I love this video !! I'm a safe flyer and follow the rules. your video explain everything i needed to know now. I like what u said "fly it like u stole it" . Me I film what need and get out of there!!!! GREAT JOB keep up with vids cause these new rules coming we need people like u explaining to US.
I agree with you, I flight it like I stole it too. I’m very cautious. I hav had any issues. If there’s people around I usually won’t even fly. I do need to learn about these rules though.
Well, seeing that there are so many hassles to flying a drone, I don't think I am going to get one afterall. I didn't have any plans in doing it professionally, just getting one to get some cool video for my own use. It's not worth it to me just to have one recreationally . At least seeing this video opened my eyes to the fact that flying a drone can put one in legal jeopardy if not done in such a way detailed here. It's not just a simple matter of launching one off and buzzing around for a little while.
@@AlienDrones Question ,,Under those lighting conditions that day how far do you suspect you could visually see the drone if you were to turn your head away for a moment and then look back to find it? I read a scientific study a year or so ago where they did this type of testing with pilots. They tested this exact scenario, Their conclusion was for a 50% success rate of reestablishing eye contact with the drone, it was less than 2,000 ft away on average, even with large drones.
"Fly it like you stole it." This reminds me of some advice I got long ago about riding a motorcycle. "Ride it like you're invisible." In other words, don't rely on other drivers seeing you. Just assume they can't. That mindset makes you safer. "Fly it like you stole it" to me means don't attract unwanted attention, especially from cops.
Great vid. Best phrase: “Fly it like you stole it” ... I do that all the time. Get in stealthy, fly, get out. Minimize your time and footprint. If someone does approach, 90% of the time I acknowledge them and then show them the view from 200ft or whatever. I have NEVER had anyone complain or threaten after they see the footage live on my monitor. They are usually thrilled to see it, and then I tell them “this is why we fly” and they walk off having had a great experience with a drone in flight.
Exactly bro! I get in, get out. Zero reason to linger after you got the shot. This differs great from tripod photography where the process of taking your time is part of the joy.
I certainly appreciate what you've unselfishly done for the Drone community. I haven't even received my drone yet but it's in the mail. I want to learn everything I can before I even start. The last thing I want it trouble. Thank you.
Your videos are quite helpful. I’m a senior and a beginner who is just embarking on becoming a recreational drone pilot. Was always attracted to this sport.
I found this a very interesting and informative video. Although I'm not currently a drone owner, and I also live in the UK. Actually the more I discover the places it's illegal to fly a drone, or the more places that are restricted, the more it puts me off even getting one! However, as a disabled person, having one would prove very useful because I would be able to photograph things and places I would never physically be able to access.
Thanks for watching and the comments! I see a lot of comments from people in the UK and they say a lot of the places they used to fly, like empty fields and parks are becoming more difficult to find. Not sure if it's a local thing or not but seems like you have to do your homework to find a good spot... Good Luck!
Because those nuts they think they are above the law to scare the person to whom didn't do his Home work before, even they are breaking the law on their duty and after it because I know friend he is state police they are doing everything illegal as shark long with 50% interest like the mafia all of them they put their money with one of them to give those long and to many more they are more crock because they are using their badge to use it for their privet gangs as they tell you I know where you leave.
HERE IS A CRAZY STORY. I was flying my drone, while standing on my property. It was at night, my drone was lit up with lights as required. Suddenly I here a low flying aircraft and reduced my altitude to tree level, which was about 110 feet. The aircraft was a police helicopter. I assumed it was looking for someone, but not me. I knew I was following all the rules in my neighborhood. I had my recreational registration and labelled my aircraft as required. I was just flying around honing my drone/uas piloting skills. However, The police helicopter, turned out to be looking for me and police cars were also searching the streets for me. As an officer suddenly approached, I was landing my drone at the end of my driveway. I had to tell him,"hold on, let me land this thing." He waited. I then told him it was registered, he saw the number on the aircraft. The police helicopter left (but spent $20,000 for fuel, maintenance and pilots pay). Anyway, I left my wallet in the house, so, he followed me to my front door so I could get it. I gave him my registration and drivers license. Told him I was a recreational flyer. I also provided him with copies of the local and federal rules. I keep those in my wallet too, just in case. They took a picture of all the documents I had then simply left. I asked, what happens next? They said nothing they guess. They had no idea what the laws were, until I showed them the FAA statutes. Turns out, a neighbor called and complained about the drone lights hitting their house occasionally as I changed my direction of flight or the light pitched downward when I flew forward. The complaint was simply dismissed by the police that night and they told the person or persons that complained, that I wasn't doing anything illegal and not to bother them or me about flying at night. I still can't believe they used a police helicopter to chase my drone around. But, I followed the FAA rules and stayed away from it and lowered my aircraft as low as I could per FAA rules. The helicopter would come near, and I would keep moving away from this, "manned aircraft". It's funny now. Luckily I copied the regulations. I had all my paperwork in order. Carrying copies of the laws/ statutes is important. Most local police don't know the rules as of yet. So they investigate. Anyway, they don't bother me anymore and no one can complain. So, I fly my drone almost every night now without any harassment. Enjoy your flying folks. Keep copies of every law and interpretation of the laws on you at all times, when you fly. Keep your drone registration and drivers license with you as well. As the guy in video said, "PRACTICE DUE DILIGENCE."
MOST IMPORTANTLY, PRINT OUT FEDERAL AND LOCAL STATUTES AND CARRY THEM WITH YOU WHENEVER YOU FLY. Of course, label your aircraft with the FAA REG number, keep a copy in your wallet and have your drivers license with you.
I have been asked by our local tv station for drone footage of their coverage area, towns, and landmarks. I am part 107 and insured. But flying in new (sub 30,000 population) towns I have discovered that going physically to the police station before I fly has made a huge difference and has put my mind at ease. I ask to speak to someone about flying in town and offer my FAA card, proof of insurance, my business card and any other info they require and make copies of said documents. I also offer my assistance in any future events where I might be helpful. I figure it’s best to be up front with them, let them know why I am here, and if they ask me not to fly then I won’t. All officers and Chiefs I have spoken to has thanked me for coming to them and asking before I fly. To me it is common courtesy and in today’s world people can be suspicious and frightened by the smallest of things, especially a drone flying overhead. Hope this helps as well.
Thanks for the comments! That's great idea, especially if you're providing commercial services w/107. This could head off roll-ups by the police if they already know about it. For recreational I would think it may not be as useful, and I'd be worried that the police don't really know the law and tell you something is illegal when it's not, but that being said, who wants to argue wit the police anyway. Better to know their ignorance or bias before you're confronted, so overall, think it's a win. Do you have a commercial insurance for a "drone business" or a rider of some sort from your personal insurance? Liability, property damage, etc.? Just curious. Good Flying!
This is what I would do, as well. Why would you *not* openly communicate about your planned legit activities unless you really are surveilling or just plain snooping where you shouldn't be? People have reached the tipping point on privacy issues. Of course, the ironic thing is most of those who are confrontational with drone operators are happily blitzing their data all over social media and email, with no idea that for hackers, they're very easy to surveill.
As a new drone owner and learning the ropes as I go, it’s very helpful to come across videos here on TH-cam that explain some of the nuances of uas operations. I’ve learned much from watching videos and have made the online acquaintance of the FAA a number of times already whenever I don’t understand something. Thank you for the information you’re sharing Alien Drones.
Thank you so much for making this video!!!! TREMENDOUS VALUE!!! People say research federal/state/local laws before flying, but no one ever shared how to do all that in such details.
Thank You for your kind words! I try to help the community where I can and also noted that I only saw the FAA guidelines and no details on anything else. I think that's because it's such a pain! LOL. Good Flying!
Thank you and very informative. I’m new to drones and found myself going through the same steps. I was thinking I was going overboard but you confirmed my thoughts and my process. It’s unfortunate that the laws are so complex.
23:36 - Great sage advice! I'm mostly a still photographer and have been using the "fly it like u stole it" advice for ages, particularly in crowded or semi-crowded situations. I have never been hassled. But, I make it a point to: - be respectful of everyone's privacy - never purposely photograph an individual if I don't know them or have permission to do so - anyone who has asked NOT to be photographed, I thank them and do not - and if I have photos that include them, I delete them without argument - I would want others to do the same for me - never, EVER photograph a child unless I know the parents or guardians and have explicit permission to do so (and, I always share the preview photo with them and offer to send them a copy via text or email) This is just common sense. If I see something interesting to photograph, I get the shot, check the preview, and move on. Lingering or staring raises red flags in everyone's mind. "Get the shot and get going" has worked well for many years. Huge thanks for a thoughtful, thorough, and detailed video. I know it took some time and effort to put this together - thanks for sharing! I'm hoping to add aerial footage to my portfolio soon. Best wishes!
Just came across this video. Love It! I try to be a responsible drone operator and have went through similar research on some area's were I want to fly. One was an Army Corp of Engineers park. The ranger told me UAS are not permitted to fly in the park. An email to the District Ranger yielded the same response along with a reference to the regulation number. A little research on the regulation in question and I found a Army Corps of Engineers document stating that all they can regulate is take offs and landings and that the FAA regulates the airspace. I printed it out and carry it with me just in case there's a problem. Subscribed.
Very well done! One can save a lot of potential hassles by doing this and using the "fly it like you stole it" mantra. My primary drone use is for photographing something with an elevation advantage - and most of the time that is no more than about 30-50 feet - pop up, get the shot and get down, switch to a standard camera, and continue whatever I was doing. The state and local regulators are not in most cases concerned about their visitors as much as they enjoy making it difficult for anyone to pursue virtually anything that has the slightest chance of pissing someone off. Thanks for putting this video together. Folks who want to save any possible hassles will do well to do their research just like you did! Again - Great Work!
Thank you for your kind words! Sometimes I can't figure out why a law or rule is passed the way it is, I often ponder if as a child their sibling dropped them on their head or something ... 😎 Good Flying!
I concur with other Drone enthusiasts here that this video is very helpful. I'm a beginner that wants to do the right thing as well and appreciate this helpful guidance.
I just got myself the dji mini pro 4 and am loving the thing. I have no problem flying it to the beach having a look around there and still have power left when I get it back home and that's flying from Caversham so that's not too bad 👍
Thanks for this - it's really useful. I have a great suggestion for everyone reading this. You do all that research on the federal, state, and local level - you need to do that. What I do, is print out all the relevant regulations and so on, and put them into a three-ring binder, with a huge label that reads, "Why I'm allowed to fly here". I have it ready to hand to anyone (LEO, Karen) who hassles me.
Thanks for this info. I'm glad you pointed out the supersedence of FAA's jurisdiction of navigable airspace over state or local regulations. I was previously unaware of that. Now I feel more informed as to the laws overall.
Good info.. although that title is partially misleading.. "how to fly a drone anywhere" but then at 4:12 confirms not anywhere legally. I'm surprised they replied to your email in a timely manner let alone replying at all. I called my local PD, took them a few tries to find me the right person to talk with. Finally they connected me with an LT who was their PD drone pilot. I explained my intentions, that I understood the FAA laws, checked TFR's and looked on the b4ufly app and was trying to gather any local laws that I could not find online. He told me what I needed to know for local ordinance and I requested a work number just incase an officer approached me who may not be fully up to speed on drone laws for the area. Not a bad experience.
I know I’m watching this 11 months after it was posted, but this is still a very informative, helpful and useful video. Great info and great tips for both hobbyists and Part 107 pilots. Thanks!!
Excellent information I am still learning about all these rules I had no idea when I became interested in flying my drone I am a licensed FAA and I have taken all my test and have my FAA numbers but I am still so nervous.
Indeed it seems to be a lot, but you're doing the right thing learning what you can. If you do your best to follow the rules you'll be fine! If you have specific questions let me know, happy to help. 🤙
Very helpful video. This is the video that all new drone flyers should watch. Local ordinances do exist and I treat them as invisible no flying zones because the app won’t show them. I recently got the Mini and I’m finding out the hard way that local restrictions prohibit and taking off and landing on private properties or park districts.
Thank you for your kind words! Honestly, I think the reason no one is talking about this is most people don't want to hear it (I know I didn't) and will deny it, even though it is reality. Most want to peck at an app and be all done, take off and fly. ...and that may work, until it doesn't. Good Flying!
I'm doing research for a project that would require recording from a drone and talking to local township officials about their restrictions. I found it interesting that they have ordinances against drone use in their parks, but none of them have placed signs saying so. You just have to know i guess.
I left California August 3, 2020. Moved to El Paso Texas. Bought my first drone - the Mavic Mini. As a newbie I am going to use the Mavic Mini to film the building of my home and time lapse the construction of the neighborhood. Currently there are no restrictions, other than the 400 ft. limit, because it is in an area just being developed. As a new flyer though I discovered one restriction I have no control over - The Wind! Great Video and will kept your advise to heart as there are other areas in El Paso that do have restrictions were I would like to fly.
Awesome, glad it was useful for you! Ahh yes, the Mini is awesome but it can get pushed around a bit easier than some of the larger UAVs, but still capable none the less. I try and keep the wind under 15 MPH to fly, though I have tested it in 25 MPH and I was able to keep stable, but I had to be careful that I returned WITH the wind as if I didn't I would have ran out of juice way before it made it home. Good Flying! 👽🛸
@@AlienDrones I flew my mini today for first time. Everything went well. A little choppy moving camera up and down. I'm sure I'll eventually acquire the muscle memory. Was fun!
First off thank you for the very helpful video. Secondly it seems like someone needs to come up with a website specifically geared to flying drones in specific areas, so someone doesn't have to go through the complete hassle of contacting all those entities to find out where you can fly as well as take off legally. It could be some sort of "Yelp" for the drone community, yet a little more interactive, allowing pilots to not only comment on updated local regulations but to share details about what to avoid, or what worked for them when they flew a certain area.
You know, I thought about that but not sure how to keep it complete or current. Even when I flew this pier the ordinance changed right before I researched it. Who would be liable if the site said "good to go" and you get a ticket or your UAV confiscated? Perhaps if it were a paid service someone else could do the research, but not sure how much I'd be willing to pay rather than do it myself either... Good thinking though, I agree this would be really cool if implemented somehow... Good Flying!
most major cities have drone clubs,they will email copies of where drones can fly legally for free,some cities require permits in certain areas to land and take off
I practice the "fly it like you stole it" method as well and honestly attribute it to why I have never been questioned by anyone. I also take an assessment of the people around me prior to flying. Thanks for the great material!
Thank you for the very informative video. I am waiting for my drone to arrive and just checking out all the crazy rules and regulations. I had no idea!
You're welcome! If you have questions let me know, happy to help. There is a lot of bad info out there so be purposeful what you take to heart... There's a recent video that summarizes rules and regs in the US here: th-cam.com/video/b3yQYl7eAeQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks so much for this video -- very thorough and great approach to a complicated topic. I've added links to this and your two videos with the FAA on my own local drone resource site. My county has very draconian drone laws, starting with the faulty premise “Drones can fly at altitudes below the navigable airspace (generally at 400 feet) which is not within the jurisdiction, regulation and control of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)." The laws then go on to vilify drone use and prohibit flight over nearly all property that is not either owned by the drone operator or for which the drone operator has consent. I have reached out to our Country Executive and the legislator responsible for the law and was told "We believe we have passed a proper law and would have to deal with a challenge in Court if ever brought.” I spoke with the FAA and confirmed exactly what you did (as a Part 107 pilot, I already knew this, but wanted to be thorough). There is one case, Singer v. City of Newton, which resulted in the law being struck down by Federal Preemption. Perhaps nobody wanted to be the test case yet in my county, but I intend to do exactly what you did and if I have to be the test case, so be it.
Thanks for the kind words, glad it was useful to you! I have a feeling there's a lot of areas that simply need to be challenged and when they lose it will start setting the precedents... 🤙
As a new Mavic mini owner I found this highly informative. Thank you for breaking it down. Excellent, information and very well presented. You totally rock!
i cant wait to watch this video, i will here shortly but if i "follow the Rules" here where i live, which so far i have done.. meaning i just cant use my drone. then i may as well just get rid of it before i get to use it, in Kansas because of state and county and city laws, i cant use mine anywhere. ill watch this video to see if im missing something.
Great video! So basically if my buddy owns a house in a neighborhood and gives me permission to launch/Land/operate from his driveway so I can fly around the neighborhood as long as I’m following FAA rules and guidelines, the local ordinances that say I can’t fly over private property is invalid and quite frankly against the law!
WOW !! Can't believe all the restrictions. Like you said, "They" are trying to regulate the hell out of Drone Flying in hopes you'll find it too cumbersome to Fly anymore.
Thanks for the comment! Indeed, if you can't legally _regulate_ and _enforce_ what you don't like then _intimidate_ in hopes of restricting others from doing it... Sad, and certainly shows a lack of tolerance and character do do such a thing IMHO... Good Flying!
Hi Alien. :) A little late to this Comment session, but I just wanted to add a couple thoughts. First of all, great job laying out your process. I've gone thru this same flow a few times now when flying out of state, out of the area and in the next town over. It's what you have to do, in order to fly legally in the U.S. at the moment. My gripe with it (the regulations, not your video), is this: 1) the search process can be different each time, and there's no consistency between how States, Cities, and local Municipalities document and lay out their information and laws. For people like you and me (and many others commenting), we want to, and are trying to do the right thing but this inconsistency can make it difficult and nearly impossible to know that you've actually found ALL the possible laws that might affect your flight. We all need to advocate for consistency to make this work efficiently. 2) because of the inconsistency and difficulty, I think people often give up the search for all applicable laws and just go for it. Part 107 certified or not. Also, think about how many people own a drone and have NO IDEA about any of this. I've met people just like that. I've heard people say "the FFA" or "the FDA" and things like that. Or even that "this is just a toy. I don't have to look up laws to use my toy." So, the part that concerns me a bit is to think about the situation where you or I do all the due diligence that we can and we miss something because of the challenges mentioned, and we inadvertently break a law/ordinance, etc., but because we are "Part 107 Certified Pilots" we get reprimanded and maybe lose our Certificate, whereas the person unaware/ignorant to everything has a means to get out of any issue, just because they didn't know. And they don't have a Certificate so who cares? I haven't seen this happen (yet), but it is a concern of mine. Again, advocacy for consistency in how we can get the information needed will help all of us. Even those who don't know they need help. So, as you mentioned, all those reading this should take the action to advocate for ease and consistency in drone laws, at least across our nation. Cheers!
Thanks for your well thought out comments! A relevant quote comes to mind: “Sometimes a man wants to be stupid if it lets him do a thing his cleverness forbids.” ― John Steinbeck. I long to be like that sometimes, Lol. Good Flying!
When I fly towns, I usually fly around 200ft. You can't hear my mini 2 that high up, and unless you know it's there, it's hard to spot. I typically find a place off the beaten path to launch from. And the total flight is usually less than 10 mins. Gone before most people would even be able to find me
The “bonus tip”, is why I have only flown my drone once since 2018. I hate having to sneak around as if I was doing something illegal, when I’m just trying to be a responsible RC flier. I have 2 questions. How close were you to flying directly over the pier & people on it? My federal aviation regulations state that a drone must stay 30 meters horizontally away from persons not involved in the navigation of the drone. How well did you retain LOS while flying near the end of the pier, when you were standing so far away? I have experienced a quad disappearing into the sky, I knew where it was from the display, but I had to turn back before I could truly see it.
Hey, I get it. That being said, as I become more and more confident that I'm piloting responsibly and legally ("I'm Gumby Damn-it" keeps coming to mind) the less worried I am about being approached, and if I am approached I make sure to always have my camera rolling and that I'm mic'd up, if nothing else it will make a great video someday! LOL. I have been approached a couple of times lately and they have surprisingly been very positive. I take the time to educate those who might be confused and am willing to take comments too... well, sometimes... I usually fly with a visual observer as well that keeps an eye trained up while I look down at the controller to confirm specifically where the UAV is located. I use the gimbal down "button" a lot to flip instantly up/down to see what is directly below so parallax doesn't distort my location perception. Good Flying!
I have a DJI Mini SE purchased. It is being delivered December 24th along with some accessories. I appreciate your work and the work of many others teaching us. The more I study on TH-cam, the more I think the purchases I made are a mistake. I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. There are millions of people here. I used to fly part 107 MaxAir two seat ultralights here on floats. We could land on the bays and lakes. We got squeezed out. I don't want to worry about confrontations or arrest. May return the drone. Just heard DJI is a part of the Chinese military industrial complex. Hard to have clean safe fun these days. Sad times.
No worries! I had the same realization a few years ago. If you do your due diligence though and get to know how your locals react you will be able to find a lot of good but curious people. Make friends with the local police as well, that way when they get a call, they'll say "That's Mr. Oneal, he's a responsible certified pilot flying legally, but thanks for checking on it with us! If you have any other issues give us a call." Well, or so we would hope! Lol. Good Flying friend!
Very useful video. I just got my drone. I first tried it around the house just to practice, then planned a first flight around our local lagoon. I did the FAA clearance thing (registered, got my code and all) as we're in controlled airspace, so I did that and kept below 100ft. As I was finishing and landing, a very angry lady, not dissimilar to that lady in your video, started screaming at me. I couldn't hear her (background noise not drone!), and she kept shouting --- until I heard her say - 'get that drone out of my back-yard'. Of course I wasn't in her back yard. But the point is that people don't like them near their houses, disturbing their peace (actually I don't think I would've made any noise) and privacy - probably, as it was a real perfect spot for drone flying, there have been many people overusing that take-off / landing spot. Anyways, I get her point and moved quickly. But it is a shame that as drone flyers, we're becoming pariahs. It's more the noise - if the drones were quieter they'd be less obvious. My best approach is to get up and down as quickly as possible --- the actual flight at 100ft (or higher) I think is inaudible.
Indeed. I find the platinum is one of the best, about 150' before it is hard to hear, others are higher than that. I'm not a big fan of flying where there are a lot of people around, only takes one to ruin your day, legal or not. Good Flying
Please help me to understand something. You went through all that work to fly legally and then you flew over the pier and directly over people without their permission. Rule 8 right on the FAA website says, "Never fly over any person or moving vehicle".
Ha! A good magician can make you see things the way he wants you to see them, not the way they are! Abracadabra! ✨Nope, did not fly directly over people, but this lets me know i did a good job editing! Was actually over the water and with the wide angle camera I centered, zoomed and slightly adjusted the angle in post to give it a nice, centered flight path look. Good Flying!
Alien Drones My first thought was the very same thing... glad you clarified that. Thank you for the informative video. It might have been good to put a disclaimer before awesome footage that you did not fly over people as many people will assume you did and not read the comments. Great video none the less!
I get that, although, given a 107 licensed pilot just put in probably 40 hours making a video about legal UAV flying it would be nice once in a while to be given the benefit of the doubt, and the questions were more like "how did you make it look like you flew directly over the pier? Cool!" 😎 Good Flying!
@@AlienDrones I can definitely appreciate the time involved in making the videos. some folks do not know just how much time it takes. You have peaked my interest on how you did it. I just assumed that you cropped the shot to move the center point over, but I truly would like to know how you did it because it looked as if you flew directly over. again awesome footage and a great video!
That and metal detecting. I've had so many people come up to me over both and put their nose in my business. Unbelievable the arrogance of some people. I grew up in the 70's and people weren't so nosy back then.
I love the video as well. I have a lake that is near me that is army corp of engineer property and they prohibit operation on their property. However, there is a state owned/public road that is adjacent to the lake with clear line of sight of the lake. I have searched and see no FAA, county, or state drone regulations in the area other than the army corps. My question is can you launch and operate from say the shoulder of public road right of way as long as you do not fly over the highway with your drone. And really this question applies to about any situation where there is a public street near to the feature that want to fly near.
As long as it is not _restricted_ airspace -or- if the local jurisdiction has placed some ordinance about "operating" drones (meaning the location of the pilot operating the remote), then this is a valid way to approach this, for sure! Sounds like you have done your due diligence regarding the local regs s sounds like you're good! Doesn't mean an ignorant person can't still hassle you (Think Barney Fife) , but you'd be in the right... You can fly over the highway, BTW, just not over the traffic...👽🛸
Great video! I’ve been doing the same research and it served me well. I got challenged this Spring by a County Park & Rec employee at Anna Maria Island in Florida. What he was telling me ( can’t fly here) did not jive with my research. He told me to call the Sheriffs Dept and they would back him up. I did, explained what I was told and my research and the nice dispatch lady said as long as your in compliance with the FAA we do not mind at all. Felt really proud of myself for knowing the facts. I got some great dolphin video as a bonus!
I don't think it's "ruined", it's just more difficult to do. I think it's all worth it when you have the finished product you do. I've only been doing it for a year now and follow these steps. It does suck going through this just to make sure you're covered, but when I see the final shots, video, etc, it's worth it.
"Fly it like you stole it". Generally, I do try to minimize my time spent at a location and do take off and land somewhat remotely but, as you mentioned, drones (and pilots wearing bright green vests as warnings) tend to bring some attention to themselves. While piloting, I avoid conversations and have a handout to give the curious something to read while I'm working and paying attention to my $1600 'toy'. The brochure first reminds them that it is a felony to interfere with a pilot during flight. It then goes on to providing them with contact information for authorities who can address their concerns. SOMETIMES that is sufficient. Great and informative video,... thank you.
Thank you for the kind words and the informative comments! I don't have a formal "sheet" yet, but I'm in the process of having one when I don't have a VO along. That's a great idea! Good Flying!
2 absolutely NO things with this issue: 1 CIVILIANS being able to track pilots/info., & 2 paying extra for flying. Enough with obstructions, restrictions, prohibitions, requirements and fees!
I also want to add and say thank you for making this video. Definitely tops all of the other drone videos for this reason alone. Thanks for showing us how to do all of this. The video wasn't too long or too short, straight to the point and you also included everything on the screen for us to follow along :) 👍
Thank you very much for the kind words! It was a hard one to make for sure so I'm glad it was helpful to you! Know that the kind comments you post do mean a lot to creators who wear their creativity on their sleeves, so keep it up, it's appreciated! Good Flying! 👽🛸
Hello, there is not a specific link to all the documents. I had some emailed, physically mailed, downloaded or screen-shot most of them. That is one of the difficulties is this stuff doesn't exist in an easily accessible, compiled location. For the federal information though some of the links are here: www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/302/text/eah and Here: ://faadronezone.faa.gov/#/, and here: www.faa.gov/uas/. I'd think a lot of the other reference stuff shows a title which could probably be located if you wanted to reproduce it. Good Flying!
4 years later and this video is just what I needed as I unbox my very first drone! One clarity question on the pier footage - did you have to stay put on Linda Lane to control the drone even once your drone was in the air? If you’d walked closer to the pier, would you have been in that yellow/pink restricted zone operating the controller of the drone and that’s not allowed? Or once you’ve launched the drone from an approved location, can you follow it so long as you land it back at the approved location? I’m thinking based on the wording of the FAA law you had to stay put but just wanted to make sure I was understanding that correctly.
Thanks! I've often thought of updating the video but then I watch it and find the info still holds perfectly true today. Indeed, you don't have to "stay put" per se but you can't "operate the remote" from within the "restricted" areas at any time. Just think of where you're standing and the airspace where your drone is flying as two separate _zones_ that can be _restricted_ or _allowed_ independently. To be truly legal you need both to be in the _allowed_ category at all times... The rules are nuanced, confusing and have changed a lot so the FAA knows me on a first name basis because I call and write so much to clarify. So if you have questions let me know, happy to help! 😎
@@AlienDrones Thanks so much for the reply! That helps clarify things. It really is very nuanced and more to it than I originally considered before buying my drone. I just wanted to learn how to use one and for now I’m just going to practice on my family’s farm but still want to learn the rules in case I decide to venture out - thanks again!
Really do like all of your videos. They do help, thank you for sharing them. I always do ask. And try to fly in a legal location. So far, I have been getting all of my information. From here on TH-cam. Wish that there were more drone stores out there. For drone repairs, and for more information. Someone to talk to. Thanks again, for your channel here.
Love your video for information reasons. Also love that is about a town I lived in . And spent a lot of time on and around that pier. It has been restored from storm damage. Love to see the footage .As I'd like to show my wife, here in the midwest. That area that I grew up around . Happy flying
I live in Santa Cruz. I have a number of friends that are lifetime surfers and therefore pretty good at it. I am hoping to be able to film them at some point (DJI Mavic Air 2) and provide them with the footage. The location would be 'Steamers Lane' which is a famous spot. I'll do my diligence beforehand of course, so thanks for the 'methodology' to do the proper research. I'm betting that it is going to be a restricted area, I've never seen anyone flying there yet. Anyway, I'll find out soon I'm sure. Good video, one of the best I've found on this subject so far.
Thank you for your kind words! I've surfed Santa Cruz many times. Steamer Lane is by the surfer museum, and is an awesome spot, but would eat me up! I do watch and learn there though. There is a Marine sanctuary North of the point so be careful of that. I usually stick closer to Cowells myself, with the other 300 surfers, lol. Take off and land will probably be your issue, maybe heading out on a paddle board, kayak or surf board and launching from there if the land is too contentious, where there's a will there's a way! You'll need this video if you do: ( th-cam.com/video/FFO9K6-8BBY/w-d-xo.html ). Let me know if it works out for you. 😎 Good Flying!
Sso since the FAA regulates air space , and city's can dictate where you can land and take off from. Can a city not allow you to fly over city owned property such as parks and recreational areas? As long as your taking off and landing in a allowed area?
The city would like you to think that and they word ordinances to trick you into believing that is true, but they cannot do that. FAA has sole jurisdiction of the airspace.
Nicely done. I have been writing standards of practice for both government and private industry for 50 years. Your sequence is spot-on. Hence, I use a fairly detailed log which covers my....oh you know.
First mistake, going to a communist/socialist police state. Thank you very much for sharing your video. I just bought a Mavic 2 Pro on May 1st 2020. I have only been flying in my yard in beginner mode since yesterday, to get used to the controls and try to figure out the best camera settings to record with. The first 2 days was registering my drone, ordering identification/registration tags to place on my drone, reading the documents and checking the FAA site and watching TH-cam videos. A lot of people just buy charge and fly without doing the due diligence stuff. I was looking at videos for good camera settings and found your video, I subscribed lol. I did not consider state or local agencies having rules or ordinances. No one else on TH-cam that I have seen and I have seen a lot! They never mentioned anything about those other considerations. Thank you so much and keep putting the word out!
Thank you for your kind words! I found the same thing when piloting, that everyone talks about the FAA but no one talks about the local authorities who will be the ones showing up. I really wish there would be federal rules only so every state couldn't have different laws, BUT I don't want more big brother either... sigh. Good Flying!
Great information! I love your systematic approach and showing us the steps you took to plan a legal drone flight. And yes, I agree with you on the intentional confusion in the San Clemente Ordinance. Good catch!
Excellent video, I'm in Pa and I'm going to try to find these out. I have a mini. Right now, I'm just flying over my house just getting used to flying. Since it's a mini, should I still register it? Should I get a license anyways?
Thanks for the questions! Right away I'd just get the hang of piloting around the house and continue to hone your skills. There's no hurry to register or get a 107 certificate immediately. That being said, if after some experience you find that you love the hobby and want to continue, and want to do better and more intricate missions, like taking video and pictures and maybe even posting some awesome results to social media like your FB page or TH-cam, absolutely, register and plan to get your 107. I'm finishing a video now talking about this subject and why the 107 will mean a lot more in the future so don't even think about it, just do it. You'll see exactly why in the next video... Until then, good flying!
@@AlienDrones I highly appreciate the responses. What would dangerous wind speed be to not fly in? I know this drone is prone to a fly away. Today I could hear the props fighting the wind in the air. I just landed and called it a day. I have not gone over 100 feet yet.
Question: If local ordinance cannot prevent you from flying over private property, how can they prevent you from flying over state parks? Excellent video. very thorough. I may have missed the info i ask about.
Thanks for the kind words! Really, they can't prevent you from flying OVER a state park, just can't launch, control or land in/from a state park. It is one of those areas that is a bit contentious, because they could claim disturbing the peace or harassing wildlife, something like that, but they cannot control the airspace, unless it is a designated wildlife preserve, bird sanctuary, something like that... Barney Fief park ranger could still write you a ticket of some sort, and though it wouldn't be a valid ticket, you'd still have to fight city hall...
Indeed, that's a pain, but they can't legally do that. Maybe take-off and landing zones but airspace is public use and regulated by the federal government, so it can't be changed by the state... 👎 to the cities, hope someone slaps them with a lawsuit, because the city will lose...
Awesome 👍 thanks!!! I'm a new drone user and this is definitely gonna help me save money!!! Awesome video footage at the end!!! Thanks again!!! Have a great day!!!
Extremely useful video, thank you! I was doing most of this already but I learned a few new things and its great to know others are having to jump through these hoops as well.
Excellent work !!! Yes I ALWAYS carry a HARD COPY (and i have the link saved on my phone) of the FAA Rule about who controls the AIRSPACE... just as long as you abide by state a local parks and landmarks you will be fine !!!
I fly a non line of sight FW FPV drone up to 50 miles (one way then 50 miles back) in the US (in MI in particular). Mine is gas powered and i do fly it like I stole it. Rock solid advice!
I live near a prominent beach pier, and I mostly fly at sunrise, when there are very few people out. The skies are much more pretty in the early morning, too.
This is among the most helpful, informative, and practical presentations you will find on the topic of drone regulations and flight laws. Well done, Kieth. Thank you!
I have a question, as a new drone pilot I am concerned with what is considered "flying over people"? I know its all subjective, but at 26:17 minutes into your video it appears as though you flew directly over the people on the pier? What are some good, safe, guidelines at to not get into trouble with this?
Thanks for the question! The wide angle camera and some simple re-centering of the shot during editing makes it appear nice and centered for an awesome looking flight path even though that's not actually where it is. Manipulation of footage in post to make things seem like they're not IS the point, to create exciting, cinematic shots! No one wants to see a crooked, off center, boring flight path! The regulation is to not fly directly over people not directly involved with your flight. An easy way to do this is to point the camera straight down and see what is directly below (I use the button on the bottom of the remote often to quickly point down and back up while I make trial runs of my flight). This way it's pretty easy to see what is 'exactly' below as parallax will make it hard to tell if your looking from your ground perspective, rather than the camera itself. Most of the time I also use a visual observer as they call out things that are going on with the aircraft and the area itself (like those freaking seagulls!) when I look down to check telemetry or camera framing and such. Hope this helps. 😎 Good Flying!
Thank you for this great video. I have a drone that I consider very safe to fly. One of the features I like about it is that if you feel that you are in trouble while flying, and if it is safe to do so, you just let go of the controls and the drone will stop dead in its tracks and await your next command. I haven't flown it in a couple of years because of all the anti-drone garbage going on, so much so that the batteries will no longer fit inside the drone because of swelling. In order to start flying again, I would have to invest in a new set of batteries, a remote ID module and wading through a ton of regulations and TRAPS to feel confident out there. The material investment would probably be more than the original cost of my drone. Your video brought me to the conclusion that I would be better off selling my drone and, perhaps, start collecting insects as a new hobby. I feel that I am intelligent enough to handle regulations. It is the TRAPS and harassment by malicious or uninformed individuals and police officers (from experiences) that I am concerned about. Thanks again for helping me make this decision. By the way, the title should have read "How to fly a drone in the 'low-on-the-hog' locations"
Thank you for the kind words! Keep in mind that this is one of the worst areas I've come across which makes it a decent example, but isn't typical for a lot of areas. Perhaps I'm more stubborn than most in wanting to "find a way", but I get it too, the rules are supposed to be for safety, not to diminish the hobby in such a way to eliminate all the fun... 😎
Great video. A run down of the many disparate considerations of legal traps involved with this hobby. You have inspired me to cover all the bases in flying at a local park where this activity grew from being non-existent in 2013 to monthly and even weekly racing in 2016-17 or so to now being deserted in 2020. Did I miss something? Presently I see nobody there. Maybe the laws have changed. Motivation for me to not be ignorant. Best advice take away from this video: Gather all available papers of applicable government, print out hard copies and keep in your flight case for reference. Thanks Keith
Love your comment about not harassing local wildlife: because: some years back I was flying a nano #quadcopter in a park where other RC aircraft flew legally under a local club: when a humming bird came upto my drone. Best guess is they sounded about the same and the little guy just came over to say hello, fair, so I hovered with a slow sink to try and cautiously leave the air. Even in line of sight I'm not exactly shure what happened next as the humming bird started attacking the drone (guessing it didn't say hi back) but next thing we knew there were multiple humming birds attacking as the drone was stalled to prevent injury to the birds. Okay so the drone hit the ground and after a couple of bounces the birds left. Waited several moments to let everyone settle down because humming birds may be small but they outfly everything & have a temper. All packed up & a note on the flight board we went to retrieve & switch off the drone & boy do those little guys move (ohh ouch)! We investigated what was going on and why we suddenly had a flock of humming birds 🐦 where none had been before. Well apparently the neighborhood association had put up a number of butterfly gardens & feeders around the flight field & the flock had moved into the flight field privacy screening that season. Never mind the FAA our flight field got grounded by our newest neighbors the humming birds... so who's harassing whom, lol Just a fun story of what happened before FAA stepped in, even sent them a comment about this incident as birds can be rather territorial during certain seasons.
I've seen some parks regulations say you can't take off or land in open space. Any idea what that means? Any suggestions on the best way to find places you can take off and land from? Also, if you're on your own private property can you take off and land from there?
Not sure what the "open space" means in a park, but honestly I'd just ask someone from the local parks department what it means. Walk up with your UAV and have a friendly discussion, don't ask where you can't fly, ask where you can take off from. Remember that only the FAA can regulate airspace so you can check beforehand that but the take off and landing is the key. As far as your own property you're golden, unless you are in controlled airspace (or TFR). Just check Airmap or a sectional chart for your area to know for sure. There are plenty of places to fly legally, just do a bit of research, act responsibly and you'll be fine... Good Flying!
Local ordinances often criminalize more than what they're allowed to criminalize. Sometimes it's just a bluff, and other times it's because the folks drafting the ordinances don't understand the relevant laws. Unfortunately, cops will usually just rely on the language in those bad ordinances, so law-abiding people are left with the decision about whether it's worth it to risk getting unlawfully cited/arrested. And that risk might also involve having to rely on an appeals court reversing a lower court's bad decision before one actually gets justice.
Awww, you didn't make it to the end? Lol. Yes, absolutely worth it, but not for the initial reasons I intended. Flew around the pier (not over people, though with some creative editing it looks close which WAS the intent 😎 ) and did get some footage though I did have to veer a few times because of the darn seagulls. After all this work, it ended up not being about the footage, exactly, but more about proving it could be done, even in the face of anti-drone activist rule makers. The shots were more confirmation that "I have arrived at my destination", if you know what I mean ... Good Flying!
I DID make it to the end. Saw ur vid of how the land area looked. Just yanking ur chain about no over the water and pier video. After all that I WANTED to see that darn pier! Lol. Great info on research. After all that you NEEDED to fly that mission. :). Thanks for the reply and the info.
Wow! Great video. Very concise. Does it still apply in June 2020? Please update this video or make a new one as things change. I will be subscribing and saving this video for reference, and recommend it to others, so please update as necessary. Thanks.
Thank you for your comments! Indeed, this is still applicable. The only exception I would mention is don't take my research for granted specifically in San Clemente as these things change all the time so do your own due diligence, but the process is solid. There are also states that have a "preemption law" that means the state cannot pass laws for UAVs so make sure you research that as well, it is MUCH easier then. I heard there are 13 states now, but haven't found a concise listing that I can confirm that, so if anyone knows of that, let us know as it would be useful. Good Flying!
Yes, absolutely. All of the rules and regulations still apply to any weight drone. Only thing it changes is the requirement of registration in the US, and that is only under certain conditions. ALL other rules and restrictions apply regardless...
@@AlienDrones after I saw your video , I just return my dji mini 2 . I like to take picture , video but I don't want any problem... safe and happy life
Thank you for the kind words! Quick clarification is that you don't need to make money for it to be commercial in nature. 99% of flights are commercial for one reason or another according to the FAA and there's a VERY SMALL exception that is a 44809 (recreational), not the other way around that most believe (or want to believe). That being said, _regardless_ of the _legality_ of it, *IMHO*, a 107 is worth it to me. You do learn a lot more (even though you don't use a lot of it daily) and, if you are ever approached, the FAA 107 certificate goes a long way to diffusing situations, and you'll act more professionally knowing you are legit (assuming you are doing everything legit, lol). Of course if you're going to fly once a year for the kids birthday, not take and share any pics/video and you don't care about the history of aviation and the privilege of being a 107 pilot, then by all means there's room for that too. Long and the short, if you have a passion for it, go for it. If it's just an occasional toy that you'll let the kids fly into walls inside the house, then it's probably not for you. Either way, good flying!
Excellent Video! Thank you for the work and research that you put into the making of this video. New to the drone life, I'm flying the MA2. Can you clarify flying over people and crowds? I noticed you flew over a few on the pier. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful! You cannot fly over people unless they are directly involved with your flight. Although it looks like the flight was over people it wasn't, it was a wider angled shot slightly off center that I centered and zoomed in post for effect. Good Flying!
Thank you! This seams like an ignorant question. Can you fly a commercial registered drone as recreational? Or would I need a separate drone for just that.
No worries, thanks for the question! If you have a part 107 registered drone and you are a part 107 (commercial) pilot, you can fly a commercial mission with the drone but can decide to fly for fun and fly recreationally with the same drone, no problem at all! I just did an interview with a very knowledgeable guy about the different benefits of a part 107 certificate th-cam.com/video/Ap96R6uZ_yE/w-d-xo.html and we talked about that a bit too. Pretty interesting stuff. Good Flyying!
Sir, this was a great video! I love it. I am about to become a Mavic owner and I am so pleased to have an idea of how in-depth I need to do my research. Great, great stuff!! One piece of advice, and I know it's difficult, you just have to tighten up your delivery. It's something, I can't put my finger on. Not terrible, but could be smoother. Still, I love it!!
Is the delivery in the latest video any different? th-cam.com/video/0fsSNHL8Aws/w-d-xo.html . It's been a year since then and that was a fairly early video and I do try to improve every time. Sometimes I succeed in improving and sometimes not... Good Flying!
@@AlienDrones yes, it most certainly is. I am not so savvy has to have looked at the dates! Oops! Sorry. Regardless, it was great and I have subscribed and will watch many more. Thank you!
I've watched a few of your videos on drones, you've convinced me to not spend any more money on drones. Not meant to shoot the messenger, your information is appreciated. My fantasies of camping at my usual isolated part of Lake Powell and getting some great shots of the camp site, no more. Maybe one day a lobby group powerful enough to push back on the government's over reach, but right now, the worry overrides the fun factor. The blanket restrictions without exceptions for the respectful law abiding hobbyist, is wrong. My licensed Mavic Air will be if for me, for now.
Indeed, I get it. I've flown in the National Forests and recreation areas in that area many times, very nice flights, though a bit gusty with the winds. Doing hours of research and investigation does take the fun out of it for sure, and the risk of having Barney Fife walk up and not know what the hell he's talking about, but says it very loud regardless, ruins the day. Someday there may be consistent rules at the federal level and the states won't be able to make crap up, but for now I feel like an outlaw, even though I'm very confident I'm not... Thanks for the thoughts & Good Flying!
I love this video !! I'm a safe flyer and follow the rules. your video explain everything i needed to know now. I like what u said "fly it like u stole it" . Me I film what need and get out of there!!!! GREAT JOB keep up with vids cause these new rules coming we need people like u explaining to US.
Thanks man, appreciate the kind words! Good Flying!
I agree with you, I flight it like I stole it too. I’m very cautious. I hav had any issues. If there’s people around I usually won’t even fly. I do need to learn about these rules though.
Well, seeing that there are so many hassles to flying a drone, I don't think I am going to get one afterall. I didn't have any plans in doing it professionally, just getting one to get some cool video for my own use. It's not worth it to me just to have one recreationally . At least seeing this video opened my eyes to the fact that flying a drone can put one in legal jeopardy if not done in such a way detailed here. It's not just a simple matter of launching one off and buzzing around for a little while.
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AT THE END MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT EVEN GOING TO PURCHES ONE DRONE WITH ALL THIS FAA B.S 🤷🏻♂️
@@AlienDrones Question ,,Under those lighting conditions that day how far do you suspect you could visually see the drone if you were to turn your head away for a moment and then look back to find it? I read a scientific study a year or so ago where they did this type of testing with pilots. They tested this exact scenario, Their conclusion was for a 50% success rate of reestablishing eye contact with the drone, it was less than 2,000 ft away on average, even with large drones.
"Fly it like you stole it."
This reminds me of some advice I got long ago about riding a motorcycle. "Ride it like you're invisible." In other words, don't rely on other drivers seeing you. Just assume they can't. That mindset makes you safer.
"Fly it like you stole it" to me means don't attract unwanted attention, especially from cops.
Thanks for sharing, that's a great analogy and I use that when I ride as well. Good Flying!
Yes, as an older (80yr) biker, I appreciate the concept.
Great vid. Best phrase: “Fly it like you stole it” ... I do that all the time. Get in stealthy, fly, get out. Minimize your time and footprint. If someone does approach, 90% of the time I acknowledge them and then show them the view from 200ft or whatever. I have NEVER had anyone complain or threaten after they see the footage live on my monitor. They are usually thrilled to see it, and then I tell them “this is why we fly” and they walk off having had a great experience with a drone in flight.
Thanks for sharing! Excellent, being an advocate for the community usually pays off for everybody! Good Flying!
You could put up a video of a butterfly and in less than 8 hours some insane person would give it a thumbs down. I just don't know anymore.
Exactly bro! I get in, get out. Zero reason to linger after you got the shot. This differs great from tripod photography where the process of taking your time is part of the joy.
I certainly appreciate what you've unselfishly done for the Drone community. I haven't even received my drone yet but it's in the mail. I want to learn everything I can before I even start. The last thing I want it trouble. Thank you.
No worries, glad it is useful! Lots of stuff on the channel to help, and any questions drop a comment, happy to help if I can! Goof Flying!
Your videos are quite helpful. I’m a senior and a beginner who is just embarking on becoming a recreational drone pilot. Was always attracted to this sport.
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I found this a very interesting and informative video. Although I'm not currently a drone owner, and I also live in the UK. Actually the more I discover the places it's illegal to fly a drone, or the more places that are restricted, the more it puts me off even getting one! However, as a disabled person, having one would prove very useful because I would be able to photograph things and places I would never physically be able to access.
Thanks for watching and the comments! I see a lot of comments from people in the UK and they say a lot of the places they used to fly, like empty fields and parks are becoming more difficult to find. Not sure if it's a local thing or not but seems like you have to do your homework to find a good spot... Good Luck!
Excellent. The one thing that bothers me is encountering a cop that is unaware of drone regulations and has a chip on his shoulder.
That's true, but I find if I'm a good neighbor I've not had any issues. But, it happens. Good Flying!
@K Ppp lol
Because those nuts they think they are above the law to scare the person to whom didn't do his Home work before, even they are breaking the law on their duty and after it because I know friend he is state police they are doing everything illegal as shark long with 50% interest like the mafia all of them they put their money with one of them to give those long and to many more they are more crock because they are using their badge to use it for their privet gangs as they tell you I know where you leave.
HERE IS A CRAZY STORY. I was flying my drone, while standing on my property. It was at night, my drone was lit up with lights as required. Suddenly I here a low flying aircraft and reduced my altitude to tree level, which was about 110 feet. The aircraft was a police helicopter. I assumed it was looking for someone, but not me. I knew I was following all the rules in my neighborhood. I had my recreational registration and labelled my aircraft as required. I was just flying around honing my drone/uas piloting skills. However, The police helicopter, turned out to be looking for me and police cars were also searching the streets for me. As an officer suddenly approached, I was landing my drone at the end of my driveway. I had to tell him,"hold on, let me land this thing." He waited. I then told him it was registered, he saw the number on the aircraft. The police helicopter left (but spent $20,000 for fuel, maintenance and pilots pay). Anyway, I left my wallet in the house, so, he followed me to my front door so I could get it. I gave him my registration and drivers license. Told him I was a recreational flyer. I also provided him with copies of the local and federal rules. I keep those in my wallet too, just in case. They took a picture of all the documents I had then simply left. I asked, what happens next? They said nothing they guess. They had no idea what the laws were, until I showed them the FAA statutes. Turns out, a neighbor called and complained about the drone lights hitting their house occasionally as I changed my direction of flight or the light pitched downward when I flew forward. The complaint was simply dismissed by the police that night and they told the person or persons that complained, that I wasn't doing anything illegal and not to bother them or me about flying at night. I still can't believe they used a police helicopter to chase my drone around. But, I followed the FAA rules and stayed away from it and lowered my aircraft as low as I could per FAA rules. The helicopter would come near, and I would keep moving away from this, "manned aircraft". It's funny now. Luckily I copied the regulations. I had all my paperwork in order. Carrying copies of the laws/ statutes is important. Most local police don't know the rules as of yet. So they investigate. Anyway, they don't bother me anymore and no one can complain. So, I fly my drone almost every night now without any harassment. Enjoy your flying folks. Keep copies of every law and interpretation of the laws on you at all times, when you fly. Keep your drone registration and drivers license with you as well. As the guy in video said, "PRACTICE DUE DILIGENCE."
MOST IMPORTANTLY, PRINT OUT FEDERAL AND LOCAL STATUTES AND CARRY THEM WITH YOU WHENEVER YOU FLY. Of course, label your aircraft with the FAA REG number, keep a copy in your wallet and have your drivers license with you.
I have been asked by our local tv station for drone footage of their coverage area, towns, and landmarks. I am part 107 and insured. But flying in new (sub 30,000 population) towns I have discovered that going physically to the police station before I fly has made a huge difference and has put my mind at ease. I ask to speak to someone about flying in town and offer my FAA card, proof of insurance, my business card and any other info they require and make copies of said documents. I also offer my assistance in any future events where I might be helpful. I figure it’s best to be up front with them, let them know why I am here, and if they ask me not to fly then I won’t. All officers and Chiefs I have spoken to has thanked me for coming to them and asking before I fly. To me it is common courtesy and in today’s world people can be suspicious and frightened by the smallest of things, especially a drone flying overhead. Hope this helps as well.
Thanks for the comments! That's great idea, especially if you're providing commercial services w/107. This could head off roll-ups by the police if they already know about it. For recreational I would think it may not be as useful, and I'd be worried that the police don't really know the law and tell you something is illegal when it's not, but that being said, who wants to argue wit the police anyway. Better to know their ignorance or bias before you're confronted, so overall, think it's a win. Do you have a commercial insurance for a "drone business" or a rider of some sort from your personal insurance? Liability, property damage, etc.? Just curious. Good Flying!
This is what I would do, as well. Why would you *not* openly communicate about your planned legit activities unless you really are surveilling or just plain snooping where you shouldn't be? People have reached the tipping point on privacy issues. Of course, the ironic thing is most of those who are confrontational with drone operators are happily blitzing their data all over social media and email, with no idea that for hackers, they're very easy to surveill.
What drone insurance do you use? How much does it cost?
As a new drone owner and learning the ropes as I go, it’s very helpful to come across videos here on TH-cam that explain some of the nuances of uas operations. I’ve learned much from watching videos and have made the online acquaintance of the FAA a number of times already whenever I don’t understand something. Thank you for the information you’re sharing Alien Drones.
Glad to help! Good Flying!
Thank you so much for making this video!!!! TREMENDOUS VALUE!!! People say research federal/state/local laws before flying, but no one ever shared how to do all that in such details.
Thank You for your kind words! I try to help the community where I can and also noted that I only saw the FAA guidelines and no details on anything else. I think that's because it's such a pain! LOL. Good Flying!
If you ever visit San Clement again or SoCal in general, ping me and we do some flying together it'd be fun!
I'm a new drone enthusiast and you just saved me from alot of problems. Ignorance isn't bliss. Thank you!
You're welcome! A little due diligence might just keep you from being on an episode of "Cops"... LOL. Good Flying!
@@AlienDrones I think cops was cancelled permanently, but point taken.
Thank you and very informative. I’m new to drones and found myself going through the same steps. I was thinking I was going overboard but you confirmed my thoughts and my process. It’s unfortunate that the laws are so complex.
Thanks for taking the time to share, glad it was helpful!
23:36 - Great sage advice!
I'm mostly a still photographer and have been using the "fly it like u stole it" advice for ages, particularly in crowded or semi-crowded situations. I have never been hassled. But, I make it a point to:
- be respectful of everyone's privacy
- never purposely photograph an individual if I don't know them or have permission to do so
- anyone who has asked NOT to be photographed, I thank them and do not - and if I have photos that include them, I delete them without argument - I would want others to do the same for me
- never, EVER photograph a child unless I know the parents or guardians and have explicit permission to do so (and, I always share the preview photo with them and offer to send them a copy via text or email)
This is just common sense. If I see something interesting to photograph, I get the shot, check the preview, and move on. Lingering or staring raises red flags in everyone's mind. "Get the shot and get going" has worked well for many years.
Huge thanks for a thoughtful, thorough, and detailed video. I know it took some time and effort to put this together - thanks for sharing! I'm hoping to add aerial footage to my portfolio soon.
Best wishes!
Just came across this video. Love It! I try to be a responsible drone operator and have went through similar research on some area's were I want to fly. One was an Army Corp of Engineers park. The ranger told me UAS are not permitted to fly in the park. An email to the District Ranger yielded the same response along with a reference to the regulation number. A little research on the regulation in question and I found a Army Corps of Engineers document stating that all they can regulate is take offs and landings and that the FAA regulates the airspace. I printed it out and carry it with me just in case there's a problem. Subscribed.
Awesome, thanks for sharing! A little research and knowledge goes a long way! Good Flying!
That is true. You can fly over their airspace, You just can't land or take off from inside their borders.
Very well done! One can save a lot of potential hassles by doing this and using the "fly it like you stole it" mantra. My primary drone use is for photographing something with an elevation advantage - and most of the time that is no more than about 30-50 feet - pop up, get the shot and get down, switch to a standard camera, and continue whatever I was doing. The state and local regulators are not in most cases concerned about their visitors as much as they enjoy making it difficult for anyone to pursue virtually anything that has the slightest chance of pissing someone off. Thanks for putting this video together. Folks who want to save any possible hassles will do well to do their research just like you did! Again - Great Work!
Thank you for your kind words! Sometimes I can't figure out why a law or rule is passed the way it is, I often ponder if as a child their sibling dropped them on their head or something ... 😎 Good Flying!
I concur with other Drone enthusiasts here that this video is very helpful. I'm a beginner that wants to do the right thing as well and appreciate this helpful guidance.
Glad it was helpful! Good Flying!
I just got myself the dji mini pro 4 and am loving the thing. I have no problem flying it to the beach having a look around there and still have power left when I get it back home and that's flying from Caversham so that's not too bad 👍
Thanks for this - it's really useful. I have a great suggestion for everyone reading this.
You do all that research on the federal, state, and local level - you need to do that. What I do, is print out all the relevant regulations and so on, and put them into a three-ring binder, with a huge label that reads, "Why I'm allowed to fly here". I have it ready to hand to anyone (LEO, Karen) who hassles me.
"The Karen File..." Lol. Thanks for the comments!
Thanks for this info. I'm glad you pointed out the supersedence of FAA's jurisdiction of navigable airspace over state or local regulations. I was previously unaware of that. Now I feel more informed as to the laws overall.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad it was helpful to you, Good Flying!
I don't even own a drone (yet) and I watched this entire video. You made it interesting as well as educational. Thank you.
Thank you for your kind words! I try and make it a little entertaining as I know a lot of rules and regs can be a bit dry so thanks for noticing!
I just got mine but I'm learning the hard way fast haha
Good info.. although that title is partially misleading.. "how to fly a drone anywhere" but then at 4:12 confirms not anywhere legally. I'm surprised they replied to your email in a timely manner let alone replying at all. I called my local PD, took them a few tries to find me the right person to talk with. Finally they connected me with an LT who was their PD drone pilot. I explained my intentions, that I understood the FAA laws, checked TFR's and looked on the b4ufly app and was trying to gather any local laws that I could not find online. He told me what I needed to know for local ordinance and I requested a work number just incase an officer approached me who may not be fully up to speed on drone laws for the area. Not a bad experience.
I know I’m watching this 11 months after it was posted, but this is still a very informative, helpful and useful video. Great info and great tips for both hobbyists and Part 107 pilots. Thanks!!
Glad it was helpful! The process stands the test of time, at least so far! Good Flying!
Excellent information I am still learning about all these rules I had no idea when I became interested in flying my drone I am a licensed FAA and I have taken all my test and have my FAA numbers but I am still so nervous.
Indeed it seems to be a lot, but you're doing the right thing learning what you can. If you do your best to follow the rules you'll be fine! If you have specific questions let me know, happy to help. 🤙
Very helpful video. This is the video that all new drone flyers should watch. Local ordinances do exist and I treat them as invisible no flying zones because the app won’t show them. I recently got the Mini and I’m finding out the hard way that local restrictions prohibit and taking off and landing on private properties or park districts.
Thank you for your kind words! Honestly, I think the reason no one is talking about this is most people don't want to hear it (I know I didn't) and will deny it, even though it is reality. Most want to peck at an app and be all done, take off and fly. ...and that may work, until it doesn't. Good Flying!
I'm doing research for a project that would require recording from a drone and talking to local township officials about their restrictions. I found it interesting that they have ordinances against drone use in their parks, but none of them have placed signs saying so. You just have to know i guess.
I left California August 3, 2020. Moved to El Paso Texas. Bought my first drone - the Mavic Mini. As a newbie I am going to use the Mavic Mini to film the building of my home and time lapse the construction of the neighborhood. Currently there are no restrictions, other than the 400 ft. limit, because it is in an area just being developed. As a new flyer though I discovered one restriction I have no control over - The Wind! Great Video and will kept your advise to heart as there are other areas in El Paso that do have restrictions were I would like to fly.
Awesome, glad it was useful for you! Ahh yes, the Mini is awesome but it can get pushed around a bit easier than some of the larger UAVs, but still capable none the less. I try and keep the wind under 15 MPH to fly, though I have tested it in 25 MPH and I was able to keep stable, but I had to be careful that I returned WITH the wind as if I didn't I would have ran out of juice way before it made it home. Good Flying! 👽🛸
@@AlienDrones I flew my mini today for first time. Everything went well. A little choppy moving camera up and down. I'm sure I'll eventually acquire the muscle memory. Was fun!
@@frankmoralesiii6908 Awesome! Ahhh, you'll always remember your first! 😉 I sweat buckets the first time I flew, was sooo nervous! Good Flying!
First off thank you for the very helpful video. Secondly it seems like someone needs to come up with a website specifically geared to flying drones in specific areas, so someone doesn't have to go through the complete hassle of contacting all those entities to find out where you can fly as well as take off legally. It could be some sort of "Yelp" for the drone community, yet a little more interactive, allowing pilots to not only comment on updated local regulations but to share details about what to avoid, or what worked for them when they flew a certain area.
You know, I thought about that but not sure how to keep it complete or current. Even when I flew this pier the ordinance changed right before I researched it. Who would be liable if the site said "good to go" and you get a ticket or your UAV confiscated? Perhaps if it were a paid service someone else could do the research, but not sure how much I'd be willing to pay rather than do it myself either... Good thinking though, I agree this would be really cool if implemented somehow... Good Flying!
most major cities have drone clubs,they will email copies of where drones can fly legally for free,some cities require permits in certain areas to land and take off
I practice the "fly it like you stole it" method as well and honestly attribute it to why I have never been questioned by anyone. I also take an assessment of the people around me prior to flying. Thanks for the great material!
Thanks for sharing!
Lol...you couldn’t operate your drone off that pier, but someone could set up a tent there!
I think there was!
I bet they don't need a permit to pitch a tent there...
Thank you for the very informative video. I am waiting for my drone to arrive and just checking out all the crazy rules and regulations. I had no idea!
You're welcome! If you have questions let me know, happy to help. There is a lot of bad info out there so be purposeful what you take to heart... There's a recent video that summarizes rules and regs in the US here: th-cam.com/video/b3yQYl7eAeQ/w-d-xo.html
I live in San Clemente and I am now a better understanding of not causing problems for myself...
Indeed! then you know what I'm talking about. I found Laguna Beach to be more pro drone for sure ... Good Flying!
Thanks so much for this video -- very thorough and great approach to a complicated topic. I've added links to this and your two videos with the FAA on my own local drone resource site. My county has very draconian drone laws, starting with the faulty premise “Drones can fly at altitudes below the navigable airspace (generally at 400 feet) which is not within the jurisdiction, regulation and control of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)." The laws then go on to vilify drone use and prohibit flight over nearly all property that is not either owned by the drone operator or for which the drone operator has consent. I have reached out to our Country Executive and the legislator responsible for the law and was told "We believe we have passed a proper law and would have to deal with a challenge in Court if ever brought.” I spoke with the FAA and confirmed exactly what you did (as a Part 107 pilot, I already knew this, but wanted to be thorough). There is one case, Singer v. City of Newton, which resulted in the law being struck down by Federal Preemption. Perhaps nobody wanted to be the test case yet in my county, but I intend to do exactly what you did and if I have to be the test case, so be it.
Thanks for the kind words, glad it was useful to you! I have a feeling there's a lot of areas that simply need to be challenged and when they lose it will start setting the precedents... 🤙
As a new Mavic mini owner I found this highly informative. Thank you for breaking it down. Excellent, information and very well presented. You totally rock!
Thank you for your kind words, glad it was helpful! Good Flying!
i cant wait to watch this video, i will here shortly but if i "follow the Rules" here where i live, which so far i have done.. meaning i just cant use my drone. then i may as well just get rid of it before i get to use it, in Kansas because of state and county and city laws, i cant use mine anywhere. ill watch this video to see if im missing something.
Great video! So basically if my buddy owns a house in a neighborhood and gives me permission to launch/Land/operate from his driveway so I can fly around the neighborhood as long as I’m following FAA rules and guidelines, the local ordinances that say I can’t fly over private property is invalid and quite frankly against the law!
Indeed! Not what you will hear from local officials but you have the gist of it! 👍 _Fly it like you stole it!_
@@AlienDrones thank you for the great insight man! Keep up the good work, i did sub. 👍🏼
WOW !! Can't believe all the restrictions. Like you said, "They" are trying to regulate the hell out of Drone Flying in hopes you'll find it too cumbersome to Fly anymore.
Thanks for the comment! Indeed, if you can't legally _regulate_ and _enforce_ what you don't like then _intimidate_ in hopes of restricting others from doing it... Sad, and certainly shows a lack of tolerance and character do do such a thing IMHO... Good Flying!
Hi Alien. :) A little late to this Comment session, but I just wanted to add a couple thoughts. First of all, great job laying out your process. I've gone thru this same flow a few times now when flying out of state, out of the area and in the next town over. It's what you have to do, in order to fly legally in the U.S. at the moment.
My gripe with it (the regulations, not your video), is this:
1) the search process can be different each time, and there's no consistency between how States, Cities, and local Municipalities document and lay out their information and laws. For people like you and me (and many others commenting), we want to, and are trying to do the right thing but this inconsistency can make it difficult and nearly impossible to know that you've actually found ALL the possible laws that might affect your flight. We all need to advocate for consistency to make this work efficiently.
2) because of the inconsistency and difficulty, I think people often give up the search for all applicable laws and just go for it. Part 107 certified or not. Also, think about how many people own a drone and have NO IDEA about any of this. I've met people just like that. I've heard people say "the FFA" or "the FDA" and things like that. Or even that "this is just a toy. I don't have to look up laws to use my toy." So, the part that concerns me a bit is to think about the situation where you or I do all the due diligence that we can and we miss something because of the challenges mentioned, and we inadvertently break a law/ordinance, etc., but because we are "Part 107 Certified Pilots" we get reprimanded and maybe lose our Certificate, whereas the person unaware/ignorant to everything has a means to get out of any issue, just because they didn't know. And they don't have a Certificate so who cares? I haven't seen this happen (yet), but it is a concern of mine. Again, advocacy for consistency in how we can get the information needed will help all of us. Even those who don't know they need help.
So, as you mentioned, all those reading this should take the action to advocate for ease and consistency in drone laws, at least across our nation.
Cheers!
Thanks for your well thought out comments! A relevant quote comes to mind:
“Sometimes a man wants to be stupid if it lets him do a thing his cleverness forbids.” ― John Steinbeck. I long to be like that sometimes, Lol. Good Flying!
Im glad I’m not alone 👍 I even check wind direction, distance measurements
it's much easier to break the rules than follow them
I guess that's always the case. Even more so when this is implemented: th-cam.com/video/JNpDJle7cyM/w-d-xo.html. Good Flying!
I heard it was easier to ask forgiveness than permission.
When I fly towns, I usually fly around 200ft. You can't hear my mini 2 that high up, and unless you know it's there, it's hard to spot. I typically find a place off the beaten path to launch from. And the total flight is usually less than 10 mins. Gone before most people would even be able to find me
The “bonus tip”, is why I have only flown my drone once since 2018. I hate having to sneak around as if I was doing something illegal, when I’m just trying to be a responsible RC flier.
I have 2 questions. How close were you to flying directly over the pier & people on it? My federal aviation regulations state that a drone must stay 30 meters horizontally away from persons not involved in the navigation of the drone.
How well did you retain LOS while flying near the end of the pier, when you were standing so far away? I have experienced a quad disappearing into the sky, I knew where it was from the display, but I had to turn back before I could truly see it.
Hey, I get it. That being said, as I become more and more confident that I'm piloting responsibly and legally ("I'm Gumby Damn-it" keeps coming to mind) the less worried I am about being approached, and if I am approached I make sure to always have my camera rolling and that I'm mic'd up, if nothing else it will make a great video someday! LOL. I have been approached a couple of times lately and they have surprisingly been very positive. I take the time to educate those who might be confused and am willing to take comments too... well, sometimes... I usually fly with a visual observer as well that keeps an eye trained up while I look down at the controller to confirm specifically where the UAV is located. I use the gimbal down "button" a lot to flip instantly up/down to see what is directly below so parallax doesn't distort my location perception. Good Flying!
Do you have your FAA registration number on your drone some where? If so how and where did you put it.?
Yes, of course, laminated sticky label, across the back. Fits good there... Good Flying!
@@AlienDrones Thank you for the reply. I have the Gopro Karma and the DJI mavic air 2. Was just trying to find a place so it will not get in the way.
I have a DJI Mini SE purchased. It is being delivered December 24th along with some accessories. I appreciate your work and the work of many others teaching us. The more I study on TH-cam, the more I think the purchases I made are a mistake. I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. There are millions of people here. I used to fly part 107 MaxAir two seat ultralights here on floats. We could land on the bays and lakes. We got squeezed out. I don't want to worry about confrontations or arrest. May return the drone. Just heard DJI is a part of the Chinese military industrial complex. Hard to have clean safe fun these days. Sad times.
No worries! I had the same realization a few years ago. If you do your due diligence though and get to know how your locals react you will be able to find a lot of good but curious people. Make friends with the local police as well, that way when they get a call, they'll say "That's Mr. Oneal, he's a responsible certified pilot flying legally, but thanks for checking on it with us! If you have any other issues give us a call." Well, or so we would hope! Lol. Good Flying friend!
Very useful video. I just got my drone. I first tried it around the house just to practice, then planned a first flight around our local lagoon. I did the FAA clearance thing (registered, got my code and all) as we're in controlled airspace, so I did that and kept below 100ft. As I was finishing and landing, a very angry lady, not dissimilar to that lady in your video, started screaming at me. I couldn't hear her (background noise not drone!), and she kept shouting --- until I heard her say - 'get that drone out of my back-yard'. Of course I wasn't in her back yard. But the point is that people don't like them near their houses, disturbing their peace (actually I don't think I would've made any noise) and privacy - probably, as it was a real perfect spot for drone flying, there have been many people overusing that take-off / landing spot. Anyways, I get her point and moved quickly. But it is a shame that as drone flyers, we're becoming pariahs. It's more the noise - if the drones were quieter they'd be less obvious. My best approach is to get up and down as quickly as possible --- the actual flight at 100ft (or higher) I think is inaudible.
Indeed. I find the platinum is one of the best, about 150' before it is hard to hear, others are higher than that. I'm not a big fan of flying where there are a lot of people around, only takes one to ruin your day, legal or not. Good Flying
Please help me to understand something. You went through all that work to fly legally and then you flew over the pier and directly over people without their permission. Rule 8 right on the FAA website says, "Never fly over any person or moving vehicle".
Ha! A good magician can make you see things the way he wants you to see them, not the way they are! Abracadabra! ✨Nope, did not fly directly over people, but this lets me know i did a good job editing! Was actually over the water and with the wide angle camera I centered, zoomed and slightly adjusted the angle in post to give it a nice, centered flight path look. Good Flying!
Alien Drones My first thought was the very same thing... glad you clarified that. Thank you for the informative video. It might have been good to put a disclaimer before awesome footage that you did not fly over people as many people will assume you did and not read the comments. Great video none the less!
I get that, although, given a 107 licensed pilot just put in probably 40 hours making a video about legal UAV flying it would be nice once in a while to be given the benefit of the doubt, and the questions were more like "how did you make it look like you flew directly over the pier? Cool!" 😎 Good Flying!
@@AlienDrones I can definitely appreciate the time involved in making the videos. some folks do not know just how much time it takes. You have peaked my interest on how you did it. I just assumed that you cropped the shot to move the center point over, but I truly would like to know how you did it because it looked as if you flew directly over. again awesome footage and a great video!
Thank you. I'm new to the world of operating a drone, so this is helpful. I try to be a good neighbor in everything I do. So your help is appreciated.
Of course! Have any questions let me know, happy to help!
Drone flying! Best karen bait ever!
LOL, that's funny. Karen "trigger" indeed. Good Flying!
I’m getting a drone for my 14th B-Day and I can’t wait for all the Karen’s
🤣🤣👀😁😁
That and metal detecting. I've had so many people come up to me over both and put their nose in my business. Unbelievable the arrogance of some people. I grew up in the 70's and people weren't so nosy back then.
I love the video as well. I have a lake that is near me that is army corp of engineer property and they prohibit operation on their property. However, there is a state owned/public road that is adjacent to the lake with clear line of sight of the lake. I have searched and see no FAA, county, or state drone regulations in the area other than the army corps.
My question is can you launch and operate from say the shoulder of public road right of way as long as you do not fly over the highway with your drone.
And really this question applies to about any situation where there is a public street near to the feature that want to fly near.
As long as it is not _restricted_ airspace -or- if the local jurisdiction has placed some ordinance about "operating" drones (meaning the location of the pilot operating the remote), then this is a valid way to approach this, for sure! Sounds like you have done your due diligence regarding the local regs s sounds like you're good! Doesn't mean an ignorant person can't still hassle you (Think Barney Fife) , but you'd be in the right... You can fly over the highway, BTW, just not over the traffic...👽🛸
the USA, the land of "personal freedoms"
In reality how often do crashes with "manned aircraft" occur?
Why don't we regulate the flight of birds?
Well, remote ID of Canadian geese seems reasonable to me...
@@AlienDrones I checked the statistics. No collision between a civilian drone and manned aircraft has ever occurred. Only sitings are reported.
@@quinnarter6031 One has to admit the logical possibility that the regulations in fact have something to do with that.
How do you get the state park overlay in Google Earth?
Hi January 2020 view.. im new here.. lets support each other..😍 nice vdeo😍😍😍
Great video! I’ve been doing the same research and it served me well. I got challenged this Spring by a County Park & Rec employee at Anna Maria Island in Florida. What he was telling me ( can’t fly here) did not jive with my research. He told me to call the Sheriffs Dept and they would back him up. I did, explained what I was told and my research and the nice dispatch lady said as long as your in compliance with the FAA we do not mind at all. Felt really proud of myself for knowing the facts. I got some great dolphin video as a bonus!
Indeed, you should be proud, due diligence pays off! Gives you a great feeling for sure. Nicely done! 👽🛸
thank you for the research, this hobby is ruined
LOL, disturbing for sure... more like a job than a hobby at the moment. Good Flying!
you are a great help for the viewers
Yeah, perhaps for the BALL-LESS.
I don't think it's "ruined", it's just more difficult to do. I think it's all worth it when you have the finished product you do. I've only been doing it for a year now and follow these steps. It does suck going through this just to make sure you're covered, but when I see the final shots, video, etc, it's worth it.
Yup😐
Have you needed a VHF aviation transceiver in your UA operations. Is it worth getting one?
Definitely we have too high of taxes hiring all the bureaucrats to control and restrict our lives.
indeed! Good Flying!
"Fly it like you stole it". Generally, I do try to minimize my time spent at a location and do take off and land somewhat remotely but, as you mentioned, drones (and pilots wearing bright green vests as warnings) tend to bring some attention to themselves.
While piloting, I avoid conversations and have a handout to give the curious something to read while I'm working and paying attention to my $1600 'toy'.
The brochure first reminds them that it is a felony to interfere with a pilot during flight.
It then goes on to providing them with contact information for authorities who can address their concerns.
SOMETIMES that is sufficient.
Great and informative video,... thank you.
Thank you for the kind words and the informative comments! I don't have a formal "sheet" yet, but I'm in the process of having one when I don't have a VO along. That's a great idea! Good Flying!
2 absolutely NO things with this issue: 1 CIVILIANS being able to track pilots/info., & 2 paying extra for flying. Enough with obstructions, restrictions, prohibitions, requirements and fees!
this country is becoming over run with regulations. Bunch of damn liberals taking away our freedoms.
I also want to add and say thank you for making this video. Definitely tops all of the other drone videos for this reason alone. Thanks for showing us how to do all of this. The video wasn't too long or too short, straight to the point and you also included everything on the screen for us to follow along :) 👍
Thank you very much for the kind words! It was a hard one to make for sure so I'm glad it was helpful to you! Know that the kind comments you post do mean a lot to creators who wear their creativity on their sleeves, so keep it up, it's appreciated! Good Flying! 👽🛸
Just speak Spanish and the cops will let you go
No habla Ingles 😂
Are there a set of links to the FAA/Federal Document(s) and State Documents mentioned in this video posted?
Hello, there is not a specific link to all the documents. I had some emailed, physically mailed, downloaded or screen-shot most of them. That is one of the difficulties is this stuff doesn't exist in an easily accessible, compiled location. For the federal information though some of the links are here: www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/302/text/eah and Here: ://faadronezone.faa.gov/#/, and here: www.faa.gov/uas/. I'd think a lot of the other reference stuff shows a title which could probably be located if you wanted to reproduce it. Good Flying!
4 years later and this video is just what I needed as I unbox my very first drone! One clarity question on the pier footage - did you have to stay put on Linda Lane to control the drone even once your drone was in the air? If you’d walked closer to the pier, would you have been in that yellow/pink restricted zone operating the controller of the drone and that’s not allowed? Or once you’ve launched the drone from an approved location, can you follow it so long as you land it back at the approved location? I’m thinking based on the wording of the FAA law you had to stay put but just wanted to make sure I was understanding that correctly.
Thanks! I've often thought of updating the video but then I watch it and find the info still holds perfectly true today. Indeed, you don't have to "stay put" per se but you can't "operate the remote" from within the "restricted" areas at any time. Just think of where you're standing and the airspace where your drone is flying as two separate _zones_ that can be _restricted_ or _allowed_ independently. To be truly legal you need both to be in the _allowed_ category at all times... The rules are nuanced, confusing and have changed a lot so the FAA knows me on a first name basis because I call and write so much to clarify. So if you have questions let me know, happy to help! 😎
@@AlienDrones Thanks so much for the reply! That helps clarify things. It really is very nuanced and more to it than I originally considered before buying my drone. I just wanted to learn how to use one and for now I’m just going to practice on my family’s farm but still want to learn the rules in case I decide to venture out - thanks again!
Thank you for such an informative video. I've been looking at buying a drone and this is helpful in making the decision.
Glad it was helpful!
Really do like all of your videos. They do help, thank you for sharing them. I always do ask. And try to fly in a legal location. So far, I have been getting all of my information. From here on TH-cam. Wish that there were more drone stores out there. For drone repairs, and for more information. Someone to talk to. Thanks again, for your channel here.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, it is appreciated!
Love your video for information reasons. Also love that is about a town I lived in . And spent a lot of time on and around that pier. It has been restored from storm damage. Love to see the footage .As I'd like to show my wife, here in the midwest. That area that I grew up around . Happy flying
Thanks for sharing!
I am getting ready to purchase my first drone and this was incredibly helpful. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! If you have questions feel free to browse the channel and drop questions, happy to help!
I live in Santa Cruz. I have a number of friends that are lifetime surfers and therefore pretty good at it. I am hoping to be able to film them at some point (DJI Mavic Air 2) and provide them with the footage. The location would be 'Steamers Lane' which is a famous spot. I'll do my diligence beforehand of course, so thanks for the 'methodology' to do the proper research. I'm betting that it is going to be a restricted area, I've never seen anyone flying there yet. Anyway, I'll find out soon I'm sure. Good video, one of the best I've found on this subject so far.
Thank you for your kind words! I've surfed Santa Cruz many times. Steamer Lane is by the surfer museum, and is an awesome spot, but would eat me up! I do watch and learn there though. There is a Marine sanctuary North of the point so be careful of that. I usually stick closer to Cowells myself, with the other 300 surfers, lol. Take off and land will probably be your issue, maybe heading out on a paddle board, kayak or surf board and launching from there if the land is too contentious, where there's a will there's a way! You'll need this video if you do: ( th-cam.com/video/FFO9K6-8BBY/w-d-xo.html ). Let me know if it works out for you. 😎 Good Flying!
Sso since the FAA regulates air space , and city's can dictate where you can land and take off from.
Can a city not allow you to fly over city owned property such as parks and recreational areas?
As long as your taking off and landing in a allowed area?
The city would like you to think that and they word ordinances to trick you into believing that is true, but they cannot do that. FAA has sole jurisdiction of the airspace.
Great video. Is the faa rule still the same in late 2022?
Thanks! this process still works well today. You can always double check specifically for any changes from the FAA here: www.faa.gov/uas
Thank you so much. Will be going to Pensacola in march. Was worried, but now feel better now.
Awesome, thanks for taking the time to let me know, glad I could help! A little due diligence gives you a lot of confidence for sure. Good Flying!
Excellent video...I just got my first drone and I’m hoping to be as diligent a flier as you are...thanks again!
Awesome! Have fun and remember to _Fly it like you stole it_ too, it will serve you well! Good Flying!
Nicely done. I have been writing standards of practice for both government and private industry for 50 years. Your sequence is spot-on. Hence, I use a fairly detailed log which covers my....oh you know.
Thanks for watching and the comments!
Wow super helpful and well organized video. appreciate you walking through the detailed process you employed here.
Glad it was helpful!
First mistake, going to a communist/socialist police state. Thank you very much for sharing your video. I just bought a Mavic 2 Pro on May 1st 2020. I have only been flying in my yard in beginner mode since yesterday, to get used to the controls and try to figure out the best camera settings to record with. The first 2 days was registering my drone, ordering identification/registration tags to place on my drone, reading the documents and checking the FAA site and watching TH-cam videos. A lot of people just buy charge and fly without doing the due diligence stuff.
I was looking at videos for good camera settings and found your video, I subscribed lol. I did not consider state or local agencies having rules or ordinances. No one else on TH-cam that I have seen and I have seen a lot! They never mentioned anything about those other considerations. Thank you so much and keep putting the word out!
Thank you for your kind words! I found the same thing when piloting, that everyone talks about the FAA but no one talks about the local authorities who will be the ones showing up. I really wish there would be federal rules only so every state couldn't have different laws, BUT I don't want more big brother either... sigh. Good Flying!
Great information! I love your systematic approach and showing us the steps you took to plan a legal drone flight. And yes, I agree with you on the intentional confusion in the San Clemente Ordinance. Good catch!
Thanks, glad it is useful!
Excellent video, I'm in Pa and I'm going to try to find these out. I have a mini. Right now, I'm just flying over my house just getting used to flying. Since it's a mini, should I still register it? Should I get a license anyways?
Thanks for the questions! Right away I'd just get the hang of piloting around the house and continue to hone your skills. There's no hurry to register or get a 107 certificate immediately. That being said, if after some experience you find that you love the hobby and want to continue, and want to do better and more intricate missions, like taking video and pictures and maybe even posting some awesome results to social media like your FB page or TH-cam, absolutely, register and plan to get your 107. I'm finishing a video now talking about this subject and why the 107 will mean a lot more in the future so don't even think about it, just do it. You'll see exactly why in the next video... Until then, good flying!
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I highly appreciate the responses. What would dangerous wind speed be to not fly in? I know this drone is prone to a fly away.
Today I could hear the props fighting the wind in the air. I just landed and called it a day.
I have not gone over 100 feet yet.
Question: If local ordinance cannot prevent you from flying over private property, how can they prevent you from flying over state parks? Excellent video. very thorough. I may have missed the info i ask about.
Thanks for the kind words! Really, they can't prevent you from flying OVER a state park, just can't launch, control or land in/from a state park. It is one of those areas that is a bit contentious, because they could claim disturbing the peace or harassing wildlife, something like that, but they cannot control the airspace, unless it is a designated wildlife preserve, bird sanctuary, something like that... Barney Fief park ranger could still write you a ticket of some sort, and though it wouldn't be a valid ticket, you'd still have to fight city hall...
Appreciate the video, am dealing with two entire cities in my area that won't allow ANY drone operation not sure how to proceed
Indeed, that's a pain, but they can't legally do that. Maybe take-off and landing zones but airspace is public use and regulated by the federal government, so it can't be changed by the state... 👎 to the cities, hope someone slaps them with a lawsuit, because the city will lose...
Awesome 👍 thanks!!! I'm a new drone user and this is definitely gonna help me save money!!! Awesome video footage at the end!!! Thanks again!!! Have a great day!!!
Excellent !....and dont forget to tell All Responsible Drone Pilots to Get Involved in Local and State Laws !
Indeed! Be involved! Most people making regulations have never even seen a drone in person...
Extremely useful video, thank you! I was doing most of this already but I learned a few new things and its great to know others are having to jump through these hoops as well.
Excellent work !!! Yes I ALWAYS carry a HARD COPY (and i have the link saved on my phone) of the FAA Rule about who controls the AIRSPACE... just as long as you abide by state a local parks and landmarks you will be fine !!!
Thank you for the kind words! A little due diligence goes a long way for sure... Good Flying!
I fly a non line of sight FW FPV drone up to 50 miles (one way then 50 miles back) in the US (in MI in particular). Mine is gas powered and i do fly it like I stole it. Rock solid advice!
Indeed, sound advice! Good Flying!
I just ordered my first drone and very glad I found your informative video! Thank you!
Glad I could help!
I live near a prominent beach pier, and I mostly fly at sunrise, when there are very few people out. The skies are much more pretty in the early morning, too.
Indeed, the best time!
This is among the most helpful, informative, and practical presentations you will find on the topic of drone regulations and flight laws. Well done, Kieth. Thank you!
Wow, thanks! Glad it is useful to you! Good Flying!
Getting my drone in the mail tomorrow, wanted to check up on some rules and regulations before I go out and fly. Appreciate the great knowledge👌
Glad I could help! Good Flying!
I have mavic and inspire . The mavic is harassed by predator birds but not the inspire. Beware eagles rule the sky's.
I have a question, as a new drone pilot I am concerned with what is considered "flying over people"? I know its all subjective, but at 26:17 minutes into your video it appears as though you flew directly over the people on the pier? What are some good, safe, guidelines at to not get into trouble with this?
Thanks for the question! The wide angle camera and some simple re-centering of the shot during editing makes it appear nice and centered for an awesome looking flight path even though that's not actually where it is. Manipulation of footage in post to make things seem like they're not IS the point, to create exciting, cinematic shots! No one wants to see a crooked, off center, boring flight path! The regulation is to not fly directly over people not directly involved with your flight. An easy way to do this is to point the camera straight down and see what is directly below (I use the button on the bottom of the remote often to quickly point down and back up while I make trial runs of my flight). This way it's pretty easy to see what is 'exactly' below as parallax will make it hard to tell if your looking from your ground perspective, rather than the camera itself. Most of the time I also use a visual observer as they call out things that are going on with the aircraft and the area itself (like those freaking seagulls!) when I look down to check telemetry or camera framing and such. Hope this helps. 😎 Good Flying!
Thank you for this great video. I have a drone that I consider very safe to fly. One of the features I like about it is that if you feel that you are in trouble while flying, and if it is safe to do so, you just let go of the controls and the drone will stop dead in its tracks and await your next command. I haven't flown it in a couple of years because of all the anti-drone garbage going on, so much so that the batteries will no longer fit inside the drone because of swelling. In order to start flying again, I would have to invest in a new set of batteries, a remote ID module and wading through a ton of regulations and TRAPS to feel confident out there. The material investment would probably be more than the original cost of my drone. Your video brought me to the conclusion that I would be better off selling my drone and, perhaps, start collecting insects as a new hobby. I feel that I am intelligent enough to handle regulations. It is the TRAPS and harassment by malicious or uninformed individuals and police officers (from experiences) that I am concerned about. Thanks again for helping me make this decision. By the way, the title should have read "How to fly a drone in the 'low-on-the-hog' locations"
Thank you for the kind words! Keep in mind that this is one of the worst areas I've come across which makes it a decent example, but isn't typical for a lot of areas. Perhaps I'm more stubborn than most in wanting to "find a way", but I get it too, the rules are supposed to be for safety, not to diminish the hobby in such a way to eliminate all the fun... 😎
Great video. A run down of the many disparate considerations of legal traps involved with this hobby. You have inspired me to cover all the bases in flying at a local park where this activity grew from being non-existent in 2013 to monthly and even weekly racing in 2016-17 or so to now being deserted in 2020. Did I miss something? Presently I see nobody there. Maybe the laws have changed. Motivation for me to not be ignorant. Best advice take away from this video: Gather all available papers of applicable government, print out hard copies and keep in your flight case for reference. Thanks Keith
You're welcome, glad it is useful for you! Well said, "... motivation not to be ignorant." Words to live by for sure! Good Flying!
Love your comment about not harassing local wildlife: because: some years back I was flying a nano #quadcopter in a park where other RC aircraft flew legally under a local club: when a humming bird came upto my drone. Best guess is they sounded about the same and the little guy just came over to say hello, fair, so I hovered with a slow sink to try and cautiously leave the air. Even in line of sight I'm not exactly shure what happened next as the humming bird started attacking the drone (guessing it didn't say hi back) but next thing we knew there were multiple humming birds attacking as the drone was stalled to prevent injury to the birds. Okay so the drone hit the ground and after a couple of bounces the birds left. Waited several moments to let everyone settle down because humming birds may be small but they outfly everything & have a temper. All packed up & a note on the flight board we went to retrieve & switch off the drone & boy do those little guys move (ohh ouch)!
We investigated what was going on and why we suddenly had a flock of humming birds 🐦 where none had been before. Well apparently the neighborhood association had put up a number of butterfly gardens & feeders around the flight field & the flock had moved into the flight field privacy screening that season.
Never mind the FAA our flight field got grounded by our newest neighbors the humming birds... so who's harassing whom, lol
Just a fun story of what happened before FAA stepped in, even sent them a comment about this incident as birds can be rather territorial during certain seasons.
Thanks for sharing!
I've seen some parks regulations say you can't take off or land in open space. Any idea what that means? Any suggestions on the best way to find places you can take off and land from?
Also, if you're on your own private property can you take off and land from there?
Not sure what the "open space" means in a park, but honestly I'd just ask someone from the local parks department what it means. Walk up with your UAV and have a friendly discussion, don't ask where you can't fly, ask where you can take off from. Remember that only the FAA can regulate airspace so you can check beforehand that but the take off and landing is the key. As far as your own property you're golden, unless you are in controlled airspace (or TFR). Just check Airmap or a sectional chart for your area to know for sure. There are plenty of places to fly legally, just do a bit of research, act responsibly and you'll be fine... Good Flying!
@@AlienDrones thanks so much for the response. Very helpful!
No worries, Good Flying!
Thanks for the “Fly it like you stole it tip” very logical.
Keeps me out of most confrontations for sure...
Local ordinances often criminalize more than what they're allowed to criminalize. Sometimes it's just a bluff, and other times it's because the folks drafting the ordinances don't understand the relevant laws. Unfortunately, cops will usually just rely on the language in those bad ordinances, so law-abiding people are left with the decision about whether it's worth it to risk getting unlawfully cited/arrested. And that risk might also involve having to rely on an appeals court reversing a lower court's bad decision before one actually gets justice.
Indeed...
So wheres some footage from your visit? Love to see the pier. Was all the search worth it?
Awww, you didn't make it to the end? Lol. Yes, absolutely worth it, but not for the initial reasons I intended. Flew around the pier (not over people, though with some creative editing it looks close which WAS the intent 😎 ) and did get some footage though I did have to veer a few times because of the darn seagulls. After all this work, it ended up not being about the footage, exactly, but more about proving it could be done, even in the face of anti-drone activist rule makers. The shots were more confirmation that "I have arrived at my destination", if you know what I mean ... Good Flying!
I DID make it to the end. Saw ur vid of how the land area looked. Just yanking ur chain about no over the water and pier video. After all that I WANTED to see that darn pier! Lol. Great info on research. After all that you NEEDED to fly that mission. :). Thanks for the reply and the info.
Wow! Great video. Very concise. Does it still apply in June 2020? Please update this video or make a new one as things change. I will be subscribing and saving this video for reference, and recommend it to others, so please update as necessary. Thanks.
Thank you for your comments! Indeed, this is still applicable. The only exception I would mention is don't take my research for granted specifically in San Clemente as these things change all the time so do your own due diligence, but the process is solid. There are also states that have a "preemption law" that means the state cannot pass laws for UAVs so make sure you research that as well, it is MUCH easier then. I heard there are 13 states now, but haven't found a concise listing that I can confirm that, so if anyone knows of that, let us know as it would be useful. Good Flying!
is this rules for dji mini 2 as well or not. Please suggest.
Yes, absolutely. All of the rules and regulations still apply to any weight drone. Only thing it changes is the requirement of registration in the US, and that is only under certain conditions. ALL other rules and restrictions apply regardless...
@@AlienDrones after I saw your video , I just return my dji mini 2 . I like to take picture , video but I don't want any problem... safe and happy life
Outstanding Video. Would you advise getting the 107 FAA license if I have no intention of making money from any of my videos?
Thank you for the kind words! Quick clarification is that you don't need to make money for it to be commercial in nature. 99% of flights are commercial for one reason or another according to the FAA and there's a VERY SMALL exception that is a 44809 (recreational), not the other way around that most believe (or want to believe). That being said, _regardless_ of the _legality_ of it, *IMHO*, a 107 is worth it to me. You do learn a lot more (even though you don't use a lot of it daily) and, if you are ever approached, the FAA 107 certificate goes a long way to diffusing situations, and you'll act more professionally knowing you are legit (assuming you are doing everything legit, lol). Of course if you're going to fly once a year for the kids birthday, not take and share any pics/video and you don't care about the history of aviation and the privilege of being a 107 pilot, then by all means there's room for that too. Long and the short, if you have a passion for it, go for it. If it's just an occasional toy that you'll let the kids fly into walls inside the house, then it's probably not for you. Either way, good flying!
Excellent Video! Thank you for the work and research that you put into the making of this video. New to the drone life, I'm flying the MA2. Can you clarify flying over people and crowds? I noticed you flew over a few on the pier. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful! You cannot fly over people unless they are directly involved with your flight. Although it looks like the flight was over people it wasn't, it was a wider angled shot slightly off center that I centered and zoomed in post for effect. Good Flying!
Thank you! This seams like an ignorant question. Can you fly a commercial registered drone as recreational? Or would I need a separate drone for just that.
No worries, thanks for the question! If you have a part 107 registered drone and you are a part 107 (commercial) pilot, you can fly a commercial mission with the drone but can decide to fly for fun and fly recreationally with the same drone, no problem at all! I just did an interview with a very knowledgeable guy about the different benefits of a part 107 certificate th-cam.com/video/Ap96R6uZ_yE/w-d-xo.html and we talked about that a bit too. Pretty interesting stuff. Good Flyying!
Sir, this was a great video! I love it. I am about to become a Mavic owner and I am so pleased to have an idea of how in-depth I need to do my research. Great, great stuff!!
One piece of advice, and I know it's difficult, you just have to tighten up your delivery. It's something, I can't put my finger on. Not terrible, but could be smoother. Still, I love it!!
Is the delivery in the latest video any different? th-cam.com/video/0fsSNHL8Aws/w-d-xo.html . It's been a year since then and that was a fairly early video and I do try to improve every time. Sometimes I succeed in improving and sometimes not... Good Flying!
@@AlienDrones yes, it most certainly is. I am not so savvy has to have looked at the dates! Oops! Sorry. Regardless, it was great and I have subscribed and will watch many more. Thank you!
I've watched a few of your videos on drones, you've convinced me to not spend any more money on drones. Not meant to shoot the messenger, your information is appreciated. My fantasies of camping at my usual isolated part of Lake Powell and getting some great shots of the camp site, no more. Maybe one day a lobby group powerful enough to push back on the government's over reach, but right now, the worry overrides the fun factor. The blanket restrictions without exceptions for the respectful law abiding hobbyist, is wrong. My licensed Mavic Air will be if for me, for now.
Indeed, I get it. I've flown in the National Forests and recreation areas in that area many times, very nice flights, though a bit gusty with the winds. Doing hours of research and investigation does take the fun out of it for sure, and the risk of having Barney Fife walk up and not know what the hell he's talking about, but says it very loud regardless, ruins the day. Someday there may be consistent rules at the federal level and the states won't be able to make crap up, but for now I feel like an outlaw, even though I'm very confident I'm not... Thanks for the thoughts & Good Flying!
Great video. Very educational. As a instrument rated pilot though, I suggest.. Fly it like you're in it.
That's the plan!