What is POP Radar and Does It Matter?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- We discuss what POP radar is, how it works, how accurate it is, its limitations and abilities, show it in action, and show detections by the V1 3.8945 and BS/RDR Redline versus an MPH Bee III (67ms Ka POP) and MPH Z35 (16ms K POP).
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I got hit with POP about 15 years ago in NJ 287 south near Edison. I was in left lane and trooper got me, my Beltronics detector didn't alert quick enough. The trooper walks up (stripes on his arms) so I'm thinking I'm done, looks at dash and says "what's the matter? Doesn't that thing work?" I said: It can't beat your instant on unless someone is in front of me. He broke out laughing and gave me a warning
That’s awesome dude.
imagine how many speeders with radar detectors got spoofed on this vid when you shoot the radar. lol
When I sold radar detectors I used to tell customers that wanted to go for the "Cheaper" model. You are buying this to essentially avoid added costs such as the ticket itself, raised insurance, etc...Youll pay more up front but pay a whole lot less later. Also, Vortex Radar. You may want to look up the term, "Listener Fatigue". It essentially means people will tune away from you if the audio becomes too annoying. May I recommend you turn off, or turn the audio waaay down on the MPH radar tools.
Is MRCD/ MRCT different from POP?
@@jensqoxim extremely late lol but those are automated speed cameras different from POP
Ugh KA band at that close range triggers an instant emotional response in me.
TheAceHD true story
Like wat crap in ur pants?
Great videos!!. I understand that these are not COP detectors or POLICE CAR detectors, however I have a Valentine 1 and have received 2 tickets using it. Both times, the cop has been headed towards me. They then turn around and light me up. I look at my speed and when they tell me how fast I'm going, I can agree that they are very close to what I observed. My problem is the Valentine 1 NEVER, NEVER EVER registered the slightest beeping and no lights lit up. I do believe the cops when they told me the speed. I just dont understand why the unit didnt register. Thanks in advance for your help or advice. I recieved the last ticket yesterday. I purchased the Uniden r7 this morning.
Any tickets since using the R7? Lol
This guy loves radars!
i know he loves radars so much i he has like over 100 of them i wonder what started his radar detection fetish i have one also because i have 2 radars in my car 1 is a 100$ Wal-Mart cobra 14 band radar/laser 360 degree protection its the cobra SPX955 and i have a cheap Walmart 50$ whistler radar laser detector both have pop mode built in they both are simple just has highway mode and city mode and mute and i-mute and basic volume knob nothing fancy but i run both at the same time and it picks up all the time state troopers hiding in the spots they cut out in middle of highways the usually hide and duck into fox holes on highways or emergency roads on highways usually you can see the front end of the car but good cops hide their car or suv back more where you can't see them some cops will purposely stick out to give you the chance to slow down but most just back up far as they can in their fox hole run a laser straight across the highway set it at 80 to 83mph depending on what your states MPH is here in masschussets its 75MPH on the highway you can get away doing 80mph but your pushing it if you low by doing 90mph your going to get a nice 365$ ticket,,,so long story short invest in a radar detector not one fron 2013 or 2015 buy one that is a 2016 or 2017 model with pop mode and make sure it has 360 degree and has laser and radar built in there are some detectors that you can buy for 30$bucks that are laser only thats stupid you need radar also so just any 100$ or above detector is all you need i bought the 50$ whistler because it was on sale for 30$ so i grabbed it it works like heck i got to say it saved me a lot on those late days to work doing 85 to 90 to even 110 mph at points where there is guard rails for 2 miles and i know no cops can hide because the guard rails after awhile you will learn there trap spots i know every fox hole there is on the ay to work i see troopers shooting there radars at 5am in the fucking morning they love to get the early birds running late i also keep both my detectors on highway mode at all times even in the city and town roads i dunno why i feel highway mode is the best and is more sensitive and keeping it on highway uses all the features the radar detector has even though they only have 6 buttons dim mode,volume adjustment,mute,highway,city,i-mute mode
Excellent explanation of radar and showing actual real world demonstrations
I had no idea that POP was no longer something to really worry about.
I asked a county deputy once about tracking then locking. She replied that she didn't need to trac. She said if she see's the speed then that's what the ticket is written for. Hmmm
Learned a lot about pop. But a course the radar dect sitting on dash will alert
Love to see you test units down the road, and have some one shooting radar test then see how well the units will pick up the beams
In this case closeness isn't what causes it to alert. For example, here's a lower end detector that catches less than half of the POP shots I transmit: th-cam.com/video/0wSraTf1gBI/w-d-xo.html
RCMP in Canada have become turning unit on and off in a blink,uniden R8 doesnt make a beep.
I can tell you right now most Highway units don't track. Instant on is impossible to develop a tracking history. They just clock you and write you.
That radar gun makes the most obnoxious screeching sound ever! I don’t know how cops do it
Just got my redline!! Im coming from an Early Warning RSX-3055... Its cheap and it saved me many times, but it started going haywire!! Great video now I know.
Thanks for explaining POP mode.
Do another POP mode test with the New DSP radar detectors from Escort, Uniden, V1 ECT.
I tested the new R3 and it does a good job of detecting POP. It doesn't really matter though because it makes no difference in practice.
I know, just pollin ur leg. LOL spoke wit u yesreday..thanx 4 hav'n me aboard..I'm stuck watch'n some of ur older videos now. told u I bought a detector but just a begginer in this scene...
I just had a Pop alert in a small local town. I saw the officer as I passed by
Traffic guys don't "calibrate" anything. Only the manufacturer can. You can use a tuning fork to check accuracy. Got my ass handed to me in court one time because of this fact...just sayin.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? U WON A COURT?
True.
@@40edison no, he got schooled in court is what he means
I've seen POP come up a few times on my detector here in Houston. But never pulled over for it.
+Relentless_Automotive POP falses are actually quite common so that doesn't necessarily mean that POP was in use.
Excellent video & description of Pop! Both info and quality. Please consider using the word measured or indicated instead of clocked. Clocked is only appropriate when speed is timed (aircraft or Vascar).
Thanks. I've been wondering what a better word to use is. I appreciate it! :)
Vortex Radar your knowledge on this subject is amazing! I like your delivery speed too.
Police use the word “clocked”
@@nicholasdriver8253 the term is frequently incorrectly used by police. I am a ret traffic radar instructor. There is no time (stop watch) vs distance used with radar so nothing is “clocked.” Speed is measured or indicated by the radar.
you got a speeder go after them
9:45: my ears are bleeding
great job vortex
Great TRN video, Do a story video on your Miata. Great little car, I have one too...
Oh nice, which one? I sold my NC2 years ago, but I’ve done several videos on it if you search. :)
I live in WA state, and have a cheap Cobra XRX9370. The other night I got pulled over by a cop traveling in the opposite direction on a rural highway. My detector threw out a "P" alert a few seconds before he passed me in the other lane. I started slowing down, but then he whipped around and pulled me over for doing 50 in 40. Fortunately he let me off with a warning. So if he got me in POP mode, it sounds like he really didn't have proof of my true speed.
Also, while traveling home that night my detector detected 2 additional P signals at different times just as I was passing a car coming from the opposite direction, so it seems they're using it here in WA. It doesn't seem to be of much use with my detector since I don't get warned until the cop is pretty much on top of me...
POP mode false alerts are common with Cobras. I've seen them report normal shots as POP, K as Ka band, and so on. It'd be a good idea to upgrade to a better detector.
Hey Vortex, love your videos as they are always informative. I have just a quick question though. Im fairly new to all this but i was able to pick up a beltronics rx65 as a starter detector the other day. Are there any settings on that you would recommend me use or not use? for daily city driving should i just keep pop off?
+NxtPh3n0m There's not a ton of options on the RX65. You can keep it simple. If you watch a video I do showing how to set up a Redline or something, you'll see many of the same settings explained. USA Mode helps improve performance of the RX65. It's similar to band segmentation on the Redline. TSR, Highway mode, X on/off, etc., all that'll be similar to other detectors.
+Vortex ok cool, i'm looking forward to getting some use out of it here in the near future. I happened to see it on craigslist for $80 and i remembered you saying it was a decent one for the price so i just jumped on it. Hopefully all goes well . Once again i appreciate your help
Don’t most states and their statues require a standard of time and distance in order for the reading to be valid and be able to be used in court?
I just got hit with POP 33.4--- going southbound from Long Beach, CA -> San Diego . On the I-5 CHP was the one using
POP falses are very common. The CHP uses only non-POP capable radar guns.
That noise… Must be responsible for more than a few grumpy cops.
i love yav1 when it says the signal frequency .. sounds so bad ass .. wish escort had that option :)
Heres the problem, your POP radar and radar detector are very close together so it makes sense that they detect each other instantaneously!
huh? Radar waves travel at the speed of light so the distance between the units doesn't impact delay times in real life. Doing this makes it easier to see everything at the same time. ;)
+Vortex lol makes sense
Speed of light slows when it goes through glass..
+Jaison Mathai even if it was like a 10% decrease in speed its still damn near insantaneous
Yea but that 10% increase can mean the difference between me getting a ticket and not getting one.
i have a 9500ix i can tell you they never use pop they might as well have a laser or instant on now days. they do quick trigger alot i have ka band on and off for milessssss like who do they think they are fooling?
Pop has saved me a few times in NJ / etc. I'd say 5% of cops or less pop and then switch to Ka.
As far as false alerts. Pop alerts at EazyPass and other tolls. I'd say it's above 90% false alerts. Idk. I still keep it on.
While POP isn’t technically evidential, how many people are going to challenge a pop ticket and will the officer even be honest about the methodology of confirming speed? After all, police officers are expert witnesses and not to mention trained to be able to visually estimate speed. That estimation paired with a loose statement of “I estimated the vehicle speeding, and confirmed with radar” is going to beat you every time. And also the paragraph says “should” not, not SHALL not.
I mentioned POP as Power on Pulse because it's a low range radar. Power on pulse , which is a low pulse that some radar detectors can't pick up. Sorry for the confusion..
+GKAtascosa Is that where the term POP originated? I'm not familiar with the term.
Power..being low, on, turning it on, and pulse, being low transmitting. Not familiar to the term?
Yes.
I have the redline and I get Pop Alert usually by a signal traffic light. I'm wondering if the signal lights are emitting something that triggers the pop alert??
POP is from only one manufacture, it has not been discontinued, But has never been popular. It is used by very few departments, and only a few of the officers use the option. Traffic Officers which are savvy use it. Most officers never lock the speed, nor do they use audio, and they only get the tracking history on the target, when they are going to issue a ticket anyway. (not an issue) The point behind POP is to minimize advance warning, and while detectors have made advances to look for the POP its at a cost of false signals. This helps the officers and means more tickets, I recommend you do a reception test at long distances compare an constant on beam, an officer beam, then POP compare the warnings between all of them and see how POP actually gives less warning. (issue #2 is false, it has nothing to do with range, and is in fact a non issue) They have been switching diodes on and off for years. The range issue has to do with a strong signal required to get a reading and also the need for the target to be closer to the radar and in the beam to separate the signal from other targets. These are not false alerts, you know radar reads targets depending on the size and return of the signal. I like your reviews, just offering some input. The BEE is a great radar, very accurate. We call it the Killer Bee because it is bad news on Radar Detectors.
Thank you. Yeah POP is not discontinued and you're absolutely right that it provides less warning, especially if detector users have POP detection turned off. ;)
How prevalent have you found POP to be used in practice by LEO's?
Vortex POP is used but the point is that officers trigger the radar which also makes detection more difficult. Years ago MPH had a Radar called the Vindicator, the officers could pop the trigger and ck speeds, without setting of radar detectors. They still do it with the POP on the handheld MPH Speedgun's, and the BEE mover. Also Kustom Talon will not allow you to leave the beam on, forcing you to trigger the beam. Those that get a Ticket do get a signal, in the end when the officer gets tracking history, but they do not realize the advance warning they missed. This advance warning missed can also be from Radar units that are slowly turned on and off. The reason is that at long distances the signal is week and like you said produce a "minor Alert" something confused with a "Flase Alert". Regardless this is the frontier of radar detection and its not exclusive to POP. Radar Guy does a Video with several radar detectors and show how they respond to a radar triggered on and off for 5 seconds, at 5000 and 8000 feet. This video shows how normal radar turned on and off can be hard to detect and how some detectors can miss it all together. This is why I recommended such a video to you, but taking it to a higher level showcasing POP. The new technologies are for POP but are designed to compare a signal which is triggered and designed to give you better advance warning.
Henry Devilliers #2 issue is not false, it's a fact that increased target range while using POP ends up with some rather large errors in measurement, and while you are correct that they have been switching diodes on and off for years, that is how we know there is a transitional stage during the activation of the oscillator. The POP modes are within that transitional stage, the software on the gun *attempts* to compensate for that stage, but since it's a mathematical model being used, the accuracy is not up to standards for measurement for use in a court setting. My suggestion to you is if you are using POP mode to ticket people, then you should do as most LEO's do...lie in court and tell them nothing about using POP mode and lie about having a tracking history and all that. But since you are a cop, I am quite sure you are already familiar with the perjury thing...
Im a person who has submitted type acceptance to the FCC for microwave devices and had them approved. All mixing is in the turnstile, the signal which gives you your Doppler comes out of the turnstile. The errors which you refer to would have to happen in the mixing stage while the gunn is warming up, the fact is you can sweep the gunn at a very high rate faster than any warm up and the turnstile produces a stable output. Any failure in the device, gunn or diode or voltage results in a shutdown and leaves nothing for the radar to measure. I can talk facts and give you real issues or we can B.S. and point fingers. POP is a well designed technology, and serves a purpose that is to keep the radar gun from giving advance warning, when it is used on a speeder, it is designed to be triggered and get a history, maybe front and rear antennas etc.. because that is what officers do with a ALL radars. Because it is high tech does not mean it is filled with operational errors or made to be used in a deceptive manner or something is being hidden and officers using it in a manner less than required by the courts. The user manuals are up front POP works and does what its suppose to do. POP was developed because motor cops discovered the sweep rates on radar detectors were getting very slow, the old BEE could get a reading before some went off. That is where the catalyst for developing POP came from.
+Vortex Radar You mentioned that an issue with POP is lack of a tracking issue. Its not an issue, its a specific design to allow you to read a target and at the same time not set off radar detectors. This allows radar to stay blind to traffic, I you do not need tracking history of targets, if you are not going to issue a ticket. The radar operator In a millisecond can go from POP to full transmit, if he wants and needs tracking history, just hit the trigger for tracking history. set off all detectors!!! It does not matter at that point! That is not an issue, its an operational tactic, "one shot one kill"; Issue2 manual reads "separation of cars" your reading and adding the word "ERROR" and C.Y.A. those issues are from marketing B.S., I would be glad to provide a detailed explanation. Its simply has to so with the separation of cars, and a radar and how it bounces around from car to car, that is not "error" that is how a radar reads traffic. Each department should interpet its laws, and define how POP and tracking history should be used with this feature and product. That is not an error that is "legal use" being established.
Great video , thanks
Also, is turbo required to always be running to detect laser band?
Does having window tints affect radar detectors?
As long as it's non-metallic tint, you're fine.
Hi, love your videos, watched most of them. I have a question for you. When was the last time you got a ticket? Thank you very much.
Tra Vinh You know, oddly enough it's been ages. I don't actually drive much anymore in the first place, but I still enjoy playing with RD's. Go figure... :D
Vortex Radar a little update how you been haha any tickets?
Interesting, how can you determine an officer was using POP if you don't have a radar detector? And let's say you did, per se, would that be admissible in a court to say that your detector showed up as POP?
ProveLaw Simran I seriously doubt any radar detector reading would be admissible in court. They're not certified, calibrated devices by any means. As for determining it, you could always ask. POP is only available in some MPH brand radar guns, and you can ask the officer if he used it and how.
how far away does a police radar read in k or ka band?
About 1/2 mile from a K gun used within the car, a little further when it doesn’t go thru the windshield.
I would like to know if a car in front of me going the speed limit has been POP'd by a radar gun because I know I will be next followed up with a tracking history. Keep POP on!
Raiken333 That's assuming POP is actually in active use, which it's not, not to mention that you'll both get lots of false POP alerts and also reduce the performance of normal radar detection which is what you'll actually see in real life. POP detection is best kept off, but it's ultimately your call.
Vortex Why wouldn't a police officer use POP to sample how fast someone is driving before using instant ON to gather a credible tracking history? If someone is going the speed limit why would he give himself away to possible radar detector users behind the person going the speed limit? Your right in the fact that POP can not be used in court as evidence, but that is not what it was designed for. From what I've gathered is that POP is designed to remain hidden from radar detectors as to not give advance warning. Is it a fact that POP is not being used or are you assuming so?
Raiken333 There are issues with its accuracy when trying to turn on and off that quickly. Here's a technical explanation of that www.valentine1.com/pop/whatispop.asp and here's a demo so you can see the issue for yourself www.valentine1.com/pop/game.asp
Vortex I read the article and I played the POP game. The argument that keeps coming up is "POP is inaccurate" therefore it is not permissible evidence. POP IS NOT DESIGNED FOR PERMISSIBLE EVIDENCE!
Scenario: A blue car is driving the speed limit, and 1 mile behind that car is a speeding Red car with a radar detector. A police officer uses POP to sample the Blue car and the Red car's radar detector does NOT go off. The Blue car is going the speed limit therefore the police officer does NOT use INSTANT ON and does not give himself away to the Red car's Radar detector. Now the Red car comes along speeding with no advance warning and then BAM! the Police officer uses POP on the RED car and because he is speeding the police officer follows up with INSTANT ON for tracking history that can be used for permissible evidence in court.
Does this make sense? ^^
POP may not be accurate but it's close enough to decide whether to give himself away to radar detectors by using instant on as a follow up after using POP
7:40 If I heard this flying down the highway at night I think I would have to just stop driving altogether
I''m gonna purchase the Redline on Amazon. Will you please post the link so that the purchase will help you out bud. Thanks.
+Omar Guevara Thank you so much. I appreciate it! :) amzn.to/1zTi7r3
Are police radar gun antennas affected by pouring rain and tinted Glass windows? I live here in Florida and have had several cops pull me over for speeding in pouring rain using radar and all their radar antenna is have been behind aftermarket tinted window film
+Ryan Hollister Rain can reduce the effective range of a radar gun, but that's about it.
Great detail on videos but they so long
Why does it make that screeching noise on the radar ?
Hello Vortex, great videos. They really help understand the technology.I am fairly new to the scene. I purchased a Cobra SPX5500. I'm not to sure where this device stands quality wise and sensitivity. What is your opinion also is there a device you recommend? Of course I have pop off after learning so much :-)
+gabe112483 Unfortunately those older Cobras are garbage. Very poor performance, misleading marketing, lots of false alerts... Definitely not recommended. If you'd like a detector recommendation, see these videos: th-cam.com/play/PL_n_eDU1BrRSKS2EClW4ZM01Aug7XpXXn.html
Thank you sir. I appreciate the honesty. Yeah kinda what figured. Keep up the great videos!
Is it always making that noise
Love the MX5 What year is it you should do a video
+Nicola Cundiff It's a great car, isn't it? :) Mine's a 2011 and I love it. I've sorta done a video on it you can see here: th-cam.com/video/Pzw9aqUTlcc/w-d-xo.html
What I have seen is that radar detectors have a hard time with real POP Radar and also with radar that is ran in a fashion which you all "quick Trigger". I have seen TH-cam test by others, with a Bushnell Radar gun completely blind a V1 ten out of ten times when pop mode is turned "OFF", only by turning POP on do you seem to pick up the triggered radar and also the POP mode. If you place some distance down the road, rather than a detector in the throat of the antenna, you are going to get a much diminished alert. The idea that you can turn it OFF because POP is not used is a bad idea, because it seems that any short burst of radar and at range will be a challenge. I have done test, and in fact the POP was designed because officers discovered years ago that they could quick trigger and so M.P.D. designed to an automated form of this called POP. Kustom Signals also has a form of this trigger, but it is less automated. They also have a few other tricks on reserve and approved by the F.C.C..
+Henry Devilliers Yeah the Bushnell is fast, faster than any police radar gun, but it's not representative of what law enforcement units are like.
I can test out POP later at a distance and see if that changes things.
As for POP detection, I've found that enabling it on a RD compromises QT detection on other bands because the RD has to spend so much time looking for 33.8 POP. Turning off POP improves QT detection and so that would be preferred. :)
The development of the POP was from K band radars, which were QT. The Vindicator by CMI was super fast and could get a speed before detectors could sweep the K-band! Other units like the BEE 36, Decatur, were also doing it, in moving mode. The idea for a wider KA band and POP was to complicate the detection circuits and place radars all over the spectrum and hidden in the noise. Today you can get better detection range of ka units and the pop mode is more effective for the officer at longer ranges on the k band, because the detectors are de-tuned . I cant imagine the Radar detector manufactures only looking at 33.8, but I cant talk for what they do, or the logic. They should do something to speed up the circuits. The MPH Speedgun was superfast compared to any other handheld, my concern is that I can duplicate this all day long with a Talon, Decatur, and other handheld radars, and as long as I am doing QT you can not deny that the detectors were blind, as you demonstrated this and this can diminish advance warning.
hey there vortex, I got a couple of questions I'd love for you to answer... you seem extremely educated about all of this and I'm a greenhorn. I just ordered a Whistler CR90 for my very first radar detector for 40% off. It has this pop detection feature and I'm curious if I should have that setting on or not. I live in east Tennessee and I'm unsure about what type of radar detectors are used in this area and I need some tips on how to best tune my detector to keep me ticket free! Any advice would be much appreciated!
+dragonslayer1483 Yeah that's an inexpensive detector but it will really let you down performance-wise compared to what else is out there. It's sadly a very poor performer and I wouldn't recommend it. You save some $$ up front and get owned when you have to start dealing with the tickets, insurance costs, lawyer fees, and all that jazz. Is it worth it? I personally don't think so... Check out these tests with the CR85. (Same performance as the CR90, just without the GPS functionality.)
www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=44373
www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=38256
POP detection doesn't matter. Turn it off.
What part of TN are you in? If you're in the Appalachians especially, something like the Redline will be ideal. A Whistler will get destroyed there.
+Vortex ouch... that's a tough pill to swallow. although I live near lots of curvy roads most of my driving is on the highway, and luckily cops aren't hardly ever on the curvy roads. the reviews and ratings for the cr90 appear to be very positive, so hopefully it will work for me... thanks for your help
dragonslayer1483 Yeah that's just one example. Straightaways are easier to detect radar on since there's less to block the signals, that's true, but even in those situations you may very likely run into instant on where cops turn off their radar guns while they sit and wait. In those situations, your goal is to detect him when he's clocking cars up ahead of you. A more sensitive detector will give you a better chance of doing that while a less sensitive detector will sit quiet as people up ahead are being clocked.
The CR90 is not a bad detector. It can go beep like most any detector :D but its performance is pretty lacking these days. There's better options available if you're on a budget if you search around.
how did you get that V3 / mph..
arent those .. Class III
you can buy those?
that bee 3 or whatever is so freaking annoying lol props to anyone who still uses it. xD
Cop in central New Hampshire uses pop still
This is the best prank on people who use radar detectors :)
Thanks for the video!! Does the same apply to instant on radar in terms of issuing tickets when using instant on with 34.7 and 35.5 without a tracking history?
IO is different. With that you can turn it on and leave it on and get a tracking history. Here's a video that I haven't published yet about the differences: th-cam.com/video/WLOTCJUJoIk/w-d-xo.html
rdforum map claims Charlotte is using POP
Alot of 33.8 guns in North Carolina as well
What's your take?
There are inaccuracies in the RDFGS
I've noticed on my beltronics v8 that being directly in front or behind a another car with a detector had thrown a POP alert or at least it seems to be that way quite a bit. what could cause that or am I just crazy? lol
POP falses are pretty common. Best to turn it off. :)
Imagine is POP mode was actually accurate
pop mode alerts are false alerts with the detector I have right now anyway!?
hello vortex your videos are great and helpful how do you make both the v1 and the conceald display to flash i connected the conceald display and lost the the display on the v1??
+mottie levie I'm not sure how to do that normally. I control it from my phone so I'm not sure how it works otherwise.
could you imagine a cop stopping to check on him and they look in the car and see like 10 radar detectors and like 4 speed guns lol
That’s actually happened lol
@@VortexRadar now I need to know how all that went down
I like your videos, a lot of good information. But next time can you please turn down the radars and radar detectors? Holy cow those are loud.
Mrquartermile Yeah, sometimes they're louder on camera than they seem to me because the camera's closer to the guns and detectors... and it's different with every camera. Sorry about that. I don't always remember to check first.
hey man where you get that phone mount?
+Imbeastnot582 th-cam.com/video/fXeYWZtiuoc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks
Do you know if they use POP in Canada? Specifically British Columbia. I just got a radar detector and want to know if I even need to worry about POP here.
+Travis Martens Never heard of it there
Vortex Radar perfect thanks for the info
Sorry to comment on such an old video, but say you have X on still, but pop off. If you turn X off, and pop on, will the unit not having to scan X equal out to its added scanning of POP? roughly. not asking for scientific exact.
X band is an extremely small amount of bandwidth to scanning so turning it off doesn't really impact performance. POP makes a big difference since a detector has to be so hyper aware to scan and search for POP.
The radar detector still scans x band whether it is on or off. At least with the V1 anyways, so no performance difference. Per V1 technician.
lol first thing i thought, this dude's gonna operate all this while driving??? hahaha
Is MRCD/ MRCT different from POP?
Completely different. POP is a very quick burst of traditional radar used by traditional radar guns. MultaRadar is one type of photo radar that uses different techniques to attempt to defeat radar detectors, discussed in this video: th-cam.com/video/UkZME9-NvL8/w-d-xo.html
8:05 DAMN! That RedLine thing is so damn annoying... *>:/*
So far which one is the best radar detecter?
+Odalis Rodriguez th-cam.com/video/075tzkUNTuk/w-d-xo.html
So how do you know/prove if they used POP or not? Like if you got a ticket and want to contest that they used POP and issued a ticket based on that rather than a recorded one?
philo lee I'd also like to know.
You were on the clock while filming this right?....LOL. just play'n . (get paid..)
+Dustin Nichols haha I'm not a cop ;)
what is TSR? yours is off
Enrique Valiente Traffic Sensor Rejection. It's a filter that's designed to filter out traffic sensors along the highway that blast short bursts of radar. TSR basically just filters out any brief K band signals below a predefined length.
well they can write tickets, but if you take it to court... yeah.. Why I have a fuzz buster, I'm not a big speeder ill go with traffic despite the speed limit. And around the end of the month when they need to meet their quotas they will ticket anyone who even thinks about speeding so I have it (and Dashcam with GPS) to cover my ass. If you have one to be going racing *you stoopid*. half the cops I go by are either their as a scare tactic or using instant on
OMG if i were driving and saw this and my 360 max was going off>>>>> brakes on>>>
Turn pop off. Got it. What about TSR.
+Cruz Nunez th-cam.com/video/3YhkE8tM0X4/w-d-xo.html ;)
4:33 an old Audi A6/Allroad Passed your car
Wow I'm impressed you recognized it! :)
how's pop in ca
Not used. It's only on 33.8 guns and they use 34.7 in CA. Turn POP off on your RD.
I'll take a Dr. Pepper.
lol i still have WAZE for instant on
Still-image for the whole video??????
Pretty rude, you're on the side of the road shooting these guys, and YOU'RE IN A MIATA!!! HAHHA
Things you'd never expect from a hairdresser. :D
a hairdresser in an unmarked Miata, using a hair dryer to check the speed of traffic - great stealth ! I'd never pick it ;)
lol
u a cop?
+King Aka heh nope. I'm a radar detector enthusiast.
what is He a ex-cop? hoed He get Radar Guns?
eBay
Heh. Pop shot
In Florida pop is illegal
What sorts of funny behavior have you seen when messing around with your radar guns for testing purposes on public roads from people who, presumably, have detectors of their own?
gmofftarki You know, surprisingly, not many people run radar detectors! It's rare that I see anyone slam on their brakes or anything, and I'm constantly looking for RD's in people windshields and grills. I try to do things very minimally to help avoid people needing to change their shorts. ;)
Vortex
That's what I figured (I don't have a detector myself, though I'm considering grabbing one when I get a newer vehicle), but I was surprised at how much effort seems to be spent on trying to foil the things. Similarly, from watching other videos, I can't even imagine how much money is spent developing anti-jamming tech and whatnot for the laser guns, when jamming is going to be an even more niche pursuit.
Is it just hype for the sake of selling new radar guns to police agencies every year? I can't imagine the difference in profits justifies the expense of replacement.
gmofftarki Yeah, I don't think so either. What I've found that officers look for is things like compact size, affordability (with slashing budgets), batteries they can replace/charge easily, and so on. The antijamming stuff is a bit of a niche thing like you said.
Vortex
As a complete aside, have you had the chance to test how the android-integrated detectors you have work with android auto cars and/or head-units (Pioneer AVIC-8100NEX, for example, and I think the Sonata? has it built in). I'd be interested in seeing whether you can get the display through the big screen/car audio. Another thing I'd be curious about is whether it can pop up on the big screen using default nav rather than google maps, but that's perhaps asking a bit much.
I haven't, no. I've seen some people using them to run Waze, Escort Live, or YaV1 though so it can work. :)
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No such word as anyways it's ANYWAY
Good to know. I'm curious so I looked it up and apparently it's simply the informal version of anyway but anyway is indeed the proper form. Thanks for letting me know. :) www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anyways
All his radar detectors go off...car battery dies.
haha you kid, but I started carrying a portable jump start battery pack in my car after my car battery kept dying from powering cameras and equipment while shooting videos. :D