New Machine Tool day! Have you seen these tools before?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.พ. 2023
- This week I share a new machine tool that was added to the shop and I share some strange tools that were made to make jobs easier or to expand the usefulness of machine tools you already have.
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Steve, in the late ‘70’s I worked in a pre-CNC machine shop. My friend worked as a tool and die maker and so he operated one of the SFM-type grinders. Our company used some extremely heavy-duty multi-spindle turret machines like Wickmans. He routinely would precision-grind tools with machines such as these. I remember him using the profile viewer as well. Cool tool indeed!
The circle cutter actually works pretty well, but the fore/aft adjustment is critical. The point has to be right at or very slightly ahead of the blade teeth. Also on my DoAll I use the on/off as a master power switch for the saw but I added a foot switch for the blade. I figured that if something goes bad with the saw I didn’t want to try to get out of the blade and over to the switch. Something happens, I step back, blade stops.
I added a foot switch to my drill press for the exact same reason. Best upgrade I have made for a long time.
@@richardl4556 same here!
A 'dead mans' or a kick to stop?
Seeing Cora enjoying herself made me smile. Lost my shop buddy this week
Sorry to hear that.
Sorry to hear that. They don't last like they should. Hard to let go of good friends
@@SteveSummers thanks
@@dcollins4679 thank you been tough
Very sorry to hear of your loss. We're blessed while we have them.
"Steve Gets a New Toy!" 👍🏻😁🤣
Truely skilled men that designed and made those machines.
That grinder performance is jaw-dropping. Amazing machine.
Steve I love your shop videos, but ive absolutely feel for your dog Cora, shes a real sweetheart and reminds me how much I miss my dog Lady, one of the best dogs that ever lived. Cora seems like such a well behaved good natured pup, Id love to have one just like her
When I saw how much those balancing stands cost, I went in another direction. I bought an accelerometer sensor ($5) for an Arduino microcontroller and was able to dynamically balance it. I made a plate so I could add weights around the perimeter and moved them until the vibrations were reduced as much as possible. It really improved the surface quality of my ground finishes.
That is a really cool idea. You should send me a photo of the setup. I would like to see it
@@SteveSummers I sent you some pics.
As an apprentice I had the opertunity to use a machine similar to this. Was very satisfying to use to turn a tray of dull drills and end mills back into usefull tools.
First thing that came to mind seeing that was rifling broach fluting. That built in optical comparator is the neatest thing since sliced bread on a shop tool. It's really a tool station. Good investment
I used to machine miniature heart surgery devices for a catheter type instrument. Optical comparators were our only means of inspecting tiny parts with tolerances in tenths of thousandths of an inch.
1/2 my day every day was spent looking through a microscope to inspect and deburr parts.
I'm pretty sure it's SENECA Sen-a-ca Falls Machine co. Once located about 45 miles north of me at the north end of Seneca Lake and nearby Geneva, NY. Gone now, they built engine lathes and other machine tools for 100+ years.
28:20 Sounds great!! - wind that up enough the workshop goes into warp factor nine, please Mr. Sulu!
Holy Cow! that must have been one expensive tool in it's day. Nice addition for they guy who does not mind making his own tools. Outstanding Steve.
Hi Steve, as an amateur machinist I was so relieved to see how you balanced those grinding wheels. I made a balancing jig that works on the same principle as your commercial one and used it mainly on those horribly unbalanced wire wheels with excellent results. As there isn’t much to dill on a wire wheel I would add self tapping screws to the light side to even it up. What a difference that makes. Anyway I used the same jig to balance the wheel on my surface grinder and like you I drilled the stone to balance it. I thought it was probably a very shoddy way of doing it but I feel a whole lot better about it now. That grinder is an amazing piece of kit and I shudder to think what it cost new but I’m sure neither you or I could afford one. I love those Do-All accessories. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
Morning all!
That RO grinder was really something! Your demonstration spin-up of the grinding wheels to tens of thousands of RPM was amazing. Sort of like DARPA testing a new kinetic energy weapon.
It's scary fast. Putting on the wrong size wheel or a bent shank stone could = trouble quickly
NO JOKE.
I saw a 24" wheel explode on a surface grinder once. Fortunately I wasn't the one operating it. A big chunk of the wheel was imbedded in a wall.... Pretty impressive.
I also witnessed a CNC lathe crash and the large workpiece went through a wall and bounced off the 2nd wall.
The laws of motion and inertia MUST be respected.
That’s a very fancy grinding machine, I think you will enjoy learning to use it to it’s full potential. Good girl Cora. 👍
Amazing tool that I didnt know I wanted. Al comes through again. Bet even Stan was envious.
I like a man with so many machines that he has to use a stick to reach the on/off switch of some of them!
I think that new grinder is the perfect fit for you to enhance your grinding skills look forward to future videos.😀
@ 32:41 I use drills sharpened (not by me) with a point...
Saves me using a pilot drill when cutting soft metal;... Aluminium;... Copper Bus Bars to connect cable lugs...
& it eliminates the drill snatching;... digging in...
Spent many hours running one of those !
Need to add a dedicated grinding room to your shop - looks like a great side business.
Steve, Nice machine. Back in the 70's, I would periodically stop at a cutter grinder shop a few miles from our shop. Their shop was full of tools like this as their main business was end mill regrinding supporting the plethora of tool and die shops around at the time. Sad to say, most all are out of business and the cutter grinder with them. Ahh, the old days.
Christmas day makes a return! New machine tool day yippee! Good morning from the UK Cambridgeshire fens on a cloudy day!
That one machine is a whole business in itself.
A young man with a good attitude could easily make a nice living with it.
Awesome relief grinder! One only dare think at what it cost when new! You are a lucky man!
Phil
DoAll bandsaw an excellent piece of equipment,the add ons are great pieces probably thought up by consistent users of the machine.
I thought Keith Rucker's new mill was neat. Your new grinder tops it. Way cool.
About 35 years ago I worked in a shop that made heat exchangers. The tubesheets and baffles required hundreds to thousands of holes to be drilled, reamed, and grooved. About 90% of the time these were 3/4" diameter, occasionally 1". We would drill them using radial drills, and there wasn't a CNC machine in sight. We never drilled pilot holes as this would significantly increase the hours on a big tubesheet. The swarf was a pretty reliable indicator of when the bit was sharp and when it was dull enough to require sharpening. My recollection is that a sharp bit would eject swarf from both flutes of the bit evenly, and the swarf would not tend to break off unless you disengaged the feed and pulled the bit up a little. This is exactly what your sharpened bit did, so I reckon your grinder was working well. We had a similar grinder in the toolroom of that shop, although I don't remember the manufacturer of it. There was a lot of demand for heat exchangers at that time; the radial drills were in constant operation and the grinder was frequently in use to keep the bits sharp.
There was an old-timer in the town I grew up in that had a reputation for being able to sharpen everything and anything. He sharpened my old rotary Cooper Clipper. His garage shop was filled with machinery I could not identify. I would imagine that he had a cutter grinder of some sort and other specialty tools.
We can count on Steve & Keith Rucker to bring us such fasinating machines and one who has the needed skills to properly use them.
I found my Drill Doctor sulking in the corner after watching this....mumbling something about optical comparator's.....now I have to take him to to a psychologist ....thanks :)
The drill bit you sharpened was ground for drilling accurate holes through sheet metal without drama.
Hey Steve. Nice find on the SFM grinder. You are lucky to get it fully tooled. I can't imagine trying to find all those accessories on ebay. Well maybe I can....
All the best,
Tom
Thanks for stopping by Tom, good to see you. It wouldn't be easy to find tooling for this grinder anywhere. They don't seem to be all that common.
If you're going to balance a grinding wheel, you need a wheel hub with adjustable weights. I don't think there's enough money in the universe to get me to stand in front of that
grinding wheel after you've drilled into the side of it.
I quit watching after seeing what he did to that grinding wheels 😮😢 (don't forget that those wheels are about as Fragile as a china plate)
32 years precision grinding and i have never once balanced a normal 7" diameter surface grinding wheel less than 1 inch wide. Not only have I not done it but no one i have ever worked with has ever done it. No shop i have been ever! Sure seems popular with youtubers though.
Very cool that's the only 2nd one I've seen I thought it'd be fun to learn how to use that Thanks for the video
Wow Steve! By finding and refurbishing all of this shop equipment, you now have an amazing shop. Then with everything you learned in the process, you have a wealth of knowledge. Now you have completed the trifecta by being able to turn every old dull tool that you find, in to a brand new cutting tool or make anything you need. When the SHTF you will rule the world. I'm proud of you!
If you make a ‘Tool Dork’ t-shirt, I will buy it.
They are in the works😁
Lincoln Electric made a similar etching device years ago. My Father had one in his tool box. It was 12 volt. You tied one alligator clip to the positive and one ground lead to the battery ground. I used it a couple of times and it was perfectly able to mark your parts or tools.
Great shop also like the square body in the back round .
amazing grinder, so lucky to find one and one that is complete like that
Ho Lee Cow! How have I never heard of an RO grinder? Great vid as usual Steve.
Good afternoon Steve 😊 like your new toys.
Looks like a good side gig sharpening tools for folks.
Very nice machine! Al done did it again! I bet Vintage Machinery is drooling 😁
It would take a masters degree in the school of a lifetime, to master the art of that grinder!! You could use that 8 hours a day for 30yrs and still find a feature possibilities that would surprise even the most seasoned veteran…
You are very lucky in life. So glad you are sharing all this. My dad watches the History Channel and other crap. All those shows are about people screwing others or rooting for someone to fail. I would much rather watch you,Keith Adam, Clark, Quinn, This Old Tony, Mister Pete, the list goes on. All of you bring positive into the day. You show your struggles and mistakes and persevere through them. All of us are rooting for you. I think the big thing is that we all want to do what you do and when we start you would root for us too.
I'm a machinist who also enjoys history. History isnt all bad! I'd agree, the History channel isn't that great. I prefer reading books.
On our own we can do small (or large) things that can make our daily world a better place to live. Make 'history' on your own.
During my school years, history were some of my favorite classes, besides math and shop class.
History can help us learn why things are and how we've become what we are. We can also use history to learn from the mistakes of others.
I've often used the 'history' of my own and other's fabrication
experience to become a better machinist.
Years ago the History Channel was petty good but now it's in the toilet far as I'm concerned. Much better here..
this was wonderful Steve....cheers from Florida, Paul
Good morning Cora and Steve, your videos always put a smile on my face 😀. Thank you for sharing that awesome tool/cutter grinder.
I’ve never seen a machine like that but I think it is great. I wish you good luck on the machine. Great video.
Al came through again, fantastic picking. Great demonstration. My dad had a etching hand wand that used a 12 volt battery. As a kid I don’t know how it worked but tried to use it and destroyed a deep cycle marine battery. I was using it on the steel weld table and set it down to long. Thanks for sharing.
The spindle sounds wicked Steve!
I went to the Seneca Falls Machine Company when the new owner of the building was auctioning the last few pieces of the equipment. There was one exactly like this in a corner and literally a wall of those cams. I guess they might be masters because I remember them being a bit larger in size.
I've seen an etching tool used for re-marking the material type on offcuts after cutting, and before they go back into material storage, that way you don't have to guess if you have a piece of 4140 stock etc. Only drawback I'm aware of is rust can obscure the etching if it's in storage too long...
Is there anything that machine can't do? Amazing. Thanks for letting us take a look!
Great video. Awesome grinder. Thank you for sharing.
That Detroit drill bit is a Wood cutting bit.
Made for drilling in wood.
Steve, a great mix of content and my Saturday morning is now complete. Thank You.
😆 loading up a pickup load of drills, taps, reamers, countersinks, and all the other dull things. That way you don't run out of things to practice on 🤣😂. A great addition to your shop 👍 looking forward to learning it with you. I'm still trying to learn my tool and cutter grinder.
Wonderful video and thanks for sharing 👍
That work light is awesome Steve.
That grinder neat machine indeed
A truly amazing piece of kit. I hope you share more of the learning experience.
That grinder is cool AF. Thanks for the video Steve!
Cool machine! Thanks for sharing, looking forward to what that can do. As always: 👍👍
Thank you for sharing. Very nice grinder. Enjoyed the video.👍
Thanks for another great video, Steve. That grinder is pretty sweet! I especially liked the DoAll's take on the circle cutter. Gives me ideas for my wood cutting bandsaw!
Cheers!
Awesome as Always... Great update some really cool stuff there...
Nice new tools! Thanks for sharing.
Nice machine and like the new tools for the shop. Thanks for sharing.
That’s a very nice addition to your tool grinding kit!
Well done 👍
good video steve and Elizabeth
Very cool machine Steve thanks for sharing
Always a relaxing and learning Saturday when your video comes out. Greatly appreciate them.
All those cool tools and cameos from Cora!
Thank you Steve!
“…and cool. If you’re a tool dork, I guess.”
I feel seen 😂
Don't feel alone 😄
Fabulous new grinder Steve. Neat the way the cams are profiled on both the radial and axial sides.
OK Steve, that has to be one of the cooler machines that I have seen in some time. Not to mention the condition and how well outfitted it is. Thanks for sharing.
When you said Treppaning tools I laughed out loud. Then looked it up, and it wasn't for skulls, lol. Cool tool though dude, never seen one before.
You could end up making a whole video series of grinding cutters, drilling tool bits.There has to be a galaxy of possibilities with your new to you machine,even creating your own cutting tools!Hope we see this again,I know this could be a dry ,boring topic for some, but cutting tools are an artform ,thank you.
The first thing (besides shop safety) ANY machinist student should learn is to hand grind tool bits and drills to learn cutting action and how a chip is formed.
Cool tools!
Never knew how those extra shapes were ground into the bits / mills / reamers.
Didn't know such a machine existing. Awesome video.
very nice adds to the shop
Awesome machine. I found myself reaching for my safety glasses when you turned it on…..
Good morning. That is one handy machine. Congratulation on getting it. Have a great week ahead.
The Relief Grinder is one of those machines you could spend your whole working life running and still not do everything that can be done on it.
I have a drill grinding machine that does twist drills in pretty much the same way, though only two axis of movement but it has inbuilt cams for 2, 3 or 4 flute drills, it is so nice to be able to quickly sharpen a large drill and get perfect even cutting edges.
Love the new tools!
Superb machine…
that is one awesome grinder.
Thanks for the video Steve and what a good machine added to the shop. Fletch from the UK
Steve, instead of fracturing the wheel by drilling on it, make an outer ring that presses on to the arbor that is drilled and tapped as close a possible say every 10° then use various set screws in length and material as balancing weights. I have these for each of mine Kind of like the adjustable balance weight arbors.. My process is mount, true up, balance, true up, balance then grind. each step affects the wheel's ability to chatter, so in my case, older cheep Taiwanese grinder i get my best finishes by this process.
What an amazing find Steve!
Some great new tools for the shop there Steve, well done!
Hi Steven I work currently at IDE Machine in Cayuga, NY and we bought royal oak grinders and still build and refurbish them regularly.. I have seen many of these machines come and go .. yours is bit older with a lot of sweet add ons . Not many like ur take care of it.. if you ever need any parts for her .. I still make alot of them regularly…!!!
First Cora said "cant you see im busy doing dog business. Second that is about the coolest drill bit sharpening machine ive ever seen. I bet there could be a solid income on just running that guy a couple a days a week. You will never suffer drilling with a dull bit again, and all those dull ones will be better than new again.
Great for marking different types steel cut offs
Let's see you top that Drill Doctor.
Thanks for the flashback " cleaning a grinder "..! Coolent flood tank on a 26 inch diameter, 4 inch thick wheel with a 24 foot bed cylindrical grinder every 4 to 6 weeks .. the goop got everywhere . I do Love the toolroom grinder.. and love the channel each Saturday morning is the first channel that I look for.
Thank you 😊