@@imperialtekk9443 same brother I have about dirtbikes I got a 93 kx 125 full wiseco internals a 02 yz 125 nimaura and Wisco internals on that one a 04 kx250 a ttr125 and a KTM 50 pro senior my hole family rides
@@imperialtekk9443 During my first riding days, on the road, I used to always have 4 on the clutch and 2 on the front break. Bad habit I guess, I still do it every now and then but I kick myself.
On a short lever if your fingies are getting tired in traffic you can still bunch up on it but a long lever is just annoying to me (grew up with 2 stroke dirt bikes too).
Yes I'm using stock lever and I'm fine with it. But overall it depend on most of rider, some of em using GP style gearshift on a street. Other feel bit mehh I'm ok
or you just get unbreakables, they flex backward and mounted on a nylon bush so they spin on the bar when hit from top or bottom. No broken leavers ever
you can also switch into neutral at stoplights, I think I want a shorty clutch because I get wrist cramps when I have the strain on my ring finger and particular the pinky because they're on the clutch, and having a full length clutch lever but only using 2 fingers means your ring and pinky finger get smushed between the clip on and clutch lever
I'm pretty sure racers do not use short levers. There are regular length levers out there that have a bend point in case there is a crash to help save them.
ASV's are great too. Even though im a noob, highly recommend. Not crazy expensive, ($110-120/lever $150-160 for nicer material) amazing warranty coverage, and they are built with a spring action that allows them to move forward 90° to reduce likelihood of breaking in a crash. I guess im silly for going for a short clutch and long brake lever, though 😅 but the shorty has enough room for 3 fingers on an average-large sized hand.
I always clutch in/out with 2 fingers. When I first started riding, it was so weird for me to find the friction zone with 4 fingers. 2 fingers all day!! Way smoother to me and not difficult at all.
So I can get a longer lever ?!handy to know I had my wrist rebuilt and still struggle with it after 30 mins longer lever would defo help ,thanks good to know 😊
I adore the short lever on the right, but i use a master cylinder caliper combination that already too "woody" on the feeling.. so i need to change my brake lever to a longer size so the feeling goes a little bit softer rather than stiff.
I think it’s nice to be able to hang onto the bars with a few fingers and just let one or two do the clutch. Way more control over the bike itself, and the clutch lever too. Although my hand cramps after a fun lot session, it’s worth it on the streets I think. Case something happens 🤷
@@adobomoto Riding every day, you also have the small amount of muscle needed in your fingers to use 2 fingers to clutch in. Why you hating on this guy when you're preaching stuff that isn't safe? It's safer to not be a lazy prick and keep more than just a thumb on the handlebar, retake the MSF bud.
Short clutch long brake. I have exactly average hand size, and short clutch is perfect for 2-3 fingers on with pinky or pinky and ring finger spacer. If you don’t put your pinky or pinky and ring finger between the bar, and lever try it. You’ll never use 4 fingers again trust. Brake you want longer so there’s A.) zero chance of missing it, and B.) If you’re racing/ aggressive street riding/ emergency stopping/ honestly every type of riding there’s no NEED to rev match. Rev matching is to get into a lower gear to accelerate, or for the badass sound. Zero performance gain or extra wear on the clutch for deceleration. Rev matching actually hinders deceleration. So why not use 4 fingers for added control of the pressure. 6 piston brakes don’t add grip to tires, but they sure do increase stopping performance because you can control the pressure way more precisely. Same logic.
Yeah I crashed once on my left side and my oem clutch lever completely snapped off. I hand to launch the bike into 1st by pulling on the clutch cable and it worked lmao. I ran every red light cuz I couldn't afford to stop but all was good
What? I never clutch with 4 fingers O.o Only moment i used 4 is when i struggle to get into neutral (which is rare) My clutch is quite easy to pull tho
@@blizzthebike really? Thats a rare occurrence Whenever i try to use 4 finger, my palm doesn't feel that stable on the grip and i make small movements that make me shift horribly But yeah it heavily depends on bike and rider. My riding instructor told me to only use 4 so the clutch lever could be fully pulled or sth My friend has a ducati 848 with a heavy ass clutch. He uses 3-4 fingers cause its too fatiguing with 2
@@MotoDash1100 another proof where it depends on the person/instructor et Funnily i never used 4 fingers, even when instructed to Coming from MTB and road cycling, 1-2 fingers max for best brake modulations it just made more sense
I'd rather have full size levers that fold, kinda solves that whole problem. I have shortys on my tuono, and wanna swap them back to full size. My RSV have CRG full carbon fiber levers and will have guards
If you need a handful to brake then your just a squid 🦑 and panicking , i one finger my clutch and brake the entire time I’m out riding. There’s never a moment West I need to grab my front brake lever entirely cause my 1 finger applies the same pressure my entire hand would smh
Brake lever guards not there for when you crash, they are there for when you are racing and it stops another riders bike in close racing coming in contact with your brake lever and making your brakes coming on. Just ask Simoncelli about them!
Real racing levers have a hole in end, it snaps on impact and the hole allows air through so levers don't slightly apply. But any way short lever or long lever is personal!, Never noticed a short lever in WSBK, MotoGP or BSB.
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Bold of you to assume I stop at lights
😂😂
Man I should start a street scraping company for those types of situations
🤣🤣🤣
Classic Gixxer Rider ❤
Lmao 😂
Accurate it is easier and nicer with longer clutch bit if you grew up on dirtbikes your just used to the 2 finger clutch
I actually 1 finger clutch. Grew up racing 2 strokes. Didn't change when I switched over to street. 1 finger clutch 2 finger brake
@@imperialtekk9443 same brother I have about dirtbikes I got a 93 kx 125 full wiseco internals a 02 yz 125 nimaura and Wisco internals on that one a 04 kx250 a ttr125 and a KTM 50 pro senior my hole family rides
@@imperialtekk9443 During my first riding days, on the road, I used to always have 4 on the clutch and 2 on the front break. Bad habit I guess, I still do it every now and then but I kick myself.
On a short lever if your fingies are getting tired in traffic you can still bunch up on it but a long lever is just annoying to me (grew up with 2 stroke dirt bikes too).
Yep 2 fingers on vlutch
it's supposed to snap neer the end so you still have a usable brake/clutch to make it back home.
And sell it with
A longer lever gives you better feel/control than a shorter lever. It’s a simple mechanical principle.
Yes I'm using stock lever and I'm fine with it. But overall it depend on most of rider, some of em using GP style gearshift on a street. Other feel bit mehh I'm ok
Ideally i prefer short levers on both sides. But a shorty clutch lever is a must for me.
Holding down the clutch lever at every stop light is fine. I’m trying to get those two fingers jacked for other reasons anyway.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
They do say 2 and 1 lol
I love the jokes slipped in with a completely straight face lmao
I love my CRG's. They make the bars looks so clean.
Your last point makes so much sense. Thanks 👊🏼
Good point about the longer clutch lever in traffic.
not really, just depends on what you're used to. I only use 2 fingers even on long levers, but no problem using 2 on a short lever in heavy traffic
Great advise as I just change my stock clutch lever in shorter and it really is hard for 2 finger clutch😂
RSC easy pull clutch lever is the first thing i mod on any bike. It makes wheelies so much easier
or you just get unbreakables, they flex backward and mounted on a nylon bush so they spin on the bar when hit from top or bottom. No broken leavers ever
you can also switch into neutral at stoplights,
I think I want a shorty clutch because I get wrist cramps when I have the strain on my ring finger and particular the pinky because they're on the clutch, and having a full length clutch lever but only using 2 fingers means your ring and pinky finger get smushed between the clip on and clutch lever
Says short levers suck for the street, I'm still out here on 2 broken levers 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Short clutch levers are amazing on street. Wheres my rsc one finger clutch stunt guys at.
over here🫡
Yessirr
Shortys all day for everything!
I would recommend LSL levers honestly. But those look fine aswell.
Hydraulic clutch ftw... asv shorty levers on my vfr800 work perfect
I don’t ride at all. But your vids are very in depth and educational. I like seeing that type of stuff
After 3 stop lights of 4 finger clutch my arm barley closed any more😂 first day of riding was roughhhhh lmao I'm a 2 finger kinda guy 👀😂
I'm pretty sure racers do not use short levers. There are regular length levers out there that have a bend point in case there is a crash to help save them.
ASV's are great too. Even though im a noob, highly recommend. Not crazy expensive, ($110-120/lever $150-160 for nicer material) amazing warranty coverage, and they are built with a spring action that allows them to move forward 90° to reduce likelihood of breaking in a crash. I guess im silly for going for a short clutch and long brake lever, though 😅 but the shorty has enough room for 3 fingers on an average-large sized hand.
I was looking for Valorant Shorty clips but ig this is pretty cool too.
Your content is awesome and helpful. Keep going 😃
Don’t like his tone 🤢 the type of rider that gives the riding community a bad name
@@Wise__guyno
@@samgitmans7276 yes
Your name may be @Wise__guy but in this situation your not very wise
I always clutch in/out with 2 fingers. When I first started riding, it was so weird for me to find the friction zone with 4 fingers. 2 fingers all day!! Way smoother to me and not difficult at all.
I use one finger for the clutch in traffic with an ASV lever. Don’t be a baby.
So everyone on a motorbike needs to clutch with a single finger or they’re a baby? Got it. Lol
So I can get a longer lever ?!handy to know I had my wrist rebuilt and still struggle with it after 30 mins longer lever would defo help ,thanks good to know 😊
I’ve got some of their carbon levers on a zx10 I just got definitely nice stuff
As a fairly new rider figuring out the world of bikes. Your videos are funking awesome man. Keep up the great work!! 👍
lol I use 2 fingers, and I ride in Manila, with ridiculous traffic, no problem.
I saw the same leaver on a Gxxr & it looked awsome 😂😂😅
I adore the short lever on the right, but i use a master cylinder caliper combination that already too "woody" on the feeling.. so i need to change my brake lever to a longer size so the feeling goes a little bit softer rather than stiff.
I’ve always hated short levers, I have standard length CRG RC2 on my 17’ R1, clutch and brake
Can’t wait to see some videos on the track!!!
Check the regular videos. YT is only promoting my shorts for some reason
Big fan from Portugal 🇵🇹
This dude takes in the pooper button
Oh the traffic bit caught me off guard
You teach right 👌
El chapo if you can't hold your clutch down with 2 fingers then you are weak!
I think it’s nice to be able to hang onto the bars with a few fingers and just let one or two do the clutch. Way more control over the bike itself, and the clutch lever too. Although my hand cramps after a fun lot session, it’s worth it on the streets I think. Case something happens 🤷
Always make sure you take advice from weekend riders.
Riding to your job is just commuting big guy
@@adobomoto Riding every day, you also have the small amount of muscle needed in your fingers to use 2 fingers to clutch in.
Why you hating on this guy when you're preaching stuff that isn't safe? It's safer to not be a lazy prick and keep more than just a thumb on the handlebar, retake the MSF bud.
Ride safe po kuya Idol😊
Short clutch long brake. I have exactly average hand size, and short clutch is perfect for 2-3 fingers on with pinky or pinky and ring finger spacer. If you don’t put your pinky or pinky and ring finger between the bar, and lever try it. You’ll never use 4 fingers again trust.
Brake you want longer so there’s A.) zero chance of missing it, and B.) If you’re racing/ aggressive street riding/ emergency stopping/ honestly every type of riding there’s no NEED to rev match. Rev matching is to get into a lower gear to accelerate, or for the badass sound. Zero performance gain or extra wear on the clutch for deceleration. Rev matching actually hinders deceleration. So why not use 4 fingers for added control of the pressure. 6 piston brakes don’t add grip to tires, but they sure do increase stopping performance because you can control the pressure way more precisely. Same logic.
Alot of motocross has me doing 2 fingers all the time, even on my harley.
I have big hands and grew riding motorcycles with long levers, short levers makes me feel I'm riding mountain bikes without pedaling.😅
I used to have a hydraulic clutch set up for my dirt bikes. Was a legit 2 finger pull.
Idk if it's something for street bikes.
Yeah there is. Gixxer moved briefly to it before returning to cable clutch.
I’ve cut my stock levers and then re shaped it with dremel tool, some fine sanding and voila
They need to come up with better longer levers I like the design of the short levers but I prefer the stock length of the levers
Yeah just laid a bike down in a corner and lost my entire front brake lever. Bit of a hairy ride home lol
Is not problem...I always train my 2 fingers 😳😎
Im in the uk and prefer apico and as3 performance levers 👍
Yeah I crashed once on my left side and my oem clutch lever completely snapped off. I hand to launch the bike into 1st by pulling on the clutch cable and it worked lmao. I ran every red light cuz I couldn't afford to stop but all was good
Its good, but my ocd would be bothered by different lengths
Short brake, long clutch life!! REPRESENT
What? I never clutch with 4 fingers O.o
Only moment i used 4 is when i struggle to get into neutral (which is rare)
My clutch is quite easy to pull tho
I have so much more control with 4 fingers, on the track I use two though
I feel like it variés bike to bike and person to person
@@blizzthebike really? Thats a rare occurrence
Whenever i try to use 4 finger, my palm doesn't feel that stable on the grip and i make small movements that make me shift horribly
But yeah it heavily depends on bike and rider. My riding instructor told me to only use 4 so the clutch lever could be fully pulled or sth
My friend has a ducati 848 with a heavy ass clutch. He uses 3-4 fingers cause its too fatiguing with 2
@@someguy9520 Heh, I was taught to only use 2, using 4 fingers is something you might do for the first month of riding though.
@@MotoDash1100 another proof where it depends on the person/instructor et
Funnily i never used 4 fingers, even when instructed to
Coming from MTB and road cycling, 1-2 fingers max for best brake modulations it just made more sense
Gonna be honest, just use less hard springs in your clutch and go for the shorter lever.
Great point actually
Does the short clutch is good for beginners. For me it's good for beginners
Yes but stunt bike 👀 RSC 1 finger clutch lever🕺🏾🕺🏾
2 finger brake, 2 finger clutch. Never been a fan of the long levers. 2 seasons in and no crashes yet 🤞
I'd rather have full size levers that fold, kinda solves that whole problem. I have shortys on my tuono, and wanna swap them back to full size. My RSV have CRG full carbon fiber levers and will have guards
With a hydraulic clutch it doesn’t really matter
I may be a different case with my years of climbing and grip strength training. But, I two finger my clutch and my fingers never get tired in traffic.
I don't climb or train grip strength, absolutely no problem using 2 fingers
Everyone wants short levers until they actually need a handful of brakes in an emergency. Then wish they had full length ones.
If you need a handful to brake then your just a squid 🦑 and panicking , i one finger my clutch and brake the entire time I’m out riding. There’s never a moment West I need to grab my front brake lever entirely cause my 1 finger applies the same pressure my entire hand would smh
not once, what sort of a boomer made up scenario is that?
Brake lever guards not there for when you crash, they are there for when you are racing and it stops another riders bike in close racing coming in contact with your brake lever and making your brakes coming on. Just ask Simoncelli about them!
I said the guard is to decrease chances of anything brushing against the brake lever. Do you have a hard time hearing?
Real racing levers have a hole in end, it snaps on impact and the hole allows air through so levers don't slightly apply. But any way short lever or long lever is personal!, Never noticed a short lever in WSBK, MotoGP or BSB.
As a motorized bicycle rider... Agreed
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Race bikes do not have short levers. It reduces feel.
Yeah, and you’d want much leverage as well to reduce the effort needed to brake hard while racing as well
4F grip on clutch doesn't work on bumpy roads or up hills, atleast 1-2 fingers to maintain the right pressure.
I fell and broke my brake lever at the tip where the notch was designed. I also broke the hand guard and the indicator… and the bar end . And my rib.
I prefer both levers to be short, but I work with my hands for a living, so I'm not a puss when it comes down to hand strength.
I was waiting for the Gixxer part😅
I got adjustable levers and I use long break and short clutch lever because I like to short with 2 Fingers only
Aftermarket clutch levers are the best. Cant even feel it in your fingers
Being born with small hand, i can comfortably grip short leavers with 4 fingers 😆
I have a slipper clutch so it doesnt matter how many fingers i use but thanks!
it wont hurt my clutch just using 2 fingers, not bringing clutch to handle right?
Nice nice
Bro how do you get to many bikes
I shift two fingers on the street. Looking for something that doesn’t bust my knuckles lol or adjust bite point but I don’t know how🤣🤣
Same
I use the single finger clutch levers and normal brake levers
He is like the person who says " mobile phone", for an iphone.
He could have said my "apprila"... just "my sport bike"....😊
Been using a 2 finger clutch on my street bike since ever
Have you ever had any problem lever hitting the fairing? And you think they’ll fit the 660?
😂 this dude can only be for minion riders!!
You hold your clutch in on the street?
I don’t like using all my fingers. I need two finger grip like I have done with bmx my whole life. 😂
I rode shorties on both sides and never had a fatigue issue
Short clutch long brake you'll never slow down enough with 2 fingers when your life depends on it
Man give us your hair care
I always just use 2 fingers for my clutch no matter what.
Aren’t impaktec shorty levers smooth like butter so your forearm doesn’t get all worked out too much
Wait, you slow down in traffic?
I always hold the clutch with 2 fingers
Me riding on my underbone with no clutch lever : 🤷♂️
Can I use in cruiser bike?
Both my levers bend upwards in the case that it goes down.
Unfortunately you don’t get to choose what side you fall on…