How Did Greek City-States Work?
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- The ancient Greeks were divided into over 1,000 different city-states, from the bustling cities of Athens and Sparta to colonies in distant Afghanistan, but how exactly did these city-states work?
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Not similar, we had a hinterland, Greeks kinda didn't
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One of the most crucial reasons if not the most crucial that city-states were so prominent was because of the extreme mountainous terrain of Greece and other reasons
Yes, also the coast line which was divided into many small peninsulas, bays and Islands.
I imagine the terrain of the Yucatán peninsula might also explain the rise of Mayan city states
Writing a paper about how independent Greek city states were from eachother while maintaining their strong identity as Greeks.... This video was very helpful
0:17 that is what some dude, Phillips of Macedon thought long ago!
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Great video! I always wondered how those cities actually operated and how they interacted.
0:40 alliances, religion, culture, Olympic Games, ethnicity, language, music etc.
The Greeks did have an empire. It's called the Eastern Roman Empire, which is Greek in all but name.
Also, can you do a video about why and how the Golden Horde lasted the longest out of the four major Mongol khanates?
Also the Macedonian Empire and its diadochi states, Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Egypt and so on..
er no the byzantine empire was roman
@@exoendo It happened to be both.
@@nikoniortnike they self-identify as Romans so as far as we are concerned they were Romans. It's like saying the Americans are English.
@@10509054 They happened to be both. It depends In this case on what one means by saying “Greek.”
Greek was the dominant language of the Byzantine empire, and its core territories included the ancient Hellenic heartland of Greece, the Aegean, and the Ionian coast. By this token, they were Greek.
I'd say that the Byzantines were certainly a people very much influenced by Greek culture, but, who were also influenced a lot by other cultures as well. Many Byzantine people saw themselves as descendants of the Hellenes of the past - the descendants of the Ancient Greeks - but there were certainly notable minorities who did not. I think the best way to describe the Byzantines is, interestingly, how history generally remembers them: An eclectic mix of Roman and Greek cultures - the pinnacle of Classical development.
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Nice video, even with the generalization while you were talking about the general classes and rights of people in Greek poleis(the rest is very good)
If you like city-states you should make a video about 13th-14th century Tuscany
It would be interesting to draw the comparisons
1 hour later, still 0 dislikes. great video!
So
Ionian
Dorian &
Aeolian
Are all modes of the western major scale (for European music theory nerds)
I'm now wondering what the connection is
I wish I could say it was an easy-to-explain correlation, but the fact is that the church modes that the current Western modes of the major scale derives from got their names from a Greek tradition that used names of Hellenic and neighbouring(the Phrygians and Lydians) places and peoples. The problem is that the scales that we have today are highly unlikely to be similar to the ones that they share their names with, and we don't even really know the reasons why the original modes were called as such. The easiest answer would probably be that the modes were named after peoples that used the modes a lot.
the guy who named them used greek tribal names, no other connection exists
There’s also locrian (from Locris region). There’s Phrygian and many more
Singing in the local mode was part of the citizenship test. (Actually no I made that up)
@@ten.seconds That would have been hilarious though. Imagine walking across the border from Locris to Doris and suddenly the birds start to sing stuff that actually sounds melodic xD
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Cool to see a video about Hellas, keep up the good work man
Athens and Sparta were essentially rivals. Athens specializes in trade, economics and technology, while Sparta specializes in their power and military prowess.
This is sparta
Ancient Greeks Equivalent of Nerd and Jock :D
From the US here. Never knew what “Polis” meant but after this video I know why 3 state capitals end in Polis. Indianapolis - the capital of Indiana, Minneapolis - Minnesota, and Annapolis - Maryland? Interesting to know!
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@@Amar90 I think you are joking. Ancient Greeks gave us Western Civilization, Democracy, Comedy, Tragedy, History, political science, logic, mathematics, geometry, medicine and more.
@@raphaelc.5658 Mesopotamia gave all of that and more 2000 years earlier than Greece. Google it
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When people think of city states, they immediately think of Greece. Historically speaking, it was the most common political entity not just in ancient times but through medieval, rennaissance, etc. Some German cities were city states right up until the end of 19th Century (Hamburg, for example, joined the German Empire in 1860s/70s.)
The Yunanistan came out of nowhere. Turks call us like that because they first met Ionian Greeks but it's overall irrelevant.
And also Macedonians were cousins to Dorians but not Dorians? And what were they exactly?
I think that having more city states again would be great, we'd have many small countries, often representing ethnic minorities that want their own countries, it would also make the world more competitive and make the economy grow. There would also be much better chance of keeping cultures which are now endangered. It would also be possible to try much more different political ideologies and government systems, while those tries having very little effect on the rest of the world if they failed, but a good effect on the whole world if it worked as many other city states would adopt a similar structure. I think it would be great to do that.
Ancient Greeks and Italians knew exactly how to run the world
I have the same think
By that time there were not 7 billion people around keep that in mind
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At the beggining he admits that Ancient Greece wasn't centralized and that each polis was its own govermental-entity. Yet he proceeds to describe how they worked as if they were all the same. How the creator of this video missed this logical inconsistency is completely beyond me.
They can all be separate entities and still operate in a similar way.
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The thing is though that they absolutely didn't operate in a simillar way. Some were democracies and other ones were kingdoms or aristocracies or oligarchies.
@@babyblooddistilleriesinc3131 please bare in mind that the workings of the state were not solid but they themselves were a matter of political discussion. Being democratic minded or oligarchic minded was a matter of political identity. There were traditionally democratic and traditionally oligarchic states but even in them the political system would alter occasionally. The political workings of the city states were more of a Panhellenic political conflict-discussion than an identifying factor for the citizens of each state.
I have always been fascinated with and
captivated by the concept of the "City-State"...
as the idea seems both austere, fascinating
and maybe even a bit spooky all at the same time...
and I think is partly because
when I think of the word "city-state"...
my mind immediately conjures up images
of a fortified, walled fortress-city that
is leery and suspicious of outsiders
(i.e., perhaps a bit like the ancient city of Troy...
though that image is most likely pushing the point).
Also...
if there is one vibe that I seem to be
picking up on about a city-state above all others
(particular so about the ancient Greek city-states)
is that they appear to be extremely grounded
in who they are as a collective identity.
That is...
it appears that the people thought of themselves
a bit less as individuals and a bit more as a
collective citizen of a city-state first and foremost.
For example...
even the various Greek city-states were all ethnically
and culturally Greek and all spoke the Greek language...
the Greek people thought of themselves less as Greeks
(as a collective Hellenic nation) and much more by
their respective Greek city-state first and foremost.
In summary...
the ancient Greeks were collectively 'united'
(albeit, very loosely) by ethnicity and language
but that is where the "similarities"
appear to both begin and stop.
The ancient Greek city-states appear almost
clannish or tribal in their respective identities...
though it seems to be a bit more complex
and/or sophisticated than just that...
though not completely or entirely
far off from it, either.
Hmmmmm??🤔
Here in the USA...
we are all united by a somewhat common culture
and, of course, the English language that most US citizens speak...
but as far as I know, we have no modern concept of the city-state.
I think the closest entity that we "might" have here in the USA
that may come closest in comparing to an ancient Greek city-state...
would be a University college-campus.
American university college campuses
have their own collective identity...
complete with their own bylaws, charters, constitutions,
identities, mascots, traditions, "anthems / fight songs"
as well as the years that they were founded and by whom
(ie, their institutional 'founding fathers' not unlike how
the ancient city-states had their own founding fathers).
Furthermore...
these universities even have their own
'fighting men & women / gladiators'
in the form of athletes who 'go to war'
in the form of fierce athletic competitions
against other university teams...
often in colosseum-like
arenas and fields.
And last but certainly not least...
most university campuses have 'Greek-life'...
that is, various fraternities and sororities
that identify themselves with various letters
from the Greek alphabet.
If those are not the hallmarks
of an ancient Greek city-state...
than I don't know what is.
Outside of the U.S. and in the modern western world...
I think the only modern city (that I am aware of)
that would most or best compare to an ancient or
classical Greek city-state would the Vatican City in Rome...
though I think the Vatican is more accurately described as a
modern "nation-state" that is the approximate size of a small town.
Headed to Celestium too.
I love this nuanced, and yet concise content
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this is sparta
Do you know what the 25th island of Greece is?
The labels for architecture columns finally clicked after watching this lol
Thx for video i love Greek city states
The ancient Greeks were divided into over 1,000 different city-states, from the bustling cities of Athens and Sparta to colonies in distant Afghanistan, but how exactly did these city-states work?
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Cant you also use this fot rome since their the same thing but rome has different names and is a famouse empire many empires clain to be it reincarnation
can you make a vid about ancient egypt?
"The Greek word for city is Polis"
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Greek literacy is a historical forgery
The Greeks say TO BIBLIO for a book and TO TETRADIO for a notebook.But these words have nothing to do with reading and writing.Byblos is just the name of the city. It is a city where writing depth was sold. Writing depth called BUKVA...From BUKVA come English word BOOK and German,s word BUCH...Other goods were sold there, as in every trading town.When the Greeks saw a bandage of several beech bark or a bandage of pressed papyrus, the Greeks realized that it could be obtained in the city of Byblos. That is how the Greeks recognize the book, but they cannot use it because they are illiterate Asians. The Greeks see the book and say "biblos". Later, the monks of the city of Byblos made a noun of the middle genus TO BIBLIO. The word BIBLE originated in the plural of several biblos. TA BIBLIA.
TETRADIO(the Notebook) It is something square or rectangular in shape.The Greeks saw that the notebook was square and say TETRADIO as a tetrahedron but they could not use it because they were illiterate. These terms irrefutably prove it. Like when someone buy a watch in Salisbury. What time is it? Wait till I look in Salisbury !!!
The Greek language and concepts related to reading and literacy irrefutably prove that the Greeks were illiterate people from Asia.
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my Contry is only in europe who has orginal documents...
@@user-tm3ju5tc7m no you dont have history and original documents
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only in the archive in Vienna there are thousands of Serbian original documents.. In the Vatican there are tens of thousands of Serbian originals.. The complete archive of the Ottoman Empire consists of Serbian documents..etc..etc..
@@user-tm3ju5tc7m Show me ancient serbian writting(if you have ofc) unlike you i can show you mine
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We created a fake state in the 19th century and gave it all of ancient history. There never was a state named Greece in antiquity, the Dorians, the Ionians, the Macedonians, Epirus are all Illyrians, the Athenians are Pelasgians.We call Greek-Roman art then go and see there is not a single Roman emperor of Greek origin but as many as 25 of Illyrian origin.The Albanian language is the oldest language in Europe and one of the oldest in the world.The Albanians created the first Greek state in 1827 with the capital in Nafplio.Keep believing in donkeys that fly.
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Albanians never created anything you are not ancient people you dont have history only Greece has...also albanians are not illyrians cry more turkalbanian with no history xd
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