Thank you for letting me know, upon further review it appears that some business class pictures have been used on the Virgin Atlantic part of the video, and for that i appoligize. However most clips and pictures in this video are stil from the Premium Economy Class.
@@AviationLifestyle The Emirates section opens with a shot of the business class seats. The meal shown is business class not premium economy, and the bar that appears at the end of the section is only for business and first class passengers too.
I don't see the point to upgrade. My last trip to Paris on Air France last month we upgraded to premium economy and it was a scam from air france. We don't see and feel any difference in comfort and seat size besides we can select the seats at booking and allowed 2 checked in suitcases each ticket. Anyway we never sleep on our flight no matter how long it takes. Paying business or first class is a waste of money. You really pay at least 10k for a package meal, a few glasses of wine, a lay flat couch during a 12 hours flight??? that make you a weak a** not able to handle a trip in a normal way. I would use the money to dine at Michelin restaurants and shopping at Harrod
Yes, you are correct, you have a good eye! I have accidently used some footage I was going to use on my next video on business class airlines of 2023. I apologies for the mistake, but thanks for letting me know!
Did you show business class seats toward the end though (for Virgin Atlantic)? You showed two kinds and now I'm not sure if that was Premium or Business
I've flown Turkish Air premium economy. It has a separate cabin, larger seats, more recline and legroom, electronically adjustable leg rest, and upgraded amenities. It's far from restrooms but close to a galley. I recommend.
I hated Air France premium economy. The fixed shell seats have ZERO RECLINE. It’s fine for a day flight, but we took a red eye (sfo to Paris) and paid $$$ for a chance to get some sleep. No dice. It was by far the most uncomfortable seat I’ve ever had. I’ll never fly AF Premium Economy again, regardless of how nice the free socks & toothbrush were.
Not sure why you are showing pictures of Virgin Atlantic “Upper Class” but talking about their Business Class. It would be more representative if you showed photos of VA’s Premium Economy seats.
I would have ranked Lufthansa much lower simply because of the lack of a divider between premium and economy class. Anything that lessens my chance of having to listen to an arguing couple or a screaming child behind me is totally worth it.
A someone mentioned in the comments below. Their is a mistake, especially in the virgin Atlantic part of the film where business class footage is shown. Somehow footage from a other video got mixed into the loop. My bad!
Lots of photos of business class seats instead of premium economy. On the #3 Qantas...which was mispronounced, BTW...the first photo showed the new premium economy seats but after that it all the old/current seats. I've sat in them and it was very familiar.
I must be the only one that could care less about how big the screen is, meal served or access to the lounge with premium seats? All I want is my head not to bob as I try to sleep😂. I just want to hear how much recline I’ll get for an extra $400. 😢
What about Japan Airlines, better than most shown and only ANA and JAL of all the airlines give you business class lounge access if flying premium economy and even economy flex fare. I wouldn't take much notice of this review when deciding which to choose I'm sorry to say.
Agreed. Just flew JAL to India and Tokyo from Nashville and it is right up there with Virgin. We flew Virgin to Europe last summer, and I give them the nod on comfort level, but JAL gets the nod on food. It was amazing and plentiful. Service on both was fantastic. American Premium Economy was awful, all the way around.
So you were giving mis-information. You were taking about Premium economy seats on Virgin Atlantic and was showing their Upper Class also known as Business class seats. Only showing the premium class towards the end. I would however say the price is competitive especially of you have Flying Club card, as you can transfer points from retails such as Boots and points from your American Express card. The transfer is immediate an shows on you account.. As long as you have the right points you just pay the taxes for the flight. My up and coming flight to the US cost me 48,500 points plus £540 for the taxes premium economy. Large leather purple seats, welcome drink, normally orange juice or wine, dinner on plates with cutlery, amenity kit, Hot chocolate as suppose to just tea and coffee. Food is normally good also and cabin crew friendly. Only downside now is that you have to pay to choose your seat, that use to be free🤥
Delta, Air New Zealand , Emirates (that interior just stunning and better than some airlines' business cabins) and Singapore were the leaders. I would say Virgin too but the pictures were not Premuim seats until the end.
The only issue with Emirates Premium Economy is that those prices are business class prices for other airlines(say Jfk to dxb) ill take an older seat that lie flat over newer upright seat next to someone anyday
Cathay pacific should be added. I loved it. Champagne upon seating,separate check in, electric reclining seats with calf rest and foot rest, plush blankets and pillows, toiletry kit with sleep mask, toothbrush,toothpaste, comb etc. Premium dinner menu with dessert, and separate bathroom which was nice.
Yes it should. Tried it once from LAX to MNL via HKG. The seats were wide, legroom was great, and that dedicated lavatory on their long-haul 777s was convenient. I also tried their business class on the HKG-MNL leg of the trip due to change of aircraft where we got upgraded because our seat numbers were not available on the aircraft, which happened to be the same 777 we flew in from LAX. We were originally supposed to fly on an A330. Now, that was some experience, even for a flight less than 2 hours. The only thing I don't like with Cathay and the majority of airlines with premium economy is because of the great 8" recline of the seats, the person behind is more affected, especially if a person in front of you keeps the seat reclined the entire flight, unlike JAL and a few others where they slide forward to recline.
Misleading surely? You were interspersing a lot of shots of business class products at the beginning....why? Also that Virgin product - which is very good - was misleading again again. Correct what it offers but the video was of the Upper Class product on A350! The actual seats were the final shot.
I agree with all of these, with one exception. Singapore airlines was BARELY a step above economy class. I'm absolutely baffled that they received the number 2 spot in this video...I'll never fly Singapore again. I feel like I paid prem economy price for a standard economy ticket.
The title of this review is misleading. This is a comparison of complete premium economy programs including food and amenities. I just wanted a comparison of the specific seats.
Delta is one of the worst premium economy products in the entire world. It literally is economy with a better seat. Not really any differentiated service. See AA and UA for the vast difference in meal service compared to Delta's
0:55 is when the yammering and idiotic commentary stops - and the actual topic people want to see, begins. 1:00 Delta 1:49 British Airways 2:25 Lufthansa (How does Lufthansa have less amenities, but ranked higher than Delta lol) 3:00 Air New Zealand 3:20 Air France 3:53 ANA 4:38 Emirates 5:14 Qantas 5:57 Singapore 6:39 Virgin Be Careful - sometimes the genius has pictures of First Class, while talking about Premium Economy - that is the case with Virgin. And one more I just can't remember. Anyhow, if you want to skip the hyper-high-school-kid babble to get to your airline, this guide might help.
Air NZ has all the elements you commented on in spades on ultra long haul. Seat pitch and recline is 41” & 9”. Your graphics do not reflect current PE content. What’s up?
Got to say British Airways depends very much if flying out of Heathrow otherwise its the older drab product. Has separate cabin + glass of bubbly + seperate check-in but not much else in my experience on the older/unrefurbished jets
Norse atlantic is missing in this list. While they may not make the top spot, the seat alone should put them well ahead of some other airlines on this list.
I flew premium economy on virgin atlantic and it was disgustins. The seat was comfortable but they seemed to have completely given up on hygiene. My screen was sticky from tge grubby fingeres of the last people on my seat and there were pieces of food down my seat. The blanket also had stains on it. It was gross
Very confusing for the novice viewer! Your mixing in forst class and business class footage with premium economy! How disappointing! I was hoping to learn something, and im more confused now!
it is more than ironic in my opinion, they were the one to start it all and I flew with them in early 90's in premium and they are still with the top ones.. Also JAL is not there ....!!!
Flew PE to Frankfurt via Lufthansa. The PE cabin is separated from Economy by a mesh blind and does not give the extra privacy you pay for. Air NZ was great and make you feel like the extra you pay for PE is worth it.
China Air flies A350-900 out of YVR to Asia, quite like their PE product. Pre-Covid could find deals around $1500 CAD return to BKK. Fixed seat that slides forward, 39" pitch I believe.
Just a small thing but, the vast majority of the pictures shown for Virgin Atlantic are of Upper Class, not Premium Economy, please don't book a flight based on these pictures, you will be disappointed.
I love United Premium economy and couldn’t believe it didn’t make the list. Except when they mistakenly showed a clip of United in flight entertainment during Deltas info.
You are 100% correct. Somehow footage from another video got mixed into the loop. And for that I am sorry. With that said, Virgin still has a great premium economy class!
Lots of wrong pictures showing business class seats instead of premium economy. These were selected in random, including the order. Lousy job putting together this video, and missed a lot of airlines with better premium economy service than most of the ones mentioned. JAL-which offers lounge access and seats that move forward when reclined so the person behind is unaffected, Cathay Pacific with a dedicated lavatory for premium, and a few others have been missed.
This is a very misleading video. The main picture on the video isn’t even a Premium economy seat, many of the seats shown aren’t even a Premium economy, but a first in business class. This is very misleading.
American Airlines from Frankfurt Germany to Dallas Texas in Main Cabin Extra was absolutely outstanding. The service and the food were on par. The aircraft was exceptional. The seat and entertainment was perfect for a 9 1/2 hour flight. Big ups to American Airlines for this service.
Don’t forget Hainan airlines, B787 with 22.5 inch wide seat and 38 inches of pitch, dedicated menu and alcoholic beverage. Def better than British airways.
What do you think which is the best premium economy seat ?? "Air New Zealand or Singapore Airlines" would you tell me about the question because I will book my ticket based on your opinion one of these Airlines.
The amount of business class footage used in this video makes it really confusing and, as a result, difficult to trust the recommendations. Sorry, this has to be a 👎 from me.
NO WAY BA deserves even 9th place, with dirty, badly cabins, missing and sometimes wholly absent catering, uncomfortable seating, essentially non-existent ground based customer service and unreliable, insecure IT systems as backup. Their service is #BeyondAbysmal, uncompetitive and #BestAvoided
Why show so many business class seats during the video??
Thank you for letting me know, upon further review it appears that some business class pictures have been used on the Virgin Atlantic part of the video, and for that i appoligize. However most clips and pictures in this video are stil from the Premium Economy Class.
@@AviationLifestyle The Emirates section opens with a shot of the business class seats. The meal shown is business class not premium economy, and the bar that appears at the end of the section is only for business and first class passengers too.
I don't see the point to upgrade. My last trip to Paris on Air France last month we upgraded to premium economy and it was a scam from air france. We don't see and feel any difference in comfort and seat size besides we can select the seats at booking and allowed 2 checked in suitcases each ticket. Anyway we never sleep on our flight no matter how long it takes. Paying business or first class is a waste of money. You really pay at least 10k for a package meal, a few glasses of wine, a lay flat couch during a 12 hours flight??? that make you a weak a** not able to handle a trip in a normal way. I would use the money to dine at Michelin restaurants and shopping at Harrod
Lolz 40% of the video is business class seats.
That’s deceiving people this video should be taken down
The Virgin Atlantic part was almost exclusively business class photos. This is very misleading about their product.
Yes, you are correct, you have a good eye! I have accidently used some footage I was going to use on my next video on business class airlines of 2023. I apologies for the mistake, but thanks for letting me know!
Yeah totally agree. The Virgin version of Buisness class was shown
Completely agree and very misleading to people that don't know! Not good
@@AviationLifestyle You forgot Austrian & Ava airlines.
Virgin Atlantic is showing the upper class product. The premium economy is not that good.
I agree with Virgin Atlantic as #1. I traveled with them 5 years ago in Premium Economy and it was worth every $$$.
Did you show business class seats toward the end though (for Virgin Atlantic)? You showed two kinds and now I'm not sure if that was Premium or Business
Spot on . This is not true information . 😮
Does Eva air go directly to Cebu City, P.I. Airport?
I've flown Turkish Air premium economy. It has a separate cabin, larger seats, more recline and legroom, electronically adjustable leg rest, and upgraded amenities. It's far from restrooms but close to a galley. I recommend.
Turkish got rid of their PE years ago
What was the route? :) They dont have premium
Are we talking about premium economy class? Why feature business class?
I hated Air France premium economy. The fixed shell seats have ZERO RECLINE. It’s fine for a day flight, but we took a red eye (sfo to Paris) and paid $$$ for a chance to get some sleep. No dice. It was by far the most uncomfortable seat I’ve ever had. I’ll never fly AF Premium Economy again, regardless of how nice the free socks & toothbrush were.
Not sure why you are showing pictures of Virgin Atlantic “Upper Class” but talking about their Business Class. It would be more representative if you showed photos of VA’s Premium Economy seats.
Why show business class seats for premium..confusing especially Virgin Atlantic.
I would have ranked Lufthansa much lower simply because of the lack of a divider between premium and economy class.
Anything that lessens my chance of having to listen to an arguing couple or a screaming child behind me is totally worth it.
A someone mentioned in the comments below. Their is a mistake, especially in the virgin Atlantic part of the film where business class footage is shown. Somehow footage from a other video got mixed into the loop. My bad!
Please remove the video or edit it .
Lots of photos of business class seats instead of premium economy. On the #3 Qantas...which was mispronounced, BTW...the first photo showed the new premium economy seats but after that it all the old/current seats. I've sat in them and it was very familiar.
I must be the only one that could care less about how big the screen is, meal served or access to the lounge with premium seats? All I want is my head not to bob as I try to sleep😂. I just want to hear how much recline I’ll get for an extra $400. 😢
Of course, comfortable seat is the most important part when you just want to get to good sleep : )
@@AviationLifestyle LOL thanks! So, with that said, did you get enough recline in Premium Economy not to need anything to keep your head back?
@@touristtea6076 well hard truth. Not really
@@AviationLifestyle sad but thanks much. The honesty is saving us $800 bucks 😉.
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Premium Economy is really made for tall, or big and tall passengers.
What about Japan Airlines, better than most shown and only ANA and JAL of all the airlines give you business class lounge access if flying premium economy and even economy flex fare. I wouldn't take much notice of this review when deciding which to choose I'm sorry to say.
Agreed. Just flew JAL to India and Tokyo from Nashville and it is right up there with Virgin. We flew Virgin to Europe last summer, and I give them the nod on comfort level, but JAL gets the nod on food. It was amazing and plentiful. Service on both was fantastic. American Premium Economy was awful, all the way around.
So you were giving mis-information. You were taking about Premium economy seats on Virgin Atlantic and was showing their Upper Class also known as Business class seats. Only showing the premium class towards the end. I would however say the price is competitive especially of you have Flying Club card, as you can transfer points from retails such as Boots and points from your American Express card. The transfer is immediate an shows on you account.. As long as you have the right points you just pay the taxes for the flight. My up and coming flight to the US cost me 48,500 points plus £540 for the taxes premium economy. Large leather purple seats, welcome drink, normally orange juice or wine, dinner on plates with cutlery, amenity kit, Hot chocolate as suppose to just tea and coffee. Food is normally good also and cabin crew friendly. Only downside now is that you have to pay to choose your seat, that use to be free🤥
Delta, Air New Zealand , Emirates (that interior just stunning and better than some airlines' business cabins) and Singapore were the leaders. I would say Virgin too but the pictures were not Premuim seats until the end.
True! Air New Zealand is great
Maybe it's me, but Singapore Airs Premium Economy seat killed my lower back.
The only issue with Emirates Premium Economy is that those prices are business class prices for other airlines(say Jfk to dxb) ill take an older seat that lie flat over newer upright seat next to someone anyday
Great vid but where’s united
How can I get the Link to sign up for Premium Economy Tickets?
I traveled with Cathy Pacific from Frankfurt to Hongkong and I just love the premium economy. very nice!
where is the JAL Premium economy?
Wondering the same thing...
It is definitely top two, right there with Virgin.
Cathay pacific should be added. I loved it. Champagne upon seating,separate check in, electric reclining seats with calf rest and foot rest, plush blankets and pillows, toiletry kit with sleep mask, toothbrush,toothpaste, comb etc. Premium dinner menu with dessert, and separate bathroom which was nice.
Yes it should. Tried it once from LAX to MNL via HKG. The seats were wide, legroom was great, and that dedicated lavatory on their long-haul 777s was convenient. I also tried their business class on the HKG-MNL leg of the trip due to change of aircraft where we got upgraded because our seat numbers were not available on the aircraft, which happened to be the same 777 we flew in from LAX. We were originally supposed to fly on an A330. Now, that was some experience, even for a flight less than 2 hours. The only thing I don't like with Cathay and the majority of airlines with premium economy is because of the great 8" recline of the seats, the person behind is more affected, especially if a person in front of you keeps the seat reclined the entire flight, unlike JAL and a few others where they slide forward to recline.
At least it’s the head on your face when front seat is reclined, not the feet.
no it shouldnt food & service is horrible and the triple 7 sucks
Love Qatar and Turkish Airline
Totally agree!
@@AviationLifestyle Qatar don't have premium economy on any of their planes?
This is fun to see because flying domestically absolutely sucks.
Misleading surely? You were interspersing a lot of shots of business class products at the beginning....why? Also that Virgin product - which is very good - was misleading again again. Correct what it offers but the video was of the Upper Class product on A350! The actual seats were the final shot.
We will going to Bangkok soon, I like Eva air PE, why is not in the list?
Is there a flight , like Eva Air or JAL that goes to Cebu City, Philippines?
I think there is a middle-east airlines that fly directly to Cebu from their homeairport, Qatar or Turkish???
Great, love the video!
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Miss information showing business class instead of premium economy stop deceiving the public
I agree with all of these, with one exception. Singapore airlines was BARELY a step above economy class. I'm absolutely baffled that they received the number 2 spot in this video...I'll never fly Singapore again. I feel like I paid prem economy price for a standard economy ticket.
Does American Airlines go to Cebu City, Philippines? 😮😮😮
Where does Air Canada's Premium Economy sit in the rankings?
ah,ah,ah,ah,,, at the bottom of the list, like their service and reliability....top zero!
What the deference between this class and first class
Premium economy is the poor man's business class. Above economy and below business class. It's not bad at all.
First class takes all your money! Premium Economy is good for your economy ; )
LOT - Polish Airlines has a nice, separate Premium Economy cabin 👌
Everyone says LOT is great!
The title of this review is misleading. This is a comparison of complete premium economy programs including food and amenities. I just wanted a comparison of the specific seats.
Why do you show business class seats in your introduction?
Delta is one of the worst premium economy products in the entire world.
It literally is economy with a better seat. Not really any differentiated service. See AA and UA for the vast difference in meal service compared to Delta's
0:55 is when the yammering and idiotic commentary stops - and the actual topic people want to see, begins.
1:00 Delta
1:49 British Airways
2:25 Lufthansa (How does Lufthansa have less amenities, but ranked higher than Delta lol)
3:00 Air New Zealand
3:20 Air France
3:53 ANA
4:38 Emirates
5:14 Qantas
5:57 Singapore
6:39 Virgin
Be Careful - sometimes the genius has pictures of First Class, while talking about Premium Economy - that is the case with Virgin. And one more I just can't remember.
Anyhow, if you want to skip the hyper-high-school-kid babble to get to your airline, this guide might help.
Air NZ has all the elements you commented on in spades on ultra long haul. Seat pitch and recline is 41” & 9”. Your graphics do not reflect current PE content. What’s up?
Got to say British Airways depends very much if flying out of Heathrow otherwise its the older drab product. Has separate cabin + glass of bubbly + seperate check-in but not much else in my experience on the older/unrefurbished jets
you need to show more of the premium economy seats instead of business class
Norse atlantic is missing in this list. While they may not make the top spot, the seat alone should put them well ahead of some other airlines on this list.
It´s worthless this top 10 list video. It seems Virgin paid for it because only Virgin business class footage is used to describe EP .
I flew premium economy on virgin atlantic and it was disgustins. The seat was comfortable but they seemed to have completely given up on hygiene. My screen was sticky from tge grubby fingeres of the last people on my seat and there were pieces of food down my seat. The blanket also had stains on it. It was gross
Very confusing for the novice viewer! Your mixing in forst class and business class footage with premium economy! How disappointing! I was hoping to learn something, and im more confused now!
ANA…. Agree !!!
Any one of top 5 are way better than rest!
Ironic that the airline that introduced the Premium Economy Class does not make it to this list
it is more than ironic in my opinion, they were the one to start it all and I flew with them in early 90's in premium and they are still with the top ones.. Also JAL is not there ....!!!
Why showing business class seats for Virgin atlantic as Premium economy, this seems like paid and fake advertisement
Misleading video, views include mostly business classes, and where is Japan Airlines? Surely THE best PE.
That’s what I thought too
Let us know if we missed any, or if you disagree with our list!
Flew PE to Frankfurt via Lufthansa. The PE cabin is separated from Economy by a mesh blind and does not give the extra privacy you pay for. Air NZ was great and make you feel like the extra you pay for PE is worth it.
@@andrewandjoanhart7882 Great tips! Air NZ is awesome!
PLEASE update this. Singapore Airlines was an absolute joke!!
Swiss Airlines?? United?
China Air flies A350-900 out of YVR to Asia, quite like their PE product. Pre-Covid could find deals around $1500 CAD return to BKK. Fixed seat that slides forward, 39" pitch I believe.
Virgin and BA are big question marks. Service is not consistent between crews.
#1 Virgin Atlantic is not the correct class in video. Shown is the Upper Class. I know it has been acknowledged below, but still.
Just a small thing but, the vast majority of the pictures shown for Virgin Atlantic are of Upper Class, not Premium Economy, please don't book a flight based on these pictures, you will be disappointed.
You missed lots of other good airlines. When you mentioned United, it makes me laugh.
Haha! thanks!
I love United Premium economy and couldn’t believe it didn’t make the list. Except when they mistakenly showed a clip of United in flight entertainment during Deltas info.
Those Virgin seats are their “Upper Class” , not PREMIUM!!!
You are 100% correct. Somehow footage from another video got mixed into the loop. And for that I am sorry. With that said, Virgin still has a great premium economy class!
Lots of wrong pictures showing business class seats instead of premium economy. These were selected in random, including the order. Lousy job putting together this video, and missed a lot of airlines with better premium economy service than most of the ones mentioned. JAL-which offers lounge access and seats that move forward when reclined so the person behind is unaffected, Cathay Pacific with a dedicated lavatory for premium, and a few others have been missed.
You should fix the video to reflect what you are actually talking about.
This is a very misleading video. The main picture on the video isn’t even a Premium economy seat, many of the seats shown aren’t even a Premium economy, but a first in business class. This is very misleading.
American Airlines from Frankfurt Germany to Dallas Texas in Main Cabin Extra was absolutely outstanding. The service and the food were on par. The aircraft was exceptional. The seat and entertainment was perfect for a 9 1/2 hour flight. Big ups to American Airlines for this service.
Isn’t main cabin extra just extra leg room? It’s not premium economy which is what this video highlights.
Don’t forget Hainan airlines, B787 with 22.5 inch wide seat and 38 inches of pitch, dedicated menu and alcoholic beverage. Def better than British airways.
Maybe not the pilots, though...
I Love The Fixed-Back Shell Seat On Air France A330.And China Airliness A350-900-And B777-3000
What do you think which is the best premium economy seat ?? "Air New Zealand or Singapore Airlines"
would you tell me about the question because I will book my ticket based on your opinion one of these Airlines.
Wow, showing Virgin Upper Class as Premium economy surely negates the point of the video. Very disappointing.
Don't be fooled. Most of the pictures in the video portray Business Class seats.
Where is Eva
Singapore Airlines is the best
This is nonsense click bait. So many errors.
Fake. What they show as premium on Virgin Atlantic are actual Upper class and cost double.
china airlines premium economy is not bad if i say so myself
A very misleading video when you keep cutting to business class seats throughout.
Silly video. Most photos are of Business Class sections.
a pity that a lot of the footage is not premium economy giving one a false image.
The amount of business class footage used in this video makes it really confusing and, as a result, difficult to trust the recommendations. Sorry, this has to be a 👎 from me.
NO WAY BA deserves even 9th place, with dirty, badly cabins, missing and sometimes wholly absent catering, uncomfortable seating, essentially non-existent ground based customer service and unreliable, insecure IT systems as backup. Their service is #BeyondAbysmal, uncompetitive and #BestAvoided
they should codeshare with Air Crapnada, they are same
Lufthansa has worst food and services for flights from Denver
Oh dear....so much of this video is Business Class...
Your videos are misleading. Showing business as premium economy. Who paid you?
None of this explains the differences in Premium Economy flights; who cares about the pillow, video display, foot rests. Get to the "Premium" seating
United PE is better than both Delta and AF.