11:50-13:00 ("Starting" by stealing an existing successful framework) is one of the most valuable and timely pieces of advice that I've ever received. Thank you as always, Chase.
I know your edgelord demeanor is just your ENTP side, but I can tell your roasting INTJs so much is because you like us, lol. But I just want you to know that you talking about how INTJs are able to master anything has given me a sense of confidence that I haven't had in years. Seeing you break down how we tend to learn through research opened my eyes. Finding out thst the way I tend to learn is not only valid, but the reason why we are able to be seemingly good at everything we do has really comforted me. All my life, I wondered if the way I learned and practiced was incorrect since it didn't mirror typical study patterns. It was especially rough as a kid. Your INTJ videos really helped me learn to just let my brain do what it does and stop trying to fight it so much in an effort to fit some standard someone else set. Thanks.
im an intj that had been thru 2 years of learning false information and self typing at the internet, from 16p to pdb to youtube mbtis, until this video, i was laughing thru the whole video, loved the vid, feels unreal to be happy being critisized accurately, i never knew i was only improving when im having humilty and humble down to accept being bad and actually researching practising and experimenting, such a blind spot.
I always feel like I have to invent something new to succeed, only to find that someone is already doing something like I had in mind but I immediately see all the ways that they could be doing it better. Only problem is I struggle with wanting to be authentic and I feel like a bit of a fraud for just improving on other people's efforts.
Originally I was typed as an ISTJ on your website, then I thought I was a INFJ after doing some digging, now I'm starting to think I might be an INTJ. I definitely feel the SE inferior and the NE nemesis a lot. I'm starting to understand what this type is actually like and how relatable it is. Being pragmatic is what makes me think I couldn't be INFJ because they're Affiliative. I'm very artistic, and love anything to do with cinematography, photography, audio engineering and music producing. I like to write stories, and I love coming up with new concepts or ideas that make people think about life and what it actually means. Obsessed with human nature and psychology, which is part of the reason I'm on this channel in the first place. I have always struggled with relationships whether it be friends or romantic relationships. I've always been of the mindset that if I do something long enough, no matter what it is, I can eventually be good at it, and once I'm a pro at it, I begin to redefine it by adding new ideas on top of already existing ones to make them better. The hard part is learning because you just want to jump to the part where you know it all already and can just start coming up with new ideas based on what you've learned.
I will have to watch this another few times to get all the information. Thank you for your insights and advices. I can see you understand the soul of an INTJ better than most do themselves and that is fascinating. Spot on to say we are treasure hunters… real hunter gatherers who want to bring their treasure back to share with the pack. I see my unconscious engage when I plan a business. I see my subconscious engage when I do a stand up comedy routine. But you are right - I didn’t do the work yet. And I didn’t study your material in depth yet to understand other humans yet. And I didn’t really accomplish anything yet although I’m old, lol. But I think if I fixed those things then I could see what you are talking about the superego. But that does look rather unpleasant. If our natural purpose in life is gathering and sharing our treasure… then to be put in a position that requires the application of Justice would be unpleasant and hopefully unusual.
This reminds me of Bryan Johnson trying to develop the perfect system for health and life expectancy. Not sure if he's an INTJ or INTP, but he sure seems like an intj
Around minute 55…. I have previously come to the conclusion that I have been drawn to more aloof people to have friendships with because somewhere I expect to be tossed off and it has never failed me. I’ve been unsure how to alter this. But I’ve been in a nasty Ni-Fi loop for way too long and did not realize it until this video. Thank you for that.
Thanks for all these videos over the many years. I’ve recently wondered how many meditations can even kick you out of your ego. And for all the pragmatics did they just drug us all so we would conform to their ways?
I know an INTJ woman who would multiple times a day go through who their partner was following on social media and stalk random accounts of girls he was friends with/following.
Based on this investment system to deal with relationships, what would be the fundamentals to best evaluate the ROI someone is giving basead on the treasure I shared? And how to evaluate when to increase, decrease or take a person share as loss?
CS. Joseph, I’ve question for you. During the 16 years of my career, I have worked closely with 2 high managerial level in 2 different companies and both of these senior directors have a common behavior in one thing is that they read books or attend training course and trying to apply with they read or trained on us 😅 and most of the colleagues are already noticed this and one of them sometimes I noticed that if in a meeting and I suggested an idea, phrase or word he will use it in the same meeting and show that he own it and produce it. I think they’re within finishers types but I cannot spot it. What do you think about their type?
Can you try typing fousey tube. I find it so hard to type him and it would be really awesome if you could. Also why haven’t you typed Theo Von yet?? He seems like a interesting fellow
I used to repeatedly watch this Lecture back when I believed I was an INTJ. Still fascinating. But wouldn't you think that ISTPs are the Most Independent Type? Or maybe INTJ's are :)
No, he’s quite obviously an Si-Ne user. He’s just destructive and for nearly no reason UD|(UF). It’s likely that he’s more of an NT since he’s abstract (as you can see with his constant metaphors and thinking in and through them while not going into details or specifics necessarily or primarily), pragmatic (not only because he doesn’t really strike as an affiliative person but also since he’s interested in independently solving (medical) problems and understand the human body using everything that works while not considering that these methods could be immoral (displayed several times throughout the series), and systematic which is apparent but for the sake of mentioning a reason, he’s systematic in his approaches to people (whatever he’s created to analyze and observe them) as well as finding the solution of problems instead of climbing the hierarchy or get something out of it. However, he’s been shown to be sometimes interested in motives of other people. That I can appreciate but you can clearly see that he’s not primarily interest-based (so maybe in his sub- or unconscious). Furthermore, the hardest thing to brake down is his rather inconsistent expression style. As a non-ambitious doctor he seems rather informative. He usually takes no interest in making decisions necessarily as we can see when Foreman had the command over House and House was more of a consultant taking no problem in that (ofc while making fun of everybody else, by the way that’s high Ne behavior but that was already obvious given that he’s not Se-Ni). Wilson himself said that House has the “Rubiks Cube complex”. He’s more interested in solving a problem and nothing more. That’s tripple systematic behavior. Nothing we would see with XNTJs. Of course I wouldn’t give a crap what people say within a series about certain characters especially given that Wilson does seem to be in at least one area of his life (dating) extremely bad at understanding people. However, he knows House for a long time and his description seems consistent with House’s behavior, so. Now, he seems more responding than initiating but that’s pretty inconsistent. He sometimes (!) initiates social contact but seems to prefer to be responding, just more often. Also it seems that he’s in his subconscious when being direct and initiating social contact. He also seems highly comfortable doing a lot in his head, abstracting the whole medical process (Si-Ne) and seems to take no pressure not doing things while preferring to take his time to solve problems, meaning he’s likely to be outcome (also systematic since he’s procedural and automated it and responding since he rarely or only when something’s too interesting initiates social contact, meaning we can see a preference for responding as well as see that he doesn’t like stationary duty or whatever this is actually called to take in random patients as well as it would align with gluttony (being only interested in things he’s actually interested in: clearly UF) since he avoids that as much as possible). All in all, he seems to be a crazy INTP. Edit: forgot to mention that all of this and the character himself leaved the impression that this aligns with his cognitive origin, so. It’s even more likely that he must be an INTP (however inconsistent at times). 2nd edit: Wrote a bit more detailed and corrected several grammatical and so on mistakes
Of course a good INTJ TV series character would be one in the following (non-complete) exemplary array: [Foreman (from Dr. House), Suzune Horikita (from Classroom of the Elite), Petyr Bealish (from Game of Thrones), Andrew Wiggin (from Ender’s Game; well, not a series but still a fictional INTJ), Alex Mahone (from Prison Break), Seto Kaiba (from Yu-Gi-Oh!), Shadow The Hedgehod (from nearly any Sonic Series, Game, etc. with accurate depiction of his character), Wednesday Adams (from Wednesday), Chef Julian Slowik (from The Menu; also a Movie), …]
@@ScaryMango6755 np man. any time. I as a intp ud|sf enjoy sharing knowledge and yeah, I recently rewatched the series and got her typed. it seems to fit especially given the dynamic between kiyotaka and her: intp - intj. kiyotaka is ud so he's also in his shadow some of the times. now, I haven't verified it yet but I think ryuuen aka dragon boy is an estp and arisu sakayanagi is an entj by the way
You want me to read what OTHER people have written? And then do the same as everyone who has read those books? How am I supposed to get superior/unique results doing the same thing as everyone else? At least, that's the internal dialogue I'm up against.
that seems an inherently arrogant statement to me because it suggests a kinda feeling of being too good to go down the path that is necessary for success (or practice for that matter). don't get me wrong, I'm not attacking you. I'm telling you what I perceive and think about your statement. on a side note: seems very se-te (not in that order) to me the uniqueness usually comes from your own ideas. you will certainly entertain conventional ideas but the further you go down the path of intense practice and thinking the more likely it is to get an intuitive grasp of something which will lead to unique ideas. exceptional students aren't doing anything unique to get unique insights or perspectives. besides, uniqueness is overrated. you usually achieve that through very hard and conventional practice. it's not doing anything unique, it's what comes from your deepest self (don't take this spiritually. I think spiritualism is hokum). if you're an abstract type (at least in your subconscious), you will eventually have unique insights
@sonicmaths8285 Yes, you're absolutely right. What I wrote is one force in my mind, which I have to argue with all the time. But I've also realised that genius is mostly irrelevant when it comes to success. It's more about narrative, exposure and contacts. And all of those are INTJ Achilles heel. So I focus on what I'm good at. Selling my mastery, designing for my own use and enjoying my own company.
@@ChristieNel Some Jung for you to maybe help. You want to create unique results? Nothing is truly owned by you, it was always inherited. The root of 'invent' is 'to find'. I think mastery comes for INTJ by accepting that you don't exist in a vacuum but are molded by the world around you. You will see what others do and have unique thoughts and feelings, you will read the books others have read and feel differently, because you are unique and unlike anyone else in the world
@matthewsalvetti7794 That's very educational, love it. However, it is worth considering that once you've absorbed information, it becomes a rut for your mind and it's much more difficult to produce an alternative thought. But it can also unlock possibilities riding on top of that information that you couldn't have imagined previously.
@@ChristieNel I think you are right. That is the risk/reward of being "impressed upon" by belief. You have to trust yourself that if you were misled you can find your way back. Thanks for the counterpoint
I think Intj more because they're triple pragmatic, literally they can and want to do their own way.. and because istp have their Fe aspirational function assisting their enfj transition, plus estj shadow, they can become more dependent and affiliative in a community.
11:50-13:00 ("Starting" by stealing an existing successful framework) is one of the most valuable and timely pieces of advice that I've ever received. Thank you as always, Chase.
Now, don't get paranoid, guys. I'm researching you, not spying.
😂😂😂 ok and same
I'm ISFP and get moments of paranoia. Is paranoia limited to INTJs?
@@britjj5126 No, Ne nemesis and critic. Which means all XXNJs
I know your edgelord demeanor is just your ENTP side, but I can tell your roasting INTJs so much is because you like us, lol. But I just want you to know that you talking about how INTJs are able to master anything has given me a sense of confidence that I haven't had in years.
Seeing you break down how we tend to learn through research opened my eyes. Finding out thst the way I tend to learn is not only valid, but the reason why we are able to be seemingly good at everything we do has really comforted me. All my life, I wondered if the way I learned and practiced was incorrect since it didn't mirror typical study patterns. It was especially rough as a kid. Your INTJ videos really helped me learn to just let my brain do what it does and stop trying to fight it so much in an effort to fit some standard someone else set. Thanks.
You are most welcome
The term skill issue is surprisingly therapeutic; It helps me not take things personally when things get hard. 💪🏻
im an intj that had been thru 2 years of learning false information and self typing at the internet, from 16p to pdb to youtube mbtis, until this video, i was laughing thru the whole video, loved the vid, feels unreal to be happy being critisized accurately, i never knew i was only improving when im having humilty and humble down to accept being bad and actually researching practising and experimenting, such a blind spot.
I always feel like I have to invent something new to succeed, only to find that someone is already doing something like I had in mind but I immediately see all the ways that they could be doing it better. Only problem is I struggle with wanting to be authentic and I feel like a bit of a fraud for just improving on other people's efforts.
This is exactly my case as well. May I know what you do to deal with it? I'm not sure what to do myself.
Hope you and your family are doing well chase god bless you
Originally I was typed as an ISTJ on your website, then I thought I was a INFJ after doing some digging, now I'm starting to think I might be an INTJ. I definitely feel the SE inferior and the NE nemesis a lot. I'm starting to understand what this type is actually like and how relatable it is. Being pragmatic is what makes me think I couldn't be INFJ because they're Affiliative. I'm very artistic, and love anything to do with cinematography, photography, audio engineering and music producing. I like to write stories, and I love coming up with new concepts or ideas that make people think about life and what it actually means. Obsessed with human nature and psychology, which is part of the reason I'm on this channel in the first place. I have always struggled with relationships whether it be friends or romantic relationships. I've always been of the mindset that if I do something long enough, no matter what it is, I can eventually be good at it, and once I'm a pro at it, I begin to redefine it by adding new ideas on top of already existing ones to make them better. The hard part is learning because you just want to jump to the part where you know it all already and can just start coming up with new ideas based on what you've learned.
really needed to hear this today
I will have to watch this another few times to get all the information. Thank you for your insights and advices. I can see you understand the soul of an INTJ better than most do themselves and that is fascinating. Spot on to say we are treasure hunters… real hunter gatherers who want to bring their treasure back to share with the pack. I see my unconscious engage when I plan a business. I see my subconscious engage when I do a stand up comedy routine. But you are right - I didn’t do the work yet. And I didn’t study your material in depth yet to understand other humans yet. And I didn’t really accomplish anything yet although I’m old, lol. But I think if I fixed those things then I could see what you are talking about the superego. But that does look rather unpleasant. If our natural purpose in life is gathering and sharing our treasure… then to be put in a position that requires the application of Justice would be unpleasant and hopefully unusual.
Thanks Chase! God bless you!
@@jehulela ma boi
@princefreddo5044 😆😆
This reminds me of Bryan Johnson trying to develop the perfect system for health and life expectancy. Not sure if he's an INTJ or INTP, but he sure seems like an intj
Intps are consistently try to developing the perfect system but only in their head.
@@honor9lite1337 not necessarily but definitely primarily
Thanks Chase, God bless
Around minute 55….
I have previously come to the conclusion that I have been drawn to more aloof people to have friendships with because somewhere I expect to be tossed off and it has never failed me. I’ve been unsure how to alter this. But I’ve been in a nasty Ni-Fi loop for way too long and did not realize it until this video. Thank you for that.
My dads a farmer and I love the analogies lol
INTJ here, working my way to become the best me. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for all these videos over the many years.
I’ve recently wondered how many meditations can even kick you out of your ego. And for all the pragmatics did they just drug us all so we would conform to their ways?
I need an INTP vid
Needy.
I love intps so much you guys are dope
I know an INTJ woman who would multiple times a day go through who their partner was following on social media and stalk random accounts of girls he was friends with/following.
I would argue this is not behaviour limited to INTJ. Any wife who is suspicious/insecure/jealous can resort to this behaviour.
@ of course but the most intense stalking behaviour I have observed in my time has been perpetrated by Se inferior types.
I feel called out. But this is good
BATMAN
Skill issue? That is indeed a big thing for people. Only delusional people dismiss the importance of skills.
WELCOME TO FI CHILD
@@Yaboi-yl6rr why fi child? skills is se
@ it’s the belief that one is too good to practice.
@@Yaboi-yl6rryea
@@Yaboi-yl6rr I see
Based on this investment system to deal with relationships, what would be the fundamentals to best evaluate the ROI someone is giving basead on the treasure I shared? And how to evaluate when to increase, decrease or take a person share as loss?
did someone say INTJ?
No
20:41 Investments nowadays are looking like risky gambles. 😂
Im sorry this is byfar my fav video ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ intj female here 😊
CS. Joseph, I’ve question for you. During the 16 years of my career, I have worked closely with 2 high managerial level in 2 different companies and both of these senior directors have a common behavior in one thing is that they read books or attend training course and trying to apply with they read or trained on us 😅 and most of the colleagues are already noticed this and one of them sometimes I noticed that if in a meeting and I suggested an idea, phrase or word he will use it in the same meeting and show that he own it and produce it. I think they’re within finishers types but I cannot spot it. What do you think about their type?
Hi Chase. You think that J.D. Vance is a UDSF INTJ?
That wouldn't surprise me.
he's UD UF if INTJ
he seems ISFJ to me
He is ESFP
Can you try typing fousey tube. I find it so hard to type him and it would be really awesome if you could. Also why haven’t you typed Theo Von yet?? He seems like a interesting fellow
ENFP maybe?
I used to repeatedly watch this Lecture back when I believed I was an INTJ.
Still fascinating. But wouldn't you think that ISTPs are the Most Independent Type? Or maybe INTJ's are :)
I just heard skill issue yesterday from an intj lol
Hey Is Gregory House an Intj? what are some Intj Characters in Tv series?
No, he’s quite obviously an Si-Ne user. He’s just destructive and for nearly no reason UD|(UF). It’s likely that he’s more of an NT since he’s abstract (as you can see with his constant metaphors and thinking in and through them while not going into details or specifics necessarily or primarily), pragmatic (not only because he doesn’t really strike as an affiliative person but also since he’s interested in independently solving (medical) problems and understand the human body using everything that works while not considering that these methods could be immoral (displayed several times throughout the series), and systematic which is apparent but for the sake of mentioning a reason, he’s systematic in his approaches to people (whatever he’s created to analyze and observe them) as well as finding the solution of problems instead of climbing the hierarchy or get something out of it. However, he’s been shown to be sometimes interested in motives of other people. That I can appreciate but you can clearly see that he’s not primarily interest-based (so maybe in his sub- or unconscious).
Furthermore, the hardest thing to brake down is his rather inconsistent expression style. As a non-ambitious doctor he seems rather informative. He usually takes no interest in making decisions necessarily as we can see when Foreman had the command over House and House was more of a consultant taking no problem in that (ofc while making fun of everybody else, by the way that’s high Ne behavior but that was already obvious given that he’s not Se-Ni). Wilson himself said that House has the “Rubiks Cube complex”. He’s more interested in solving a problem and nothing more. That’s tripple systematic behavior. Nothing we would see with XNTJs. Of course I wouldn’t give a crap what people say within a series about certain characters especially given that Wilson does seem to be in at least one area of his life (dating) extremely bad at understanding people. However, he knows House for a long time and his description seems consistent with House’s behavior, so.
Now, he seems more responding than initiating but that’s pretty inconsistent. He sometimes (!) initiates social contact but seems to prefer to be responding, just more often. Also it seems that he’s in his subconscious when being direct and initiating social contact. He also seems highly comfortable doing a lot in his head, abstracting the whole medical process (Si-Ne) and seems to take no pressure not doing things while preferring to take his time to solve problems, meaning he’s likely to be outcome (also systematic since he’s procedural and automated it and responding since he rarely or only when something’s too interesting initiates social contact, meaning we can see a preference for responding as well as see that he doesn’t like stationary duty or whatever this is actually called to take in random patients as well as it would align with gluttony (being only interested in things he’s actually interested in: clearly UF) since he avoids that as much as possible).
All in all, he seems to be a crazy INTP.
Edit: forgot to mention that all of this and the character himself leaved the impression that this aligns with his cognitive origin, so. It’s even more likely that he must be an INTP (however inconsistent at times).
2nd edit: Wrote a bit more detailed and corrected several grammatical and so on mistakes
Of course a good INTJ TV series character would be one in the following (non-complete) exemplary array:
[Foreman (from Dr. House), Suzune Horikita (from Classroom of the Elite), Petyr Bealish (from Game of Thrones), Andrew Wiggin (from Ender’s Game; well, not a series but still a fictional INTJ), Alex Mahone (from Prison Break), Seto Kaiba (from Yu-Gi-Oh!), Shadow The Hedgehod (from nearly any Sonic Series, Game, etc. with accurate depiction of his character), Wednesday Adams (from Wednesday), Chef Julian Slowik (from The Menu; also a Movie), …]
He's an ENTP
@@sonicmaths8285 Wow thanks for the list and explanation! I never thought Horikita was an Intj, it fits ig
@@ScaryMango6755 np man. any time. I as a intp ud|sf enjoy sharing knowledge and yeah, I recently rewatched the series and got her typed. it seems to fit especially given the dynamic between kiyotaka and her: intp - intj. kiyotaka is ud so he's also in his shadow some of the times. now, I haven't verified it yet but I think ryuuen aka dragon boy is an estp and arisu sakayanagi is an entj by the way
Brilliant
Gold!
Like who says they have skill issues
ROI got it
Why is he so mean ti us ....lol
how do you know I don't read o_o
The information sounds factual, but your tone sounds personal. What intj hurt you?
I think he mentioned it sometimes but he's usually angry with other types as well. either he met many bad ppl or he's just like that
@sonicmaths8285 i can appreciate his passion
@@Lovedbyhim4ever25 I agree
I want Chase to do a “the XXXX That Hurt Me” series where he details how every type hurt him
Sharp
You want me to read what OTHER people have written? And then do the same as everyone who has read those books? How am I supposed to get superior/unique results doing the same thing as everyone else? At least, that's the internal dialogue I'm up against.
that seems an inherently arrogant statement to me because it suggests a kinda feeling of being too good to go down the path that is necessary for success (or practice for that matter). don't get me wrong, I'm not attacking you. I'm telling you what I perceive and think about your statement. on a side note: seems very se-te (not in that order) to me
the uniqueness usually comes from your own ideas. you will certainly entertain conventional ideas but the further you go down the path of intense practice and thinking the more likely it is to get an intuitive grasp of something which will lead to unique ideas. exceptional students aren't doing anything unique to get unique insights or perspectives.
besides, uniqueness is overrated. you usually achieve that through very hard and conventional practice. it's not doing anything unique, it's what comes from your deepest self (don't take this spiritually. I think spiritualism is hokum). if you're an abstract type (at least in your subconscious), you will eventually have unique insights
@sonicmaths8285 Yes, you're absolutely right. What I wrote is one force in my mind, which I have to argue with all the time. But I've also realised that genius is mostly irrelevant when it comes to success. It's more about narrative, exposure and contacts. And all of those are INTJ Achilles heel. So I focus on what I'm good at. Selling my mastery, designing for my own use and enjoying my own company.
@@ChristieNel Some Jung for you to maybe help. You want to create unique results? Nothing is truly owned by you, it was always inherited. The root of 'invent' is 'to find'. I think mastery comes for INTJ by accepting that you don't exist in a vacuum but are molded by the world around you. You will see what others do and have unique thoughts and feelings, you will read the books others have read and feel differently, because you are unique and unlike anyone else in the world
@matthewsalvetti7794 That's very educational, love it. However, it is worth considering that once you've absorbed information, it becomes a rut for your mind and it's much more difficult to produce an alternative thought. But it can also unlock possibilities riding on top of that information that you couldn't have imagined previously.
@@ChristieNel I think you are right. That is the risk/reward of being "impressed upon" by belief. You have to trust yourself that if you were misled you can find your way back. Thanks for the counterpoint
Are ISTP’s more independent than INTJ’s? INTJ’s need more attention. ISTP’s are pretty much as independent as you can get.
I think Intj more because they're triple pragmatic, literally they can and want to do their own way..
and because istp have their Fe aspirational function assisting their enfj transition, plus estj shadow, they can become more dependent and affiliative in a community.
@@honor9lite1337 neat argumentation. Was going to comment the same until I saw that you already did that
Mate the out of house argument is so bad.