I remember this game. 17 hits, 16 singles, 23 LOB. Schmidt was still Schmidt, but Lefty was on fumes. And even though the Mets lost, you could still see they were gonna have a special year. I forgot, though, that L.A. was on the team at the time, and just as valuable. Thank you for posting!
I actually recall seeing this game on a TV set (in one of those sporting goods stores) over at Sherway Gardens (in Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada) that particular afternoon (especially when Glenn Wilson came up to bat for the Phillies). If anything, what I really observed that day was that the New York Mets were wearing a commemorative patch on the left sleeves of their jerseys (in honour of 1986 also being the Mets 25th season of existence in baseball).
Jeltzy with the game winning hit! It was definitely the Mets year but I definitely enjoyed the 86 Phillies because they never quit when they were down .The Phils even had a few guys from the 80 team yet and some from the 83 team..
Cub fan here.....I miss the REAL NL East. Miss playing the Mets and Phillies all the time. Seems like we play AL teams as often these days. Expansion fucked up a lot of things. There STILL isn’t enough talent to have the number of teams there are today. No ridiculous playoff rules where your team wins 97 games and has to play a one game playoff. Just two divisions, one playoff series to get to the WS. Easy. Makes sense. I guess it was dumb the Braves and Reds were in the NL West at the time, but damn... NL East: Mets Phillies Pirates Cubs Cardinals Expos Those were the days.
Funny how the beginning of the year saw a ground ball go through the legs of 1B Hernandez that led to the loss of the game for the Mets, and the end of the year saw the most famous ground ball in Mets history go through the legs of 1B Buckner that led to a win for the Mets.
I attended this game at age 11 and remember it very well. All looked lost before Steve Jeltz (of all people) laced that 2-run triple to the gap. It was a point of pride that that Phillies were the only NL team to field a winning reciord against the Mets in 1986.
@@OBESPRING1982 Not true. They just got swept. The Mets had thousands of fans down at the Vet that weekend and wanted nothing more than to do it at the Vet. Many unruly, low class Mets fans tore out seats from the Vet in disgust.
@@jabraun1973 I suspect that you are lying about the seats being torn out because I know you're lying about the Mets not preferring to clinch at Shea. And if you are a Philadelphia sports fan calling out another teams fan base for being unruly, it must be out of jealousy.
@@OBESPRING1982 they didn't "let" the Phillies do anything. Who "lets" a team beat them after they brought champagne with them to pop once they clinched?
+Brian Davis (Professor B) Lefty collected his 4,000th K while with the Giants in 1986. Eric Davis of the Reds was the strikeout victim. At the time Carlton was the second pitcher in baseball history to accomplish that feet as Nolan Ryan became the first pitcher ever to reach that milestone during the 1985 season.
Joe B The release of Carlton Press Conference was one of the saddest things to watch. The reason he hung around after his prime was because he was broke after his agent cleaned him out behind his back.
This is cool I went to 26 Met games that year. No World Series But I was at Game 3 against the Astros when Dykstra won it and I got to run around the field when the Mets clinched the Division BUT this game in Philadelphia was the first game I saw that year, I later went to a saturday night game in Philly when the Mets had a chance to clinch but they got swept but it worked out as I said Above,
Jimmy M My dad, may he rest in peace, scraped together to buy season tickets for that year. Saw about 80 games and was at every home playoffs and World Series game including the infamous Bill Buckner game. Amazing memories.
I was scrolling comments after posting and forgot I had already commented What the heck It was a great game even though my Mets lost and of course the season more than made up for it
Funny to see Dave Stewart in a Phillies uniform before being released then the A's picked him up at mid-season back in '86. In fact his first start in a A's uniform was against the Red Sox where he beat Roger Clemens who would go on to win the American League Cy Young Award and MVP. Steward would have four straight 20-win seasons from 1987-1990 and never lost in the ALCS when with the A's.
Bruh....that Denorex commercial tho Scully and Garagiola are amazing. God, remember the shitty astroturf fields? Outdoor stadium, no friggin excuse other than being lazy, to not have grass.
If I’m not mistaken even though the Mets dumped the prick Foster, didn’t the Mets players vote after the World Series to give the moody , selfish prick Foster a partial World Series share?
This was the case of the extra innings craze. This game: the Mets/Phillies matchup, the third GOW game White Sox/Tigers (seen and removed from TH-cam), Angels/Brewers whereby Gary Pettis collides with another fielder (not seen on TH-cam) and again which got him suspended at one point. None could ever compare to the Jay Randolph and Joe Morgan the "Epic at Expo Park" (what I would call it) when the Cardinals prevailed in 17 innings against the Expos; this cancelled the White Sox/Red Sox broadcast. I never got to see the end of this saga for I was gone. Perhaps the Twins/Angels never made it on the air whereby Phil Stone and Jim Kaat never had the opportunity to make a living that day. I don't know if fans ever have enjoyed the second GOW game like the first.
This Cardinals/Expos Game of the Week did eventually cancel both the White Sox/Red Sox as well as the Twins/Angels second half of the doubleheader game. It would be nice if that game would be available here on TH-cam so long as MLB has the copyright and a disclaimer is mentioned at the bottom. That would certainly be interesting to watch. I have never seen the conclusion of the game for I was obliged to attend a special event elsewhere.
The Mets Phillies were long but extremely intense and competitive to watch until the end. So what if the Family Circle Cup was unaired by this game, no one has ever left their seats or should I say chairs.
Actually was a good Phillies team in 1986. Was an even better Mets team. Schmidt won the MVP (probably should have gone to Gary Carter that year). Note - It would be the last over .500 Phillies team until 1993.
tubularbill Phillies were good, but I don’t think better than the Mets who won 108 games. Schmidt only won the MVP because the vote was split between Carter, Hernandez and Strawberry.
Stewart Goodwin What an absolute joke. Keith Hernandez who was on suspension but allowed to play under conditions that he took a random drug test during the 1986 season, said they never tested him once. There was more cocaine in baseball in the 1980s then there was bubblegum. What a politician he would have made. He has lied through his teeth the entire interview from having no political aspirations to saying our minor-leaguers are tested for drugs regularly which never happened then or now, except possibly for steroids rarely.
14:20 interesting that baseball has the NBC lettering which wouldn't officially debut for a couple weeks... guess they decided not to bother making a graphic with the old font or a generic font when there'd only be a couple times to use it before the rebrand launched!
The Membership Manifesto Review - Dont Buy The Membership Manifesto By John Racine Die hard Mets fan here & I remember that game. I was 9 in 85 & if I recall Von Hayes had 2 home runs in the 1st inning! Phillies were up 16-1 after 2 innings.
I respected Peter Ueberoff (sp?) for revolutionizing how the Olympics are paid for. But, holy moly, he's shilling for the owners in that interview. Collusion didn't exist? Baseball was drug-free? An eminently able man... and slimy as hell.
I'll forever side-eye Ueberroth for allowing NBC to lose the MLB TV rights to CBS and their $1.2 billion at the end of the 1989 season. As Dick Ebersol put it, Ueberroth was totally focused on business. Ebersol said "Ueberroth wanted his legacy to be the maximum amount of money. Baseball got this enormous overbid with CBS, coupled with expanding the cable package (on ESPN) from zero to four nights a week. Now, when they find themselves in trouble, they've got no place to expand. There just wasn't a lot of foresight. (Baseball was) just looking for the big score."
Terrence Clay Ueberroth wasn't Commissioner in 1989. A. Bartlett Giamatti began the season as Commissioner then died and Fay Vincent took over. Blame them.
The CBS contract was signed in December 1988, which was at the tail-end of Peter Ueberroth's term. And technically, he was the commissioner in 1989, albeit from January to the start of April.
I love these older games, and the commercials are great too!
Classic Game of the week commercials, pre game. its like traveling back in time
Frank Cashen gets most of the credit for the 1980's Mets success!!! I love watching these old games!!! Thank You for posting!
I remember this game. 17 hits, 16 singles, 23 LOB. Schmidt was still Schmidt, but Lefty was on fumes. And even though the Mets lost, you could still see they were gonna have a special year. I forgot, though, that L.A. was on the team at the time, and just as valuable.
Thank you for posting!
I actually recall seeing this game on a TV set (in one of those sporting goods stores) over at Sherway Gardens (in Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada) that particular afternoon (especially when Glenn Wilson came up to bat for the Phillies).
If anything, what I really observed that day was that the New York Mets were wearing a commemorative patch on the left sleeves of their jerseys (in honour of 1986 also being the Mets 25th season of existence in baseball).
Jeltzy with the game winning hit! It was definitely the Mets year but I definitely enjoyed the 86 Phillies because they never quit when they were down .The Phils even had a few guys from the 80 team yet and some from the 83 team..
Cub fan here.....I miss the REAL NL East. Miss playing the Mets and Phillies all the time. Seems like we play AL teams as often these days. Expansion fucked up a lot of things. There STILL isn’t enough talent to have the number of teams there are today. No ridiculous playoff rules where your team wins 97 games and has to play a one game playoff. Just two divisions, one playoff series to get to the WS. Easy. Makes sense.
I guess it was dumb the Braves and Reds were in the NL West at the time, but damn...
NL East:
Mets
Phillies
Pirates
Cubs
Cardinals
Expos
Those were the days.
It's nice to see the players not go crazy when the winning run scored.
Vince Scully, Joe Garagiola great broadcasting team.
Watching the pregame, I keep waiting for the Commissioner's pants to catch fire.
Funny how the beginning of the year saw a ground ball go through the legs of 1B Hernandez that led to the loss of the game for the Mets, and the end of the year saw the most famous ground ball in Mets history go through the legs of 1B Buckner that led to a win for the Mets.
I attended this game at age 11 and remember it very well. All looked lost before Steve Jeltz (of all people) laced that 2-run triple to the gap. It was a point of pride that that Phillies were the only NL team to field a winning reciord against the Mets in 1986.
The Mets let the Phils sweep them in Philly in September because they wanted to clinch the NL East title at Shea.
@@OBESPRING1982 Not true. They just got swept. The Mets had thousands of fans down at the Vet that weekend and wanted nothing more than to do it at the Vet. Many unruly, low class Mets fans tore out seats from the Vet in disgust.
@@jabraun1973 I suspect that you are lying about the seats being torn out because I know you're lying about the Mets not preferring to clinch at Shea. And if you are a Philadelphia sports fan calling out another teams fan base for being unruly, it must be out of jealousy.
@@OBESPRING1982 they didn't "let" the Phillies do anything. Who "lets" a team beat them after they brought champagne with them to pop once they clinched?
@@OBESPRING1982also, they still had 2 more road games and would clinch IN St. Louis not New York
Those are great memories the game of the week on NBC
Really awesome to see Carlton pitching against the '86 Mets! He would be released later in the year in a tearful farewell...
+Joe B Yep and he would have a short stint with the Giants and would get his 3,000th career strikeout in a Giants uniform before getting released.
+Brian Davis (Professor B) Lefty collected his 4,000th K while with the Giants in 1986. Eric Davis of the Reds was the strikeout victim. At the time Carlton was the second pitcher in baseball history to accomplish that feet as Nolan Ryan became the first pitcher ever to reach that milestone during the 1985 season.
Joe B The release of Carlton Press Conference was one of the saddest things to watch. The reason he hung around after his prime was because he was broke after his agent cleaned him out behind his back.
@@ProfessorBMedia - The White Sox picked him up for the remainder of the season.
This is cool I went to 26 Met games that year. No World Series But I was at Game 3 against the Astros when Dykstra won it and I got to run around the field when the Mets clinched the Division BUT this game in Philadelphia was the first game I saw that year, I later went to a saturday night game in Philly when the Mets had a chance to clinch but they got swept but it worked out as I said Above,
Jimmy M My dad, may he rest in peace, scraped together to buy season tickets for that year. Saw about 80 games and was at every home playoffs and World Series game including the infamous Bill Buckner game. Amazing memories.
I saw about 15-18 games that year. No playoffs or WS but I saw some good games in 1986
what a team the Mets had
Their most valuable player that year was Bill Buckner. haha
leafyutube that's hilarious I love that
@leafyutube nope that honor goes to John McNamara he managed so poorly that series.
First Mets road game I ever saw in person. The night before I was at Meadowlands Arena watching Kiss and Blue Oyster Cult
I was scrolling comments after posting and forgot I had already commented What the heck It was a great game even though my Mets lost and of course the season more than made up for it
Asylum tour.
Funny to see Dave Stewart in a Phillies uniform before being released then the A's picked him up at mid-season back in '86. In fact his first start in a A's uniform was against the Red Sox where he beat Roger Clemens who would go on to win the American League Cy Young Award and MVP.
Steward would have four straight 20-win seasons from 1987-1990 and never lost in the ALCS when with the A's.
Bruh....that Denorex commercial tho
Scully and Garagiola are amazing.
God, remember the shitty astroturf fields? Outdoor stadium, no friggin excuse other than being lazy, to not have grass.
Vin Scully & Joe Garagiola.
And George Foster was released by the Mets to add veteran OF Lee Mazzili in August and Foster would finished the '86 season with the White Sox.
Foster dealt the race card when he was traded by the Mets. He ended up apologizing.
No such thing as the race card
ACS Shap Foster was a selfish son of a bitch
If I’m not mistaken even though the Mets dumped the prick Foster, didn’t the Mets players vote after the World Series to give the moody , selfish prick Foster a partial World Series share?
@TowGunner Foster wasnt traded he was outright released by the Mets.
“Baseball is drug free.” LMAO
When I first saw this I was like this guy is on drugs if he think that haha
This was the case of the extra innings craze. This game: the Mets/Phillies matchup, the third GOW game White Sox/Tigers (seen and removed from TH-cam), Angels/Brewers whereby Gary Pettis collides with another fielder (not seen on TH-cam) and again which got him suspended at one point. None could ever compare to the Jay Randolph and Joe Morgan the "Epic at Expo Park" (what I would call it) when the Cardinals prevailed in 17 innings against the Expos; this cancelled the White Sox/Red Sox broadcast. I never got to see the end of this saga for I was gone. Perhaps the Twins/Angels never made it on the air whereby Phil Stone and Jim Kaat never had the opportunity to make a living that day. I don't know if fans ever have enjoyed the second GOW game like the first.
This Cardinals/Expos Game of the Week did eventually cancel both the White Sox/Red Sox as well as the Twins/Angels second half of the doubleheader game. It would be nice if that game would be available here on TH-cam so long as MLB has the copyright and a disclaimer is mentioned at the bottom. That would certainly be interesting to watch. I have never seen the conclusion of the game for I was obliged to attend a special event elsewhere.
When someone does upload that game, please don't forget to title it "The Longest GOW Game". Thanks.
It really sucks that MLB keeps taking these older games down :(
At least Marv Albert wasn’t hiding in a closet wearing a dress lol
The Mets Phillies were long but extremely intense and competitive to watch until the end. So what if the Family Circle Cup was unaired by this game, no one has ever left their seats or should I say chairs.
Davy Johnson's Rolaids supply must have been exhausted...
Actually was a good Phillies team in 1986. Was an even better Mets team. Schmidt won the MVP (probably should have gone to Gary Carter that year). Note - It would be the last over .500 Phillies team until 1993.
tubularbill Phillies were good, but I don’t think better than the Mets who won 108 games. Schmidt only won the MVP because the vote was split between Carter, Hernandez and Strawberry.
10:23 - 11:33 Baseball is Drug-Free... Talk about missing the ball on that one!
Stewart Goodwin What an absolute joke. Keith Hernandez who was on suspension but allowed to play under conditions that he took a random drug test during the 1986 season, said they never tested him once. There was more cocaine in baseball in the 1980s then there was bubblegum. What a politician he would have made. He has lied through his teeth the entire interview from having no political aspirations to saying our minor-leaguers are tested for drugs regularly which never happened then or now, except possibly for steroids rarely.
@@michaelprete3083 he did have no political aspirations.
Half of the 86 Mets were on cocaine!!!
14:20 interesting that baseball has the NBC lettering which wouldn't officially debut for a couple weeks... guess they decided not to bother making a graphic with the old font or a generic font when there'd only be a couple times to use it before the rebrand launched!
5:13:38 let's go mets chant ..
00:40 "And then from beautiful Hilton Head, the Family Circle Cup...5 and a half hours from now."
Unless they're real diehard tennis fans, I'm pretty sure most people could give two seasquirts about the Family Circle Cup
Vin Scully and Joe G. That's as good as it gets.
42:47..first of many, including one very important one on October 27
Happy 28th Birthday present to me from Ray Knight that October evening.
Simpler times. (Sigh)
do you have the 26-7 drubbing we gave em in Philly in 85?The Calvin Shiraldi debacle, phillllies philllies
The Membership Manifesto Review - Dont Buy The Membership Manifesto By John Racine Die hard Mets fan here & I remember that game. I was 9 in 85 & if I recall Von Hayes had 2 home runs in the 1st inning! Phillies were up 16-1 after 2 innings.
Ask and you shall receive. th-cam.com/video/8ZwFlIVKQ-8/w-d-xo.html
Would go back in a minute
Major League Baseball doesn’t have a drug problem!!! Meanwhile half of the 86 Mets were doing drugs!! Lmao
I respected Peter Ueberoff (sp?) for revolutionizing how the Olympics are paid for. But, holy moly, he's shilling for the owners in that interview. Collusion didn't exist? Baseball was drug-free? An eminently able man... and slimy as hell.
I'll forever side-eye Ueberroth for allowing NBC to lose the MLB TV rights to CBS and their $1.2 billion at the end of the 1989 season. As Dick Ebersol put it, Ueberroth was totally focused on business. Ebersol said "Ueberroth wanted his legacy to be the maximum amount of money. Baseball got this enormous overbid with CBS, coupled with expanding the cable package (on ESPN) from zero to four nights a week. Now, when they find themselves in trouble, they've got no place to expand. There just wasn't a lot of foresight. (Baseball was) just looking for the big score."
Terrence Clay Ueberroth wasn't Commissioner in 1989. A. Bartlett Giamatti began the season as Commissioner then died and Fay Vincent took over. Blame them.
The CBS contract was signed in December 1988, which was at the tail-end of Peter Ueberroth's term. And technically, he was the commissioner in 1989, albeit from January to the start of April.
Terrence Clay Good to know
Umpires
HP
1B
2B
3B
Carltons arm was shot
KYW TV channel 3 Philadelphia
WNBC Channel 4 New York
1986 Mets drug free??? Lmao