The Difference Between Training for Strength Vs. Muscle Gain

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  • @cassiusle
    @cassiusle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Get stronger till you’re squating 300 lbs, then decide if you want more strength or more hypertrophy - saved you 5 minutes.

  • @TaylorTiger
    @TaylorTiger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is why i been focused on building strength. practicing form time under tension and volume. but now im starting my heavy weight lifting and going heavier and heavier sense ive built my foundation.

  • @joojotin
    @joojotin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This just proves that you need isolation exercises too for optimal results. There is obviously more to it than that but still. We know low reps and high reps both build same amount of muscle so the exercise matters a lot too. Compounds are always almost partial range of motion for the muscle, there is exceptions tho.

    • @eldirtyfaygo5395
      @eldirtyfaygo5395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I disagree. Compound movements will get big, I think it's just the style of workout and regime that affects how the body is morphed. I've noticed how deadlifts made me look bigger or give me that thick look.

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eldirtyfaygo5395 yeah that might be the case but there is no proof of that yet. And if that is the case No one understands why. I want to know what Im doing, why and how does it work. Im very open minded I havent found definitive 100% proof of anything yet. But isolation is most logical. Im not sure its best but I have seen personally gains since working out differently.

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eldirtyfaygo5395 but what you said would assume that you can change shape of a muscle. U cant and there is proof of that. You can only make it bigger, so what you said is not it. But there might be something better about some compound movements but dont know what it is. Assuming it exist.

    • @eldirtyfaygo5395
      @eldirtyfaygo5395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joojotin again I disagree. Isolation movements are inferior especially since you are targeting small muscle groups instead of bigger ones. Deadlifts will get you big because you are targeting allot muscles at the same time, the hamstrings/lower back/glutes/trapezius/forearms/bicep. The only reason why you should do isolation is to attack the inferior muscles that are lacking behind or for easthetic reasons.

    • @eldirtyfaygo5395
      @eldirtyfaygo5395 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joojotin I was talking about the workout regime not exactly the workout itself. Both a bodybuilder and a powerlifter could do compounds and have different results depending on the range/volume/and reps. This is what I mean when I said attacking the body and morphing it.

  • @svwtsvfcb
    @svwtsvfcb ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So to build strength you should be lifting heavy (80-100% RM) with little amount of reps and sets with long breaks in between, whereas to build muscle (hypertrophy) you want to lift lighter (30-80% RM) at higher amounts of reps and sets with shorter breaks?

  • @fullmetalalgebriste2873
    @fullmetalalgebriste2873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    To get strong you have to lift or push heavy simple as this but hypertrophy you can stay with the same barbell and gaining by overloading the volume the tempo and the rest so if you're afraid of injuries and only caring about your physique stay on lightweight baby 😎

  • @adamsc1181
    @adamsc1181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Has anyone considered bodybuilding type training is actually better for nubes starting off. 1- practices form while still seeing gains 2- less likelyhood of injury (cause of bad form) 3- better foundation of starting muscle before lifting heavy

    • @chimpalahee
      @chimpalahee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The injury prone aspect makes bodybuilding/Hypertrophy the superior choice in this instance and once good form technique is established. Add more weight

    • @lucashenriques4242
      @lucashenriques4242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean thats true but it also depends on the goals honestly, like if you want to do be able to do one arm pull-up well theres no chance you can be training pull-ups for 10-20 reps, you gotta focus more on strenght

    • @Shinners124
      @Shinners124 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah. Strength through full range of motion from beginning is key. Form, mobility, and flexibility is essential when starting journey. As much weight as possible without breaking form is something that’s always forgotten. Any debate of injury is irrelevant when that fact is considered(with joints and muscles warmed up properly as well)

    • @JeffEssary
      @JeffEssary ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No you should just immediately throw 225 on the bar for a beginner learning how to bench for the first time

  • @RA-ft9me
    @RA-ft9me 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yo its the M to the P 😎 podcast

  • @DontLookBehindYou1
    @DontLookBehindYou1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want a "bro" or "beach" body but I don't want to be weak or have non practical or non usable muscle... I think I'm on a good track listening to advice from you guys and several other quality channels. I'm just kind of combining information from all kinds of different channels and cross checking info and techniques.

  • @forthetube2023
    @forthetube2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Can someone help me....I am on a cut and I have been lifting very heavy ro retain muscle mass but a good strength program requires 2 to 4 min rest. ...I can seem to get enough volume while doing strength. 5 sets 6 reps of heavy squat requires 14 min of rest already so im struggling not to spend 2hrs in the gym

    • @billywolf5958
      @billywolf5958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      2 hours wtf how many lifts are you doing per session?

    • @liamwilliams1494
      @liamwilliams1494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@billywolf5958 2 hours is pretty normal for a strength training session.

    • @billywolf5958
      @billywolf5958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@liamwilliams1494 that’s a wast of time in my opinion.

    • @PhiyackYuh
      @PhiyackYuh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@liamwilliams1494 its a waste of time for strength training. Remember you grow when not in the gym. Lift less and see the gains. You need 3x a week to see gains and not train every god damn day. Your body needs recovery for everything. At the end of the day its either you find out what works for you by experimentation or get a coach that knows what they are doing. Sleep is the biggest factor. Know your body systems and how it works in unison. Its not just skeletal system and muscles, there’s more to it. If you know you know.

    • @liamwilliams1494
      @liamwilliams1494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PhiyackYuh lol I know how it works, I’ve been studying it for years, I’m just saying that in my opinion 2 hours is a normal time at the gym

  • @esinfa
    @esinfa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My basal metabolic rate is 1400 calories, very low in my opinion because of dieting. I'm reverse dieting and strength training in order to increase my muscle mass to burm more calories. However even though my strength increases every week my muscle mass don't. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I start with low weight high rep the first set (15-20) as a warm up and increase the weight and decrease the rep in each following set until I do the heaviest weight with 6 reps usually the 5th set. Any suggestions or explanations I eat a balanced unprocessed diet with adequate amoun of protein. Amy adviise will ne appreciated.

  • @kylewhisenant9412
    @kylewhisenant9412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How to become more anabolic naturally?

    • @puffypopify
      @puffypopify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Sleep more, eat better.

    • @chimpalahee
      @chimpalahee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@puffypopify Fax

  • @boatsoar2557
    @boatsoar2557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is this about. Ya'll need to discuss Pizza,milkshakes, protein

  • @thomasthompson5702
    @thomasthompson5702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Justin I love the shirt. I own one of those as well 👏🏻👊🏻🙌🏻

  • @zackariastornqvistholtta6111
    @zackariastornqvistholtta6111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want both :#

  • @scarzen1
    @scarzen1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kyle Kirvay shows you that if bodybuilders do strength specific work they can put up insane numbers

  • @hrdkorebp
    @hrdkorebp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So if I can squat 300+ lbs in advanced?

    • @chaycetancayo6991
      @chaycetancayo6991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s relative. A 300lb squat is only 1.5x the weight of a 200lb guy vs DOUBLE the weight of a 150lb guy.

  • @kelvinkirkland6068
    @kelvinkirkland6068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing awesome video

  • @wifeybaby4001
    @wifeybaby4001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you say focuse on the main 3 lifts what are those?

    • @sitatiderick
      @sitatiderick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Squats, press, deadlift

  • @kadimagratitude583
    @kadimagratitude583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How many reps and sets should you do to build strength?

    • @chimpalahee
      @chimpalahee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Low sets, low reps, longer rest in between and high weight will build strength

    • @AluminiumT6
      @AluminiumT6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      3x5 to 5x5 (Bench press, squat, overhead press) at 3x/week. Deadlift 1-3x/week at 1x5 (3x/week is really a lot, since the deadlift is usually the most taxing lift). All exercises at 80%-95% of your maximum. Linear progression is necessary (e.g trying to add at least 5 lbs to your lift every workout). Rest well, sleep (8h min), eat well (1g of protein per pound of bodyweight). Work out consistently.

    • @APR702
      @APR702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Don’t listen to anyones bullshit. I’ll give you the ingredients you make your own . 1-6 reps . 1-7 sets per exercise. The lower the reps you do the more sets you will need . The higher the reps the less sets you will need .
      Goodluck brother

    • @AbuAlKarsh
      @AbuAlKarsh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@APR702 thanks mate

    • @franbatista9062
      @franbatista9062 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AluminiumT6 more than 1g per pound is optimal

  • @christiandraayer9374
    @christiandraayer9374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If 16 inch lean arms are a dream and a 2X bodyweight squat would put you in the er keep your opinions to yourself. Your not Louie and never will be.

  • @rhys2792
    @rhys2792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sal are you sick? You voice sounds very different

  • @RDbodybuildingreardelt
    @RDbodybuildingreardelt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you get bigger but no stronger? The answer is actally no!