Pro Tip : Merge Conscripts into your flamer engineer to maximize it's on field time and damage. Also, you can delay your 2nd sweeper engi until after the 3rd or 4th Conscript, you only want the sweeper when the T70 is about to come out, this timing also allows the engi to begin construction of T2 as soon as it comes out, rather than having to force retreat an engi squad from the field to do this. 13-19 minutes is a bit late for a T-34/76. 11-12 minutes is more like it. 13-19 minutes is timing for T-34/85 or M4C. If you do not see a Pz IV after your T-34/76 or medium comes out, or around 15 minutes, immediately queue an SU-85 because it's extremely likely he's going for a Panther, which can ruin your vehicles if you let it run around uncontested. Otherwise, if you have 2x fuel control you might want to consider a Katyusha to counter team weapon spam.
1) I mentioned the merge tip in the video. 2) You're not going to get an 11-12 minute T-34 unless you skip T70 or you have double fuel for much of the game. I watched a lot of videos of 1v1s from top players to research the timings for this video and anybody who goes T70 takes AT LEAST 13-14 minutes to get their T34 in an evenly-matched game, sometimes much longer if fuel is being contested. To convince you, let's look at it mathematically. On a 1v1 map, 50/50 territory control generally yields 26 fuel per minute. The total fuel required to build a T-70 and then a T-34 is 365 (this includes all buildings + conscript grenades). 365/26 = ~ 14. So in a world where both players have equal fuel control the entire time (extremely unlikely) it will take 14 minutes to get a T34.
For a t70, you can start 4 cons + guards now that t3 is cheaper. 3 cons for quad m5. Great vid!! Also I believe it is super important to consider if you are up against ost or okw to choose when you get your zis or guards, since ost's 222 comes at 5min, okw's flak or Luchs a 6-7min, but then ost's p4 not until 13-14min
This is really great video. This build order is totally new to me, I am gonna try it. I usually depend mostly on the tier 1 units of the sniper camp, with penals and snipers, so going into battle without them already seems weird to me. You could make a video about mines, explaining how and when to place them.
T-70 is the best light tank. Shoots fast and has good splash damage against infantry unlike Stuart or Scout Car. The only advantage Stuart and Scout Car have is a little bit more damage against vehicles and their abilities which in Stuart's case even harder to utilize. When I play I don't really need anti tank capability for my light tanks. I need to wipe infantry and T-70 does the best
For 1v1s probably not necessary. If you REALLY want you could probably get a 120mm mortar instead of elite infantry. Down to personal preference. If you wanted to use this build in team games a mortar would definitely be helpful. You could replace one of the conscripts with a small mortar, or the elite infantry with the 120mm mortar.
Why build the second engie so early? I feel like you get a lot more bang for your buck if you go for the conscripts earlier and then buy the grenade package after. This lets your conscripts contest light vehicle aggression since they'll be able to snare them faster Edit: I guess it does let you lay mines while still having your conscript on the front. That makes sense.
Returning player here, big thanks for the tips. I also have a question. Do guard rifle intel bulletins work on assault guard and airborne guard? Back in the day I played coh2(about 2-3years ago, I guess) I didnt remember these 2 units exist.
Great video. I am struggling as a new player only 30 hours and 11 pvp games ( most other are vs friends or bots ) . I even beat players with 200+ hours on the early game but as soon as 15th minute or smth hits ( Im about 350 vps to their 100vps ) I just get DESTROYED by enemy infantry and german tanks. No matter what I do early on I get ruined late game. Any tips ?
Denying their fuel is more important than early victory points. Rely more on your AT guns against their Panzer 4s more than your T34s.... T34s really underperform against P4s but they're great against infantry. I also have a whole playlist of quick tips :)
@@Papasiak You can hit me up on discord Gonk#2765 I'm not a top or pro level player, by the way; just like to help newer players out with my modest knowledge of the game!
This would be OK in team games, but you'll probably need a mortar as well. Soviet's have a very tough time if they're up against WM in their lane on team maps.
You mean the video background? Just took a video of the game with the menu turned transparent (there's a slider on the bottom of the menu that allows you to do this)
Hey new player here! Well these videos help a lot but I’m still lost I’m multiplayer matches, sometimes I loose way to much ground because the enemy overrun my infantry with a shit ton of his infantry, this mostly happens at team games, but I guess I should play just 1vs1 or 2vs2, seems more manageable
@@GonkOrange Ok, I’ll try playing with soviets in 1vs1, or okw, I really like COH2, and maybe I’ll get COH3 when it gets on sale, as it was what got me into rts games
Pro Tip : Merge Conscripts into your flamer engineer to maximize it's on field time and damage.
Also, you can delay your 2nd sweeper engi until after the 3rd or 4th Conscript, you only want the sweeper when the T70 is about to come out, this timing also allows the engi to begin construction of T2 as soon as it comes out, rather than having to force retreat an engi squad from the field to do this.
13-19 minutes is a bit late for a T-34/76. 11-12 minutes is more like it.
13-19 minutes is timing for T-34/85 or M4C.
If you do not see a Pz IV after your T-34/76 or medium comes out, or around 15 minutes, immediately queue an SU-85 because it's extremely likely he's going for a Panther, which can ruin your vehicles if you let it run around uncontested. Otherwise, if you have 2x fuel control you might want to consider a Katyusha to counter team weapon spam.
1) I mentioned the merge tip in the video.
2) You're not going to get an 11-12 minute T-34 unless you skip T70 or you have double fuel for much of the game. I watched a lot of videos of 1v1s from top players to research the timings for this video and anybody who goes T70 takes AT LEAST 13-14 minutes to get their T34 in an evenly-matched game, sometimes much longer if fuel is being contested.
To convince you, let's look at it mathematically. On a 1v1 map, 50/50 territory control generally yields 26 fuel per minute. The total fuel required to build a T-70 and then a T-34 is 365 (this includes all buildings + conscript grenades). 365/26 = ~ 14. So in a world where both players have equal fuel control the entire time (extremely unlikely) it will take 14 minutes to get a T34.
this is what we need! a clear beginners guide
For a t70, you can start 4 cons + guards now that t3 is cheaper. 3 cons for quad m5. Great vid!! Also I believe it is super important to consider if you are up against ost or okw to choose when you get your zis or guards, since ost's 222 comes at 5min, okw's flak or Luchs a 6-7min, but then ost's p4 not until 13-14min
This is really great video. This build order is totally new to me, I am gonna try it. I usually depend mostly on the tier 1 units of the sniper camp, with penals and snipers, so going into battle without them already seems weird to me.
You could make a video about mines, explaining how and when to place them.
Good luck with it! I hope it serves you well!
I do have a video about mines in the works.. it's taking a while though
T-70 is the best light tank. Shoots fast and has good splash damage against infantry unlike Stuart or Scout Car. The only advantage Stuart and Scout Car have is a little bit more damage against vehicles and their abilities which in Stuart's case even harder to utilize. When I play I don't really need anti tank capability for my light tanks. I need to wipe infantry and T-70 does the best
Thanks for the great video!
I hope it was helpful! :)
one thing it's kinda quiet hope later videos are mixed louder
What bulletins do you recommend for this build order?
Great vid BTW!
Conscript accuracy, conscript cooldown, zis build speed. I forget the exact names.
Bro in which situation u go penals with car and sniper?
what about heavy mortars/mortars or mg's?
For 1v1s probably not necessary. If you REALLY want you could probably get a 120mm mortar instead of elite infantry. Down to personal preference.
If you wanted to use this build in team games a mortar would definitely be helpful. You could replace one of the conscripts with a small mortar, or the elite infantry with the 120mm mortar.
Why build the second engie so early? I feel like you get a lot more bang for your buck if you go for the conscripts earlier and then buy the grenade package after.
This lets your conscripts contest light vehicle aggression since they'll be able to snare them faster
Edit: I guess it does let you lay mines while still having your conscript on the front. That makes sense.
Good stuff!
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thanks babe
Nice
🧡 thanks. Big love.
Thank you =)
You are welcome ;)
Returning player here, big thanks for the tips. I also have a question. Do guard rifle intel bulletins work on assault guard and airborne guard? Back in the day I played coh2(about 2-3years ago, I guess) I didnt remember these 2 units exist.
Hi! About the bulletins, I'm not 100 %sure, but probably not.
@@GonkOrange I see, thanks for the reply ^^
Awesome video thank you so much :)
Glad you liked it! Hopefully will be doing more build orders in the near future if I can find the time!
Great video. I am struggling as a new player only 30 hours and 11 pvp games ( most other are vs friends or bots ) . I even beat players with 200+ hours on the early game but as soon as 15th minute or smth hits ( Im about 350 vps to their 100vps ) I just get DESTROYED by enemy infantry and german tanks. No matter what I do early on I get ruined late game. Any tips ?
Denying their fuel is more important than early victory points.
Rely more on your AT guns against their Panzer 4s more than your T34s.... T34s really underperform against P4s but they're great against infantry.
I also have a whole playlist of quick tips :)
@@GonkOrange I watched most if not all of them, you're great help. Is it ok if I send you a replay sometime so that you can tell me how to improve ?
@@Papasiak You can hit me up on discord Gonk#2765
I'm not a top or pro level player, by the way; just like to help newer players out with my modest knowledge of the game!
@@GonkOrange Thanks a ton !
What about team games?
This would be OK in team games, but you'll probably need a mortar as well. Soviet's have a very tough time if they're up against WM in their lane on team maps.
How do you do the coh2 soviet theme ?
You mean the video background? Just took a video of the game with the menu turned transparent (there's a slider on the bottom of the menu that allows you to do this)
@@GonkOrange Thx Man
Bien!
Hey new player here! Well these videos help a lot but I’m still lost I’m multiplayer matches, sometimes I loose way to much ground because the enemy overrun my infantry with a shit ton of his infantry, this mostly happens at team games, but I guess I should play just 1vs1 or 2vs2, seems more manageable
Yeah you won't get better by playing 3v3 and 4v4.
Solo is the way, then you can try out 2v2s
@@GonkOrange Ok, I’ll try playing with soviets in 1vs1, or okw, I really like COH2, and maybe I’ll get COH3 when it gets on sale, as it was what got me into rts games
@@Itz_just_VICTOR I have a couple OKW build orders as well, check them out!
Good luck
@@GonkOrange thanks!
Do this for all sturmtruppen commanders 👍
I'm going to do a general WM build order in the near future. Have all the info worked out just need to some in-game shots.
Outdated? I lost every game using this build order
I like penals more
Ok