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  • A guide for Company of Heroes 2 covering a different starting build order for Ostheer (Wehrmacht)
    00:00 Intro
    00:25 Starting Build
    01:57 Early Tactics
    04:04 Jaeger Infantry variation
    05:05 Ambush camouflage
    07:01 Other Jaeger Infantry Abilities
    07:56 Jaeger Infantry mid game
    08:46 Jaeger Infantry late game
    09:47 Storm Commander
    10:13 German Infantry variation
    12:58 250 Half Track
    15:10 German Infantry Mid Game
    15:20 Stormtroopers
    20:16 German Infantry Late Game
    20:28 Elite Troops variation
    20:40 Double 222s
    23:16 Stun Nades
    23:49 G43s
    24:18 Tiger Ace
    24:36 Summary
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  • @CHEESENSPIEL
    @CHEESENSPIEL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Shoutout to the gunner at 12:47 who gets yeeted

  • @Orangepest
    @Orangepest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    This is the build that got me to top 5!

    • @tightropegaming
      @tightropegaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Proven results

    • @jamesjamozo6964
      @jamesjamozo6964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      which variation of the build did you use?

    • @mikkel066h
      @mikkel066h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesjamozo6964 Play and see. You will figure out what suits your playstyle best. For me I usually go for the Ostwind first, to deal good dps against infantry and have the paks deal with tanks.

  • @adrianleung2454
    @adrianleung2454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This is an absolute godsend for people who structure Pgren builds or (god forbid) sturmtruppen builds. Many thanks!

    • @dragonfell5078
      @dragonfell5078 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As someone who recently started playing and loves the idea of stormtroopers.... Yes, this will be great for making it work

  • @solaufein1374
    @solaufein1374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I must say i adopted this build order from one of your 1v1 videos and using it since. This guide will help me further.

  • @piajibxp5049
    @piajibxp5049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is literally the best COH2 build vid.

  • @Rynhelms
    @Rynhelms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Absolute craic of a video. Thanks Tightrope.

  • @albertosara416
    @albertosara416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    finally a guide for this amazing build order you've been using for a while now!
    great video!

  • @GonkOrange
    @GonkOrange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really thorough and educational video! Thanks so much

  • @JohnPeng09
    @JohnPeng09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So detailed and so well explained, keep up the good work, mate

  • @Ronnie_Z
    @Ronnie_Z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this. Your knowledge is incredible I feel like a better player already just after watching your video. Can't wait to try out these tactics

  • @cyberpunkfalangist2899
    @cyberpunkfalangist2899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this build and have been finding a lot of success with it. All the speed of OKW but with the support equipment of ost. Pairing it with encirclement doctrine is pretty fun, too, since the breakthrough tactics enable your panzers to wipe infantry and vehicles at lightning speed as the panzer grenadiers storm through the gap.

  • @martinschmitz9824
    @martinschmitz9824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Easily one of the best coh2 guides of all time! Well done! Greets, Smartie

  • @philipphacker6394
    @philipphacker6394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thanks Tightrope! I just recently discovered your channel and i am blown away of your quality content! Keep it up and I hope you get a viewer boost with CoH3. One little request i would have. Once in a while, i would love to see a equvalent of a LoL (low elo legend). I am myself just a casual gamer and would be nice to see how average players play and learn from it.

    • @tightropegaming
      @tightropegaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If you become a Patreon backer at the $15+ tier you can submit a replay and request me to cover it in that style.

    • @philipphacker6394
      @philipphacker6394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tightropegaming I might just do that! 👍

  • @rainbowstarunicornprincess4391
    @rainbowstarunicornprincess4391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent vid, thanks tr. Nice graphics in the beginning as well. Can tell you had fun with those.

  • @popola9466
    @popola9466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tightrope thank you for amazing videos such as these and your FPV games. I tried this build and won 6 out of 7 games today you truly are a wonder in this community and can't wait to see what you come with in CoH3.

  • @tiochocmanbananaespinoza7278
    @tiochocmanbananaespinoza7278 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG I thought this was an older video, this has helped me so much, thank you so much Tight!!! :D

  • @KingBoatshoe
    @KingBoatshoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Especially appreciate the Stormtrooper details

  • @beauonpc
    @beauonpc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome sauce as usual mate. Quality content like no other.

  • @rolandhunter
    @rolandhunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good advices! Thank you!

  • @oussb7660
    @oussb7660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks tightrope for the effort.

  • @Mr.barba97
    @Mr.barba97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro the production value is over the top!!

  • @mkhatame86
    @mkhatame86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video ❤

  • @themetallurgist3541
    @themetallurgist3541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As someone who makes COH2 content, I want to appreciate the time and effort that you put on these videos (even shitpost that I make take a lot of time, I don't know how much did you spend on this:) ).
    BTW, You are not only making TH-cam content but also changing how players play the game (as you did with that Royal engineer build).

  • @deno202
    @deno202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of best builds in 1v1 and 2v2. Hardly ever works in 4v4's and 3v3's, since almost every allies makes 1-2 mortars from the start :)

  • @timdavis2459
    @timdavis2459 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant guide 👍

  • @WhitefairyDeTV
    @WhitefairyDeTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great. I pretty much need this for every commander in all the factions 😆

  • @NoBr4iN
    @NoBr4iN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best way to go to bed is to a tightrope video

  • @jedenasty2226
    @jedenasty2226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Double 222 has smoke. You can always fall back with one 222 using smoke, therefore keeping both vehicles alive

  • @RainyCloudCore
    @RainyCloudCore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great intro

  • @martpd2
    @martpd2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need more of these tutorials! Preferably for OKW or USF :D

    • @123dodo4
      @123dodo4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      OKW is kinda the same as Wehrmacht except bad start. Its getting good during mid to end game tho but the way OKW treated most times is a strong support

  • @francispaniagua4228
    @francispaniagua4228 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, it's my third video on this channel, I have less than 100 games on CoH2 at the moment, loving your content!! Very good work on every video.

    • @tightropegaming
      @tightropegaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, I hope you enjoy your time with the game

  • @adri_9896
    @adri_9896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!!

  • @nachexrocker
    @nachexrocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @tightrope I want to point something that I believe was missed in this guide.
    Stormtroopers bobytrap ability works very well to do wipes when combo with the tactical advance.
    I think that encirclement doctrine is a valid option for this build since you have the ambush training and the stormtroopers have the ability (as well as other infantry) to sprint and this makes the close rage engagement with them much more easy. Also, close the pocket ability could be devastating to unaware enemies or to simcity strategies

    • @tazzioboca
      @tazzioboca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've tried encirclement many times before. The problem with it is that it really lacks viable options to deal with an opponent that knows what is doing. Close the pocket is not only a very expensive ability, it is not always reliable like frag bombs or lab.

    • @R0bertRodriguez
      @R0bertRodriguez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As much as I love encirclement the only thing it has over other similar doctrines is that Stormtroopers can sprint, meaning they can close the gap really quickly- But that's about it though.

    • @nachexrocker
      @nachexrocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree with you both @Tazzio and @Robert and even more for 1v1, encirclement doctrine is better in team games, very difficult to do and a lot of times not worth it.
      However, I still think that is a valid option to go if doing this build order. Think about this, if you manage to keep the 222 alive and use the breaktrough ability to cap the cut off very fast, and drop the close the pocket... even if you don't do much damage, you still have a lot of map control after, possibly a support weapon to steal and combine with an ambush with pgrens or stormtroopers when the enemy comes out of his base again.

    • @tazzioboca
      @tazzioboca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nachexrocker I can't tell the amount of games I lost on 1v1 with this sort of wishful thinking lol.

    • @R0bertRodriguez
      @R0bertRodriguez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nachexrocker Close the Pocket is still very situational and, truth be told, pretty underwhelming and too much of a gamble. Sometimes 3 stuka bombs will land on your enemies Team weapons... Sometimes those 3 stuka bombs will land on your teammates' 5 vet volks (Unfortunately more common than you think)
      Breakthrough is easily the most overlooked aspect of encirclement though. Fuel cost means munis to spend elsewhere, and 60 seconds of max-speed for every vehicle + super-fast decap can be game changing.

  • @AbyRemy
    @AbyRemy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my God I played this build alot in when the game first came out and it was bad with 3 mens on MG's and 2 in the soviet snipers, but when I tried it now I killed 3 snipers, 2 scout cars and put a stop to their penal trop hordes, thanks man this made my day.

  • @forgiven88
    @forgiven88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @jedenasty2226
    @jedenasty2226 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol, that's almost exactly the build I created lately, but with MG first, so i can capture crucial forward capture point and then absolutely block it from taking. Didn't know tho, that MG takes 17 seconds more to build, nice to know that.

  • @charmingdog2987
    @charmingdog2987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Noice thanks for the tip

  • @R0bertRodriguez
    @R0bertRodriguez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I'll be sure to use these... Wehrmacht gameplay has felt a bit stale as of late

  • @gordon9828
    @gordon9828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nive video tightrope, I always use this kind of build even before this video, but my version is a bit different so I'm gonna show u some my own style of this kind of build.
    Jäger
    Petty much like tightrope build order, but I will replace either the 222 for a halftrack since Pgren work very well with it, or a pak for a mortar just for smoke and harass the support weapons. I don't really go for Gewehr 43 ugrade since I find not really suited for my aggressive play style. I never even bother tier 4 because all of the vehicles in tier 4 sucks at 1v1 most of the time. If I'm ahead in terms of fuel, I will rush out an Ostwind to pressure everything until their tank hits, then I will get Panzer 4 or Stug depending on what kind of Medium armor he have. Quite a solid doctrine if u ask me.
    Storm
    This doctrine is not satisfactory tbh, sure it have Stuka dive, but honestly there other measure that a just more cost efficient.
    Infantry
    Again pretty much like tightrope build, and again same thing what I said on the my own build order and late game build, probably my most used doctrine because it just skyrocket your Pgrens in terms utility and Pioneer's repair speed. Personally I prefer fragmentation strike over light artillery barrage because it kills infantry much faster and can potentially disrupt enemy vehicles.
    Mechanized
    Again like tightrope build, and again what I just said earlier on my build order and late game build. Another solid doctrine so yeah.
    Elite
    Again same thing on tightrope build and what I said earlier on never upgrade my Pgrens, and also Stormtroopers with Gewehr 43. As for the Tiger tank, I only go for it if I'm just playing the game for pure style or just to annoy my opponent since at vet 2 it gain more sight range and it has spearhead ability, making closing the Tiger tank near impossible without getting spotted first by it. Overall a fun one, more flashier stuff going on this doctrine.
    U can use my own little variation of build order, so go ahead and have fun.

  • @picklesusa3449
    @picklesusa3449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do one for a couple USF commanders. Like airborne or urban assault.

  • @belbegortrnka430
    @belbegortrnka430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    pls you will be made video on OKW :))thx nice video

  • @El_Tanque_
    @El_Tanque_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i always play like this

  • @imanengineer10
    @imanengineer10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Double-Double is hanged heavily to obtain 2+ Panzergrenadiers or not.

  • @CommanderTavos99
    @CommanderTavos99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can u zoom out so far? o.O

  • @jackobrien47
    @jackobrien47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow ive been watching your coh2 match commentaries and i had no idea you made these in depth guides. Ive wanted videos like this ever since i first played the coh1 demo and noticed there is just so much going on under the hood that the game never tells you.
    Do you have one on the effects that recrewing team weapons has on the crewing infantry? I know people generally use cheap infantry but ive never understood why crewing an mg with obers wouldn't be a good idea since you have 3 elite infantry protecting the gun and killing the suppressed infantry off from long range. So do they lose all their stats or not? Nobody seems to know

    • @jackobrien47
      @jackobrien47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also when i heard your accent i always assumed you were maori lol

  • @tedarcher9120
    @tedarcher9120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have played this bo for 4 years now

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But I usually go 2 pgrens

  • @hanneskr97
    @hanneskr97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dont forget the mobile mg platform of the 250
    u can use this even later in the game if needed and to reinforce

    • @rustyshackleford9637
      @rustyshackleford9637 ปีที่แล้ว

      it seems like everyone forgets that you can hull down the 250 and then its MG42 suppresses just like a bunker.

  • @ReiP95
    @ReiP95 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well my usual is 1 eng 2 mg 1 mg then tech... But sometime i go 1 eng 3 mg so I can hold vic point fuel point and I have 1 mg to cover the flanked mg

  • @GeeNo_
    @GeeNo_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully more people use this build so I can get a double M20 USF build working xD

    • @tightropegaming
      @tightropegaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Be careful the 222 arrives very fast

  • @flame-kun
    @flame-kun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the G43 upgrade after MP40:
    Sometimes after the upgrade if you lose the model carrying G43, it will be replaced with MP40 model.

    • @tightropegaming
      @tightropegaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think I have ever seen that happen, in fact once the model carrying the mp40 dies it gets replaced by a KAR98

    • @flame-kun
      @flame-kun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tightropegaming Huh that's weird. I must be mistaken. Either way it's still a weird interaction.

  • @henryhamilton4087
    @henryhamilton4087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about Pzgren with Shrecks instead of a PaK??

    • @tightropegaming
      @tightropegaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The issue with pgrens is that they only have 35 range and players at the higher levels are very good at exploiting that so they usually aren't very effective.

    • @MrCGangsta
      @MrCGangsta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      schreks suck at max range and u get random hits pak is much stronger with further range 2 of those will melt tanks also 100 munitions is a lot panzers are also very good v infantry with 2 schrecks they are only half as good

  • @bq1013
    @bq1013 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engie, mg42, mortar, second mg42. It either wins a game or loses it in the first 7mins

  • @beefyblom
    @beefyblom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:08 what really annoys me about this is that the model in the icon *is* a panzergrenadier

  • @el.wer95
    @el.wer95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bulletin?

  • @stevhao8420
    @stevhao8420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in the first company of heroes. I would spam 3 pioneers and 2 mg teams as Wehrmacht and just buy the support infantry veterancy instead of getting volks while skipping straight to normal grenadiers and knights' cross holders as core infantry. Man, I miss knights' cross holders.

  • @user-wx1iv1fw3d
    @user-wx1iv1fw3d 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    222或是說 德軍的20mm 機砲真的傷害太低了,有穿跟沒有穿透 傷害少到看不出來

  • @AR-GuidesAndMore
    @AR-GuidesAndMore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played this game years ago i was about average but i used a similar build, because i found it was funny to pin down enemies and rush them with Pioneers.

  • @ahmedshokry5729
    @ahmedshokry5729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see a lot of allies meta , unlike axis

  • @MrCGangsta
    @MrCGangsta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I go no mg lately since every1 is expecting mg´s 3 sturms/volks work better for me I rather have a sniper then an mg

  • @internettroll1985
    @internettroll1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hosttrupers are useless for me or me 🤣

  • @surawat3221
    @surawat3221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    tank not have "gunner killed" not real game

  • @user-wx1iv1fw3d
    @user-wx1iv1fw3d 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:35 這就錯了,這火炮是7.5cm打得,威力跟範圍弱的好可憐,而且也不快,往往丟下去 整組武器班死不了人都是會發生的

  • @choosesteak5642
    @choosesteak5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy the money that you get from Google Premium for me watching all of your videos, you deserve it champ. I'd pay to see you play PUBG :)

    • @tightropegaming
      @tightropegaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/rm0ZqlDjauw/w-d-xo.html
      The bitrate was quite low back then, this was also pre first person. I don't play anymore though.