I am a DV survivor. I left him 6 years ago but I was in the relationship for 4 years. When I first left him I still thought I loved him. After a few years, I found my self worth again and realized I couldn’t truly love someone that could hurt me so viciously. So her saying she still “loves” him doesn’t make sense after all these years. My ex had just broke me. He gaslighted me into believing many things. I had no interest in watching the trial, but what caught my attention was seeing a clip on TikTok and AHs behavior didn’t make any sense. I knew almost immediately that her behavior was not conducive to someone that had been horribly abused for years. When she couldn’t figure out a timeline of events, I knew something was off. And I do realize that some people forget moments during a traumatic event, however, if you remember some you most likely remember all. I can tell you every thought, smell, and noise during the abusive outbursts. During those moments, you are in fight or flight mode. When you are trying to survive everything is heightened. Your survival instincts seem to take over. So when she couldn’t tell the jury this happened, then this happened, I knew something was off. Also, if she still loves him and wishing no will ill on him, then why did she “act” so frightened to walk past him when she was walking off the stand? Her behavior and words are all over the place and nothing is consistent.
Very good points, thanks for your insight. Sorry to be the English police but where you said "conducive to" the correct words would be "consistent with". Conducive implies causality whereas consistent implies correlation. Not trying to be nitpicky, just trying to help.
I appreciate that you're going off your personal experience but you can't extrapolate that to be the same for everyone. Its very common for people to only remember snapshots or specific parts of an event. It is also quite common to continue loving people who abused you and many abuse survivors struggle with the push and pull of loving someone they have to stay away from for their own safety.
The fact that she says this trial it's the worst thing that ever happened to her, proves Johnny didn't put her trough years of abuse because that would be a way worse experience.
Exactly! I’m a DV survivor and I can’t even imagine comparing that. Like… the abuse I experienced wasn’t as severe as her claimed abuse and I still recoil every single time I think about it.
I don't completely agree, although I don't think Johnny D. abused her, if you went through years of abuse and then people didn't believe you and the whole world agreed that that didn't happen to you it would add to the pain of the abuse making it worse
Nobody in a violent abusive relationship would provoke their partner like Amber did. She wasn't frightened by him at all. She has no idea what walking on eggshells means.
that is so F*ing infuriating to DV survivor like me - i never reported my abuser but i have some awesome friends support and i had counseling and that's how i was able to walkway - i was 19 i made a choice not to purse it through court but it was a choice because i had so much support that i knew i can come out it ok, but it wasn't because i though i wasn't a "perfect victim" - anyone who would say that is because the truth is not on their side
@@betitimas4725 💯. She’s stepping on the backs of real survivors to try and push her narrative. I’m so glad you had the support you needed to get out. ♥️♥️
The way she keeps saying we are just gullible bc we like a man’s movies. How many other men in the me too movement did we stand with??? That one triggers me. Like we would support him regardless. Ugh
As a dv/sa survivor, just these snippets of her interview makes me sick! I’ve been states away from my abuser for almost 7 years and I’m just as terrified of him as the day I left. I’d never say “I still love him” nor would I ever apologize for what I was put through. Amber needs to go touch grass and then get some help!
Ah needs to go through a gang violation of 20 or more on each side of her to get beat down to really know what hurt is all about. She's hurt to many people and got away with it for to long.
She can't stop. Her brain is far too hardwired to expect people to believe her lies. Every experience in her life to this point has proven that to her. She will never allow herself to believe that is no longer true. She will forever search for the correct words to throw together which will eventually make her lies believable.
That's the problem now isn't it? She has gone out of her way to claim he was abuser. And blind media has supported her regardless of the truth otherwise. She has been supported and believed even when she lost. So she would not stop. If there were enough people who called her out like media or Hollywood celebs on this, she would have probably not tried to be everywhere giving interviews.
I was a victim of domestic violence: my ex wife has borderline personality disorder and many of the things Amber said in the taped conversations and the way she said them ran chills down my spine. They were very much alike.
I really wish you well and am glad you found your way out of this relationship. I personally (as a woman with some psychologically issues) think men are too rarely heard on this matter.
@@MarcylalaI have my sister, who has BPD too, I guess, and this is how she speaks like Amber, and sadly, my sister is a liar and loves to make up stories to make herself look like a victim all the time. He even thrashed her ex-husband because she is very agile and physically strong. When my parents asked her why she did this, she cried, explaining that she had just defended herself and that she was being treated poorly by her husband. But she told a different story to me, and she was laughing while doing so, and she found it very funny that she beat her husband and pushed him down the staircase. Although I love my sister since we are close friends most of the time, I'm saying this because it's horrifying seeing her through Amber. As children, I recall her casually blackmailing me and our younger brother by telling our parents dirty little secrets like having a porn magazine if we didn't give her what she wanted as payment for upsetting her.
As an abusive survivor, this all upsets me! When I was 14 (I’m now 32) I was physically, mentally, & sexually abused by my 18 year old “boyfriend” until the age of 16. Everything AH has said from trial to interviews has offended me. My perception is that she tried to envision what a suspenseful movie about an abuse survivor would look like… then she built a character for court that suffered some of the worst pains imaginable. And finally at the end of the movie the survivor forgives & loves the abuser in the most dramatic format. I would never express love for the person who abused me… he robbed me of so much in my youth & enjoyed every moment. AH has created a character in which the most traumatic experiences were endured & now she intends to perpetuate her role as “the wronged victim”… it hearts my heart & turns my stomach!
Thank you for sharing your story with us ❤️. Looks to me from your profile pic that you’ve left that frog in the past and found your prince. I wish you all the happiness in the world.
She is a malignant narcissist and this is the type of toxic and abusive behavior (just as you described) and is something you can count on from them. For example, she has no empathy so she has to create it by mimicking empathy in these scenes from "her" made-up movie. They do not respect authority or the law either. If they are proven wrong they will keep poking the bear no matter what. It's hard to get them to stop. Johnny shouldn't take the bate though. This is very triggering and I wonder if for him as well -- Cptsd can come from narcissistic abuse which is something I went through. The majority of the public already believes him. Pretty soon the MSM won't be interested and hopefully, they will move on to something else.
@@TheBehavioralArts … Thank you so much & yes, I have an amazing husband & 3 beautiful daughters & now have the ability to live in peace! Keep up your amazing work here💕
You got me choked up defending "there is no perfect victim". THANK YOU!!!!!!! She has been infuriating to watch. I saw so much of my abuser in her it's almost scary. THANK YOU again for everything you said!
I honestly felt like she was trying to make herself a victim again! “You’re saying I’m not a perfect victim…that makes me even more a victim cos you’re saying I’m not a good victim and you don’t like me…you’re a bully cos you don’t like me and I’m YOUR victim”.
@@maryfarrell9439 All the while we have her fantastic statement that she has never been wanting to be seen as a victim.. Well then love, what's this whole story about ?..
@@decay79 This trial has proved that personality is more attractive than physical beauty. I don't think there's a single self respecting man in this world who finds her attractive at all
I love how she’s magically a “VICTIM” now, but when Camille suggested she was trying to be seen as a victim, Amber lost her shit 🤷🏻♀️ And Savanna is channeling all of us when she touched on the “donated vs pledged” segment. Her face was everything!
Savannah Guthrie also put an provocative spin on the opening "the public is disgusted and has no sympathy for either of you." Amber went blank for a second trying not to get mad.
@@susand she bit Camille's head off at the inference. The jury had the best view of her in the room. There they were seeing her getting weepy without tears when she's being questioned by her own lawyers, turning it on and off like a switch if there was an objection. Terrible client. Terrible Witness. And by all accounts terrible person.
She knows people don't see her as a victim because she's full of contempt, superiority complex...not what a victim sees self as. Her team must have someone reading social medias and giving her feedback. That's why she stopped fake crying on the stand, because she was getting clowned -Dog, bee- among else, for her dry tears.
On the stand a few weeks ago: "I NEVER wanted to be seen as a victim, nor have I ever called myself one." Now: "I'm not a perfect victim, I'm not a likable victim."
Every time I hear her say she's not a perfect victim I YELL "that's because you're NOT A VICTIM". No one but me hears me but I can't stand her saying those words. Trying so hard to elicit sympathy.
So I'm a survivor of rape and sexual assault by over 5 different men. I've never told my story anywhere, and only a few people in my life know about it. I can't connect with Amber on her allegations of physical abuse, but when she accused Johnny of sexual abuse, it became personal for me. One of the people that raped me was an ex-boyfriend who I thought I had loved. The day he did that to me, I lost every romantic feeling I'd ever felt with him. Sure, the memories of feeling in love were still there, and I could even recall them today, but never in a million years would I ever say "Yes, I still love him" if someone asked me that question. Also, I just wanted to say from the bottom of my heart, thank you for the genuine empathy and anger you expressed in this video for every victim of abuse out there. It wasn't hearing Amber say horrible things like "I'm not a perfect victim" that made me cry, it was seeing that there are people like you who care so deeply that it brings them to deep emotion. Your videos have become much more than reactions to body language for me. They've made me feel seen and loved and that there are people willing to fight for the victims. Thank you
To have your abuser say “I love you” after you’ve broken free of them feels like them trying to push themself on you again. Almost like taunting you, “Look, I’m still here, you’ll never get rid of me. I still love you”. That’s what abusers do not survivors.
They never leave you alone. Not until they've secured themselves an alternate victim. Took mine years to finally let go and stop trying to get me back. I had to file harassment charges several times because no, abusers can't let go.
Thats exactly what she is doing. She know's she's out of pocket several million,,, of course being the insane gold digger she is, she would throw that line out to see if JD would take her back again and make all her shit " go away " and go back to her glorious blood sucking lifestyle she had when she was with JD.. She is mental and should seriously be institutionalised.
Mine did that. Fortunately, I had support that helped me get free of that malevolent manipulation. Someone who "loves" you doesn't abuse you like that.
@@karenk2409 Exactly. She “loves” JD’s money, fame, and lifestyle and that’s what she’s still fighting tooth & nail to steal, no matter what lie she has to tell or what depraved depths she has to sink to.
As a domestic violence survivor of over 50 years, and as an older woman (67), I can say this. Whenever asked by my therapist to speak about how I feel about my abuser, she knows to prepare for PTSD flashbacks, tears, flushing of my face, profuse sweating and EXTREME nausea...some of the many TRUE symptoms of recalling the person who abused you. I would NEVER say I still loved him. She showed no signs of a true DV survivor and has made a mockery of all the women and men who are.
Exactly what I’m saying! I’m racking my brain for no reason, I feel so bad for Johnny him being a DV survivor, and all actually sexual assault survivors who can’t even get someone to believe them because of people like amber heard who have openly lied about it.
Yes, and sometimes we feel shy about, shame of ourselves, sad, angry, .. this girl has nothing of this, she only wants to look like a hero, the strong one that face her abuser. Blá blá blá. Gives me stress to it. I still think that she's trying go into his mind to try manipulate.
Power to you Linda, thanks for sharing and stay strong. I know nothing of the DV perspectives, I haven’t been involved in it, or nor have I seen it, thank God. Thank-you for sharing your insight.
My friend doesn’t speak out the name of her abuser, nothing would make her mention that name and she wouldn’t look the direction of her abuser too. But Amber mentioned Johnny’s name on countless occasions throughout the trial and was continuously looking at him. It was a complete reverse in Johnny’s case, he wouldn’t look at her or mention her name, he’d rather refer to her as Ms Heard. That made it clear to me who she was
An abuser says " no one will believe you or nobody will care" this was said to me as a child from my abusive sister. Amber said these exact words to Johnny. This went off like fireworks when I heard it.
If she had been sexually abused in the way she stated, there is NO way on earth she could have no ill feeling towards him. And you're right, all through the trial she tried to paint him as a 'monster'. Where did that go? She is a very sick and deluded woman. No wonder so many DV victims are angered by her. In this interview, she even admits that she's not part of that 'group'.
yes, because she is the type of woman that will keep people from believing true abuse survivors in the future. she did not only use JD, she also used all survivors.
I love how you don’t do clickbait Amber-bashing. You go in openly and your excitement about her being an excellent example for clusters of deception is infectious. In this video especially loved finding out about excluding herself from DV victims - had not picked up on that. Great video, thanks!
It has taken me 3 decades and hundreds of hours of therapy to be able to say "I wish him well". And I am lying through my teeth when I say it, but at least I can get the words out now. And my abuser didnt do half the things she claimed Johnny did. This whole thing has been very triggering. She was 100% correct when she said this was a setback for woman. It was and that's because she made a mockery out of us. How many victims are now going to be told "oK aMbEr HeArD"
Those prominent feminists who continue to support AH are hurting women equally bad. They paint feminism to be a war on all men and I can’t stand it. Several has stated that they’d wish we would support AH bc of the fact that she’s a woman, even tho if she’s lying about the abuse. I couldn’t believe my own eyes, when I saw this opinion being aired. Why isn’t the truth the important part?? They’re guilty of what all feminists has bashed the patriarchy for: The caring, supporting and protecting a person due to their gender alone, regardless of the person’s abusive and rotten behavior. I thought this was exactly what feminists wanted to stop! As a feminist I’m just as upset with those feminists, as I am with AH. Feminism is about equal respect, equal possibilities and the equal right to be heard as a victim. Not turning the tables and become what is wrong with patriarchy. Why would anyone want that? I say this as a left feminist btw 😏
Exactly 💯 I'm a DV SV survivor as well, I've lived with severe PTSD and I can straight up tell you she's lying through her teeth about all of it!! She wouldn't know PTSD if it hit her in her arrogant forehead!!!! And she's so proud of her pathetic attempts at making big statements that make no sense at all, this woman is a real piece of work!!
There was something about Amber’s face in court that instantly told me she was lying. I don’t know what it was, but I was sort of able to pin it down to this look of widened eyes and upturned eyebrows that she has a lot, especially when sat listening to others. It’s an expression that I recognise from my own abusers, almost like a way of saying “look how innocent I am, sitting here listening politely”, head tilted to show she’s listening and all of that stuff. I know nothing about body language but as a DV survivor I could instantly tell from that look that she was lying. She wanted to look innocent and respectful, but for me it was a massive tell that I picked up on immediately.
Same same. I have what I call my manipulative ex-girlfriend who made the same facial expressions. Fake innocence, hiding contempt, and her abusive personality.
@@hartwellcomedy I was just about to comment "it's a kind of snakelike contempt, hiding behind feigned innocence". And I saw your comment! So glad other people see this. I think it's pretty common with all cluster B personality disorders. The hatred and superiority behind the false meekness.
I'm a DV Survivor and when I watched Amber Heard's interview, I felt sickened to my core. In fact, the entire trial I had a very hard time watching her because it was so triggering for me. She paints a story in her head of what she thinks it's like to be a real DV victim, but anyone that's been TRULY involved in abuse can see right through all of her inconsistencies. Thank you for reflecting on what SO many of us feel, but have a hard time explaining. You make it a lot more manageable.
Yeah. The perfect victim quote here is utterly disgusting. I've been in situation where my partner was physically abusive (I'm male) and I'm actually offended, not angry per say but deeply saddened by this. The nerve that amber truly believes she is a representative of DV survivors, and by her taking our experiences to be put on a pedestal just to feed her ego and narcissism is abhorrent. If anything that quote alone proves in my mind amber is a parasite, and a leech that ironically screams abusive and controlling. Smh.
I’m a DV survivor and AH reminds me so very much of my abuser who was obsessed with controlling me. I started watching the trial as an impartial observer…but it didn’t take me long to realize who was the instigator in the abuse and who was the abused. And watching her during the trial and in these interviews it is apparent to me that she’s trying her very best to get and hold his attention. Unfortunately these antics are at her own expense and making her a pariah to the whole world.
Her to say " I understand that the average person.." vs "I understand how people would.." just indicates that she's in a class of her own in her own mind. People , of all walks of life (Hollywood stars included) looked at her and thought the same , not just "the average person".
That is exactly what I though , when she says “ the average person “ is because she thinks she is superior as the rest of the world. Very common of a narcissist behavior.
I'm an abuse survivor, not in relation with DV, but during my childhood. I'm studying psychology right now, and that also sheds some light on everything for myself. There's a clear timeline in events or non-events for me. Sounds weird at first, but let me explain: as I was younger, around 4 to 8 maybe even 9 years old, there was stuff happening to me, I can't clearly remember, just parts of it, and even those are really blurry. It's often hard enough to believe myself that it happened, I would never paint an overly dramatic picture of it. The other thing is, at one point I started to consciously recollect abusive events in my life, which has two causes. The first one, I grew older, my brain started handling things differently, I developed more of a self-sense. The second thing was, it wasn't sexual abuse. Now, I know myself better than anyone else ever could, and I'm pretty sure, would it have been another act of sexual abuse, I would've gone back into the state that I was in as younger child; I'm sure I would struggle with my recollection just as much as I do for the few years earlier. That's something common, something that protects our brains from such horrible moments, and even though I hate the fact that everything is so blurry in my mind, I'm glad that I can't recall every single moment of it. What I effectively wanted to say is; You don't just forget some parts of the abuse and remember others randomly. It's just not how it works. I don't know. It was just something that came up out of a rarely visited place in myself, and maybe being heard is just something I always wanted. Oh well, that got emotional pretty fast. Still, thanks to everyone who took their time to read this, whether there is a response to it or not. And my final conclusion: Amber Heard's disgusting behavior triggered me. I'm sure that tells something, at least it does to me. (Sorry if my phrasing or word choice seems weird at some point, English isn't my native language.)
@@FairyBogFather I'm glad it made you feel seen, because you are. I think a lot of abuse survivors had the same thoughts, therapists, people who are close with survivors, you name it - and like Amber Heard showed us more than clearly, no act in the world comes close to what people like us, who encountered abuse, really go through.
When Amber said “I’m not a perfect victim” it confirmed my suspicion she was just playing a part for the cameras. Amber’s idea of a “perfect” victim is a fragile woman who breaks down in tears when recalling the abuse she suffered. Amber tried to play what she thought was a perfect victim and she failed miserably
but there are actual victims of dv or rape, who are denied to file a complaint at the police station... because the policemen don't take them seriously. because those victims don't look like the "good victim", they don't cry, they aren't bruised, or they're still drunk, their clothes aren't torn, or they're prostitutes... the prejudices are real.
They jumped on Dr Spiegel saying "we don't expect our victims to be perfect" (one of the very little I agreed with him on), and ever since then she & Elaine etc have talked about her as "an imperfect victim" because they think it makes a great soundbite/sub-header etc. The trouble is, that AH has trouble switching the perspectives and so the opposite of her being an imperfect victim is her being _not a perfect victim_, which to her means that she blieves a perfect victim exists (and we know from her court reaction what she thinks of victims). However, the wording doesn't translate like that for the reason Spidey highlights....there is "no perfect victim" because the connotations of thinking someone is a "perfect" for being a victim is abhorent to most of us - in fact, I'd go so far as to say, that her attitude is the way an abuser would think "this person will make the perfect target because they're a man & use drugs, so no on will believe him, i might even get him believing it himself if I convince him he did stuff when he passed out." = perfect victim to get their hooks in. Sickening. However, she seems to have already forgotten her aggressive rebuttal of Camille calling her out on wanting to be seen as a victim, when she showed us what she actually thinks about victims (on top of the way she's talked the rest of the time about JD on the tapes when she hit him or he tried to remove himself from her physical fight etc), she thinks victims are weak, and even if it would have bolstered her story in the heat of that moment in court she showed us that _she's_ not weak & so not a victim. If at the time she'd said "I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor," then the conversation would have been different. She's all about her soundbites though, that's why we have this "I'm not a good victim, I'm not a perfect victim" response, it's like she thinks she's in an episode of Law & Order SVU. You can almost hear their dramatic transition noise they make on the show whenever she pauses.
Your point about her being genuinely affected by the term "global humiliation" makes a lot of sense to me. If you pay attention, the times during her testimony where she felt the most sincere, were the times when she was talking about how this whole thing has bruised her ego - not when she was describing how she was abused.
I am very empathetic. I am a sympathy crier, big time! Every time AH shows “sadness” I only feel embarrassment. I cringe. It’s not real. I’ve felt nothing but embarrassment and anger when watching her. The “perfect victim” comment had me hot! Didn’t she say she never saw herself as a victim? And now she is saying she wasn’t the “perfect victim” and that’s why she wasn’t believed?! Ugh this woman makes me angry. She is her own worst enemy. The more she talks, the deeper the hole she digs.
This hole she is digging cannot be deep enough! I think she is suffering from schizophrenia! Not one sentence make sense and it's more or less word salat... fire! 🥵🥵🥵
I think she was telling the truth when she said “loaning her voice to a bigger cultural conversation at the time.” To me, that screams “i created a story to share during a bigger cultural conversation we were having at the time.” Shes telling on herself. She saw what was happening with women in the media, she saw the opportunity being with an A list celebrity with known problems, and she took the opportunity to feign an abuse story people would be willing to accept.
yes! She ws trying to ride the coattails of the "me,too" movement for some increased popularity and some interest in her. It didn't work!!! She is a very disturbed and very dangerous manipulator, and I am soooo glad that Johnny finally saw her for what she is, and escaped!!!!!!!!!!
As a survivor, her entire testimony upset me. I've never seen a true survivor look in the eyes of someone questioning them. It took me years to do that after years of intense therapy. She makes my blood boil with her statements.
I'm a survivor and Amber has triggered my PTSD since I started observing some of the trial. This interview had me yelling at the screen too. The way she talks about how she loves Johnny and wishes him no ill will - I can't even think back to when my relationship with a psychopath started and seemed wonderful without feeling sick to my stomach! When I discovered the patterns of his behavior, learned what exactly gaslighting was and how it was happening to me, discovered ALL the lies, etc...I have never fallen out of love with someone so quickly. When I realized that I was in very dangerous territory because he was talking about me "disappearing", I couldn't cut ties with him quickly enough.
I'm glad you're out of that now! I agree though, I have lots of ill will and bad feelings towards my abusive ex. There was a couple things from the trial that AH did/said that reminded me of things he had done to me that I had TOTALLY forgotten about.
I am sorry you went thru this. I agree. I once loved my abuser, before he began to beat me. The first time he hit me I "forgave" him. We had been living together a year no abuse at all, we got married and he hit me for the first time on our wedding night. I had hoped it was some isolated freak incident..i justified it as stress, thought it *was just* a one time thing, after all he never did that before, never put me down etc, I couldnt see how he was an abuser yet held it in over a year. I also believed his "I'm sorry" and all that stuff... I honestly didnt want to believe that was the type of man he was. however about a month later he literally kick the shyt out of me.. I knew then he *was* an abusive a$$hole.. I stopped loving him right then and there and now when I look back at the time before the abuse began, I don't see the love I thought was there, I don't feel he "was a great guy", I never look at that first year and a half we were together (before the abuse began) as a magical time... I look back at it as all BS, it wasn't real. I don't know one DV survivor that looks at the time before the abuse as anything positive at all. I have never heard a DV survivor speak of how they loved their abuser (past or currently loving them) I speak at battered women shelter, fundraisers, high schools etc telling my story (I've even spoken before congress) and many many people come up to me afterwards and tell them their stories .. either past or what they are currently going thru... not one has ever spoke of love for their abuser. Sorry long comment didn't mean to write a book here
I've been severely triggered as well! My mother and brother and 2 long term exes were exactly like AH and it has made me sick to my stomach too. Especially this interview with her being the martyr. She's so sick I really hate her.
When she says "it was the most humiliating and horrible experience of my life," she's describing the Trial not the Abuse. You can see the real emotion in her eyes. She is tearing up and her chin trembles. She was never Abused but this trial did Humiliate her, and she brought this on herself.
Her getting caught in her BS is what’s humiliating and then having to defend her lies is double humiliating and really stressful as it’s hard to keep track of all those lies.. I can’t with this chick! And the most horrible thing she’s ever gone through SHOULD be those excruciatingly detailed episodes of abuse, from 6 to 10+ years ago! And she calls herself a ‘victim’ now? WTF?? Johnny didn’t actually text that to her, right wasn’t it to his sister? And he said “she is BEGGING for global humiliation”. I don’t think Amber even knew about that until he submitted his phone records, ironically she didn’t submit hers. Yes, Amber is just digging herself in deeper and deeper and that must be because of her delusional high opinion of herself.. notice how she is educating us “average people”. She will never learn and never give up… something legal and very serious needs to be done because it’s obvious that even a trial and this verdict has not even slowed her down.. maybe worse now… she is her worst enemy…
Yes, I keep thinking this all the time about her true sad feeling moments, ALL of it is self-pity. All I see is her being salty for getting caught in serious lies and (rightfully) losing. It's basic emotional manipulation and I've seen it way too much back when my mother emotionally and verbally abused me. It pisses me off knowing some people don't know better and actually mistake it for some sort of remorse. To clarify I'm pissed at Amber for continuing to abuse, not those who don't know better.
Being abused in childhood still creates anger in me even after therapy. It's the betrayal. How do you love someone who betrays you, mocks you and then blames you. Clearly a lie, it has to be
I am a survivor of verbal and physical abuse from my ex husband, and have C-PTSD from it. A lot of things AH has said trigger me in the wrong way. I think, most of all, her statement of "Why would I?" on the stand, so nonchalantly, about whether she'd be afraid of the repercussions of sharing a disrespectful photo of "her abuser". I would NEVER. EVER. Because my very first thought would be how severely I would be beaten after doing something like that. You can't do that to a real abuser without knowing you'd be violently attacked. That was the defining moment for me. Her stating she still loves him and smiling when discussing their relationship proves he was a good man to her and never an abuser. I always think, was I even in love? Or was it simply trauma bonding? For me, I have zero positive feelings for him. My stomach churns at the very thought of being with him and I feel physically sick. She's only proving he's never touched her, she was the abuser, and she longs for the times when someone was good to her. You never long for times when you were abused. And when you're out of a relationship like that, no amount of good times will overshadow the reality of the bad. Every time I watch her, I feel sick. Because she is the one who reminds me of my abuser, not JD. The abuser is the one who wants back in, not the victim.
@@jessicacortese1168 There are so many survivors out there that need to. We need to stand up and protect each other. It's the only way to move forward.
I just replied to someone else’s comment about this. I’m reading through all of these from the top and at least three of us so far have listed “Why would I?“ in it’s quoted form FIRST! We get it!! I wanted to scream at some of the LawTubers that “wait, you’re missing something extremely important here.” Abuse survivors get it.
As someone who has experienced abuse, her lies are insulting in my opinion. Gaining sympathy on the backs of real victims to prop herself up. Terrible 😢
@@Jezebel066 Exactly! 💯 She is truly, truly unbelievable. I truly hope & pray that she gets much therapy, especially as she's now a Mother! I'm a Psychologist, and let me say, there is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with getting therapy. And I'd say, she would be doing the correct thing, if she starts getting therapy again, and especially geared toward not only her personality issues, but for her to become a much safer & loving new Mother. I learn so much too, from you, as well, The Behavioral Arts!!! I would love to work with you at different times. Especially with you having the Mentalist abilities, and then myself having 2 degrees in Clinical Psychology, Abnormal Psychology, & then too, having certificates The, in The Art Form of Abnormalities in Psychology. Is there another media that may have your email, or other way to contact? Thank you so very much hun! Kristin 😘😓😱🔥🙏
At this point (and for weeks now), she's making a majority of us, real victims, sick to our stomachs. Can't imagine what it all was for Johnny, the whole trial, the choice to have to expose himself so thoroughly in order to have a chance to win, and now this... I'm so glad he's now able to feel the wide, deep support, worldwide, of other abuse victims, and his fans. He's moving on. She's not. And that on itself tells a lot too.
Thank you!!!! I've literally been screaming at the television regarding AH "I love him". I am a survive abuse victim, both DV & SV, & still to this day, over 25 years later, wish nothing on him except for him to rot - I loathe him in every possible way. I am no expert but during the trial it was painfully obvious to me she was lying & I loathe her for her pretence - how dare she - she makes my blood boil.
This was excellent!!! Thank you Spidey!! I appreciate the breakdown you give; i understand now why AH comments made me sooooo angry. With intelligent analysis like this, I don't have to spin out on her bs. Starting my behavioral arts library...thank you. ~another grateful survivor.
All of us who have experienced abuse, even rape, know that she is not telling the truth. I grew up in domestic violence with my mom as the abusive one, she still is at almost 80s years old. Like Johnny with his childhood trauma the first instinct is to run from it, like he did. It's obvious she's the abuser, but that she puts the jurors down...it's just narcissism, like she thinks if she badgers people enough, beats them down, they'll believe her. Not the way it works.
I am a survivor of abuse. When the authorities told me “we can’t proceed specifically with his background” (which meant he had “power”) I felt horrible. I often say “I don’t hate him but if he dies I am not gonna cry” I also say “I thought I was in love, but that’s not love”. The perfect victim, yeah right, that’s why we don’t believe her, bc we know she is lying
Good points, Athena! When the tape in court from Johnny says "I loved you for so long, but you were not real..." THAT is what an abuse victim thinks. Amber bombed!
Well it's possible she never planned to lie but you know how sometimes you stretch the truth a little or just exaggerate a few things and then you tell one more little white lie to cover up the first one and then another and the funny thing thing is one thing leads to another and it turns into this Chimera you can't control and you're down a rabbit hole you can't climb out of. I think that's what happened here. Amber never meant it to get so carried away to end up in court.
@@jonfreeman9682 AH virtually said that in one of the leaked audios we heard. She said something to the effect of "I didn't mean it all to get this out of hand but one little lie I told snowballed into one thing after another and now here we are". Massive rolling of eyes.
Agreed. I think that phrase is so infuriating & hurtful to survivors, is it shows contempt & disdain for survivors. “I know I’m not the perfect victim” to a talking down to victims it is setting herself above others, of I’m not like them, but with disdain like I’m not the perfect little girl there is an air of disgust & judgement in a negative way. She said something on the stand as well as her deposition that had a similar air about Im not one of those weak women- disgust, disdain, contempt for survivors of domestic violence & rape. I think that might be why we are all reacting is while she has tried to dress herself in the costume of abuse survivor it is a costume only, her truth is she has contempt for women she judges as weak & was only using it to fight his team’s insistence on a post nup during their divorce which in the most telling of all on her cross when Camille brilliantly executed the “…Lt Kendrick gave the order because that’s what you told him to do, & when it went bad you cut these guys loose, you doctored the logbooks… Colonel Jessup did you order the Code Red!!??” And Amber replied THAT’S why I wrote the Op Ed! (Because Johnny is a powerful man, everyone loves him & seek to curry favor, come out of the woodwork…) She never thought it would get this far. Remember her crying on the call this is going to hurt my credibility- he said we will go to the papers, we will tell them we love each other this has gotten out of hand we will remove this from the media…she interrupted with a comment what will people think of her & he said why did you write the article? I didn’t put this out there, you did. And she said you made me. I didn’t make you. “Your team.” Ok so I’ll talk to the team. For me that recording was the most damning. So what is she doing now? Same thing she did during their relationship according to their therapist- control the narrative. Now she is wrapping herself in the flag, in America, free speech & speaking to Power. Oh so what, trying to position yourself as the voice for domestic violence & Me Too backfired now you’re going to try to play to the America First Crowd?! I have had it with this C U next Tuesday. I am enraged because I actually was raped with a foreign object! (Cordless phone) I was actually grabbed by my hair and dragged through the living room thrown into walls. Thrown into a glass frame, dented my nose, chipped front tooth. I was grabbed by my throat & lifted off the ground. Kicked in the middle of my back knocked to the ground. I was raped while he put a pillow case over my face & I made myself small inside my head slowed my breathing afraid he would accidentally smother me if he came too hard so I stopped screaming stopped fighting just focused on my breathing & went somewhere else deep inside to a field yellow wheat down the path into the woods to the crystal pond so that whatever happened to my body wasn’t happening to me because I wasn’t there it was just my body it wasn’t me. So yeah. I wish we still had a town square & were allowed to throw rotten apples at people who were as villainous as she. It is not ok for her to use trauma like it is a game. I have not been able to be in a full relationship since 1999 as a result of my trauma & PTSD. I can have close friendship intimacy or just sex. I cannot have sex with someone I have feelings for. It is too much. And I am & was a strong & intelligent woman. Her stereotype of the perfect victim of some weak woman who is frail & vulnerable is as insulting as the old lies SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT, WHAT WAS SHE WEARING, BOYS WILL BE BOYS. Again, now that the tide has turned & it backfired on her & the Me Too Movement is out of fashion, she’s trying to make it about free speech. Well accusing someone of a crime isn’t what anyone is talking about when they speak of free speech honey! That’s called slander, defamation & good old fashioned LIES. Sure you can say it but be prepared to reap the consequences. And sorry everyone, she triggers me to a bad place 😓
I love your passion when talking about her being a perfect victim. 100% truth. What blatant disrespect for real victims. I am glad this was publicized, so many people watched it. I think it opened a lot of eyes out there, and hopefully push some people that are victims to try to escape their situation.
As someone who has personal experience with survivors of DV and SA, her statement that she has no hard feelings or ill will feels off, especially after 6 years and a lawsuit. I can see feeling conflicted, especially right after the end of the relationship, feeling some attachment along with anger and hurt and fear and disgust. But nothing but love 6 years later? Absolutely not. Also, the fact that she never once expressed concern that he may hurt someone else was a red flag for me. Speaking out is hard, and from what I've seen, a big motivating factor for survivors to speak out is preventing harm to others in the future. The idea that JD is as violent as she has described, but yet she's not worried about him hurting others seems more than a little off to me. Just my two cents.
Now you mentioned it, "prevent harm to others in the future" if she didn't speak out. Yes, she never made that statement. No concern for other victims.
Literally said she got a bottle forced inside her, got a broken nose, beaten with heavy rings, dragged across the floor. As any true victim knows, you often want them to get a taste of their own medicine.
I heard the warning and I thought to myself "oh, I'll be fine. I've heard enough from her to already be mad. Surely she couldn't do any worse." And she blew my expectations out of the park. I have to say, you were right. It's infuriating. I'm also writing this before getting to the analysis, so you may mention it, but she mentions "I'm not the perfect victim, I'm not a likable victim" or whatever else she spews. Didn't she once say, in a very aggressive tone, that she has NEVER claimed to be a victim? Interesting.
I can say as a DV survivor...she is full of it, especially saying she has "no ill will toward him." The statement of a "perfect victim" makes my blood boil also! Where to start with her lies?! The nightmares of being beaten and raped by my first husband are enough for me to still have ill will! The fact that I still deal with those nightmares occasionally makes me still have ill will toward him. The fact that I was terrified of relationships for so long makes me still have ill will still toward him. The fact that he made me believe I was not worthy of love or happiness makes me still have ill will toward him. The fact that I was told every day by him that I was ugly and stupid still makes me have ill will toward him. I could name many other reasons. Thank God today I know my worth and strength. He was the weak and ugly one...not me! I was a victim...period! She has mocked us DV victims with her lies and she should be ashamed! I truly pray for her ugly heart...she sure needs it.
The way she ferociously claimed in court that she isn't a victim didn't sit well with me. This term of "perfect victim" has been on my mind for days. It makes my blood boil too!!
@@hughmungus431 A survivor, thriver or whatever word one who has been assaulted and abused uses to describe themselves as, whether you like it or not, was indeed a victim. Too bad if you don't like that word! It doesn't make it any less true! The OP had the courage to share their story and you're shutting them down. Your comment actually feels like emotional manipulation!
@@hughmungus431 you are certainly entitled to your opinion....but the word victim is not tied to just women. There are male victims, as well. If that word makes you "feel gross" I really don't know what to tell you. I WAS A VICTIM OF DV! You know what I find gross?! A man or woman thinking it is ok to beat the shit out of their partner, mentally and verbally abuse them, and sexually assault them...that is what I call gross! What I also find gross is any man or woman who accuses an innocent person of these things, when it is not true...that is equally as gross in my opinion. If that is what you took out of my comment, you totally missed the point of it! I have never been told by a male or female that using the word "victim is gross." I will continue to say that I was a victim and survivor of DV! My support group and counselor use the word, as well. You can use whatever word your heart desires, but....so can I! Not trying to be a "prick" either. Your opinion of me is none of my business! Have a great day!
@@kellyj79 You are very welcome. As a survivor I can relate to everything you have said. I'm still dealing with the aftermath. I don't feel worthy of love either and the thought of another relationship scares me. I don't know if I could ever be in one again and I most definitely have ill will towards my ex.
What I, as an abuse survivor, often hear “get over it”. I was in an abusive relationship from literally the drive home from getting married. He did everything he could to control me, limit my topics of conversation, what I wore, who I had contact with including my family. The physical attacks were horrible, but I seriously preferred that to the emotional abuse. Married at 18, divorced at 23. It was when my boys were 2 and newborn and he went after them in anger, I thru him out - which is what he wanted and was too cowardly to discuss it. I was very lucky to meet a wonderful man for 34 years and he dealt with a lot from me. Don’t scare me, don’t force me into a room or place I don’t want to go, don’t yell or cuss me out, don’t grab me aggressively, don’t be aggressively during intimacy- and the list goes on. At 73, I’m here to tell you, it still affects me, not that I want it to, but it’s involuntary. My current boyfriend did a lot of changing because of my involuntary responses, flinching, getting soo nervous I shook, jerking away, soo anxious I’d get sick. Soo, even though people say get over it, they’ve never lived in terror, fright, beatings both physical and emotional. So here it is 55 years later and my scars are just a bit less visible. Abuse leaves a lifetime of emotional damage.
I am glad you are with a man now who understands how badly your past scarred you and is loving you so much to go out of his way to make you feel safe. This is both sad and nice to read
How lucky you are to have found a wonderful understanding man - that really loves you and has stood by you after all you endured. I hope you let him know that as well. I wish I could have only been as lucky.
I understand the feeling of involuntary flinching and thing’s affecting you years later. I was bullied verbally and physically as a kid. To this day if something is being thrown across a room or outside, even if it’s not being hurled towards me or anyone else (or if my husband or son are just playing ball), I will always block it no matter what. It’s a reflex action. My husband always says, I would never throw anything at you or hurt you, don’t you trust me? I remind him that it’s not that I don’t trust him, I just can’t control those reflexes. Out of instinct I anticipate it.
Amber says, the trial was the most humiliating and horrible thing she's ever been through. Well damn... i thought being emotionally, physically and sexually abused was the worst thing she's ever been through. Nice to know she has her traumas prioritized.
Relative value statement. A bit terrifying if you assume both events are real but I think it places real trauma over invented trauma and is thus actually honest and healthy.
That bothered me as well. But I also guess that she'd easily just say that "oh yeah, of course, that was way way worse, how could it not have been?" It's kind of her pattern (I guess) that every time something bad happens it's the most humiliating and dehumanising thing she's ever experienced.
For a narcissist, the revealing of themselves and the breaking of their carefully crafted public image is a nightmare. This is what they focus on the most. To lose it is to them the most horrible thing.
As an abuse survivor, this angers me that I was shouting at my screen while watching the interview. She clearly doesn't know how it is to be violently abused and it just makes my blood boil that she even has the audacity to separate herself from all of us DV victims, if she was indeed abused, which I highly doubt. She is just a liar and a gold digger who is using the pain of other women to get what she wants.
I am now 6 years out of my abusive relationship and I can easily say that not only do I actively have to remind myself that I am safe and deserve to have healthy relationships. That being the victim doesn’t make me a weak person but that I was taken advantage of. A piece of me was ripped from my soul and taken by a poor excuse of a man. I was gas lit and quite literally made to believe I was crazy-a lot of what she said on the stand was similar to my experiences with my ex. I was across country away from my whole family-and was left hiding in a garbage container until the cops came. This changed who I am. This broke me and no one else was able to put me back together other than myself (thru years of therapy). I would never ever say I love him. I don’t love him. I quite literally hate him. There’s a difference between coming to peace with your past and holding hate towards the person who abused you. I am at peace with that part of my life, I have a wonderful support system and I’m secure and safe with myself. But I still hate him with every fiber of my being. I try to not let my past consume my present but there are triggers. There are moments where I am lost in a flashback. It’s unfair that she’s portraying herself as a victim and to further it saying she’s not a “likable” one. I don’t give a rats ass if as a victim I am liked. When she said that this trial was a step back for victims of DV/SA she wasn’t wrong. But it’s not because of Johnny we have this set back. It’s because of HER. She took advantage of every single victim out there by claiming to be one herself. I remember seeing her depo in 2016 and knowing she was lying when talking about her sister. I had just gotten on a plane in the middle of the night to leave my abuser and remember seeing her depo and actively saying-is this who I am now? A victim. And I am. But through the years I’ve found strength in my healing-not my abuse-but my healing. She set the clocks back for DV/SA victims. And quite honestly I hope she rots the same way I hope my abuser rots. Sorry I got very heated and am floored that she would have the nerve to do an interview and claim she is still a victim and is telling the truth. There is a difference between reality and someone’s perception of reality. Her perspective is she is a victim but the reality is-she’s a liar and a shitty one at that.
My heart goes out to you Kayla, I saw first hand what a narcissist can do to someone. Those of us on the perimeter feel helpless to do anything for fear of making it worse. You made it through this, you are stronger than you think. I see in Amber everything that we see in "our" narcissist, he still has some influence over his victims, but they are getting stronger every day.
"Perfect victim" infuriates me as well. She is so consumed with what people "think". It's gross. Also, as a survivor, I can't even speak my abuser's name without feeling sick. No love for him. Just typing this out is making my stomach hurt. When I meet a stranger with the same first name, I instantly don't trust them. Unfair, yes, but I can't help it.
Yes, one want to throw up.... If I hear about a person even from the same country as him.... or yes a similar name.... I get sick to my stomach as well. If I ever had to go to court - I would sit like Johnny did! Not ever see that f***** face again!
Funny how on the stand it was Johnny this and Johnny that. Then in these interviews it's Jack Sparrow... hmm has she been reading DV survivor's comments on social media? Surely not! 🤔
Hi all, I was abused physically as a child, and watched my mother get abused by an alcoholic father. At no point did either of us ever talk to him the way AH talked to JD. We were walking on egg shells at all times, and would do anything to not set him off. We would apologies for things we didn't even do so as to not contradict him. When I heard the tapes of AH interacting with JD, it was obvious she was not being abused by him at all or ever. She makes me so angry for faking being a victim of abuse. And I know in my heart she is faking and is a liar.
You are absolutely right. AH antagonizes JD. This is the last thing a victim of DA would ever do. Victims are in survival mode, and do not want to set off the abuser.
I agree. She recorded the stuff to make him look bad and all it did was show it wasn't as she said at all. Her own recordings began digging her own grave and she's carried on since. I think she didn't bank that he'd admit she did it to him and she even taunts him that he won't do that
I can only agree. I was also abused in my childhood too (but not "too much" - dunno how to express it... I just know... well some ppl suffered more)... her obvious lies make me so mad... when you are a victim, you learn to avoid confrontation, you learn to read signs to... flee or whatever you can do when you need, you even learn to get deceptive not to provoke any bad reaction or... some retaliation. And now she talks about "a good victim" ? "a perfect victim" ? ... the only ppl talking about good victims or perfect victims are either the predators... or ppl trying to act perfectly like a victim. PERIOD !!!
She claims she is reacting to abuse ..and it took her a long time because she didn’t know how to respond to it. BUT that doesn’t make any sense because she grew up in a home with an abusive, alcoholic father -to her, her sister, and her mom-so she KNOWS what abuse is. She claims she didn’t know how to respond to abuse so she had to get “used to it” and then knew how to respond back? That doesn’t make sense! She Abused her ex, abused her sister. Friends/people around her..it doesn’t make sense!!
@@kerrysullivan6503 I understand your comment, but I did antagonise an abuser, because I was so angry and they were a coward, when I got stronger and they were weaker, but only when I was in a stronger position, but she's lying through her teeth and the tears are fake x
Dude, you’re awesome! Thank you for sharing your well-educated insights, as well as getting upset at the things that matter. She is clearly a troubled individual, who is hurting, and has developed negative coping strategies to deal with her unresolved life tensions. But, to say she’s the voice or face of survivors of abuse because she was involved in a ‘cultural conversation at that time’ is OUTRAGEOUS!!! Thank you, again, for not remaining unbiased when you see injustice! 🧡
When I told my Psychologist that I was watching this trial she asked 'why', and I said "I know I shouldn't be watching it, as it is triggering for me", I added "But I think she is lying" she said "oh really what makes you say that?" I won't go into word for word after that, but basically said that she is telling it like a story out of a novel or a movie script, way to much detail. As an abuse survivor, you remember the abuse and the feeling (fear), when you are asked to tell the traumatic experience, I still years later, I breakdown crying, tears rolling down my face, snot flowing out my nose, unable to retell the horror. It's something that never leaves you. It's even harder to say it out loud. I think you don't even have to be a victim to see she was not telling it from a victims perspective. Not even close. She acted like the abuser. It's terrible what that woman has done to true survivors of DV and SV. She has to stop.
Your post resonates way too well with me. I quite recently told one of my close friends of my abuse. I couldn’t look her in the eyes as I tried to explain. I couldn’t go into detail at all. It even took her to put two and two together from the clues I gave her to finally understand.
You are correct ... she tells it like a movie script and you can tell, because there a KEY DETAILS MISSING ... like talking WITH INTENSITY about HER OWN BLOOD, which must have flown plenty during the "Australia incident", because she mentions cuts from glass in her earlier (UK) testimony ... but never talks about the blood ... and if you bleed and have glass stuck inside you (shards can be rather small!), you need to ease the pain with running water and also clean the wounds with it ... AND YOU NEED SOMEONE ELSE LOOKING AT THE WOUNDS CLOSELY to get rid of the glass. She did NEITHER of these things, which makes it absolutely clear that it is A STORY and NOT REAL! The same is true for the "broken nose", because a nose bleeds quite a bit when it gets hit (just watch a particularly tough boxing match). That STORY was taken from "21 Jump Street - pilot/episode 1&2", where Johnny's character starts as a street cop but breaks the noses of several of his partners; they dont show the blood in that TV series and Amber probably copied/adjusted her story from there. [It's up on YT, so you can check yourself.]
I grew up with a mother who has borderline personality disorder and so much of what Amber says reminds me of my mom. Even her facial expressions and gestures are triggering to me. My mom will always paint herself as the confused victim who just wants to love people and be loved in return. My mom is a serial liar who will say whatever she needs to say in order to get her way and get people on her side. I’ve seen people shocked that amber could have lied about everything bc it’s such crazy behavior, but I’ve lived with someone who has behaved in the same way and I know it’s possible.
This this this! I too have a borderline mother and have had relationships with borderlines. Just because one is nice and would never sink so low, does NOT mean others are the same. I mean sheesh, people can be nasty AF. Some women do lie about being abused. "Oh come on, what would a woman gain from that?" Are u f*****g kidding me?! And yes, I too find this triggering. My mum is seriously manipulative. I'm well into adulthood and still suffer the consequences.
Thank you for sharing and I am sorry for what you suffered. I worry about her daughter and what having a parent like that will mean for her... Sending love and best wishes for you.
What always surprises me is people thinking at some point Amber will admit what she did and admit to her lies, but that's normal people using normal logic on a very troubled person. What someone like Amber will do is double down, which she did with this interview and continue to paint herself in a certain light, which she did. People forget that for a very long time, Amber's behaviour worked for her. She could convince people she's a good person, a victim or however she likes, but at some point the very behaviour that kept her afloat is her downfall. Problem is, Amber and people like her cannot admit defeat or change. Quite often people suffering from narcissism and borderline personality disorder will commit suicide when they feel the jig is up or continue believing they will eventually win.
I was sexually abused by my father as a child and also groomed by him throughout my entire childhood and listening to Amber Heard give her testimony was extremely traumatic and distressing for me to hear. I even started having nightmares throughout the trial as it resurfaced so much pain from my childhood but this wasn't because I believed her. It's because I don't. Amber is extremely triggering to those of us who are true survivors but once justice was granted I decided that I wouldn't let her affect me like that ever again. I'm relieved I can now watch these interviews after she lost the case and no longer feel traumatised by her lies or malice. She ultimately lost and her victim became a survivor because of it.
I thought it was just me that started having nightmares from watching the trial when I thought I had long since put my abuser and the effects in my past! I'm the same now. She is just pathetic and needs to get back in touch with reality
Thank you for this video. I never thought that I could receive so much purging and closure and strength from this trial. Dr. Curry's testimony, other therapists' analysis, body language videos, behaviorists, and particularly this very video led me to realize what happened to me was not my fault. I can stop feeling as though I failed and can stop wondering how I could have persuaded them to not do what they did to me. I now know that was never going to happen. I was in the presence of a very deceptive malignant narcissist in two of my former supervisors, a pity seeking vulnerable/malignant narcissist in my sister, and a grandiose narcissist in my ex friend. I'm still not able to talk about other experiences. It was all right in front of me. I just didn't know what to look for while reflecting on everything that has happened. I feel soooo much relief and extra power. Words can't come close to describing how freeing and empowering this video was.
Here are my thoughts as a CSA victim. If, after all these years of healing and therapy, I was able to put aside my bad feelings toward my abusers and move on with my life, and one of my abusers sued me, THAT would feel like MORE abuse. Then, to top that off, if he won?? THAT would again, be even MORE abuse. It would feel like such an injustice. It would most definitely bring up all of the old feelings that I thought I dealt with. As far as I know, healing takes place in stages/levels. After many years, you, as a survivor, may think you're all healed up and you're fine, but then you get triggered and all these old feelings come back up again. It doesn't mean you never experienced any healing in the first place. It just means you need to go even deeper than you did before. If one of my abusers brought me to court and won? I would absolutely break down and may even want to off myself because of the injustice. I wouldn't be able to go on camera and tell the world that I still love my abuser and have no ill will. She is soooo not a victim, and shame on her for these webs of lies. Just my two cents...
I couldn't agree with this statement more. I was a victim of SA at a teenager. It took years for me to heal. There have since then been small things that feel like my healing has been undone and I have to go deeper to heal the deeper wounds I didn't realize were there. But something like this, I can't even express the emotions it would put me through.
Absolutely. The only good thing (if you want to call it that) is that there's absolutely no chance on this green earth of her 'offing herself'. Everyone she knows, knew or will know should hire a bodyguard though....
Very true. I was diagnosed with BPS (battered person syndrome) and AH reminds me alot of my ex and even after 6+ yrs some of what she says and specially those taps of her belittling JD trigger me. My heart rate goes through the roof I start to feel sick. I had/have a very hard time watching anything to do with her and this case.
I was told by my Dad that if you don't have something sensible to say don't say anything at all. There's also a saying that goes something like this. "Better to stay quiet and have people think you are stupid rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt"
I'm an abuse survivor, and this Amber Heard interview irritated me intensely on every level! It took me several DECADES to be able to feel or say anything charitable in regard to my abuser(s), even with my Christian faith! Also, in order to keep myself from living in the past so that my present is not ruined I have argued that I refuse to call myself a victim, but instead say that I was victimized. It was not, nor has it ever been a part of my thoughts or vernacular to think or say ANYTHING about what a "perfect victim" is. That's ridiculous and yes...insulting as Hades!! Also, she appears to consistently want to prove that she's more educated and intellectually superior to those around her; however, what she states before and after any little zingers of "I know this but I bet you don't," tend to dispel any truth in her presumptions of superiority. I'm not trying to cast aspersions here.... But ya' know. Thank you, Spidey, fit these excellent videos. And THANK YOU for being such a caring person!!
I’m a dv survivor and one of the BIGGEST signs to me that she was lying during her deposition, the trial and that interview was exactly what you said towards the end about the love she showed FOR him! Not only with her words of “I love Johnny! I loved him, I have no bad feelings or ill will towards him!” “Half of him is wonderful and beautiful…” etc but also with her facial expression’s while saying those words. NO DV survivor would EVER say/feel those things about their abuser!!! Especially when you’ve been out long enough that youre free from the Stockholm syndrome/manipulation! We feel nothing but utter disgust towards them, towards ourselves for being in that situation, for allowing it to happen for so long, for believing their manipulation and lies, for ever loving them! The thought of even giving them a loving gesture, touch, or praise grosses us out, can make us feel physically sick and uncomfortable, the thought that we even actually loved them and gave ourself to them and did/said/felt those nice things, grosses us out! Its also completely and utterly embarrassing! I actually get physically nauseous, I feel extremely embarrassed, disappointed and mad at myself, when I think back to that relationship! I feel grossed out that I even found him attractive in the first place! Like Johnny, we don’t want to be near them nor look at them! That, Amber, is why he doesn’t want to look at you! It’s not because “he’s guilty!” It’s because looking at your abuser, isn’t something that survivors want to do! We don’t want to hear them, see them, be near them… really, we don’t want to even remember their existence! Yes, it’s a late and long response but I felt/feel passionately about that trial and years later I’m still so happy Johnny won! Unlike what her and her team tried to insinuate, his win was actually a HUGE step forward for DV victims/survivors! It proves that men too can be victims but also that not every woman should be believed just because she’s a woman! Because, unfortunately, there are some sick individuals that will lie about DV for their own benefit! Whether it be for custody, publicity, sympathy, etc, it definitely happens! Aside from Amber, I’ve also seen that happen firsthand, to my cousin by his crazy ex! Yes, claims should always be heard but those claims need to be backed up with legitimate proof! And, unlike what ambers side also tried to claim that “Johnny winning shows us that DV victims will only be believed if they video tape themselves being beaten” (that one really pissed me off!!!) most of us have actual proof! From valid medical records, to messages, to police reports (sometimes from even the neighbors calling the cops) to actual witnesses… something that will actually back up what we say! Exactly like what Johnny had! REAL evidence!!! Just because she lost she immediately tried to say that the media swayed the jury which was such a bs cop out!! They weren’t swayed by the media, they were swayed by the actual evidence! Smh! I need to stop because I could write a novel about this! There’s SO many things I haven’t pointed out that I would LOVE to say but I already wrote a long comment I’m sure no one will read so…. Yea. I know this will probably go unread but man it always feels good to at least get the words out! It’s cathartic!
"I know I'm not the perfect victim" Didn't she emphatically and angrily say in the trial, "I am NOT a victim. I have NEVER. Referred to myself as a victim." I feel like the loss of the trial and the fact that all her lies were exposed has made her a real victim in her own eyes.
She and her team made up the term “perfect victim” to make excuses for her inconsistent stories that contradicted themselves. “Sure, I bought him a knife, but that’s because I’m not the average / perfect victim.” “Sure, I begged him to come back after I got the restraining order, but that’s because I’m not the perfect victim.” They use it to cover up her lies. Shameful.
It goes back to the recent past when it was automatic to talk about a woman's entire life history, right down to her choice of underwear, in lurid detail in open court when defending a man on a rape charge. I'm sure no one at the time could describe for you what a 'perfect victim' was, but they sure as hell knew an imperfect one when they saw it's red lacy knickers waved around in court.
As an ER Nurse, her testimony during the trial and this interview are totally unbelievable! I have seen some very serious injuries. One woman jumped from a moving car to escape her abuser! Terrified to be anywhere that he might get to her again, asked the cops to take her to jail so she would be safe! Amber is done, will never work in Hollywood again!
It was her descriptions of some of her supposed abuse that was what stuck out to me so much. She described abuse that would no doubt NEED medical treatment because of how bad it was. Her testimony on when she claimed to have been thrown into shattered glass from alcohol bottles, where she was slipping and sliding on glass and blood, that was so fucking absurd. There is absolutely no way she went through that and didn't seek medical attention. She could have fucking died. Being impaled by a shit ton of glass(ALCOHOL COVERED GLASS) and was stuck in her own blood, that cannot be treated on your own, she would have been at risk for severe infection and/or bled out. But she claimed to have taken two sleeping pills and fallen asleep afterwards. Doesn't describe cleaning herself, removing the glass, nothing. She has no medical records of it either. You CANNOT hide that type of damage to the human body. The scars that would be left behind would be there for years, but afterwards, she's spotted wearing revealing dresses, showing off her flawless legs, flawless back, arms, face, etc. And she's perfectly void of such injuries.
My abuse happened over 15 years ago and it still sticks with me to this day. In the way I still flinch when my husband (who has never laid a finger on me) reaches over my head to grab something from a shelf, to when I can become inconsolably upset just hearing or seeing abusive treatment on movies and tv. My abuser even passed away almost 3 years ago in a motorcycle accident and I still feel fear when I think about my past. Idc how much time will pass, I know I will never be the same because of it and that is something I will never be able to forgive him for. For the longest time I blamed myself for “allowing” myself to be in that position and most of my anger was toward myself and I put a lot of the blame on me, sometimes I still do. It has taken me many many years to understand that it wasn’t my fault and I didn’t deserve it. No one does. There is no doubt in my mind that AH does not truly believe she is a victim.
At one point she talks about this experience as being "the most humiliating and horrible thing I've ever been through..", adding, "I felt less than human." That really stood out to me since she wasn't referring to the abuse, but rather the backlash from the public. I would love to hear your opinion on the significance of this statement as I haven't heard anyone else bring this up. 🙏
“Did they lie in court?” “I’m not here to call names” Another deflection. She doesn’t want to answer the question, so she turns the action of telling a lie into a calling someone a liar.
@@KactusKM the juror's names are protected, not the witnesses. We already know all the witnesses' names. They were referring to the witnesses in that question
That point when she aligned herself with the interviewer rather than those who’ve been abused was really discordant for me before I watched any analysis & I’m lucky enough to have never experienced abuse. I feel extremely sorry for survivors who have this woman exploiting their suffering for her own agenda
We must remember the true intent of the narcissist… Their sole purpose of doing any and everything is motivated by self serving results. This is an obvious and consistent facet in her exchanges-with little or no mention ever in gratitude, of what others have done for her. She maintains and demands all attention (good and bad) remains on her. If I only has a dollar for every time she says “I, me…”
Actually it's a fact that she experienced childhood abuse. However her self conception is as a non victim. So this is why she cannot place herself in this category with "weak" people even though she experienced this fear and terror as a child. Jm2c about that slip. It's "her truth", as she might put it.
Yes! As a domestic violence survivor, the statement she made post verdict made my blood boil. The part when she tried to associate herself to one of us given that she’s a perpetrator of abuse angers me. And she claimed that the verdict set us back as a society, I think it has shown how much we have progressed as a civilization. Now we know we should not only listen to the loudest cries in the room, but also to the silent suffers. Now we are ready to accept that anyone can be a victim no matter how seemingly unlikely they look. Now we are finally allowing victims to speak their truths.
That was such a remarkable and profound slip! I loved it!! I actually think having a global example of an (Cluster B Personality Disorder) abuser will ultimately be helpful in describing the undescrible to people who just cannot understand otherwise. She will be studied in psychology for decades to come. That infamy is the only fame she deserves.
@@user-ui2db4nc8r Unfortunately…if she is aware of that…she will relish in it. In the narc’s mind, all attention equates to the fueling source of being kept center stage. They are masters at manipulating negative attention, opposing behaviors, etc…and love having that control over the thoughts and emotions of others😑
I am a survivor of DV and SV, and a psychologist, and I will say this in reference to her saying she still loves him: In her case, for starters, I think the narcissism is so great, that she doesn't necessarily understand love in the same way we do. Its likely that to her, being "in love" is akin to what someone w/o her issues would experience as "enjoying having possession of". She probably loves Johnny the same way I love my Benz; in that I enjoy a number of things about it, but as vapid as it sounds, you enjoy the status of it etc. (Everyone w/ any manner of nice vehicle feels that way at least once or twice, I'm not a monster, its normal.) He is a big celebrity, wanted by many as evidenced by the herd of women outside the courthouse, etc etc. She probably would still "enjoy possessing" him in that way, and to her, thats love, bc she is likely unable to truly comprehend empathy, vulnerability, and other emotions necessary to love someone. That said, from the survivor aspect, it would not be too terribly strange for someone to still love someone who perpetuated DV against them, for some of the same reasons they were still able to love them and desire being w/ them during the DV. There are entire books on the multitude of ways they manipulate your feelings and get in your head, and its not uncommon for those to linger. Its even *possible* when there is SV... That said, in the case of SV, to feel that way would typically require there to have been serious, SERIOUS emotional/personality issues in the victim prior to the SV occurring, causing that person to deal w/ the trauma by maintaining affection for the perpetrator. It is infinitely less likely that someone would claim to still love someone after instances of SV, and it goes to show just how image focused and truly shallow she is, as she clearly can't empathize w/ real victims enough to understand the flaw in her words; in my humble opinion she can't seem to empathize beyond how she might be coming off in any given moment. Her ability to view situations as a whole or to act on much more than impulse is severely debilitated, from her childhood abuse most likely. Her father ran dog fighting rings -- thats sociopath behavior. She likely truly did have a very tough childhood, which is almost always the cause of this type of abhorrent behavior in adulthood. (I'm sure you're aware of this lol, I'm saying it to everyone else!)
I didn't find her comment that she still loves his that terribly far fetched either. I used to work in DV and Rape Crisis Advocacy and while it's been number of years, I do recall a statistic a long the lines of victims will leave and return to their abuser up to EIGHT times before the leave for good. There are a multitude of factors that play into that, including the manipulation of feelings to which you refer, economics, children, pets, but also love. Those looking from the outside might not be able to understand how it can be love, but that's part the manipulation and isolation victims experience. So for a victim to say they still love their abuser for a while is not uncommon. Now, do I believe Amber is one of these such victims... nope. Victims' abuse is their most humiliating experience ever. Nothing will ever compare. And, victims don't give their abuser weapons as gifts. Ever. They just don't.
The "perfect victim" line shows clearly that "victim" is just a role description for her, a tool she tries to wield for sympathy and in order to wield power. This is disgusting. My blood boils, and i am not even a victim
I'm not a victim of DV, but I am a victim of rape and honestly, no words on this planet can describe my rage towards her. There's just so much wrong with her, so much that not even 100,000 videos of amber analysis could even touch the surface of. Simultaneously, my heart also breaks for Johnny and for all the real "perfect victims" out there who are having to deal with all their own struggles resurfacing due to her actions.
I can actually understad this statement in the context of defending oneself in the court of public opinion or also in a legal court. If she feels constantly judged, she feels like she cant convince people she is a victim based on whether people like her or her own actions that make her unlikeable or harder to believe. I think she is acknowledging she is not a completely innocent victim, she did provocative and irresponsible things. I AM a victin of DV but if I ever had to go to court, I would also acknowledge that I was not completely innocent. Secondly, I am SURE that her lawyers and PR people made it clear that she was not the "perfect" victim and they would have a harder time defending her based on some of her poor choices.
@@vanessaking8220 THIS! Thank u. I tried saying this in another video thread but got accused of being an Amber fan… But that’s not the case at all & what many ppl don’t know is that the word "perfect victim" is valid vocab and often used in many DV cases where the "victim" (the word victim isn’t used to describe oneself is a victim obv but unfortunately it’s part of the terminology & may be taken out of context by ppl not familiar with DV terms) ALSO abused the aggressor at some point during the relationship-usually bc they get fed up and retaliated NOT bc they are narcissists… All in all I think Amber herself set many dv survivors back bc now whenever a dv survivor uses the term "perfect victim" the masses will immediately associate that valid term with Amber and maybe even invalidate their experience, I mean if someone uses the same terms Amber does then clearly they are the narcissistic abuser & obviously they were inspired by her, right? …Wrong. Most ppl won’t know this tho. Ugh. Thanks for nothing Amber🤦🏻♀️she’s the reason why we can’t have nice things
That part where she says she's not a 'perfect victim' reminded me of when she lashed out at Camille and said 'I have never called myself a victim, nor would I'
I’m also a survivor who had to hide from my abuser. This was over 11 years ago and I’m still afraid, my heart raise to the roof every time I see someone who looks just like him. It didn’t take long to feel the hatred after I successfully freed myself. I can’t believe that ANYONE feels any kind of love for someone who has hurt them that much so that she tried to get a restraining order against her abuser?! That for me is a big lie, even if it’s an attempt to gain sympathy from others by showing that she’s the bigger person… I don’t know?
I think Amber was trying to ride the coattails of the "me, too" movement by lying and trying to decieve the public into believing her lies and gaining herself some more popularity and intrest in her career. It didn't work!!! Thank God!!!!!!!!
Savanna’s face this whole time is like “I hate my life, this woman is awful, this was a mistake”. It was interesting watching her face progress from somewhat neutral to a more clenched lower face as AH keeps lying and lying. Its probably even more irritating for Savanna since she’s a lawyer and can definitely see all the signs of AH lying and dodging her questions. It started to feel like a interrogation which is nice
@@jensenchavez265 But still, takes no accountability for anything and expects us all to believe her lies after we've all heard enough of them? What a piece of work!
I 100 percent guarantee you she doesn't hate her life. Don't project your self lol This interview will benefit the interviewer what are you talking about??? You clearly dont know about an opportunity like this is ... she don't hate her life. She took an opportunity d.a.
The "perfect victim" is the role she was and still is trying to play. And she's sad and angry that people didn't appreciate her efforts. There are many lines that she borrowed almost word by word from actually victims on trials. Which is beyond horrible.
Exactly or she gets upset when it gets recognized and she gets called out for it.. How sick do you have to be to mimic someone else horrific DV/SA Story..
As a DV/SA survivor I just want to say THANK YOU 😊 Hearing her comments about the “perfect victim” or being a “good victim” made my blood boil. I read that as she is trying to present herself as the victim and trying to be “perfect” based on what she thinks a victim looks like. But none of us look the same or cope the same or have the same triggers. Thank you for making true victims feels seen regardless of what type of victim they are. I have cried, laughed, and screamed through my past traumas, and your passionate response to her words made me feel seen and validated. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion with all of us through this, and your compassion with discussing these topics means the world. ❤️
does having an affair make you imperfect victim? I don't think so. except the abuser(even before that affair), everyone would think that's fine. How about this? Imagine Rock and Batista are married and they physically abuse each other. one of them wins most of the time, let's say Rock wins. Who is the victim here? or imperfect victim
@@ischkumar424 I don’t think a perfect victim exists. I believe we are all out here doing our best to heal and move beyond what happened to us. As someone who was in an abusive marriage, there are no winners in the fights. If the abusive is mutual, it’s difficult to say whose worst. Do we base it on who started the abuse or on who inflicted the most pain? There’s no winners and no perfect victims. Just people who manage to survive it and overcome it.
@@ischkumar424 that’s not for me to answer. Abuse comes in countless forms and it’s not my place to speak figuratively about someone else’s relationship.
I am an abuse survivor. Everything she said made me angry and upset. I truly feel in my heart that she is the biggest and worst liar. She wanted to join the conversation of the me too movement, not "lend her voice"... but to be included for notoriety. Perhaps, moreover, to be close to that side instead of the opposite one that she should have been on, like a murderer trying to help find the missing person he or she kidnapped and killed. I guess it's possible to have loved the abuser, but to love him or her in present day and not wish any "ill will" towards them is a bit extreme- I feel it's another moment where she tried to paint herself in a positive light, as this all forgiving soul. That's just not real. Again, she's trying to take advantage of her viewers. I appreciated the warning before her perfect victim comment. I wonder what a perfect victim looks like. What an awful thing to say. As a survivor, she is insinuating that I should look and act a certain way. Why? Very weird thing to say. The only thing that does make sense about that, is what you said in your video. Because she has an idea in her head of what a victim is "supposed to be" and she is trying to exemplify that. Shame on her. Also, I know it's not discussed in this interview, but the recording where she said over and over "go ahead, tell the world you're an abused man", insinuating that no one would ever believe him, is so telling. Something similar was said to me as a child throughout years of abuse, by my abuser. She is the abuser and I'm glad she has been exposed as such. Johnny is the survivor and I'm so happy he prevailed.
Having had a sadistic narcissistic mother and a borderline sister, I feel enormous anger when I see and hear this interview with A. Heard. This woman would push a saint to the limit and I am full of admiration for J.Depp who, of course, sometimes made derogatory remarks but managed to keep his control and not get into the physical violence that it activated and provoked. This woman is just a monster for me, who deserves what she fears the most: indifference and exclusion.
The fact that he never got physical with her speaks to his character. I would never condone physical violence but everybody has their breaking point and Amber tried her hardest to push him to that point many times.
Liliane, I’m so sorry that you had to experience that. Those are painful relationships to navigate/survive. In my experience: It’s the goal of someone struggling with a cluster B disorder to trigger you when they feel out of control themselves. It provides them that sense of control. If you don’t react, they up the ante, until they eventually “get you”. Then they often to flip it around.. “Look at you! You’re so crazy/angry/emotional!” It’s also almost like they are trying to turn you into an abuser to satisfy their victimhood. Reactive abuse is quite common in these relationships, and what I believe was happening in their’s.
I had a friend with BPD and Amber's behaviours are like deja vu. I never really considered that a man could suffer domestic abuse at the hands of a woman until I met this friend. In the time I knew her she had a couple of different boyfriends. She tended to attract (or seek) men who were dependent on her, then she would abuse them enough to drive them away, and later (sometimes on the same day) find some excuse to drag them back (for example, 'I'm having an asthma attack and I think I left my inhaler in your car', or 'I fell down the stairs, I need to go to hospital' or 'I'm pregnant with your twins and I think I'm having a miscarriage') and get her hooks in them again. I often tried to act as a buffer, thinking one day she would either do some real damage to one of the guys, or get them so wound up that they seriously hurt her. I'd tell the guys 'Don't go back there, you know what will happen. I'll sort out whatever she needs.' But they always went back. I knew she was a compulsive liar, because I so often caught the inconsistencies in her stories and I would call her out on them. She would deflect, just as Amber does. And when things got violent and the police got involved, they always favoured her version of events, no matter how far fetched. It infuriates me that someone thinks they can (and frequently do) get away with damaging another person like that. Not to mention misrepresenting people who are actually in danger because of or traumatised by abuse. They deserve an honest voice.
When I was very little 5-8 years old, I was SA and physically abused by my real father. Before I told my Momma, my parents got divorced. But, just hearing his voice over the phone, or smelling something that reminded me of him, had me freaking out! I felt as though my body was a shell and the real me was inside screaming and trying to run away, flee, fly, go anywhere from where I was! Granted my Mom had no clue, yet, but even the smell of certain items that were in my parents room had me wanting to crawl out of my skin....I'm 40 year's old now, and I still can't handle those same items! My Mom is such an amazing human being, she taught me the importance of forgiving...forgiving but never forgetting and to not allow someone else's actions define who I am, instead define who I am because of what happened (hope that makes sense). I learned to take his power for what he did to me and turn it around for myself! Many, many, years later I forgave my father for what he did, ONLY because I had to learn to move on with my life! Years and therapies later, he is not the same person he was when these things were happening. But I'll NEVER forget what he had done to me! Nor will I ever trust him again, and I now have two daughter's and he'll never be alone with either of them. Over my dead body!! Hearing AH's last comment about her love for Johnny, it feels obsessive, creepy, manipulative, and not something that a individual who has gone through the amount of violence they claim to have, would say about their aggressor. It just doesn't make any sense. PS - To all the survivors, family of survivors, and even to families of the aggressors (because you need support too!!) that commented on here, I am so sorry that you went through what you went through. It's heart breaking that there are individuals in this world that could actually inflict this kind of harm on anyone!! Doesn't matter why they did it, but just know, you all are never alone
She said in trial that she “NEVER CALLED HERSELF A VICTIM” yet in her interview she states she is “not the perfect victim”. Did anyone else catch this?
She contradicts herself all the time! In her testimony she same the op-Ed was about Johnny…. But the interview it’s not. She says she’s not a victim but then talks about how she’s not the perfect victim…. Yes in trial she she I never want to be seen as a victim. She doesn’t know if she’s coming or going. Inconsistent, lying on lies. Not a good look. And I believe this interview made it all worse.
A Victim is a Victim. And knows how it feels and how to share her experience. A Victim doesn’t reach for understanding. Thank you for your video, analysing AH’s declarations and body language 🌿
I'm a survivor of SA. I watched the entire trial. I would never say that I still love my abuser. Never. The abuse that she alleged happened to her is severe. It's awful. Putting evidence, or lack thereof aside, I noticed so many inconsistencies and behaviors that make no sense to me. She asserted authority over him on the stand. She said "he can't even look at me" as she stared at him from above. We heard several audio tapes of her taunting him. I can't imagine ever being able to do that to my abuser. When I think of what happened to me, and worse, when I've run into him a few times over the years (small town), I get immediately sick to my stomach, it's hard to breathe, and my CPTSD brain goes black. My body wants to run as far away from him as possible. I go through great lengths to avoid him. Always. Would I love to say that I could stand up to him? Sure. Has that ever been something in the realm of possibilities? Never. On the other hand, what Johnny explained on the stand is something that aligns with my experience as a survivor of childhood A. He talks about having to placate her, pacify her, and leave or hide when it gets bad. We hear audio tapes of that, as well. As a victim, in my experience, you never want to anger the person consistently causing you harm over a long period of time. You will do anything to appease them and diffuse the threat. You retreat. The inconsistencies with her testimony where she didn't take accountability for even the smallest accusations are maddening. She also ended up admitting, multiple times on the stand, that she wrote the op-ed about him! Now she's walking that back. Savannah Guthrie is right. Accountability and believability is so important in cases involving SA.I'm a survivor of SA. I watched the entire trial. I would never say that I still love my abuser. Never. The abuse that she alleged happened to her is severe. Putting evidence or lack thereof side, I noticed so many inconsistencies and behaviors that make no sense to me. She asserted authority over him on the stand. She said "he can't even look at me" as she stared at him from above. We heard several audio tapes of her taunting him. I can't imagine ever being able to do that to my abuser. When I think of what happened to me, and worse, when I've run into him a few times over the years (small town), I get immediately sick to my stomach, it's hard to breathe, and my CPTSD brain goes black. My body wants to run as far away from him as possible. go through great lengths to avoid him. Always. Would I love to say that I could stand up to him? Sure. Has that ever been something in the realm of possibilities? Never. On the other hand, what Johnny explained on the stand is something that aligns with my experience as a survivor of childhood A. He talks about having to placate her, pacify her, and leave or hide when it gets bad. We hear audio tapes of that, as well. As a victim, in my experience, you never want to anger the person consistently causing you harm over a long period of time. You will do anything to appease them and diffuse the threat. You retreat. The inconsistencies with her testimony where she didn't take accountability for even the smallest accusations are maddening. She also ended up admitting, multiple times on the stand, that she wrote the op-ed about him! Now she's walking that back. Savannah Guthrie is right. Accountability and believability is so important in cases involving SA. It's often the only thing that we have after so many years. If you are constantly contradicting yourself, not taking accountability for the things that have been proven you have said and done, and adding in extra details, your credibility is gone. People with CPTSD and PTSD do often forget details, and get things out of order because our brains have tried to save us from reliving that trauma. Even if you were able to fight back, all you need to do is tell the truth. With Amber, it's impossible to find the truth. As always, thank you Spidey! 🖤
I am so glad you pointed out how huge the slip up was regarding the "like you and I" statement. It was driving me crazy that other channels seemed to not catch that or didn't realize just how profound the statement was. I'm a huge fan of your work. You never disappoint when you do a breakdown of someone. ✌️ 👱♀️❤️
Ok, so I haven’t gotten to that point in the video yet but, YESSS. That “you or I” thing really jumped out dramatically at me and I couldn’t believe it wasn’t discussed. It couldn’t be clearer that she did NOT experience what she was claiming to have experienced.
Trigger Warning: When i heard her say "i'm sorry i'm not a perfect victim" i felt my blood instantly boil. I've been abused throughout my entire childhood and the only people i've ever heard someone say anything similar to that was just one of my abusers telling me that because i didn't act the way they wanted or expected me to do, that i am not allowed to say or claim, even in diary, that i am hurt. Only later for that abuser to claim that they were the victim because i didn't act, react or do as they wanted and expected me to do. They claimed victimhood because that would discredit my pain i was so desperate for someone to see, help and understand as "being manipulative" and that's what that phrase tells me, "I'm sorry when i tried to claim to be the victim, i did it wrong and couldn't decieve you all again as well as i have before." After a comment like that, i don't believe that she should get an appeal. Like he said, she's clearly watched stuff online and i know in my gut that she's just learning what she did wrong and trying to learn to lie better and i don't want to see her reclaim the ego and self-proclaimed "power" she thought she had when everyone belived her.
If you haven't seen it yet, some reading on the concept of DARVO might be healing for you. Abuser's mind games are so sick, but I believe naming their tactics takes away some of their power. Wishing you love and light!
One of the things that came out of the trial that convinced me Amber was the abuser is when she told JD in that audio recording that he wasn't hurt. (after she punched him, or hit him) The argument over semantics was ridiculous. I hope you have been able to find your path back to you after all you have been through.
Yeah all of her recordings vs his recorders she acts drastically different. Hers portrays herself as a caring loving do no harm victim while his shows her true evil side. That’s such a big tell. If she was truly abused in the way she claims she was, his recordings of her would not have her talking to him the way she does.
As an abuse survivor, this literally makes me nauseous! There are no “good or perfect” victims! She wants so bad to be seen as a victim but doesn’t want to be labeled as a victim. She makes absolutely no sense! Why would she need to lend her voice to a cultural conversation that she shouldn’t be part of? She seems so happy with herself. She likes to say that the OP-EP wasn’t about her and Johnnys relationship but she’s smirking the whole time. She just infuriates me! I would never say that I love, have no ill will or resentment towards my abuser! I despise him!
That wording bothered me too. I'd never say I "lend" my voice to something that I AM A PART OF. I lend my voice to my friends who are minorities to help them get heard - I'm not one, so I'm lending my voice to them, to their causes. I don't lend my voice to being a woman, or a mother, or a dog owner - I am all of those things. It's such a weird way to say it, lending her voice to a conversation.....because she wasn't actually a part of it?
First she wasn't a victim, now she wasn't a perfect victim. Makes people who are victims feel belittled and used for the clout of a woman looking for something to cling to so she can be known as THAT person.
I have a theory about the op-ed and who it was about IF (heavy emphasis here) it was not about Johnny. But spidey has mentioned her “duping delight” face before. So, playing the devils advocate for a moment. What if the op-Ed was actually about a rich and powerful “secret” lover. But she is just letting everyone think it’s about Johnny, while in fact it was directed to someone else. Just not correcting anyone because it would be worse. That would cause some duping delight.
I'm also an abuse survivor and the part that actually caused the issues for me, was how she described her apparent abuser, I have 100% moved on and forward, but when I speak about my past abuse, even though its just a story now, my face is riddled with disgust and I do blame him, I'm just not angry about it anymore. I've just never spoken to someone in my life that has behaved this way towards a previous abuser.
When she says "you and I" to Savannah, I believe it's because her status and being above the "average person" is more important to her than being consistent with her abuse narrative. Shes a narc. Given the chance to push out superiority or the "truth", someone like her will pick superiority every single time.
As a survivor of emotional and psychological abuse, I have never once said I loved my ex or missed him. It’s soo extremely weird and uncomfortable that she says that. Usually abusers will say that about the person they abused while also trying to save face and say how much better they are without them.
Spidey, I appreciate so much your breakdown of this interview. First, thank you for helping me think better of Savannah Guthrie. I was very irritated with her interview style because I felt like she was going too easy on Amber supporting her victim stance. But it helps to realize that she was trying to establish a rapport to get Amber to talk and to not make her shut down. And secondly, I really appreciate your comment about actors not always acting. Because I get so tired of that comment by people saying 'Well, he's an actor', as though that's all he is, that's all he does, and he's not actually a human first. Why is it that people think actors act 24 hours a day, every day? They don't, it's their job. And I've seen enough interviews of Johnny Depp to realize that no, he was not acting on the stand. He got into a little bit into character when he was under cross exam, but I think that he kind of had to in order to deal with Rottenborn's aggression. Anyway, thank you for your analysis of these interviews and all your other videos. 😁
I completely agree with your comment on actors and have said this before “they’ve been actors for a few decades, we’ve been human for hundreds of thousands of years” that wins lol.
@@TheBehavioralArts I believe I had trauma bonding with my ex abusive husband, I still loved him very much so, even after everything, but it's obvious this is not Amber Heard's case.
I thought the same thing about Johnny. That he was himself on the stand. You could also tell when it became too much and he would slide into one of his characters for a moment to give a quick funny answer so he could move on. She does not behave (it is not an 'act' Amber) like a person who has gone through abuse. She behaved like an abuser. Unrepentant and never wrong. It is you. If she could just find the right words, she could make you see that she is right and you are misguided, or wrong, or not remembering it correctly. There will always be people who believe the abuser. Even when they admit it. Anyway, that is all I am going to say about that. During the trial I really felt like she must be scanning social media (or her minions were) and using the information she found to "tweak" her 'victim of abuse' character. Now she is doing the same. Find out what everyone is saying and then you can figure out how you need to act to get them to believe you. I think she has done it most of her life, and doesn't understand why it doesn't work anymore. She is running on fear and anger. She is just going to keep this up until they don't give her the time of day anymore. All this is just the press junket for her latest show.
The same idea of actors not always acting also applies to teachers. I used to work with preschoolers and I can be incredibly patient at work, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t get impatient with people when I’m at home.
He was her husband.She said he Wes a character.He is a man.S H e sh I we'd him no respect.Laughing about 21Jump Street.He was working making over 4 th I usand dollars a week
I'm a survivor. This interview had me yelling at the walls in frustration. Putting myself in her shoes after she described her alleged abuse at the hands if her husband and then hear her say she still loves him and hold no ill will? No...sorry... that is not how it works. She really must believe that the general public is stupid to think we would believe this tripe.
I am also a survivor. Also do not believe really anything she says but I was in a very emotionally and physically abusive relationship with my ex husband for 7 years and I can still say I have love for him. I dislike (almost hate) the type of person he is but I still have love for him for some reason. We’ve been separated since 2014. He is a horrible father and partner but he was my first real boyfriend and for a long time he was my only friend (he made sure of that). He was the type that when things were good they were really good. He made me feel like the most special person in the world. But when they were bad they were really bad. And of course there were more bad times than good.
I’m a survivor of DV. Amber saying “I love him.”, “I have no ill will towards him”, “I wish him the best”….her “text bombing” him to seek forgiveness and approval when he wasn’t answering her after a fight, her freaking out and arguing with him in the driveway for over an hour to keep him from walking inside to see his daughter, her frequent freaking out fits about him walking away to get some space in the middle of an argument, her inability to understand how to realistically ACT like a victim….and for her I do believe it is acting, but the fact that she got it so completely wrong, and the weeping/begging him to answer if he still loved her and if he would ever want to “be with her again”….the begging through tears to “just hug me,” “just hold me” after she filed for divorce and the TRO…. Those are not things I’ve ever done or seen any other DV survivors do….. but I sure have experienced my abuser doing them and I’ve witnessed other abusers doing them. And her little contemptuous half snarl?…. It seems like she only gets that when she’s talking about either Johnny, Camille, his witnesses and most especially the jurors.
Spot on! Her desperate attempts to get back in control when he 'walks away' is an abusers typical behaviour. Weeping to get you back, and so on. So well said by you.
I'm a long time DV survivor! I'm sorry, but, I was anxious watching her testimony to where I had to quit watching the whole thing. I would squirm, clench my fists until they hurt and at night found myself tossing and turning thinking how mad I was over the whole thing. She made being a survivor a joke! When she was on that stand after taking taking an oath of truth all she kept doing was lie. Her lack of tears said it all. She acted her last, she had an audience and put it on BIG time! My heart hurt for all the survivors watching this crap.
I was the same, as a DV survivor, Amber triggered me so horribly. She is SUCH A LIAR! I just want her in jail, not only for the abuse she perpetuated on Mr Depp but also for the DAMAGE she has done to survivors 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Just LEAVE the world alone Amber, give your daughter to her father to raise and crawl back under a rock where you belong!
I’m so sorry dear that all this has brought so much pain to you! It’s awful that she keeps doing this in the name of “fellow DV survivors” I wish she had followed through with her original plan to just spend time with her daughter but as we know how narcissistic people work she needs to keep the attention on her and her pain relevant regardless of how many others she is hurting in the process. Try keep your head up and know you have people who love you!
I am so sorry to you and all survivors of abuse, I can't imagine how angry and triggered I would be😔 she has hurt all legitimate survivors with her performance on the stand. The sad part is, she really thinks she's a victim and will stand behind her story till she's in the ground!
Yes, thank you! I thought I was the only one who had trouble getting to sleep at night after listening to her during the trial. She wouldn't even be able to portray a victim in a movie because her acting is so forced and contrived. I just pray that she'll go away soon so we don't have to look at her or hear her voice anymore!
@@irenaschulz2286 I totally agree. I'm tired of seeing youtubers cover her and the news, don't get me started on them. You don't see Johnny doing interviews. Here's to many sleep filled nights! 😴
When Amber changed the locks on the penthouse then had James Franco over, I knew she’d never been abused. No abuse victim would attempt that! I’m still scared to death of my ex, who was physically abusive. I moved over 20 years ago to another city, across the country, and for years had unlisted address / phone number so that he had no clue where I was. Abuse victims will leave with NOTHING and not care as long as they can get away. You can tell Amber isn’t afraid of JD. In the last tape of them together, she’s saying she wants a hug from him! She still wanted to stay in his penthouse! She’s not afraid of being around him.
No shit… Did you see how she was staring him down throughout the trail, snoring and smirking almost every time the cameras on her except when she was on the stand! Sickening. Anyone who has been abused knows very well these tactics and move the only abusers do.
THANK YOU for this! As an abuse survivor, the whole trial was upsetting & triggering for me but I couldn't stop watching it. She made me so upset that even my therapist told me to stop. "No ill will or hard feelings"?!? After 20 yrs., I'm STILL angry at my ex. The fact that he got away with it & is living a happy life while I'm still in physical pain makes me hate him even more!
As an abuser survivor myself. Forgiveness is a wonderful thing. I had to forgive myself and my abusers. I gave it to God .. I have been able to go on. It's not easy. But it is freeing.
@@reneeg4817 beautiful and true. The only way to find freedom is forgiveness. They still have to face their maker one day wether or not we forgive. But if we forgive we can live in freedom from the burden ❤️
@@reneeg4817 I'm glad you could forgive for yourself. I've been able to do the same though it's an ongoing process as much has come up with my toxic family recently. The work is worth it. 💕
I was in a very toxic and mentally abusive “relationship” (I say relationship in quotes bc we were never official) so her saying “I loved him” and changing it to “I love him” was not only inconsistent, it made no sense! When I ended the situation I had a long road of healing and I still am! The fact that she thinks it’s ok to say things like “I’m not the perfect victim” is not only insulting it’s ridiculous! When I ended the situation, I was angry and felt humiliated that I could fall for some trap!
I am a DV survivor. I left him 6 years ago but I was in the relationship for 4 years. When I first left him I still thought I loved him. After a few years, I found my self worth again and realized I couldn’t truly love someone that could hurt me so viciously. So her saying she still “loves” him doesn’t make sense after all these years. My ex had just broke me. He gaslighted me into believing many things. I had no interest in watching the trial, but what caught my attention was seeing a clip on TikTok and AHs behavior didn’t make any sense. I knew almost immediately that her behavior was not conducive to someone that had been horribly abused for years. When she couldn’t figure out a timeline of events, I knew something was off. And I do realize that some people forget moments during a traumatic event, however, if you remember some you most likely remember all. I can tell you every thought, smell, and noise during the abusive outbursts. During those moments, you are in fight or flight mode. When you are trying to survive everything is heightened. Your survival instincts seem to take over. So when she couldn’t tell the jury this happened, then this happened, I knew something was off. Also, if she still loves him and wishing no will ill on him, then why did she “act” so frightened to walk past him when she was walking off the stand? Her behavior and words are all over the place and nothing is consistent.
Very nicely said
Sorry you dealt with DV but glad you’re out now.
Very good points, thanks for your insight. Sorry to be the English police but where you said "conducive to" the correct words would be "consistent with". Conducive implies causality whereas consistent implies correlation. Not trying to be nitpicky, just trying to help.
I appreciate that you're going off your personal experience but you can't extrapolate that to be the same for everyone. Its very common for people to only remember snapshots or specific parts of an event. It is also quite common to continue loving people who abused you and many abuse survivors struggle with the push and pull of loving someone they have to stay away from for their own safety.
That’s so true! So glad you got out of that horrendous relationship 🙏🏻
This is what Johnny meant by " global humiliation"not that he was going to orchestrate something, that her own behavior would sink her
Yes and she just humiliates herself by pretending she didn’t understand that.
I agree! That's how I saw it.
Yea not to mention the fact that she pooped on d bed. Ewe.
So Tobey Maguire cant shoot spiderweb? Emotional damage right here!
How true
The fact that she says this trial it's the worst thing that ever happened to her, proves Johnny didn't put her trough years of abuse because that would be a way worse experience.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Totally agree with this
Exactly! I’m a DV survivor and I can’t even imagine comparing that. Like… the abuse I experienced wasn’t as severe as her claimed abuse and I still recoil every single time I think about it.
I don't completely agree, although I don't think Johnny D. abused her, if you went through years of abuse and then people didn't believe you and the whole world agreed that that didn't happen to you it would add to the pain of the abuse making it worse
Good point!
"Camille : Have you donated the $7 million divorce settlement?
Amber : Yes
Camille : No you haven't
Amber : I use yes and no synonymously."
Perfect summation
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Exactly!!!! She also uses truth and lies synonymously!
Bahahaha! Perfect!
The UK judge believed she donated the 7 million. Reason why he believed she didn't wrongly accuse Johnny.
Nobody in a violent abusive relationship would provoke their partner like Amber did. She wasn't frightened by him at all. She has no idea what walking on eggshells means.
True victims of domestic abuse don't antagonize their abusers.
She does know what walking on eggshells is, because she is usually the offender causing others to walk on eggshells…
Exactly my thoughts
@@NoOne-bp2jwhonestly you dont know wtf youre talking about either
@@user-ji8ll1qn6o I wish that were true
Justice does not require a “perfect victim” it just needs a truthful one.
Or a victim.
that is so F*ing infuriating to DV survivor like me - i never reported my abuser but i have some awesome friends support and i had counseling and that's how i was able to walkway - i was 19 i made a choice not to purse it through court but it was a choice because i had so much support that i knew i can come out it ok, but it wasn't because i though i wasn't a "perfect victim" - anyone who would say that is because the truth is not on their side
@@betitimas4725 💯. She’s stepping on the backs of real survivors to try and push her narrative. I’m so glad you had the support you needed to get out. ♥️♥️
The way she keeps saying we are just gullible bc we like a man’s movies. How many other men in the me too movement did we stand with??? That one triggers me.
Like we would support him regardless. Ugh
Exposed herself, this is admission that she was trying to play "The perfect victim".
As a dv/sa survivor, just these snippets of her interview makes me sick! I’ve been states away from my abuser for almost 7 years and I’m just as terrified of him as the day I left. I’d never say “I still love him” nor would I ever apologize for what I was put through. Amber needs to go touch grass and then get some help!
Its been over 20 years since I moved state...It doesn't get "better"....
My heart goes out to you
@@victoriawilliams2786 Pains me to hear this. Hope you find comfort in those tough moments.
Ah needs to go through a gang violation of 20 or more on each side of her to get beat down to really know what hurt is all about. She's hurt to many people and got away with it for to long.
@no time left stop posting fake rando videos
If she thought this interview was damage control she was wrong. She’s only making it worse. She really just needs to stop.
You mean she needs to continue lol
It is entertaining as ✂️ ✂️ ✂️
She can't stop. Her brain is far too hardwired to expect people to believe her lies. Every experience in her life to this point has proven that to her. She will never allow herself to believe that is no longer true. She will forever search for the correct words to throw together which will eventually make her lies believable.
The courts have set a stop to her...there's no other way she's going to stop
That's the problem now isn't it? She has gone out of her way to claim he was abuser. And blind media has supported her regardless of the truth otherwise. She has been supported and believed even when she lost. So she would not stop. If there were enough people who called her out like media or Hollywood celebs on this, she would have probably not tried to be everywhere giving interviews.
I was a victim of domestic violence: my ex wife has borderline personality disorder and many of the things Amber said in the taped conversations and the way she said them ran chills down my spine. They were very much alike.
Bless ur heart!!
I agree, my little sister has BPD also. It has been eerily similar, Amber and her.
I really wish you well and am glad you found your way out of this relationship. I personally (as a woman with some psychologically issues) think men are too rarely heard on this matter.
Exactly how I felt when listening to the recordings mate
Happy you're out of it
@@MarcylalaI have my sister, who has BPD too, I guess, and this is how she speaks like Amber, and sadly, my sister is a liar and loves to make up stories to make herself look like a victim all the time. He even thrashed her ex-husband because she is very agile and physically strong. When my parents asked her why she did this, she cried, explaining that she had just defended herself and that she was being treated poorly by her husband. But she told a different story to me, and she was laughing while doing so, and she found it very funny that she beat her husband and pushed him down the staircase. Although I love my sister since we are close friends most of the time, I'm saying this because it's horrifying seeing her through Amber. As children, I recall her casually blackmailing me and our younger brother by telling our parents dirty little secrets like having a porn magazine if we didn't give her what she wanted as payment for upsetting her.
As an abusive survivor, this all upsets me!
When I was 14 (I’m now 32) I was physically, mentally, & sexually abused by my 18 year old “boyfriend” until the age of 16. Everything AH has said from trial to interviews has offended me. My perception is that she tried to envision what a suspenseful movie about an abuse survivor would look like… then she built a character for court that suffered some of the worst pains imaginable. And finally at the end of the movie the survivor forgives & loves the abuser in the most dramatic format.
I would never express love for the person who abused me… he robbed me of so much in my youth & enjoyed every moment. AH has created a character in which the most traumatic experiences were endured & now she intends to perpetuate her role as “the wronged victim”… it hearts my heart & turns my stomach!
Thank you for sharing your story with us ❤️. Looks to me from your profile pic that you’ve left that frog in the past and found your prince. I wish you all the happiness in the world.
So sorry for your experiences and your pain
She is a malignant narcissist and this is the type of toxic and abusive behavior (just as you described) and is something you can count on from them. For example, she has no empathy so she has to create it by mimicking empathy in these scenes from "her" made-up movie. They do not respect authority or the law either. If they are proven wrong they will keep poking the bear no matter what. It's hard to get them to stop. Johnny shouldn't take the bate though. This is very triggering and I wonder if for him as well -- Cptsd can come from narcissistic abuse which is something I went through. The majority of the public already believes him. Pretty soon the MSM won't be interested and hopefully, they will move on to something else.
I can relate to your comment so much... sending love and light❤️
@@TheBehavioralArts … Thank you so much & yes, I have an amazing husband & 3 beautiful daughters & now have the ability to live in peace! Keep up your amazing work here💕
You got me choked up defending "there is no perfect victim". THANK YOU!!!!!!! She has been infuriating to watch. I saw so much of my abuser in her it's almost scary. THANK YOU again for everything you said!
I honestly felt like she was trying to make herself a victim again! “You’re saying I’m not a perfect victim…that makes me even more a victim cos you’re saying I’m not a good victim and you don’t like me…you’re a bully cos you don’t like me and I’m YOUR victim”.
Absolutely this.
@@maryfarrell9439 All the while we have her fantastic statement that she has never been wanting to be seen as a victim.. Well then love, what's this whole story about ?..
@@decay79 This trial has proved that personality is more attractive than physical beauty. I don't think there's a single self respecting man in this world who finds her attractive at all
YES to this whole comment. ❤️
Someone should explain to her that someone saying "you gave the performance of your life" doesnt necessitate it being a good performance
Someone send her a box of ✂️ ✂️ ✂️
@@ff2154 And bee jewelry. 🤣
@no time left stop posting fake rando videos
🤣 That's so true!
@@ff2154 🤣🤣🤣
Her interviewer deserves an award for keeping a straight face as she listened to Amber’s answers. What a skill.
I love how she’s magically a “VICTIM” now, but when Camille suggested she was trying to be seen as a victim, Amber lost her shit 🤷🏻♀️
And Savanna is channeling all of us when she touched on the “donated vs pledged” segment. Her face was everything!
Yes! I wanted Johnny's lawyers to jump all over the fact she was so angry about being called a victim.
I said the same thing! She was heated when she was called a “victim” during trial.🧐
@@susand me too!
Savannah Guthrie also put an provocative spin on the opening "the public is disgusted and has no sympathy for either of you." Amber went blank for a second trying not to get mad.
@@susand she bit Camille's head off at the inference. The jury had the best view of her in the room. There they were seeing her getting weepy without tears when she's being questioned by her own lawyers, turning it on and off like a switch if there was an objection. Terrible client. Terrible Witness. And by all accounts terrible person.
"I'm not a perfect victim". Excuse me, didn't she testify that she would NEVER call herself a victim? 🤔
She said a lot.. at this point no one can keep track of her nonsense 😑
🤣🤣🤣
Yup
She knows people don't see her as a victim because she's full of contempt, superiority complex...not what a victim sees self as.
Her team must have someone reading social medias and giving her feedback. That's why she stopped fake crying on the stand, because she was getting clowned -Dog, bee- among else, for her dry tears.
A liar with a bad memory.
On the stand a few weeks ago: "I NEVER wanted to be seen as a victim, nor have I ever called myself one."
Now: "I'm not a perfect victim, I'm not a likable victim."
👏🏾!!! You caught that. Thank you !
And as I've commented on this before, Amber, what in the world is a "perfect victim"
Woooow great catch!!!! 👏🏻
Every time I hear her say she's not a perfect victim I YELL "that's because you're NOT A VICTIM". No one but me hears me but I can't stand her saying those words. Trying so hard to elicit sympathy.
“I’m not a ______ victim, I'm not a _____victim.”
So I'm a survivor of rape and sexual assault by over 5 different men. I've never told my story anywhere, and only a few people in my life know about it. I can't connect with Amber on her allegations of physical abuse, but when she accused Johnny of sexual abuse, it became personal for me. One of the people that raped me was an ex-boyfriend who I thought I had loved. The day he did that to me, I lost every romantic feeling I'd ever felt with him. Sure, the memories of feeling in love were still there, and I could even recall them today, but never in a million years would I ever say "Yes, I still love him" if someone asked me that question.
Also, I just wanted to say from the bottom of my heart, thank you for the genuine empathy and anger you expressed in this video for every victim of abuse out there. It wasn't hearing Amber say horrible things like "I'm not a perfect victim" that made me cry, it was seeing that there are people like you who care so deeply that it brings them to deep emotion. Your videos have become much more than reactions to body language for me. They've made me feel seen and loved and that there are people willing to fight for the victims. Thank you
I’m very touched by your story, and hope you find strength, love, peace and healing ❤️🩹. Sending you love and hugs (from Canada) 🇨🇦♥️
You are exactly right, abuse and rape kills any previous respect or affection that you had for that person
I’m so sorry that happened to you. Thank you for sharing your view and experience with us
I am so sorry that happened to you. Thanks for sharing your experience! Sending love!❤️
@syd vischer stay strong
To have your abuser say “I love you” after you’ve broken free of them feels like them trying to push themself on you again. Almost like taunting you, “Look, I’m still here, you’ll never get rid of me. I still love you”. That’s what abusers do not survivors.
They never leave you alone. Not until they've secured themselves an alternate victim. Took mine years to finally let go and stop trying to get me back. I had to file harassment charges several times because no, abusers can't let go.
Well said and so true…
Thats exactly what she is doing. She know's she's out of pocket several million,,, of course being the insane gold digger she is, she would throw that line out to see if JD would take her back again and make all her shit " go away " and go back to her glorious blood sucking lifestyle she had when she was with JD..
She is mental and should seriously be institutionalised.
Mine did that. Fortunately, I had support that helped me get free of that malevolent manipulation. Someone who "loves" you doesn't abuse you like that.
@@karenk2409 Exactly. She “loves” JD’s money, fame, and lifestyle and that’s what she’s still fighting tooth & nail to steal, no matter what lie she has to tell or what depraved depths she has to sink to.
As a domestic violence survivor of over 50 years, and as an older woman (67), I can say this. Whenever asked by my therapist to speak about how I feel about my abuser, she knows to prepare for PTSD flashbacks, tears, flushing of my face, profuse sweating and EXTREME nausea...some of the many TRUE symptoms of recalling the person who abused you. I would NEVER say I still loved him. She showed no signs of a true DV survivor and has made a mockery of all the women and men who are.
Exactly what I’m saying! I’m racking my brain for no reason, I feel so bad for Johnny him being a DV survivor, and all actually sexual assault survivors who can’t even get someone to believe them because of people like amber heard who have openly lied about it.
Yes, and sometimes we feel shy about, shame of ourselves, sad, angry, .. this girl has nothing of this, she only wants to look like a hero, the strong one that face her abuser. Blá blá blá. Gives me stress to it. I still think that she's trying go into his mind to try manipulate.
Bless you ❤️
Power to you Linda, thanks for sharing and stay strong. I know nothing of the DV perspectives, I haven’t been involved in it, or nor have I seen it, thank God. Thank-you for sharing your insight.
My friend doesn’t speak out the name of her abuser, nothing would make her mention that name and she wouldn’t look the direction of her abuser too. But Amber mentioned Johnny’s name on countless occasions throughout the trial and was continuously looking at him. It was a complete reverse in Johnny’s case, he wouldn’t look at her or mention her name, he’d rather refer to her as Ms Heard. That made it clear to me who she was
An abuser says " no one will believe you or nobody will care" this was said to me as a child from my abusive sister. Amber said these exact words to Johnny. This went off like fireworks when I heard it.
That is so true! Good point! They do say that!
If she had been sexually abused in the way she stated, there is NO way on earth she could have no ill feeling towards him. And you're right, all through the trial she tried to paint him as a 'monster'. Where did that go? She is a very sick and deluded woman. No wonder so many DV victims are angered by her. In this interview, she even admits that she's not part of that 'group'.
yes, because she is the type of woman that will keep people from believing true abuse survivors in the future. she did not only use JD, she also used all survivors.
In the trial, she had audacity to say she never called herself a victim 😳 what the actual
}*€k ?! Sorry, but seriously!
She apparently has no ill will to any of his witnesses either.., not even the 'Randos'
Facts 💯 She keeps exposing her lies...lol 🙄🤣
Yess that part was so shocking!
I love how you don’t do clickbait Amber-bashing. You go in openly and your excitement about her being an excellent example for clusters of deception is infectious. In this video especially loved finding out about excluding herself from DV victims - had not picked up on that. Great video, thanks!
It has taken me 3 decades and hundreds of hours of therapy to be able to say "I wish him well". And I am lying through my teeth when I say it, but at least I can get the words out now. And my abuser didnt do half the things she claimed Johnny did.
This whole thing has been very triggering. She was 100% correct when she said this was a setback for woman. It was and that's because she made a mockery out of us. How many victims are now going to be told "oK aMbEr HeArD"
I wonder how many of her current supporters are survivors. Not many I imagine.
Hopefully none.
Those prominent feminists who continue to support AH are hurting women equally bad. They paint feminism to be a war on all men and I can’t stand it. Several has stated that they’d wish we would support AH bc of the fact that she’s a woman, even tho if she’s lying about the abuse. I couldn’t believe my own eyes, when I saw this opinion being aired.
Why isn’t the truth the important part?? They’re guilty of what all feminists has bashed the patriarchy for: The caring, supporting and protecting a person due to their gender alone, regardless of the person’s abusive and rotten behavior. I thought this was exactly what feminists wanted to stop!
As a feminist I’m just as upset with those feminists, as I am with AH. Feminism is about equal respect, equal possibilities and the equal right to be heard as a victim. Not turning the tables and become what is wrong with patriarchy. Why would anyone want that?
I say this as a left feminist btw 😏
Exactly 💯 I'm a DV SV survivor as well, I've lived with severe PTSD and I can straight up tell you she's lying through her teeth about all of it!! She wouldn't know PTSD if it hit her in her arrogant forehead!!!! And she's so proud of her pathetic attempts at making big statements that make no sense at all, this woman is a real piece of work!!
So true and I am so sorry this person completely screwed any actual abuse survivors!!!
There was something about Amber’s face in court that instantly told me she was lying. I don’t know what it was, but I was sort of able to pin it down to this look of widened eyes and upturned eyebrows that she has a lot, especially when sat listening to others. It’s an expression that I recognise from my own abusers, almost like a way of saying “look how innocent I am, sitting here listening politely”, head tilted to show she’s listening and all of that stuff. I know nothing about body language but as a DV survivor I could instantly tell from that look that she was lying. She wanted to look innocent and respectful, but for me it was a massive tell that I picked up on immediately.
Same same. I have what I call my manipulative ex-girlfriend who made the same facial expressions. Fake innocence, hiding contempt, and her abusive personality.
YES me too !!!
@@hartwellcomedy I was just about to comment "it's a kind of snakelike contempt, hiding behind feigned innocence". And I saw your comment! So glad other people see this. I think it's pretty common with all cluster B personality disorders. The hatred and superiority behind the false meekness.
She probably thinks “I could you think this of me? Everybody loves me”.
I'm a DV Survivor and when I watched Amber Heard's interview, I felt sickened to my core. In fact, the entire trial I had a very hard time watching her because it was so triggering for me. She paints a story in her head of what she thinks it's like to be a real DV victim, but anyone that's been TRULY involved in abuse can see right through all of her inconsistencies. Thank you for reflecting on what SO many of us feel, but have a hard time explaining. You make it a lot more manageable.
Yes!! Exactly how I felt too!
Same. I get triggered into anger every time she speaks. And her trying to gaslight the world infuriates me. She only reminds me of my abuser.
Yeah. The perfect victim quote here is utterly disgusting. I've been in situation where my partner was physically abusive (I'm male) and I'm actually offended, not angry per say but deeply saddened by this. The nerve that amber truly believes she is a representative of DV survivors, and by her taking our experiences to be put on a pedestal just to feed her ego and narcissism is abhorrent.
If anything that quote alone proves in my mind amber is a parasite, and a leech that ironically screams abusive and controlling. Smh.
Petiton to remove her as a DV ambassador. she should stop dragging women with her loss!
Yes!
I’m a DV survivor and AH reminds me so very much of my abuser who was obsessed with controlling me. I started watching the trial as an impartial observer…but it didn’t take me long to realize who was the instigator in the abuse and who was the abused. And watching her during the trial and in these interviews it is apparent to me that she’s trying her very best to get and hold his attention. Unfortunately these antics are at her own expense and making her a pariah to the whole world.
Her to say " I understand that the average person.." vs "I understand how people would.." just indicates that she's in a class of her own in her own mind. People , of all walks of life (Hollywood stars included) looked at her and thought the same , not just "the average person".
Exactly!!! Her delusions of grandeur are so embarrassingly off the charts it’s truly just mind boggling.🤦🏻♀️
Because she's so above average, obviously. We poors just couldn't understand her high level intellect.
@no time left stop posting fake rando videos cringe
That is exactly what I though , when she says “ the average person “ is because she thinks she is superior as the rest of the world. Very common of a narcissist behavior.
At least most of us "Average people" know about "Parakeet" and "Parquet" flooring...that still makes me laugh so hard.
I'm an abuse survivor, not in relation with DV, but during my childhood. I'm studying psychology right now, and that also sheds some light on everything for myself. There's a clear timeline in events or non-events for me. Sounds weird at first, but let me explain: as I was younger, around 4 to 8 maybe even 9 years old, there was stuff happening to me, I can't clearly remember, just parts of it, and even those are really blurry. It's often hard enough to believe myself that it happened, I would never paint an overly dramatic picture of it. The other thing is, at one point I started to consciously recollect abusive events in my life, which has two causes. The first one, I grew older, my brain started handling things differently, I developed more of a self-sense. The second thing was, it wasn't sexual abuse. Now, I know myself better than anyone else ever could, and I'm pretty sure, would it have been another act of sexual abuse, I would've gone back into the state that I was in as younger child; I'm sure I would struggle with my recollection just as much as I do for the few years earlier. That's something common, something that protects our brains from such horrible moments, and even though I hate the fact that everything is so blurry in my mind, I'm glad that I can't recall every single moment of it. What I effectively wanted to say is; You don't just forget some parts of the abuse and remember others randomly. It's just not how it works. I don't know. It was just something that came up out of a rarely visited place in myself, and maybe being heard is just something I always wanted. Oh well, that got emotional pretty fast. Still, thanks to everyone who took their time to read this, whether there is a response to it or not. And my final conclusion: Amber Heard's disgusting behavior triggered me. I'm sure that tells something, at least it does to me.
(Sorry if my phrasing or word choice seems weird at some point, English isn't my native language.)
I feel really seen by this comment and was just having the same thoughts as you earlier today!
*virtual hug offer*
@@FairyBogFather I'm glad it made you feel seen, because you are. I think a lot of abuse survivors had the same thoughts, therapists, people who are close with survivors, you name it - and like Amber Heard showed us more than clearly, no act in the world comes close to what people like us, who encountered abuse, really go through.
@@g.strobl4458 𝗢𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝗲𝗱
@@cheddarbeansoup *virtual hug* There you are :-)
When Amber said “I’m not a perfect victim” it confirmed my suspicion she was just playing a part for the cameras. Amber’s idea of a “perfect” victim is a fragile woman who breaks down in tears when recalling the abuse she suffered. Amber tried to play what she thought was a perfect victim and she failed miserably
I think she was just trying to manipulate.
I think she watched those Lifetime movies highlighting spousal abuse and took them to be documentaries.
but there are actual victims of dv or rape, who are denied to file a complaint at the police station... because the policemen don't take them seriously. because those victims don't look like the "good victim", they don't cry, they aren't bruised, or they're still drunk, their clothes aren't torn, or they're prostitutes... the prejudices are real.
They jumped on Dr Spiegel saying "we don't expect our victims to be perfect" (one of the very little I agreed with him on), and ever since then she & Elaine etc have talked about her as "an imperfect victim" because they think it makes a great soundbite/sub-header etc.
The trouble is, that AH has trouble switching the perspectives and so the opposite of her being an imperfect victim is her being _not a perfect victim_, which to her means that she blieves a perfect victim exists (and we know from her court reaction what she thinks of victims). However, the wording doesn't translate like that for the reason Spidey highlights....there is "no perfect victim" because the connotations of thinking someone is a "perfect" for being a victim is abhorent to most of us - in fact, I'd go so far as to say, that her attitude is the way an abuser would think "this person will make the perfect target because they're a man & use drugs, so no on will believe him, i might even get him believing it himself if I convince him he did stuff when he passed out." = perfect victim to get their hooks in. Sickening.
However, she seems to have already forgotten her aggressive rebuttal of Camille calling her out on wanting to be seen as a victim, when she showed us what she actually thinks about victims (on top of the way she's talked the rest of the time about JD on the tapes when she hit him or he tried to remove himself from her physical fight etc), she thinks victims are weak, and even if it would have bolstered her story in the heat of that moment in court she showed us that _she's_ not weak & so not a victim. If at the time she'd said "I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor," then the conversation would have been different.
She's all about her soundbites though, that's why we have this "I'm not a good victim, I'm not a perfect victim" response, it's like she thinks she's in an episode of Law & Order SVU. You can almost hear their dramatic transition noise they make on the show whenever she pauses.
Exactly and there’s no such thing as a “perfect victim” LMAO.
Your point about her being genuinely affected by the term "global humiliation" makes a lot of sense to me. If you pay attention, the times during her testimony where she felt the most sincere, were the times when she was talking about how this whole thing has bruised her ego - not when she was describing how she was abused.
That's true, and kinda disgusting..
@@fil0sofia Does kinda means a litlle?
Maybe she's just trying to claim emotions she doesn't have, never has had and never will have. Psychopaths often fake the emotions they cannot feel.
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I am very empathetic. I am a sympathy crier, big time! Every time AH shows “sadness” I only feel embarrassment. I cringe. It’s not real. I’ve felt nothing but embarrassment and anger when watching her.
The “perfect victim” comment had me hot! Didn’t she say she never saw herself as a victim? And now she is saying she wasn’t the “perfect victim” and that’s why she wasn’t believed?! Ugh this woman makes me angry. She is her own worst enemy. The more she talks, the deeper the hole she digs.
same!! Except I felt confusion for whatever reason. I caught myself having to relax my face because I had WTF lines BAD.
Isaac on the stand saying how awful this has been for everyone brought a tear to my eye. never once did she.
Spidey nearly made me cry a few times in this video. Not Amber though.
I am extremely empathetic too and Amber wasn’t able to get any sad emotional reactions from me. She is so fake.
This hole she is digging cannot be deep enough! I think she is suffering from schizophrenia! Not one sentence make sense and it's more or less word salat... fire! 🥵🥵🥵
I think she was telling the truth when she said “loaning her voice to a bigger cultural conversation at the time.” To me, that screams “i created a story to share during a bigger cultural conversation we were having at the time.” Shes telling on herself. She saw what was happening with women in the media, she saw the opportunity being with an A list celebrity with known problems, and she took the opportunity to feign an abuse story people would be willing to accept.
yes! She ws trying to ride the coattails of the "me,too" movement for some increased popularity and some interest in her. It didn't work!!! She is a very disturbed and very dangerous manipulator, and I am soooo glad that Johnny finally saw her for what she is, and escaped!!!!!!!!!!
She was not an A lost celebrity . Not by a long long long shot lol
@@Allyourbase1990”of being with an A list celebrity” meaning Johnny Depp. Not her being that celebrity
her friends are all activists too.
@@Stand-g3i and with true believers, the ends justify the means, even lying about an abusive marriage, by reversing the roles. Amber was the abuser.
As a survivor, her entire testimony upset me. I've never seen a true survivor look in the eyes of someone questioning them. It took me years to do that after years of intense therapy. She makes my blood boil with her statements.
I can’t watch or listen to her any more, and don’t think I’m alone in that.
I feel the exact same way
As a survivor, could you say that you still love your abuser?
My thoughts exactly!
@@davidmehnert6206 Well I think her poor performance and chaotic logic is quite hilarious to watch lol
I'm a survivor and Amber has triggered my PTSD since I started observing some of the trial. This interview had me yelling at the screen too. The way she talks about how she loves Johnny and wishes him no ill will - I can't even think back to when my relationship with a psychopath started and seemed wonderful without feeling sick to my stomach! When I discovered the patterns of his behavior, learned what exactly gaslighting was and how it was happening to me, discovered ALL the lies, etc...I have never fallen out of love with someone so quickly. When I realized that I was in very dangerous territory because he was talking about me "disappearing", I couldn't cut ties with him quickly enough.
Thank you for your insight. I see you have a channel for MH and healing. Paying it forward!!! Courage!!! Can’t wait to check it out
Yikes.! Scary stuff. Hope you are doing okay now.
I'm glad you're out of that now!
I agree though, I have lots of ill will and bad feelings towards my abusive ex. There was a couple things from the trial that AH did/said that reminded me of things he had done to me that I had TOTALLY forgotten about.
I am sorry you went thru this. I agree. I once loved my abuser, before he began to beat me. The first time he hit me I "forgave" him. We had been living together a year no abuse at all, we got married and he hit me for the first time on our wedding night. I had hoped it was some isolated freak incident..i justified it as stress, thought it *was just* a one time thing, after all he never did that before, never put me down etc, I couldnt see how he was an abuser yet held it in over a year. I also believed his "I'm sorry" and all that stuff... I honestly didnt want to believe that was the type of man he was. however about a month later he literally kick the shyt out of me.. I knew then he *was* an abusive a$$hole.. I stopped loving him right then and there and now when I look back at the time before the abuse began, I don't see the love I thought was there, I don't feel he "was a great guy", I never look at that first year and a half we were together (before the abuse began) as a magical time... I look back at it as all BS, it wasn't real. I don't know one DV survivor that looks at the time before the abuse as anything positive at all. I have never heard a DV survivor speak of how they loved their abuser (past or currently loving them) I speak at battered women shelter, fundraisers, high schools etc telling my story (I've even spoken before congress) and many many people come up to me afterwards and tell them their stories .. either past or what they are currently going thru... not one has ever spoke of love for their abuser.
Sorry long comment didn't mean to write a book here
I've been severely triggered as well! My mother and brother and 2 long term exes were exactly like AH and it has made me sick to my stomach too. Especially this interview with her being the martyr. She's so sick I really hate her.
When she says "it was the most humiliating and horrible experience of my life," she's describing the Trial not the Abuse. You can see the real emotion in her eyes. She is tearing up and her chin trembles. She was never Abused but this trial did Humiliate her, and she brought this on herself.
Her getting caught in her BS is what’s humiliating and then having to defend her lies is double humiliating and really stressful as it’s hard to keep track of all those lies.. I can’t with this chick! And the most horrible thing she’s ever gone through SHOULD be those excruciatingly detailed episodes of abuse, from 6 to 10+ years ago! And she calls herself a ‘victim’ now? WTF?? Johnny didn’t actually text that to her, right wasn’t it to his sister? And he said “she is BEGGING for global humiliation”. I don’t think Amber even knew about that until he submitted his phone records, ironically she didn’t submit hers. Yes, Amber is just digging herself in deeper and deeper and that must be because of her delusional high opinion of herself.. notice how she is educating us “average people”. She will never learn and never give up… something legal and very serious needs to be done because it’s obvious that even a trial and this verdict has not even slowed her down.. maybe worse now… she is her worst enemy…
Yes! I just commented the same thing. Such a BIG tell that she's lying.
Correct !
Yes, I keep thinking this all the time about her true sad feeling moments, ALL of it is self-pity. All I see is her being salty for getting caught in serious lies and (rightfully) losing. It's basic emotional manipulation and I've seen it way too much back when my mother emotionally and verbally abused me. It pisses me off knowing some people don't know better and actually mistake it for some sort of remorse. To clarify I'm pissed at Amber for continuing to abuse, not those who don't know better.
Exactly!!!
Being abused in childhood still creates anger in me even after therapy. It's the betrayal. How do you love someone who betrays you, mocks you and then blames you. Clearly a lie, it has to be
Exactly
I am a survivor of verbal and physical abuse from my ex husband, and have C-PTSD from it. A lot of things AH has said trigger me in the wrong way. I think, most of all, her statement of "Why would I?" on the stand, so nonchalantly, about whether she'd be afraid of the repercussions of sharing a disrespectful photo of "her abuser". I would NEVER. EVER. Because my very first thought would be how severely I would be beaten after doing something like that. You can't do that to a real abuser without knowing you'd be violently attacked. That was the defining moment for me.
Her stating she still loves him and smiling when discussing their relationship proves he was a good man to her and never an abuser. I always think, was I even in love? Or was it simply trauma bonding? For me, I have zero positive feelings for him. My stomach churns at the very thought of being with him and I feel physically sick. She's only proving he's never touched her, she was the abuser, and she longs for the times when someone was good to her. You never long for times when you were abused. And when you're out of a relationship like that, no amount of good times will overshadow the reality of the bad. Every time I watch her, I feel sick. Because she is the one who reminds me of my abuser, not JD. The abuser is the one who wants back in, not the victim.
Thank you for raising your voice.
I thought that comment was incredibly telling as well...
@@jessicacortese1168 There are so many survivors out there that need to. We need to stand up and protect each other. It's the only way to move forward.
I just replied to someone else’s comment about this. I’m reading through all of these from the top and at least three of us so far have listed “Why would I?“ in it’s quoted form FIRST! We get it!! I wanted to scream at some of the LawTubers that “wait, you’re missing something extremely important here.” Abuse survivors get it.
"The abuser is the one that wants back in, not the victim." This is absolutely correct.
As someone who has experienced abuse, her lies are insulting in my opinion. Gaining sympathy on the backs of real victims to prop herself up. Terrible 😢
And yet she’s disgusted by us really. Thinks real survivors are weak. Like men who can express their emotions.
She’s delusional
My sentiments exactly.
@@Jezebel066 Exactly! 💯 She is truly, truly unbelievable. I truly hope & pray that she gets much therapy, especially as she's now a Mother! I'm a Psychologist, and let me say, there is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with getting therapy. And I'd say, she would be doing the correct thing, if she starts getting therapy again, and especially geared toward not only her personality issues, but for her to become a much safer & loving new Mother.
I learn so much too, from you, as well, The Behavioral Arts!!! I would love to work with you at different times. Especially with you having the Mentalist abilities, and then myself having 2 degrees in Clinical Psychology, Abnormal Psychology, & then too, having certificates The, in The Art Form of Abnormalities in Psychology. Is there another media that may have your email, or other way to contact? Thank you so very much hun! Kristin 😘😓😱🔥🙏
At this point (and for weeks now), she's making a majority of us, real victims, sick to our stomachs.
Can't imagine what it all was for Johnny, the whole trial, the choice to have to expose himself so thoroughly in order to have a chance to win, and now this...
I'm so glad he's now able to feel the wide, deep support, worldwide, of other abuse victims, and his fans.
He's moving on.
She's not.
And that on itself tells a lot too.
This is short, concise, and powerful. Thanks Lauren
I like how she calls herself a victim and in the court room, insisted she's never called herself a victim
She said on the stand that she never called herself a victim. Now she’s calling herself a victim.
Thank you!!!! I've literally been screaming at the television regarding AH "I love him". I am a survive abuse victim, both DV & SV, & still to this day, over 25 years later, wish nothing on him except for him to rot - I loathe him in every possible way. I am no expert but during the trial it was painfully obvious to me she was lying & I loathe her for her pretence - how dare she - she makes my blood boil.
This was excellent!!! Thank you Spidey!! I appreciate the breakdown you give; i understand now why AH comments made me sooooo angry. With intelligent analysis like this, I don't have to spin out on her bs. Starting my behavioral arts library...thank you.
~another grateful survivor.
She forgave him already
All of us who have experienced abuse, even rape, know that she is not telling the truth. I grew up in domestic violence with my mom as the abusive one, she still is at almost 80s years old. Like Johnny with his childhood trauma the first instinct is to run from it, like he did. It's obvious she's the abuser, but that she puts the jurors down...it's just narcissism, like she thinks if she badgers people enough, beats them down, they'll believe her. Not the way it works.
Especially the bottle part. I would never get over that & I would have gone straight to the hospital and reported it.
DITTO!
I am a survivor of abuse. When the authorities told me “we can’t proceed specifically with his background” (which meant he had “power”) I felt horrible. I often say “I don’t hate him but if he dies I am not gonna cry” I also say “I thought I was in love, but that’s not love”. The perfect victim, yeah right, that’s why we don’t believe her, bc we know she is lying
Good points, Athena! When the tape in court from Johnny says "I loved you for so long, but you were not real..." THAT is what an abuse victim thinks. Amber bombed!
Well it's possible she never planned to lie but you know how sometimes you stretch the truth a little or just exaggerate a few things and then you tell one more little white lie to cover up the first one and then another and the funny thing thing is one thing leads to another and it turns into this Chimera you can't control and you're down a rabbit hole you can't climb out of. I think that's what happened here. Amber never meant it to get so carried away to end up in court.
@@jonfreeman9682 AH virtually said that in one of the leaked audios we heard. She said something to the effect of "I didn't mean it all to get this out of hand but one little lie I told snowballed into one thing after another and now here we are". Massive rolling of eyes.
Good way to explain those feelings. I have a hard time expressing myself properly on that subject
Agreed. I think that phrase is so infuriating & hurtful to survivors, is it shows contempt & disdain for survivors. “I know I’m not the perfect victim” to a talking down to victims it is setting herself above others, of I’m not like them, but with disdain like I’m not the perfect little girl there is an air of disgust & judgement in a negative way. She said something on the stand as well as her deposition that had a similar air about Im not one of those weak women- disgust, disdain, contempt for survivors of domestic violence & rape. I think that might be why we are all reacting is while she has tried to dress herself in the costume of abuse survivor it is a costume only, her truth is she has contempt for women she judges as weak & was only using it to fight his team’s insistence on a post nup during their divorce which in the most telling of all on her cross when Camille brilliantly executed the “…Lt Kendrick gave the order because that’s what you told him to do, & when it went bad you cut these guys loose, you doctored the logbooks… Colonel Jessup did you order the Code Red!!??” And Amber replied THAT’S why I wrote the Op Ed! (Because Johnny is a powerful man, everyone loves him & seek to curry favor, come out of the woodwork…)
She never thought it would get this far. Remember her crying on the call this is going to hurt my credibility- he said we will go to the papers, we will tell them we love each other this has gotten out of hand we will remove this from the media…she interrupted with a comment what will people think of her & he said why did you write the article? I didn’t put this out there, you did. And she said you made me. I didn’t make you. “Your team.” Ok so I’ll talk to the team. For me that recording was the most damning.
So what is she doing now? Same thing she did during their relationship according to their therapist- control the narrative. Now she is wrapping herself in the flag, in America, free speech & speaking to Power. Oh so what, trying to position yourself as the voice for domestic violence & Me Too backfired now you’re going to try to play to the America First Crowd?! I have had it with this C U next Tuesday. I am enraged because I actually was raped with a foreign object! (Cordless phone) I was actually grabbed by my hair and dragged through the living room thrown into walls. Thrown into a glass frame, dented my nose, chipped front tooth. I was grabbed by my throat & lifted off the ground. Kicked in the middle of my back knocked to the ground. I was raped while he put a pillow case over my face & I made myself small inside my head slowed my breathing afraid he would accidentally smother me if he came too hard so I stopped screaming stopped fighting just focused on my breathing & went somewhere else deep inside to a field yellow wheat down the path into the woods to the crystal pond so that whatever happened to my body wasn’t happening to me because I wasn’t there it was just my body it wasn’t me. So yeah. I wish we still had a town square & were allowed to throw rotten apples at people who were as villainous as she. It is not ok for her to use trauma like it is a game. I have not been able to be in a full relationship since 1999 as a result of my trauma & PTSD. I can have close friendship intimacy or just sex. I cannot have sex with someone I have feelings for. It is too much. And I am & was a strong & intelligent woman. Her stereotype of the perfect victim of some weak woman who is frail & vulnerable is as insulting as the old lies SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT, WHAT WAS SHE WEARING, BOYS WILL BE BOYS.
Again, now that the tide has turned & it backfired on her & the Me Too Movement is out of fashion, she’s trying to make it about free speech. Well accusing someone of a crime isn’t what anyone is talking about when they speak of free speech honey! That’s called slander, defamation & good old fashioned LIES. Sure you can say it but be prepared to reap the consequences.
And sorry everyone, she triggers me to a bad place 😓
“ I still love him” are the words of an abuser trying to lure their victim back, the words of someone who is not done yet.
Exactly! It reeks of desperation and manipulation... It's not what a victim would say.
I wondered that, too. When she said that, I thought, “Is she hoping he’ll hear this and not ask for the money during sentencing?”
Yes, my reaction was "Eeeeeeeewwweww so gross"
I wondered the same thing!
Exactly. She's hoovering and love bombing even now. She's so toxic, I'm starting to wonder how Johnny got away from her alive.
I love your passion when talking about her being a perfect victim. 100% truth. What blatant disrespect for real victims. I am glad this was publicized, so many people watched it. I think it opened a lot of eyes out there, and hopefully push some people that are victims to try to escape their situation.
As someone who has personal experience with survivors of DV and SA, her statement that she has no hard feelings or ill will feels off, especially after 6 years and a lawsuit. I can see feeling conflicted, especially right after the end of the relationship, feeling some attachment along with anger and hurt and fear and disgust. But nothing but love 6 years later? Absolutely not. Also, the fact that she never once expressed concern that he may hurt someone else was a red flag for me. Speaking out is hard, and from what I've seen, a big motivating factor for survivors to speak out is preventing harm to others in the future. The idea that JD is as violent as she has described, but yet she's not worried about him hurting others seems more than a little off to me. Just my two cents.
Now you mentioned it, "prevent harm to others in the future" if she didn't speak out. Yes, she never made that statement. No concern for other victims.
I agree very much I worry all the time about my ex-husband's new children and his wife I can't even imagine.
Literally said she got a bottle forced inside her, got a broken nose, beaten with heavy rings, dragged across the floor. As any true victim knows, you often want them to get a taste of their own medicine.
Spot on Nichole!
actually didn’t think about that but that’s such a huge point! thanks I totally see it
I heard the warning and I thought to myself "oh, I'll be fine. I've heard enough from her to already be mad. Surely she couldn't do any worse." And she blew my expectations out of the park. I have to say, you were right. It's infuriating. I'm also writing this before getting to the analysis, so you may mention it, but she mentions "I'm not the perfect victim, I'm not a likable victim" or whatever else she spews. Didn't she once say, in a very aggressive tone, that she has NEVER claimed to be a victim?
Interesting.
Have a good therapy day. You should bring this up
Good catch. She sure did say " I've never claimed to be the victim".
Me too! I appreciate the warning. But I watched and she said something so simple but so telling this woman has a serious problem.
I can say as a DV survivor...she is full of it, especially saying she has "no ill will toward him." The statement of a "perfect victim" makes my blood boil also!
Where to start with her lies?! The nightmares of being beaten and raped by my first husband are enough for me to still have ill will! The fact that I still deal with those nightmares occasionally makes me still have ill will toward him. The fact that I was terrified of relationships for so long makes me still have ill will still toward him. The fact that he made me believe I was not worthy of love or happiness makes me still have ill will toward him. The fact that I was told every day by him that I was ugly and stupid still makes me have ill will toward him. I could name many other reasons.
Thank God today I know my worth and strength. He was the weak and ugly one...not me! I was a victim...period! She has mocked us DV victims with her lies and she should be ashamed! I truly pray for her ugly heart...she sure needs it.
The way she ferociously claimed in court that she isn't a victim didn't sit well with me. This term of "perfect victim" has been on my mind for days. It makes my blood boil too!!
@@hughmungus431 A survivor, thriver or whatever word one who has been assaulted and abused uses to describe themselves as, whether you like it or not, was indeed a victim. Too bad if you don't like that word! It doesn't make it any less true! The OP had the courage to share their story and you're shutting them down. Your comment actually feels like emotional manipulation!
@@hughmungus431 you are certainly entitled to your opinion....but the word victim is not tied to just women. There are male victims, as well. If that word makes you "feel gross" I really don't know what to tell you. I WAS A VICTIM OF DV! You know what I find gross?! A man or woman thinking it is ok to beat the shit out of their partner, mentally and verbally abuse them, and sexually assault them...that is what I call gross! What I also find gross is any man or woman who accuses an innocent person of these things, when it is not true...that is equally as gross in my opinion. If that is what you took out of my comment, you totally missed the point of it! I have never been told by a male or female that using the word "victim is gross." I will continue to say that I was a victim and survivor of DV! My support group and counselor use the word, as well. You can use whatever word your heart desires, but....so can I! Not trying to be a "prick" either. Your opinion of me is none of my business! Have a great day!
@@thingsthatmakeyagohmmm2291 EXACTLY 💯! Thank you!
@@kellyj79 You are very welcome. As a survivor I can relate to everything you have said. I'm still dealing with the aftermath. I don't feel worthy of love either and the thought of another relationship scares me. I don't know if I could ever be in one again and I most definitely have ill will towards my ex.
I love how passionate you are when speaking about the "types" of victims. That speaks volumes to me about your morals.
Yeah, I actually felt protected 🤍
“I am not here to call them any names”- but calls them paid staff and randos… discrediting every one of them
What I, as an abuse survivor, often hear “get over it”. I was in an abusive relationship from literally the drive home from getting married. He did everything he could to control me, limit my topics of conversation, what I wore, who I had contact with including my family. The physical attacks were horrible, but I seriously preferred that to the emotional abuse. Married at 18, divorced at 23. It was when my boys were 2 and newborn and he went after them in anger, I thru him out - which is what he wanted and was too cowardly to discuss it. I was very lucky to meet a wonderful man for 34 years and he dealt with a lot from me. Don’t scare me, don’t force me into a room or place I don’t want to go, don’t yell or cuss me out, don’t grab me aggressively, don’t be aggressively during intimacy- and the list goes on. At 73, I’m here to tell you, it still affects me, not that I want it to, but it’s involuntary. My current boyfriend did a lot of changing because of my involuntary responses, flinching, getting soo nervous I shook, jerking away, soo anxious I’d get sick. Soo, even though people say get over it, they’ve never lived in terror, fright, beatings both physical and emotional. So here it is 55 years later and my scars are just a bit less visible. Abuse leaves a lifetime of emotional damage.
You're a strong and beautiful lady, Janice!
Sorry that you went through this but glad that you had a happier life afterwards.
I am glad you are with a man now who understands how badly your past scarred you and is loving you so much to go out of his way to make you feel safe. This is both sad and nice to read
How lucky you are to have found a wonderful understanding man - that really loves you and has stood by you after all you endured. I hope you let him know that as well. I wish I could have only been as lucky.
I understand the feeling of involuntary flinching and thing’s affecting you years later. I was bullied verbally and physically as a kid. To this day if something is being thrown across a room or outside, even if it’s not being hurled towards me or anyone else (or if my husband or son are just playing ball), I will always block it no matter what. It’s a reflex action. My husband always says, I would never throw anything at you or hurt you, don’t you trust me? I remind him that it’s not that I don’t trust him, I just can’t control those reflexes. Out of instinct I anticipate it.
Amber says, the trial was the most humiliating and horrible thing she's ever been through. Well damn... i thought being emotionally, physically and sexually abused was the worst thing she's ever been through. Nice to know she has her traumas prioritized.
Good pick up.
Relative value statement.
A bit terrifying if you assume both events are real but I think it places real trauma over invented trauma and is thus actually honest and healthy.
That bothered me as well. But I also guess that she'd easily just say that "oh yeah, of course, that was way way worse, how could it not have been?" It's kind of her pattern (I guess) that every time something bad happens it's the most humiliating and dehumanising thing she's ever experienced.
For a narcissist, the revealing of themselves and the breaking of their carefully crafted public image is a nightmare. This is what they focus on the most. To lose it is to them the most horrible thing.
States that but then says she has absolutely no bad feelings towards Johnny! Like….what?!?! What?!
As an abuse survivor, this angers me that I was shouting at my screen while watching the interview. She clearly doesn't know how it is to be violently abused and it just makes my blood boil that she even has the audacity to separate herself from all of us DV victims, if she was indeed abused, which I highly doubt. She is just a liar and a gold digger who is using the pain of other women to get what she wants.
She admitted to using the pains of others by "becoming part of a larger conversation."
I am now 6 years out of my abusive relationship and I can easily say that not only do I actively have to remind myself that I am safe and deserve to have healthy relationships. That being the victim doesn’t make me a weak person but that I was taken advantage of. A piece of me was ripped from my soul and taken by a poor excuse of a man. I was gas lit and quite literally made to believe I was crazy-a lot of what she said on the stand was similar to my experiences with my ex. I was across country away from my whole family-and was left hiding in a garbage container until the cops came. This changed who I am. This broke me and no one else was able to put me back together other than myself (thru years of therapy). I would never ever say I love him. I don’t love him. I quite literally hate him. There’s a difference between coming to peace with your past and holding hate towards the person who abused you. I am at peace with that part of my life, I have a wonderful support system and I’m secure and safe with myself. But I still hate him with every fiber of my being. I try to not let my past consume my present but there are triggers. There are moments where I am lost in a flashback. It’s unfair that she’s portraying herself as a victim and to further it saying she’s not a “likable” one. I don’t give a rats ass if as a victim I am liked.
When she said that this trial was a step back for victims of DV/SA she wasn’t wrong. But it’s not because of Johnny we have this set back. It’s because of HER. She took advantage of every single victim out there by claiming to be one herself. I remember seeing her depo in 2016 and knowing she was lying when talking about her sister. I had just gotten on a plane in the middle of the night to leave my abuser and remember seeing her depo and actively saying-is this who I am now? A victim. And I am. But through the years I’ve found strength in my healing-not my abuse-but my healing. She set the clocks back for DV/SA victims. And quite honestly I hope she rots the same way I hope my abuser rots.
Sorry I got very heated and am floored that she would have the nerve to do an interview and claim she is still a victim and is telling the truth.
There is a difference between reality and someone’s perception of reality. Her perspective is she is a victim but the reality is-she’s a liar and a shitty one at that.
They are all gonna rot together, taking turns shifting blame and making up stories based on technicalities and semantics.
My heart goes out to you Kayla, I saw first hand what a narcissist can do to someone. Those of us on the perimeter feel helpless to do anything for fear of making it worse. You made it through this, you are stronger than you think. I see in Amber everything that we see in "our" narcissist, he still has some influence over his victims, but they are getting stronger every day.
From one survivor to another, God bless you. I admire your strength. You got this.
You brought me to tears and I wish you a happy life
Not unlike the people that say they have cancer when they don't.
"Perfect victim" infuriates me as well. She is so consumed with what people "think". It's gross.
Also, as a survivor, I can't even speak my abuser's name without feeling sick. No love for him. Just typing this out is making my stomach hurt. When I meet a stranger with the same first name, I instantly don't trust them. Unfair, yes, but I can't help it.
I thought I was the only one who didn’t trust strangers with the same first name. Sending you peace. ❤️
agree and I relate to everything you said
Thank you for sharing, you made it threw with a stronger heart. Proud of you, keep healing.
Yes, one want to throw up.... If I hear about a person even from the same country as him.... or yes a similar name.... I get sick to my stomach as well.
If I ever had to go to court - I would sit like Johnny did! Not ever see that f***** face again!
Funny how on the stand it was Johnny this and Johnny that. Then in these interviews it's Jack Sparrow... hmm has she been reading DV survivor's comments on social media? Surely not! 🤔
Hi all, I was abused physically as a child, and watched my mother get abused by an alcoholic father. At no point did either of us ever talk to him the way AH talked to JD. We were walking on egg shells at all times, and would do anything to not set him off. We would apologies for things we didn't even do so as to not contradict him. When I heard the tapes of AH interacting with JD, it was obvious she was not being abused by him at all or ever. She makes me so angry for faking being a victim of abuse. And I know in my heart she is faking and is a liar.
You are absolutely right. AH antagonizes JD. This is the last thing a victim of DA would ever do. Victims are in survival mode, and do not want to set off the abuser.
I agree. She recorded the stuff to make him look bad and all it did was show it wasn't as she said at all. Her own recordings began digging her own grave and she's carried on since. I think she didn't bank that he'd admit she did it to him and she even taunts him that he won't do that
I can only agree. I was also abused in my childhood too (but not "too much" - dunno how to express it... I just know... well some ppl suffered more)... her obvious lies make me so mad... when you are a victim, you learn to avoid confrontation, you learn to read signs to... flee or whatever you can do when you need, you even learn to get deceptive not to provoke any bad reaction or... some retaliation. And now she talks about "a good victim" ? "a perfect victim" ? ... the only ppl talking about good victims or perfect victims are either the predators... or ppl trying to act perfectly like a victim. PERIOD !!!
She claims she is reacting to abuse ..and it took her a long time because she didn’t know how to respond to it. BUT that doesn’t make any sense because she grew up in a home with an abusive, alcoholic father -to her, her sister, and her mom-so she KNOWS what abuse is. She claims she didn’t know how to respond to abuse so she had to get “used to it” and then knew how to respond back? That doesn’t make sense! She Abused her ex, abused her sister. Friends/people around her..it doesn’t make sense!!
@@kerrysullivan6503 I understand your comment, but I did antagonise an abuser, because I was so angry and they were a coward, when I got stronger and they were weaker, but only when I was in a stronger position, but she's lying through her teeth and the tears are fake x
Dude, you’re awesome! Thank you for sharing your well-educated insights, as well as getting upset at the things that matter. She is clearly a troubled individual, who is hurting, and has developed negative coping strategies to deal with her unresolved life tensions. But, to say she’s the voice or face of survivors of abuse because she was involved in a ‘cultural conversation at that time’ is OUTRAGEOUS!!! Thank you, again, for not remaining unbiased when you see injustice! 🧡
When I told my Psychologist that I was watching this trial she asked 'why', and I said "I know I shouldn't be watching it, as it is triggering for me", I added "But I think she is lying" she said "oh really what makes you say that?" I won't go into word for word after that, but basically said that she is telling it like a story out of a novel or a movie script, way to much detail. As an abuse survivor, you remember the abuse and the feeling (fear), when you are asked to tell the traumatic experience, I still years later, I breakdown crying, tears rolling down my face, snot flowing out my nose, unable to retell the horror. It's something that never leaves you. It's even harder to say it out loud. I think you don't even have to be a victim to see she was not telling it from a victims perspective. Not even close. She acted like the abuser. It's terrible what that woman has done to true survivors of DV and SV. She has to stop.
Yeah, what has been clear to me is that wherever I go on the internet, sincere survivors all don't believe her.
Ambers been google searching her “trauma”
Your post resonates way too well with me. I quite recently told one of my close friends of my abuse. I couldn’t look her in the eyes as I tried to explain. I couldn’t go into detail at all. It even took her to put two and two together from the clues I gave her to finally understand.
YOU ARE A SURVIVOR . AH is a FRAUD!
You are correct ... she tells it like a movie script and you can tell, because there a KEY DETAILS MISSING ... like talking WITH INTENSITY about HER OWN BLOOD, which must have flown plenty during the "Australia incident", because she mentions cuts from glass in her earlier (UK) testimony ... but never talks about the blood ... and if you bleed and have glass stuck inside you (shards can be rather small!), you need to ease the pain with running water and also clean the wounds with it ... AND YOU NEED SOMEONE ELSE LOOKING AT THE WOUNDS CLOSELY to get rid of the glass. She did NEITHER of these things, which makes it absolutely clear that it is A STORY and NOT REAL!
The same is true for the "broken nose", because a nose bleeds quite a bit when it gets hit (just watch a particularly tough boxing match). That STORY was taken from "21 Jump Street - pilot/episode 1&2", where Johnny's character starts as a street cop but breaks the noses of several of his partners; they dont show the blood in that TV series and Amber probably copied/adjusted her story from there. [It's up on YT, so you can check yourself.]
I grew up with a mother who has borderline personality disorder and so much of what Amber says reminds me of my mom. Even her facial expressions and gestures are triggering to me. My mom will always paint herself as the confused victim who just wants to love people and be loved in return. My mom is a serial liar who will say whatever she needs to say in order to get her way and get people on her side. I’ve seen people shocked that amber could have lied about everything bc it’s such crazy behavior, but I’ve lived with someone who has behaved in the same way and I know it’s possible.
So terrible what you grew up with.
This this this! I too have a borderline mother and have had relationships with borderlines. Just because one is nice and would never sink so low, does NOT mean others are the same. I mean sheesh, people can be nasty AF. Some women do lie about being abused. "Oh come on, what would a woman gain from that?" Are u f*****g kidding me?! And yes, I too find this triggering. My mum is seriously manipulative. I'm well into adulthood and still suffer the consequences.
Thank you for sharing and I am sorry for what you suffered. I worry about her daughter and what having a parent like that will mean for her...
Sending love and best wishes for you.
What always surprises me is people thinking at some point Amber will admit what she did and admit to her lies, but that's normal people using normal logic on a very troubled person. What someone like Amber will do is double down, which she did with this interview and continue to paint herself in a certain light, which she did.
People forget that for a very long time, Amber's behaviour worked for her. She could convince people she's a good person, a victim or however she likes, but at some point the very behaviour that kept her afloat is her downfall. Problem is, Amber and people like her cannot admit defeat or change. Quite often people suffering from narcissism and borderline personality disorder will commit suicide when they feel the jig is up or continue believing they will eventually win.
Feels this soooo much. Hope everyone who relates can find some healing and know: you're not alone. 💕
I was sexually abused by my father as a child and also groomed by him throughout my entire childhood and listening to Amber Heard give her testimony was extremely traumatic and distressing for me to hear. I even started having nightmares throughout the trial as it resurfaced so much pain from my childhood but this wasn't because I believed her. It's because I don't. Amber is extremely triggering to those of us who are true survivors but once justice was granted I decided that I wouldn't let her affect me like that ever again. I'm relieved I can now watch these interviews after she lost the case and no longer feel traumatised by her lies or malice. She ultimately lost and her victim became a survivor because of it.
I am so sorry for what you went through! Thank you for sharing your story. Sending you virtual hugs from Norway!
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I thought it was just me that started having nightmares from watching the trial when I thought I had long since put my abuser and the effects in my past! I'm the same now. She is just pathetic and needs to get back in touch with reality
So well said,please look after yourself hope ya doing OK 🫂
Hope you are doing well ❤️
Thank you for this video. I never thought that I could receive so much purging and closure and strength from this trial. Dr. Curry's testimony, other therapists' analysis, body language videos, behaviorists, and particularly this very video led me to realize what happened to me was not my fault. I can stop feeling as though I failed and can stop wondering how I could have persuaded them to not do what they did to me. I now know that was never going to happen. I was in the presence of a very deceptive malignant narcissist in two of my former supervisors, a pity seeking vulnerable/malignant narcissist in my sister, and a grandiose narcissist in my ex friend. I'm still not able to talk about other experiences. It was all right in front of me. I just didn't know what to look for while reflecting on everything that has happened. I feel soooo much relief and extra power. Words can't come close to describing how freeing and empowering this video was.
Here are my thoughts as a CSA victim. If, after all these years of healing and therapy, I was able to put aside my bad feelings toward my abusers and move on with my life, and one of my abusers sued me, THAT would feel like MORE abuse. Then, to top that off, if he won?? THAT would again, be even MORE abuse. It would feel like such an injustice. It would most definitely bring up all of the old feelings that I thought I dealt with. As far as I know, healing takes place in stages/levels. After many years, you, as a survivor, may think you're all healed up and you're fine, but then you get triggered and all these old feelings come back up again. It doesn't mean you never experienced any healing in the first place. It just means you need to go even deeper than you did before. If one of my abusers brought me to court and won? I would absolutely break down and may even want to off myself because of the injustice. I wouldn't be able to go on camera and tell the world that I still love my abuser and have no ill will. She is soooo not a victim, and shame on her for these webs of lies. Just my two cents...
I couldn't agree with this statement more. I was a victim of SA at a teenager. It took years for me to heal. There have since then been small things that feel like my healing has been undone and I have to go deeper to heal the deeper wounds I didn't realize were there. But something like this, I can't even express the emotions it would put me through.
Absolutely.
The only good thing (if you want to call it that)
is that there's absolutely no chance on this green earth of her 'offing herself'.
Everyone she knows, knew or will know should hire a bodyguard though....
Very true. I was diagnosed with BPS (battered person syndrome) and AH reminds me alot of my ex and even after 6+ yrs some of what she says and specially those taps of her belittling JD trigger me. My heart rate goes through the roof I start to feel sick. I had/have a very hard time watching anything to do with her and this case.
Totally agree. It's hard to imagine her as a victim. But that's honestly how she feels.
Yes. Absolutely correct. 💜
I was told by my Dad that if you don't have something sensible to say don't say anything at all.
There's also a saying that goes something like this.
"Better to stay quiet and have people think you are stupid rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt"
And if you cannot say something nice about anyone, say nothing at all.
I'm an abuse survivor, and this Amber Heard interview irritated me intensely on every level! It took me several DECADES to be able to feel or say anything charitable in regard to my abuser(s), even with my Christian faith!
Also, in order to keep myself from living in the past so that my present is not ruined I have argued that I refuse to call myself a victim, but instead say that I was victimized. It was not, nor has it ever been a part of my thoughts or vernacular to think or say ANYTHING about what a "perfect victim" is. That's ridiculous and yes...insulting as Hades!!
Also, she appears to consistently want to prove that she's more educated and intellectually superior to those around her; however, what she states before and after any little zingers of "I know this but I bet you don't," tend to dispel any truth in her presumptions of superiority. I'm not trying to cast aspersions here.... But ya' know.
Thank you, Spidey, fit these excellent videos. And THANK YOU for being such a caring person!!
I’m a dv survivor and one of the BIGGEST signs to me that she was lying during her deposition, the trial and that interview was exactly what you said towards the end about the love she showed FOR him! Not only with her words of “I love Johnny! I loved him, I have no bad feelings or ill will towards him!” “Half of him is wonderful and beautiful…” etc but also with her facial expression’s while saying those words. NO DV survivor would EVER say/feel those things about their abuser!!! Especially when you’ve been out long enough that youre free from the Stockholm syndrome/manipulation! We feel nothing but utter disgust towards them, towards ourselves for being in that situation, for allowing it to happen for so long, for believing their manipulation and lies, for ever loving them! The thought of even giving them a loving gesture, touch, or praise grosses us out, can make us feel physically sick and uncomfortable, the thought that we even actually loved them and gave ourself to them and did/said/felt those nice things, grosses us out! Its also completely and utterly embarrassing! I actually get physically nauseous, I feel extremely embarrassed, disappointed and mad at myself, when I think back to that relationship! I feel grossed out that I even found him attractive in the first place! Like Johnny, we don’t want to be near them nor look at them! That, Amber, is why he doesn’t want to look at you! It’s not because “he’s guilty!” It’s because looking at your abuser, isn’t something that survivors want to do! We don’t want to hear them, see them, be near them… really, we don’t want to even remember their existence! Yes, it’s a late and long response but I felt/feel passionately about that trial and years later I’m still so happy Johnny won! Unlike what her and her team tried to insinuate, his win was actually a HUGE step forward for DV victims/survivors! It proves that men too can be victims but also that not every woman should be believed just because she’s a woman! Because, unfortunately, there are some sick individuals that will lie about DV for their own benefit! Whether it be for custody, publicity, sympathy, etc, it definitely happens! Aside from Amber, I’ve also seen that happen firsthand, to my cousin by his crazy ex! Yes, claims should always be heard but those claims need to be backed up with legitimate proof! And, unlike what ambers side also tried to claim that “Johnny winning shows us that DV victims will only be believed if they video tape themselves being beaten” (that one really pissed me off!!!) most of us have actual proof! From valid medical records, to messages, to police reports (sometimes from even the neighbors calling the cops) to actual witnesses… something that will actually back up what we say! Exactly like what Johnny had! REAL evidence!!! Just because she lost she immediately tried to say that the media swayed the jury which was such a bs cop out!! They weren’t swayed by the media, they were swayed by the actual evidence! Smh! I need to stop because I could write a novel about this! There’s SO many things I haven’t pointed out that I would LOVE to say but I already wrote a long comment I’m sure no one will read so…. Yea. I know this will probably go unread but man it always feels good to at least get the words out! It’s cathartic!
"I know I'm not the perfect victim"
Didn't she emphatically and angrily say in the trial, "I am NOT a victim. I have NEVER. Referred to myself as a victim."
I feel like the loss of the trial and the fact that all her lies were exposed has made her a real victim in her own eyes.
Surely she can get sued again for this interview?
She and her team made up the term “perfect victim” to make excuses for her inconsistent stories that contradicted themselves. “Sure, I bought him a knife, but that’s because I’m not the average / perfect victim.” “Sure, I begged him to come back after I got the restraining order, but that’s because I’m not the perfect victim.” They use it to cover up her lies. Shameful.
They swiped it from Law tube when Hogue said they’re going to have to rely on the “no perfect victim” argument.
Very shameful
Elaine alluded to this too in her interviews
It goes back to the recent past when it was automatic to talk about a woman's entire life history, right down to her choice of underwear, in lurid detail in open court when defending a man on a rape charge. I'm sure no one at the time could describe for you what a 'perfect victim' was, but they sure as hell knew an imperfect one when they saw it's red lacy knickers waved around in court.
I also saw her this on Twitter, her best friend using these terms. The same friend that used the term "scissors for fingers".
As an ER Nurse, her testimony during the trial and this interview are totally unbelievable! I have seen some very serious injuries. One woman jumped from a moving car to escape her abuser! Terrified to be anywhere that he might get to her again, asked the cops to take her to jail so she would be safe! Amber is done, will never work in Hollywood again!
She was a bad actress on the stand too IMO
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Finally it's here! YESSSSSSSSSS!
I feel very offensive she wanting to be a legal image of a 'survivor of a violence/domestic abuse .
It's getting on my nerves.
It was her descriptions of some of her supposed abuse that was what stuck out to me so much. She described abuse that would no doubt NEED medical treatment because of how bad it was.
Her testimony on when she claimed to have been thrown into shattered glass from alcohol bottles, where she was slipping and sliding on glass and blood, that was so fucking absurd. There is absolutely no way she went through that and didn't seek medical attention. She could have fucking died. Being impaled by a shit ton of glass(ALCOHOL COVERED GLASS) and was stuck in her own blood, that cannot be treated on your own, she would have been at risk for severe infection and/or bled out.
But she claimed to have taken two sleeping pills and fallen asleep afterwards. Doesn't describe cleaning herself, removing the glass, nothing. She has no medical records of it either. You CANNOT hide that type of damage to the human body. The scars that would be left behind would be there for years, but afterwards, she's spotted wearing revealing dresses, showing off her flawless legs, flawless back, arms, face, etc. And she's perfectly void of such injuries.
She can join her sis in the hospitality industry.
My abuse happened over 15 years ago and it still sticks with me to this day. In the way I still flinch when my husband (who has never laid a finger on me) reaches over my head to grab something from a shelf, to when I can become inconsolably upset just hearing or seeing abusive treatment on movies and tv. My abuser even passed away almost 3 years ago in a motorcycle accident and I still feel fear when I think about my past. Idc how much time will pass, I know I will never be the same because of it and that is something I will never be able to forgive him for. For the longest time I blamed myself for “allowing” myself to be in that position and most of my anger was toward myself and I put a lot of the blame on me, sometimes I still do. It has taken me many many years to understand that it wasn’t my fault and I didn’t deserve it. No one does. There is no doubt in my mind that AH does not truly believe she is a victim.
At one point she talks about this experience as being "the most humiliating and horrible thing I've ever been through..", adding, "I felt less than human." That really stood out to me since she wasn't referring to the abuse, but rather the backlash from the public. I would love to hear your opinion on the significance of this statement as I haven't heard anyone else bring this up. 🙏
I was waiting for his reaction to this too
She said that about the "trauma", the trial, and now the social media backlash
Yes
She hurt more from public humiliation than the alleged abuse.
Public shame is a killer for the Narcissist.
I think I remember her saying it in the trial taking about being abued… but I could be wrong
@@lesliekupchanko5001 Spot on.
“Did they lie in court?”
“I’m not here to call names”
Another deflection. She doesn’t want to answer the question, so she turns the action of telling a lie into a calling someone a liar.
Yet she called them paid minions and randos in another part of the interview.
After she call witnesses "randos" 😄 🤣
😂
Not calling them liars just saying what they said isn’t true.
Amber, untruths and lies are two words you CAN use synonymously….
@@KactusKM the juror's names are protected, not the witnesses. We already know all the witnesses' names. They were referring to the witnesses in that question
That point when she aligned herself with the interviewer rather than those who’ve been abused was really discordant for me before I watched any analysis & I’m lucky enough to have never experienced abuse. I feel extremely sorry for survivors who have this woman exploiting their suffering for her own agenda
We must remember the true intent of the narcissist…
Their sole purpose of doing any and everything is motivated by self serving results. This is an obvious and consistent facet in her exchanges-with little or no mention ever in gratitude, of what others have done for her. She maintains and demands all attention (good and bad) remains on her. If I only has a dollar for every time she says “I, me…”
Actually it's a fact that she experienced childhood abuse. However her self conception is as a non victim. So this is why she cannot place herself in this category with "weak" people even though she experienced this fear and terror as a child. Jm2c about that slip. It's "her truth", as she might put it.
Yes! As a domestic violence survivor, the statement she made post verdict made my blood boil.
The part when she tried to associate herself to one of us given that she’s a perpetrator of abuse angers me. And she claimed that the verdict set us back as a society, I think it has shown how much we have progressed as a civilization.
Now we know we should not only listen to the loudest cries in the room, but also to the silent suffers. Now we are ready to accept that anyone can be a victim no matter how seemingly unlikely they look. Now we are finally allowing victims to speak their truths.
That was such a remarkable and profound slip! I loved it!!
I actually think having a global example of an (Cluster B Personality Disorder) abuser will ultimately be helpful in describing the undescrible to people who just cannot understand otherwise.
She will be studied in psychology for decades to come. That infamy is the only fame she deserves.
@@user-ui2db4nc8r Unfortunately…if she is aware of that…she will relish in it. In the narc’s mind, all attention equates to the fueling source of being kept center stage. They are masters at manipulating negative attention, opposing behaviors, etc…and love having that control over the thoughts and emotions of others😑
The Edward Scissorhand thing enraged me!! So glad that you touched on that & so many other amazing points!!
I am a survivor of DV and SV, and a psychologist, and I will say this in reference to her saying she still loves him: In her case, for starters, I think the narcissism is so great, that she doesn't necessarily understand love in the same way we do. Its likely that to her, being "in love" is akin to what someone w/o her issues would experience as "enjoying having possession of". She probably loves Johnny the same way I love my Benz; in that I enjoy a number of things about it, but as vapid as it sounds, you enjoy the status of it etc. (Everyone w/ any manner of nice vehicle feels that way at least once or twice, I'm not a monster, its normal.) He is a big celebrity, wanted by many as evidenced by the herd of women outside the courthouse, etc etc. She probably would still "enjoy possessing" him in that way, and to her, thats love, bc she is likely unable to truly comprehend empathy, vulnerability, and other emotions necessary to love someone.
That said, from the survivor aspect, it would not be too terribly strange for someone to still love someone who perpetuated DV against them, for some of the same reasons they were still able to love them and desire being w/ them during the DV. There are entire books on the multitude of ways they manipulate your feelings and get in your head, and its not uncommon for those to linger. Its even *possible* when there is SV... That said, in the case of SV, to feel that way would typically require there to have been serious, SERIOUS emotional/personality issues in the victim prior to the SV occurring, causing that person to deal w/ the trauma by maintaining affection for the perpetrator. It is infinitely less likely that someone would claim to still love someone after instances of SV, and it goes to show just how image focused and truly shallow she is, as she clearly can't empathize w/ real victims enough to understand the flaw in her words; in my humble opinion she can't seem to empathize beyond how she might be coming off in any given moment.
Her ability to view situations as a whole or to act on much more than impulse is severely debilitated, from her childhood abuse most likely. Her father ran dog fighting rings -- thats sociopath behavior. She likely truly did have a very tough childhood, which is almost always the cause of this type of abhorrent behavior in adulthood. (I'm sure you're aware of this lol, I'm saying it to everyone else!)
Wow! Absolutely love this. Thank you so much for sharing your valuable expertise with us ❤️
Appreciate your insight, Jessica.
Thanks for your post. This is very eye opening for me. Jessica, you really bring up some excellent, excellent observations!
I didn't find her comment that she still loves his that terribly far fetched either. I used to work in DV and Rape Crisis Advocacy and while it's been number of years, I do recall a statistic a long the lines of victims will leave and return to their abuser up to EIGHT times before the leave for good. There are a multitude of factors that play into that, including the manipulation of feelings to which you refer, economics, children, pets, but also love. Those looking from the outside might not be able to understand how it can be love, but that's part the manipulation and isolation victims experience. So for a victim to say they still love their abuser for a while is not uncommon. Now, do I believe Amber is one of these such victims... nope. Victims' abuse is their most humiliating experience ever. Nothing will ever compare. And, victims don't give their abuser weapons as gifts. Ever. They just don't.
I have been wondering which parent is/was a narcissist because isn't learned behavior? Truly I don't know the answers to my questions?
The "perfect victim" line shows clearly that "victim" is just a role description for her, a tool she tries to wield for sympathy and in order to wield power. This is disgusting. My blood boils, and i am not even a victim
I'm not a victim of DV, but I am a victim of rape and honestly, no words on this planet can describe my rage towards her. There's just so much wrong with her, so much that not even 100,000 videos of amber analysis could even touch the surface of. Simultaneously, my heart also breaks for Johnny and for all the real "perfect victims" out there who are having to deal with all their own struggles resurfacing due to her actions.
I can actually understad this statement in the context of defending oneself in the court of public opinion or also in a legal court. If she feels constantly judged, she feels like she cant convince people she is a victim based on whether people like her or her own actions that make her unlikeable or harder to believe. I think she is acknowledging she is not a completely innocent victim, she did provocative and irresponsible things. I AM a victin of DV but if I ever had to go to court, I would also acknowledge that I was not completely innocent.
Secondly, I am SURE that her lawyers and PR people made it clear that she was not the "perfect" victim and they would have a harder time defending her based on some of her poor choices.
@@vanessaking8220 THIS! Thank u. I tried saying this in another video thread but got accused of being an Amber fan… But that’s not the case at all & what many ppl don’t know is that the word "perfect victim" is valid vocab and often used in many DV cases where the "victim" (the word victim isn’t used to describe oneself is a victim obv but unfortunately it’s part of the terminology & may be taken out of context by ppl not familiar with DV terms) ALSO abused the aggressor at some point during the relationship-usually bc they get fed up and retaliated NOT bc they are narcissists…
All in all I think Amber herself set many
dv survivors back bc now whenever a dv survivor uses the term "perfect victim" the masses will immediately associate that valid term with Amber and maybe even invalidate their experience, I mean if someone uses the same terms Amber does then clearly they are the narcissistic abuser & obviously they were inspired by her, right? …Wrong. Most ppl won’t know this tho. Ugh.
Thanks for nothing Amber🤦🏻♀️she’s the reason why we can’t have nice things
Acting
You might think she's full of it, but the evidence is clear that she isn't.
Johnny's bed was never the same.
That part where she says she's not a 'perfect victim' reminded me of when she lashed out at Camille and said 'I have never called myself a victim, nor would I'
Stay😭❤️
@@fairyuuqi ❣️❣️❣️
@@fairyuuqi there needs to be a stay pose emoji ❣️🥰
I’m also a survivor who had to hide from my abuser. This was over 11 years ago and I’m still afraid, my heart raise to the roof every time I see someone who looks just like him. It didn’t take long to feel the hatred after I successfully freed myself.
I can’t believe that ANYONE feels any kind of love for someone who has hurt them that much so that she tried to get a restraining order against her abuser?! That for me is a big lie, even if it’s an attempt to gain sympathy from others by showing that she’s the bigger person… I don’t know?
I think Amber was trying to ride the coattails of the "me, too" movement by lying and trying to decieve the public into believing her lies and gaining herself some more popularity and intrest in her career. It didn't work!!! Thank God!!!!!!!!
Savanna’s face this whole time is like “I hate my life, this woman is awful, this was a mistake”. It was interesting watching her face progress from somewhat neutral to a more clenched lower face as AH keeps lying and lying. Its probably even more irritating for Savanna since she’s a lawyer and can definitely see all the signs of AH lying and dodging her questions. It started to feel like a interrogation which is nice
I expected a soft ball game tbh, I didn't think she'd receive any push at all. The interviewer definitely deserves some praise.
@@jensenchavez265 But still, takes no accountability for anything and expects us all to believe her lies after we've all heard enough of them? What a piece of work!
Savannah did a good job. You could tell she was frustrated with Amber.
I 100 percent guarantee you she doesn't hate her life.
Don't project your self lol
This interview will benefit the interviewer what are you talking about???
You clearly dont know about an opportunity like this is ... she don't hate her life. She took an opportunity d.a.
@@DogSerious Yeah but I'm not talking about AH.
The "perfect victim" is the role she was and still is trying to play. And she's sad and angry that people didn't appreciate her efforts. There are many lines that she borrowed almost word by word from actually victims on trials. Which is beyond horrible.
Exactly! She must think... Man, i can act, so why didn't they believe me? They must be stupid.
Like Riahnna's testimony
Yes! She has found an identity to be.
didn’t she use the story from the movie “Bad Girl” in court ?
Exactly or she gets upset when it gets recognized and she gets called out for it.. How sick do you have to be to mimic someone else horrific DV/SA Story..
As a DV/SA survivor I just want to say THANK YOU 😊 Hearing her comments about the “perfect victim” or being a “good victim” made my blood boil. I read that as she is trying to present herself as the victim and trying to be “perfect” based on what she thinks a victim looks like. But none of us look the same or cope the same or have the same triggers. Thank you for making true victims feels seen regardless of what type of victim they are. I have cried, laughed, and screamed through my past traumas, and your passionate response to her words made me feel seen and validated. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion with all of us through this, and your compassion with discussing these topics means the world. ❤️
does having an affair make you imperfect victim? I don't think so. except the abuser(even before that affair), everyone would think that's fine. How about this? Imagine Rock and Batista are married and they physically abuse each other. one of them wins most of the time, let's say Rock wins. Who is the victim here? or imperfect victim
I agree 100%! Thank you for this well written comment ☺️
@@ischkumar424 I don’t think a perfect victim exists. I believe we are all out here doing our best to heal and move beyond what happened to us.
As someone who was in an abusive marriage, there are no winners in the fights. If the abusive is mutual, it’s difficult to say whose worst. Do we base it on who started the abuse or on who inflicted the most pain? There’s no winners and no perfect victims. Just people who manage to survive it and overcome it.
@@ashleyconrad7979 Do u mean abuser is also a victim and victim is also an abuser?
@@ischkumar424 that’s not for me to answer. Abuse comes in countless forms and it’s not my place to speak figuratively about someone else’s relationship.
I am an abuse survivor. Everything she said made me angry and upset. I truly feel in my heart that she is the biggest and worst liar. She wanted to join the conversation of the me too movement, not "lend her voice"... but to be included for notoriety. Perhaps, moreover, to be close to that side instead of the opposite one that she should have been on, like a murderer trying to help find the missing person he or she kidnapped and killed.
I guess it's possible to have loved the abuser, but to love him or her in present day and not wish any "ill will" towards them is a bit extreme- I feel it's another moment where she tried to paint herself in a positive light, as this all forgiving soul. That's just not real. Again, she's trying to take advantage of her viewers.
I appreciated the warning before her perfect victim comment. I wonder what a perfect victim looks like. What an awful thing to say. As a survivor, she is insinuating that I should look and act a certain way. Why? Very weird thing to say. The only thing that does make sense about that, is what you said in your video. Because she has an idea in her head of what a victim is "supposed to be" and she is trying to exemplify that. Shame on her.
Also, I know it's not discussed in this interview, but the recording where she said over and over "go ahead, tell the world you're an abused man", insinuating that no one would ever believe him, is so telling. Something similar was said to me as a child throughout years of abuse, by my abuser. She is the abuser and I'm glad she has been exposed as such. Johnny is the survivor and I'm so happy he prevailed.
Having had a sadistic narcissistic mother and a borderline sister, I feel enormous anger when I see and hear this interview with A. Heard. This woman would push a saint to the limit and I am full of admiration for J.Depp who, of course, sometimes made derogatory remarks but managed to keep his control and not get into the physical violence that it activated and provoked. This woman is just a monster for me, who deserves what she fears the most: indifference and exclusion.
Same...
I was so triggered it made me literally sick to my stomach....
The fact that he never got physical with her speaks to his character. I would never condone physical violence but everybody has their breaking point and Amber tried her hardest to push him to that point many times.
Liliane, I’m so sorry that you had to experience that. Those are painful relationships to navigate/survive.
In my experience: It’s the goal of someone struggling with a cluster B disorder to trigger you when they feel out of control themselves. It provides them that sense of control. If you don’t react, they up the ante, until they eventually “get you”. Then they often to flip it around.. “Look at you! You’re so crazy/angry/emotional!” It’s also almost like they are trying to turn you into an abuser to satisfy their victimhood. Reactive abuse is quite common in these relationships, and what I believe was happening in their’s.
@@ScienceisRadAF oh have I been there….well put…
I had a friend with BPD and Amber's behaviours are like deja vu. I never really considered that a man could suffer domestic abuse at the hands of a woman until I met this friend. In the time I knew her she had a couple of different boyfriends. She tended to attract (or seek) men who were dependent on her, then she would abuse them enough to drive them away, and later (sometimes on the same day) find some excuse to drag them back (for example, 'I'm having an asthma attack and I think I left my inhaler in your car', or 'I fell down the stairs, I need to go to hospital' or 'I'm pregnant with your twins and I think I'm having a miscarriage') and get her hooks in them again. I often tried to act as a buffer, thinking one day she would either do some real damage to one of the guys, or get them so wound up that they seriously hurt her. I'd tell the guys 'Don't go back there, you know what will happen. I'll sort out whatever she needs.' But they always went back. I knew she was a compulsive liar, because I so often caught the inconsistencies in her stories and I would call her out on them. She would deflect, just as Amber does. And when things got violent and the police got involved, they always favoured her version of events, no matter how far fetched. It infuriates me that someone thinks they can (and frequently do) get away with damaging another person like that. Not to mention misrepresenting people who are actually in danger because of or traumatised by abuse. They deserve an honest voice.
When I was very little 5-8 years old, I was SA and physically abused by my real father. Before I told my Momma, my parents got divorced. But, just hearing his voice over the phone, or smelling something that reminded me of him, had me freaking out! I felt as though my body was a shell and the real me was inside screaming and trying to run away, flee, fly, go anywhere from where I was! Granted my Mom had no clue, yet, but even the smell of certain items that were in my parents room had me wanting to crawl out of my skin....I'm 40 year's old now, and I still can't handle those same items! My Mom is such an amazing human being, she taught me the importance of forgiving...forgiving but never forgetting and to not allow someone else's actions define who I am, instead define who I am because of what happened (hope that makes sense). I learned to take his power for what he did to me and turn it around for myself! Many, many, years later I forgave my father for what he did, ONLY because I had to learn to move on with my life! Years and therapies later, he is not the same person he was when these things were happening. But I'll NEVER forget what he had done to me! Nor will I ever trust him again, and I now have two daughter's and he'll never be alone with either of them. Over my dead body!!
Hearing AH's last comment about her love for Johnny, it feels obsessive, creepy, manipulative, and not something that a individual who has gone through the amount of violence they claim to have, would say about their aggressor. It just doesn't make any sense.
PS - To all the survivors, family of survivors, and even to families of the aggressors (because you need support too!!) that commented on here, I am so sorry that you went through what you went through. It's heart breaking that there are individuals in this world that could actually inflict this kind of harm on anyone!! Doesn't matter why they did it, but just know, you all are never alone
I'm so sorry for what you went through.
She said in trial that she “NEVER CALLED HERSELF A VICTIM” yet in her interview she states she is “not the perfect victim”. Did anyone else catch this?
Good catch !
I did. !
Because she isn't a victim
She said the op Ed was not about Johnny in this interview. To me that is crazy because I thought all along the op ad was about Johnny!
She contradicts herself all the time! In her testimony she same the op-Ed was about Johnny…. But the interview it’s not. She says she’s not a victim but then talks about how she’s not the perfect victim…. Yes in trial she she I never want to be seen as a victim. She doesn’t know if she’s coming or going. Inconsistent, lying on lies. Not a good look. And I believe this interview made it all worse.
A Victim is a Victim. And knows how it feels and how to share her experience. A Victim doesn’t reach for understanding. Thank you for your video, analysing AH’s declarations and body language 🌿
I'm a survivor of SA. I watched the entire trial. I would never say that I still love my abuser. Never. The abuse that she alleged happened to her is severe. It's awful.
Putting evidence, or lack thereof aside, I noticed so many inconsistencies and behaviors that make no sense to me. She asserted authority over him on the stand. She said "he can't even look at me" as she stared at him from above. We heard several audio tapes of her taunting him. I can't imagine ever being able to do that to my abuser. When I think of what happened to me, and worse, when I've run into him a few times over the years (small town), I get immediately sick to my stomach, it's hard to breathe, and my CPTSD brain goes black. My body wants to run as far away from him as possible. I go through great lengths to avoid him. Always. Would I love to say that I could stand up to him? Sure. Has that ever been something in the realm of possibilities? Never.
On the other hand, what Johnny explained on the stand is something that aligns with my experience as a survivor of childhood A. He talks about having to placate her, pacify her, and leave or hide when it gets bad. We hear audio tapes of that, as well. As a victim, in my experience, you never want to anger the person consistently causing you harm over a long period of time. You will do anything to appease them and diffuse the threat. You retreat.
The inconsistencies with her testimony where she didn't take accountability for even the smallest accusations are maddening. She also ended up admitting, multiple times on the stand, that she wrote the op-ed about him! Now she's walking that back. Savannah Guthrie is right. Accountability and believability is so important in cases involving SA.I'm a survivor of SA. I watched the entire trial. I would never say that I still love my abuser. Never. The abuse that she alleged happened to her is severe.
Putting evidence or lack thereof side, I noticed so many inconsistencies and behaviors that make no sense to me. She asserted authority over him on the stand. She said "he can't even look at me" as she stared at him from above. We heard several audio tapes of her taunting him. I can't imagine ever being able to do that to my abuser. When I think of what happened to me, and worse, when I've run into him a few times over the years (small town), I get immediately sick to my stomach, it's hard to breathe, and my CPTSD brain goes black. My body wants to run as far away from him as possible. go through great lengths to avoid him. Always. Would I love to say that I could stand up to him? Sure. Has that ever been something in the realm of possibilities? Never.
On the other hand, what Johnny explained on the stand is something that aligns with my experience as a survivor of childhood A. He talks about having to placate her, pacify her, and leave or hide when it gets bad. We hear audio tapes of that, as well. As a victim, in my experience, you never want to anger the person consistently causing you harm over a long period of time. You will do anything to appease them and diffuse the threat. You retreat.
The inconsistencies with her testimony where she didn't take accountability for even the smallest accusations are maddening. She also ended up admitting, multiple times on the stand, that she wrote the op-ed about him! Now she's walking that back. Savannah Guthrie is right. Accountability and believability is so important in cases involving SA. It's often the only thing that we have after so many years. If you are constantly contradicting yourself, not taking accountability for the things that have been proven you have said and done, and adding in extra details, your credibility is gone.
People with CPTSD and PTSD do often forget details, and get things out of order because our brains have tried to save us from reliving that trauma. Even if you were able to fight back, all you need to do is tell the truth. With Amber, it's impossible to find the truth.
As always, thank you Spidey! 🖤
I am so glad you pointed out how huge the slip up was regarding the "like you and I" statement. It was driving me crazy that other channels seemed to not catch that or didn't realize just how profound the statement was. I'm a huge fan of your work. You never disappoint when you do a breakdown of someone. ✌️ 👱♀️❤️
YES I couldn't believe that... I was like.. Uhmm you're literally excusing yourself from being a victim, like you are just telling a story.
You're right. Other channels never picked up on you and I. But it leapt out at me.
Ok, so I haven’t gotten to that point in the video yet but, YESSS. That “you or I” thing really jumped out dramatically at me and I couldn’t believe it wasn’t discussed. It couldn’t be clearer that she did NOT experience what she was claiming to have experienced.
Same! I caught that and was like what?
and even if she had said, 'like you and I have now.' At least imply that back then you did not have the resources.
Good job showing concern for actual victims and allowing them to skip that part if needed. Good example of empathy 🙌
I am a survivor of SA and you’re on the money with everything you say!
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When i heard her say "i'm sorry i'm not a perfect victim" i felt my blood instantly boil. I've been abused throughout my entire childhood and the only people i've ever heard someone say anything similar to that was just one of my abusers telling me that because i didn't act the way they wanted or expected me to do, that i am not allowed to say or claim, even in diary, that i am hurt. Only later for that abuser to claim that they were the victim because i didn't act, react or do as they wanted and expected me to do. They claimed victimhood because that would discredit my pain i was so desperate for someone to see, help and understand as "being manipulative" and that's what that phrase tells me, "I'm sorry when i tried to claim to be the victim, i did it wrong and couldn't decieve you all again as well as i have before." After a comment like that, i don't believe that she should get an appeal. Like he said, she's clearly watched stuff online and i know in my gut that she's just learning what she did wrong and trying to learn to lie better and i don't want to see her reclaim the ego and self-proclaimed "power" she thought she had when everyone belived her.
If you haven't seen it yet, some reading on the concept of DARVO might be healing for you. Abuser's mind games are so sick, but I believe naming their tactics takes away some of their power. Wishing you love and light!
One of the things that came out of the trial that convinced me Amber was the abuser is when she told JD in that audio recording that he wasn't hurt. (after she punched him, or hit him) The argument over semantics was ridiculous. I hope you have been able to find your path back to you after all you have been through.
Yeah all of her recordings vs his recorders she acts drastically different. Hers portrays herself as a caring loving do no harm victim while his shows her true evil side. That’s such a big tell. If she was truly abused in the way she claims she was, his recordings of her would not have her talking to him the way she does.
What does she mean perfect victim..all I see from the trials JD was her perfect victim
God, I second this.
As an abuse survivor, this literally makes me nauseous! There are no “good or perfect” victims! She wants so bad to be seen as a victim but doesn’t want to be labeled as a victim. She makes absolutely no sense! Why would she need to lend her voice to a cultural conversation that she shouldn’t be part of? She seems so happy with herself. She likes to say that the OP-EP wasn’t about her and Johnnys relationship but she’s smirking the whole time. She just infuriates me! I would never say that I love, have no ill will or resentment towards my abuser! I despise him!
That wording bothered me too. I'd never say I "lend" my voice to something that I AM A PART OF. I lend my voice to my friends who are minorities to help them get heard - I'm not one, so I'm lending my voice to them, to their causes. I don't lend my voice to being a woman, or a mother, or a dog owner - I am all of those things. It's such a weird way to say it, lending her voice to a conversation.....because she wasn't actually a part of it?
She also admitted on the stand that she wrote the op Ed about Johnny, she’s just lying again
First she wasn't a victim, now she wasn't a perfect victim. Makes people who are victims feel belittled and used for the clout of a woman looking for something to cling to so she can be known as THAT person.
I have a theory about the op-ed and who it was about IF (heavy emphasis here) it was not about Johnny. But spidey has mentioned her “duping delight” face before.
So, playing the devils advocate for a moment.
What if the op-Ed was actually about a rich and powerful “secret” lover. But she is just letting everyone think it’s about Johnny, while in fact it was directed to someone else. Just not correcting anyone because it would be worse. That would cause some duping delight.
I'm also an abuse survivor and the part that actually caused the issues for me, was how she described her apparent abuser, I have 100% moved on and forward, but when I speak about my past abuse, even though its just a story now, my face is riddled with disgust and I do blame him, I'm just not angry about it anymore. I've just never spoken to someone in my life that has behaved this way towards a previous abuser.
When she says "you and I" to Savannah, I believe it's because her status and being above the "average person" is more important to her than being consistent with her abuse narrative. Shes a narc. Given the chance to push out superiority or the "truth", someone like her will pick superiority every single time.
It's truly insane how full of herself she can still be after all that.
an d saying you and I means it never happened to her
Yup yup
My exact thoughts, she’s saying they’re celebrities & we’re just rando peasants.
Right? There is twice there when she separates herself from the "average person". It's so uncomfortable.
As a survivor of emotional and psychological abuse, I have never once said I loved my ex or missed him. It’s soo extremely weird and uncomfortable that she says that. Usually abusers will say that about the person they abused while also trying to save face and say how much better they are without them.
Spidey, I appreciate so much your breakdown of this interview.
First, thank you for helping me think better of Savannah Guthrie. I was very irritated with her interview style because I felt like she was going too easy on Amber supporting her victim stance. But it helps to realize that she was trying to establish a rapport to get Amber to talk and to not make her shut down.
And secondly, I really appreciate your comment about actors not always acting. Because I get so tired of that comment by people saying 'Well, he's an actor', as though that's all he is, that's all he does, and he's not actually a human first. Why is it that people think actors act 24 hours a day, every day? They don't, it's their job. And I've seen enough interviews of Johnny Depp to realize that no, he was not acting on the stand. He got into a little bit into character when he was under cross exam, but I think that he kind of had to in order to deal with Rottenborn's aggression.
Anyway, thank you for your analysis of these interviews and all your other videos. 😁
I completely agree with your comment on actors and have said this before “they’ve been actors for a few decades, we’ve been human for hundreds of thousands of years” that wins lol.
@@TheBehavioralArts I believe I had trauma bonding with my ex abusive husband, I still loved him very much so, even after everything, but it's obvious this is not Amber Heard's case.
I thought the same thing about Johnny. That he was himself on the stand. You could also tell when it became too much and he would slide into one of his characters for a moment to give a quick funny answer so he could move on. She does not behave (it is not an 'act' Amber) like a person who has gone through abuse. She behaved like an abuser. Unrepentant and never wrong. It is you. If she could just find the right words, she could make you see that she is right and you are misguided, or wrong, or not remembering it correctly. There will always be people who believe the abuser. Even when they admit it. Anyway, that is all I am going to say about that. During the trial I really felt like she must be scanning social media (or her minions were) and using the information she found to "tweak" her 'victim of abuse' character. Now she is doing the same. Find out what everyone is saying and then you can figure out how you need to act to get them to believe you. I think she has done it most of her life, and doesn't understand why it doesn't work anymore. She is running on fear and anger. She is just going to keep this up until they don't give her the time of day anymore. All this is just the press junket for her latest show.
The same idea of actors not always acting also applies to teachers. I used to work with preschoolers and I can be incredibly patient at work, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t get impatient with people when I’m at home.
He was her husband.She said he Wes a character.He is a man.S H e sh I we'd him no respect.Laughing about 21Jump Street.He was working making over 4 th I usand dollars a week
I'm a survivor. This interview had me yelling at the walls in frustration. Putting myself in her shoes after she described her alleged abuse at the hands if her husband and then hear her say she still loves him and hold no ill will? No...sorry... that is not how it works. She really must believe that the general public is stupid to think we would believe this tripe.
Don’t worry. Next interview she will get this straightened out and say she hates him for chopping off her big toe.
I am also a survivor. Also do not believe really anything she says but I was in a very emotionally and physically abusive relationship with my ex husband for 7 years and I can still say I have love for him. I dislike (almost hate) the type of person he is but I still have love for him for some reason. We’ve been separated since 2014. He is a horrible father and partner but he was my first real boyfriend and for a long time he was my only friend (he made sure of that). He was the type that when things were good they were really good. He made me feel like the most special person in the world. But when they were bad they were really bad. And of course there were more bad times than good.
She’s OBVIOUSLY never been a victim of DV or SA. “I still love the man that raped me with a glass bottle.” How fucking ridiculous.
@@abigaillimbert6619 …as a wise person once said, “you can’t love a personality disorder - it’s like saying you love untreated diabetes.”
Me too. She's a manipulator and a user, using other people's misery to aggrandize herself. What an AH.
I’m a survivor of DV.
Amber saying “I love him.”, “I have no ill will towards him”, “I wish him the best”….her “text bombing” him to seek forgiveness and approval when he wasn’t answering her after a fight, her freaking out and arguing with him in the driveway for over an hour to keep him from walking inside to see his daughter, her frequent freaking out fits about him walking away to get some space in the middle of an argument, her inability to understand how to realistically ACT like a victim….and for her I do believe it is acting, but the fact that she got it so completely wrong, and the weeping/begging him to answer if he still loved her and if he would ever want to “be with her again”….the begging through tears to “just hug me,” “just hold me” after she filed for divorce and the TRO…. Those are not things I’ve ever done or seen any other DV survivors do….. but I sure have experienced my abuser doing them and I’ve witnessed other abusers doing them.
And her little contemptuous half snarl?…. It seems like she only gets that when she’s talking about either Johnny, Camille, his witnesses and most especially the jurors.
She needs to shut up and get help. I cannot understand how no one has told her she is screwed up.
So true .. well said .. hope your on a kinder path now .. 🤗
@@Eiramoiv Well, Johnny tried, she is relentless though, and I am sure she wore him down to point of depression.
@@Eiramoiv Amber doesnt take advice ... because she is THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE ... in her own mind.
Spot on! Her desperate attempts to get back in control when he 'walks away' is an abusers typical behaviour. Weeping to get you back, and so on. So well said by you.
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I'm a long time DV survivor! I'm sorry, but, I was anxious watching her testimony to where I had to quit watching the whole thing. I would squirm, clench my fists until they hurt and at night found myself tossing and turning thinking how mad I was over the whole thing. She made being a survivor a joke! When she was on that stand after taking taking an oath of truth all she kept doing was lie. Her lack of tears said it all. She acted her last, she had an audience and put it on BIG time! My heart hurt for all the survivors watching this crap.
I was the same, as a DV survivor, Amber triggered me so horribly. She is SUCH A LIAR! I just want her in jail, not only for the abuse she perpetuated on Mr Depp but also for the DAMAGE she has done to survivors 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Just LEAVE the world alone Amber, give your daughter to her father to raise and crawl back under a rock where you belong!
I’m so sorry dear that all this has brought so much pain to you! It’s awful that she keeps doing this in the name of “fellow DV survivors” I wish she had followed through with her original plan to just spend time with her daughter but as we know how narcissistic people work she needs to keep the attention on her and her pain relevant regardless of how many others she is hurting in the process. Try keep your head up and know you have people who love you!
I am so sorry to you and all survivors of abuse, I can't imagine how angry and triggered I would be😔 she has hurt all legitimate survivors with her performance on the stand. The sad part is, she really thinks she's a victim and will stand behind her story till she's in the ground!
Yes, thank you! I thought I was the only one who had trouble getting to sleep at night after listening to her during the trial. She wouldn't even be able to portray a victim in a movie because her acting is so forced and contrived. I just pray that she'll go away soon so we don't have to look at her or hear her voice anymore!
@@irenaschulz2286 I totally agree. I'm tired of seeing youtubers cover her and the news, don't get me started on them. You don't see Johnny doing interviews. Here's to many sleep filled nights! 😴
When Amber changed the locks on the penthouse then had James Franco over, I knew she’d never been abused. No abuse victim would attempt that! I’m still scared to death of my ex, who was physically abusive. I moved over 20 years ago to another city, across the country, and for years had unlisted address / phone number so that he had no clue where I was. Abuse victims will leave with NOTHING and not care as long as they can get away. You can tell Amber isn’t afraid of JD. In the last tape of them together, she’s saying she wants a hug from him! She still wanted to stay in his penthouse! She’s not afraid of being around him.
Right, cause she was never the victim.
No victim would want to stay near the abuser! One leaves town and country if necessary - you are so right!
I know exactly how you feel. I agree.
Yes and it was HIS FLAT! can you imagine the results that’d incur if Johnny was really abusive?!
No shit… Did you see how she was staring him down throughout the trail, snoring and smirking almost every time the cameras on her except when she was on the stand! Sickening. Anyone who has been abused knows very well these tactics and move the only abusers do.
THANK YOU for this! As an abuse survivor, the whole trial was upsetting & triggering for me but I couldn't stop watching it. She made me so upset that even my therapist told me to stop. "No ill will or hard feelings"?!? After 20 yrs., I'm STILL angry at my ex. The fact that he got away with it & is living a happy life while I'm still in physical pain makes me hate him even more!
Same! And worse for me. He was on drugs and now he's clean. He says he doesn't remember what he did. So I am carrying this burden of my abuse alone.
As an abuser survivor myself. Forgiveness is a wonderful thing. I had to forgive myself and my abusers. I gave it to God .. I have been able to go on. It's not easy. But it is freeing.
@@reneeg4817 beautiful and true. The only way to find freedom is forgiveness. They still have to face their maker one day wether or not we forgive. But if we forgive we can live in freedom from the burden ❤️
Precisely! Lol you wouldn't be fawning over how great things were
@@reneeg4817
I'm glad you could forgive for yourself. I've been able to do the same though it's an ongoing process as much has come up with my toxic family recently.
The work is worth it.
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I was in a very toxic and mentally abusive “relationship” (I say relationship in quotes bc we were never official) so her saying “I loved him” and changing it to “I love him” was not only inconsistent, it made no sense! When I ended the situation I had a long road of healing and I still am! The fact that she thinks it’s ok to say things like “I’m not the perfect victim” is not only insulting it’s ridiculous! When I ended the situation, I was angry and felt humiliated that I could fall for some trap!