Thanks. We are moving from pre-recorded videos to live worship and I was feeling completely overwhelmed. Now I don't think I'm drowning. I may merely be treading water, but I'm not drowning,
Stomp lyrics changes. I'm impressed!!! I want one. My daughter does our slides now and does a great job but I always thought there'd be a way to do it myself without a hand clicker or mouse etc
I found your channel today from the $4 teleprompter. Which I thought was a weird recommendation because I wasn't searching for teleprompters. But I clicked,enjoyed it and watched some of your other videos. I sent your channel to some of my friends who are Pastors with small churches. C'mon Somebody!
Just wanted to say thanks so so much for taking the time to share this stuff, the info was _exactly_ what I needed today. We already stream worship most weeks (using obs, transparent lyrics, with sound desk and multiple mics, etc etc) - but always on fb live. This weekend - for reasons I won't bore you with - I have to use zoom instead and wasn't sure how to get the best out of it, thank you thank you thank you!
Thank you so much, Im late for the party but my church is starting present services just now but some people won't be able to participate (bcs of work, health or where they live) and we wanted to still do zoom in the live services for them. A lot of people are helping with facebook or youtube live stream but our church likes zoom bcs we can see the people at home too and still have some kind of communion.
Hi Brother, what can I say? Wish that I knew you in Oct 2020. We are still using Zoom because of we don't know where to put our money and we were thinking that by using Zoom, we don't need to go too deep into the tech areas. As we take turns to PA and manage the PA as well. I like OBS, but we came across other issues such as two way communications with member and more importantly, our guest speakers for Sunday services as well. You have pointed out great ideas that I never thought of such as the transparent Google slides and using OBS as well. I hope that God will richly bless you and your ministry. Wai from Australia.
Wow man! Your voice is amazing! I saw the video about the teleprompter and I’m here now haha GOD bless you! I’m Christian too and my channel here is Christian so if you want to see..! 🙏🏻
Question: do you recommend that the congregation change any of THEIR zoom settings? We are singing at a memorial and have little control over the setup at the house of worship, but can make the simple adjustments you’ve suggested. Just wondered if the people tuning in need to change anything on their end. Thanks so much!
I found you from the $4 teleprompter video and thought you were hilarious. Also heard church so I was sold....subscribed thanks for the info on that. Going to put the stock flower photo on your fridge hahaha just simply hilarious.
Bro your a beast I love complicated. I am going to take all the recommendations you just presented and use them. Thank You so much & Bless You for sharing. A;so I just subscribed to your channel.
Great video man! We do something like this for our live streams. The only difference is we use OBS virtual camera, that way we don't have to share screen in Zoom.
Bro!!!! Thank you so much! This was so incredibly helpful. Ive got one additional question if you have the time. How do I still do this if I’m not the host and I still need to listen to my pastor pray while I lead worship with him? We are doing weekly prayer and worship nights!
The host can allow you to share the screen, I'm not the host on mine either. As for the prayer, just wear headphones and turn down your headphone volume when playing (so you don't hear delayed audio) and back up when they are praying.
I will be called on to do music as participant in a zoom meeting the pastor does. Do the settings I made here apply if I am just a participant? (I don’t think so) without these settings to help, the sound will be unacceptable.
That's a great idea. I would never have thought about using google slides that way. One thing that may help in the middle, is that you can crop live in OBS to get the exact size you want by holding down Alt while clicking on the frame and crop any of the four sides to wherever you like. Thanks so much.
Great stuff! For cropping in OBS, you could also just hold OPTION or ALT key and then drag the corners to crop. :) For presentation software, I use *VideoPsalm* (Windows), or *Holyrics* (Win, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS). Both *free* & *portable* (meaning you can store them in a USB and run on any computer). For more advanced audio mixing & audio routing, you can also use *VoiceMeeter Banana* or *VoiceMeeter Potato.* _Both donationware but free to download. Although Banana is donationware, it's optional. Potato gives you 30 days to try it and then asks you to donate after that._ This is very useful esp if you want to feed your OBS' audio through your webcam and also actually hear Zoom or Yourself through VoiceMeeter to your headphones or monitor. You also don't need to be the Host to share your sound. Although audio quality is not as good as when you use the Share Screen option in Zoom, it's a workaround for non-hosts. It's good to have many options. :) For more advanced stuff, if you have group chat running in the background, you don't want those notification sound to be heard by people in Zoom. You can also do audio panning for each audio channel/strip, sending Zoom's sound to your left ear, while sending other media applications/notifications sound to your right ear. Lots of things you can do with VoiceMeeter. Also, depending on your use case, you may need to install VB-Cable (Virtual Audio Cable) - Free & Donationware available on their site. Good Luck
hey this is amazing thank you for your tutorial. i just have one question.. how would the mic work if we are at church?? with say up to 4 worshipers? Even though we are at Church we decided to keep zooming our service since we have people from different country signing in
Nice bro, iam from Malaysia, and i want to ask, how can i add audio at obs to zoom. Because in my obs audio no access i put into zoom. Anything wrong on my computer? And how to call that footpadle u use bro. Watch on your video, iam exited to waiting my turn to lead on worship. Thank you God Bless
Thank for this info. I do same thing trough Proprecenter 6. Use live video like background and share screen from proprecenter. Also use logic x for eq, compressor and effects for audio.
Loved the video but would like to know if I can skip OBS? We’re getting ready, prayerfully, to return to physical church but would like to continue to use Zoom to stream the service via Meeting or Webinar. We’re planning on using a PTZ Optics camera but I’m stuck on the audio question. Could I purchase one USB mic to pick up our church speaker audio for a Zoom broadcast or is there a better way to handle this situation? I know Zoom only wants one mic at a time. We have an analog mixer with three mics(Pastor, Piano, occasional singer) connected to it so I’m worried about the feedback issue if I use an audio interface. Any help greatly appreciated!
@@stuff.church Thanks! I just wasn't sure if Zoom could handle the two mics that are on and connected to the mixer with out creating feedback even through an audio interface.
It's kind of ridiculously complicated as you said, but it's really very logical. It all makes sense. We have horrible audio problems with our live Sunday services on zoom, a whole list of concerns. We're not even to the level of using OBS yet. that's a gleam on the horizon still. That said, we have all the zoom selections selected in zoom that you talk about here. It's still baffling. I'll report back when we make progress. I might even make my own short video about how we're working and what is and is not working. Question though... if not zoom, then what?
Good luck! It's possible OBS might help your audio issues, since it gives you more control. If you don't need interaction from the people watching you my consider just doing a livestream on TH-cam
I got as far as window capture in OBS. I chose window capture in OBS but the Google Slides window does not appear as an object to choose from in the properties. I am stuck. I tried using a different browser. It just doesnt appear in the list. Using a MAC running Mojave OK Solved it myself. OBS did not recognize that google slides was on a different desktop on the Mac. As I a mac user I am always using multiple desktops especially with zoom as I can set up screen shares in advance that way,
Hi Nathan, thanks for your videos. Very educative. Please do you have advice on how a soloist can perform with a multi track/backingtrack to do worship via our church on zoom. So lost hope you can help.thanks alot
That could be tricky you would have to bring another audio source into zoom from a DAW that was running the multitrack. You’d need audio routing software like ishowu audio capture
@@stuff.church please is there a particular video of yours I could watch to learn this, also I use a pc, which multitracks could work.. Sorry for so many questions.. I'm a complete novice but really want to enhance our worship sessions.. Its been a touch and go experience, not worthy 🙏😒😱
@@mapp4323 I don't have a video on this subject, truthfully there are so many tricky things to this i wouldn't know how to do it with out seeing your set up. The easiest way would probably be to mix it all on a USB mixer and send that audio to OBS. Something like this might work: www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/yamaha-mg12xuk-12-channel-analog-mixer. But i cant know for sure
@@stuff.church thanks so much for taking the time to reply.. You are indeed a blessing to us all.. Thanks for the link and will let you know how it goes. Merci beaucoup.. Thanks
Hi Nathan. Wow this is GREAT information! Are the audio suggestions good if I'm just using Zoom for speaking? Or does this video only apply to worship leading?
@@stuff.church Hello again Nathan. Thanks for your reply. Just so I'm clear: Sadly our little church doesn't have live musicians. What I do is the worship lyric videos for praise & worship. So do I need to change the settings in zoom or leave them as they are? Let me add; it would be nice if the Worship Leader could be heard over the video, in case she wants to prompt the listeners with the song verses.
This is a big help! We're back in the building now but my worship team are yet to meet and practice together so I was hoping to run them via Zoom , this has answered a lot of questions! I just have one more: could I run my mic through my interface so I can connect my guitar too , or would that distort the sound?
Hi Victor! Awesome tutorial! Praise God for you. I have to sing (a cappella) on Zoom for a virtual service and all I have is a headset microphone. Will this work well or should I go and get the stand alone mic?
Hi Nathan, Really loved your video and the entire solution. Basically, I'm trying to do live worship from OBS to Zoom via screen sharing from OBS. is it possible if you can share your audio settings yo did in OBS to make your audio sound clear in the last part where you showed lyrics at the side. because when I followed the method I hear some echo and some loops In the background and my audio seem to be delayed as well.
Wow, great explanation! Thanks!! A lot of work and "discovery" went into putting this Zoom information available. This will help a lot of folks trying to use Zoom to connect with their members and provide some kind of worship music! Will this help with sharing videos in a Zoom screen? Would there by any different settings to avoid choppy videos?
Great video, thanks! I'm wondering: my Mac only has USB C connections - are there any alternatives to the Tonor Q9 you would recommend that have USB C?
I'm not sure many that come with a usb C cable, but most have detachable cables (including the Q9) so you could but a usb C cable for them. The Q9 would be a usb A to usb C cable.
Hello this is a great video! thank you! I just have question, the video seems fine, but nobody hears the vocals i am transmitting from OBS. Is there any setting i need to account to transmit my OBS audio. I am using a usb microphone and would like to have the audio be coming from OBS when i speak. Thanks in advance!
@@stuff.church praise the Lord! I figured out what is wrong with my set up. In OBS, I should have set the audio monitoring to “Monitor Only - mute output”. This will allow me to hear my own voice in obs. Making the share computer sound in Zoom possible. Thanks for your video Bro! This really helps a lot! Enjoy the joy of serving Jesus!
Even better way for lyrics - use OpenLP (it's free) and output lyrics on mobile local server (the last settings menu). So OpenLP puts out lyrics on a local IP address. Adjust OpenLP's default theme and use transparent background. Then open OBS and add a Browser/URL, paste the IP from OpenLP (give it the IP your device has on the network) and OBS will neatly display lyrics as overlay on the video feed. You can even use OpenLP remote on your mobile phone to remote control the lyrics. Have fun, be blessed ✌🏼
@@stuff.church With the auto-adjust checkmark box, there is a "suppress background Noise" option. Then under "advanced", there is "echo cancellation" and then 3 options when you "enable original Audio." 1. Disable echo cancellation. 2. High fidelity music mode. 3. Use stereo audio
Thanks for video. I could have trawled through material looking to piece it together to see what works, although you have brought some enabled action to the process. Thank you.
Dear Nathan, I am currently having 3 inputs (vocal, guitar and a keyboard) in worship leading on Zoom. I have the instruments plugged into a mixer and sends out the MAIN OUT to a DAW (Reaper) to convert the analog sound to digital. I get a member to share screen on lyrics (using Power Point), which means to say, people will only see a little window of me..... so you can understand how precious is your idea. However, in my situation, using mixer and feeding signal into a DAW, how do i incorporate the OBS?
I believe you have 2 options; 1. run the output of the DAW to the input of OBS using a "virtual cable" app such as iShowU Audio Capture 2. run the mixer signal straight into OBS and loss the DAW altogether
Been experimenting with this. Running macOS 10.13.6 on a MacBook Pro. I am using iSingWorship (a FREE app for macOS, Windows, Android, and iOS where you just pay for the songs you use - about $3 each) for responsive (you can repeat sections, cut out the other instruments and leave only guitar, add/remove lead vocals, etc) backing tracks and lyric projection (cropped and chromakeyed into OBS) and the computer's webcam for video. It all 'works' but when I record a practice session from Zoom I find the video lags behing the audio somewhat. I am using the free iShowU Audio Capture plugin to capture the Mac's system audio (coming from iSingWorship). Do you have any experience of how to sync the audio with the video? I've tried the audio sync timings in the advanced properties of the mixer, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
I’ve got the iShowU Audio Capture driver running as a virtual mic input into OBS. This captures the Mac’s internal audio. So, when iSingWorship plays, OBS is receiving the audio. I’ve then got OBS sending it’s monitor output to the ZoomAudioDevice as per your video. I then screen share the OBS preview window in Zoom.
Update. I found a way to fix it that also works with StreamYard (I need Zoom for Sundays and SreamYard for Thursday nights). I bought the Loopback and AudioHijack bundle. In AudioHijack I created a session that captures the system audio, immediatey routes it to my monitors (e.g., headphones) and then routes it to a delay block (250 ms) and then out to Loopback. I then use Loopback as the input device for Zoom and StreamYard. Et voila! I can monitor the audio in real time, but the signal that goes to Zoom, etc, is delayed so that it syncs with the camera feed. By the way, I love your channel. I too came here via the $4 autocue.
Hello Sir, thank you for the video. I would like to connect with an audio system to my laptop for zoom worship. Can I directly connect Mike with system or should I need an amplifier or mixer something
@@stuff.church gotcha. I'm running admin on a Zoom meeting; having a family in a different place lead music for the meeting, but I want to project lyrics on the screen over their video. The more I research, the more it seems it's just not possible unless I was doing some sort of split screen. But this was close!! :)
I appreciate your knowledge in all of this. I have been using Zoom for our small church and I'm able to use our sound system using a separate mic to pick up the piano (I play piano during worship) and another mic to pick up my voice. My question is about lyrics. I use Open LP for projection during our service. (It's free for worship settings.) I hare the screen, so all everyone sees is the slide while we are worshiping. I have to minimize the Zoom app in order to manipulate and advance the screens. My problem is exiting the Open LP once we are finished. The only way I have been able to do it is hitting alt, control, delete and choosing task manager and stopping Zoom. Once I do this, my Zoom screen pops back up. I've watched their instruction videos but I cant seem to see what the're talking about. Would appreciate your help. Thanks.
@@stuff.church No, I can't get back to the full screen. Once I minimize the screen to operate Open LP, I can't get back unless I do the alt, control, delete.
Hi, Im planning to use Audio Interface to connect my Guitar, Piano, and mics. How can I optimize and connect my Audio Interface with a zoom audio device so the video on OBS and the Audio on Zoom synchronize?
Thanks for the video! I’m using an external mic for worship and used the Audio Input Capture setting in OBS but Zoom’s recording isn’t picking it up. Is there supposed to be the right order as to where I put the Audio Input Capture in the OBS scene?
Hello sir , You can use OBS virtual Cam to Send your feed into Zoom - by Changing Video source in Zoom to OBS camera . By this setup you don’t need to share your Screen in Zoom. So if there’s any changes you don’t have to stop sharing your screen.
Yes, everyone in their own Zoom within the Zoom meeting I am hosting. But everyone's voice is not synchronized and off beat. How can I get everyone in sync?
in terms of getting your OBS feed into Zoom, there's also a plugin called "VirtualCam" - obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-virtualcam.539/ that I've seen people using, which just makes the OBS feed show up as a webcam. Would require spotlighting the video in Zoom so everyone had it pinned though, whereas screen sharing does that automatically.
If you’re okay with compiling OBS from scratch, then you CAN use virtual cam on macOS. See github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam. I tried it myself on Friday and got it compiled and working.
@@Dad_In_The_Box What do you mean compiling OBS from scratch? I tried setting up the virtual cam, my zoom couldnt find OBS in the video camera dropdown. I did start virtual cam. But my OBS was setup earlier.
Is it absolutely critical to have 2 screens? Or can you get away with 1, such as running Zoom from a laptop, and sending OBS to it from the same screen?
The problem is that in zoom you have to share your whole screen, so OBS needs to be in full screen on one monitor. It may be possible if you minimize zoom after sharing, but Im not sure
@@ivantsymbalov9043 Oh yes, i see that under the advanced tab, thank you for sharing! So Yes it appears you can do so with one screen if you can fit OBS, google slides, and zoom all in that same screen
@@stuff.church I haven't tried with OBS yet, but, when you click share in Zoom, it lets you select your entire desktop, or a specific window to share. I did this last night in a Zoom session, and shared a browser window. I had multiple windows open. I wasn't running OBS, but I'm thinking, conceptually, that should work, even if you don't keep OBS in front/on top.
Hmm, I can't seem to find google slides as a source in the drop down list. Am i missing something? (i have created the slides and used the chroma key background on them) PS. Thx for the vid! Edit: FOUND IT! I just had to close and reopen and then OBS found the source!
Great, I didn't know about Stomp. Sadly, we can't buy one on our zone. Quite a lot of tech stuff is not available on Amazon for our part of the world. Yes, I agree that everyone needs to be muted during the worship time. But you might want to make sure the settings are set to mute all on entry, and don't allow others to unmute themselves. I have had too many times where people have joined late, and they unmuted themselves during worship (inadvertently) and started having an off-screen conversation about their lunch or whatever. Not a great experience for the rest of us! I had originally tried to have co-hosts set up to mute and unmute people as needed, but it didn't work out so well. So I am sticking to having full control, and keeping tabs on participants. I would like to try OBS studio, but with only having space for one screen atm, it's a bit tricky to use Zoom to its best, so wouldn't be able to use all the features of OBS you described (and would have to change slides by hand). Doing full screen share in Zoom has been problematic, as I can't access other software (such as word doc with the scripture reading) while full screen. If I do a "partial screen share" by using settings in powerpoint for lyrics it gets over that when using one screen, but isn't ideal as you have to mess around with the shared image size and keep the control bar out of the way etc. But then you only have the lyrics on screen and have to switch back to speaker view when the song has finished. We preferred to have the lyrics on screen while the songs were playing than rely on pdf or song sheets sent out and have someone switch the pages when needed, or make a video ahead of time where you didn't have to switch pages at all. I do have a second screen, which was intended to replace my current one, and is a lot larger, but that means I don't have space for both. Thanks for the worship sets on Reawaken that help out in regard to "live" worship when things aren't always possible to get a band or group together.
Thank you! good call on keeping control on all the muting. Yes, the second way using OBS isn't really possible with one monitor unfortunately. but it sounds like you've come up with a decent way to use lyrics with one monitor
Thanks. We are moving from pre-recorded videos to live worship and I was feeling completely overwhelmed. Now I don't think I'm drowning. I may merely be treading water, but I'm not drowning,
Stomp lyrics changes. I'm impressed!!! I want one. My daughter does our slides now and does a great job but I always thought there'd be a way to do it myself without a hand clicker or mouse etc
I found your channel today from the $4 teleprompter. Which I thought was a weird recommendation because I wasn't searching for teleprompters.
But I clicked,enjoyed it and watched some of your other videos.
I sent your channel to some of my friends who are Pastors with small churches. C'mon Somebody!
Thank you so much for sharing it with them!
So helpful! Hosting a prayer worship night tomorrow on zoom and in-person. Thank you! God bless!
Just wanted to say thanks so so much for taking the time to share this stuff, the info was _exactly_ what I needed today. We already stream worship most weeks (using obs, transparent lyrics, with sound desk and multiple mics, etc etc) - but always on fb live. This weekend - for reasons I won't bore you with - I have to use zoom instead and wasn't sure how to get the best out of it, thank you thank you thank you!
You're very welcome!
so helpful thank you! I'm leading worship on zoom on my own for the first time tomorrow, I'm gonna try all the tips you suggested!
Good luck!!
Thank you so much, Im late for the party but my church is starting present services just now but some people won't be able to participate (bcs of work, health or where they live) and we wanted to still do zoom in the live services for them. A lot of people are helping with facebook or youtube live stream but our church likes zoom bcs we can see the people at home too and still have some kind of communion.
Hi Brother, what can I say? Wish that I knew you in Oct 2020. We are still using Zoom because of we don't know where to put our money and we were thinking that by using Zoom, we don't need to go too deep into the tech areas. As we take turns to PA and manage the PA as well. I like OBS, but we came across other issues such as two way communications with member and more importantly, our guest speakers for Sunday services as well. You have pointed out great ideas that I never thought of such as the transparent Google slides and using OBS as well. I hope that God will richly bless you and your ministry. Wai from Australia.
Thank you!
Wow thanks man, i surely gonna try this on next youth service. God bless you.
Wow man! Your voice is amazing! I saw the video about the teleprompter and I’m here now haha GOD bless you! I’m Christian too and my channel here is Christian so if you want to see..! 🙏🏻
Thank you!
I love this brother, great job, I can learn more from you. I believe this will be the future for churches
this tutorial is really helpful. i'm excited to enhanced our live worship in our morning devo on our company. thank you and God bless!
hey you can click alt + drag the sides of the selected window on obs to crop instead of resize
Yea, I learned that shortly after making this video
You are the best, Nathan.. keep creating.. Many Thanks.. JBU
Thank you!
I've barely listened to 1:26 and hit subscribe. Well done brov!
Thank you!
Hey Nathan, thank so much for helping worship leaders deal with zoom. I appreciate this so much!
God bless!
thank you!
Woowww. this is so helpful. thank you Man. Great job 👍🏻
Wow!! This is a gold mine of information. Extremely valuable!! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
@@stuff.church It sure was.
Dude, this is just amazing! I have all the equipment to do this, but you put it into perspective EVERYTHING!! Bless you man!
Thank you!
The transparent slides idea is great!! Thank you bro!!
You are welcome!
I was looking for this video months ago!
Question: do you recommend that the congregation change any of THEIR zoom settings? We are singing at a memorial and have little control over the setup at the house of worship, but can make the simple adjustments you’ve suggested. Just wondered if the people tuning in need to change anything on their end. Thanks so much!
I found you from the $4 teleprompter video and thought you were hilarious. Also heard church so I was sold....subscribed thanks for the info on that. Going to put the stock flower photo on your fridge hahaha just simply hilarious.
Thank you!
Bro your a beast I love complicated. I am going to take all the recommendations you just presented and use them. Thank You so much & Bless You for sharing. A;so I just subscribed to your channel.
Thank you!
Great video man! We do something like this for our live streams. The only difference is we use OBS virtual camera, that way we don't have to share screen in Zoom.
Thanks for sharing this precious information! God bless you!
Thanks man, it was way way helpful. God bless you
Bro!!!! Thank you so much! This was so incredibly helpful. Ive got one additional question if you have the time. How do I still do this if I’m not the host and I still need to listen to my pastor pray while I lead worship with him? We are doing weekly prayer and worship nights!
The host can allow you to share the screen, I'm not the host on mine either. As for the prayer, just wear headphones and turn down your headphone volume when playing (so you don't hear delayed audio) and back up when they are praying.
I will be called on to do music as participant in a zoom meeting the pastor does.
Do the settings I made here apply if I am just a participant? (I don’t think so) without these settings to help, the sound will be unacceptable.
Great job brother. Thanking you. I really learn something very new. God bless you
That's a great idea. I would never have thought about using google slides that way. One thing that may help in the middle, is that you can crop live in OBS to get the exact size you want by holding down Alt while clicking on the frame and crop any of the four sides to wherever you like. Thanks so much.
What!? Oh man, that is going make life MUCH easier. Thank you!
Wow... overly complicated, but this is helpful!! Thank you!
Great stuff!
For cropping in OBS, you could also just hold OPTION or ALT key and then drag the corners to crop. :)
For presentation software, I use *VideoPsalm* (Windows), or *Holyrics* (Win, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS). Both *free* & *portable* (meaning you can store them in a USB and run on any computer).
For more advanced audio mixing & audio routing, you can also use *VoiceMeeter Banana* or *VoiceMeeter Potato.* _Both donationware but free to download. Although Banana is donationware, it's optional. Potato gives you 30 days to try it and then asks you to donate after that._
This is very useful esp if you want to feed your OBS' audio through your webcam and also actually hear Zoom or Yourself through VoiceMeeter to your headphones or monitor. You also don't need to be the Host to share your sound. Although audio quality is not as good as when you use the Share Screen option in Zoom, it's a workaround for non-hosts. It's good to have many options. :)
For more advanced stuff, if you have group chat running in the background, you don't want those notification sound to be heard by people in Zoom. You can also do audio panning for each audio channel/strip, sending Zoom's sound to your left ear, while sending other media applications/notifications sound to your right ear. Lots of things you can do with VoiceMeeter. Also, depending on your use case, you may need to install VB-Cable (Virtual Audio Cable) - Free & Donationware available on their site.
Good Luck
Thank you! Lots of good tips!
You're welcome! 👍
Thank you so much for this tutorial! It was super helpful!
this is a great video, but what if we have a band and the audio signal comes from a digital mixer? would the sound setting stay the same?
Yes they would be the same
It's an awesome tutorial please continue what your doing, God bless your show. thank you very much.
Thank you!
Really helping bro, thanks!!!!
hey this is amazing thank you for your tutorial. i just have one question.. how would the mic work if we are at church?? with say up to 4 worshipers? Even though we are at Church we decided to keep zooming our service since we have people from different country signing in
You would need to have more mics or have one room mic
Nice bro, iam from Malaysia, and i want to ask, how can i add audio at obs to zoom. Because in my obs audio no access i put into zoom. Anything wrong on my computer? And how to call that footpadle u use bro. Watch on your video, iam exited to waiting my turn to lead on worship. Thank you God Bless
You need to select the zoom audio device in OBS
So useful, thanks very much bro.
Thank for this info. I do same thing trough Proprecenter 6. Use live video like background and share screen from proprecenter. Also use logic x for eq, compressor and effects for audio.
can you use your phone to log in and use it as the main camera to display church live music, i will use my laptop to display graphics and videods etc.
You can zoom on your phone but to use it as a camera for your computer you will need a 3rd party app
Loved the video but would like to know if I can skip OBS? We’re getting ready, prayerfully, to return to physical church but would like to continue to use Zoom to stream the service via Meeting or Webinar. We’re planning on using a PTZ Optics camera but I’m stuck on the audio question. Could I purchase one USB mic to pick up our church speaker audio for a Zoom broadcast or is there a better way to handle this situation? I know Zoom only wants one mic at a time. We have an analog mixer with three mics(Pastor, Piano, occasional singer) connected to it so I’m worried about the feedback issue if I use an audio interface. Any help greatly appreciated!
Zoom audio is just bad quality in general but if you want to try that route, I would still use and audio interface with audio from your board
@@stuff.church Thanks! I just wasn't sure if Zoom could handle the two mics that are on and connected to the mixer with out creating feedback even through an audio interface.
Zoom should only see them as 1 input source from the audio interface
@@stuff.church Thanks again! I really appreciate the guidance and help. God bless!
My church has a preacher and a keyboard player any advice for keyboard player? And what is your mic plugged into?
Can you run an output from your sound board
can't see zoom sound option in obs, please how? try to set in zoom as mentioned, but still can't see option
Im not sure
It's kind of ridiculously complicated as you said, but it's really very logical. It all makes sense. We have horrible audio problems with our live Sunday services on zoom, a whole list of concerns. We're not even to the level of using OBS yet. that's a gleam on the horizon still. That said, we have all the zoom selections selected in zoom that you talk about here. It's still baffling. I'll report back when we make progress. I might even make my own short video about how we're working and what is and is not working. Question though... if not zoom, then what?
Good luck! It's possible OBS might help your audio issues, since it gives you more control. If you don't need interaction from the people watching you my consider just doing a livestream on TH-cam
I got as far as window capture in OBS. I chose window capture in OBS but the Google Slides window does not appear as an object to choose from in the properties. I am stuck. I tried using a different browser. It just doesnt appear in the list. Using a MAC running Mojave
OK Solved it myself. OBS did not recognize that google slides was on a different desktop on the Mac. As I a mac user I am always using multiple desktops especially with zoom as I can set up screen shares in advance that way,
Hi Nathan, thanks for your videos. Very educative. Please do you have advice on how a soloist can perform with a multi track/backingtrack to do worship via our church on zoom. So lost hope you can help.thanks alot
That could be tricky you would have to bring another audio source into zoom from a DAW that was running the multitrack. You’d need audio routing software like ishowu audio capture
@@stuff.church thanks Nathan, I appreciate your reply and advice. I watched almost all your videos. I will give it a try. Thanks so much
@@stuff.church please is there a particular video of yours I could watch to learn this, also I use a pc, which multitracks could work.. Sorry for so many questions.. I'm a complete novice but really want to enhance our worship sessions.. Its been a touch and go experience, not worthy 🙏😒😱
@@mapp4323 I don't have a video on this subject, truthfully there are so many tricky things to this i wouldn't know how to do it with out seeing your set up. The easiest way would probably be to mix it all on a USB mixer and send that audio to OBS. Something like this might work: www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/yamaha-mg12xuk-12-channel-analog-mixer. But i cant know for sure
@@stuff.church thanks so much for taking the time to reply.. You are indeed a blessing to us all.. Thanks for the link and will let you know how it goes. Merci beaucoup.. Thanks
Hi Nathan. Wow this is GREAT information! Are the audio suggestions good if I'm just using Zoom for speaking? Or does this video only apply to worship leading?
You may not need to be as concerned with all the audio settings if you are just speaking
@@stuff.church Hello again Nathan. Thanks for your reply. Just so I'm clear: Sadly our little church doesn't have live musicians. What I do is the worship lyric videos for praise & worship. So do I need to change the settings in zoom or leave them as they are? Let me add; it would be nice if the Worship Leader could be heard over the video, in case she wants to prompt the listeners with the song verses.
This is a big help! We're back in the building now but my worship team are yet to meet and practice together so I was hoping to run them via Zoom , this has answered a lot of questions!
I just have one more: could I run my mic through my interface so I can connect my guitar too , or would that distort the sound?
You can run a mic into your interface yes
Hi Victor! Awesome tutorial! Praise God for you. I have to sing (a cappella) on Zoom for a virtual service and all I have is a headset microphone. Will this work well or should I go and get the stand alone mic?
A headset mic may work, they vary in quality a lot. A stand-alone mic will be more versatile if you plan on using it a lot
Can you use an interface? Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
An audio interface? Yes, you can use that in OBS
Woww.. Thanks. Really helpful.. God bless you🙏🙏😇
Hi Nathan, Really loved your video and the entire solution. Basically, I'm trying to do live worship from OBS to Zoom via screen sharing from OBS. is it possible if you can share your audio settings yo did in OBS to make your audio sound clear in the last part where you showed lyrics at the side. because when I followed the method I hear some echo and some loops In the background and my audio seem to be delayed as well.
I believe you emailed me about this, I answered there.
@@stuff.church Yes Nathan, received it and experiment on it as well.
Wow, great explanation! Thanks!! A lot of work and "discovery" went into putting this Zoom information available. This will help a lot of folks trying to use Zoom to connect with their members and provide some kind of worship music! Will this help with sharing videos in a Zoom screen? Would there by any different settings to avoid choppy videos?
Thanks Chris! Those 2 boxes I checked when sharing screen should help with video choppiness, but it could also just be a slow internet connection
Great video, thanks! I'm wondering: my Mac only has USB C connections - are there any alternatives to the Tonor Q9 you would recommend that have USB C?
I'm not sure many that come with a usb C cable, but most have detachable cables (including the Q9) so you could but a usb C cable for them. The Q9 would be a usb A to usb C cable.
@@stuff.church cool, thanks!
Thank you so much! So helpful
Hello this is a great video! thank you! I just have question, the video seems fine, but nobody hears the vocals i am transmitting from OBS. Is there any setting i need to account to transmit my OBS audio. I am using a usb microphone and would like to have the audio be coming from OBS when i speak. Thanks in advance!
Did you install the zoom audio driver?
@@stuff.church thanks for your response. What is the Zoom audio driver? can you please send me a link for that?
@@rechiejocson2986 It should ask you to install it when you share you computer audio
@@stuff.church i was not prompted to install anything. :(
@@stuff.church praise the Lord! I figured out what is wrong with my set up. In OBS, I should have set the audio monitoring to “Monitor Only - mute output”. This will allow me to hear my own voice in obs. Making the share computer sound in Zoom possible. Thanks for your video Bro! This really helps a lot! Enjoy the joy of serving Jesus!
Even better way for lyrics - use OpenLP (it's free) and output lyrics on mobile local server (the last settings menu). So OpenLP puts out lyrics on a local IP address. Adjust OpenLP's default theme and use transparent background. Then open OBS and add a Browser/URL, paste the IP from OpenLP (give it the IP your device has on the network) and OBS will neatly display lyrics as overlay on the video feed. You can even use OpenLP remote on your mobile phone to remote control the lyrics. Have fun, be blessed ✌🏼
Great idea, I may have to try that and make a video!
God bless you man! You have a great voice!
Thank you!
Wow, great work on this. Just seeing that zoom updated and have more settings than what is in your video. Any tips on which boxes to check now?
I haven't seen the new options yet, what are they?
@@stuff.church With the auto-adjust checkmark box, there is a "suppress background Noise" option. Then under "advanced", there is "echo cancellation" and then 3 options when you "enable original Audio." 1. Disable echo cancellation. 2. High fidelity music mode. 3. Use stereo audio
@@brandoncrain I havent messed with them yet, but i would guess supress background noise might add delay, same with echo.
wouldn't be easier to use OBS virtual camera with the lyrics as the zoo camera?
Yes it may be, when i made this video that plugin was not available for mac.
Thanks for video. I could have trawled through material looking to piece it together to see what works, although you have brought some enabled action to the process. Thank you.
I get alright mix, although apparently the stream is a bit laggy. If I plug in Ethernet & alter settings maybe can aid flow.
Thank You for this video. How can I add a bit of reverb to my mic while I'm leading worship?
I used this reverb pedal: th-cam.com/video/-DfWHreY0dA/w-d-xo.html
Dear Nathan, I am currently having 3 inputs (vocal, guitar and a keyboard) in worship leading on Zoom. I have the instruments plugged into a mixer and sends out the MAIN OUT to a DAW (Reaper) to convert the analog sound to digital. I get a member to share screen on lyrics (using Power Point), which means to say, people will only see a little window of me..... so you can understand how precious is your idea. However, in my situation, using mixer and feeding signal into a DAW, how do i incorporate the OBS?
I believe you have 2 options; 1. run the output of the DAW to the input of OBS using a "virtual cable" app such as iShowU Audio Capture 2. run the mixer signal straight into OBS and loss the DAW altogether
@@stuff.church Hi! Thanks for the prompt response!! Please pardon my ignorance... what is a virtual cable?
a "virtual cable" is just a small app on your computer that allows you to run audiio from one program to another
Been experimenting with this. Running macOS 10.13.6 on a MacBook Pro. I am using iSingWorship (a FREE app for macOS, Windows, Android, and iOS where you just pay for the songs you use - about $3 each) for responsive (you can repeat sections, cut out the other instruments and leave only guitar, add/remove lead vocals, etc) backing tracks and lyric projection (cropped and chromakeyed into OBS) and the computer's webcam for video. It all 'works' but when I record a practice session from Zoom I find the video lags behing the audio somewhat. I am using the free iShowU Audio Capture plugin to capture the Mac's system audio (coming from iSingWorship). Do you have any experience of how to sync the audio with the video? I've tried the audio sync timings in the advanced properties of the mixer, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
Is ising worship going into zoom or OBS?
I’ve got the iShowU Audio Capture driver running as a virtual mic input into OBS. This captures the Mac’s internal audio. So, when iSingWorship plays, OBS is receiving the audio. I’ve then got OBS sending it’s monitor output to the ZoomAudioDevice as per your video. I then screen share the OBS preview window in Zoom.
Update. I found a way to fix it that also works with StreamYard (I need Zoom for Sundays and SreamYard for Thursday nights). I bought the Loopback and AudioHijack bundle. In AudioHijack I created a session that captures the system audio, immediatey routes it to my monitors (e.g., headphones) and then routes it to a delay block (250 ms) and then out to Loopback. I then use Loopback as the input device for Zoom and StreamYard. Et voila! I can monitor the audio in real time, but the signal that goes to Zoom, etc, is delayed so that it syncs with the camera feed.
By the way, I love your channel. I too came here via the $4 autocue.
Hello Sir, thank you for the video. I would like to connect with an audio system to my laptop for zoom worship. Can I directly connect Mike with system or should I need an amplifier or mixer something
Unless the mic is a USB mic, you will need some kind of audio interface to go between your computer and the mic
@@stuff.church thank you. Which audio interface would you suggest
I use the Behringer umc404hd and really like it:
Great tutorial. very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
its easier to crop if you hold Alt while dragging the edges of the selected source.
I learn that shortly after posting this video, boy does that make life easier
Super useful; thank you! Question: Can I do this over someone else's video in Zoom and just change the source in OBS?
I used it while on someone else's meeting
@@stuff.church gotcha. I'm running admin on a Zoom meeting; having a family in a different place lead music for the meeting, but I want to project lyrics on the screen over their video. The more I research, the more it seems it's just not possible unless I was doing some sort of split screen. But this was close!! :)
thanks for the video bro, just how to install audiodevice. thanks
I appreciate your knowledge in all of this. I have been using Zoom for our small church and I'm able to use our sound system using a separate mic to pick up the piano (I play piano during worship) and another mic to pick up my voice. My question is about lyrics. I use Open LP for projection during our service. (It's free for worship settings.) I hare the screen, so all everyone sees is the slide while we are worshiping. I have to minimize the Zoom app in order to manipulate and advance the screens. My problem is exiting the Open LP once we are finished. The only way I have been able to do it is hitting alt, control, delete and choosing task manager and stopping Zoom. Once I do this, my Zoom screen pops back up. I've watched their instruction videos but I cant seem to see what the're talking about. Would appreciate your help. Thanks.
You mean you can't get Open LP out of full screen mode?
@@stuff.church No, I can't get back to the full screen. Once I minimize the screen to operate Open LP, I can't get back unless I do the alt, control, delete.
Thank you so much bro!
Hi, Im planning to use Audio Interface to connect my Guitar, Piano, and mics. How can I optimize and connect my Audio Interface with a zoom audio device so the video on OBS and the Audio on Zoom synchronize?
Your video and audio devices should all go to OBS, you can get them synced together in OBS, then send to zoom
Thank you so much my brother. May GOD BLESS YOU. Also send me your Zoom meeting link. Just would like to attend the worship service.
Lots of love.
Thank you! We are actually not on Zoom anymore, we are back in person.
@@stuff.church ohhhhh. That I forgot. You do live in TH-cam? lighthouserevivalchurch@gmail.com.
Great Job👌👌👌
Thanks ✌️
@@stuff.church thanks to our God Jesus💛💛💛
Also late to the party, but this is super helpful. Thank you so much!
Thank you, how do you get camera to iMac?
What kind of camera?
Mina Studio Canon
How is the canon camera connected to the computer?
Thanks for the video! I’m using an external mic for worship and used the Audio Input Capture setting in OBS but Zoom’s recording isn’t picking it up. Is there supposed to be the right order as to where I put the Audio Input Capture in the OBS scene?
Check the advanced audio settings in the audio source and make sure you have the monitor on, Zoom is picking up the monitor signal from OBS
Mina Studio Thanks! It works well
Have you looked into using NDI? and if you have, would you recommend this method over NDI?
What would you use the NDI for?
Hello sir , You can use OBS virtual Cam to Send your feed into Zoom - by Changing Video source in Zoom to OBS camera . By this setup you don’t need to share your Screen in Zoom. So if there’s any changes you don’t have to stop sharing your screen.
@@samjayaraj4978 thank you! when I made this video, that option was not available on mac
thank you Bro!!!. amazing tech tips .
Thanks!
After downloading the zoom ap you must register to get to the settings he mentions.
But how do we improve zoom using a say a iPhone ie a smart phone?
1st thing would be to use an external mic for the phone
If I have a choir and they are all in the same city, how can I synchonize the sound so that everyone is singing in time?
I'm sorry I don't think I understand, Are they are all singing in their own zoom window?
Yes, everyone in their own Zoom within the Zoom meeting I am hosting. But everyone's voice is not synchronized and off beat. How can I get everyone in sync?
I'm not sure you can directly in Zoom, each persons feed will have different latency based on their computer ansd internet speed. Sorry
Great video. Thanks!
You are awesome! Thank you very much!
Thank you!
I used an audio interface. Connected my mic and keyboard. Zoom only captures sound from mic and not the keyboard
Are you going through OBS?
@@stuff.church nope..
If your audio interface has 2 inputs you will need an app that can select which inputs it uses, I'm not sure if Zoom does that or not.
Very useful, thanks sir.
I cannot get to my home screen. Although I sign out it does not show the home screen
Sign out of what?
in terms of getting your OBS feed into Zoom, there's also a plugin called "VirtualCam" - obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-virtualcam.539/ that I've seen people using, which just makes the OBS feed show up as a webcam. Would require spotlighting the video in Zoom so everyone had it pinned though, whereas screen sharing does that automatically.
Thank you! I have seen that plug-in but haven't been able to try it yet because it is windows only.
If you’re okay with compiling OBS from scratch, then you CAN use virtual cam on macOS. See github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam. I tried it myself on Friday and got it compiled and working.
@@Dad_In_The_Box What do you mean compiling OBS from scratch? I tried setting up the virtual cam, my zoom couldnt find OBS in the video camera dropdown. I did start virtual cam. But my OBS was setup earlier.
Is it absolutely critical to have 2 screens? Or can you get away with 1, such as running Zoom from a laptop, and sending OBS to it from the same screen?
The problem is that in zoom you have to share your whole screen, so OBS needs to be in full screen on one monitor. It may be possible if you minimize zoom after sharing, but Im not sure
Jae Heme You can share part of the screen. To have two screens is not necessary. I use one screen. But with two screen maybe will be convenient.
@@ivantsymbalov9043 Oh yes, i see that under the advanced tab, thank you for sharing! So Yes it appears you can do so with one screen if you can fit OBS, google slides, and zoom all in that same screen
@@stuff.church I haven't tried with OBS yet, but, when you click share in Zoom, it lets you select your entire desktop, or a specific window to share. I did this last night in a Zoom session, and shared a browser window. I had multiple windows open. I wasn't running OBS, but I'm thinking, conceptually, that should work, even if you don't keep OBS in front/on top.
@@JaeHeme I believe if you select the OBS window to share, everyone will see OBS and not just your video screen
Thanks, Nathan!
You sound great.
Thank you
Hmm, I can't seem to find google slides as a source in the drop down list. Am i missing something? (i have created the slides and used the chroma key background on them) PS. Thx for the vid!
Edit: FOUND IT! I just had to close and reopen and then OBS found the source!
Great, I didn't know about Stomp. Sadly, we can't buy one on our zone. Quite a lot of tech stuff is not available on Amazon for our part of the world. Yes, I agree that everyone needs to be muted during the worship time. But you might want to make sure the settings are set to mute all on entry, and don't allow others to unmute themselves. I have had too many times where people have joined late, and they unmuted themselves during worship (inadvertently) and started having an off-screen conversation about their lunch or whatever. Not a great experience for the rest of us! I had originally tried to have co-hosts set up to mute and unmute people as needed, but it didn't work out so well. So I am sticking to having full control, and keeping tabs on participants.
I would like to try OBS studio, but with only having space for one screen atm, it's a bit tricky to use Zoom to its best, so wouldn't be able to use all the features of OBS you described (and would have to change slides by hand). Doing full screen share in Zoom has been problematic, as I can't access other software (such as word doc with the scripture reading) while full screen. If I do a "partial screen share" by using settings in powerpoint for lyrics it gets over that when using one screen, but isn't ideal as you have to mess around with the shared image size and keep the control bar out of the way etc. But then you only have the lyrics on screen and have to switch back to speaker view when the song has finished. We preferred to have the lyrics on screen while the songs were playing than rely on pdf or song sheets sent out and have someone switch the pages when needed, or make a video ahead of time where you didn't have to switch pages at all.
I do have a second screen, which was intended to replace my current one, and is a lot larger, but that means I don't have space for both.
Thanks for the worship sets on Reawaken that help out in regard to "live" worship when things aren't always possible to get a band or group together.
Thank you! good call on keeping control on all the muting. Yes, the second way using OBS isn't really possible with one monitor unfortunately. but it sounds like you've come up with a decent way to use lyrics with one monitor
This was awesome
thank you
Very neat!
I thunbs up immediately with your first statement: U know what, the worst place to lead worship is Zoom!
Great man👍
Thank you
Thank you so much!