How Do I Run My Triples? Display Port to HDMI Adapters - GPU Performance etc.
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- Answering your questions! How I run my triples, what GPU, Display Port to HDMI adapters, performance etc.
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Another really informative video mate. I'm the same as you, I can't do low graphics settings. Kills the experience for me. For reference for those watching, my monitors are DP so I'm able to run Triple 4K at 144Hz with Gsync no problem, but as you said, it's rare I actually hit that frame rate. iRacing does it at native 4K on some tracks, but others are around 70-100FPS with max settings on my 3090. The only game I've had to scale the resolution down is ACC so far and like you said, it still looks very good at 1440P on the big screens.
Exactly Will, whats the point in having really nice screens and turning all the gloss off?! :)
I've only tried ACC, DR2 (which doesn't support triples anyway) and PC2 but I'm more than happy at 1440p, these adapters will do 4k @ 60hz so for those that prefer resolution over FPS you could always do that :)
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Are either of you getting HDR running ? I just can’t with my 3090 and triple C1s
Brilliantly informative and clear video, thanks again Karl. Why haven't you got loads more subscribers mate? Brilliant channel, been checking out your content for a while now and always impressed with the quality and info and your contribution to the gaming community. I'm also very jealous of that triple screen set up lol !! Cheers, Daz, Leicester.
Thanks Daz! I'm only a young channel, still growing! lol
Your videos have been better than hours upon hours of research I’ve had to do across Reddit and TH-cam. Sim racing just hasn’t felt great on a 32 inch monitor. Very excited for this upgrade now with all the information you’ve given.
Glad I could help mate! :)
Excellent video mate thanks going to save up for these and wait till next series gpu are out hopefully thr tvs be a little bit cheaper by then to , absolutely epic though great to have something to inspire towards epic
Always straight to the point and clear. Loving all the videos.
Thanks mate!
most informative channel there is keep up the good work lad
Your setup looks brilliant. Must be great fun!
It really is mate! :)
You have a way with words that just works Karl, I love your reviews. I"ll be ordering the GT Omega Titan soon thanks to your easy to follow and straight to the point review style. Heading to Mondello Park soon (rally cross Irish Championships) , will be checking out Digital Motorsports while I'm there. Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks for the kind words mate! :)
Excellent video Karl. Very informative as always.
Thanks! :)
Thanks Karl. Really appreciated. 😊👍
sry karl i just came across ur channel (so damn awesome btw), subbed and have been bombarding ur comment section on what cables u have been using, i literally just found this video haha. thanks for all ur info m8
lol no worries mate!
More great info!
Glad it was helpful!
As soon as I'm able to build a sim, I'll be doing exactly this. Subscribed.
Good man! :)
Keep the videos coming bro 👊🏾I’m tryna upgrade my g920 wheel for a fanatic csl dd still out of stock 🤦🏽♂️
Thanks for the info Karl. I’m going to by my first LG 48in C1 soon and I hope it will work well in a single screen setup. It will be a huge increase in size for me.
It will mate, I ran a single 55" for the last 6 months and before that a single 50" bigger the better! :)
Excellent video, I drive past the Startech warehouse on my way to work 👍what you've done with your setup is incredible 👏
lol No way! Pop in a grab a box of adapters! ;)
Great video, keep it up 🌵👍
Thank you! Will do!
I am getting very tempted to go back to a triples setup due to that work of art you have in the background. The motion sickness in VR is also getting harder to overcome. Thanks for the adaptor and cable information it will certainly be useful in the future.
Interesting, my motion sickness started out pretty bad but has seemed to disappear entirely after about 6 months.
@@Gr00t mine was the opposite. I started out fine and it was ok for a while but for some reason I started to get motion sick and it takes a good while to shake it off.
@@TheRatlord74 well let's hope I don't boomerang back around to feeling sick again. Triples do seem nice though, I just want to be able to have a drink lol.
Being able to have a beer whilst racing is a big selling point for triples over VR! lol
@@TheRatlord74 you're pushing yourself to the point of sickness it sounds like. You need to step out before that happens and work up to longer times that way. Once you're already motion sick you screwed the pooch.
hi Karl, thanks to you I am planning on building my own setup. I have rtx 4090 with 1x2.1hdmi and 3x1.4dp. and I am planning to buy 3 LG 55c1. With 4090, should I still need the adaptor? or can I use dp to hdmi cable?
Karl, I wanted to let you and your followers know how I made out. I bought these LG C1 screens because of you, and they are fantastic. I am running a AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12 core processor @ 3793 Mhz, with a RTX 2080 TI. I bought the UTab DP1.4 - HDMI 2.1 adapters. They are allowing me to run 4k on my screens. I can run 4k in Iracing, but can only get 60 FPS max. I am running 1440p with my graphics setting set to max, and I am running at a full 120 FPS. Not bad for a 2080 TI. I hope this information helps, and Thank you for these videos, your awesome.
Sounds perfect mate, enjoy! :)
UTab DP1.4 - HDMI 2.1 adapters are better than the startech adapters?
Thank you
Kyle thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and what you’re using. So appreciate you mate!
Quick question, can you please share what stands your using as I’m ordering 3 55” C1 and need stands like your’s.
I'm using two GT Omega Prime floor stands and one integrated stand joined to each of those using the brackets that come with their triple kit... it sounds more complicated than it is, I'll do a quick video on it :)
So now that the 4090 exists do these starteck Hdmi adapters work at 120hz at 4k?
And i also thought that Gsync doesnt work with HDMI at all, only displayport.
I've gamed at 1440p for years now albeit not on those size screens but it's a fantastic sweet spot between 4K and performance. 1440p maxed out still looks ultra sharp and you get the additional FPS performance to boot.
Agreed mate!
Great video Karl. I've just bought a 48" C1 OLED, a next level racing wheel stand and a fanatec DD wheel. Just slowly building up my rig. I did try a quest 2 VR headset, but never got on with it. It made me feel hot and a bit unwell. Hopefully in a couple of years I'll have expanded to a proper full rig and triple screens :-)
Yeah that sounds like typical VR motion sickness Glen, I get it too after a while racing in VR which is why I mostly don't.
Motion sickness goes away with time and a bit of effort.
I know this is an old video, but its exactly what I needed for an entirely different purpose 😅
lol excellent!
Dude,you’re like god sent,I’m just about to switch from PS4 to pc for racing and I had these two tvs which I was wondering if I bought third how would I link em,and voiala here pops your video,thank you very much!
No problem 👍
Hello. Recently I bought 3 lg c2 and I have troubles with setting them up. I have the fallowing issues: when I try to set them up with Nvidia Surround I get no signal, if I reach to correct the bezel and apply again no signal. Are some settings that I have to make before? My PC (hardware) is not a problem. Also I have 3 display ports to HDMI with high bandwidth. Thank you.
Most likely your cables or DP to HDMI adapters.
Are there hdmi to dp adapters out there nowadays that are doing 4k 120Hz and gsync good and without issues?
Excellant video. Been looking for this answer so thank you very much. Forgive my ignorance but I have one question that I hope someone will answer so I can put it to rest. Why won't a three way splitter off the hdmi output work? Thanks in advance.
Because you need one port per display.
Your video is of great help Karl, I'm in the head scratching learning stage of putting my rig together, I have a gaming laptop with a 3070 in that's running my media center 65" first gen LG OLED TV and have a dedicated PC with an RTX 3080ti running my sim rig, with that all being said, my GPU is different than yours in that I have 2- 2.1 HDMI and 3- 1.4 displayports, I am putting together the Trak Racer T120 with 3 LG 42" OLED C2's and was wondering how I was going to connect my 3080 to the two remaining monitors, Currently I have one HDMI port feeding the center monitor and the second HDMI feeding a dated 5.1 Onkyo AVR that I wasn't using so I decided to use it for my surround system on the sim rig, unfortunately my AVR will not pass through 120HZ it only will do 60HZ in which would have given me that free extra HDMI but I still have 3 of the displayports available in which brought me to your video as I wasn't clear as to how to hook up the two remaining OLED's. So the way it's setup, I am using the AVR for the audio only there is no HDMI out to monitor, my PC sees it as another monitor through the second HDMI only it's a virtual monitor that only supports 1080P so it will act like a 4th monitor in that sense.
Edit in; if by chance the displayport carry audio along with video would they carry surround sound? If so I could just swap out a displayport run it to the AVR and that would leave me with two 2.1 HDMI but I would still need the adapters, one for the third monitor and the other to convert the AVR.
Hey Karl, I have a Samsung G9 running off DisplayPort so I have my triple 1440p setup running off the other two DP and one HDMI on my 6900 XT. I notice on the HDMI screen I get constant blackouts. I’m thinking this is due to bandwidth like you mentioned. Would it be best to get a better HDMI and the DP adapter, or just the HDMI? I would have preferred DP for all screens but the 6900 XT only has 3.
Black outs in my experience is usually a cable issue, not good enough or too long.
hello friend, congratulations on the work!!! a doubt , I have a 3070 with 2 hdmi 2.1 inputs and 3 dp , will I be able to use the 2 hdmi + 1 dp with this adapter ?
Yes all at 1440p
Subscribed - about to take a stab at triple 55’s myself!
Good man!! :)
Thank you so much for this video - or should I dislike because you made me stupidly order 3 LG 55B1 🙈 I've been an OLED fan for years, started with a 65B6 (still running, no burn in 😄) but the lack of HDMI ports (so the lack of VRR) has been a showstopper for me until now. And buying a 3080ti with 3 HDMI ports is just impossible right now. I'm so excited if everything will work 😱 thanks for sharing your experiences with these adapters! 🙏🏻
Lol You'll love them mate! 🙂
Hi Karl, may I ask how you got these adapters working @1440 120Hz? Whenever I set the refresh rate above 60hz @2560x1440, the colors get strange and the fonts get blurry. What settings do you use? Also VRR won't work, although I can activate it at Nvidia contol center. Really need some help 🙃 Running a 3080 as well with a LG Oled B1 🤷
I just plugged them in mate and choose 1440p @120hz, that's literally it, there's nothing else to do assuming you have good cables?
But I do not have a B1 so maybe there is a difference there?!
@@KarlGosling thanks for your reply! I bought different types of CSL cables, they should do the job. Meanwhile I got rid of the wrobg colors, but VRR / gsync won't work. Are you running all 3 OLEDs with displayport and adapter or do you have 'mixed' connections with HDMI and Displayport as well?
Do you set the resolution of your desktop @1440p or do you set the render resolution in game @1440p?
Desktop using Nvidia surround is the easiest way and then obviously in game has to match.
Hi Karl
Whats you take on below
Just got into simracing. New pc build was I7 12700K 32gb corsair vengeance at 3,6 mobo gigabyte z690 gaming x. Planning triple 32" 1440p in near future. Iracing Dirt rally 2.0 and ACC should i go for 4080 or 4070TI would run on ultra settings? Not much of tech guy so thanks for any suggestions and comments
Dont want go extreme budget for 4090 and 3090 is more then cars on the road 🙂
Keep up great job with your chanel
Thanks
Hi mate, the answer is buy the best you can afford and justify, triple 1440p will need a decent GPU for sure.
HI Karl im on a budget and i have a GTX 1080 card running 3 Acer 27inch monitors. I have 1 plugged into HDMI and 2 with HDMI to dp port cables just normal DP to hdmi and plugged into dp input on the card. My issue is that the refresh rate as been knocked down to 60hz. Am i right thinking its the DP to HDMI cables? Plus would 2 startech Hdmi to DP port adapters increase the refresh rate to monitors refresh rate of 75HZ many thanks Karl
IME It's either the adapters or the HDMI cables, but GPU's can vary a fair bit as to what they support when running multiple monitors so I cannot guarantee anything.
@@KarlGosling Thank you so much for your reply Karl.
Sweet setup. Looking to get something similar, not sure if I have the space though. If it's not too much trouble to check: what is the width of the rig from the outer edges of the LH and RH side monitors?
2.3m at the widest point mate.
@@KarlGosling Thanks!
doesn't DP connect automatically to HDMI with a passive cable ?
Hi Karl, Great content out there, ten thumbs up. I'm running Triple 48inch C1 Oled @ 3080 Ti, Monitor 3 using HDMI 2.1, Monitor 2 and 1 using 8k cable DP1.4 -> Hdmi 2.1. Under Display Setting all shown 120hz. Well I need your advise. What would be the best resolution setting should I run for Assetto Corsa (Content Manager). I only hit 30 fps by using 12288 x 2160, 119.88 resolution setting. I do scale down to 7680 x 1440 @ 120hz under custom resolution (I guess MSAA won't work by using custom resolution), but it still shown 30fps or 31fps. Am I missing something or any setting I've done wrong? Please help :)
As in my video I run 7680x1440 @ 120z but you say you have tried that and are only getting 30fps?! This sounds odd, like theres a limiter in place somewhere, or V-Sync is locked at 30fps or something similar... I don't really know what to suggest other than checking your display and in game settings again mate sorry!
Oh unless your GPU doesn't like your cables or adapters, my 3080 is VERY fussy about those and would only report 30hz @ 4k until I found a good reliable cable.
@@KarlGosling thanks to your feedback mate, anyway can you share with me about how to adjust Nvidia control panel Manage 3D Setting base on your current setup? I would like to follow your current setting and try again. I had no idea how to unlock V Sync
Karl , just a question here. Why using the LG c1 screens where u have to use DP to hdmi adapter where there are screens like the aorus FO48U which have native DP ports available ? Thanks
The build was sponsored by LG mate.
@@KarlGosling thanks a lot ! Make sense lol
Hi Karl! I have buy this adaptor! I Have 3 TV 43" 4K@60Hz, and big setup (3090, i9 11900K) Hdmi 2.1, good cables ecc... why NVidia Surround just give me only 30 Hz on 4k triple? Can you help me? Thanks from Italy!
Not without being there and looking at your setup mate no sorry.
Why adapters Karl and not straight HMDI 2.1 cables to the 3090 from the similarly HDMI 2.1 C1s ports? I mean why you use the DP on the card but the rest is HDMI on TVs side while you cud use theoretically plane HDMI cable both ends? Thanks
As I said in the video... there is only one HDMI port on the GPU.
@@KarlGosling Ok noted Karl, sorry I missed this part. The reason of my question is that I have an Aorus Master 3090 with 3 X HMDIs + 3 X DP but I want also to put on a 4th monitor above my head for the stats plus a HP G2 and i do not know how to connect them all together and do not have to disconnect / connect plugs when changing from triples to VR. I connect them all on the DP, Nvidia Surround plays beautifully. However, I need one more DP connection for the VR headset since I only have 3 x which are all already occupied from the 3 x 144hz monitors I have. Then i thought to connect the triples all thru HDMIs. I bought 8K HDMI fast quality cables and connected all. It seems them all as separate monitors but when trying to do it one flat screen with Nvidia Surround it crashes. Then i checked the Resolutions of each monitor in the NV Control Panel and it shows that the one monitor can do thru HDMI only 75hz and not 144hz (all monitors are the identical AOC 144hz 32"). Thus i do not know if I get the Startech Adapters whether I would be able to run the system in Surround mode..? Are you running yours in Surround mode with these adapters...? Thanks a lot Karl!
Hi Karl
Do the StarTech DisplayPort to HDMI Adaptors run at 120hz ? It says they are 60hz on the website.
Keep up the good work mate.
Yes mate as I said here at 1440p they will do 120hz, HDR... 60hz is at 4k.
Hi karl, thanks for your precious video. Do you try the new converter DP/HDMI 8k with 4k/120/144hz?
I have not.
If you post what converter you're talking about, I may try it and report back.
can you really have g sink with the adaptors?
Great video with some real-world examples. I suppose a lot of of sims are a bit behind the times and don't support DLSS but it would be great to know what you could push at the various DLSS settings on games that support it
Yeah nothing supports it directly as far as I know, but I've not looked into it.
@@KarlGosling such a bloody waste!
Hey mate, very informative video 👍 Have you tested out AMD FidelityFX with your setup? You might be able to get that rig running at 4K with high settings.
No I've not, I'll give it a look but so far I don't like the results from either DLSS or FSR.
@@KarlGosling I see. I had another thought, FSR might not make much difference if your new LG panels already do a good job of upscaling 1440p to 4K. It's got me wondering now what TV settings you went with 😀
Hi Karl,
Thanks so much for doing this video! I've been struggling with this issue for about 6 months now. Have a RTX3080 trying to run triple 48" LG CX's. Have tried several display port to HDMI adapters (of course I just tried the Cable Matters like you mention with no luck). Just ordered the Startech per your recommendation. Did you have to change the input setting (on the LG TV) from HDMI to PC on each of the tv's or did Nvidia control panel just recognize this with these cables?
No mate they are plug and play so long as you run 4k 60hz or 1440p 120hz, if you try to run 4k 120hz sometimes they will work but most times just black screens (no signal).
@@KarlGosling Should receive them today and going to try 1440p setup like you are running. I've previously been running 4k 120hz via HDMI 2.1 to center screen but of course my side screens could not do this nor HDR and GSync so there would be a small noticeable delay and I would have to turn down game settings so low. I believe I'll just run everything through these converters and not even use the HDMI 2.1 from GPU (similar to what you have done). I'll let you know how it goes.
Yeah thats exactly what I've done, my single HDMI port now just runs my desktop monitor... a good compromise until the next gen GPU's are out.
Hey Karl, I finally got this working and also used the new NIS setting in the latest Nvidia firmware update for image scaling which works very well in Iracing. If you haven't tried it yet I highly recommend.
@@KarlGosling Hi Karl. Thank you for your Video. I just bought 3 Samsung GQ55QN85A TVs and now I have to buy a Gaming PC. Due to the GPU pricing it have to be a GTX3070ti. There is no GPU with 3 HDMI Outputs. So my question is, is it better to go with 3 DPs + 1 HDMI (3 Adapters) or 2 DP + 2 HDMI (2 Adapters). Thank you
Hi Karl, been following your videos for ages and finally managed to get 3 oleds for my rig also! Got a good deal on 3 42" C3s. I oredered the specific DP adapter's and cables you have mentioned in this video. Im also using a 4090 but At 4k even a 4090 cant play with everything high or ultra at 120hz so im happy to do the same as you and run 1440p. For some reason though i cant manage to get G-Sync to work no matter what i try. Your build as well as Boosted Media is what inspired me to build my own and follow in your footsteps but this is the first hurdle where ive truly struggled and would appreciate a bit of expert knowledge. Hopefully you see this and will get back to me. Appreciate all your video's and content and help up to this point. 👍🏻
I think mate it's just the adapter and cable combo, for me I had to try at least 5 different cables before I found ones that worked, then I had to do nothing other than enable it... but even now the Nividia software is VERY finicky and doesn't always work as it should with me having to set things up again.
@KarlGosling appreciated the swift response. Yeah, I had tried numerous cables and adapter mixes also and can't seem to find a stable result. Apparently, the new AMD cards have DP 2.0, and with 8k/60 4k/120hz DP to HDMI adapters, they allow full bandwidth but yet to see a video as proof. Again nice one mate. Have a good day
I can confirm that gsync does also work now. I must have been doing something wrong with the software. I now have 1440p @ 120hz with HDR and GSync. You are a life saver as it was driving me mad. Truly appreciated.
Is it still working or does it sometimes not work?@@SIMply.Immersive
Hey man, great setup, I'm jealous!!!
I recently bought 3 LG OLED TVs. I'm trying to get them to work at 2560*1440 at 120hz with GSync and I can't. I bought good quality HDMI 2.1 / DisplayPort cables but despite that the signal is systematically lost. Are you able to display TVs in these resolutions with adapters? I can't find anything conclusive. Thank you in advance for your precious help.
Hey dude, I got the same problem. Do you found a solution?
I’m running this setup now and it’s fantastic but I still can’t get VRR/Gsync working through the startech adapters. Tried many different HDMI 2.1 cables can can’t get the gsync compatibility to work unless I plug directly into my hdmi 2.1 port on the 3090
1440p at 120hz with HDR
I'm seeing a few comments from 3090 and 3080 owners saying this, I think maybe our GPU's are very fussy about the signals and are not reporting reporting the GSync capability correctly?
@@KarlGosling thanks Karl! I think you’re onto something here. A few people seem to get gsync with startech or clubsport 3D adapters while I also see conflicting info saying the gsync protocol can’t be converted over HDMI to DP even with an active adapter.
Good news is, with the latest drivers, I’m able to get gsync on my center c1 plugged directly into my HDMI 2.1 port. My side C1’s do not have gsync but it’s iRacing still sees gsync for my center display. With 1440p, able to get 118fps locked and the side monitors aren’t perfectly but acceptable. Thinking about trying the clubsport 3d adapters but not sure I’ll get any different results. Would love some feedback from other folks out there with similar setups - I’m learning as I go :)
@@James-js7fk did you ever find an adapter that work well with this setup, I have a similar set up myself
@@marktrippa804 I have not - I’ve yet to see anyone use adapters and show “g-sync” enabled displays without Nvidia surround. I plug in my center display to my hdmi 2.1 port, and use the adapters for the side monitors. No VRR but it works OK when everything is running at 120fps.
Hi I’m looking for a cockpit that can handle a csl dd. What is the cheapest one you would recommend
Buy the best you can afford mate.
Do you think the gt omega Titan will handle the csl dd
Hopefully next gen cards will have DP 2.0 ports which will solve bandwidth issues when dp2.0 to HDMI 2.1 adapters come out. I commented the other week that I looked into getting two Gigabyte OLEDs as side panels instead because I think they are capable of using DP's Display Stream Compression technology which gets around the DP1.4's native bandwidth bottlenecks. But I regress since like you said a 3090 isn't even fast enough to deliver the full fat 4k120hzHDR experience.
I always heard, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, that panels had a "native" resolution and if you didn't run at that resolution, the image quality would suffer. Are you saying you can run your 4k monitors at 1440p and all is good? I'm building my rig, and this would be a game changer for me, I can buy 4k and just run at 1440p for now.
In the old days of low res displays yes for sure, these days it's more relative to the size of the display... so 55" @ 1440p still looks very sharp! As sharp as at 4k, no, but barely noticeable and even less so when driving!
Yes you certainly can, it's literally what I do! :D
Nice video.
Do you get screen tearing?
Came here to ask. Can you not do this with DP 1.4 cables? I thought displayport trumped even hdmi 2.1
The displays do not have display ports.
Great tip, do a little research and know what you buy. This is the case with many cables and converters etc. Most of the time you pay for the quality.
Sure do!
Awesome you just saved me a shitload of money, honestly think I’m gonna go for a triple 1440p monitor setup. I think 27-30” 1440p monitors set slightly closer would be nearly as immersive and much much cheaper with nearly the same pixel density as a large 4k panel (younger guy with a budget, pc also only has a 5700xt 3600xt setup!)
1440p is perfect but I would buy the largest screens you can budget for mate, it really makes a huge difference to the whole experience.
@@KarlGosling I just bought the 65” c1 oled. Will be here and set up by Friday night. I need to figure out what I want to do for a black cover. Kinda just wanna attach and attach a fabric on top rather than build a stuff board
I want your setup so bad!
Honestly I love it! :)
@@KarlGosling I do all my sim racing in VR but it gets super sweaty so I would LOVE a setup like this!
Karl, can I get an update on cabling now we are in 2024. Display port to Hdmi please.
Nothing has changed mate.
So this is the way to go with LG C2 42's?
Yes mate.
Do the adapters get very hot?
I've never checked mate but I shouldn't think so!
ACC is gonna bring DLSS so I need it soo much for my RTX 2070 Super with 3x27” 1080p. When alone on track FPS is ok but Difficult with more cars on grid like 30 or more… lower settings etc but yeah like you said I want the graphic AND the FPS, sadly that’s not really possible with my 2070 Super.
I need a 3080 but it’s really not cheap.
So best solution is DLSS because need the extra push in FPS
🏁🏁🏁
I personally don't like DLSS or FSR in the implementations I've tried, but it's certainly better than having to spend £1000+ on a new GPU! lol :)
Karl, all the video's online show that DP is better than HDMI as far as thru put. No one talks about G-sync. I have the same video card and get about 80 FPS my two side monitors only support 60 HZ so this is not an issue but I will be replacing them with 2 more Oled C1's the same as my main screen. I only play DCS and I'm hopping for 2k on all three and can only get this by using Nvidia surround but my frame rate drops down to 30-40 FPS which is unable. Just don't want to throw money at cables that I don't need. Your video points to the Star Deck adapters as being the key. I would like to talk to you more about this.
Its all compromises isn't it, some people say 1080p at 27" looks bad, when in fact it is higher PPI than your 1440p at 55" by a long way.
Why cant we get 24 million pixels running smoothly in 2021 😢
It is mate yes and of course PPI means nothing depending on eye to screen distance, the closer you are the more important it is.
One day mate one day! lol
@@KarlGosling I'm at 56cm I'm sure you about the same but you have those monsters to look at.
How much money would I have to spend on a PC to run triples on preferably not 4k 1080 or 1400p also a pre built model I'm bit of a old git so not that PC knowledge is the greatest but I desperately want a triple setup and get off the console as your very limited in immersion @ Ryan gosling
Probably around £2k -£3k I'd guess.
Thanks for this video!! I know it is old, but i am thinking maybe this summer I will go with 3 OLEDs from LG (42, 48 or 55). I was worried that I couldnt do g-sync over DP to HDMI - I don't care about 4k. I would be doing 1440p - just like you - I have a 4090. 2 years on, do you have any regrets? Anything you would do differently? Are there DP to HDMI cables that can pass the 1440p 120hz gsync instead of using adapters?
I have no regrets and there is nothing I would do differently, still very very happy with the setup!
I have not looked for cables or adapters since my build so I'm afraid I do not know whats available now sorry.
Nice information, but it's a bit of a joke that LG is pushing those displays for sim-racing without supplying them with DP-ports. Afaik GamerMuscle is still using triple 4k-resolution and even bought a 3080ti with three HDMI-ports to avoid converters. I've turned off AA to run 4k at medium-high settings when using a GTX 1060 and for me this was definitely more pleasant than using a lower resolution, which just looks blurry to me and absolute no-go. But I also prefer sharpness over eye-candies and for me WRC10 has better looking graphics than DR2 because the image is sharper. I also like rF2-graphics because it's sharp as a razors-edge. With VR I almost always turned off dynamic shadows to keep framerates without loosing sharpness.
It's because DP is old tech, all new consoles have HDMI 2.1 as will forthcoming 8k players, these are not aimed at PC users, we're in the minority from a sales point of view.
GM's card (the Gigabyte Aorus I mentioned in this video) only has 2 HDMI 2.1 ports and a HDMI2.0b... so he isn't running 4k 120hz either.
Yeah each to their own mate, I'm the opposite.
is this still the best way 2 years later?
It's the only way mate, you still need to convert from DP to HDMI for 99% of GPU's.
The TV still scales the 1440 to 4K so you are adding a little lag to the video.
Have you measured it?
What you could of done is get a lesser card for your streaming or your other panel and put your rig on the 3080
It is on the 3080, I only have on PC in this room, all four displays use the 3080.
@@KarlGosling I forgot about the LG displays haven’t got display port,maybe in future LG should have display port as well as hdmi 2.1
@@TheBuzzorca I think we'll see the opposite mate, new GPU's will come with more HDMI 2.1 and less DP as HDMI 2.1 has more bandwidth and so is the better protocol going forward (8K TV's etc.).
You can get Hdmi to Dp cable with 8k banwith. You don't need to adapters
I couldn't find anything, link?
@@KarlGosling They now have a 2.1 to 1.4 cable now. It is not an adapter like this.
Works flawlessly PRODUCT ID:102103-BLK-1.8m
They now have a 2.1 to 1.4 cable now. It is not an adapter like this.
Works flawlessly PRODUCT ID:102103-BLK-1.8m
@@Dub3God Did you try the cable you talking about? I just ordered 3 lg c2 let me know please. Thanks
@@bobinternationalvocalreact8025 yea I have been running them for months now. You will be 100% Gucci if you get what I bought
I run a 3070, with a hdmi2.1 to a Sony KD-43X85J central screen which I got for 550€, I think it's the cheapest there is to get 120hz TV
And I must say it's great, much better contrast and colors at gaming graphics than my 60hz Samsung side monitors,
though at 120hz it halves horizontal lines, which makes the fonts on the desktop look a bit blocky at 1080p
The 3070 can't really handle 1440p on 3 monitors at 120 frs, that's why I stay with 1080p.
Anyway, 260 more horizontal lines don't make a real difference on 43" screen,
which I use because it's height about 55cm corresponds to a cars window height including the dashboard.
I don't want a larger TV, because its awfull, these oversized mirrors on the sides...
The difference between 60hz and 120hz is not really big, on straights when the vertical objects fly by on both sides.
But the difference becomes very obvious, on short circuits with a lot of turning.
The vertical objects, trees, posts, buildings are moving in a very jerky way from left to right, right to left, causing motion sickness.
This is very obvious in Karting.
With Dirt Rally 2.0, 60hz may contribute to motion sickness, when there is more sharp 3-6 turning.
Unluckily, nvidia surround treats the three monitors as one big screen, and uses the highest common refresh rate, which in my case is 60hz on all of them.
So all the games that use nvidia surround will not have 120hz at the center.
As far as I could see, Project Cars 2 is the only game to go without nvidia surround and take control of each monitors capacities,
It's the game I play most anyway, it has great Karting and closed Rally Circuits.
And they are much better with 120hz, except for an occasional stuttering for 2-3 seconds sometimes.
I get 120hz and more, when I only turn down reflection effects, and honestly, who looks at those.
Meanwhile I wait as everybody else for prices to drop, and 120hz becoming standard for all TV's to replace my side TV's
when they may exasperate me by pulling down the 120hz of my central monitor.
And as far as I've read, Nvidia surround sometimes reverts to 60hz with three 144hz monitors.
It's an intolerable pain...
I now have to find an alternative to nvidia surround, because either you keep it on all the time with all to 60hz,
or it completely screws up all of the settings I had before going to surround mode.
Great info. Your judgement call here is sound! Why? Because the TVs’ native resolution is 4k. Thus, the TVs are upscaling to 4k anyway and you are seeing a 4k image. So you are splitting the job of resolution processing between the computer and the TVs. With a good amount of tv content not being 4k, TV manufacturers have implemented amazingly good resolution-upscaling technology to ensure content always looks good on their 4k TVs, regardless of the content’s original resolution. Thus I bet it is indistinguishable (to a human being) when you are playing - unless you put your nose to the screen 😀. As you said, HDR, higher fps, and the realism are way more important.
I have a 65" 4K TV, sit about 130cm away the screen when I play sim racers, and 1440p is noticeably more pixelated and at times blurry to my eyes. It's just not nearly as crisp as running the game at native 4k. I actually prefer higher resolution of 4k at med-high graphics settings vs 1440p and high-ultra settings. But my TV is only 60hz, so I don't get any benefit of running 1440p with 80+ FPS.
@@jasper_of_puppets interesting. Slightly less sharp I get as with upscaling you are probably getting 2.5 or 3 k as opposed to native 4k. It can’t be more pixelated though as lcd panels can’t change their resolution. A 4k monitor is a 4 k monitor regardless of the content fed. Also, you have 65” which is quite a bit bigger than 55”. Meaning that the monitor is too big for your distance. I recall them saying over on Boosted Media that 65” was too big and if that could do it all over again they would have gone with 55”. Finally, these are relative compromises. Slightly less resolution in exchange for frame rate, HDR, Gsync etc. It is a personal choice as to what one picks. For example, I would much rather have a pixel shifting faux-4k projector with HDR and good motion compensation than a native 4 k projector without. When moving to a native 4k projector with those same attributes, the change in resolution was mildly noticeable. The improvement to HDR and motion performance was much more appreciable (new generation tech). And this is on a 150” screen. What brand TV do you have? That can play a big role in the quality of upscaling.
@@netlawman2001 As defined by Webopedia: _The term pixelated is used to describe an image in which the individual pixels are visible to the naked eye. A pixelated image will appear blurry and blocky_
^ That is what I mean when I say the game is more pixelated. And to be technical, I'm not saying I'm seeing the individual pixels of my 4K TV, but when you upscale 1440p to 4K, in-game pixels are indeed more visible and can become blurry, as upscaling is just not the same as running the software at 4K.
Well, Boosted Media is also doing triples, and their setup is specifically for sim racing. I'm just running a single, and my TV is also for watching sports, movies, porn 😛, etc... In terms of viewing distance for a 4K screen, me sitting at about 4.5 feet is right around the range of minimum recommended viewing distance for a 65" TV. For example, SONY recommends a distance of 3.94 feet from a 65" 4K TV, as " _Viewed from this distance, individual pixels cannot be differentiated by naked eyes. This means that pixels effectively disappear when viewing 4K images. This creates the impression of watching TV pictures with the same detail and resolution as real life._ " Of course, you can find other references that say 5.5 feet is the minimum, but hey... whatever. haha
So the issue is, when I'm sitting at the "ideal" distance from my 4K TV, running at 1440p causes noticeable pixelation and worsens the immersion, to my eyes.
I suppose I could sit further away from my 4K TV when running at 1440p in order to be at a distance where my eyes can no longer see the pixelated/blurred effect, but that also lowers the immersion - being further from the screen. As you said, many of these things are personal preference. I prefer to sit in the ideal 4K TV distance to maximize size immersion and look at a real crisp ultra high-res image.
@@jasper_of_puppets what brand TV?
Note that I am not arguing with you about resolution. I am merely trying to point out that there are a lot of factors that come into play when determining what resolution is enough for a particular person. Their eyesight, their seating distance, the quality of the TV, the quality of the upscaling algorithms all play a critical part. :-)
If you Need 4K to Do Motorsport then you should just play RPG. Once you see 120Hz and higher, (not 60Hz) its a game changer, and you don't care about looks anymore.
Those adapters are only 60hz at 4k
They are, but 120hz at 1440p per display which is what I use... as explained.
Immersion and distraction : what about simply switching off light and a darker curtains in that room when playing ? 🤲
No where near the same mate, you can still plainly see the walls, window etc. even at night and during the day it's just not even close.
Cable matters:
They now have a 2.1 to 1.4 cable now. It is not an adapter like this.
Works flawlessly PRODUCT ID:102103-BLK-1.8m
I'd love to try one but they are currently unavailable and only 1.8m long :(
hey mate, do these cables actually work? have a similar set up
@@marktrippa804 yes sir. Been using them for months now no issue. Maybe everyone once in a while I need to unplug and then plug back in.
@@Dub3God do they do 4k120hz with gsync? I'd be happy if they just did 1440p 120hz with gsync
@@marktrippa804 nothing does 4k 120 Gsync hdmi to DP. But these do native 4k 120hz all day plug and play.