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Song Link: • Man-Erg (2005 Digital ...
A masterpiece from one of the most progressive bands of all time.
It's great to see someone relatively new to this genre identifying how unique and great Van Der Graaf Generator are. One of the most overlooked bands. They scare people.
If you like Pawn Hearts, then the Peter Hammill solo albums Chameleon in the Shadow of night, The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage,, and In Camera comes recommended. The other VDGG members also played on them.
Man-erg is an anagram of German. The band toured Europe extensively in the early 70's, even Mannheim on a rainy Saturday. Hammill likes wordplay, and German Overalls on Chameleon alludes to Deutschland über alles. I always felt that this is in part his way of trying to deal with the cognitive dissonance that arises when you try to equate the ordered friendly people of Germany with the large scale horrors perpetrated during WWII. Bear in mind that in the early 70's, the war was still very much part of the British psyche.
P.S. this is also my all time number one song.
For whatever reason - newcomers react favorably to Man-erg. The next song on the album (Plague) will be a more challenging song. Harder to fully appreciate on the first listen. Most people that I knew when first hearing VdGG back in the 70's - we needed many listens. And always know this - VdGG was played about NEVER on fm radio here in Los Angeles. It was just VdGG and our turntable. Well you finally did it! You and other fresh new ears have been exposed - Man-erg will once again draw new fans to this most enigmatic of prog bands. Hammill sings about real world/human issues not so much about elves and knights and fantasy. This album was released before Nursery Cryme - Genesis was at this time touring with VdGG - with VdGG being the headliner.
Yes, the lyrics are so profound and personal. Peter is not talking about the general human condition but about himself. And hence - about the general human condition.
I have always wondered if US radio would have just played the first 2 minutes and 50 seconds and chopped the rest off.
@@markmaxwell1013 As a listener of fm radio here in Los Angeles and an am listener since 1964 - I never heard one second of VdGG or PH on radio.
Man I would've loved to see Genesis and Vdgg together
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In my opinion Man-Erg is a tiny smidge above Lighthouse Keepers, but both are pretty much perfect.
Arguably the best song on a 5-star album where every song is strong. That riff stays with you. Great arrangement. Banton's church like organ is beautiful.
"Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" will be a lot to take in and comment on with a first listen.
Robert Fripp is contributing texture to this album.
VdGG and Hammill can be an intense listening experience. "Fools Mate", Hammill's first solo album, has some songs with rare humor. "Imperial Zeppelin" - check it out.
Yeah… I would like to have an analyse of Imperial Zeppelin, as a French man I'm not sure I interpreted it correctly…
It's a critique of the hippie idealism to leave society and form a new system where love reigns. The song admits such idealism will not work.
JP would have fun listening to Hammill's 1975 proto-punk album. "Nadir's Big Chance".
This is probably the most insightful critique of a VDDG song I've ever heard, read, or watched. Especially with its being Man Erg, which is a hot contender for my favourite song ever. Great job, JP. I can't wait to watch more of your output.
also, yes Justin, A plague of lighthouse keepers is even better. it is, in my humble opinion, the greatest piece of music ever written.
I agree. This is VDGG's Supper's ready with a little more research on term of musical atmosphere and on the emotional experience of the theme.
Yves Lamothe me 3. Btw, when done with plague try to find time to listen to Slogans by Steve Hackett. There’s a very good reason to do this asap.
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One of; that's for sure! It's up there with Thick as A Brick, or Revealing Science of God (Yes), Awaken, A passion Play, Supper's Ready, The Lamb Album...IMHO...Childlike Faith in Childhoods End is more profound that Plague...But; I have 40 years of loving them so it jumps around with their stuff...Still Life is so profound! La Rossa! forgetaboutit...:D...
Outstanding song. One of my favorites from them.
I was so happy when I saw this video drop! This song is where I fell totally in love with the band. When they played this at their first reunion concert in 2005, I almost broke down in tears!
I also thought that I would add... I don't know where you found the lyrics, but I think they are not quite correct. Those last lines are more outward looking. According to the "official" lyrics on Sofa Sound, it should be "Killers, angels, all are these", reminding us that everyone has these sides to them.
I would too! This one is just otherworldly
I’ve been waiting for this one! The lines ‘But then his eyes will rise and stare through mine, he'll speak my words and slice my mind inside’ are truly terrifying, I knew you’d react to that and I wasn't disappointed!
Great review of a great song. I've been listening to this album for years and it's good to see it still making an impact 50 years down the line.
Ty Arne, great line
My favourite line from my my Favourite VdGG song. So powerful but at the same time vulnerable. It really takes pure genius to write a line like this. Hammill really is a towering figure in ''prog'' ? rock lyricism.
Saw VdGG back in the early 70s and their last song of the set was Man-Erg and the audience (in Munich) was speechless at the end.
That's how unique Peter Hammill and crew are.
The way that they can play polyrhythms in parallel is mind-bending. You may not know this but the sax player, David Jaxon, typically played two saxes at the same time. It is like their musical compositions were created in different tempos. The band really liked that they were "allowed to experiment as long as they met up with Peter Hammill once in a while."
I saw them around 1972, in Watford, supporting Hawkwind, and I was blown away, they were amazing, the guy playing 2 saxes, weird sound effects from the keyboards, all interwoven. I went out and bought Pawn Hearts and recognized this track from the gig - its a really good album.
When I saw your reaction to Firth of Fifth on the other channel, I thought if this guy digs it a little deeper into the prog and lands on Man Erg, his mind will explode! Then, I found your solo channel and followed you since and now, on this morning of grace, you arrived at this masterpiece. Your reaction moved me and comforted me in what I believe to be your musical sensitivity. Continue your awsome work and your explorations on the prog univers !
I totally agree. Justin is a rear gem in this artificial and subscribers-orientaded TH-cam-world. As in many cases, also here less is more. But I do hope you hit 10 K soon. Thick as a Brick, watch out!
Firth of Fifth was also the first reaction of JP I ever saw. Now I watch everyday.
@@HippoYnYGlaw haha I forgot he mentioned that.
Aw ty Yves! And yeah, my mind was totally blown on this one!💥
To be honest, since I was watching JustJP for the first time and anticipating yet another "first reaction" video, I was waiting for him to jump out of his seat and grab the fire extinguisher when the the 11/8 mayhem riff crashed into his headphones.
I certainly got that one wrong.
When the ‘slashing’ section from the middle of the song intrudes upon (and then swallows up) the brighter, main section....just a fantastic and creative move!
Right?!
An awesome song from an awesome album. Best prog album ever?
The album of my life.
@@Eduardo-Ferreira1982 really ? Wow that must be a wild life.
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Ahah, no, not at all.
So good to see someone in a younger generation (with respect) being impacted by and appreciating Van Der Graff Generator as my friends and I were over 40 years ago. Well done and DO keep exploring this truly exceptional band.
Thanks Anthony!
Hi Justin. My name is Greg Davis, and for some reason I can only comment here through my wife's account. I'm a third shift custodian at Disneyland Resort and have been furloughed since mid March. I discovered your channel about a month ago, and, man, are you helping me deal with this pandemic! I'll be sixty in January, and while my musical tastes are all over the place, Seventies prog is my musical comfort food. I've watched a few other reaction vid people but I enjoy you the most because you aren't hitting the pause button every fifteen seconds. You are covering music that has been lifeblood to me for the better part of a half century, and I can't tell you how much joy I derive from watching your facial expressions when you are really clicking with it. My favorite part of the day right now is when evening falls, I have a favorite libation on hand and I check out your latest. I don't have to think about any of the myriad things that are driving me crazy, and it just feels like I'm hanging out with a friend. I absolutely cannot wait for you to do "A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers". A couple songs I'd like to throw at you here are "The Porpoise Song" by The Monkees and "The Journey" by Mott The Hoople. No big hurry on my end. And an album I would love to see you tackle is Stevie Wonder's "Innervisions", which, in addition to being a flawless masterpiece (IMOHO), has one of the greatest album closers ever, including a gloriously extended fade out. Thank you so much for what you are doing here, it is greatly appreciated, and I'm glad to finally say hello!
Hey there Greg! First off, thank you so much for your words and for enjoying the channel so much. I'm sorry to hear things has been pretty rough, and I only wish you the best and that your days be a little brighter 🔆
Van der Graaf have aged well. They were more interested in group dynamics, drama, and emotional rawness than just instrumental showmanship. It's fantastic.
This one and "Sleepwalkers" are my favs.
So so true. They were so much more than just the sum of their parts - even if those parts were incredible and unique.
Also they have as you so rightly say aged very well and the group dynamics and especially the lyrics definitely set them apart from all other prog bands.
I bought Pawn Hearts when I was 13 and this track instantly took me to another world. Admittedly, APOLK and Lemmings took me a bit longer to get into but once I did, I never looked back and still play at least one track a week every week 50 years later.
Footnote : Sleepwalkers is also insanely good.
@@neilparnell5712 Plague is the only track on that record that I have mixed feelings about. It was written written by a very young man who was struggling to express huge feelings and thoughts, and some of the words lack finesse. But when it works, it really works, and Custard's Last Stand into Clot Thickens into We Go Now sounds like nothing else ever recorded by anyone.
I would definitely agree that Plague is for me also the one track that I have any slight misgivings about, but at the same time I can forgive the clumsiness of some lyrics and the not so clean transitions from chaos to beauty in places.
As you say so rightly - it sounds like nothing else ever recorded. Also true of the whole album.
How amazing it all is can be judged by the fact that 52 years later we are still in awe of the whole masterpiece.
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WOW! I have heard this song so many times and it never ceases to amaze me. You have a gift of understanding music that takes many people several listens at least. Peter Hammill's solo work is still out there waiting. Keep up the good work Justin!
I was waiting for you. Man-erg always seems to be the best introductory VdGG song. But there's so much more isn't there?
@@vdggmouse9512 I didn't expect this so soon. Hopefully he will get some of Peter Hammill's solo work out there too. Oh yes, so much more!
Masterpiece indeed and closing in on the lighthouse keepers Awesome channel we are the lighthouse keepers
I hear this in 71 when I was in grade 8 ordered it the next day form the" Record Shop" and it still ends up on my turntable today. Such a great example of Art not being recognized at it's time of conception.
If you want to stay in the same vibe on the path of VDGG, i suggest : Undercover Man !
As you can probably tell, Peters lyrics tend to be not just philosophical but psychological too. I feel like those whole song is based on the voices in all of our heads. Whether they’re sweet or harsh. They’re voices that come up and confuse our sense of identity
Peter Hammill speaks to the human condition like few vocalists do. Combine that with his theatrical vocal delivery, and he's one of a kind.
BTW, I *think* Fripp only played on "Lighthouse Keepers." Banton and Jaxon filled an incredible amount of sonic space all on their own...
Fripp played prominently on all three songs.
Thanks for choosing such masterpieces from all of the masters of prog. Really love what you do to introduce bands like VDGG, Gentle Giant, ELP, Genesis, Yes and others to a wider audience as they unfortunately remain largely unnoticed. Great channel, Justin!
Happy to Nevan! The music is fantastic
Man, i always skip van der graf generator for some obscure reasons. Maybe the Genesis, yes, gentle giant trinity left me to much satisfied in my rock prog appreciation and i left this band on the side road. Today you literaly open my eyes ( ears) to this wonderful band. Thank you for this Jp! This musical adventure is starting to give some serious loots 😂 Please continue! 😃
On a side note: Im really looking foward for your reaction(s) on the lamb lies down on broadway. It is on my opinion the stellar performance of Peter Gabriel singing. Truly amazing. The emotional and darker tone of the album convey so much feelings.
Glad you enjoyed this one phillipe!!
philippe philippe I so agree, it’s an amazing album, Peter is totally awesome. But I dearly love his Genesis stuff.
An existential tour de force from Peter, who isn't just talking about himself, he's talking about us all.
Your lyric source seems to have a typo: the line in the final verse should read "And killers, angels all are these". That way it rhymes with 'refugees' - and makes sense.
Ah got it, ty Rich!
VDGG rules! Thanks for unearthing this criminally overlooked band!
Very happy to!
This is my second fave VDGG track. Only Refugees beats it in my book. Absolute top tier stuff, not just in Prog but ‘Music’ in general. ❤️
Peter Hammill has been my favorite singer/songwriter since I was about 16 (in 1979).
Few writers push themselves so deep, few singers stretch themselves so far.
So nice to see younger people enjoying this underappreciated band of geniuses.
Absolutely! He's on a different plane
I saw him aged 16 in ‘77, the first artist I ever saw live, and agree entirely with you!
Loved your analysis of this. Can't wait to see your reaction to Lighthouse Keepers!
Ty Kotf!
You’re right perfect song! I feel the same way about this entire album.
Oh that voice. Veering from power to softness as only Hammill can.
One of my favorite VdGG songs! I'm glad people are still discovering it! A few years ago, I went back to college and took a Public Speaking class... for one of the assignments, I spoke the opening & closing lyrics of this song.
As a VDGG fan for over 40 years, this is one their best. A cerebral masterpiece of musical power and emotional intensity. Simply stunning!!!
Agreed Craig!
You have to listen to Peter's solo album Over, which is the best album ever written about separation.
That album is intense! Have to be in the right frame of mind to experience the raw emotion.
@@blackcatcentralmusic It was my relationship-bible in the late 70's.
One of my favorite songs from VDG too, even if Scorched earth comes before. Very interesting analyse again. I just think Peter Hammill talked not of “him” or of one specific person, but he speaks for every human person, because we all have all these sides inside of us. We all struggle to live with our angels and killers. And that's, for me, what makes this song so powerful. And Peter's lyrics, as you said, are also for me some of the most interestings (I even bought his two books which also contain some sci-fi novels), and he often talks about all humankind and what we all are (listen to Childlike Faith in Childhood's end).
Very true!
Such an amazing song
Another great review. Really enjoy your in depth analysis.
Thanks so much Jeffrey!
I've Seen Peter Hammil perform many times. But one of the most impressive moments was his encore in Paradiso. Sitting on the edge of the stage left corner.
No microphone, the whole of Paradiso fell silent and his a cappella song was heard in the entire hall.
Great reaction! Very nice analysis, helps me to get into VdGG.
Ty!
VDGG! The heaviest in prog. So amazing! Keep the VDGG going!!
This song was my first introduction to VdGG. And the only one I liked from Pawn Hearts at that time. The other 2 needed more time.
Lighthouse Keepers has parts that match Man-Erg but I wouldn't say it's better.
Saw them live in Dresden, Germany in 2013. When Peter announced the tour on his website, he wrote that they planned to play Lighthouse Keepers or Flight (a solo song from Hammill) at every concert. Luckily they played both in Dresden and at the end of Lighthouse Keepers I thought "this is so great and if they play Man-Erg too, this evening is perfect". And then they played it as the final song and it was perfect.
Fripp doesn't solo on this one, but he is playing in the "astral jazz" section.
I just discovered you’re channel man. Awesome and I just discovered this song it’s a gem. Peter Hamill is so good. I’m a prog freak and one of my friend said to me that Van Der is not for everybody well I just fell in love with that song. I like your song choice’s. Good work buddy.
This album is incredible This song is Incredible but A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers is even Incredible! Been waiting for u to do Man-erg since the very beginning.
Having listened to this whole album regularly since it was first released, there were points during the track where I was watching for your reaction.
You did not disappoint.
And your summing up was most satisfying, I think you will find 'A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers' far more challenging.
With 'H to He' and 'Pawn Hearts' listened to you really need to hear the one that came before, VDGG's first album (I'm not counting 'Aerosol Grey Machine' which, although interesting, was more of a Peter Hammill album named VDGG for contractual reasons).
Please, give 'The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other' a listen, start with 'Refugees' (or any other track of your choice, you'll want to hear them all).
I can relate to some of your comments. When I saw the title, I thought, “Cool, first listen for me too.” As the song played, I realized I’d heard it on a TH-cam prog rock mix. At the time I wasn’t impressed but I trust you and decided to give it another listen. You’re right, it does take a couple tries to click. Perhaps also not listening to it within a prog mix helps. I enjoyed the song this time and your review and will watch for “Plague.” Thanks for your unique approach to these reviews and for the variety of artists you cover. Cheers.
JP you really touched the deep meaning and impact of VDGG on one's mind and body. He's in my opinion as genuine and moving as some great composers of classical music are, like Bach, Mozart, etc.
In my quite global knowledge of different musics of the XXth century put out under the general label of popular music, excluding classical music, I would say it's quite unique.
Pawn hearts represents the quintessence of so many wonderful things . Amazing ! Really amazing !
This is my favorite musical work of art ever(the whole album, especially A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers), so glad you enjoyed and great review! Cannot wait to get my original pressing in the mail tomorrow!
Nice!
Unless I'm misremembering, in the late 60's, early 70's there were 3 locally popular bands touring England and the rest of Europe with each band rotating as the headliner. Those 3 bands were Van Der Graaf Generator, Lindesfarne & Genesis. I would give anything to have seen one of those shows live!
That sounds right as they were all on the Charisma record label.
Robert. Have you had the chance to see The Musical Box perform? The first time I saw them perform the Selling England by the Pound show. I went home believing I had seen Genesis in 1973. I see them everytime the come around now.
@@bradhernandez5823 I've seen the Musical Box play out about 8 times, and no tour more than twice including standing 5 feet in front of the keyboard player at the Stardust Ballroom in NJ. Also have seen them several times at the Nokia Theater across from Bubba Gumps in NYC.
I was at one of those gigs in Birmingham UK ..Town Hall(?) 1971 if I remember correctly.
It was called the ‘6 Bob Tour’ (tickets cost 6 shillings...30 pence in decimal currency). All 3 bands on the same Famous Charisma label.
Hi JP Love your reactions!
Try out their "When she comes" My favorite!!
It's a series of ever stronger contradictions/juxtapositions and resolutions. First the hymn music of the opening (church organ, descending bass line) is undercut by the words about the killer within. This is resolved by the verse about the angels, which better accords with the spirit of the hymn. The whole first section is then overthrown by the killer's music, leading to the tension and dark mood of the middle section. The last verses are an attempt at a grand synthesis, where the contradictory elements are acknowledged and accepted (killers, angels, all of these), but only in the text. When the conflicting musical themes, the killer's and the hymn, are put together just before the end, the killer's theme has the final word. In the end the synthesis is undone and darkness prevails.
I love the way you recognise the depth of thought and emotion in Hammill's lyrics, but for me I also love the way he evokes such wonderful images to go with these thoughts and emotions. Two of my favourites are:
From Man-erg - "And solemn, waiting Old Man in the gables of the roof, he tells me truth"
From A Louse Is Not a Home - "There is a lofty, lonely, Lohengrenic castle in the clouds I draw my murky meanings there"
Can't wait for your reaction to Lighthouse Keepers and you peeing yourself.
I know I've said this before, after Lighthouse Keepers you should listen to "A Louse is not a Home" on Peter's solo album The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage. The Wiki about it says Louse "was originally written for Van der Graaf Generator's album following Pawn Hearts, an album that because of the band's split never came to be."
For me Man-erg, Lighthouse Keepers, Louse and Forsaken Gardens feel like linked songs examining Peter's mind, and the minds of others (of course he does that in many other songs too, but these four feel linked to me because they are on two albums that came out at about the same time).
Man-erg covers how good and evil can exist together in the same mind, Lighthouse Keepers the loneliness we feel when we keep our thoughts (light) silent and within ourselves, Louse a nihilst losing of belief in anything or anyone else, and finally Forsaken Gardens the exact opposite - why we should share our ideas and beliefs with each other.
In the Republic of Hamillia, Theme One is the National anthem, and In the church of Hammill Man Erg is listened to each Sunday.
Excellent Jason, you’re getting into all my fav bands. Good to see a young guy find appreciation for all these fantastic bands from late 60’s and early 70’s. Keep digging into those archives!
Ty George! I'm having a great time with it
You don't often hear people singing "Aqualung" out loud to themselves... 🤨
Also, thanks for inspiring me to finally take the plunge on this band after waffling on them for many years (as well as Atomic Rooster and Wishbone Ash -- I probably will on Camel, too). 👍 Now bring on the "Plague"!
Today, I caught myself singing the "Now I know" portion of Queen's "Prophet Song" and I wondered... "Who actually starts doing that?"
Haha, can't help it! The lyrics are questionable, but its undeniably catchy 😅
VdGG - Darkness 11/11 is still out there waiting for you...
...and "And Whatever Would Robert Have said"?
I can tell you really like VDGG...Over 40 years of love for this album and others...As each part arrives; I can only smile know what you're in store for...Hammill was so far ahead of his time and Guy Evans is another drummer whose efforts are not appreciated... Not sure if you've done Plague of Lighthouse Keepers yet or Childlike Faith in childhood's end...VdGG is a lifetime pursuit.
Haven't done those 2 yet, but ive heard nothing but good things!
@@JustJP :)..Must be tough to keep up with it all...Hopefully some people, that have never listened get tuned in to VDGG...THE greatest prog band in the Genre...
One of the top ten of progressive songs ever.
It's easy to think of Lighthouse as VdGG's "big epic", but to me this is really their Magnum Opus. If they had done nothing else than this song their reputation would still be secure.
Well, well, well...
I watched this all the way through after it was posted in a Hammill group I'm a member of.
At first, I commented that I'd love to sit down with you and share my knowledge and the history involved, band members, colabs (Fripp!!) and so on. Then you blew my away by summarising most of what I'd have loved to have shared with you. Looks like you don't need no teaching. Very good summary. Concise. Accurate. Honest. I spot a mutual fan.
And I first heard it when I travelled into town just to buy it on the first day when I was about your age.
I'm now looking forward to your other appraisals.
Well done, matey!
Thank you so much Stu! Appreciate you coming over from FB!
I've never clicked on one of your notifications so fast.
I knew you'd get it. This song changed my life as a teenager: "I know I'm not a hero, Well I hope that I'm not damned."
Ty for enjoying!
Probably the best track on the album. "Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" is great, but I ding it because it has some parts that are just exercises in atmosphere, not fully integrated into a musical whole.
If you love "Man-Erg", by the way (and who doesn't!) I highly recommend "A Louse Is Not a Home", written for the potential follow-up to Pawn Hearts that was never made due to the band's break-up. It was eventually recorded (with the full band) for Hammill's 1974 solo album The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage, and it very much deserves to be considered part of the VDGG canon.
Ty Sylvan, ive heard many good things about Louse😄
We all stand on the shoulders of those who came before us. When I listened I felt that VDGG and Procul Harum spent some time on the same shoulders at least part of the time. I had never heard of VDGG before and I enjoyed it. Thanks for covering it.
Your mention of Genesis in this reminded me of Tony Bank's Curious Feeling lp. Obscure but worth the listen.
The other subs know VDGG much better than me. This is all first time hearing for me, every time you do one of their songs. I liked what I liked in the 60’s and 70’s and VDGG was not on my radar. I’m glad I get to listen to them now with you. I missed some great music. Looking forward to the next reaction. ☄️👌🔥😄.
Awesome, I'm glad youre enjoying them along with me!
Love the climax, when all the human nature shades mentioned, try to come out mixed one by one illustrated by the music... Absolute musicianship. One of the most important rock music gems ever... Funny, with uncommon arrangement, no guitars, no solos... Unique.
OK, this is easily the best song I've heard by VGG. It's got some great melody's, keyboard's are superb. Vocals are very moving imo.
The bass, guitar and drums are sublime. This to me, as got focus.. Direction..purpose. 😊
Usually, I get distracted, lose interest on other songs you've covered Justin. Sorry, that's my opinion.
This captures you, leads u, and music is so good.. It keeps you in it. ♥️
Superb stuff.. Absolutely awesome track butty.
Great in depth review once again butty. 😊
Wow!! ♥️
Happy to hear you liked this one Neil! Hope youre having a great weekend
@@JustJP you too butty, all the best to you and Natascha.. Hope I spelt it right👍😊
Speaking of VDGG - I recently bought an album with a track featuring VDGG keyboardist Hugh Banton. This is an LP I bought back in the 70s by the group Seventh Wave, and entitled Psi-Fi.
It's progressive rock and soul - really good stuff! My favorite track on Psi-Fi doesn't have Hugh Banton on it, but it's great nonetheless. It's called "Camera Obscura", and I got a HQ link to it:
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Such an awesome song that kind of resonated with me when I first heard the lyrics. Just gave me this intense feeling hearing this song for the first time. This was the first song that I had ever heard from VDGG on a compilation of prog rock songs. I don't even remember how I found out it was VDGG because all I remember is searching for a song with piano in the beginning played a certain way for days. I can't even find the compilation I found it on anymore. Plague Of Lighthouse Keeper is an amazing song that is next.
Still waiting on Pantagruel's Nativity by Gentle giant though ;)
Just kidding. Love all of the songs you are doing. I just comment on the songs that really hit me hard such as this one when I first heard them.
Edit: Yes, in my opinion, Plague of Lighthouse Keeper is better.
Haha ty Peter! Pantagruel will be on the way
Great review! I love this song so much.
I rarely comment, but I've been watching you for a while and man, your reflections and analysis of songs are so well thought out and expressed! What you said about VDGG being the most rewarding band once it clicks with you is very true for me. When I got into progressive rock they were the odd ones that made me go "huh, do I like this or not?" because I found their songs difficult to digest, but after some time I started to grasp that their music demand a certain kind of attention compared to the other essential prog bands, and once you get over that challenge, they're definitely a special treat.
4:48 is also some serious proto-extreme metal if you ask me, that riff with its decreasing tempo just fucking slays
Language pls.
Thank you so much Matt! Thats one aspect I love about VdGG; if you keep listening, you'll be rewarded
This is ART.
MASTERPIECE!!!
Youre not wrong!
So far, I have not heard anything better, to me, than Peter’s contributions to Fripp’s Exposure. That’s my opinion, pls, do not tell me to listen to this or that. Those songs are ingrained in me, it’s too late. You have your songs I have mine.
Man-Erg: There are parts I liked a lot , it’s probably my favorite VDGG song so far.
But... evil will not win. It just feels that way, bad is easy, good is hard. It is worth the struggle. Fight on.
Take care everyone, it is worth the struggle, mask up pls,
Peace and Exposure Music
Struggle we must for the betterment of one another!😃
My favourite VDGG song
If you need a definitive source for VDGG and PH lyrics the best place to go is Peter's website: www.sofasound.com/lyrix.htm
And check out his blog at sofasound.wordpress.com
Literally my vote for the greatest song of all time. (USA)
Wow!
He's taking about ID, EGO and SUPEREGO.
The killer is the impulse of his feelings. It's the Id. Go on and do It!
The angel is the rein. It's the Superego. Wait before do It!
...and then he sings "I too live inside me." This is himself, the EGO. The sintesis of his choices.
Just what the doctor ordered, that was good wasn't it? Insightful review JP, I enjoyed that.
Incredibly good! Ty Mark
Hey, wait a minute...I actually enjoyed that!!
Lol! I'm glad😄
you should do In memory of Elizabeth Reed(live at fillmore east) by The Allman brothers band. it's one of the best blues songs i've ever heard(if not the best) i'm sure you'll love it.
Not a bad review at all, nice to see someone appreciating the genre.
My favourite band since I was a youngster, probably my favourite song too. A giant of a group striding the halls of prog... and of course they're still going, still playing live. Met Peter at the Metropolis London gig, my life is complete. 😎
Thanks Cat! Really enjoy VdGG :) I'm sure it was amazing to meet PH!
I have never got into VDGG but this did sound good. I must listen to more as it is like a first time listen for me too, even though I grew up with the most popular prog groups in the 70's. Anyhoo I'm not sure if you have heard of Porcupine Tree? A good start would be The Sky Moves Sideways. I do love your reviews and would love to see your reaction/review of Steven Wilson's projects.
Ty Martin, ive heard FoaBP from PT, and a few other songs here and there
Not an easy listen.. but after 53 years of listening, not many better. If you want easy listening, listen to Kylie, or Gaga
vdgg is doing a uk tour in 2021 for the first time in like 7 years and im fucking so excited to see them ngl.
I'd love to see them if they come over!
FINALY!
Although this is the second track on the album, this holds the key to enter and understand pH (pawn hearts. Or Peter hammill, if you want). Pay attention, in this particular, to the recurrence of number 3.
And I say no more. Until you ask me to explain.
It took me two years to get the lyrics (the whole story) of this album. Two years.
VDGG make me want to cry so much emotion. A sort of Dark prog Goth band.
GET THIS MAN TO 10K SUBS ALREADY!
Hopefully soon!
The sleeping killer reminds me of the lyric in Peter Gabriel's "Darkness" from the UP album. (hint) 😏
The "chaotic part" of this influenced a Tim Smith song, but I can't pinpoint which one (and searches like that tend to end up lost somewhere where there are some nice daisies to smell).
And it's one of those days where things just pop up. Like *Sun Ra* . I guess with a dad who loved jazz, you've probably heard of him, but maybe he was too weird. (At least for the stage show, he believed he came from Saturn - and returned there when he "died" - and was involved in building the pyramids. There's that side, and then there's also the side of him that would rescue musicians from the street, get them to believe in themselves, and see them later succeed in their own projects.)
Anyway, if you're up for something toward the hypnotic side of things, you might enjoy *The Twin Stars of Thence* - played by his Arkestra, as he called it, th-cam.com/video/w_KLSKSX2PM/w-d-xo.html
Robert Fripp is here playing the rotten guitars on the heaviest parts. Love it. This song is so good that Rammstein copies the main theme to do Seemann.
A beautiful essay on sub-personalities with musical perfection for accompaniment
Oh man. What a great Brucknerian finale!
Yeah, go on, add it to the playlist, JP! Thanks for the review!
Ty Mark! I love this one
Hey JP - I am new to your channel and loving every minute. I'd bet I'm not the first one to suggest it, but try Peter Hammill's album A Black Box. If you don't have the time to put it on here just listen to it for yourself, just the sheer pleasure of it.. All killer but I'd stake my life on Fogwalking.
Appreciate it Comrade! I'm working towards doing some of Peter's solo material
Best version of this song is in Concert Rockpalast 2005 after their Reunion
If you want a laugh look up Lindisfarne and Peter Gabriel's take on the shared bus all 3 bands travelled in during Charisma's early years. Genesis up the front sipping wines Lindisfarne beer drinking and VdGG getting into all sorts of chemicals!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 two singers inspired Peter Gabriel, Peter Hammill and Roger Chapman of Family!!!
I love Van der Graaf
You need hear to Peter Hammill solo albums; Hammill is the Van der Graaf singer
Спасибо тебе,дружище за эту песню) Привет из маленького городка России)