadia offered some type of trade-in on your old Arcadia lamps. I will plan to resell mine as I upgrade my enclosures to the Lumenize and hopefully another keeper will find good use in the lamps that I have been using. However, I will feel a little bad that I will be upgrading my own animals to what I believe to be the new standard and selling my old tech to somebody who’s own animals will be in the last generation of husbandry lol
Everyone starts somewhere. One might just be learning and getting more into the lighting of their reptiles and they are trying to improve but don’t quite have the money for something like the LumenIZE Therefore you’d be helping with their cost and bridging the gap until they have the money and are able to progress further in their reptile keeping 😊
This such a brilliant watch, amazing work John you have truly revolutionised the reptile keeping game so well done to you and the team that has made this amazing product 👏🏽
Thank you for watching the episode!
As someone who is autistic and adhd I appreciate this so greatly. This video has confirmed for me that I will be slowly getting all of my animals switched over to these.
49:06 love neurodivergent including. Not sure if Dylan has caught my episode with Bill Stewart trauma 2, where we talked about neurodivergent at one point in time and the effects of autism on the brain
Yes, I did catch that episode with Bill!
@AnimalsatHomePodcast I have learned to think of the reptile brain was a less extreme, better at automatic response and autistic, compared to people. That is most likely due to the smooth brain and not wanting to loss information, unlike a cat, that needs to be thought and unlearn as a survival thing. So, the reptile brain is equipped to handle what it needs to, but not able to learn truely new things easily. Like a autistic child would have the same problem
This is incredible! I'm so sad tho because i just bought the old style shade dweller units to introduce supplemental uvb on my snakes as a much needed upgrade. You guys over at arcadia are nuts! Keep it up, and hopefully ill be able to switch over in the next couple years. 😅
Always behind the curve, but never stopping growth. We just gotta keep on growing as we go.
Exactly, just keep growing when you can! 😀
Dimmable T5!!??!! FAN-F***ING-TASTIC!!!!! I'll be getting this!!!!!!! Thanks ARCADIA. I would love extra channels to add irrigation control and additional lights. And a suspendable frame to clip units onto.
NA over here. We love arcadia products. Luckily its becoming more common to see their products at herp stores here. However I have yet to find these products on shelves here unfortunately.
Great Job ,,,, well enjoyed ,,,,
Thank you! 🙏🏻
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast 💪💪💪💪💪
I've been doing something similar with a Fluval 3.0 programable LED light for sunrise and sunset as well as moon light and have a separate light and timer to turn on the UV lights after sunrise and they go off before sunset. It would be nice to have this combined. The Fluval 3.0 grows plants quite well.
Was hoping we get something like this. Price point is something but with all the features minus the included Lamp the Fixture is in a good range. I recently switched all my enclosures to the "old" system so i have to wait until i can get those. The LED option is still not listed in Germany at this point.
Hope we can avoid the upcoming ban of T5 in Europe since i think my Horned Lizards would benefit more from this system than my staggered clutter of ballasts and Micro controllers.
Great Episode! Love to watch those in dept Conversations :)
Thank you very much for watching the video!
Well this is frankly awesome.
This is so great. My question is how long do the t5 last(is it 1year like the aquarium ones) and what is the pris? And what length do they come in?
Great show. Super content
so happy this has come out but i am a little confused why this was such a challenge as the aquarium hobby has had programmable lighting for 10 years or more
Are they as easily controllable with this app and bluetoothed?
I use "Hygger Planted + 24/7" aquarium led light. It ramps up and down with colors changing from dim orange light at dawn, to full spectrum at noon and ramps down to a dim blue light, to nothing for the night.
I think the dimmable UV is the cool new thing here, in a form that doesn't distort the light spectrum one way or another too much. Programmable lightning has been around for a while, but not sure about the gradient in UV?
@@mobydickii8407 Nicrew has the same and both Hygger and Nicrew are available to buy today and are way cheaper.
@@aloiis Means nothing to me as a dart frog breeder. Im sure one day they will come out with a "shade dweller" version of the lumenize led.
Would chaining the new Luminize Jungle dawn to the older Arcadia T5 UVB require the new cable or would the old one that came with the t5 suffice? Or are these not compatible?
I actually think it’s a very cool product and for sure has its perks like truly making that slice of nature enclosure, and I can see this being pretty cool for crepuscular species.
Am I going to rush and buy it when all my current Arcadia products work fine? Probably not & and yeah this might be a little fluff and driving a Cadillac vs. A civic type of analogy but it’s not a gimmick, just a little more niche IMO.
Can’t wait to give the episode a full listen & compare my opinion then against my initial reactions. Nice work, Dillon!
So all others herps don't experience sunrise amd sunset?
Great talk as always.
What confuses me is that I was told that there would no longer have manufactures making T5.
Thank you for watching! I’m not exactly sure what’s going on with the T5 ban either, I know in Canada it doesn’t really come into effect until after 2030
Also thought uv bulbs T5s etc were going to be banned in the uk from 2025??
What about shade dweller versions of the LumenZIE LED?
Wish there was a standalone device they made, rather than having to buy a bunch of new Jungle Dawns / T5 Lamps all over again.
I think he said you can use an Arcadia light bulb in the new fixture
Listen at 37 minutes
Thank you for the video Dillon! How compatible is the new ProT5 with the LampGuardPro? If I understood correctly, it is slightly bigger than the standard T5 unit; does the ramp fit into the cage?
Thank you for watching! Unfortunately, the new T5 is not compatible with the lifeguard as it is too tall.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast Good to know!
Thank you so much for this video and your time.. John sure opened up my eyes about things here to better my life of my bearded dragons. And you can tell that John is a very loving and caring guy. Wish I could meet this guy in person one day. I would love to read your books too
Thank you for watching the episode! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast Would you or John happen to know if the old chrome steel clips work on the new one though?
Just so I don't have to change those out
@@franklandice good question… I’m not 100% sure. I want to say it should work. I’ll see if John can answer this!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast cool. thank you Yeah just let me know when you do and I can check on two weekend when I convert over from std T5 pro.
@@franklandice John says you can use either the plastic or metal clips 👍🏼
Anyone want to share the tropical light settings they have for there tanks?
Im sorry if i missed it in the video, but, the ballast itself is what is programmed, does that mean we can use any Arcadia bulbs? I have Bearded dragons and Uromastyx, and need the 14% bulbs. I looked on the website, but none of the packs come with the 12 or 14 percent uvb bulbs. Am I just missing it?
Yes you can use the ballast with any T5 bulb!
I think the cost is good, but I wonder how long the fixtures will last
Plan on upgrading for my 5 dragons. Will be donating my old units to local reptile rescues 501c3 organizations
Awesome! 🙏🏻 great idea
I just spent a lot of money on new lighting and I was cursing that Jungle Dawn didn't have basic features like dawn/dusk and dimming. I cannot find anywhere to actually purchase the LumenIZE LED bars in the USA.
They will be in the USA soon! There’s currently an issue at the Panama Canal that’s causing the shipment to be delayed. Keep your eye on reptile, basics, or Light Your Reptiles
Question... Maybe you can pass this on to John.... Is there a chance they can make the D3EVO in 75W or if they are in the future? And I'm hoping too that the Heat fixture is on the list of the Lumenize platform
I will ask!
Amazing episode. Mind blowing new technology for our pets health. Looking forward to learning more. Thanks!
Thanks for watching, Mikey! 😀
When is this product available? I'd love to try one for my crested gecko enclosure
@@elizaann2 it's out now. You'll want to check your local Arcadia dealer.
@@elizaann2 it is available now! However, Shipments to US and Australia have been delayed (issues at the Panama canal, and a strike in Australia)
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast Thank you for responding! I am in America so that might be why I can't find any. Do you know of anyone who has been using this on chameleons as well?
I can’t find these available in the U.S. Do you know when I’ll be able to give Arcadia all my money?
You should be able to find them at lightyourreptiles.com, I think!
I wish that there was an option to use a physical remote or something rather than just an app.
1:15:10 wish they had longer link cables
Does it interact with their heating bulbs? Or do you need to buy a timer for them?
No, the heating bulbs are separate
If the T5 unit is now taller will it still fit under the Arcadia lamp guard? I have 1 enclosure without a screen too, it’s a solid top pvc, and my LED and UVB are mounted internally with lamp guards protecting my snake from the fixtures.
Unfortunately, it won’t fit under the light guard as it is too tall
@@AnimalsatHomePodcastnoooooooooo
Thank you for the answer though! I’ll have to figure out a solution before I get my ball python the upgrade, I guess.
Could ThermalZooPro be compatible with lumenIZE?
Yep, I believe it is!
just installed lumenize for my beardie and tortoise that came in the mail a few days ago. now im hearing they are phasing out and discontinuing florescent T5/8's with some new law that passed? now im confused on if they will make some t5 compatible replacement for the florescent or if i wasted my money on these.
Lamps made for the pet industry will have an exemption on the ban
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast thanks yea i had heard there might be pet exemption and it was only homehold variants getting the ban but couldnt confirm it.
Has anyone tried these new fixtures in the ThermalZooPro? Do they fit?
it is possible to retro fit the T5s
Now where can I buy these
LightYourReptiles.com if in US, reptilesRUS.com if in Canada
Can anyone recommend a uv meter that works actually and doesn't cost a cazy amount of cash? I would like the ability to measure different areas in my enclosure build I'm working on, I have also chosen to use lumenize in this build and they should arrive in the next few days. I have wanted to do what these lights can achieve since I build my first enclosure but never thought it was going to be this convenient haha
Someone should test the ramp up and down feature with different strength bulbs. Measuring the UVI with a solameter at the different time intervals to see what the UVI indexes are in between the times where the UBV is at full power. Dont know if that makes sense.
Like someone said in another comment. In nature depending on the environment the UV index could go up to the double digits during the midday. So for crepuscular species the recommended shadedweller techincally wouldnt be enough anymore right? Would it be better to use a more powerful bulb to accurate replicate nature? So that way the animal knows what time to safely bask, and what time to seek shelter as the UVI levels rise to undesirable levels, just like they would in nature.
Someone let me know if this makes sense
Thanks for answering my question about the T5!
For clarification, the Lumenize T5 for UVB will NOT fit in the currently available Arcadia lamp guard
But
Will the new Luminize LED bar fit in the currently available Arcadia lamp guard?
You are welcome! Yes, the LED bar will fit in the current Arcadia Lampard 😀 it’s the exact same size
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast thank you!
Where can I buy it???
If you’re in the US, Light Your Reptiles and Reptile Basics will have them available. They are currently en route
Defenitly sounds like a awesome product, but was does all this mean with the bulb bans coming in?
It sounds like reptile bulbs will be exempt from the ban
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast let's hope for sure. I brought 4 more bulbs in the Black Friday sales so just encase I have some for my BTS and Beardie. Figured better to have them and the ban not effect it then not have them and it turns out they do
Glad to see they didn't use wifi. Not sure we will use these as we already ramp our lighting and heating. Granted our system probably isn't as nice as this it has worked great for a couple years and we wouldn't have to buy all new equipment.
Touching on ferguson zones and those zones being an average from across the whole day, wouldn't dimming then reduce the average UVI levels? If we were to truly replicate nature, wouldn't the UVI would be going up into double digits for some reptiles by midday?
This is a good question. In my experience thus far, I think the answer is technically yes, but practically no.
Technically dimming, the UV will reduce the UVI average throughout the day. But in practicality, only to a minimal extent. Let’s say I bookend my daily UV cycle with a 30 minute ramp on and ramp off period, this means there’s only 60 minutes of the day where the UV is not operating at full strength. However, even within that 30 minutes, there still will be UV production as the bulb is either increasing or decreasing depending on if it’s dusk or dawn.
If someone was really worried about this, they could program the ramp on to start 30 minutes before they want their bulbs at full strength, and ramp off to end 30 minutes after they want their bulbs off (of course 30 minutes is just an example, the dimming up and down could be set to any time interval).
I was mainly thinking in terms of what arcadia seem to be suggesting which is a 4 hour ramp up and ramp down
I wonder about this too. Taking one step further should we have the uvb fixture the length of the enclosure since we now have this type of control?
Are the cables all really long? what if you are linking within the enclosure?
The cables that plug into the wall outlet are about 3 feet and the link cables are about 8 inches or so
The Arcadia LumenIZE Link Cable is 48 inches apparently which is good to link to other vivs but linking the T5 and LED in the viv itself seems excessive . 8 inches sounds sensible but can't find the shorter cable.@@AnimalsatHomePodcast
Actually, I lied! I just took a look at the link cable, and it’s much longer, more like 2 feet long. And yes, you’re correct the other cable that connects to the wall is 4 feet long.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast thanks but I think you’re wrong the connecting cable is 4 feet. I think this is really important to know, will reach out to Arcadia as connecting two lights in the same Viv you don’t want all that extra.
But the jungle dawn lights so not have a sunrise/set feature and no ability to dim.
How does it make sense if t5s are banned in two years in the eu, with a plant wotking with arcadia already shut down?
This is untrue
@@ArcadiaReptile what exactly is untrue? Is there an exemption for reptile use? Is there not a ban coming?
@@ArcadiaReptile or is it the plant? Might be my mistake, i just heard one that you worked with stopped prodction perhaps its not the only one. Eitherway in 2 years there will be a flourescent ban, i really like your products but i worry
@@ArcadiaReptile cause the ban is coning just by googling it
@@kirillukin2222there has always been exemptions for specialized lighting such as reptiles, birds etc. Much the same as the bans for halogen floods, don’t effect reptile branded lighting.
🤔 this looks very interesting…. Like the ‘bright light’ rise-to-wake alarm clock… I sleep through ALL sound alarms, & my sister got it for me from Amazon as a joke, but it actually is the best alarm I’ve ever had!)
(Just an fyi, & I have NO IDEA where it relates on the spectrum, but an interesting & very REAL observation is that the literal ‘LED BLACK LIGHT’ mini lightbulb they sell at pet smart for the low profile ‘Creatures’ light fixture (specifically, the ones used to make scorpions glow) - & and it absolutely DISTURBS my Alligator Snapping Turtles- they act like they are roasting in a 200 degeee spotlight, but it obviously doesn’t produce ANY heat….🤔 I can’t figure out WHAT it is, but I then tried putting a ‘standard’ black-light party bulb on them, so see if they would still freak out, & they DID!!! (They act frantic, like they are trying to frantically escape their tank, & i’ve never seen them ever do that)…. & the SAME thing from my COMMON snapping turtle!!!
I had to wi d 1,75 speed 😂
Me farting person n the glass, that's natural 😅
Wish they’d just upgrade the already existing t5’s with a software update or some. Aint revuying 10 lights
Unfortunately, that wouldn’t be possible
Still buying this tho lol
Hey John if you ever need live testers in California you just let me know 😂 😊
😂😂 worth a shot!
lol. Which animals did you test yours on? What were your thoughts?
@@LetsTalkHerps I had the system running on my jungle carpet, python enclosure. So far it’s been great! I programmed it when I originally set it up, and haven’t had to touch it since.
1:28:25 I disagree with the fear part, I say let small pox out, I have started to see evolution not as survival, but what we use. When we look at the human brain for us to get more empathy, we need modeling and imagination. So if the animals have no fear, they may start to lose the modeling due to not using it. And this would absolutely mean we could never let them back into the wild. And they absolutely have empathy in the form of a model. But we need to understand this reptile, probably have ego, and when we take ego away, they may find it harder to mate.
I live in Europe UK to be precise why this? we are facing a T5 ban in 2025 as yet no exception for reptile keeping..do arcadia know something we don't ?
Yes, that is not true and does not apply to reptile lighting. A full exemption stands that is renewed in the usual course. It is building lighting that cannot be made. If it were true, every hospital, dentist, tanning shop, military, factory production, car manufacture, aircraft flights and more would shut almost overnight. It is untrue.
@@ArcadiaReptile I certainly hope you are right I've heard one factory has already shut in Germany that supply these lights..so leaving just one in Germany .it's a bit scary but hopefuly we will get official clarification
yes, thats not true either. Much misinformation floating about from people not privy to industry. @@salembinx9327
But…. It’s not December. 😊
Wait did I say it’s December? 😂
Another marketing pitch from Arcadia? Don't get me wrong, I use many Arcadia products, but after reading the first 100 pages of Mr. Smith's most recent book, it becomes obvious that it's all advertising fluff.
There's nothing wrong with marketing, in my opinion. If you are confident in your product's quality, and believe it will be a net-good, why not share it with the world? I spend a ton of time marketing the podcast for the same reason.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast Has anyone counted the number of times "TM" appears in the book?
I don't know about fluff. I'm hearing a creative scientific process bringing an idea into reality for the benefit of animals in our care. If that person then shares that product with others it's my choice to purchase. Bravo I say!
@@pjcat3522 Have you even read the book?