I bought the old version a few weeks ago and seen they had an updated version. I was a little disappointed I didn't do a little more research like I usually do but they sent me the updated version. I love this controller
The same thing happened to me, actually! I looked at something randomly and was disappointed that I ordered the "older" version when a new one came in so quickly, but then I looked and saw mine was the updated.
Razer Kishi's advantage is the analog triggers. The Gamesir's advantage is the overall better, more straightforward design when trying to place a phone in the holder, along with the bigger shoulder buttons. That third USB-C controller with the pastel buttons has a built in headphone jack. Can't somebody just make a controller that combines the best qualities of all 3?
You forget the gamesirs button mapping software it's a amazing feature that I wish my kishi had. But I don't really play enough native android games to care that much I guess I use it more for emulation.
@@TylerMBuller12 I think i'll get the X2. Kishi probably would have even better buttons but i dont mind, plus having analoge triggers isnt a priority for me even when i play racing games i am used to driving with keyboard so so i dont mind having no analogue triggers
@@nonnygb There's always going to be a bit more latency when using bluetooth compared to using a usb connection, but I can never tell since I always use bluetooth controllers and play retro games. I also use it for ps5 remote play and notice no lag, so you'll probably be fine if you go for the bluetooth one.
The USB-C connector should be on the right half. This would allow the power button and the volume rocker of the phone to be on the upper edge. Edited: This was what I thought. Having bought one and tried out I realized the volume rocker and the power button are to be controlled with your right thumb and this is indeed better.
Not all phones have it so. Mine has volume rocker on the left so it would be on the upper side when inserted. I would preffer oppossing side mostly because i am used to having the speaker on right right side when i play
like many people already mentioned, not all phones will work exaclt like that. one thing to note is that this X2 model works best with the Galaxy fold series of phones, because when you expand the screen it actually will expand to the top instead of the bottom
What timing! I literally JUST got one of these in the mail today. The only downside I can find on it is the issue with the case. BUT it's one of the few controllers that fit my s9 plus.
I was one of those idiots having trouble setting up the overlay. In the end I just was not looking close enough. This product is awesome! Thanks ETA Prime!
The Gamesir x2 with a decent phone is one of the best handheld emulator 'consoles' around. One issue I have with the controller is that it does drain the battery even when you don't use it over a day or so - so you either switch off the phone or keep it on trickle charge.
Wait, the Gamesir x2 uses battery while off or it uses up the phone's battery? Are you not taking it off while you're done playing and you just lug around your giant phone with you everywhere? 🤔
Love my Gamesir X2 USB-C! Fits great on my Sony Xperia 1 iii, even with a case! (Granted, my case is a slim type one, à la Pitaka, but not quite) Didn't know about their app, though... Great video to show me that I could probably use it with PS Remote Play (which only support PS4/5 controller via Bluetooth, or only bluetooth controllers...)
I have the last controller you showed and yes, it doesn't have L3/R3, but it has 4 option buttons that you can map to L3/R3, and also is really cheap, not the best, but is cool to have no input lag at all
I bought this one too, but I notice that it has a huge battery drain more than any other bluethooth models (other people from reddit noticed it too), so I bought a x2 after that.
I also have that controller and I must add that the sticks are super responsive and seem to be the same that the vita has (hence no button), has a built-in audio jack and the app of the controller lets you simulate touchscreen presses without having to activate the app like mantis and the stick sensibility options are great. really worth it, L3/R3 aren't even used that much, so isn't a great loss.
I bought one of these about 6 weeks ago, the idea being to make my phone (Galaxy s20fe) as a mobile emulator. Wow! It's a cracking controller. It just works and great build quality.
Hi mate! I'm doing the same with that very phone! If you read this by any chance, can you tell me what you do about sound? I use USB C headphones on this phone, but I'm given to understand there's no pass through for things like that. Cheers mate.
@@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2 Mine broke. Didn't even last much longer than 12 months. I don't recommend this anymore. The 'Kishi is a much better device. I've only ever used Bluetooth for audio though.
I own this controller and I have for 2 months now. Things I have to say is after a while this controller can be uncomfortable especially on the right hand side. I think if they added some controller bulge to hold more in the palm like the bottom sections of controllers that stick out. I've had great luck with emulation on my phone and I really like the clicky-ness of the buttons except the sound for night time use but its not a real issue unless you are trying to hide that you are playing. I don't play fighting games so I do not get the issue people have the d button layout but I would have no issue if i had gotten that one instead. I have a note 9 and a spigen case and I have no issue keeping the case on while playing. I think the issue only comes with thick cases or for phones that are super big like the s21.
Hi there! I also have a note 8 with a Spivey phone. Would I be able to play GBA games through PS2 just fine? How is the input latency/lag with this controller?
@@JNguyen07Max there is no lag on the controller. Idk what a that other phone is. Also I have not done any testing on anything on anything other than gba, NGC, Wii and Gameboy. I would watch a separate video on your phone capabilities. The controller will not be a limitation on your ability to play.
I put off buying a phone controller for almost a year because all of the best ones had some kind of compromise, but now with this new x2, it's got type c connectivity, a read d-pad and the screen mapping app. I think its finally time to buy a controller.
@@McPatMan124 bluetooth headphones work, but for games like pubg that rely heavily on sound, the delay can be a game changer. We all know, just like the bluetooth counterpart for the gamepad has a button input delay, bluetooth headphones have an audio delay as well. If they can adjust a 3.5mm jack in the pad, it will be a game changer. The headphones with minimal audio delay cost hundreds of dollars. And there still is a delay. I was just watching reviews, and nobody seems to have mentioned this. Why not use the usb c port to it's full potential?
This looks perfect for my Galaxy S10plus. I have just begun playing older game systems such as Saturn, Dreamcast, N64 and Gamecube via emulators on my phone but also play Pubg and Cod Mobile, so this will be a handy controller for all of these games. Just ordered it, great review!
Just a note, the Bluetooth version of this supports iPhones as well. It's not MFi certified but it disguises itself as an Xbox controller so the iPhone will pair with it. I bought one last week and it's a great alternative to the Razer Kishi or the Backbone.
This is a really good controler but for thoes interested please keep in mind that the Power Pass-through Charging DOES NOT work with all Android Phones! I've had this and used it with my Samsung S20 FE and didn't get the Pass-through Charging. But strange enough my older Samsung A70 DID... This is the only fault I've found with this controler...
Great review and great controller, I absolutely love mine! Works perfect with most emulators, but I struggle to get this set up as a Wiimote Plus on Dolphin. Could you please do a short video showing how to play Skyward Sword on Dolphin using this controller? Thanks a lot!
Does anyone know how this actually performs? How are analog deadzones? Button and dpad clickiness? Any grinding? Basic things you'd think would be talked about in any gamepad review.
As for the GameSir Key mapper, can your account in Genshin Impact be banned due to it? Mihoyo has a nasty history of banning players using 3rd-party key mappers in the past, especially with Honkai Impact 3rd before...
The controller is not bad! Loses Bluetooth connectivity to my phone which is literally inside it once or twice but that seemed to be just the terrible interference I get in my building. Most of the time it's great. Octopus is horrible. It's a wrapper that you have to re log into your gplay account in. You're right Genshin doesn't work. They seem to be detecting for bots and are finding the container as a bot. I doubt it will ever work again and I regret paying for the Octopus upgrade. For retro gaming it's great, though. Just wish Android joystick support were universal.
Fun fact. If you update the firmware from the android app, they have an option to swap the abxy layout from switch to Xbox, so the A button is on the bottom. Way better.
That was the first thing I've made after the last firmware update. I know that the design and layout was switch like but it just sucks and noone uses that 😂
I'd go with bluetooth. YES I understand lag. BUT I'm not playing anything but retro (mostly) platformers. The issue I have is 1) damage to the connector and or port. 2) if my phone is too thick or thin it will also put stress on both points of contact.
I haven't watched the video yet, so he may have said this already, but the type C plug on this does swivel up and down. With that said, if your phone is too thick it's just not going to work. My daughters Pixel 4A phone with case and popsocket won't fit even with the popsocket removed (but the connector for it still on). I would still be careful plugging and unplugging the phone from it though. I use it with my Galaxy S9 and it seems to fit fine, but that's a decently thin phone.
@@freezingCode I'm using a 4a with it, actually, and that official felt case or whatever it's called. It fits in, but I have to push a bit on the top to get it to sync in. Works fine after that.
@@ThunderDragonRandy There's not that noticeable of a lag. I've played sonic, mario and whatnot on my phones with crapier 2.1 tech than 4.0 or 5.0 BT. It's easier to forgive lag than a damaged USB C port.
Is tempted to get this controller... but really irked a bit that Genshin and Mihoyo's other game Honkai Impact doesn't support "Native"/"Official" Controller Support on Android. And is hoping that they add it in the near future. Would get this in the future... when I have a Better "Gaming" Phone
It's funny that as of 2023, both Genshin and HK3rd still dont support gamepad on Android, but their newest game Star Rail does. It seems like implement controller support for older games aint their priority.
@@GabrielLimau I only notice any audio lag when I use a Bluetooth controller at the same time as a Bluetooth headphone. Other than that, there's no noticeable lag for me, and even if there was, it is hardly as concerning as input lag.
@@sem6045 to be fair, Qiqi is an immortal zombie who has livedfor hundreds of years, and Diona is a Cat Girl, so biologically speaking she should be old already (in terms of cat years, that is).
This review seals the deal for me - I have an old Huawei P10 that's got plenty of juice to play some of the more demanding games (upto PSP) and wanted to buy a controller to use it as an emulation console.
I hope they release a version with a full Type C passthrough like the Backbone for the iphone. I want to use my DAC/AMP combos over using bluetooth for audio.
@@onion_____ The Bluetooth Saitake controller is more comfortable but we don't have a type C version and if we did I doubt it will have a full passthrough. Backbone may make one.
The razer kishi also shows up on Amazon renewed semi-regularly. Mine had the original box and everything, it looked like it was opened and then returned. For $50 not bad
If you use a bigger phone, I think the choice between the Kishi and the Gamesir does come down to personal preference, but for smaller models like the Pixel 4a, the Kishi isn't stable enough to be comfortable to use.
Why does the USB-C port have to be on the left side? I've seen a lot of landscape things default to an orientation 180 degrees to what's shown, and I always want my volume and power buttons on the top.
not only that, but the speakers are reversed, so you are forced to use headphones, but you can't even use headphones because it doesn't have an audio port and your phone audio port (if your phone even has one) is blocked, bluetooth has delay so isn't a good option.
It's worth mentioning that the button layout is the same as Nintendo controllers, which are inverse to the Xbox layout. While a lot of games have options to remap button, a lot don't. In most emulators you'll have to remap the keys for sure.
I've had this for the past three months. Hate the placement of the screenshot button. Lots of accidental presses of it. Also needs foregrips for your palms for better comfort. Other than that, emulations have worked quite well. Way better than touchscreen alone.
It definitely took some time for me to adjust to holding it in a way that didn't become uncomfortable after 5 minutes. It still become uncomfortable after 20-30 minutes for me. I bought it because it was sleek, but definitely compromised comfort in the process. I have the same gripes with the Switch when it's not docked.
1:18 There's also the fact that the Bluetooth version uses the traditional Xbox button layout while the updated version here still annoyingly uses the Nintendo button layout. Edit: Apparently, you can update the firmware of the updated version so that it uses the Xbox layout though I'm not sure of this.
Couple of suggestions: 1. Recessed analog sticks 2. A variety of sizes to match better with smaller phones (specifically used for retro gaming) 3. A couple of retro designs to choose from (NES, SNES,PSX style, etc)
So, Actually, for smaller phones, this thing is way better than something like the Razer Kishi. Using my Pixel 4a on the two of them, the Kishi isn't stable at all, while the GameSir X2 basically feels exactly the same as it does with bigger phones, but lighter due to the difference in phone weight. I don't agree with the recessed sticks (Would be more portable, sure, but those just aren't as good to use), but I do agree with the additional designs. Pure white isn't my favorite color in the world, and while I don't know if I would care about retro designs, I would like black or something.
I loved my razr kishi for the first 6 months. After that the left side of the controller stopped responding. After looking into the issues it seems to be common due to the build. So I will be grapping this controller next.
Got this at 50% off from a free market. Gotta this controller is really good (despite the yuzu code part). It fits better for a thinner phone. My Aquos zero 2 fits perfectly. They keys are super responsive and nice. Not a fan of the switch-like colour of the joycon joint tho. I still think it is a bit pricey but it is a really nice controller. The key mapping feature is the main reason that I am buying it ❤️
I watched just and caught the clip, it's a bit Hefty overall but will take time to get used to but what I found out is you don't even need Bluetooth Xbox series s is what I'm using controller USB C to USB C it recognizes the controller natively no lag. I'm using a Poco X3 Pro, if you're worried about the cable length you can just get a tiny cable that just links from the controller to the phone works beautifully not sure about other phones but Pro X3 Pro don't even need Bluetooth!
OI I would not recommend the razer kishi myself. While it worked, it worked wellish. But at some point the left analog trigger started jamming and becoming unusable. After taking the controller apart and studying the design of it, and trying to fix it. It was unfixable, Also this was only having it for maybe a month. It was like... 80 or 100 CAD so it was very much a ripoff. Pls no buy
In regards to it not plugging in with a case on your phone. If you always use a case on your phone just take a box cutter to the rubber right beside the USB C port on the controller. After doing that my S21 fit with a fairly large case. I wouldn't expect a phone in a larger otterbox to fit but a phone in any silicon case won't have an issue.
What about a headphone Jack? Old those vendors should include a 3.5 mm. If you are on the go you don’t want to bother the people around you. Don’t say Wireless because audio input latency is an issue. At least in games like Bust a Groove for PS1.
I got the gamesir x2 Bluetooth version and I love it!! Works great with iPhone and android and I played lots a fighting games and surprisingly I have ZERO LAG. Love the Bluetooth version very much. Best Buy ever for me.
I wonder if you could make a review on another mini pc called CHUWI Herobox and test some emulation. It’s pretty similar to the CHUWI Larkbox but there is some small changes with it. Big fan keep up the good work and great video👍🏻👍🏻
So many people seem to be confused by the legality of emulators AND the game files used by them. If you physically or digitally own a game, it is legal to play any game you bought, on any legally owned device or program for personal use. Simple. there is absolutely nothing more or less to that rule. As a consumer, the ONLY concern I should have, is whether or not I own the game (again, physically or digitally), and if the file is clean from malicious code (simply for my own safety). Meaning, as long as I own an official copy of the game in any shape or form, I am allowed by law, to download those files from anyplace I desire, even if they are riddled with viruses, whether or not the person I download from is allowed to give it to me or not. That's their problem, not mine.
Even if I am not 100 percent accurate by every single relatable law description. I will in no way be subject to any sort of consequence that means anything. If any effort goes out to punish someone, I am telling you right now, as a consumer with rights to own/download/use files I have licenses for, I will not be the one anyone goes after.
I didn't even know I had the updated version but it does have the real d pad so nice ! It's a really great controller to have I have it set up with an old google pixel xl and just use it mainly for minecraft bedrock edition although I might check out some emulation as well
Slightly concerned it doesn't have a lip at the bottom to prevent phones from slipping out, however the rubber seems grippy enough. I'd probably go for the BT version to avoid wear on my usb c port, but also cause I like playing ds games in portrait orientation.
Hey eta prime... Just got my hands on a optiplex 7070 ultra... Was thinking it would make a great machine for an arcade box. Anywho its an older model at this point but something ive never seen you do. Didnt know if you were aware of the model of pc. Would make for a cool arcade cabinet machine. Keep up the good work.
What I'm waiting on is a USB C controller that is case friendly AND works with larger phones like the S21 Ultra. Is that a thing, yet? I see the S21, but I usually have a bigger phone.
Mine just died and I barely use the thing. From what ive been able to find out, The usb c port ribbon on the inside breaks due to you putting your phone in the controller.
Hey ETA Prime, when you do finally get around to reviewing the pine phone, I would really like to see you test out some emulation on it and also see if these sort of USB-C controllers are compatible with it as it runs Linux instead of Android. Thanks in advance!
It's crazy how the reviewers really don't like to say that besides the spare USB-C port EARPHONE IS NOT AN OPTION in this GameSir, so I brought another with earphone support.
There apparently is one pokemon game with huge file size that my brother literally could not play for his life. He immediately uninstalled the application after realizing it was not playable by just the touch screen; at least with his gaming capabilities. It was available to download at least when he found it; it might be taken down from the store, however I feel that might not be the case because the name of the application is so obscure.
Hello folks, does anyone have a recommendation for a button mapper overlay for someone who is using an Xbox controller, if like to use it with genshin impact but I haven't been able to find a good one
One thing I'd like to add - I had to install the Gamesir app in order to change the controller from "Switch" mode to "Xbox" mode. The buttons were swapped and it was driving me crazy.
I never hear anyone complain about the right stick on these switch style controllers. It's probably just me but I think the non-offset right stick is horrible. While using the action buttons it either gets in the way or I get hand cramp from the way you need to hold this to not move the stick. IMHO the Wii-U style is way better.
@@bland9876 Agreed unless it's like a Kindle you're better off using a clip or stand and then a regular controller like what ETA prime displayed at the end of the video.
I made a video about this actually. It simulates touch inputs, therefore yes you will be playing in touch lobbies. Finally the suffering of controller players can come to an end. if u a die hard controller player like we r the aspect of not only being able to get lobbies but sweaty lobbies, not being limited to controller sensitivity that does not go high enough, obviously can't forget the damn near 2 full seconds it takes to go prone on reg controller, you will actually be able to separate ur slide and prone buttons for them quick drop shots, and let's be honest codm doesn't provide the best controller hud. Being able to choose which buttons to assign is huge w. Making L3 slide is great cuz to hit slide cancel all ya gotta do is click+turn on single analog combined with quick ads tap then R1 much better for weapon switch, if u got the paddles on the back like i do (and before u even ask u cannot use my controller the kunai 3 unless u have an Asus ROG phone) those r great too i put left one as jump right one prone this set up is deadly simply cuz u can perform all of your movement needs without ever taking your thumbs off the analogs. There's def a way u can achieve this effect without the paddles might have to get creative and assign some buttons to a button combo which gamesir let's u do. That is HUGE ADVANTAGE over regular controller and just the fact that it's connected to the phone gives u possibility to use gyro. All of this together deadly combo my friend if ppl knew about this there face would look like this 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 basically playing codm on the wii with a Nintendo switch and customizable hud 😂
Does anybody's know of a controller with a similar form factor except the D Pad is one the top instead of the Analog stick making it optimal for retro games.
When you put the phone into the controller it's at a diagonal angle how is it possible to flop down like that? That's not healthy for the usb connector. Shouldn't it support it more ?
A Xbox Core Controller with a 8Bitdo Mobile Gaming Clip is still the best IMO for USB C options. You get access to any ports and once you flip the mount the screen can be positioned nicely over the controller.
What about playing MAME emulation in portrait mode for old-school games (DKong, Pac Man, Frogger, etc.) that had portrait-style screens? On my RG351P I can play those horizontally adjusting the right-side controllers to behave as a left-controlled joystick and the buttons on the right. But in this the USB-C connection is on the left, so it doesn't seem like that can be done as most phones won't rotate the screen upside down in portrait mode. Could use the left-side controllers but a D-Pad would make for awkward buttons, esp. if multiple buttons have to be pressed together in some games.
I bought the old version a few weeks ago and seen they had an updated version. I was a little disappointed I didn't do a little more research like I usually do but they sent me the updated version. I love this controller
that's really nice of them
The same thing happened to me, actually! I looked at something randomly and was disappointed that I ordered the "older" version when a new one came in so quickly, but then I looked and saw mine was the updated.
i buy bluetooth version and i cant play egg ns.... is worst xd
Does it work with the current gen (snapdragon 888) phones?
The vid actually answered it
Razer Kishi's advantage is the analog triggers.
The Gamesir's advantage is the overall better, more straightforward design when trying to place a phone in the holder, along with the bigger shoulder buttons.
That third USB-C controller with the pastel buttons has a built in headphone jack.
Can't somebody just make a controller that combines the best qualities of all 3?
But, x2 type c has analogue triggers as well
@@moonlalune8003
Watch at 2:36.
He says the triggers are either "on or off." That means no analog triggers. Is he wrong?
@@LarryLopez91 I misunderstood I thought he was referring to the sticks' l3 and r3. Thanks man.
You forget the gamesirs button mapping software it's a amazing feature that I wish my kishi had. But I don't really play enough native android games to care that much I guess I use it more for emulation.
@@TylerMBuller12 I think i'll get the X2. Kishi probably would have even better buttons but i dont mind, plus having analoge triggers isnt a priority for me even when i play racing games i am used to driving with keyboard so so i dont mind having no analogue triggers
I didn't expect to absolutely love the bluetooth version. The gray color and the joycon-like thumbstick caps make it amazing
Do you notice any latency compared to the USB C version?
I like the grey colour more and I'd mainly be using it for Xbox game pass
@@nonnygb There's always going to be a bit more latency when using bluetooth compared to using a usb connection, but I can never tell since I always use bluetooth controllers and play retro games. I also use it for ps5 remote play and notice no lag, so you'll probably be fine if you go for the bluetooth one.
can i use it one an xbox ?
The USB-C connector should be on the right half. This would allow the power button and the volume rocker of the phone to be on the upper edge. Edited: This was what I thought. Having bought one and tried out I realized the volume rocker and the power button are to be controlled with your right thumb and this is indeed better.
Not all phones have it so. Mine has volume rocker on the left so it would be on the upper side when inserted. I would preffer oppossing side mostly because i am used to having the speaker on right right side when i play
hey i know this is a request but could you do me a favor? do you think by connecting the usb to pc you can directly play with it?
@@aymodaslacker8852 I don't think this is possible. You need to have driver software. You will be better off getting an XBox game controller.
@@oldtechie6834 alright thanks for the answer
like many people already mentioned, not all phones will work exaclt like that.
one thing to note is that this X2 model works best with the Galaxy fold series of phones, because when you expand the screen it actually will expand to the top instead of the bottom
What timing! I literally JUST got one of these in the mail today.
The only downside I can find on it is the issue with the case. BUT it's one of the few controllers that fit my s9 plus.
I've owned a couple of Gamesir G3 controllers for a few years now and they are a solid product. Not surprised this product is good too
I was one of those idiots having trouble setting up the overlay. In the end I just was not looking close enough. This product is awesome! Thanks ETA Prime!
how did you do it?
The Gamesir x2 with a decent phone is one of the best handheld emulator 'consoles' around. One issue I have with the controller is that it does drain the battery even when you don't use it over a day or so - so you either switch off the phone or keep it on trickle charge.
Wait, the Gamesir x2 uses battery while off or it uses up the phone's battery? Are you not taking it off while you're done playing and you just lug around your giant phone with you everywhere? 🤔
@@VesperAegis I put my old phone into it. My current strategy is to power off the phone.
8:33 Seeing Ryu do an air back dash is quite jarring. Took my brain a second to process what I just saw lmao.
Love my Gamesir X2 USB-C! Fits great on my Sony Xperia 1 iii, even with a case! (Granted, my case is a slim type one, à la Pitaka, but not quite)
Didn't know about their app, though... Great video to show me that I could probably use it with PS Remote Play (which only support PS4/5 controller via Bluetooth, or only bluetooth controllers...)
I have the last controller you showed and yes, it doesn't have L3/R3, but it has 4 option buttons that you can map to L3/R3, and also is really cheap, not the best, but is cool to have no input lag at all
It was listed for $80 on Amazon where did you pick it from?
I bought this one too, but I notice that it has a huge battery drain more than any other bluethooth models (other people from reddit noticed it too), so I bought a x2 after that.
I also have that controller and I must add that the sticks are super responsive and seem to be the same that the vita has (hence no button), has a built-in audio jack and the app of the controller lets you simulate touchscreen presses without having to activate the app like mantis and the stick sensibility options are great.
really worth it, L3/R3 aren't even used that much, so isn't a great loss.
I bought one of these about 6 weeks ago, the idea being to make my phone (Galaxy s20fe) as a mobile emulator. Wow! It's a cracking controller. It just works and great build quality.
Can it be use for pc controller via usb cable extension?
@@joeuuk no wtf?
Hi mate! I'm doing the same with that very phone! If you read this by any chance, can you tell me what you do about sound? I use USB C headphones on this phone, but I'm given to understand there's no pass through for things like that. Cheers mate.
@@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2 Mine broke. Didn't even last much longer than 12 months. I don't recommend this anymore. The 'Kishi is a much better device. I've only ever used Bluetooth for audio though.
I own this controller and I have for 2 months now. Things I have to say is after a while this controller can be uncomfortable especially on the right hand side. I think if they added some controller bulge to hold more in the palm like the bottom sections of controllers that stick out. I've had great luck with emulation on my phone and I really like the clicky-ness of the buttons except the sound for night time use but its not a real issue unless you are trying to hide that you are playing. I don't play fighting games so I do not get the issue people have the d button layout but I would have no issue if i had gotten that one instead. I have a note 9 and a spigen case and I have no issue keeping the case on while playing. I think the issue only comes with thick cases or for phones that are super big like the s21.
I own the galaxy note 10, would you think this controller would work including the case on the phone?
@@shawnjarrett3924 I think if it fits at all it would only fit without a case. From what I remember.
Hi there! I also have a note 8 with a Spivey phone. Would I be able to play GBA games through PS2 just fine? How is the input latency/lag with this controller?
@@JNguyen07Max there is no lag on the controller.
Idk what a that other phone is. Also I have not done any testing on anything on anything other than gba, NGC, Wii and Gameboy. I would watch a separate video on your phone capabilities. The controller will not be a limitation on your ability to play.
seriously the BEST controller I've waited for years, kishi is too bulky as a mobile device.
I put off buying a phone controller for almost a year because all of the best ones had some kind of compromise, but now with this new x2, it's got type c connectivity, a read d-pad and the screen mapping app. I think its finally time to buy a controller.
This has a compromise too. No headphone jack. We need a headphone jack.
@@usamasaud11 I think all of my headphones are Bluetooth nowadays
@@McPatMan124 bluetooth headphones work, but for games like pubg that rely heavily on sound, the delay can be a game changer. We all know, just like the bluetooth counterpart for the gamepad has a button input delay, bluetooth headphones have an audio delay as well. If they can adjust a 3.5mm jack in the pad, it will be a game changer. The headphones with minimal audio delay cost hundreds of dollars. And there still is a delay. I was just watching reviews, and nobody seems to have mentioned this. Why not use the usb c port to it's full potential?
@@usamasaud11 there is no delay with Bluetooth audio 😂😂😂 you must not have ever had wireless headphones that cost more than $20 😁
@@TheJamesMeals come out of your lil bubble mate. Bluetooth latency is real and affects
This looks perfect for my Galaxy S10plus. I have just begun playing older game systems such as Saturn, Dreamcast, N64 and Gamecube via emulators on my phone but also play Pubg and Cod Mobile, so this will be a handy controller for all of these games. Just ordered it, great review!
I ordered mine one night when I was a bit inebriated so it was a rather good surprise a week or two later. Feels great and absolutely love mine
Tempted to get one myself. Are the thumbsticks clickable?
@@DubDasher ye, it is, both thumbsticks.
If you get one, definitely update the firmware using the app. It comes with a Nintendo button map. You can switch it to Xbox key mapping in the app.
@@MachineChrist6 thank you for the info!
@@apoenaferraz3512 thank youmy last one I got (flydigi wee2) was not clickable. I figured it'd be fine but it's not lol.
Just a note, the Bluetooth version of this supports iPhones as well. It's not MFi certified but it disguises itself as an Xbox controller so the iPhone will pair with it. I bought one last week and it's a great alternative to the Razer Kishi or the Backbone.
I wish there was a backbone for Android
Can this be used with ps5 remote play?
@@synthesia100 Yes
This is a really good controler but for thoes interested please keep in mind that the Power Pass-through Charging DOES NOT work with all Android Phones! I've had this and used it with my Samsung S20 FE and didn't get the Pass-through Charging. But strange enough my older Samsung A70 DID... This is the only fault I've found with this controler...
What do u recommend with s20 FE
Great review and great controller, I absolutely love mine! Works perfect with most emulators, but I struggle to get this set up as a Wiimote Plus on Dolphin. Could you please do a short video showing how to play Skyward Sword on Dolphin using this controller? Thanks a lot!
Just map your controller to the Wiimote but in order it you to offer this motion controls you are going to have to use the phone to use the sword
@@prestongower7800 you can set motion to button input. I set wiimote motions to the right analog
You could pair this with either Nvidia or AMD's streaming direct from your PC to do the GPU leverage and chill on the couch.
Does anyone know how this actually performs? How are analog deadzones? Button and dpad clickiness? Any grinding? Basic things you'd think would be talked about in any gamepad review.
They should add a retractable-pencil-like mechanism to the USB c port so that it can reach further in for thicker cases
Pen*
it would be so much harder to produce(so it would cost more) and more movable parts means it would break more easily.
I have this updated version and it is awesome.
same i use it n my backbone
@@lllllll5990 I use it on my redmi note 8 pro but sadly my phone is very bad at eggns emulator :(
As for the GameSir Key mapper, can your account in Genshin Impact be banned due to it? Mihoyo has a nasty history of banning players using 3rd-party key mappers in the past, especially with Honkai Impact 3rd before...
I really want to know this as well.
@Matthew W Thank you :D
I just need a new job to get one for myself...
Ordered the Bluetooth one via your link and it was free because I had a gift card on my account. Yay free toys!
The controller is not bad! Loses Bluetooth connectivity to my phone which is literally inside it once or twice but that seemed to be just the terrible interference I get in my building. Most of the time it's great.
Octopus is horrible.
It's a wrapper that you have to re log into your gplay account in.
You're right Genshin doesn't work. They seem to be detecting for bots and are finding the container as a bot. I doubt it will ever work again and I regret paying for the Octopus upgrade.
For retro gaming it's great, though. Just wish Android joystick support were universal.
This would be perfect if there is a headphone jack in this like the N1 pro controller..
Yup. It's a big reason to avoid it, IMO.
ETA makes the best vids bar none! Cheers 🥂
Fun fact. If you update the firmware from the android app, they have an option to swap the abxy layout from switch to Xbox, so the A button is on the bottom. Way better.
Thank you! Was just about to ask about that. I hate the switch layout... I might just get this gamesir
That was the first thing I've made after the last firmware update. I know that the design and layout was switch like but it just sucks and noone uses that 😂
thanks 🙏
I'd go with bluetooth. YES I understand lag. BUT I'm not playing anything but retro (mostly) platformers. The issue I have is 1) damage to the connector and or port. 2) if my phone is too thick or thin it will also put stress on both points of contact.
I haven't watched the video yet, so he may have said this already, but the type C plug on this does swivel up and down. With that said, if your phone is too thick it's just not going to work. My daughters Pixel 4A phone with case and popsocket won't fit even with the popsocket removed (but the connector for it still on). I would still be careful plugging and unplugging the phone from it though. I use it with my Galaxy S9 and it seems to fit fine, but that's a decently thin phone.
@@freezingCode I'm using a 4a with it, actually, and that official felt case or whatever it's called. It fits in, but I have to push a bit on the top to get it to sync in. Works fine after that.
Input Lag + Platformers usually don't go well together.
@@ThunderDragonRandy There's not that noticeable of a lag. I've played sonic, mario and whatnot on my phones with crapier 2.1 tech than 4.0 or 5.0 BT. It's easier to forgive lag than a damaged USB C port.
I've got the Razor Kishi as well and it's one of my favorite controllers that I have for my phone
Please test for game slam dunk,, this work ?
Is tempted to get this controller... but really irked a bit that Genshin and Mihoyo's other game Honkai Impact doesn't support "Native"/"Official" Controller Support on Android. And is hoping that they add it in the near future.
Would get this in the future... when I have a Better "Gaming" Phone
It's funny that as of 2023, both Genshin and HK3rd still dont support gamepad on Android, but their newest game Star Rail does. It seems like implement controller support for older games aint their priority.
Things that Gamesir X2 needs to have to become the best controller:
- Black color
- P2 port for headphones
- Windows support
As this controller doesn't use bluetooth, I'd find it more confortable to use bluetooth headphones.
@@swordlunge Bluetooth headphones usually have lag, which isnt great for gaming
@@GabrielLimau I only notice any audio lag when I use a Bluetooth controller at the same time as a Bluetooth headphone. Other than that, there's no noticeable lag for me, and even if there was, it is hardly as concerning as input lag.
Microsd slot
I want to use this as a plug in emulation device
This controller makes me want to play games on my phone (which I never do)
Same
you can cut off the left side rubber to make more room for a case. I cut them and I use my case inside the grip, works perfectly
For a second by looking at the thumbnail I thought genshin came to the switch
We can only pray
@@sem6045 What
@@sem6045 to be fair, Qiqi is an immortal zombie who has livedfor hundreds of years, and Diona is a Cat Girl, so biologically speaking she should be old already (in terms of cat years, that is).
@@thehwguy4293 about that uhh....Kleeee....
using this with note 9 and works perfect with alot of games and emulators
You can always get a second phone or use the phone that you have before you buy a new phone to replace it, to run your games in this.
This review seals the deal for me - I have an old Huawei P10 that's got plenty of juice to play some of the more demanding games (upto PSP) and wanted to buy a controller to use it as an emulation console.
I hope they release a version with a full Type C passthrough like the Backbone for the iphone. I want to use my DAC/AMP combos over using bluetooth for audio.
I just want a better controller that the saitake7006
@@onion_____ The Bluetooth Saitake controller is more comfortable but we don't have a type C version and if we did I doubt it will have a full passthrough. Backbone may make one.
@@land_walker I was wondering if it's even possible to mod a usb c on it and use it with android
The razer kishi also shows up on Amazon renewed semi-regularly. Mine had the original box and everything, it looked like it was opened and then returned. For $50 not bad
Me too 😋
If you use a bigger phone, I think the choice between the Kishi and the Gamesir does come down to personal preference, but for smaller models like the Pixel 4a, the Kishi isn't stable enough to be comfortable to use.
Why does the USB-C port have to be on the left side? I've seen a lot of landscape things default to an orientation 180 degrees to what's shown, and I always want my volume and power buttons on the top.
I just got the controller and it baffles me as well. Like the Nerd says, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?
not only that, but the speakers are reversed, so you are forced to use headphones, but you can't even use headphones because it doesn't have an audio port and your phone audio port (if your phone even has one) is blocked, bluetooth has delay so isn't a good option.
@@sakitoshi That's why I prefer the much cheaper N1 Pro controller over this.
Bought this back in January when it first came out. Zero issues. Have had a great time with it!
How is the deadzones?
It's worth mentioning that the button layout is the same as Nintendo controllers, which are inverse to the Xbox layout. While a lot of games have options to remap button, a lot don't. In most emulators you'll have to remap the keys for sure.
thanks for that info, very useful
I've had this for the past three months. Hate the placement of the screenshot button. Lots of accidental presses of it. Also needs foregrips for your palms for better comfort. Other than that, emulations have worked quite well. Way better than touchscreen alone.
It definitely took some time for me to adjust to holding it in a way that didn't become uncomfortable after 5 minutes. It still become uncomfortable after 20-30 minutes for me. I bought it because it was sleek, but definitely compromised comfort in the process. I have the same gripes with the Switch when it's not docked.
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There's also the fact that the Bluetooth version uses the traditional Xbox button layout while the updated version here still annoyingly uses the Nintendo button layout.
Edit: Apparently, you can update the firmware of the updated version so that it uses the Xbox layout though I'm not sure of this.
I'll confirm the firmware thing, I just did it after learning about it here. You can uninstall the app after if you don't need it as well.
Couple of suggestions:
1. Recessed analog sticks
2. A variety of sizes to match better with smaller phones (specifically used for retro gaming)
3. A couple of retro designs to choose from (NES, SNES,PSX style, etc)
So, Actually, for smaller phones, this thing is way better than something like the Razer Kishi. Using my Pixel 4a on the two of them, the Kishi isn't stable at all, while the GameSir X2 basically feels exactly the same as it does with bigger phones, but lighter due to the difference in phone weight.
I don't agree with the recessed sticks (Would be more portable, sure, but those just aren't as good to use), but I do agree with the additional designs. Pure white isn't my favorite color in the world, and while I don't know if I would care about retro designs, I would like black or something.
I would love if these controller makers would make a 6 button pad. I want ABC and XYZ. Please.
I loved my razr kishi for the first 6 months. After that the left side of the controller stopped responding. After looking into the issues it seems to be common due to the build. So I will be grapping this controller next.
Got this at 50% off from a free market. Gotta this controller is really good (despite the yuzu code part). It fits better for a thinner phone. My Aquos zero 2 fits perfectly.
They keys are super responsive and nice. Not a fan of the switch-like colour of the joycon joint tho. I still think it is a bit pricey but it is a really nice controller. The key mapping feature is the main reason that I am buying it ❤️
*_Why is it the USB on the left side though???_*
I watched just and caught the clip, it's a bit Hefty overall but will take time to get used to but what I found out is you don't even need Bluetooth Xbox series s is what I'm using controller USB C to USB C it recognizes the controller natively no lag.
I'm using a Poco X3 Pro, if you're worried about the cable length you can just get a tiny cable that just links from the controller to the phone works beautifully not sure about other phones but Pro X3 Pro don't even need Bluetooth!
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I would not recommend the razer kishi myself. While it worked, it worked wellish. But at some point the left analog trigger started jamming and becoming unusable. After taking the controller apart and studying the design of it, and trying to fix it. It was unfixable,
Also this was only having it for maybe a month. It was like... 80 or 100 CAD so it was very much a ripoff. Pls no buy
The same thing happened to me. It's a shame they keep pumping out a flawed product
In regards to it not plugging in with a case on your phone. If you always use a case on your phone just take a box cutter to the rubber right beside the USB C port on the controller. After doing that my S21 fit with a fairly large case. I wouldn't expect a phone in a larger otterbox to fit but a phone in any silicon case won't have an issue.
LG V60 Thin Q owner here. It fits.
good job gamesir with that app, razer Kishi lacks miles for on-screen mapping: /
What about a headphone Jack? Old those vendors should include a 3.5 mm. If you are on the go you don’t want to bother the people around you. Don’t say Wireless because audio input latency is an issue. At least in games like Bust a Groove for PS1.
Jus got my gamesir g6 for my cod mobile for $11 thru Amazon in love
EggNS stole code from yuzu, and made it closed source. It is also is illegal as it breaks copyright. I would not support them
I got the gamesir x2 Bluetooth version and I love it!! Works great with iPhone and android and I played lots a fighting games and surprisingly I have ZERO LAG. Love the Bluetooth version very much. Best Buy ever for me.
I wonder if you could make a review on another mini pc called CHUWI Herobox and test some emulation. It’s pretty similar to the CHUWI Larkbox but there is some small changes with it. Big fan keep up the good work and great video👍🏻👍🏻
So many people seem to be confused by the legality of emulators AND the game files used by them.
If you physically or digitally own a game, it is legal to play any game you bought, on any legally owned device or program for personal use. Simple. there is absolutely nothing more or less to that rule. As a consumer, the ONLY concern I should have, is whether or not I own the game (again, physically or digitally), and if the file is clean from malicious code (simply for my own safety). Meaning, as long as I own an official copy of the game in any shape or form, I am allowed by law, to download those files from anyplace I desire, even if they are riddled with viruses, whether or not the person I download from is allowed to give it to me or not. That's their problem, not mine.
Even if I am not 100 percent accurate by every single relatable law description. I will in no way be subject to any sort of consequence that means anything. If any effort goes out to punish someone, I am telling you right now, as a consumer with rights to own/download/use files I have licenses for, I will not be the one anyone goes after.
ive seen few of your videos from recommended but after this review with genshin impact you sir earned a subscriber
I wish you would show the dead zones 😫 that's the deal breaker for me
How bad is it? What is a good android controller without dead zones beside xbx/ps4 controller?
@Anthony Mendenhall I'm excited to buy it :D
Just purchased today. Thanks for the review
I didn't even know I had the updated version but it does have the real d pad so nice ! It's a really great controller to have I have it set up with an old google pixel xl and just use it mainly for minecraft bedrock edition although I might check out some emulation as well
Would like to see some support along the long side edge of the phone, I can see a lot of pressure being put on the usb socket
I just got this and love it. I love it more once I put joystick extender's on it. Feels almost perfect with the extender's
Cool, where do I buy those and what else do you upgrade on it? Do you know any controllers *even* Better?
I found this exact controller for $40. An absolute steal
Great video. I need something like this for my Amazon HD 2019 10.1'' tablet.
Slightly concerned it doesn't have a lip at the bottom to prevent phones from slipping out, however the rubber seems grippy enough. I'd probably go for the BT version to avoid wear on my usb c port, but also cause I like playing ds games in portrait orientation.
When he slides it apart he makes it look really easy, it actually retracts to fit your phone nicely. No worries about it falling out
Hey eta prime... Just got my hands on a optiplex 7070 ultra... Was thinking it would make a great machine for an arcade box. Anywho its an older model at this point but something ive never seen you do. Didnt know if you were aware of the model of pc. Would make for a cool arcade cabinet machine. Keep up the good work.
What I'm waiting on is a USB C controller that is case friendly AND works with larger phones like the S21 Ultra. Is that a thing, yet? I see the S21, but I usually have a bigger phone.
Depends on the case. A Note 10 Lite fits fine while in a somewhat slim case. No Otterboxes, of course.
Can I use the USBC on the gamepad to connect Minijack earphones??
This needs to be Tested.
One of the best purchases I have ever made, the dpad is day by night better than razers kishi trash dpad for retro games 👌👌
Mine just died and I barely use the thing. From what ive been able to find out, The usb c port ribbon on the inside breaks due to you putting your phone in the controller.
Thanks, razer kishi is the one I need for portable use
Hi ETA PRIME i like your videos and allways Look at them :)
Hey ETA Prime, when you do finally get around to reviewing the pine phone, I would really like to see you test out some emulation on it and also see if these sort of USB-C controllers are compatible with it as it runs Linux instead of Android. Thanks in advance!
It's crazy how the reviewers really don't like to say that besides the spare USB-C port EARPHONE IS NOT AN OPTION in this GameSir, so I brought another with earphone support.
There apparently is one pokemon game with huge file size that my brother literally could not play for his life. He immediately uninstalled the application after realizing it was not playable by just the touch screen; at least with his gaming capabilities. It was available to download at least when he found it; it might be taken down from the store, however I feel that might not be the case because the name of the application is so obscure.
This controller is perfect fit for my Galaxy Fold2(with case) and good for Xbox Gamepass games. I love this controller.
Hello folks, does anyone have a recommendation for a button mapper overlay for someone who is using an Xbox controller, if like to use it with genshin impact but I haven't been able to find a good one
One thing I'd like to add - I had to install the Gamesir app in order to change the controller from "Switch" mode to "Xbox" mode. The buttons were swapped and it was driving me crazy.
Other fun fact. The the Bluetooth version also has a button to easily turn on any button as a turbo button.
I never hear anyone complain about the right stick on these switch style controllers. It's probably just me but I think the non-offset right stick is horrible. While using the action buttons it either gets in the way or I get hand cramp from the way you need to hold this to not move the stick.
IMHO the Wii-U style is way better.
Stop holding it wrong and you won't have that issue.
This is great! Would this work on the Lenovo tablets you've reviewed? If not, which do you recommend for tablets?
@@bland9876 Agreed unless it's like a Kindle you're better off using a clip or stand and then a regular controller like what ETA prime displayed at the end of the video.
I made a video about this actually. It simulates touch inputs, therefore yes you will be playing in touch lobbies. Finally the suffering of controller players can come to an end. if u a die hard controller player like we r the aspect of not only being able to get lobbies but sweaty lobbies, not being limited to controller sensitivity that does not go high enough, obviously can't forget the damn near 2 full seconds it takes to go prone on reg controller, you will actually be able to separate ur slide and prone buttons for them quick drop shots, and let's be honest codm doesn't provide the best controller hud. Being able to choose which buttons to assign is huge w. Making L3 slide is great cuz to hit slide cancel all ya gotta do is click+turn on single analog combined with quick ads tap then R1 much better for weapon switch, if u got the paddles on the back like i do (and before u even ask u cannot use my controller the kunai 3 unless u have an Asus ROG phone) those r great too i put left one as jump right one prone this set up is deadly simply cuz u can perform all of your movement needs without ever taking your thumbs off the analogs. There's def a way u can achieve this effect without the paddles might have to get creative and assign some buttons to a button combo which gamesir let's u do. That is HUGE ADVANTAGE over regular controller and just the fact that it's connected to the phone gives u possibility to use gyro. All of this together deadly combo my friend if ppl knew about this there face would look like this 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 basically playing codm on the wii with a Nintendo switch and customizable hud 😂
have you seen anyone extend these successfully for tablets? would be nice to be able to use it with the ipad pro
Thank you, I just ordered one using your link and it's going to be delivered in 3 hours. 😁 👍🏾
Nice, could you do a battle beaver vs Scuff video? In combination with some kind of bracket to hold your phone
Not many review showing the flydigi apex 2.
How ETA would review it someday.
He have reviewed that gamepad. Sorry for bad english
Just ordered z fold 3, is this still the one to get, eta? Thanks, your video rock!
Awesome video is always! Please do one with the Bluetooth version as a comparison.
Hi ETA Prime, do you know if these type of controllers will work with raspberry pi 4 running retropi?
Detailed review and indepth information. Thank you, and you got a sub
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Does anybody's know of a controller with a similar form factor except the D Pad is one the top instead of the Analog stick making it optimal for retro games.
When you put the phone into the controller it's at a diagonal angle how is it possible to flop down like that? That's not healthy for the usb connector. Shouldn't it support it more ?
A Xbox Core Controller with a 8Bitdo Mobile Gaming Clip is still the best IMO for USB C options. You get access to any ports and once you flip the mount the screen can be positioned nicely over the controller.
What about playing MAME emulation in portrait mode for old-school games (DKong, Pac Man, Frogger, etc.) that had portrait-style screens? On my RG351P I can play those horizontally adjusting the right-side controllers to behave as a left-controlled joystick and the buttons on the right. But in this the USB-C connection is on the left, so it doesn't seem like that can be done as most phones won't rotate the screen upside down in portrait mode. Could use the left-side controllers but a D-Pad would make for awkward buttons, esp. if multiple buttons have to be pressed together in some games.