Did the Prophet Muhammad Marry Maria? | Concubines in Islam series, part 8 | Dr. Shabir Ally
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- Dr. Shabir Ally explores arguments that the Prophet Muhammad married Maria. He says that marriage practices were rudimentary, and it wasn't always clear to people if a man had married a woman or taken her as a concubine. The Prophet was instructed to follow the dictates of the Quran as were other Muslims; the Quran says enslaved women should be married off. Moreover, the Quran instructs people to set slaves free, and the Prophet is reported to have encouraged this as well. The Prophet freed two captives of war and they married him. We also know that the Prophet was foremost in doing good. It is more likely that the Prophet would have freed Maria -- if she was even enslaved to begin with -- and married her.
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Since Allah says men are not to marry sisters, and Rasulullah gave away one sister, seems like he actually married Maria, as otherwise he could have had both the sisters as slaves
MashaAllah
@@farkhandaamin7816 “Masha Allah” for what? 😳 For keeping slaves? As everyone is equal in front of Allah, then how could some humans be treated as slaves of other humans? Is it the thing that should be prohibited first after forming Islam? Why do they keep supporting it and not make it haram? 🤔 I am also a Muslim by birth, but I have lots and lots of doubts. That’s why I am asking this question. Can you clear my doubt, please?
@@CROCHETLOVERS279may Allah guide you
@CROCHETLOVERS279 did you not hear what he said? Quran encouraged us to free slaves.
@@CROCHETLOVERS279you can come to Yasir Nadeem Al wajidi stream (you can ask in English, he will let you clear the doubts...)
Find me a book older than 150 years that criticized Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. marriage to Hazrat Aisha R.A. or Maria R.A.
This is a very recent thing. 200 years ago they criticized him for giving daughters property rights knowing that daughters have nothing to do with the farmland that the father left, since they're married by the time they're 12-13 yr old. Darwin was labeled as a Muhammadian because he was so "progressive" just like early Muslim scientists. The criticism will change with time.
But the actions of prophet was timeless.
He knew the past and the future
Then why he did something which is not considered sane humanly in present era.
Who is "they"?
And was the age of Aisha commonly known 200 years ago? These being translated and available for others to read, and finally spread through the internet is quite recent.
@@Tar-Elenion I knew about it growing up well before internet. I don’t speak Arabic. It’s common knowledge because she’s the source of literally the most number of Hadith (Islamic accounts). I don’t know what does internet have to do with this but please feel free to explain
@@alikhan81 You are not from 200 years ago.
And it should be obvious that I am referring to non-muslims. People likely to be criticizing Muhammad.
The internet has helped to greatly spread the tradition and allowed the responses to it to also be widely circulated.
@@Tar-Elenion I’m in the U.S. and my Mexican friends once told me that he was told that Muslim men have to take their daughter’s virginity. Another one said that we share wives. This is today…
You think they would let Aisha’s age go if this was not socially acceptable. There are a lot of things about Islam that being in the US, I find atypical such as, slavery.
Before Islam, Mohammad S.A.W. had a slave named Zayd who was gifted to him by his then wife Khadijah. He was abducted as a child elsewhere and was sold at a market and purchased by Khadijah’s nephew. After some time, Zayd’s father and uncle found out the location of the kid and offered everything they had to purchase him back. Prophet refused to take any money and told Zayd that he is free to go if that’s what he wants. Zayd told his father that this man is more of my father than you could’ve ever been and refused to leave prophet’s ownership. Prophet held his hand and as by the law of the time, took him to the steps of kaba and announced that from this day on, this boy is free and he is my son. He will inherit after me and take my name. Most scholars believe that had Zayd not died, he would have most probably been voted as the first khalifah (Islamic political leader and head of then Islamic state).
Jesus didnot slave anyone, even he didn't touch any woman, 😢😢
Did he have political power?🤦
What about Solomon had 700 wives over and above 300 concubines in the old testament?
@@rimshamasood2016 solomon was punished and we dont follow him we follow jesus.
How can a prophet Muhammad, do that, isn't that haram? This is not an example for a prophet to behave in this manner.
What?????? What you saying?
Who married 160000 wives
i would rather beklieve Jesus Christ as the Way, Truth rather than this false prophet who was a lier and after all hiss teachings he is not sure if he will go to Heaven, Just think what about you if your prophet is not sure
@@AhmedAl-Haddadi i would rather beklieve Jesus Christ as the Way, Truth rather than this false prophet who was a lier and after all hiss teachings he is not sure if he will go to Heaven, Just think what about you if your prophet is not sure
My Prophet is best human Riyad as-Salihin 620
Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was the best of all the people in behaviour.
[Al- Bukhari and Muslim].
Sahih Muslim 2310 b
Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was the best amongst people in disposition and behaviour.
وَحَدَّثَنَا شَيْبَانُ بْنُ فَرُّوخَ، وَأَبُو الرَّبِيعِ، قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَارِثِ، عَنْ أَبِي التَّيَّاحِ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، قَالَ كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَحْسَنَ النَّاسِ خُلُقًا .
Sahih al-Bukhari 3549
Narrated Al-Bara:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was the handsomest of all the people, and had the best appearance. He was neither very tall nor short.
Question is on consent and number. I believe Classical Islamists were wrong when they said no consent were required ..Islam states that Muslims should treat each other equally and also Non-Muslims. Slaves should not be oppressed and should not be forced to do anything
Slavery is an oppressive system. The very idea of slavery requires force and coercion. It takes away freedom. You cannot have free slaves. The idea is an oxymoron.
@@tictac7359 You are wrong. I assume you have not heard about indentured labour, forced labour or even permanent land settlement under the British, I am just pointing out the Qranic principles and hadeeths
@@sabrinashahab795 Indentured laborers and forced laborers were not slaves! And yet, you wouldn’t want to be one!
I have no idea what your post was about. Or what I was wrong about. Slaves were considered property that could be bought, traded and sold.
Don’t be an apologist for slavery of any kind.
@@tictac7359 Yes they were, currently these type of labour is called Modern slavery.
@@sabrinashahab795 The fact that you need to spell out that slaves “should not be oppressed and should not be forced to do anything” should suggest to you that slaves were not free from oppression or the threat of coercion.
How else do you think slave populations were kept in check? Or how were they put to work or made sexual objects. Even if a slave were treated kindly, a slave was still a slave with limited rights. And this has its impact.
It makes no sense if we are talking about slaves for you bring up indentured servitude when that was not practiced in the Islamic world. You are just being disingenuous. It is all smoke and mirrors. Shame!
Of course, the Prophet Mohammed had married with Maria and had gotten a boy named Ebraham (Ebrahim). The lessons we should learn here are:
1 The Prophet in his life is the only source for the explanations and implications of Quran. His behaviours and deeds are the source of the Jurisprudence.
2. Married with Jaws and Christian is allowed and we have common grandfather is Ebraham.
3. Married with Slaves is allowed and preferable to elimination this phenomenon that was dominated from the era of ignorance.
Remember Prophet Muhammad has a view number of marriages much less and nothing to mentioned in comparison with all Prophets' marriages mentioned in the Bible. Also it's worth to mention that the Nine marriages of the Prophet they didn't happened at once to say it due to sextual lust, in fact it took separate periods and most of them are older than him, with the aim of rooting good behavior or eliminating a bad phenomenon in society or bringing people's hearts closer and honoring some of the companions killed in the battles and appreciation to their sacrifices to including their families to the house of prophecy. There is another reason, which is documenting the jurisprudence of women after the death of the Prophet, such as the example of his marriage to Mrs. Aisha, may God be pleased with her.
you are better than this my Dear, cant you see Muslim is leading you to Hell? I would rather believe Jesus Christ who was Perfect both in Bible and Quran than Muhammad to be prophet of God. Please do some research like someone who dont know nothing and find on your self which one is the truth dont depend on other people
Can you tell me why Phrophet muhammd (saw) only has child from marria. In quran ALLAH said to treat wives equally. How only marria has a child among mother of believes except kathija (Ra).
@@sarashifu6863 prophet Muhammad treat to wives equally can u ever read hadith ?? In hadith many references refer to to prophet Muhammad treating wives equally prophet Muhammad completely renewed and improved the status of women. A whole set of laws was developed from the Quran to establish their rights.
This was a world first for the time when women's rights both in the East and in the West, were very rudimentary
To make a romantic image, one could say that the beginning of Islam started in the arms of a woman Khadija and ended in the arms of another woman Fatima.
Can u ever read biology ??
Men gradually lose fertility over time and same goes for woman..
This means that their recognition is necessary for the correct understanding of the Prophet's sunnah and sirah. Except for ʿA�'isha, all other wives of the Prophet were widows and some of them had children from their previous husbands. But the Prophet's children were born from only two wives, Khadı�ja and Māriya because God does not want Prophet Muhammad to have children from every wife ..
@@mystry.699 really did he treated them equally?
@@arcadegamer5059 yup bro go and read quran hadith verse
I really respect the honesty of you both. Great scholars and noble human beings 👏
Why should anybody be so obsessed about marriages when there are so many other more important matters to attend to in life?
Allama Shibli Naumani and Shah Waliullah and so many Biblical historian narrates Prophet Muhammad married with Mariya Al-Qibtiyya.
When Quran says explicitly people have to marry with slave men and women so without that physical relationship is prohibited according to the Quran surah 4:25
Imagine people's ignorance even after all this, brother!
Why did his child bride ayesha prevent him from visiting slaves?? But not other wives?? Didn't Mohammad say slaves are your wish and can do whatever you can do
@@ckasmr4770 If you really want your misconceptions to be answered goto stream of Muslim Lantern , he will make things clear In Sha Allah
How much peace does the prophet require ?
Muslims : yes
Exactly, maybe hes still having fun in his grave!?
@@ravindrapratapsinghshekhaw4562 haters
@@ravindrapratapsinghshekhaw4562 jealous
@@ravindrapratapsinghshekhaw4562 You too will see fun. Let the time come.
Maria was not one of the wives of the Prophet (PBUH), she was not called the Mother of the Believers, as he usually does with his wives. She was called Umm Walad (the boy's mother) They mean the son of the Prophet.
Yeah
@@hm4084 Wikipedia is not an Islamic source, we go to scholars, not websites that anyone can edit
No she must have been the prophets wife not concubine but Allah knows best
He didn't explain well.
Read the letter of Muqawaqis of Egypt about Hazrat Maria RA.
Secondly she was wife of the prophet Muhammad SAW. Check Mustadrak Hakim hadith 6819, Sahih Muslim 6494, Tarikh Tabri vol 9, Wives of prophet PBUH biography by Ibn Kathir, Al fauzul kabeer by shah waliullah, Ahad wal masani book and Robert Henry Charles research on her.
Great, I was wondering about this matter and your question and answer helped to clarify it. Thanks!
you are better than this my Dear, cant you see Muslim is leading you to Hell? I would rather believe Jesus Christ who was Perfect both in Bible and Quran than Muhammad to be prophet of God. Please do some research like someone who dont know nothing and find on your self which one is the truth dont depend on other people
dimag laga ke local hoke Pura reasoning ke sath Qur'an padho sab samjh me aayega Abdul
Or waisebhi tum to Converted ho
Tumhari ammi kab or kaise convert huyi thi tum bhi jaante ho kaise Babar aaya uske baad . Kya kya kiya tha wo us samay
Thoda sharam karo
infidel women are on earth to serve the sexual needs of muslim men when their wives are not able to satisfy us
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Lol.. so what did you learn from this answer? Yes concubines and buy and selling of women is allowed. So are you happy with this?
Hello Saffiya, can you please ask Dr Shabir why If Mohammed was married to Maria the Copt, do we find reports of Hafsa and Aisha inducing Mohammed to swear that Maria is haram for him. Can a husband make his wife haram and withhold her marital privileges?
Are there any responses besides denying the reports? Thanks!
Muhamad cannot marry maria because she was not a war booty
I think it was about honey
Read the letter of Muqawaqis of Egypt about Hazrat Maria RA.
Secondly she was wife of the prophet Muhammad SAW. Check Mustadrak Hakim hadith 6819, Sahih Muslim 6494, Tarikh Tabri vol 9, Wives of prophet PBUH biography by Ibn Kathir, Al fauzul kabeer by shah waliullah, Ahad wal masani book and Robert Henry Charles research on her.
@@rimshamasood2016 Where can we find this letter? In Tabari? The same Tabari who says that she was a concubine sent as a gift to Mohammed??
"Muhammad's earliest biographers, Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Sa’d, and al-Tabari, mentioned Mariyah as Muhammad's concubine in their sirah."
What are we to do with the reports that say she was a concubine and was only freed after she gave birth to her son Ibrahim.
the one who enlightened our hearts with faith, the one who taught us justice, the one who gave equality, the one who freed us from oppressions, the one who taught us to respect our parents , the one who gave rights to all people , the one who raised hands for his ummah and cried all night for forgiveness....Ya Rasulullah we believe you and your religion ..and love you ❤more then anything ...peace be upon you ❤❤❤
Does the mere act of marrying make everything all right?? The simple fact is that certain traditions were the norm 1400 years ago and with evolution of our thinking, is now no longer acceptable.....let's accept that and move on.....no need to defend the indefensible......and this is true of practices across all ancient religions.....
In mahabharata...when Draupadi was
put at stake in gamble and lost...
She became slave to kaurav...
The kaurav dragged her in the king's court and tried to unclothe her...in front of all the pandits, ministers, and other elders...and even her five husbands did not do anything becs now they had lost their wife....
Great points brothers..... mahabharata (which personally I believe is a story) though some people believe it to be real and attribute holy status supposedly took place 5000 years ago. Koran is 1400 years old. Slavery in US/Europe existed till about 200 years ago.....none of them was/is right. Discrimination which exists in America today is wrong ...... personally I think it's futile to say that x and y are both wrong, but x is less wrong than y........ slavery/discrimination is wrong.....period.....and it was the accepted norm centuries ago.....so we cant expect to apply today's norm to those times
@@somakghosh8407 I agree...we should be slaves of Allah alone..
No other masters
@@sajid279 lol trying to look smart but fools are spotted easily .. mahabharata is a story not true history. Trying to justify a cruel practice of real islamic history with a story book ??? Try again with a sensible mind!
@@quor5103 Hindis call it itihasa...majority..
Only a minority of hindua consider it a myth
Very reasonable discussion of an interesting topic. May Allah bless you.
you are better than this my Dear, cant you see Muslim is leading you to Hell? I would rather believe Jesus Christ who was Perfect both in Bible and Quran than Muhammad to be prophet of God. Please do some research like someone who dont know nothing and find on your self which one is the truth dont depend on other people
dimag laga ke local hoke Pura reasoning ke sath Qur'an padho sab samjh me aayega Abdul
Or waisebhi tum to Converted ho
Tumhari ammi kab or kaise convert huyi thi tum bhi jaante ho kaise Babar aaya uske baad . Kya kya kiya tha wo us samay
Thoda sharam karo
I can see someone is trying to justify slavery and Loot. Disgusting... 🤬🤬🤬
Slavery was necessary, dumb.
Today we have modern technology but in past we didn’t have.
The war before modern civilization was based on man power.
Empire power depends on How much you have men.
The bigger empire the bigger chance to survive..
When you wage war against some empire you have to kill all the enemy men to win war..
When you kill almost all the men in war then only women are left.
What you gonna do with a big amount of women in empire?
You have 3 option
1.kill them
2.Spare them
3.Enslave them.
If you kill all women you are cruel.
If you spare womens they will make a small group to rebel Against you or join your enemy, then the enemy will get bigger.
Then you will be annihilated by your enemy..
So you have only option that enslave them..
But the muslim slavery and Other society slavery aren’t same...
Because in islamic slavery you have to feed them what you eat,you have to give clothes what you wear,you can't beat them,you cant torture them,you can't prostitute them,you have to fulfill her desires,basically its like a family member.
There are multiple verse in Quran to free slave.
If the master die, the slave is automatically free.
If the slave gives a child, the child is free..
That's why you will see in islamic empire many slaves were king..
So automatically if you take slave, You have took care of her/his like family member.
The "slave" word doesn’t fit in islamic slavery.. Rather it should be family memeber.
The slave master relationship in Islam is better than brahmin and shudra relationship..
Read your book pls
@@mitsume_slay I do not follow any religious book...
@@thinkdifferent2022 then shut up and go , why comment here 😆🤣
@@thinkdifferent2022 Then build a time machine and relive the 1400+ years ago and correct it, mister! "21st century it is but I will judge something I know nothing about which happened 1400+ years ago."
This answers NOTHING!!HOW does this work?? Saying SLAVES and FREEDOM at the same time ?
We should say "Peace be upon him" whenever we talk about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH),
You're taking his name as he's just a normal human being.
Yeah he was not a normal human
But rather a hypersexul one
You're correct we should say piss be upon him
And Muslims believesll this blindly
Horrid and they r sll proudof this
Convinentily saying Allah rvealed this to Mohamad for his benefit
yeah like Hindus believe in their idol i.e. Krshna keeping more than 1000 wives
@@EmranChary But Muslims adamantly claim that Islam is the true religion and is perfection. And that the Quran is the literal word of God (Single God). So if you are a muslim, why are you cmparing your monotheist religion with an impure and polytheist religion?
Jazakallah Dr Shabir. This was a great response
you are better than this my Dear, cant you see Muslim is leading you to Hell? I would rather believe Jesus Christ who was Perfect both in Bible and Quran than Muhammad to be prophet of God. Please do some research like someone who dont know nothing and find on your self which one is the truth dont depend on other people
Teaching slaves good manner does that mean all slaves had bad manners so they have to be taught good manners. And what is meant by good manner???
"he sent woman as gifts" The day these females become aware of the misogynistic and heinous nature of history towards them and educate themselves in present, your philosophy will be updated.
😂
I don't understand this idea of marry her
The most Authentic opinion is that Maria al-Qibtiyyah was not a wife of the Prophet ﷺ, she was a slave-concubine and she remain that way until he ﷺ died.
The subject is important and often ignored. It is surrounded by a lot of unknowns. No matter what the justification concubineage is difficult to accept and does not say a lot for the status of women. The defence of this practice including by the prophet pbuh himself is a big problem. Thank you for trying to analyse it.
I agree I appreciate the effort put forth in this series but I fail to see any way to justify concubinage.
@@SuperRosePower It seems that you compare 21 century to 7th century.
Further, hadith isn't Quran. If you don't mind, read Quran translation by Mohamed Asad who is convert scholar.
By the way, both Jesus and Moses allowed men to have concubines. For example:
Solomon was allowed to have 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3)
I signed up for this channel with an open mind and willingness to learn. It is perfectly ok to express reservations and expect Dr shabir to address any points that are raised. He is the accademic with the ability to answer. It is not helpful for anyone else to pass judgement or assume lack of knowledge on the comments made. Islam is meant to be an improvement on what was before. There is no justification so far for having concubines.
@@mateenzaki dude...... it's not 2022....... your jealousy isn't justified either......
@@DONTHATETHEPLAYA321 What about Jesus and Moses allowed men having many concubines? For instance:
👉BIBLE says "Solomon was allowed having 700 WIVES and 300 CONCUBINES (1 Kings 11:3)
Thats good to know i am going to subscribe to this channel
Hey are you Muslim?
How many times and how many Kgs of peace does Muhamad need? Why not we call war be upon on him (WUPH) with 30 wives, Concubines and Slave girls at one time in one shot a man with 30 horses of strength..
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16108 wives of krishna seems sufficed to you? Oops a lot of slave girls are present there as well.
Whoever wrote such a hadith of false story of concubine and Prophet SAWS, is a fake story made up by an enemy of Islam. One should right away reject such question and shun such ignorant ones.//Salaam/peace
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@@arcadegamer5059 my brother let’s laugh together 😂😂😂😅😅 this people are confused
@@cheikhyakhoubakonte 🤣🤣 yes they are. some of their claims are the funniest 🤣🤣
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@@arcadegamer5059 laughing at your idiocy? If so, let's laugh together!
There is no evidence that Prophet married Maria, this is just presuming and try to solidify his opinion by various assumptions, which are untrue.
This is so serious issue, but not address by Allah.
The character of Muhammad is the worst as per the scriptures be it Quran or Hadees.He had no control over his immoral carnal desires,Anger,Greed and Attachment to worldly pleasures.I wonder how his utterances has been passed on as words of Almighty.
This Channel is Well know for "AL - TAQQIYA"
If a thing or reference don't match with your thoughts then it becomes al takiya for you Mr lindu😂😂😂
@@abuzaformohammedaman9205 Halaala ki Paidaish zombies first of all read your book & compares with current situation around the world..ok sahi al Bukhari 5134
Why did Muhammad have so many wives but the rest of us are only allowed 4? The quran says 4 wives is permissible but Muhammad had more than that at one time. Did Muhammad go against God's orders or am I missing something because it seems like a double standard. Please answer and thanks.
In Surah Al-Ahzab, there are seven rules about marriage peculiar to the Prophet.
Four of these granted him relaxations and three put restrictions; and while the Prophet certainly abided by the restrictions, we know from some reports that he did not opt to benefit from two of the relaxations. You can read the detail explanation in Ma'arif Al-Qur'an Translated by Muhammad Shamim (Karachi: Maktaba-e-Darul Uloom) Vol.7, 191-200.
Because by that time the verse was released the prophet already had more than 4 wives and after this verse even he wasn’t allowed to marry anymore according to the Quran (excluding what his right hand possessed) he did not marry anyone else after this verse and on top of that his existing wives could never be remarried even if they got divorced so he couldn’t divorce them either after this verse he only married what his right hand possessed
“Not lawful to you, [O Muhammad], are [any additional] women after [this], nor [is it] for you to exchange them for [other] wives…” (33:52)
And the timing may have been right as well because the prophet was responsible for spreading Islam and he mainly did this by marrying for business reasons also all of his wives were divorcees or widows besides Aisha RA and he was monogamously married to his first wife for 25 years until she died
A very silly question. The circumstances that the Messenger, may God bless him and grant him peace, faced, forced the Prophet to marry 11 women, most of whom were divorced and widowed.
Excellent explanations! Thanks everyone!
@@hm4084 Quite the sad situation for his wives. They marry the prophet when he's old, he lives with them for a few years, and then they can't remarry for the rest of their lives despite being young.
I believe the credibility of Dr. Sabbir has significantly been eroded due to previous comments he’s made regarding concubines and spouses in Islam. It’s hard to watch him talk right now and to see him as a recognized and respected scholar. May Allah guide us Ameen
Did he lie though? If he did, what’s the lie
?
@@hm4084 The problem with your proposed counter-argument to other types of believers is that you’re making the assumptions that allowing something to happen and ordering it in the form of a divine decree are the same things. Yahweh in the Bible has never commanded any prophets to take concubines, where such behavior is even endorsed by the God in the Quran. Yeshua took it even further than saying that one man should have one wife. He declared that if a man even look at a woman who is not his wife he has committed adultery.
As far as Dr Ali, his honesty in broaching the topic will produce better results than any attempt to dismiss the obvious, or obfuscate what everyone already can see and read.
Your counter-argument about atheist is fallacious as well. But that’s another topic
I agree. Shabir seems pretty wobbly on this. For M to supposedly be a model of perfect human virtue seems
pretty hard to accept if these stories are true, and marrying a child of six, "consummating" the marriage
when she's still playing with dolls, does not present M in a very flattering light. This troubles a lot of believers and rightly so. Some Shia scholars have even suggested that Aiisha was responsible for M's death. Not too difficult to see the motivation if true, the pain of which she must have carried in her heart for many years.
I have to agree with Mushfiq Choudory about this.
Such a long answer but yet real answer was still not answered
So you see I freed the chicken by frying it because if u think about it , it naturally wanted to be fried because it is a chicken. Also when I pour sauce then it belongs to me .
How shameful
How horrendous 😮
Young girls 😮 as a gift
..... and prophet has excepted
It 😮
Go and read ur own scripture 1st,
@@mrsjawferzeejay1805Does it justify yours? No? That is such an awful strategy you Muslims keep following.
@@the4eyedowl341Assuming you're Christian, it would by hypocritical of a Christian to judge something as morally wrong when things that would also be considered wrong exist in their own scripture. So even though it doesn't "justify" anything, Christians should keep silent on the morals of Islam.
@@bruh8025 "Assuming you're Christian". No, I am not. Shouldn't be assuming around. As I have said other scriptures being just as wrong doesn't justify your cause.
@@the4eyedowl341 Then tell me your problems with Islam and I will try my best to answer your questions.
So Prophet supported slavery??😢Sahih Bukhari 3:41:598😢😢
Dr. Sabbir said Maria Kibtia, a gift from the ruler if Egypt, was treated well by Mohammed, unlike a slave, as she was from a nobel family. According to him that behavior constituted the marriage. However, Maria's name didn't have a place in the list of Mohammed's wives. What point Dr. Sabbir wanted to make?
He want to say
That "she was a side chick" in soft well mannered words.
@@DownShifted exactly 😂
taqqiya by a so called scholar
Who said she is not listed? Check Mustadrak Hakim hadith 6819, Sahih Muslim 6494, Tarikh Tabri vol 9, Wives of prophet PBUH biography by Ibn Kathir, Al fauzul kabeer by shah waliullah, Ahad wal masani book and Robert Henry Charles research on her.
Fellow the line of Fatima
Firstly prophet muhammad(saw) married older, slave, dirvorced, Christian and jews women to show if your prophet can marry these girls then you should too. do not see slave or older or dirvorced women as low marry them respect them. secondly a person who has little bit of shame or intelligence he will never ever say or ask such things about a prophet. other than them if people still feel stomuchache than just ignore them it's their work to judge and point at others they cannot grow in their life. Mother maria was indeed wife of prophet because he had a son with her it's obvious except for some sick people
Lol grow up small kid! The whole Islamic nation knows Maria was a concubine NOT his wife! Everyone knew who his wifes were and Maria was never counted as his wife! He had slave girls, concubines, women kidnapped from war , all were used for sexual pleasure. Stop trying to white wash the truth! Grow up little kid , this is all mentioned in real history ! Take it for keep dreaming 😅
You see, that is the mind virus. Two decent good persons taking reasoning and defending immorality and horrific evilness.
Prophet took Sofia to Apartment in Hilton Hotel.Wow.And he took Maria the Copt to his other wife Aparment,actualy even to her Bad.He had very good time with all those multiple wifes.What the good life he had
These are not facts, just jumping to conclusions deriving what could have happened rather than what actually happened.
Wow, wow, just wow...... That's why I left islam
Fake people
Did Prophet Muhammad ﷺ married Maria? If not, was it allowed back then to have child with slave?
A very interesting series of talks on concubines. I wonder how Prophet Muhammad reconciled with the 7th commandment from God via Prophet Moses. Prophet Muhammad at one stage in his life went on his mirage journey to meet up with God, Jesus and other Prophets in heaven. Did he take advice on such matters?
@@hm4084 Thou shall not commit adultery. Thou shall not steal may also apply if women are seen as 'property' , 'human property' ?. Location is 7th but some listing may it 8th. Bit confusing.
Quran 4:24 - And [forbidden to you are] all married women other than those whom you rightfully possess [through wedlock)
Quran 4:3 - If you have reason to fear that you might not act equitably towards orphans, then marry from among women such as are lawful to you two, or three, or four: but if you have reason to fear that you might not be able to treat them with equal fairness, then [only] one - or [from among] those whom you rightfully possess (war captives)
Quran 33:50 - Those their right-hands possess or war captives through wedlock.
Quran translation by Muhammad Asad is available free on the internet.
Quran 60:12 prohibition of ad_ltery.
Quran 17:32 - And do not come near ad_ltery. It is immoral, and an evil way.
Quran 25:68 - The servants of the Merciful are those who don't commit ad_ltery.
Quran 24:2 - Talks about the punishment of ad_lteress and the ad_lterer.
@@Klm1z An English translation or summary would be helpful.
Concubinage isn’t something prohibited in the Old Testament biblical law. The OT prophets themselves had concubines (God permitted it and did not condemn them) so this isn’t something exclusive to the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ.
SUMMER SALT GYMNASTICS TO JUSTIFY WHAT THE FFFFFF MUHAMMAD WAS DOING.🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
The powerful Prophets of the Bible like Moses, Samuel, Isaiah, Ezekiel and so forth never practiced polygamy. ( Many scholars state that Moses had only one wife. A prophet of his stature wouldn't have married a second wife). It is the kings like David and Solomon who practiced polygamous life. Kings are Kings. They are carnal.
A prophet can't lead a carnal life.
Safiyyah (Sophia) and Maria (Mary) were the same person (and I was never a slave).
I am confused at 4:40. Did Muhammad have a son with Maria and since she was a slave girl did that make the child illegitimate? Please clarify.
As far as I understand the video, the Prophet did have a son with Maria but Dr. Shabir's point is that he was already married to Maria at that point.
Allama Shibli Naumani and Shah Waliullah and so many Biblical historian narrates Prophet Muhammad married with Mariya Al-Qibtiyya.
When Quran says explicitly people have to marry with slave men and women so without that physical relationship is prohibited according to the Quran surah 4:25
@@ilovemycountryindia5513 oh really so he didn't had any physical relationship before mar.riage??
@@arcadegamer5059 no
@@mrsjawferzeejay1805 then what about his con. cubines??
Posting a comment always prompts "experts" to crawl out of the woodwork to demonstrate their ignorance and lack of manners even on subjects like this which, although sacred, need investigation. Scoring points and making childish comparisons, is debasing the subject and does not add to knowledge. All faiths are sacred and need our utmost respect. It's clear God sent numerous "messengers" and religion needs to be seen as a continuum. The purpose of which
is to guide us how to coexist in peace with fellow human beings. My remarks I repeat were for Dr Shabir's attention only. The subject is quite complicated and yes needs to be seen in context. I suspect it needs comprehensive study of why and how things evolved. Presenting it in short bursts does not satisfy my objections. It's good to be critical and question. Jumping jacks who want to defend or suggest their version need to create their own channels or podcasts.
Do u blv indian God
@@isaacharris2200 He didn't said about believing in it, he said about respecting the choices of individuals regarding faith, that's all.
What was the age of Aisha when she was married ?
Around 18-20 years
@@attarehman6030 6 at marriage and 9 at consummation.
@@Tar-Elenion This hadit most probably wrong translated.
@@abuzaformohammedaman9205 Says who?
And there are many hadith that say that.
Were they all "wrongly translated"?
And nobody noticed?
@@attarehman6030
Lol, you are so embarrassed by your prophet that 😂
If According to your view Maria was wife of Prophet than why was she kept outside town and not with his other wives
Was she kept her whole life outside??
Or just at the time when she was brought...
None of the wives lived together
Everyone had their own place
Where do you get your info from
@@behuman3801 i would rather beklieve Jesus Christ as the Way, Truth rather than this false prophet who was a lier and after all hiss teachings he is not sure if he will go to Heaven, Just think what about you if your prophet is not sure
@@WaterWalkers01 actually you are not sure which side you are talking about ☹️ .. right? exactly
@@behuman3801 if each wife lived separately then who was with them each night? Muhammad can't be in different houses at the same time. So are you telling me the wives were left alone in their respective houses at night?!? Anyone could have entered their house at night and assaulted them. How does this arrangement make practical sense???
Cucubaines are common in ?
... and just when I thought that this episode would end the series, there is another one coming, and it going to be counter argument to this episode 😁
I love the academic honesty ... thank you Dr. Shabir, Safiyya and all the research team behind the channel 🙏
you are better than this my Dear, cant you see Muslim is leading you to Hell? I would rather believe Jesus Christ who was Perfect both in Bible and Quran than Muhammad to be prophet of God. Please do some research like someone who dont know nothing and find on your self which one is the truth dont depend on other people
Follow Jesus christ for He is the way and he is sinless .......
This is the full list of concubines of prophet Muhammed.
Baraka
Berre binti Şerhabil
Cüveyriye binti Haris
Ebu Rafi'nin cariyesi
Ebi Cehil'in cariyesi
Ebi Ruhm
Esma binti Nu'mân
Esiye
Eslem
Etiye
Fadl
İnâb
İsmet
Gaziyye
Gifran
Hakim bin Hizam'ın cariyesi
Halime
Hafsa binti Ömer
İmâme
Kalka
Kays binti Sa'd
Leyla binti Hamîze
Leyla binti Kudame
Leyla binti Haris
Lübâbe binti Haris
Meymune
Medyune
Mîme binti Abdillah
Marhaba
Marya
Nâşiye
Nufeyse
Rabia
Remle
Ramlah binti Şevbe
Rihane
Reyyane
Rumaysa
Sebîne (veya Sabîne)
Sâfiyye binti Huyeyy
Safiyye binti Ebû Ubeyd
Sâfîne
Sahle
Sâra
Sâvîye
Süheyl binti Amr
Sümeyra
Şağalibe
Sâvite
Şeyma
Tufeyre
Tübâ
Ukbe binti Ömer
Umame binti Abdi'l-Muttalib:
Ummu Ammâr
Ümmü Eymen
Ümmü Gıris
Ummu Hakim
Ümmü Mısrâ
Ümmü Muhâcir
Ummu'l-Hüseyn
Ümmü Selem
Ummu Şuca
Ümmü Seleme
Vüheybe
Zeyneb binti Cahş
Zenibe
Zeyneb binti Güzeyle
Şuva binti Haris
Source?
Not all slaves were concubines. Barakah breastfed him iirc, and he referred to her as his 'second mother'.
The Prophet (saw) only had 4 concubines and they were all freed eventually and all of his wives were married to him for political reasons,where did you even get this?
@@sadafandIsathey were "freed"? Meaning they were slaves?
@@sau2949 you should know by now 2 of his concubines wanted to be his wife(one of them even cried),and all the four were let go after his death,and yes they were slaves but they were treated a lot better than what slavery you saw in history(In Islam you can't even hit a slave let alone starve him and overwork him) plus there's a contract for freedom anyway and a Muslim should never reject it,So why didn't his concubines never even uttered about the contract? and you can't use fear as your argument here because then the other 2 concubines wouldn't have asked for marriage(plus Rayhanna(ra) crying when the Prophet (saw) divorced and happy when he took her back,now a person in fear wouldn't do that right?) and considering the fact that in this list his NURSE MOTHER is there absolutely screams this list is not authentic.And if your curious why slavery wasn't demolished is because when you go to war,you leave everything and when you lose,you have no where to go sometimes because often people got left behind,if you get into a new city and are not under anyones supervision,you are more likely to get blackmailed and abused or even murdered,In order to nor treat slaves like animals,many strict rules were put in Place and enforced upon the owner,plus when your a new citizen you don't get a citizenship immediately.
If slavery is haram then why did prophet have slaves and a kid with a slave too...and relationship outside of marriage is haram too..then why did sheikh say prophet had private relationship with these womens ...
Slavery was not explicitly referred to as haram. It was however, an act of good to free slaves and was encouraged in Islam.
How can you consider him a role model!! Crazy
33:50 is good
As everyone is equal in front of Allah, then how could some humans be treated as slaves of other humans? Is it the thing that should be prohibited first after forming Islam? Why do they keep supporting it and not make it haram? 🤔 I am also a Muslim by birth, but I have lots and lots of doubts. That’s why I am asking this question. Can you clear my doubt, please?…
Look up Daniel haqiqatjou and Mohammed hijab’s videos on slavery in Islam. They are free on TH-cam. This is a difficult topic to explain generally but they are the best explanations I’ve found so far.
Have not you read about Allah order people to free slaves as form of charity.
2nd thing the women Quran describes as slaves are than were occupied in war. They don't have their families with them. Islam also teach to free them. If you have doubts read book or use logic.
do not lie please ! mohammad not marry Maria
This doesn’t make sense, Any woman taken as captive technically is forced to marry or was threatened in some way has no choice to have a better life. How do you know she choose that option. Secondly, him saying they were married when he wasn’t married to her from the beginning but was with her physically and eventually did wife her. And ironically this was during the time when his Wife Hafsa caught him with her I’m assuming being intimate. She told his secrets to the other wives which of course caused them to be moody at him, and then he then declared the new verse in the Quran that he can punish them by not sleeping with them for one month or they will go to hell etc for not keeping their husband pleased or whatever, Within that time he was with Maria and even Had a son with her perhaps to wind up his other wives even more. Who knows the way he explains it isn’t deep in the roots, it sounds more like a man with sexual needs. He had multiple wives and the ones he had were not enough. Maria was known as beautiful so he tried to conquer her and all the other woman that were shared across the Muslim men when they were captured and their families were killed. That is not realistic to say they all agreed to marry those men. So you need to maybe wake up abit and apply more logic
Dr Shabbir runs around the subject 😅 He can't say NO the prophet didn't marry Maria but made her pregny 😢
1400 years later he is guessing mohammad married maria, but from bokhari hadith we see who(companion) narrated hadith mentioned maria as 'ummul e awlad' which term only used to address slave woman not married wife. sounds like Mr. shabir knows better then sahabi, anather incident: when mohammad sent hafsa to her dad's house and he took maria in hafsa's bed by that time hafsa back home and found maria and mohammad on bed then a verse came , what was mention in that verse? "slave"!! why Mohammed to swear that Maria is haram for him. Can a husband make his wife haram and withhold her marital privileges?
Mention the reference as well.
MashaAllah ❤
can you tell us how many wives the prophet pbuh had at the time he was given Mariah as a gift? that would reply to the question whether he married the slave or not , as by that time only 4 wives were allowed . it would only be possible for him if he had only 3 wives and that seems improbable, knowing how much he liked women.
It is well known that the Prophet peace and BLESSINGS be UPON him had more than 4 wives. He was an exception.
Pls ask this question to some one who knows the Islam better,,,, this guy is not expert so plssss do not call him for Islamic questions and answer sessions
Prophet Muhammad himself passed away? But Muslims claims he ascended up to heaven?
Only Prophet Isa(Jesus) peace be upon him was ascended up to heaven every creation of Allah will feel pain of death even angel of death will die in end then Allah will bring us all up prophet Isa will come Back and will live his remaining life time when his time will come he will return to Allah like other humans that's what Islam is
7 th. Century Arabia was like or maybe worst than the Wild Wild West with Islam being the only safe heaven. Freeing slaves marrying freed slaves with their buy in ie no force causing oppression was the best that any women would hope for being women had no rights outside the fold of Islam. The respect islam provided to women was the first of its kind with many liberties when coming to a woman. Please research academically to see the beauty of islam slowly bit surely wiping out slavery. Marrying, freeing expiating sins, respect and rights of not overburdening slaves, feeding same food as the masters, clothing same quality clothes as the owner etc. Many slaves did not want to go free when under rich muslim masters. Not knowing where to go and how to survive they wanted to stay as slaves having roof over, food and clothing and much more.
We tend to see things with 21 st century lens and not having or understanding of the 8 th century arab society and its brutality with harshness of desert life tend to not grasp the reality, many making nonsensical comments not baring feom calling names and slandering the Prophet pbuh of Allah. Whatever the Prophet pbuh could have not been wrong as all of his actions related to deen were per command and guidance of Allah well within the allowed bounds from the Creator of the Worlds!
Pls think and ponder before uttering nonsensical comments. Prophet pbuh was sent by God as a mercy to mankind. Also do not think and say y this or that but remember we r the servants of Allah and Gods will is going to be done here on earth as it is in heavens. Allah has blessed and preferred mankind over many of his creatures. Remember not all creatures but the Quran states “many”. Still whatever whoever is the best of all is still the servant of God including us and the entire creation including all creatures. Simple! No more and no less! Period is it! Fin!
Real dummies justiying Mohamad s insatiable lust
Assalamualaikum. I apologize in advance if I have missed this in any part of the video series. I would like to get some clarification on the following:
1. If the captured women were married and had living husbands, were they still treated as concubines?
2. If the women had children, what used to happen to them (the children) after they (the women) were captured?
Jazzakum Allahu Khair. May Allah Accept our Ibadah to learn more about Islam and Allow us to learn with an open mind and with proper understanding of the Quran and Hadith.
A master could not have sexual relations with a slave who was already married prior to acquisition or had been married by the master to someone else. This was forbidden.
"Whoever separates a mother from her child, Allah will separate him from his loved ones on the Day of Resurrection.”
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1566.
If these answers satisfy you, remove your comment.
@@ftst4756 Why do you want him to remove the comment? You answered his questions with reference. Let others see it as well
Using 📿 Prayer beads for tasbeeh is NOT Bidah because we are not changing the ruling of our Prophet P.B.U.H which is Subhanallah 33 times, Alhamdulillah 33 times & Allahu Akbar 34 times
➔ If one was to change the ruling by saying read Subhanallah 50 times, Alhamdulillah 50 times & Allahu Akbar 50 times only then it would be classed as bidah
➔ 📿 ( Prayer beads ) are used to make it easy for us just as a a car is used to get to the Mosque & just as speakers are used for the Azan
@@fgtrhwu2 because christian ediots will use his questions to make a exaggerated video .
@@ftst4756 You already have the answer for them if they do
Dont get it ...Prophet muhammad eagerly helped the woman slaves...but not encouraged the freedom of men slaves
Wait but our prophet PBUH said never to hurt women in war nor children and the trees etc so why are there female pov
Where he said that?
But when he was told about the massacre of children of the enemy he said they were one of them
He didn’t give any authentic reference about this marriage🤔 everybody knows the real story behind this which debunk the true face of this religion🙄
Does Mo had an appartment
why a prophet from God need so many wives?
Transferring islam to women personal law
@@Arifking553personal law? Asking why need so many wives?
@@st1952 why did Hindu god need 1000 wives?
@@mitsume_slay ya, why need so many? Becos is a story...
@@st1952 ur story ,we are make history
3:15 these girls are from noble family. So treat them well.
How innocent you look while uttering these words.
How pathetic.
😢
Read the letter of Muqawaqis of Egypt about Hazrat Maria RA. It was a norm of Coptic Christian, not Muslims.
Secondly, she was wife of the prophet Muhammad SAW. Check Mustadrak Hakim hadith 6819, Sahih Muslim 6494, Tarikh Tabri vol 9, Wives of prophet PBUH biography by Ibn Kathir, Al fauzul kabeer by shah waliullah, Ahad wal masani book and Robert Henry Charles research on her.
Subhanallah
I would encourage people to check out Christian Prince on TH-cam if they want to see the true muhammad.
Shall we check out Sheikh Uthman, Zeeshan, The Muslim cowboy, Blogging Theology, and Muhammad Hijab if we want to see the true Christianity?😂
Why even the question? these people are crazy. Did Marry Maria live 600 years? Why even toy with this?
😭😭why do you lie? Honestly what's the point of religion is the truth is hidden. The reason why Muslims lie about Maria incident because it can debunk the entire religion. Anyone interested in the true story let me know I will provide you full evidence.
Am interested
You tell me the story
We all know the truth.. these scholars try to white wash the bad sounding stuff, look how nervously he speaks about it but no one was nervous back then they were openly doing it
I once heard an Islamic pakistani scholar mulana tariq jameel say the names of all of Mohammad’s Goats . How come they don’t know the names of Muhammad’s wifes
Tariq Jameel knows more about goats than muhammeds out of wedlock child.
Love the Seriesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
@Islamabadi Atheist
Your understanding beautiful lol
Plz show us the literature , dont mix your mind here.😂
Sahih Bukhari 2739
Javed Ahmad Ghamidi sir has beautifully explained this topic....Allah has beautifully dealt with this already prevailing oppression i,e slavery.
Please
Send link or name of video
S1avery wasn't banned.
@soldier of God
Yeh I no
Apartment 🙄
God does what He wills, none can challenge Him. Boss is always right.
If you don't want to be enslaved, then don't break the commdments, don't reject the Quran.
yes you are right . God does what he wills and that is why God send His only son for cleaning human sin. I think god will send His only daughter next year to vanish all of us!!
@@sobursobur1403 This is confusing, you said his only son, that mean god has one son, but the Old testament tells that Adam is son of god and many other Prophets so that mean god has many sons but that contradicts what said previously, may you can say that those are not "real sons" but just to mean "righteous" people, but why you don't apply it to Jesus, so he is righteous man and not a true son of god as you claimed.
Already it's not befit to God to have a Son/Daugther
@@save_sudan_and_palestine I understand you.
Nobel means with money only matters
Concubines in Islam 🤨🤨
Do we gift women in Islam?
Ofcourse
Any object can be gifted in islam if it is halal
@@DownShiftedso Muslims see women as objects?
A woman is an object? @@DownShifted
@@sau2949 according to Islam yes.
Not convincing...
U dont need to
Sick 🤮
honestly I am becoming obsessed with god. I donot understand how a kind loving god dont care to bother us telling the real message. my christian friend think they found the truth which is joke to me and what i believe is a joke for my christian friend and my hindu friend. i am very very very very confused as well as angry to dear loving god. i am beginning to think ...........................
My Brother dont be bothered that much as well as you prayed to Allah kneel down and pray to God the father of Jesus Christ, He promised us to be called children of God, its better to be called Children of God than slaves of Allah in Muslim
Don't get angry, looks like you're moving towards agnosticism.
@@WaterWalkers01 nop, it's so much better to be called a slave of Allah/God than to be called the cHiLdReNs of God(it is so offensive and disrespectful to say that God has childrens)
@@seven-zw1ct
You’re a Muslim so you won’t get it.
You will never know the feeling going before God in prayer and referring to Him as, “Father.”
The prophets of the Old Testament referred to God as Father and the disciples of Jesus Christ did the same in the New Testament.
Muhammed claimed that he was sent by this same God, yet He isn’t a father.
Isn’t it interesting?
He seemed confused an went all over was trying to avoid the answer
Does this mean that having concubines and multiple wives is acceptable, even now is Islam? Or explain why the Quran (the literal word of Allah) is timeless.
Yes
What a shame less prophet. The lady asked him two time why not Mohammad married with maria captia instead of giving answer he dragging hare and there .
Tap dancing. That's all they do🕺
this shows how carnal this religion is, taking about wife's and concubines in the present life and after life. There is no spirituality whatsoever. just a bunch of rules and regulation and few pagan traditions.
True