Amber Heard Has Destroyed The MeToo Movement
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- Amber Heard has destroyed a multi-year movement by undermining what the movement has now become on the grandest possible stage. When the requirement is to believe all women, regardless of claim, the mainstream household popularity of a trial that undermines this narrative (by showcasing the idea "Falsus in Uno Falsus in Omnibus" ) becomes devastating.
While the original MeToo movement has, and maintains value... the modern interpretation of it has been dealt a fatal blow by public testimony, lies, and manipulations.
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of course it was, because youtube hates the truth and supports domestic abuse so long as its against people they dont like.
TH-cam does not like people talking about anything involving amber
How dare you discuss current events involving people that have made their lives public!
@@Shatteredstarful It's so funny and sad, that this is the reality of things.
Is @Upper Echelon Gamers dutch?
A couple of years ago my wife walked into a doorframe and gave herself a black eye and a mild concussion. I got her in the car and took her straight to the ED to get treated. Once they saw her and me they immediately assumed I was a wife abuser just from the look of her. They wouldn't let me go in with her to triage, kept asking her if she was safe and how many times I hit her. They offered to have the police called and me taken away so she would be safe to tell her story and make a conviction. She kept telling them they were jumping to the wrong conclusions and they finally relented and let her and me into the ward.
Yet throughout her 2 hour stay they had a security guard tail me, constantly asked her if she was safe every time I walked away from the bed and forbid me from being alone in the ward with her. It was one of the most humiliating and insulting things I've ever had happen to me. To this day every single time I take her into the hospital she gets asked if she is ok and If I am abusing her when they think I'm not in earshot. I even have had a nurse I know look at her medical records and it states victim of spouse abuse.
I have never abused my wife, but yet they jumped straight to that conclusion because of movements like this and my name is forever tarnished. I cannot go into a hospital with her without being discriminated against.
Man, that's terrible. Sorry to hear that.
Hahaha, you're totally emasculated and cucked by the system like most men today.
Should have sued them
Shit dude
Wait how many times she walked into this door bruh, sounds like it happens a lot
"You should never try to destroy someone's reputation with a lie when your reputation can be destroyed with the truth."
Gina Carano's words have never been so true and more prophetic then right here, right now.
bingo
Amen to THAT!
This just became my quote of the day.
It's in quotes, where is it from?
Well said
What pissed me off about the “Metoo” movement is not only the stupid slogan, but the fact that the men that came out with SA stories were taken as a joke, or they did not belong in the movement because they were males.
my favorite part what that the hashtag symbol is also called the pound sign
really gives a new meaning to # metoo
As if the person how made metoo weren't a dude
@@saraha.1336 also wasnt the person who came up with it convicted of abusing a young man and paying to cover it up
The movement itself is pushed by feminists. Only racist bigots can think of this stuff . Well they call us that while they marvel themselves in it ..
Can you give an example on this happening? The only instance where I remeber a survivor to be male was in context to the Kevin Spacey and Bryan Singer accusations which both were believed. Spacey and Singer have been excluded from Hollywood since the accusations became public.
A friend of mine fell in the bathroom on water on a tile floor. She dislocated her shoulder and commenced screaming in pain. It was 2am. Her neighbors called the police and reported abuse “in progress”. When the police arrived they treated her husband horribly and I must say, he’s a real sweet guy who wouldn’t hurt anyone so it breaks my heart to know he was assumed to be an abuser.
Gotta love sexism. Pretty great
@@iamacatperson7226 I wish humans were unisex
@@claraclenky9843 Not a bad wish
@@claraclenky9843 With both sets we could design a human that can do the functions for two.
@@1mol831 So... Futas?
“Believe all women” was a stupid mantra to begin with. At least now it’s getting the backlash it deserves.
I hope and pray several other current and foolish “mantras” receive the same backlash.
Reminds me of scarface. "I was always tell the truth, even when I lie!"
What is a woman?
Sadly, some people on twitter are still defending that mantra or trying to spin some imaginative BS narrative that it wasn't. The rhetoric "Believe all women" over men was exactly like that.
I understand the sentiment tbh, if someone comes out to you about their abuse you should treat them with support and good faith but at the same time that does *not* mean whoever they accused should be instantly lampooned. Even if the accuser isn't lying, they could just have misidentified them, that happens sometimes.
I think it's a fundamentally good sentiment corrupted by terrible messaging and bad faith actors like Heard.
I can’t believe the phrase “believe all women” actually gained traction. The concept is ludicrous in itself.
Yeah, specially at least from my experience, women and men lie more or less the same amount. There's often a difference in the way they lie though. Men often lie to make themselves look better to others, while women often lie to make others look bad.
Narcissistic women and their soy allies were the ones pushing this into mainstream acceptance because they kept yelling about it.
I agree! The idea that any group of humans is inherently more truthful based purely on any physical attribute is mind boggling to me.
@@jmack8767 Oh yeah, it is
And a little bit of female toxicity
We don't get to have a social movement to talk about that though
This is all based on Marxist power paradigms
Men are the oppressor, women are the oppressed
Their simple minds extrapolate from there
But but what IS a woman anyway? Come on man! The demons think they are winning, twisting the meaning of words but thank goodness, there are more moral, honest, intelligent, ethical, discerning, truth seeking, researching, people who will not put up with the nonsense anymore.
All court cases should be live so the people can make sure the judges, attorneys and parties all can reveal their truth, lies, fairness or unfairness.
As a survivor of DV, I stand with Johnny. I saw far far too many mannerisms and phrases used by my abuser. She lied. She was not the victim she pretends to be.
The audio of their 'argument' is what settled it for me, the way she spoke reminded me of the way my emotionaly controlling ex would speak. Its amazing how consistant abusers behavours are and yet so many people don't see it when its a woman!
@@Tom88 I agree 100%. I know very well that men are also survivors and it is sad to me that even in 2022 most people in places of authority can not see it. Equality should mean equal. Seeing and understanding male survivors of DV should not be a difficult concept, and more men do need to speak out and feel comfortable doing it. They need to be seen and heard. And who knows, maybe when enough men come out and actually talk about it, we will be able to see similarities in how they react. I also understand that just because a man is abused, does not always mean they are scared. They know they could overpower their batterer but they stay... My belief is because it is because they are in love and feel like they did something wrong. But I don't know.
Sometimes, women abusers often use more dangerous methods. It's when they start using weapons it becomes deadly without them seeing how deadly it really can get. Another reason men NEED to start speaking out about it AND people in places of authority NEED to start actually LISTENING. Not just hearing. Really listen and take it seriously, because it IS serious.
I don't know how ANYONE could believe her. She's a freaking actress, and her acting sucked in court! Whereas Johnny came across as truthful and also very hurt. I didn't need to see much to see the truth in that case. I just hope Johnny will use the opportunity to get some therapy!
Black and white thinkers just stun me sometimes with stupidity, there isn't a villain and a victim in every story, but if one persons bad they automatically flip to thinking the other is the victim. That's how dumb a lot of people are. I see two abusers in this situation. Depp is no better in his behavior toward Heard and everyone in his life, the countless issues people have with him in his career is evidence enough that he ain't fine. Seems like you still have a way to go, clocking mannerisms off your anecdotal experience doesn't mean much.
It’s so sad that the me too movement became an anti-men movement, when its original purpose was so good, to give all SA victims a voice no matter who they are. People like Wininstein totally deserve to get me tooed. Steve at the gym who glanced at you once does not. Radicalizing it to the extreme has watered it down so much that real victims no longer have a voice.
Politics in America are way too radical altogether.
Like the word racist, lost it's meaning, just like any other expletive, they were words used only under specific circumstances not casually like punctuation in a sentence
too bad, so sad. Women lie.
What do you mean original purpose was good? It was a extremist pro woman's rights movement that wanted woman to be "heard" and "taken seriously" more at the cost of a fair trail to begin with. It actively sought to create social media witch hunts before any evidence was laid on the table and pushed for a "woman are always right" narrative even when things were either completely disproven. More often than not damage was already done before it was too late due to people losing jobs and friends/families over ACCUSATIONS backed by nothing only for abusers who lied to walk away without repercussions under the shade of the movement itself.
The fact that some people deserved bad shit happening to them doesn't mean that that bad shit is good for the system its trying to represent. There is no justice in metoo, just evil fought with more evil. It wasn't "radicalized to the extreme", just like third wave feminism it was radical and oppressive from the very start.
If the original metoo movement made victims of false accusations apart of there movement they would probably end up better
Amber: “Tell the judge and jury and see who is gonna believe you”
Johnny: “Hold my mega pint”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
haha
More like hold my suitcase of drugs.
I love weed and lsd. After the trial, he was in the middle of a fcking reptile zoo. Him and his attorney had to get out of there or they would get eaten alive. But the floor was impossible for us to walk in this muck. Be careful. Can they hear me? Did I say that out loud?
I want to start a new hashtag
#YesWeHeardYou
For protecting men from false claims and reports.
Every generation, ideas that we overlook and take for granted have to be dragged out into the light of day and made to stand and deliver. The idea of "innocent until *PROVEN* guilty" just had its day in court, and won. Rumor and gossip *CANNOT* be allowed to stand as the arbiter of guilt in our society.
well said.
In a court of law, evidence beckons it be first, and emotion beckons to be second.
Say it louder for the twitter users in the back
@@gerardotejada2531 "nobody expects the Spanish inquisition" -Monty Python
We don't want this country to end up like 1600s Salem, Massachusetts. (No offense to any Salemites.)
as a man one of my biggest fears is the fact that my entire life can be ruined in a minute
only if you have interactions with women
As a girl hat shouldn't happen even with on eaccusation
As a girl, I agree. The fear of being targeted and sexual harassment is there.
@@wondergirl1586@Badger That always happens to us since were no Depp.
This girl gets caught lying multiple times, reveals shes a slimeball, then decides to associate herself w the metoo movement and take the whole movement down with her. Fucking fabulous.
I dont understand why people think this is the end of mi2. Everyones known the whole time its a scam, why do you expect them to start playing by the rules now?
@@Syncrotron9001 I dont. But what i do know is they're a bunch of cowards, and if public perception changes, they'll back off it and move on to their next dumb ploy.
Just like Covid.
@@Syncrotron9001 Not all bad. It took social momentum to take down an actual monster like Harvey Weinstein. What happened is opportunists decided to use that same social momentum to take down men they were angry at. Chris Hardwick dumped his girlfriend Chloe Dykstra for cheating and married a much prettier woman and had a kid. She was fuming mad. She made a SA accusation out of revenge. She claimed she left him because of abuse. All it took was some screenshotted text messages to blow her story out of the water. He barely survived the scandal and has the permanent stain of being accused now. That wasn't the kind of man most of these broads set out to take down. It got hijacked by crazy spiteful 304s.
This is exactly the same problem that happened back in 2017 I remember it like it was yesterday THE GREAT WAR BETWEEN TWO SUPER POWERS OF THE INTERNET! Cancel Culture Vs Commentary Community! I was apart of the Commentary Community. and The Cancel Culture lost. I won't talk about the Victim, They have been through hell and deserve to be left alone.... but a psycho that caused this doesn't!! Stories (Yes that's her name) wanted to destroy the Life of her own comrade (REDACTED) so she called upon her metaphorical goat and rounded up all the cancellers and started a ban campaign against her Comrade's Entire existence. needless to say She was proven to be manipulative child, And was actively out for her own Thrill ride. how did we find this out, She had Journals. pro tip girls, Keep your Private Journals In a gauranteed Secure Place so no one reads it... what was found... well... let's just say, It would make both and me puke our guts out into a mass revolution.
@@johndoe8442 the good part of metoo died like a week after its creation
Just imagine ifthe trial was behind closed door how media would have showed this.
Im glad it was publicly broadcasted. Despite what she and her lawyers say this is a hugr win for Domestic violence victims.
The good thing about the Us is that the people can have the RIGHT to see their judicial system in action. This is the ONE saving grace of the US at this point and time other than the system of checks and balances. One of the few things the US has that is actually worth something anymore lol.
Correction: This is a huge win for domestic violence victims with loads of money to finance a lengthy legal battle.
This whole debacle is just entertainment and drama for the vast majority of people. It will make exactly zero difference to the average person.
@@doryfishie2 sorry i disagree, This lawsuit showed that there are crazy woman out there that will use those new stereotypes for their own gain. that modern feminist movement trying to establish. It show how damaging it can be to a regular man.
@@HiddenOcelot actually be happy for your judicial system.
In my country murderers get president pardon within few weeks on sentence. Its absolutely disgusting.
@@mehuna66 Agreed; it's good that this has shown the danger of false accusations, and that women can abuse men. I notice the Feminist response is to suggest that the legal process should be bypassed so accusers have less of a burden of proof.
"Believe all women" is the same as "Never believe men"
I think in the beginning, as I understood it, "Believe all Women" meant more or a "Believe them enough to at least investigate the claims rather than ignoring it or sweeping it under the rug". It devolved over time into this "Believe all women regardless of evidence", and it might be for the better that its dead now
It was exactly that in the beginning. And it made me hope so much that things were gonna change for the better - but now we’re right back where we were in believing women who come forward for a new reason
In my opinion, a phrase like that was always going to cause problems, because it depends on context to send the correct message. Without that, misinterpretation is inevitable and people were bound to reject it and, as a result, reject the movement as a whole. The statement, “believe all women” simply doesn’t provide nearly enough information.
Something like, “take all accusations seriously,” I think would have been better.
I think it's interesting to see the cultural evolution in this statement, because before #Metoo, women were more often invalidated and silenced, so the early idea had a legitimate context to break through that but it definitely couldn't sustain that as the context evolved. I think "Believe all victims" was an alternative that also came up and mitigates some of the problems of "believe all women", by opening it up to queer and/or male victims, but it's not without it's problems either, and as our cultural attitudes towards abuse, accountability and justice evolve, that will also take new meaning
Start investigating if someone reports a crime. Should be the procedure, then charge those who have been proven to misuse services.
This reminds me of what the channel "Knowing Better" said about terms like "Feminism" and "Toxic Masculinity". Basicaly he said the left has a huge issue with branding, because a lot of the names for their movements automatically make people defensive.
I know a social worker lady who has been on the job for a long time, and she's worked with a lot of DV victims, both female and male. She is, dare I say, a bit jaded and cynical because she's seen how dark and depraved people can get. One of her favorite sayings is, "Believe all women? Believe all men? Nope! Don't believe people in general. People lie all the time. Believe the EVIDENCE only."
The mantra "believe all women" was a mountain of crap from the very start.
It's not for nothing that witness report are considered the most unreliable proof in an investigation.
Between just how unreliable and fickle memory is and the liars, it amounts basically to nothing.
Is that dr house? female edition?
Exactly. There's a great book " Believe Evidence" by author Megan Fox. Wonderful book to give your family and friends..especially your son's and daughters who are college bound.
Agreed 👍⚖️
I can agree with that
I mean let's be real real, this "woman" stated on the stand... That she was assaulted with a broken wine bottle in her no no bits and needed ZERO medical intervention.
Let that sink in...
And she said this under oath with the entire world watching. OOF! 🤯
I think she told so many lies she got lost in them 😂
Yeah, with all the violence she was supposedly subjected to, not once did she seek medical attention or need surgical correction...and somehow she came out looking like nothing happened to her. Weird...
She took beatings equvilant to a dozen heavyweight rounds from her descriptions 😂
I never once believed that without any kind of medical evidence. If there was, why wasn't it allowed in? Nothing happened to her. NOTHING. But that audio that they played of her cackling like a mad banshee freak chilled me to the bone. She was the abuser, not Amber and unless you watched the trial and heard what I did, you can't convince otherwise. She deserves everything coming to her. I also laughed when Elaine said that she was also a celebrity like Johnny. Really, Elaine? I didn't know who Amber Heard was until this trial. And her movies from what I heard weren't that great. She's a crappy actress. Anyway.....
Yep don't forget the daily beatings with fist full of rings.... I think Amber have Wolverine level healing power.
The Metoo movement lost all credibility because when a "victim" was discovered to be demonstrably lying, instead of apolizing and raising their standards so it doesn't happen again, they doubled down.
As a child the one thing that made me scared the most was "What if one day a woman blamed me for something I didn't do? Would everyone believe her cuz I am a man?" but now I feel a lot different with the justice system around the world slowly realizing being a woman doesn't make you an angel.
We must coddle every little boys irrational and misogynist fears!
@@Dogy0909 Shut up, misandrist. Take your glowering hatred of men elsewhere.
what utter rubbish. i don't believe for one minute that is the one thing that scared you the most as a child. it isn't even something a child would think about.
@@60toodles one of my biggest fears as a kid was false accusation. Worried that people would say I did something I didn’t and then everyone would just believe them. Just bc you never experienced that fear as a kid doesn’t mean you speak for the billions of people who’ve had childhoods
I guess you don't believe everyone after ALL, hah?
When a gaming TH-cam channel gives you a more concise and factual report than any media outlet..
Well done sir.
MSM:Alternative News networks are causing radicalization,
Also MSM:Believe all women-Everything is "Ist" and "Phobic" If you dont your A Ist!.
Media is too busy telling people how society is “misogynistic” because amber lost
Because media wants to gain support from a certain group of a conflict or other thing. We dont care about that, we care about telling our opinion on the matter, explaining what the movement ACTUALLY is about, and how people who missuse it, damage the whole idea behind it.
Because the people who run all these media outlets don't have to worry about all these problems. As long as they're making money, why should they care? They're going to die within 20 years and everything they're putting out there doesn't affect them personally.
eh, more accurately, a channel gives its own skewed take in order to appeal to its own core audience, which like every other audience believes THEY are the true neutral ones and thus messages customized for them are 'concise and factual'.
"the boy who cried wolf" has now met "the woman who cried abuse"
Man that was my first favourite story as a kid
except that, and t0 rephrase the comment above mine,- the boy is ts the wolf as well in this case.
I want to rewrite the story with it being a gjrl instead of a boy and send it to Amber's lawyers. Maybe we should all do that.
#justiceforjohnny
#mentoo
Completely.
I just shared a long reply about this but you pretty much said it way better than I did lol. If I would have read this sooner. But I wanted to add in another recent thing kind of relevant which is mass shootings, people vs police response times.
In the wise words of Kazuma "I yearn for true gender equality. I have no patience for one who talks about female privilege when it suits them, and then complains about someone not being a man when it's convenient."
Then he proceeds to take a bath with the loli he said that phrase to, because said girl lacked a sense of shame and sheer stubborness from both sides, because no one wanted to stay waiting in the corridor "covered with a sticky fluid" as the show likes to call frog's goo.
Female Privilege does exist though
as a women, this video is so refreshing!! I have always hated the "believeallwomen" ignorant ideology and i'm so thankful that more people are finally rejecting it.
As a victim of false accusation, that person is free doing her life. I am dealing with PTSD, ever since.
Instead of "Believe All Women," I'd say "Listen to all accusations of sexual misconduct or abuse. Take them all seriously. Investigate them thoroughly, and with a sense of urgency. Then, seek justice for those who have been victimized."
And remember the accused may be the victim. It's implied, but I suspect we all know it needs to be said.
I fully agree. The only problem is that it doesn't flow all that well, so you'd have a hard time making a catchy phrase from it.
@MonsterGuyX Good idea. Deep truth behind it. Poor phrasing. Not catchy enough to stick.
The problem with so many so-called Progressive ideas is how much they unfairly dismiss one group over another for power. Dismissing men to promote women. Dismissing whites to promote blacks. Dismissing one country to promote another. The fight against slavery, civil rights, suffrage, all came from the root of making sure people were not unfairly dismissed. If we're to be equal, it doesn't mean we have to punish some, or hold others untouchable. We should all be judged, and we should all be helped. And none of us should be dismissed. So to that end, the phrase I heard, and was rather fond of, was: Dismiss None.
Just say “Innocent until proven Guilty”. Short and true.
Problem is, the more police seriously investigates, the more women say they feel "violated" by the investigations. You cannot take her accusations seriously or she cries foul.
I'm a survivor of domestic abuse and I recognize my feelings and experiences in JD:s statements. MeToo was about speaking up about abuse more than anything else WHEN IT HAPPENS! No more silence to protect the abuser, speaking up, loud and clear! And that's what Johnny did. His victory was a victory for us all. Gender has nothing to do with it. If we frame all victims as females we also normalize that being a victim when you're female is just normal. It's not.
I totally agree with what you are saying
You are so right. Listening to Amber on some of the recordings was like listening to my ex. Also, the suggestion that Johnny Depp - an actor with serious drink and drug problems, who has been blackballed for the past six years - is more powerful than the likes of Harvey Weinstein, and could influence a court and jury in the US is ridiculous.
The problem is that MeeToo is not just speaking up, but lynching without strong evidence. This is unfortunate, but if just speaking up is enough to punish the guilty, many will take advantage and falsely accuse. Sooner or later, someone may falsely accuse you too...
Look at who and what started the METOO movement. It was never about what you think. The women that started it were all found to falsely accuse guys. They routinely made any guy that tried to use the METOO movement to speak up himself feel like crap.
Every time I seen one of those pages all I saw were people jumping all over any guy trying to speak up about a woman abusing him.
False. MeToo rapidly lost its goal to call out abuse when it happened. MeToo was hijacked by identity activists who bent the meaning of "abuse." MeToo is just one layer of the man-bashing and victimhood narrative. Sex and gender didn't have a role. Sexism against men had everything to do with it. Now, let's also roll back sexist paternity, divorce, property, and public benefits narratives.
When Terry Cruz was ignored and demonized for saying he had been assaulted I knew me too was in trouble.
I am a woman. And it honestly haunts me that I can lie about any man I don't like and absolutely ruin his life on a whim.
Honestly, that amaze me how many divorces there in the US annually and how few spouses go missing.
If that is not an evidence that men are mostly good, I don't know what is.
@@adrianalexandrov7730Good or scared to act?
@@jamesalexander6417 well, I've heard from feminists that men are violent, abusive creatures.
Plus, why would they be scared? They got that male privilege and any male cop would cover for another man, right? )))
“People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true.”-Terry Goodkind
@@jamesalexander6417good not scared to act men aren’t some ticks waiting for there next victim
Here's the thing. Anyone who has genuinely experienced assault and harassment knew that the Me Too movement died a long long time ago. What true survivors want is justice and equality. Depp was lied about, abused and degraded. He lost out on a lot of things in his life and he deserves to have justice served. Heard did this to herself by publicly attacking her victim and soaking in the attention it gave her.
The most tragic thing about this case and the movement is that millions of people go through what Depp went through every single day but they cannot afford to speak up or fight back. And anyone who gate kept Me Too as women only are complete idiots. Abuse can happen to everyone and just taking the woman's side for everything will lead us down a deep dark hole.
The truth that many don't seems to notice is that those movements, no matter how they start, have a pretty good chance of turning into cults. It's not only about MeToo, feminism or incels, is basically any group that starts out trying to spread a message. Once enough power is gathered, no matter what the initial purpose was it start having all the characteristics of a cult, about defending personal beliefs and people in power, not about facts and truth.
Anyone who klses a finger and doesn't kill the perpetrator, isn't an abuser.
It's not about gatekeeping metoo, it's that the movement on paper is already asinine to begin with. Anyone with a single brain cell could see that from the start. The idea that the uninformed masses could tear down a person based purely on word of mouth is completely dumb. What the Depp case showed is that MeToo is (obviously) extremely easy to misuse. It's not that MeToo should also be applied to men, the correct takeaway is that MeToo should be ditched altogether. If you extend "believe all women" to "believe all men" too, then do you just believe everyone then? No, you should only believe evidence. MeToo disregards due process, it legitimizes the brainless pitchfork-wielding mob. It's a crutch for angry stupid people and brainless activist types. And the brainless celebrity types help legitimize the movement.
which is why Depp winning is such a great news, it brought attention to the truth and shows the world that truth matters. I hope we have more of this so that we can bring back faith in our system.
"And anyone who gate kept Me Too as women only are complete idiots."
At the beginning of this Me Too movement, my male friend shared this tag and revealed that he was sexually abused by his stepfather as a kid. Someone told him "That's very sad, but please don't use this hashtag, it's for women to fight against oppression and you're not a woman." This person was told to get the f**k out by pretty much everyone on the discussion, but it's still mind boggling that someone even said that.
Honestly…. If she hadn’t tried so hard to demonize him the jury might have believed her in part. She overshot her credibility by light years.
Agreed. She didnt just say he hit her, she was trying to make him out to be Ted Bundy levels of evil, and she didnt have evidence for even one slap.
If she had been smarter Johnny might have been screwed.
Shes a fucking vile woman.
The Turd is an apt name for her, in fact shes done the impossible, shes made the word "Turd" mean something even worse.
And ironically, Elaine is making the circuit now saying Amber was demonized. After she has spent all these years demonizing him with utter lies.
They did give her compensation for one of her points. Proves they actually gave thought to what she said and thats a good thing. The jury didnt give a blind verdict.
@@eliasnilsson6604 Exactly. That only proves that the verdict is unbiased.
she could just take in for diveorce and let it be. she would still grab the half of JDs shit and be happy.
Big props to that attorney for calling her out on her word play BS trying to misrepresent the truth.
Big props to you for breaking this down and providing a non-biased breakdown.
The sad thing is that the movement (before that hashtag) was a great idea in theory. There are still many predators in Hollywood that haven't been put to justice.
Court: "Pay johnny 8 million"
Amber: "Sorry I snorted all my income."
well, she can pay him whatever she makes from here on out until she pays him a total of $8mil. Women make men pay alimony for life (slavery), so fair is fair.
She can just pledge the money and all will be good.
well outside of the times when she took drugs, she never took drugs.
Her friends too, never took nor drank outside of times where they did.
Pure angels
She'll probably say that she's "Pledged" all the monies to DJ, plus I also left a tip on his bed for him!!
She can't pay that money, she pledged it to charity.
As a female in her mid 30s, I'm appalled by the "damsel in distress" syndrome. Irrefutable proof is the bottom line no matter the gender, but when a woman is manipulating the story just because she's a woman and nothing else, it makes me scream. My current husband has been abused by his former wife and has had no support from the community. She's banned him from seeing his child despite court order. Multiple lives scarred because she's a woman and nobody believed him. Makes my stomach churn.
Same with my step-dad. Lived with him a decade and his conduct was SO opposite to what she alleged.
To add further proof that women have more privileges than men these days. Sadly.
Don't divorce :P. Women are going to have a hard time finding real men to marry if this "women can do no wrong" gaslighting from women keeps up. They'll always have simps, though.
It sounds like he found someone that truly does care. He's a lucky guy in that regard, as for the ex she will get her's in the end. I just pray for the his and the kid's sake its sooner so they dont have to grow up under that kind of garbage
your a solid lady. keep backing up your man you being there is as much support as anyone can ask for!
I’m a rare survivor and I feel this was a major win for victims and survivors. Depp was the abuse victim and the world recognized it. I’m disgusted by Heard and I would openly call myself a feminist. As this video said, Amber Heard caused all this damage, she is the one to blame.
I was in an Xbox party w 8 ppl when Johnny won the case. We were all playing and he read the news to us, and everybody just started yelling for 5 minutes. We were so happy. Amber got what she deserved, and Johnny was redeemed
Holy shit this is the best comment I have ever seen on youtube! Its like the xbox live situation but the opposite way around
It makes me angry how "Journalists" constantly try to shape opinions. Thats not their Job. People that are given raw facts are capable of drawing their own conclusions. I don't need somebody else to think for me.
yeah, idiot wokies really believe they are the only enlightened people and we all shall bow down to them and let them think for us (because they are so "enlightened" or, "woke", that is).
objetivity should be a requirement for any journalist. They shouldn't be able to write more about their opinions than facts.
I once in 2020 in the US elections I saw from a news channel that they were criticising trump for the disturbs and just splitting out their opinion, since then I didn't even saw that channel anymore. Heck I don't even watched news anymore.
@@user-zl1vf4me1p oh you sweet summer child. kiss goodbye to those ideals.
journos are educated in universities, universities which have become cesspits of woke ideologies. Their education was just woke indoctrination, with very little actual professional training involved.
Given their "education", sorry, woke indoctrination, its no surprise that they are just uncritical, manipulative, lying "activists" rather than anything else. its basically the thing universities are designed to churn out these days.
Btw, objective reporting is one of the things these people are basically brainwashed to despise, in their "education".
The thing about objectivity is: it's really hard to achieve. Take it from someone in the academic field of history, who constantly has to check his sources and even my own conclusions for bias: It's really REALLY hard to be 100% objective and unbiased, even when you're only presenting facts.
BUT what journalism seems to have lost is that drive to be as objective and factual as possible. And that's the real problem here.
I think that subjectivity isn't inherently bad, the problem is that many newspapers try to pass off their biased opinions as neutral
And now AH's attorney, Elaine is maintaining Amber's lies through MSM interviews saying that the everyone's lying except Amber. It just won't stop. :(
That's her job, so long as she's being paid she'll say whatever she must.
Her lawyer is the definition of a salt mine
@@vocalcalibration8033 But she alleged on national tv that the jury lied/was wrong in their verdict. That is a serious thing for a lawyer to accuse a jury of. It's so messed up. I watched the whole trial, I got pissed off at how much MSM got wrong regarding what went on in the courtroom. It doesn't help at a reporter for CourtTV only stayed for 30mins of the testimony, so only got part of it.
Yes. they can't just accept that AH is not a good person. It's as simple as that. put her aside and move on
Elaine is continuing on the defamation of Mr. Depp like nothing transpired in court.
"the original idea of MeToo, which deals more with support than retribution, and awareness as opposed to animosity" damn that hit the nail on the head.
Kinda feel like whenever Heard blames the justice system for her loss, she really means that she blames the MeToo movement for not being exploitable anymore, smh.
Me too turned “innocent until proven guilty” into “guilty cuz I said so on Twitter”…
If you are a real victim going to social media with embellished stories is the worst thing you can do for any criminal or civil legal actions in the future… you’ll ruin your case and leave yourself open for slander and defamation counter claims…
Twitter is not the cops. They're bots. Unfortunately, some selfish people still didn't get that into their skulls.
Half of Twitter deserves to be put on death row, that would damn sure solve a lot of fucking problems with our society, shitty human beings being disposed of like trash.
What's funny is that only 23% of the American population uses Twitter compared to the 81% that use TH-cam. But somehow Twitter keeps being used as a representative of the opinions of the population.
@@hope-cat4894 twitter is used by leftists, youtube is used by everyone. And here we are, seeing stupid political videos getting a massive amount of dislikes.
I showed my parents the gillette ad and they were like "that's a pretty good ad, what's your issue with it?". My parents are right leaning, so that made me just shocked, SHOCKED. Well, not that shocked. Since my stepdad simps for my mother's opinion on rape and stuff. I know that he isn't genuine, he started his own company three years ago and now has a turnover of $200,000+ this year alone. I won't believe that he actually believes what my mom does.
@@Jaded_Jester The weirdest thing I keep hearing from these stories is that it never involved any officials or law enforcers. No common sense whatsoever. Lol
Omg yes this is exactly what I’ve been saying! “Believe all women” has always been problematic. I’ve personally known several woman who have lied about these type of things. It cannot go unchecked
I've always been in awe of the audacity of these women, but then I remember lying about being touched isn't new. It's gotten whole towns set ablaze.
@@Calipsofire this channel is filled with Misogynists
Ask any woman if they think all women should be believed, if the answer is yes , so what if they are lying
@@penman1289 Too true. Only an idiot or a liar would believe someone based on their identity. My own mother taught me not to be too trusting of anyone as most people are greedy and will take advantage of you. She stressed anyone which included other women.
Guilty until proven innocent is the way. So many men are bullies and will tell women that if they speak up they will kill their children.
This trial finally opened my eyes to the *extreme* biases of many, many once reputable media sources. We were able to watch this trial live yet many media organizations still tried to blatantly twist what happened daily to fit their narrative or political agenda. One, how stupid they must think the public. Two, shame on those organizations and authors who made even more biased and some straight false reports. It was truly sickening. It’s like they were all hoping no one was actually watching. I thought Rolling Stone learned their lesson after printing that false victim on campus story that was verifiably false several years ago? I mean wow. They should shut their doors.
You can't destroy something that was destroyed from the start
for every one woman ive seen come out and talk about how the trail damaged women ive seen a dozen men come out and say I was in Depps position and nobody believed me
For every one woman I've seen come out and talk about how the trial damaged women, I've seen dozens of other women come out and say the opposite lol
D egenerate
ding ding ding ding we have a winner!
I can’t even find one woman who thinks the trial damaged women, in real life anyway. Plenty who have husbands, fathers and/or sons who they feel were finally spoken for though.
"trail"
It doesn't need to die with Amber, but it will die due to people that insist she's innocent amd railroaded by the system. People that think that are more dangerous.
Amber totally got railroaded. Johnny is beloved by the public; of course noone would believe him capable of such horrible acts. This was a complete trial by media.
They're sure far more damaging than any of Bill Murray's jokes.
It's nothing but first world pampered egos, refusing to take Ls because Laissez-faire parenting and participation trophies. They're really only making themselves more miserable by expecting only good feelings out of life.
@@1handedtyper someone didn't watch the trail other than what the MSM showed.
@@1handedtyper riiiight. And she can’t promise she won’t get physical with him (And just hit him of course, not “punch”, he’s such a baby!) because you know, she just loses it sometimes. And was… railroaded. Yeah. You must smoke the same stuff she does.
Believe all women: No
Take all accusations of sexual assault seriously: Yes
It took a woman to start the Me Too movement and it was a woman who destroyed it how poetic
The term "believe all women" invalidates two things :
It renders the term "innocent till proven guilty" obsolete as if you believe all women they are as innocent. It also opens a gateway for scrutiny and deconstruction by asking the question "If we are to believe all women, does that mean to never believe any man?" and that obviously leads to asking the question, what about the men who tell the truth and do (or at least try to do) the right thing.
What about when 2 women argue?
@@johncrow5552 great addition, i guess we just believe both of them as every argument (this is not me saying this just using the logic of "believe all women") is based on some measure of truth i.e with amber, she blew her accounts of what happen way out of proportion but there was still evidence that the rs was mutually abusive and with depp he obviously provided more of the truth wherein it was amber who was more physically abusive
@@gardenofwords914 If the Amber team had proven Johnny was EVER abusive and committed DV, she would have won. Because of that, I was surprised he won as I was sure her team could have proven that at least on one occasion he was abusive. I guess they couldn't and so Johnny was cleared of DV.
@@johncrow5552 But they didn't, and JD's defense team managed to counter Amber with more evidence supporting that Amber did far worse than Johnny did anyway
@@leonmystique9372 You contradict yourself. You say her team could not prove he committed DV then say "Amber did far worse than Johnny did anyway" which implies he did commit SOME DV. Don't get me wrong. I am very happy JD won as finally some peeps realize men can be victims of DV. It has also opened some peeps eyes as to how the MSM narrative is biased against men.
"I pledged the money"
"Why haven't you donated it yet then?"
"pledging is the same as donating"
She doesn't seem to have a single shred of decency, does she?
And yet I find myself strangely drawn to her...
The juror who has already spoken out said that was one of the biggest red flags that proved how detached from the truth she was.
@@johnsarthole Get help.
@@johnsarthole yeah, makes me wanna perform brain surgery and see what makes her tick.
All in the name of science, of course.
@@k.stacey7389 or a lier she is
this is the best, most comprehensive, video on the topic. great work.
As a woman who watched the entire trial, I’ve💯agree with you. Hopefully this trial will erase the stigma of male victims of DV/Fasley accused. #MenToo
If the "survivors" who are upset over this case thought rationally, they would realize this is a huge victory for them (if they are honest people, that is). Johnny Depp, despite seemingly having the entire world against him and the true story of what happened to him enshrouded in layers of lies and manipulation, managed to get justice because the evidence and the TRUTH were on his side. If they had that too, then this case should be an inspiration for them and not the opposite. No wonder why countless honest survivors are celebrating this verdict.
Johnny never had the whole world against him. Stop re-writing history.
@@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend Of course he didn't, I was just saying that despite all of the negative publicity he received, he still managed to get justice (and yes my expression was exaggerated).
@@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend It's a phrase, not something literal. The point is that society viewed anyone from the #metoo movement as guilty until proven innocent. Johnny was no exception, which caused him to lose work opportunities for nearly 5 years.
Metoo has always been about harming men, and not helping female victims.
@@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend Imagine intentionally trying to misunderstand what he was saying, when literally everyone else understand what he meant. Pathetic attempt at gaslighting.
She's renamed it from MeToo to MePoo.
What a shit show
"Your Honor, is shitting the bed a crime?"
lol
ReeeePoo
@@Sarah.J.Jacobson "The degree of it depends on the circumstance or, most importantly, the smell of the shit. In a regular day, it's absolutely disgusting in every way, and whoever decided to do such a revolting offense should be ashamed of themselves, but it is left ambiguous whether it is a punishable offense. After eating at Taco Bell though, IT IS PUNISHABLE BY LIFE IMPRISONMENT OR *EXECUTION.* Thank you for your question"
This is what happens when the minority of women lie about being abused. It undermines and puts at risk those women who are genuinely abused (much more common tragically).
" (much more common tragically)."
Men are victims of violent crime more than women and women are victims of sexual crimes more than men , keep that in mind.
@@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892 aren't men also the common suspects who causes those violent crimes to both men and women?
majority are liars
@@NathanXYX. I’m not sure such misogyny is warranted or supported by evidence.
@@andyharris3084 74% of rape cases and 95% of dv cases in my country have been proven false. Pretty sure your misandry was also not supported with any evidence. The lack of accountability in you women is disgusting
I don't remember when I subscribed to this channel and why I did. But I'm glad I did. Great coverage btw
I agree that Amber has done damage but I also believe that she has shed a spotlight on the current "cancel culture" which skirts around our constitutional right to be innocent until proven guilt. "Cancelling" is the same as condemning someone as guilty without them being able to defend themselves. That is not what our country was built upon. As a DV/SA survivor, to have her claim to be a victim turns my stomach inside out. It's because of women like her, that true survivors have to go through more pain just to prove they are telling the truth. She does NOT represent the thousands of DV/SA survivors.
AMEN!!!!!
Which is what is fueling a lot of the backlash against Heard. Most people believed her when she said she was a victim of DV/SA at first. And felt their good will was taken advantage of by her lying about it. Then turn around and find out at the very least she was the primary abuser. And the article was another way for her to hurt him one last time while making everyone that believed her complicit in the abuse of Depp. And no one likes their good will taken advantage of and it makes it just that much harder for real abuse victims since everyone is going to be a little less trusting of a person coming forward.
💥💥 Amber made her bed so she will lay in it 💥💥 YOU FAKED EVIDENCE. 💥💥 DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD SHE SAYS. 💥💥 As a SURVIVOR she turns my stomach... I personally think it's criminal what she's done. SHE'S A FRAUD. 💥💥
Exactly. A few of my family members were se×uaIIy assaulted and I saw how much pain it caused them. It took a lot of courage for my kid sister to decide to go to the police and build a case against her female boss that molested her. It makes it even harder for people to believe real victims when others lie about being abused. I think people who make false r*pe or abuse accusations are disgusting because they don't just ruin the reputation of the person they acused but they also reinforce the idea that se×uaI assult and abuse shouldn't be taken seriously. I'm really sorry about what you had to experience and I hope you are doing much better now.
Idk if that's what they mean by "canceling"
I'll never understand how believeallwomen became a thing. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, has the ability to lie. From parents telling little white lies to their children, to well, a particular someone having donated 7 million to charity.
I recall when as a kid I lied that I didn't eat some halloween candy to my parents. They were asking me and my siblings who ate some. I lied right to them.
But the believeallwomen logic means they have to believe me, no matter what.
its called religion.. thats where most of our issue in society came from.. ironcially its been created by MEN not women.. 😂
first understand all the groups that fking had to fight for their rights to begin with.. THEN LOOK AT WHO THEY FOUGHT AGAISNT .. they all had the SAME FKING ENEMNY.. its called CHRISTANTIY.. xD
the two groups that STARTED the snowball effect hta lead to right s of every other group over time.. was BOTH ATHIESTS AND FEMINIST.. they use to be TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN..
division happened casue most feminist where christian believes while athiests thanks to anti thiests .. things got sour.. so they kind became two seperat coins..
butt it was feminist taht where the FIRST group to help gays.. it was also BLACK FEMINIST THAT PLAYED A MASSIVE ROLE IN BLACK RIGHTS...
and athiests wehre there all the way too.. just IGNORED cause they are indeed still the most hated group in america and on earth.. they are completely removed from most conversation in terms of who helped who during rights movements..
majority of history men simply DID NOT TAKE WOMEN SERIOUS... so u had MOST MEN.. sorry butt thats just true. if it wasnt then women wouldnt have had to fight tooth and nail to gain rights in the first place.. butt i digress.. this MALE system didnt take women serious.. so as u'd expect once women gained rights.. as with all groups there are people with in it that simple try to reverse and pay back in kinds.. so first it was "women cant be taken serious" FOR ALL OF WRITTEN HISTORY.. 1000's of years bro.. then rights came in the last 60ish average years now u got the REVERSE.. "believe all women" which majority of feminists and metoo dont actually say or believe.. its a small very vocal minority
its no different then BLM .. only a FEW BLACKS say "blacks cant be racist"
the result is YOU THE PUBLIC belive in horse shit.. ya'll think teh minority just cause its makes up ALL THE NEWS/HEADLINES is representive of the whole groups..
im an athiest and i fking think religious is TRASH.. butt i do not for a second believe being a christian makes u stupid and dangerous just cause a FEW extremist relitards exist and peddled horseshit harmful stuff..
men came up with "benevolent sexism" actually fking look that up..
some women simple know how to game that and take advantage of it.. which is just reversing the sexims.. which you the public eat up as if its the whole group.. xD
the "believe all women" logic isnt logic and its stupid.. its just as stupid and public opinion from too many men saying women cant be trusted again that also another REVERSE sexist narrative..
HUMANS ARE RELITARDS.. most of em.. fking dumb ass monkey in shoes... fking apes... believe what they want cause they want to believe..
vast majority of people dont even actually check and read any actual science studies nor univeristy studies.. the best they do is look at numbers and be like "see this is proof" yet had they actually read they would have been disprove by the very same study they ignore to actually read..
this applies to nearly everything...
preconcieve bais and anecdotal evidence is humanties favor train of thought. xD
its obvious how it became a thing.. and once again.. u have to include RELIGION into it.. thats the cause of most bs..
sexist ass men = sexist ass women AND sexist ass women = sexist ass men
butt anyone who's familiar with reality knows MEN not women created nearly all the systems... as women had NO RIGHTS in aLL OF HUMAN WRITTEN HISTORY TILL mid/late modern times and some of those women with rights as expected would be sexist.. which then itself creates sexist men or gives already sexist men justification of why women are "bad" as whole WHICH ITSELF AGAIN justififies those sexist as women .. repeat. xD
humans am i right...we're fking DUMB.. only dumb animal ever to exist cause we have the BRAIN TO KNOW BETTER.. and what do we do... we create "religion" and reliiious like ideologies.. aka BULLSHIT.. and we LOVE TO BELIEVE BULLSHIT cause we think we're too smart to believe in bullshit.. xD
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SO .. did i answer u question?
cause i dont think anyone else really actually give an answer let alone consider just how deep things might go to find out WHY things are like they are now..
There are a small handful of people, both men and women, that I have met or someone close to me has met, who literally cannot lie. These few people cannot understand the concept of a lie. They cannot lie, nor can they ever detect a lie. You could tell them the sky was falling and they would believe you unconditionally. It is quite odd.
no. pledged, son.
@@klaufir xDDDDD
I still don't get how she isn't being investigated for domestic abuse!
Mob Justice is sick..
Evidence is what determines a trial, not your personal feelings. Some people have this twisted idea that all women are saints and incapable of committing crimes when history has clearly shown the opposite.
You're right, it's called the "Women are wonderful effect" search this up on TH-cam, very interesting.
I can’t believe mainstream media is still on her side.
Yep, why people stop watching them ...
mainstream media is on the payroll, whats not to believe? they get paid to push agendas. Simple as that.
just like they are on the side of Michael Jackson’s lying accusers
We live in a gynocentric society.
Really? I can.
The ironic part is that if the woke-bloid publications hadn't been so die-hard pro-Amber and #believeallwomen until the end this trial wouldn't have affected the movement at all.
Exactly! Mass media took a bet and lost - now they practice mental gymnastics to somehow paint the picture that they were right nonetheless. From what I read, AH had a bunch of public appearances and interviews lined up, that are now all canceled - my guess is that they were a victory dance pieces.
They went die-hard because Johnny losing would be the ultimate solidification of their power and foothold on society. Except they vastly overestimated Amber's ability to not be a complete idiot and this backfired on the wonderfully, destroying their stranglehold rather than cementing it.
[They] eat their own. Everything backfires on [them]. Unsustainable ideology.
It's kinda like a gamble. They put all their money on Amber winning because OBVIOUSLY she's gonna win right? That's what they campaigned so hard for! Women are always right, and everyone thinks so after their efforts to drive it home... oh woops, seems like they didn't quite have the impact they thought they did 🤣🤣
And then - what is a woman?
I served in the U.S. Military for many years. During that time, I was involved (as a witness) in a few allegations of misconduct of a sexual nature. These are taken VERY seriously, and proceedings were begun into Court Martials based on these claims. In EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM the Woman who made the claim of harassment or misconduct LIED.
EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
Snapper314-Can I ask if they faced disciplinary action?
@@davidearea242 no, most case no
Innocent, until proven guilty! Men and Women can be Victimized, or the Abusers. Truth Matters !
She straight up was up there on the stand spitting lies after lies. It just killed the case for her. She had no evidence. Whether Johnny hit her or not, she was not a survivor of abuse. She, in fact, was the abuser. You can't call yourself a survivor if you are the one committing the abuse.
Yeah, just look what happened to Brendan Frasier... gawd that was just depressing.
@@battlion507 Fraser*
I think they were both abusive, but only 1 on them lied about it to try and make themself appear like the victim. Abusers do this all the time, including the woman who abused me.
If she had written the article saying she was part of an abusive relationship this never would have happened.
@@andishawjfac I've never heard any proven evidence that Johnny was abusive even in the slightest, but your completely right on every other account
@@ZomboidMania But Amber hurt her hand when she was beating on JD.... he clearly caused the injury. LOL
Good!
Too many people have had their careers tarnished by false allegations with no way to fight back. Johnny Depp was one of the few able to take his accuser to court and succeed. I hope this deals the final blow to the MeToo Witch hunt.
Yeah, do these people think that if Amber had pictures of doctor verified injuries and proof that it was Johnny that we would still side with Johnny? Fucking retards.
People have always had the ability to fight back, the right to sue for liberal/defamation isn't a new law.
The problem is people don't take it on because they don't have the evidence. Johnny did thank fuck.
This whole culture of having the receipts for this shit is what we should focus on, not some men vs women BS.
@@andishawjfac i think op was talking more to the fact that Johnny actually had the financial means to take her to court. So many who this sort of thing happens to have the evidence/witnesses but lack the money to do anything with it. When it can cost someone millions to fight a defamation suit those w/o financial backing are told by lawyers to not even bother trying.
@@Spartanbot1001 also it’s very hard to win. Imagine if amber was able to convincingly cry and if she hadn’t made up to totally insane stories but more believable ones...
@@andishawjfac Libel and Defamation laws exist but they're some of the hardest to actually prove. This isn't the first Defamation suit Johnny brought forward. He lost the one in the UK because the courts sided with Amber and refused to look at any evidence.
As a victim of domestic violence, I am confused and disgusted at the fact that Amber still pretends to be one of us, but am delighted to see how the trial played out.
I never got my justice so I'm happy to see Johnny get his.
The publication of this trial has done more for equality than me too ever did to be honest, real equality is holding everyone to the same standards with absolutely no exceptions, an abuser is an abuser and a victim is a victim regardless of their gender.
It's just a shame it was a defamation suit and not an abuse accusation on depps part, then she'd get the jail time all abusers, male, female, whatever, deserve
Anyone that ACTUALLY watched the trial can plainly see that SHE was the abuser and SHE lied about everything. The media's twist on this is disgusting to me and only further pushes me away from mainstream.
Same happened to my husband a few years back, in an ER in RI. They separated us insisting I was abused and kept asking me leading questions over and over about my injury. If I was a sick narcissistic with devious intentions like AH what an opportunity to destroy a good man. By the way, my husband has been an amazing husband and father never raising a hand or even his voice to any of us. He’s a gentleman to his core. Think the (Me To Movement, the ACLU, etc. etc. has over stepped it’s original intent and women like Amber Heard, along with Media sensationalism for ratings and profit use these platforms to help women, men, and children who are in-fact facing DV and other issues of abuse and are victimized again in our society by something started with good intentions, and become horribly corrupted and go horribly wrong. How sad for humanity. Amber Heard a World Wide disgrace and should be made an example of by further prosecuting her and her drug induced co-conspirators.
Me too! I tripped over a portable fan & smacked my forehead resulting in two black eyes. My husband was in a wheelchair but they separated us at the hospital. My poor husband couldn't even stand. We did understand that if I had been attacked this would have been a good thing.
I think your husband is one of the top comments here, very honorable man
Oof so you cheat on him then lol you described him as a good man 🤣
@@offlineraided She didn't say she cheated on him though? I don't know where you read that so it seems like you just want to make her look bad idk
@@suepedie1 okay that first bit is a huge ouchie
I sincerely hope this trial will open people’s eyes to all the manipulation and injustice that has been going on for the past few decades.
Great commentary and spot on. As an Australian, I must say how impressed I am at how fast you can talk! We're a bit more laid back here. 😉🙂
Psychologically, we want our reality to be predictable and understandable. When we perceive inconsistencies, irregularities (and outright lies), we find this uncomfortable and seek to identify and source to keep ourselves (and our perception of reality) sane.
The fact that Amber lied, repeatedly and bold-faced (at turns hilarious at others insulting) to a room full of people is a reminder of our collective capacity for deception and selfishness.
I hope this trial encourages more people to critically analyze and question other areas where questionable narratives are being pushed onto us. There will be ample opportunities coming soon.
So perfectly said : )
True
especially on what is a woman and the high court judges unable to answer. aswell as trans issues were babies should not be identified at birth and feelings before biological facts are made more important its crazy and I feel morally unjust to speak false truths around basic common sense. without the fear of being cancelled..I hope its a start to real talks 👄
The #MeToo movement was dead to me when a High up spokeswomen said this "Some innocent men will be prosecuted for the good of the movement.." That is why they are mad over this trail, they want the innocent to suffer so more women will come forward and it doesn't matter that a higher percentage will be false claims!
@ali akbar I actually agree with what you said! That alimony abuse is leading to less marriages and kids, men are protesting with their commitment. When it reaches a certain level it will be changed.
The real funny thing is that, at least in my Gen X generation, men were incentivized to work hard to impress a women to get married! College, Job, marriage, then Family. Looking at Gen Z, marriage then college then job seem to losing priority. Men are finding out that the min effort still is livable, lying flat can be fun and challenging. Now women are noticing that they have to marry even or down to tie the knot. Men are not in a position of power as much anymore which is better for women....Maybe???
@@decimgames2163 Time changes the "game" naturally, I don't mean that in a "men are going to get all the power" way, in fact I can't predict any guaranteed outcome, I mean that younger people who learn what is set out against them in what specific ways and to what severity, will naturally go "nope" and stick the middle finger up to "adults" regardless of the protest, which adults who put their political leanings, beliefs etc ahead of the concept of morality towards all are blind to.
I'm hoping the members of "Me too" who've skewed the balance of justice won't be considered representatives of most female survivors. That a male victim has been heard in Virginia & gotten justice, should be publicly heralded as validation that their "fair treatment of female victims" movement is a pro -justice- for-all stance.
"Me too" proper hasn't advocated for believing ALL allegations made by women, and, as a survivor myself, Amber does NOT represent me! Many men have rightfully feared that advocating for female survivors of abuse could be dangerously biased against men, si I'm hoping the Virginia verdict is instrumental in restoring balance and thus unify genders in favor of fair justice for ALL victims of DA, DV, SA, & SV. 🤞⚖️
I'm not part of "they", and I'm a female survivor of IPV. If we learn anything from this trial it should be that neither all men aren't perpetrators, nor all women victims without sacrificing that sometimes the reverse is true. "Me too" started with "Justice for all" & anyone who's strayed from that is misrepresenting countless abuse survivors of all genders! Please aim for being the better human by resisting stereotyping & gender-blaming(?). Ty
@@rosemariebredahl9519 To many people have that mentality that genders are plus minus equal sum gain, one gender can only increase at the other expense. That is where that let innocent suffer to further the cause comes from. It isn't like that and that attitude brings down all. I respect what you wrote and what I said actually aligns with what you said. The stereotype of #metoo is dead to me, no more stereotyping and every case is individual and unique..just like people!
I clicked the video thinking: "I disagree with that, the movement it´s not over at all", but after seeing the video in its entirety, i not only agree with the title, but also i´m glad it´s been destroyed. May this serve as a new beginning for other movements to come forward and aid the real victims, without the "Belive all claims" bullshit.
I went into this hoping it wouldn't be totally offensive and I'm a little surprised at how much I agreed with everything you said. You did a really good job.
Amber Heard might be the greatest ally the Men's Rights Movement has ever had😄
Not true. Just by stating that you show that you've got no damn idea that men's right movement even is. It is *NOT* for opposing women, women's right, feminism or any other similar things. It is for men's right in situations that are typically skewed against them such as fights about parental rights.
@@anteshell yes, exactly, "men's right movement" is about men's rights in situations that's usually skewed against them, including being biased against, such as domestic violence, because most people wouldn't believe that a man would be the victim in such a situation.
OP didn't say anything about opposing women's rights or feminism, supporting one thing doesn't automatically means against another.
GUYS WHY ARE WE FIGHTING
@@chickennuggets1837 cause we're Scottish!
@@anteshell which is why she is such a strong ally. She had nothing to do with supporting women either. Simply proves how men CAN be the victims and deserve their justice too.
MeToo became a snake that ate it’s own tail, Amber was the creature in it’s final stages of it’s life cycle.
The woman who started it said this as well. She disassociated from the movement when it became hijacked by feminists, money-grifting sexual workers, and hardcore feminist lesbians who literally hate all men.
*its
The Ouroborus...
It hatched with its tail well down its own gullet!
*slow handclap* well said brother, I subbed just for this lol
Got halfway through this video before I realised that I unknowingly already liked it and this is my first time clicking the video. Love it
"Believe All Women!"
Even if two of them are on opposite sides of a legal dispute, and have irreconcilably contradictory testimonies, I should completely believe them both? Yeah, no. Very easy to point out the insanity of such a quote.
Make them settle it out medieval style in an abandoned castle with a longsword and a yeast infection for more realism
My Father was a victim of domestic abuse which led to me being a life long victim of domestic abuse with CPTSD that will never go away. She manipulated the system to ensure that my Father could never get me away from her amd she was allowed to get away with ANYTHING because if he tried to stop it she had just enough truth to spin a web of lies that would have put him in prison. Women have been allowed to get away with atrocities for far too long and men are called pussies for trying to get help. This case put the toxicity of women in the spotlight after a decade of "Believe me! It doesn't matter that I hit him first and have been mentally abusing him for years! Punish him for standing up to me."
And I'm subscribed. Very well handled 👏🏻
This is excellent work! A+
I mean, the MeToo Movement has pretty much been a modern Witch Hunt for the past few years now, (Anyone remember KickVic?) This was just etching the epitaph on the tombstone.
The absolute lack of due process is scary, it transformed into a political weapon of sorts here
@@YBM2007 Indeed. What really pissed me off is, you couldn't even CRITICISE this nonsense. Or you'd be "Insulting the victims of domestic abuse" (For real, some nutter tried that one on me)
Anything that cannot be criticized, is inevitably doomed to be condemned.
@@randomcenturion7264 yeah I called BS on a certain HBO documentary a few years ago and got all kinds of crazy nonsense thrown at me as well. Quite a few abusers posing as 'champions of victims' is my impression, these are the absolute worst you will encounter
In a month the movement took down Harvey Weinstein, and I hoped it would open the flood gates for the rest of Rapewood/Pedowood whatever you wanna call it, but it turned out he was just the scapegoat. Two months in and it was already hijacked by left wing activists and twitter crazies. Pretty much doomed from the start.
I fucking remember that KickVic travesty, and there was also a TossTodd movement alongside that. I mean, Vic and Todd are very close friends, and treat their fans very well. Dude, funi just kicked him unfairly and unjustly while they're silent about Daman Mills' allegations with proof and then the victim was silenced, just like that with a cease and desist. Like, where's justice in that?
Anyways, I hope Johnny's victory is a glimmer of hope for everyone who's lives were ruined because of falsehoods, no matter what their gender is, esp. for Vic.
During the height of MeToo, I was talking about the dangers of eschewing due process, and got brutally criticized for saying so. I finally made an example about a racist woman accusing a black man of rape while he's walking his dog in Central Park, and everyone will believe her unless it's on tape. Turns out I was prophetic, except I got wrong who was walking the dog. Those who defend this have forgotten that women are just as capable of lying to men, and they can be racist and abusers as well.
That Central Park story isn’t how it played out. The man admitted in social to doing what she claimed
@@emberfist8347 He didn't do jack shit. She called the cops on him just because he was black. It's rather amazing how you take true documented evidence as a lie.
same thing happened during the 'war against islam' days vis a vis muslims and/or anyone who APPEARED TO BE muslim
all common sense and due process was shelved in favor of emotionally placating the masses of (lets face it) reactionary and (dare i say it?) unthinking folks
it's a human trait---which is exactly why the framers of the u.s. constitution assured certain RIGHTS and processes which once reneged upon immediately catapult us back to 'mob rule' mentality
Nah, you were not wrong. You just maybe never heard of the man convicted of rape cause a woman dreamnt he raped her. Look it up.
@@emberfist8347 that simply just isn't true
Excellent breakdown and analysis of this topic.
Don't know how I got here be that was an EXCELLENT PIECE, SUBSCRIBED RIGHT AWAY 😉
Most victims of abuse that I've heard from hate Amber's guts right now...but because there's a microscopic minority of victims or "victims" who are on Amber's side, the mainstream media can claim that "victims of abuse are horrified of the results".
The victims that are on Amber's side are also standing on a house of cards of lies themselves, and they don't want their own lies that they got away with exposed
I would also point out here that the media can happily take part of an interview's statement and ignore the rest to make it fit with their 'narrative', as far as I can tell context is for lesser mortals when you have your agenda!
Johnny said me too and because the trial was televised dv and sa survivors more than anyone recognised who was the abuser and who was the victim. It's surprising that anyone managed to find any survivors supporting Amber, it rings of Stockholm syndrome or capitalism because she insulted victims by profiting from others truama to pursue a personal vendetta, they hate her.
here is an interesting take, Amber heard and her shenanigans have actually helped me too. Not for women of course, but for all human beings. its pointed a spotlight that yes men can be the abuse victims too if anything these have been ignored far longer than that of women
Well.. Women are also human beings. I do agree that it helps male victims and I'm glad for that, very much so as I have male friends that are victims of all kinds of abuse and violence and male victims deserve to come out about their experiences and be believed and supported.
But it hasn't done anything good for women (and arguably it hasn't done anything for any victims without a support system).
To be completely frank with you; I was raped a couple years back, I have gotten no professional help (was on a waiting list for PTSD treatment for 1.5 years before I gave up), I lost an entire friendgroup because they didn't want to deal with a traumatized person, I had to install extra locks on my door just this month because a random guy started stalking me with bad intentions (confirmed by my neighbor), I've had years of fear to face alone, and ultimately I've had no one at all that cared to give me any real support but I have had many people start discussions with me on false accusations (which does not in any way apply to my situation).
Women are also still being ignored, it's not a man/woman thing, it's a victim thing, victims are being ignored.
Johnny got support and he even got the law on his side and his abuse was acknowledged, but most regular people never get any real justice and support is a big fat maybe.
Admitting you're a victim is met with more scrutiny and skepticism from others than what a perpetrator might get.
My rapist is not in jail, he hasn't lost anything, the police has pictures of my bruises, they have my entire statement, they told me I had a really strong case.. And they still told me that it might not be worth going after purely because they know it's an emotionally destructive process for a victim, they basically scared me off of wanting to pursue a conviction.
Except it didn’t since Me Too morphed into believe all women.
@@eev14 Yeah that's terrible what happened to you but the blame in this case falls on Amber Heard for undermining the credibility of female assault victims. (Not undermining the societal aspects you brought up just illuminating which angle the case falls under)
@@simonnorgren2911 Well OP specifically mentioned what effect this case has on society as a whole.. So that does include women.
I don't agree that all the blame falls on her for how society responded to this case and how people are projecting that onto other victims.
She is guilty of being a liar and an abuser, but she isn't by herself responsible for society's response, so the way other victims are being undermined isn't her fault, it's a flaw in our culture (just as the way male victims get dismissed is also a flaw in our culture).
It's a dangerous to take this case as some sort of representative case because it is in fact percentage-wise an absolute minority case. So it's not good to use this case to project onto unrelated victims and other allegations made by women.
@@eev14 well this case is definitely going to undermine the credibility of all female victims going forward. It’s sad but it’s the unfortunate truth.
Harvey Weinstein: "I'm a sexual predator."
Asia Argento: "MeToo!"
Both "Me Too" & "Him too" cross a line when they go beyond supporting victims" right to have their voices heard & get their day in court yet ignore the "innocent until proven guilty" human right. I'm a DA & SV survivor who watched the entire trial, and feel offended by assertions that the internet &/or JD's fame swayed me. Amber does NOT represent me, and the only ill-will I feel about her is based on her continued insistence that she does! Hear all her audio recordings
This is great. "Believe women", let alone "Believe all women", was always a stupid even outrageous statement. "Listen to allegations, investigate and believe the evidence" is much more sensible, surely.
Well, yeah. But "believe women" applies to the fact that we should assume truth telling when the claims of abuse are made, and then if it's lies, it will come out in court.
I'm not sure why everyone here thinks that this kills the me too movement.. everything functioned exactly as it should have
@@RBEmpathy I don't think the movement is dead either. But much like the original author of the movement, I too believe the #meto has also strayed from the original path.
This also applies to the "Believe all women" catchphrase. I'm glad you did not take the phrase literally but alot of people did...and that's part of the problem.
@@RBEmpathy ok so guilty until proven innocent… got it
@@analt2379 no. It means you don't assume the woman is lying. Such assumptions can bias your investigation and to overlook key details that would substantiate the statement.
The man isn't presumed guilty, you still have to go to trial.
@@RBEmpathy you said we should believe truth telling when claims of abuse are made no we shouldn’t even if the evidence comes out in court you don’t just get to come to a conclusion though that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take the allegation seriously
You know, is anybody here celebrating Johnny Depp’s win? I just wanted to ask that because of all the unfortunate events that occurred recently and I feel that Johnnys Depp’s victory in this case is a nice change of pace.
I am. It's nice to see Johnny get some justice. Hearing about what Amber was doing and how everyone was treating Johnny pissed me off something fierce, so I'm glad Johnny gets to turn around and give undeniable proof that those fucks, Disney included, were in the wrong for how they treated him
I am, I'm always in favor of taking a nice and long look at evidence and following said evidence to the truth. Everything about this case tells me that between the two of them he was the victim.
Yep.
Yeah and I hope to hear that he'll be acting again in the near future.
Celebrate the liberal for dodging his own politics, priceless. "When was the last time an actor assassinated a president" - Johnny Depp
Outstanding. An actual, logical analysis based on fundamental principles. I didn’t think it possible anymore.
A few small points: In civil court, you are found liable, not guilty. Also, "with malice" is a legal term meaning she knew the statements to be false but chose to publish them regardless.
I am not from the US and not very knowledgeable about the law. During the trial, it became very apparent that she lied under oath. My question is: Will she get charged separately for committing purgery, or was that the job of the judge of the last trial? If she gets away with lying under oath lie that, what message does that send?
asia argento was another metoo figurehead was caught grooming an underage boy nothing happened to her she just got to quietly walk away,lena dunham another one abused her younger sister several times even wrote about it in her book nothing happened to her and her career took off,and we have amber,metoo is nothing more than a toxic projection narcissistic cult that hates men victim or not
Adam Waldman, JD's attorney who made the statements that Amber sued Johnny over in her counterclaim, has been dropping hints in the comments of his Instagram posts about Amber being charged with perjury in the UK and in Australia. I think JD can even file criminal charges against her for committing glassing in Australia if he wanted to, but I doubt he wants to actually put her in jail.
"Believe all women" and the MeToo movement has always been dumb at best and anti-male at worst.
Don't you mean misandric and misanthropic? It's misanthropic as well because they don't defend both of the sexes from DV and SA when the victim happens to be conservative or when the perpetrator happens to be non-white.
Eloquent AF. well reasoned... you got new sub.