It is really great to see the channel grow! I think I have been here around 20k subs and will keep watching your videos. Joseph, I think you are doing an amazing job narrating those videos please never stop!
You can describe every contender's situation as "make or break" unless they've won a championship recently. But yeah, the Celtics' injury concerns with everyone from Horford, Porzingis, Williams, Brogdon etc is scary.
We all know how this will end knowing the Celtics, great regular season where everybody picks them to win it all, only to fall short in the postseason yet again.
Tatum is 25, jaylen is 26 If Tatum had best the warriors for the title he'd have been the youngest player to be the best player on a championship team since magic Johnson 40!!! Years ago Ur literally trying to flip the script and act like their behind schedule when they've been way ahead of it this whole time lol Tatum is 25, brown 26 They're STILL NOT EVEN IN THEIR PRIMES LOL Id be shocked if Tatum n brown don't win AT LEAST 3 championships
@user-gz4mq6xb2f yeah its been that way since they got in the league and made worse by all these talking head shows like first take where everyone just sorta parrots the same thing. I think tatums rookie year made a lot of people lose perspective including the fan base.
@@KillaCsOnAttack It doesn't help their case that that's been their MO for most of the seasons since they joined together in 2017. In some cases, they end up losing to "inferior" opponents. I mean, they lost to the 2018 Cavs and the bubble Heat. To me, they always seem to let their opponent either build up a huge lead forcing them to come back or they themselves build up a huge lead yet proceed to blow it and make the games look uglier than they need to be.
That finals run in 2022 was a prime example of this, they DID sweep the Nets, but it was one of the more ugliest looking sweeps in recent history, had to go to 7 games against a Bucks team without Middleton, and almost lost the conference finals by a literal shot. And in 2023, same deal. They allowed the Hawks to steal 2 games when they should've swept them with ease, and it almost went to 7 games. They benefitted from Philly choking in the 2nd round, it also helps when your old head coach is on the other team. They could've disproven the narrative against Miami, but it seems they still wanted a challenge, when they should've destroyed them. And would've had they kept up and won at least one of those first 3 games. And with the looming super max contract for Tatum combined with Browns contract (which, IMO, they had no better option), I fear that their best chances to secure a title may have passed. I hope for you sake, that's not the case.
@@RealTomahawk7 prime example or warped perspective. Do you even remember who was on the roster for 2018 celtics for those playoffs? the only reason they finished with a high seed was because the east was TRASH, which is why Lebron managed to drag that sorry ass team through the east only to get wrecked in the finals. Do me a favor and please tell me who was on the roster for the bubble celtics. I'll wait
This team is going to be so dominant. Good luck trying to stop them. If we had Porziņģis against Miami, rather than smart, we would have gone to the finals.
@@basedswoop their ceiling is the champions lol They were up 2-1 in the finals and if Tatum didn't have a broken wrist would have won the championship... And that's when Tatum and brown were 23 and 24 years old lol U obviously don't know jack shit
As a Celtics fan, I don't think that any of the previous struggles have had to do with talent so much as a rotten culture in Boston. Barring the one year with Ime, every season we hear OPPOSING PLAYERS talk about how 'something just seems wrong in Boston'. Notably, free agents also talked about how the culture was bad in Boston and how they don't want to go there. These are the players themselves saying it. The one year with Ime seems like the exception and in that year Boston looked cohesive, played together and for each other and made it to the Finals. The whole firing of Ime also is a clear demonstration of the rotten culture and awful ownership in Boston. The guy was a Finals Coach in his FIRST YEAR. Yet they fired him for a consensual but inappropriate relationship (possibly multiple relationships). Ok, that's bad, but it's not like plenty of other players and coaches pull BS like this and keep their jobs. Clearly, it wasn't so egregious that another NBA team wasn't willing to give him an opportunity WITHIN THE YEAR. Moreover, the relationships were all consensual, but the Celtics were fine with throwing Ime out and dragging him through the mud...but they can't say a word about the female involved? If it was consensual, as the organization claims, then the woman is EQUALLY AT FAULT and should be treated the same. If it was not consensual, then the organization is guilty of trying to cover up sexual harassment or rape. This is after the Celtics had an investigation that was so secret that they can't talk about it, but someone in the organization could leak it to the media? Oh, and the star players had to be kept in the dark...they had to find out from the media. The entire situation speaks to a rotten, corrupt culture. If you're a player, do you really want to play for an organization like that? Do you really feel pride representing that organization? Add into that how we treat our players and is it any wonder that this team has a rotten culture? Love or hate Smart, the guy played his heart out for years in Boston. He donated his money and time to the local children's hospital. The Celtics told him that he was safe from trade, then less than a week later they trade him. OK, it's a business, got it. But no one from the organization even gave him a call? He found out via text? I've been a leader in the Army and a manager civilian side. If I have to give bad news to an employee, I always at least call but usually try to go face-to-face...even in a difficult talk like a firing. I feel like that's the basic respect that people deserve. You want players to be loyal and play hard for you...but this is how you thank them? If I was Tatum or Brown, I'd stay in Boston for the money...but it's not going to generate the love and loyalty that a great franchise should.
The organization never claimed it was consensual and the fact that they essentially fired ime kinda proves that the female involved did not give consent/switched her perspective through the relationship. The place you are getting consensual was the first initial report that broke saying that it was, but many have speculated that that was Imes camp and not the Celtics/whistleblower as it came across very positive towards ime. They also hired a legal firm to conduct an investigation. Were there things they could’ve done better, yes namely letting Jayson and jaylen know that they were investigating ime. Does this mean there is a rotten culture in Boston…no. The last time we heard anyone complain about the culture in Boston was 3 years ago now when Blake said someone on the team told him not to sign in Boston and go to the nets, but he signed last season and after that has gone on to say only great things about the culture. Jrich also only had great things to say about Boston and he was only on the team for half a season. I agree with parts of your smart take, should’ve called him at least but I assume that he’s gonna get some stuff in his return that we aren’t expecting like idk if they’re gonna retire his jersey but I wouldnt be surprised if they considered honoring him in some way.
Also to add on to my ime rebuttal, as far as we know the Celtics can’t talk about the law firm investigation because of potential lawsuit, and the firing of ime was preventative. I assume that they were given a warning by the employees that were involved saying they were considering a lawsuit which then resulted in a legal probe (you don’t usually do a legal probe without threat of legal action). Also that probe information cannot be released to the public (including other nba teams) from what I understand; but from the whistleblower and actions we know that it was egregious enough for them to essentially fire their finals coach. Also, smart found out over the phone with his agent who called his wife because he wasn’t responding I’m pretty sure he had a face to face with Brad the next day when he went back to the facility, if I remember the story right
The problem is they play for the celtics. Any other lower tier team would treat having a duo of 25/26 years old that have played more playoff games than some players as a great time, but with the celtics they wouldn't retire your jersey unless you win a chip for them.
If the Celtics lose depth due to the CBA do you not think every other contender would also fall into the same hole? Why do people pretend the new CBA doesn’t effect the rest of the league only the Celtics lol.
@@marufahmed8973CBA ain’t kicked in yet and they’re not that deep honestly. They have names but come playoff time guys like Christian Wood and Jaxson Hayes aren’t gonna be very significant. Their best offseason moves was resigning guys they already had.
Did brown take a little less then he ultimately could have? Did he leave room for them to be able to add pieces?? Do you think tatum will do that? (Tim duncan with the spurs)
In 2 years this will true because that’s when the contracts of Williams, Horford, White and Brogdon will be done and at that point porzingis will have 1 year left. So they have this season and next to try and win with this core. With Tatum and Brown just entering their prime and Boston commited they will be good for at least the next 5-6 years .
I dont like Mazzula because he doesn't play enough players. You cant play 7 guys because they eill wear down. I would give some of these new guys minutes and play at least 10 guys regularly...it a marathon...not a sprint.
As a Grizzlies fan, I’m just so thankful for Marcus Smart-he’s perfect for us, and I don’t know how Boston will win without him. It’s not entirely out of pocket to say Marcus may be closer to a ring in Memphis than in Boston…
Oh man dude...I love Marcus. But if you think he's going to be your "closer" then you're in for a long season. He's a great role player. But he's going to lose you just as many games as he wins
I don't think they care as much. They just want a more positive and disciplined locker room presence. It'd help Ja become less of a shooter, if you catch my drift.
Braindead take honestly. Grizzlies have NO spacing and their spacing just got even worse with a possible Ja and Smart back court. They are 2nd round exits AGAIN and will get stomped by the Nuggets, Lakers, Suns, Warriors, Kings etc. Celtics are the clear cut best roster in the East and one of the best rosters in the league. Grizzlies are absolutely not closer to a ring.
I want to say since 1986 they've won only one time in 2008. It has been 7 years for these two guys. I'm wondering how long they're going to make excuses for them being one and five in the conference finals isn't a great record and they sure shouldn't have made it to the finals the year before where Golden State got a free win I also can't believe they brought that coach back. It seemed like your video cut off early because from what I understand about the CBA once they pay those two they won't have any real money left over.
It's being 6 years first of all and they started at 19 and 20 😂😂😂😂 They're now 25 and 26 which would STILL BE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE IF THEY WIN IT THIS YEAR
@@JamesGraham-x3m if you watch the video it says that they started together in 2016-17. That's 7 years going on 8 years and like I said I wonder how long they're going to keep making excuses? I noticed you didn't mention the like 36 years with one championship.
@@paxtonpickett3456 my man last year was tarums 6th season this isn't rocket science And again Tatum was 19 when he got drafted and brown was 20... So basically they're first 3 seasons they still could have been in friggin college Tatum was the best player on a conference finals team that took lebron to game 7 as a 19 year old rookie lol Jaylen was the second best player at 20 Then they made the conference finals again as the best two players at 21 and 22, 24 and 25, then 25 and 26... They made the finals at 24 and 25 If that's not success idk what is lol
@@paxtonpickett3456 the Celtics also had the worst luck of any team in sports history with Len bias and Reggie Lewis dying If bias didn't die they'd have won the 86-87 chip, 87-88 chip and 88-89 chip If bias AND lewis didn't die the Celtics would have had anywhere from 3-5 more chips than they do now
25yr old & 26 yr old ALL-NBA players, signed long term and they are running out of time? You could fast forward 3 years and they still wouldn't be running out of time. Amateurish analysis
What are you talking about? They literally went to the finals in 2022. Im not a Celtics fan, but as long as they have Tatum and Brown, they’ll be contenders. Now will they ever get over the hump with those two? Probably not, but we’ll see.
@@cybertutorials5609probably not? LoL Bro they made the finals 3/4 years ahead of schedule and dumb people like urself are punishing them for making the finals 3 years AHEAD OF TIME LOL
I've been a Celtics fan since 77 KP I'm so glad they got him he is a very very very good basketball player you can block shots he is a awesome he is very smart on floor he could shoot threes like Larry Bird yeah that's it he's a 7 ft 3 Larry Bird
It is really great to see the channel grow! I think I have been here around 20k subs and will keep watching your videos. Joseph, I think you are doing an amazing job narrating those videos please never stop!
You can describe every contender's situation as "make or break" unless they've won a championship recently. But yeah, the Celtics' injury concerns with everyone from Horford, Porzingis, Williams, Brogdon etc is scary.
Based on how well they managed the big men last year, I have more confidence than most.
Horford is always healthy come playoff time.
Horford doesn't have a injury history. They kept him from playing back to backs all last year because his old lol
If Kristaps Porzingis stay healthy 2024 playoffs and average 20+ PPG, 8 RP, 3 APG & 1 BPG Boston Celtics big chance get #18 banner
We all know how this will end knowing the Celtics, great regular season where everybody picks them to win it all, only to fall short in the postseason yet again.
Tatum is 25, jaylen is 26
If Tatum had best the warriors for the title he'd have been the youngest player to be the best player on a championship team since magic Johnson 40!!! Years ago
Ur literally trying to flip the script and act like their behind schedule when they've been way ahead of it this whole time lol
Tatum is 25, brown 26
They're STILL NOT EVEN IN THEIR PRIMES LOL
Id be shocked if Tatum n brown don't win AT LEAST 3 championships
@user-gz4mq6xb2f yeah its been that way since they got in the league and made worse by all these talking head shows like first take where everyone just sorta parrots the same thing. I think tatums rookie year made a lot of people lose perspective including the fan base.
@@KillaCsOnAttack It doesn't help their case that that's been their MO for most of the seasons since they joined together in 2017. In some cases, they end up losing to "inferior" opponents.
I mean, they lost to the 2018 Cavs and the bubble Heat.
To me, they always seem to let their opponent either build up a huge lead forcing them to come back or they themselves build up a huge lead yet proceed to blow it and make the games look uglier than they need to be.
That finals run in 2022 was a prime example of this, they DID sweep the Nets, but it was one of the more ugliest looking sweeps in recent history, had to go to 7 games against a Bucks team without Middleton, and almost lost the conference finals by a literal shot.
And in 2023, same deal. They allowed the Hawks to steal 2 games when they should've swept them with ease, and it almost went to 7 games. They benefitted from Philly choking in the 2nd round, it also helps when your old head coach is on the other team.
They could've disproven the narrative against Miami, but it seems they still wanted a challenge, when they should've destroyed them. And would've had they kept up and won at least one of those first 3 games.
And with the looming super max contract for Tatum combined with Browns contract (which, IMO, they had no better option), I fear that their best chances to secure a title may have passed. I hope for you sake, that's not the case.
@@RealTomahawk7 prime example or warped perspective. Do you even remember who was on the roster for 2018 celtics for those playoffs? the only reason they finished with a high seed was because the east was TRASH, which is why Lebron managed to drag that sorry ass team through the east only to get wrecked in the finals. Do me a favor and please tell me who was on the roster for the bubble celtics. I'll wait
If they think Tingus Pingus is the key to a championship, we'll see what happens
Porzingis isn’t THE key. Tatum, Brown and Porzingis are the keys.
@@SkeetWeezyRiiiiiiiiiight.
This team is going to be so dominant. Good luck trying to stop them. If we had Porziņģis against Miami, rather than smart, we would have gone to the finals.
Imagine porzingis taking all those shots that smart took omg I can’t wait
Until Taytum and Brown do not learn how to take over games consistently, they will always hit the ceiling.
Do not learn how to? Wtf are you talking ab
Calm down Tatum & Brown not enter their PRIME and Jordan, Bron, Curry, Antetokounmpo won 1st championship age 27+ 😅😂😅😂😅😂
Tatum is like 3 years ahead of schedule dude lol
Their ceiling is the nba finals
@@basedswoop their ceiling is the champions lol
They were up 2-1 in the finals and if Tatum didn't have a broken wrist would have won the championship... And that's when Tatum and brown were 23 and 24 years old lol
U obviously don't know jack shit
As a Celtics fan, I don't think that any of the previous struggles have had to do with talent so much as a rotten culture in Boston. Barring the one year with Ime, every season we hear OPPOSING PLAYERS talk about how 'something just seems wrong in Boston'. Notably, free agents also talked about how the culture was bad in Boston and how they don't want to go there. These are the players themselves saying it. The one year with Ime seems like the exception and in that year Boston looked cohesive, played together and for each other and made it to the Finals.
The whole firing of Ime also is a clear demonstration of the rotten culture and awful ownership in Boston. The guy was a Finals Coach in his FIRST YEAR. Yet they fired him for a consensual but inappropriate relationship (possibly multiple relationships). Ok, that's bad, but it's not like plenty of other players and coaches pull BS like this and keep their jobs. Clearly, it wasn't so egregious that another NBA team wasn't willing to give him an opportunity WITHIN THE YEAR. Moreover, the relationships were all consensual, but the Celtics were fine with throwing Ime out and dragging him through the mud...but they can't say a word about the female involved? If it was consensual, as the organization claims, then the woman is EQUALLY AT FAULT and should be treated the same. If it was not consensual, then the organization is guilty of trying to cover up sexual harassment or rape. This is after the Celtics had an investigation that was so secret that they can't talk about it, but someone in the organization could leak it to the media? Oh, and the star players had to be kept in the dark...they had to find out from the media. The entire situation speaks to a rotten, corrupt culture. If you're a player, do you really want to play for an organization like that? Do you really feel pride representing that organization?
Add into that how we treat our players and is it any wonder that this team has a rotten culture? Love or hate Smart, the guy played his heart out for years in Boston. He donated his money and time to the local children's hospital. The Celtics told him that he was safe from trade, then less than a week later they trade him. OK, it's a business, got it. But no one from the organization even gave him a call? He found out via text? I've been a leader in the Army and a manager civilian side. If I have to give bad news to an employee, I always at least call but usually try to go face-to-face...even in a difficult talk like a firing. I feel like that's the basic respect that people deserve. You want players to be loyal and play hard for you...but this is how you thank them? If I was Tatum or Brown, I'd stay in Boston for the money...but it's not going to generate the love and loyalty that a great franchise should.
The organization never claimed it was consensual and the fact that they essentially fired ime kinda proves that the female involved did not give consent/switched her perspective through the relationship. The place you are getting consensual was the first initial report that broke saying that it was, but many have speculated that that was Imes camp and not the Celtics/whistleblower as it came across very positive towards ime. They also hired a legal firm to conduct an investigation. Were there things they could’ve done better, yes namely letting Jayson and jaylen know that they were investigating ime. Does this mean there is a rotten culture in Boston…no. The last time we heard anyone complain about the culture in Boston was 3 years ago now when Blake said someone on the team told him not to sign in Boston and go to the nets, but he signed last season and after that has gone on to say only great things about the culture. Jrich also only had great things to say about Boston and he was only on the team for half a season. I agree with parts of your smart take, should’ve called him at least but I assume that he’s gonna get some stuff in his return that we aren’t expecting like idk if they’re gonna retire his jersey but I wouldnt be surprised if they considered honoring him in some way.
Also to add on to my ime rebuttal, as far as we know the Celtics can’t talk about the law firm investigation because of potential lawsuit, and the firing of ime was preventative. I assume that they were given a warning by the employees that were involved saying they were considering a lawsuit which then resulted in a legal probe (you don’t usually do a legal probe without threat of legal action). Also that probe information cannot be released to the public (including other nba teams) from what I understand; but from the whistleblower and actions we know that it was egregious enough for them to essentially fire their finals coach. Also, smart found out over the phone with his agent who called his wife because he wasn’t responding I’m pretty sure he had a face to face with Brad the next day when he went back to the facility, if I remember the story right
The problem is they play for the celtics. Any other lower tier team would treat having a duo of 25/26 years old that have played more playoff games than some players as a great time, but with the celtics they wouldn't retire your jersey unless you win a chip for them.
If the Celtics lose depth due to the CBA do you not think every other contender would also fall into the same hole?
Why do people pretend the new CBA doesn’t effect the rest of the league only the Celtics lol.
Lakers are crazy deep
@@marufahmed8973CBA ain’t kicked in yet and they’re not that deep honestly. They have names but come playoff time guys like Christian Wood and Jaxson Hayes aren’t gonna be very significant. Their best offseason moves was resigning guys they already had.
Did brown take a little less then he ultimately could have? Did he leave room for them to be able to add pieces?? Do you think tatum will do that? (Tim duncan with the spurs)
Running out of time with the 2 best players not even in their primes 😂😂
The Celtics will win the title next season
Good call!
smart - flopper of the year award winner x10
You’re absolutely right smart did flop a lot
To win championship things have to work out, and get an unexpected boost somewhere. But Celts look to be contenders for the foreseeable
In 2 years this will true because that’s when the contracts of Williams, Horford, White and Brogdon will be done and at that point porzingis will have 1 year left. So they have this season and next to try and win with this core. With Tatum and Brown just entering their prime and Boston commited they will be good for at least the next 5-6 years .
Let’s go Neemias Queta! 💚🇵🇹
☘️🍀💪🏿….and Joseph is the best on this channel
I dont like Mazzula because he doesn't play enough players. You cant play 7 guys because they eill wear down. I would give some of these new guys minutes and play at least 10 guys regularly...it a marathon...not a sprint.
Think so ??? I think they might finally break through dis year
Hell nah
@@brianbadonde9251they're BY FAR the favorites coming into this season...
@@JamesGraham-x3m according to you? Sure
Just like last postseason how did that worked out lol
It’s steps bro…all that losing in the playoffs might make ‘em dat better
As a Grizzlies fan, I’m just so thankful for Marcus Smart-he’s perfect for us, and I don’t know how Boston will win without him.
It’s not entirely out of pocket to say Marcus may be closer to a ring in Memphis than in Boston…
We replaced him with statistically the 3rd best player in the NBA last season lol
I think they'll be ok
Oh man dude...I love Marcus. But if you think he's going to be your "closer" then you're in for a long season. He's a great role player. But he's going to lose you just as many games as he wins
I don't think they care as much. They just want a more positive and disciplined locker room presence. It'd help Ja become less of a shooter, if you catch my drift.
Braindead take honestly. Grizzlies have NO spacing and their spacing just got even worse with a possible Ja and Smart back court. They are 2nd round exits AGAIN and will get stomped by the Nuggets, Lakers, Suns, Warriors, Kings etc. Celtics are the clear cut best roster in the East and one of the best rosters in the league. Grizzlies are absolutely not closer to a ring.
@@SkeetWeezy I guess Desmond Bane and Luke Kennard don’t exist
I want to say since 1986 they've won only one time in 2008. It has been 7 years for these two guys. I'm wondering how long they're going to make excuses for them being one and five in the conference finals isn't a great record and they sure shouldn't have made it to the finals the year before where Golden State got a free win I also can't believe they brought that coach back. It seemed like your video cut off early because from what I understand about the CBA once they pay those two they won't have any real money left over.
It's being 6 years first of all and they started at 19 and 20 😂😂😂😂
They're now 25 and 26 which would STILL BE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE IF THEY WIN IT THIS YEAR
@@JamesGraham-x3m if you watch the video it says that they started together in 2016-17. That's 7 years going on 8 years and like I said I wonder how long they're going to keep making excuses? I noticed you didn't mention the like 36 years with one championship.
@@paxtonpickett3456 my man last year was tarums 6th season this isn't rocket science
And again Tatum was 19 when he got drafted and brown was 20...
So basically they're first 3 seasons they still could have been in friggin college
Tatum was the best player on a conference finals team that took lebron to game 7 as a 19 year old rookie lol
Jaylen was the second best player at 20
Then they made the conference finals again as the best two players at 21 and 22, 24 and 25, then 25 and 26...
They made the finals at 24 and 25
If that's not success idk what is lol
@@paxtonpickett3456 the Celtics also had the worst luck of any team in sports history with Len bias and Reggie Lewis dying
If bias didn't die they'd have won the 86-87 chip, 87-88 chip and 88-89 chip
If bias AND lewis didn't die the Celtics would have had anywhere from 3-5 more chips than they do now
Jordan won his 1st ring when he is 28 years old, so i think they still have 3 years before they start to worry.
that's karma for what they did to IT !!
Title of this video should be: will the Celtics finally go up 2-0 on the Charlotte Hornets in terms of number of titles in the last 30 years!
25yr old & 26 yr old ALL-NBA players, signed long term and they are running out of time? You could fast forward 3 years and they still wouldn't be running out of time. Amateurish analysis
Well, this aged really well, didn't it?
Their roster peaked in 2019 and now they’re just meandering until they rebuild again without a new title
I mean we peaked at 2021/22 as we reached the finals
Don't you remember the finals run?
What are you talking about? They literally went to the finals in 2022. Im not a Celtics fan, but as long as they have Tatum and Brown, they’ll be contenders. Now will they ever get over the hump with those two? Probably not, but we’ll see.
Were u dropped on your head as a baby?
They made the finals the season before last lol
They're BY FAR the chip favorites coming into this season
@@cybertutorials5609probably not? LoL
Bro they made the finals 3/4 years ahead of schedule and dumb people like urself are punishing them for making the finals 3 years AHEAD OF TIME LOL
Lmao the Boston hate goes deep for alot of y’all mfs. Envy and jealousy 💀😭
Hnmm wouldnt be worried since you picked the 76ers to win the nba finals
Beating the 76ers isn’t an NBA championship 😹🫵
@@ggallintedtalk no you dork. He picked the 76ers to win everything
@@ceufrscio707 I know, and that won’t help the point of the video
@@ceufrscio707I have literally never done that
@donutsbydilla That, and I never picked the Sixers to win it all lmao
I forgot Porzingis was on the Wizards. How the hell didn’t they won enough to qualify for the playoffs with Bradley and him?
Not enough support and brad played only 50 plus games
kuz out bad out KP alone
The only reason i know porzingis is in wizard is because i would always see his stat posted in social media going 30+ plus points with 4 rebs.
fat lie 4 rebs.?@@andreitaker3527
Tanking, injuries and a bad bench
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I've been a Celtics fan since 77 KP I'm so glad they got him he is a very very very good basketball player you can block shots he is a awesome he is very smart on floor he could shoot threes like Larry Bird yeah that's it he's a 7 ft 3 Larry Bird
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