M4A1 2008 USMC/NAVY & Brownells 16" SOCOM Barrel Discussion!
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- Forgot to mention in the video that the Brownells 16" SOCOM barrel front sight base is on straight! It's not "F" marked but it is at an "F" marked dimension of 1.98" and correct for a flat top!
You are very wise to decide what you want to build FIRST. I just completed an M4A1 build and have the "rifle" complete. Take the "rifle" in your drawings, and that is what I have.
I also have a Colt carry handle, which was from another build, but I am not using it on this rifle. Yet. I am now considering what to "finish" it with in terms of accessories.
I also used the Midwest Industries quad rail. Works great. Looks great. I used a Bushmaster 14.5" chrome lined, gov't profile barrel. I didn't want to go the tax/registration/SBR route, so I used an extended A2 birdcage, pinned and welded. To my eye, the extended flash hider is much less obvious than the extra barrel length of the 16" barrel. I have several M16/AR15 rifles in 20" and 24" barrel lengths. I'm not going to fret the velocity difference between 14.5" and 16". I'll just use a 20" rifle if that is a concern.
You do what you prefer.
I will likely go with a Matech rear BUIS. They seem like great sights and are reasonably priced (I see them for around $80-85). Have fun with it, Pete!
All I can say is the M16A2 clone was so much easier.
Thanks Gary! The A2 Retro stuff is much easier! I thought about an "exact" SOPMOD clone but the M4A1 carbine rifle is all Colt and correct parts are not easy to come by in today's environment. To do everything exact minus full auto would be out of reach for what I'm willing to spend. Thanks again for watching and commenting!
Very informative. Thanks Chief.
Looks like we're cousins you being Electronics! I was an AD for my first 5 years after joining in "74". Got out for a while and then went back in as an AT (6673) for another 16+ years! Fleet Reserve in "97". Thanks for watching Chief!
This video was like going to a class! Awesome, exact content I like.
Thanks! I chose this variant to keep it simple and minimize the checking account damage! Lol!
@@peteregger7928looking forward to see how much if any can’t in the FSB on the Brownells barrel.
@@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8 I failed to show it but I did mention it in the video description section. It was dead on straight!
They do sell cheaper 4 prong flash hiders out there. I have 2 pc. Midwest drop in quad rails are nice, light, and sturdy. Rock River makes a nice side sling swivel, thinh I paid $23 a couple years ago. Wonder who makes that barrel? Always looking forward to completion. Your Petemod videos are awesome!
@@Allenmar73 Not sure who makes the SOCOM for Brownells? They say it's a military contractor. If it was Colt or FN I'm sure they would be charging more for it so I doubt it's those two and they would be advertising that. Thanks Allen!
4:58 SOPMOD is remembered long after price is forgotten.
True! It's difficult in today's market to find the genuine SOPMOD stuff in addition to the price as it's almost Colt exclusively other than optics.
@@peteregger7928 it coin collecting, it can take decades, and untold dollars, to assemble a complete set.
Whether it be a ‘type set’ or a ‘year and mint’ set.
I’ve never tried it, but I’m told it can be extremely rewarding.
@@ordinaryman1904 My grandfather gave me a brand new silver dollar when I was 8 years old so that was 60 years ago! Didn't know any better as a kid and spent it! You could get a lot of stuff for a dollar back then!
Man, sometimes I wonder if you're not my long lost uncle or something. You've got a channel full of guns and dirtbikes. Literally two of my favorite things.
Thanks! I never get tired of either one of them!
KAK makes a 4 prong flash hider for $40
Looks pretty close to the SF at a glance 😅
Thanks! I figured there were cheaper alternatives but I decided that there were too many different variants on the SOPMOD versions so I quit looking. Seems almost endless especially where Special Forces is concerned. I'll take a look at the KAK as I may change my mind! Thanks again!
Took a look at the KAK. It's not bad!
FYI, Pete
I just got a side mount sling adapter from TNTE Sales. One of the accessories I needed for my M4A1 build. It is CAGE coded 83005 (JG Wilson Corp). Not a Colt, but it is GI and is identical in construction and design to the Colt.
$52 incl. tax and shipping.
Thanks very much for that intel! I'll take a look and probably get a couple! More often than not very hard to find! Most Colt provided parts aren't made by Colt anymore anyway. They went to the dark side a long time ago!
@@peteregger7928 I just ordered one last week and got it yesterday. I installed it last night. Works and looks great. But for the CAGE code, it's identical to Colt's.
As I understand, JG Wilson is one of 4 manufacturers who make this part for the M4A1.
Love your vids. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and commenting Mike!
Will The Pete Mod Optic Be a Trijicon ACOG With Bullet Drop Compensation 😀 This Will Be a Pretty Cool Build Pete I Want To Build One But Use a 20” Rifle Buffer Tube and Stock With The Trapdoor 😀 I Think Midwest Makes a Nice Quad Rail 😊👍🏼
Thanks Chris! I'm thinking an ACOG! Don't presently have one.
Pete, look at midway usa’s ar stoner drop in quad rails. Very good quality, at a very good price. They seem to be the same ones used on some of armsunlimited resent colt offerings as well. Not sure who actually makes them. Just another option to consider.
Okay! Thanks! I'll take a look!
Just checked it out! Doesn't look too bad! It doesn't have the top rail bridge tab like the Midwest Industries so in that area looks more like an actual RAS. The ventilation holes are square though so that's different. Thanks for the Intel!
I have one, I also have 3 Ras. Even for a future build, I recommend. I saw them on sale for 49$ during 4th of July.
I get what you’re saying though.
Hey Pete, if you have time go onto armsunlimited and look at their current 10.3 colt options with quad rail’s. Using their pictures, compare the quad rails to the one I mentioned on midway USA… should look pretty familiar, plus give you a good idea of how they look mounted. I sort of like the square vent holes personally. Have a good day.
@@nowhere1618 Thanks again! I've purchased a few things from Arms Unlimited. They're right down the road in Henderson from North Las Vegas.
fostech echo ar2 trigger
Thanks! Open to all options at this point!
@@peteregger7928 The fostech binary trigger will work with this aluminum bolt carrier. Use an H3 buffer. www.gorillamachining.com/TIGER-ROCK-INC-223556-Polished-Aluminum-Lightweight-Competition-Bolt-Carrier-Group--GOLD_p_1092.html
also an aero precision adjustable gas block
@@Stratinvllc If they made one that is part of the A2 FSB I might give one a try?
Brass marks in barrel from test fire 👍
Could be? I wish I would have done some recording before I cleaned it. It did not look like it was from test firing but who knows? Didn't see any evidence in the barrel extension lugs or chamber from being fired. It was thick, smeared and galled all over the place. It did look like brass though.
"Pete mod" 💪
Ha! Ha! Thanks Malcolm!
@@peteregger7928 A lot of great info to draw from, thanks. re: Surefire 4 prong flash hider; expensive (cost prohibitive) part - unless you have a Surefire Socom RC2 can.
My command had M4 uppers on Mk18 lowers and ive wanted to clone those.
That's what I ran into when deciding what to build! The M4A1 variants are all over the place without even getting into the weeds on the MK series. Just decided to try and keep mine simple and save a few bucks! I'll be able to upgrade later on and will already have a SOCOM-ish barrel installed. Thanks for watching!
@@peteregger7928 i commented later idk if you saw it, PrimaryArms website has a big sale on geissele triggers i got one of thos tricon triggers.
@@koffeekage TH-cam comments are often hit or miss! Most of the comments make it through but what routinely fails are the notifications! I try to respond to everyone but it looks like I missed yours on the trigger.
@@koffeekage Thanks! You just cost me a chunk of money! Lol! Just purchased (2) SSP M4 triggers! Best Geissele prices I've seen in a long time!
Personally.. It's not an M4 clone unless you spend the coin for an M4 RAS. It is VERY noticeable and destroys the look.
I have no argument!
Hello again from N. Ga., Pete. Thanks for another excellent video! I'm anxious to see the build progress. I have a couple of questions, if I may ask. First, when staking a castle nut, what size center punch do you use? Next, where can someone get an Armours Manual like the one you have? I believe you said it was a marine corps manual, does one have to be or have been in service? Thanks, and have a great day!
The hard copy manual I have for M16A2 is U.S Marine Corps Technical Manual TM 05538C-23&P/2 October 1984. You may also be able to locate one by the NSN 1005-01-128-9936. I found mine at a gun show back in the mid 80's but they can be purchased from a number of online retailers these days and are usually copies not the genuine manual. I know that I probably should but I never stake my castle nuts. I have a couple of old carbines from the early 90's that used the spanner ring lock nut not the newer style castle nut. To my knowledge the spanner ring lock nuts were never staked by the military or anyone else and mine have never come loose. They were torqued somewhere around 38-40 ftlbs. That being said... don't be like me! Stake your castle nuts! Brownells has a video showing how they do it and what style punch to use although I find some of their information subject to question! Lol!
If you're looking for Technical Data Packages for the M16A2 or M4 here's where to go to download them. Go to Gatalog.com. Click on "Technical Data Packages". You will be redirected to Odysee. Click on "Content". The "M4A1" thumbnail should populate at the upper left. The "M16" thumbnail will be at the bottom right. I would post a link but this platform doesn't allow it!
Thanks for the reply and the information, Pete. I will certainly look on those sites. I probably missed you're saying, but what brand is that M4A1 lower receiver you showed in this video? Thanks again, Pete, be safe and have a great day!
@@John-zf5wc Palmetto State Armory. They are one of the few manufacturers that mark them U.S. Government but with no manufacturer logo's because of copyright concerns. There are some engravers around that can put the correct Colt or FN on them. Most of them are using lasers so it won't look exactly like a roll stamp. I've had good luck with the receivers but the anodize is usually a little rougher in texture than it should be. If you're thinking of an A1 or A2 their H&R line up is pretty good although H&R never actually made an A2.
@@peteregger7928 Thanks, Pete. I kept rewinding & stopping the video on the receiver but could never quite make out the PSA name & Columbia, S.C. on the upper right of your receiver. Ha Ha! Yes, I'm currently looking at PSA's H & R gray uppers & lowers, A1 barrel assembly, A1 lower parts kit, H & R BCG & CH. I'm also pricing a lot of parts at Brownells & Midway. Brownells has an assembled barrel for $199.99 as opposed to PSA's for $259.99, although PSA's is chrome lined. I should probably go for black, as there is a wider choice of available parts. If I had a few black parts, do you think I could successfully paint with Aluma - Hyde or another product, or abandon the gray idea? I've ordered from all three and they've all been great for me. Also looking at JSE, TNTE, Double star, Luth, and even Bud's. LOL. Dang, I was just going to say thanks and have rambled on and on! Thanks for your time and valuable information, Pete!