Been thinking about BDiablos build a lot and focused too much on building around Partbreaker that I didn't even think about building for Burst instead. Good stuff!
That's right. We can never escape mathematics. 😆 Because of your video, I remembered Pokemon tournaments that utilizes math where the competitors have a pen and paper to calculate the damage, heals, buffs, etc they can deal to a target to make sure their turn will be as effective as possible. 🥳
Great vid! Currently, maxed out my normal blos bow. Still having difficulty with rank 9 blos quest... Now, need to consider bblos bow... Another tough grind😅
Im building toward Focus 1, Burst 2, Critical Eye 4, Wex 2. I feel like eliminating the negative affinity or even tilting it to the positive side is really valuable. Its 50% increase in damage from -ve to +ve affinity. Considering its unrealistic to always hit the weak spot, pulling up the damage in non-weak spot shouldnt be overlooked, especially in 8+ star monsters when they are all in berserk mode
I have been able to beat a 8 star girros using BD Bow 6 1/5 with shots to the head and build is atk boost 2, rising tide 3, focus 2, burst 2. Have not been able to even do much to a kulu annoying little thing but honestly feels really good luving this bow probably my favourite weapon so far and also tested with part breaker 5 it is very fun recommended for lower star lvl monsters comparative to your bow so works better on a 5 star oppose to 6 star but it does work you just need the dmg so making sure you beat timer and hitting almost on point. For some reason I can get out 3 special shots so long as the first one is available at the start so not sure that's for all of you that use the bow. I am disappointed I didn't record the fight where I beat the girros but hopefully I see one again and can do it like I did this time. But yeah that's my build.
It seems like Zinogre Helm and Legs gave Burst 1 each. You could swap out the Helm with the Zinogre helm for Burst 4 and Focus 3, or add the Zinogre legs for Burst 5 but only Focus 2. If only there was a Chest piece with Focus 2...... Also - isn't Focus generally better since you fire shots off faster? It may not be the damage potential, but maintaining the DPS that could be the key. At any rate, appreciate the video mate!
hmm yeah i get what you mean. but the thing about bblos bow is that you already save time by not having to charge it up all the way. not too sure if focus 2 will be enough. Will have to give it a go to know!
@shawnzyplays it seems with both Zinogre Helm and Legs the total Focus is only one (1), as only the Chest (Pukei or Pink Rathian) has Focus 1 whilst the Helm, Gloves, Waist and Legs have Burst. Looks like I should leave the math (and YouTubing) to you Shawnzy!
Hi Shawnzy, giving the Azure rathalos is coming, do you think it is good to correct the -30% affinity to 0%, and the build like that? Azure Rathalos Helmet Pink Rathian Mail Rathian Vambrace Pink Rathian Core Kulu Greaves Focus 3/Affinity 0%(from -30%)/Burst 2 need your help to calculate it is really worth to correct the affinity from -30% to 0%.
It's good! But if you want to, you can also ignore the negative affinity and go with focus 5 burst 3. That is slightly better(even after accounting for the negative crit) Azure rath helm Pukei/pink rathian chest Rathian gloves Rathian coil Jyura boots
Idk what Niantic was smoking when they designed this bow but the more I think about it, the more incredibly strong it seems compared to other weapons currently in the game. Does it actually get the full special charge rate on charge 3? Because I think that’s something to consider when calculating the dps of this bow
Only issue is that it’s a bow. Usually takes me 7 seconds to slay a 5* monster with a g5 gunlance, but takes me 40 seconds to slay the same monster with g5 galebender. It could just be skill issue I guess.
Love the vid. I too crunched these numbers. What's missing is: you didn't show any math for "attack speed" or in this case "focus". (It's very hard to assign factual numbers here because "Focus" is in the form of a % and is not assigned a specific "time value") I too found that Burst > Affinity But using estimations I also "estimated" that focus (attack speed) > everything else! This doesn't mean I'm right. It's "time" to ditch the estamations and assign an actual time value to a base charge and each level of focus so we can get some real maths going. Thanks Shawnzy!
Yea the calculations on focus in terms of time taken to charge and all are done by stampeder and Joseph. They're the real math dudes. I just make lame videos.
how do you aim farther parts of the monster? i can only aim up to 30% in the middle of the monster, same with bowgun, i want to aim the tips like wings but can only hit it when they are down or flying, when they raise their wings i cannot aim very high even with gyro and try to reset
You know how you could charge-evade(some calls it charge sidestep)? After a perfect evade, if you were to tap and hold, you will start the animation for charging. Just like how you would do a charge-evade, you can charge and sidestep from that point. Perfect evade -> tap and hold to start charging -> charge-evade so it looks like im sliding around twice before shooting, but actually its not :)
oh hey, saw your comment in another video. this was my reply -> do you use any other bow? glove to g6 gives you another option to play around with focus. I would rather you do that for now
Im wondering would a Part breaker 5 build be strong. I know that breaking part deals a certain extra damage, but Im not sure if that unknown amount of damage is worth the trade-off with general fire power
Rising tide 2 gives 50 attack at 25s and another 50 at 50s. so you get 50attack from 25s to 75s(50s) and another 50 from 50s to 75s(25s). On average, you get 50 attack throughout the hunt. 50 div 0.25(crit chance from wex) div 0.25(crit dmg) = 800. Anything above 800, you're better off with wex 2.
@@shawnzyplays some things like girros and kulu have too small hit boxes though, even if you sim it perfectly half the shots will be past the weak spot
@@shawnzyplays yeah I think this nerf hits black diablos bow specifically more than other current pierce bows. Electric is still good against wings, and fire is still good against wings/jagras belly… spread is also getting hit for the same reason as pierce but also spread has a way shorter critical range so the range nerf will hit it hard. IMO rapid comes out a winner with a fire speed buff and the other nerfs don’t hurt it too bad. Which is lame to me because it’s the easiest one to use in the first place and they said they’re trying to emphasize skillful gameplay… I think the nerfs won’t hurt poison/the pukei bow much which is what most people are complaining about I think. People will still cry OP and the bow will get nerfed again in a few months time. I think if they want to change poison, they should make the poison elemental value affect the damage so you have to invest some armor skills into it to do the same damage.
Does anyone know if burst duration (4 sec) is long enough to charge the bow to lv 4 and fire assuming we have focus 3 and we charge right after burst is activated? I want to know if it is physically possible to proc burst on a charge lv 4 shot as I most shots were charged to level 3 in the video
Actually the smart guys tested it and said that it is actually better not to use powershot. Just charge and fire! I tried to do it but I've been using powershot since my first bow in mhn. It's really hard to switch so sometimes I'll still fire powershot
@ganonbarfYT something about how powershot animation is not affected by focus and with that time you probably can charge and fire off another charge lv 3 shot. Sorry I'm not too sure about the details but those guys really go into the frames and all. It's too much for my smooth brain
Nope! Rising tide 2 gives on avg 50 attack. Wex gives more(indirectly). But it's a good idea since you don't hit weak spots all the time ... hmmm thanks for the idea !!
@bakajelly2698 heroics and guts build is not something you want to use at all times. Each time u use it you'll end the hunt either in a fail, or with 1 hp. It'll be great to use for urgent quests tho
@@AdityaYadav-dw1hd zinogre's waist has artful dodger and reload speed.. that doesn't do much for bow too. The helm and boots on the other hand, has burst!
Nah. According to harvard university's calculations, this " mathematical" ( math ) equation is neither appropriate, nor relevant. [ neither...nor... ] . Mary has 6 apples. So, u said mary has 6 apples and gave away 2 ipads.. Ipad (I) and apple (a/A) is not linked. So , we will have to link them. AI--Artificial intelligence. A is apple and I is ipad. There we go, we linked it.(( Linked _ past tense. )) so AI is a ( no life ) version of human . AKA. you or||and me.
Durian is D. We all eat durians. Right?.. durian = mao shan wang-----simplified equation->s=msw. Msw = Msg². My girl loves eating msg all day. She got kidney problem and died. ( urs too no offense. )
Today i went to cap com store and there was supposed to be all monsters but only the new ones , rathian, rathalos and kulu-yaku ( also palico ) . Mh now damn popular
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Been thinking about BDiablos build a lot and focused too much on building around Partbreaker that I didn't even think about building for Burst instead. Good stuff!
Just when you thought you're done with school and you can enjoy a Shawnzy video. HECK NO I'm Asian so no rest for you. Let's do some math!
That's right. We can never escape mathematics. 😆
Because of your video, I remembered Pokemon tournaments that utilizes math where the competitors have a pen and paper to calculate the damage, heals, buffs, etc they can deal to a target to make sure their turn will be as effective as possible. 🥳
@@shindenxxxx damn that's really next level. Lol
@@shawnzyplays true. I can't believe it myself when I've watched that video of the tournament 😅
Great vid! Currently, maxed out my normal blos bow. Still having difficulty with rank 9 blos quest... Now, need to consider bblos bow... Another tough grind😅
Heroics is the way~
Im building toward Focus 1, Burst 2, Critical Eye 4, Wex 2. I feel like eliminating the negative affinity or even tilting it to the positive side is really valuable. Its 50% increase in damage from -ve to +ve affinity. Considering its unrealistic to always hit the weak spot, pulling up the damage in non-weak spot shouldnt be overlooked, especially in 8+ star monsters when they are all in berserk mode
As long as the monster's attack window is under control
So different monster requires different focus for extreme time record clears
With new armors you can make focus 1 burst 4 or focus 2 burst 4
I have been able to beat a 8 star girros using BD Bow 6 1/5 with shots to the head and build is atk boost 2, rising tide 3, focus 2, burst 2. Have not been able to even do much to a kulu annoying little thing but honestly feels really good luving this bow probably my favourite weapon so far and also tested with part breaker 5 it is very fun recommended for lower star lvl monsters comparative to your bow so works better on a 5 star oppose to 6 star but it does work you just need the dmg so making sure you beat timer and hitting almost on point. For some reason I can get out 3 special shots so long as the first one is available at the start so not sure that's for all of you that use the bow. I am disappointed I didn't record the fight where I beat the girros but hopefully I see one again and can do it like I did this time. But yeah that's my build.
It seems like Zinogre Helm and Legs gave Burst 1 each. You could swap out the Helm with the Zinogre helm for Burst 4 and Focus 3, or add the Zinogre legs for Burst 5 but only Focus 2.
If only there was a Chest piece with Focus 2......
Also - isn't Focus generally better since you fire shots off faster? It may not be the damage potential, but maintaining the DPS that could be the key.
At any rate, appreciate the video mate!
hmm yeah i get what you mean. but the thing about bblos bow is that you already save time by not having to charge it up all the way. not too sure if focus 2 will be enough. Will have to give it a go to know!
@shawnzyplays it seems with both Zinogre Helm and Legs the total Focus is only one (1), as only the Chest (Pukei or Pink Rathian) has Focus 1 whilst the Helm, Gloves, Waist and Legs have Burst.
Looks like I should leave the math (and YouTubing) to you Shawnzy!
@@user-if9jy9ws1r and I shall leave the math to the actual smart ones! I'm just a regular player tbh lol
Hi Shawnzy, giving the Azure rathalos is coming, do you think it is good to correct the -30% affinity to 0%, and the build like that?
Azure Rathalos Helmet
Pink Rathian Mail
Rathian Vambrace
Pink Rathian Core
Kulu Greaves
Focus 3/Affinity 0%(from -30%)/Burst 2
need your help to calculate it is really worth to correct the affinity from -30% to 0%.
It's good! But if you want to, you can also ignore the negative affinity and go with focus 5 burst 3. That is slightly better(even after accounting for the negative crit)
Azure rath helm
Pukei/pink rathian chest
Rathian gloves
Rathian coil
Jyura boots
Idk what Niantic was smoking when they designed this bow but the more I think about it, the more incredibly strong it seems compared to other weapons currently in the game. Does it actually get the full special charge rate on charge 3? Because I think that’s something to consider when calculating the dps of this bow
Yeah if you were to shoot a charge lv 4 shot, the pierce 4 dmg is exactly the same for a charge lv 3 shot pierce 4 dmg.
Only issue is that it’s a bow. Usually takes me 7 seconds to slay a 5* monster with a g5 gunlance, but takes me 40 seconds to slay the same monster with g5 galebender. It could just be skill issue I guess.
For me, I would like to go with focus 5 and burst 2. More speed more shot
yes.. safety is everything
Love the vid. I too crunched these numbers.
What's missing is: you didn't show any math for "attack speed" or in this case "focus". (It's very hard to assign factual numbers here because "Focus" is in the form of a % and is not assigned a specific "time value")
I too found that Burst > Affinity
But using estimations I also "estimated" that focus (attack speed) > everything else!
This doesn't mean I'm right. It's "time" to ditch the estamations and assign an actual time value to a base charge and each level of focus so we can get some real maths going.
Thanks Shawnzy!
Yea the calculations on focus in terms of time taken to charge and all are done by stampeder and Joseph. They're the real math dudes. I just make lame videos.
@shawnzyplays any new black diablos bow update? make new video?
how do you aim farther parts of the monster? i can only aim up to 30% in the middle of the monster, same with bowgun, i want to aim the tips like wings but can only hit it when they are down or flying, when they raise their wings i cannot aim very high even with gyro and try to reset
Is your gyro set to semi or full? In a hunt, look at the top right corner of the screen. Make sure to tap it to change it to full
Please come back!!!!
How did you double dodge?
A perfect evade, then another perfect evade before taking another shot?
You know how you could charge-evade(some calls it charge sidestep)?
After a perfect evade, if you were to tap and hold, you will start the animation for charging. Just like how you would do a charge-evade, you can charge and sidestep from that point.
Perfect evade -> tap and hold to start charging -> charge-evade
so it looks like im sliding around twice before shooting, but actually its not :)
can i ask what shd i do first now my bow B. Diablos 8-1
B. Diablos to 8-2 or build glove 6-1 for focus 1
oh hey, saw your comment in another video. this was my reply -> do you use any other bow? glove to g6 gives you another option to play around with focus. I would rather you do that for now
No one noticed the writings on the white board :(
is this viable with regular diablos bow too ? or focus 5 is better for charge 4 shot ?
oh no dont go for burst for regular diablos bow since that uses rapid and this bow uses pierce..
Is there any update on this with the zinogre armor?
Yessir glad you asked. I've JUSSSSST posted a vid on that right here th-cam.com/video/7gVToKwGmoo/w-d-xo.html
I was like thinking, ehhhh didnt i click dont want see this and dont recommend. How come i still see the channel in my feed.
LOLOLOLOLOL
how dare you!!! u need to watch 5 more times to make up for your mistake.
Im wondering would a Part breaker 5 build be strong. I know that breaking part deals a certain extra damage, but Im not sure if that unknown amount of damage is worth the trade-off with general fire power
hmm? breaking a part doesnt deal any extra dmg iirc.
Partbreaker would be cool in a build like in sunbreak, where there’s a skill that gives you life steal when attacking broken parts.
At what attack values does WEX 2 becomes more valuable than Rising Tide 2 (from Jagras chest)?
Rising tide 2 gives 50 attack at 25s and another 50 at 50s. so you get 50attack from 25s to 75s(50s) and another 50 from 50s to 75s(25s). On average, you get 50 attack throughout the hunt. 50 div 0.25(crit chance from wex) div 0.25(crit dmg) = 800. Anything above 800, you're better off with wex 2.
Won't this bow be nerfed when Dec update drops? (All Pierce bows)
Yeah if you're ass like me at aiming lol. For the real pros out there, it wouldn't affect them that much since they could hit weak spots all the time.
*The Barroth laughing at the black diablos bow 😎
@@shawnzyplays some things like girros and kulu have too small hit boxes though, even if you sim it perfectly half the shots will be past the weak spot
@EbiLMunkeY yeah kulu especially ...
@@shawnzyplays yeah I think this nerf hits black diablos bow specifically more than other current pierce bows. Electric is still good against wings, and fire is still good against wings/jagras belly… spread is also getting hit for the same reason as pierce but also spread has a way shorter critical range so the range nerf will hit it hard.
IMO rapid comes out a winner with a fire speed buff and the other nerfs don’t hurt it too bad. Which is lame to me because it’s the easiest one to use in the first place and they said they’re trying to emphasize skillful gameplay…
I think the nerfs won’t hurt poison/the pukei bow much which is what most people are complaining about I think. People will still cry OP and the bow will get nerfed again in a few months time. I think if they want to change poison, they should make the poison elemental value affect the damage so you have to invest some armor skills into it to do the same damage.
for 90% of your shots you have no uptime of burst. thats why i go ce 5 wex 5 ele 5
Hmm? Why do you say that? Also, burst only works for raw so you're right to go for ele 5(assuming you're using ele weapons)
I found focus 4/burst3/latent power 2
Does anyone know if burst duration (4 sec) is long enough to charge the bow to lv 4 and fire assuming we have focus 3 and we charge right after burst is activated? I want to know if it is physically possible to proc burst on a charge lv 4 shot as I most shots were charged to level 3 in the video
On bblos bow? Why would you want to go to lv 4 charge tho
Bro reminds me of my math teacher, nostalgic LOL
And you didn't do your homework again right??? Do the times table 5 times!
@@shawnzyplays sorry Cher the dog ate my homework 🐶
@@chiangyt94 why did you eat your homework
@@shawnzyplays cb HAHAHA how you know I born in the year of dog?
Have you tested out the DPS without using powershot?
Actually the smart guys tested it and said that it is actually better not to use powershot. Just charge and fire! I tried to do it but I've been using powershot since my first bow in mhn. It's really hard to switch so sometimes I'll still fire powershot
@@shawnzyplays can you share their math?! i'm curious about this as well
@ganonbarfYT something about how powershot animation is not affected by focus and with that time you probably can charge and fire off another charge lv 3 shot. Sorry I'm not too sure about the details but those guys really go into the frames and all. It's too much for my smooth brain
@ganonbarfYT I'm sorry I disappointed you again dad. :(
@@shawnzyplays that's interesting, i def wanna look into that more
i think your description was good, thanks mang :]
Mother fucking number blocks!! I’m dead 🤣💀
1 and another 1 is 2. And another one is 3(that's me)~
@@shawnzyplays You slay me dawgie keep it up! 🤣
@braxwhitney keep a lookout for more in future videos. I'm sure I can somehow squeeze in cocomelon, ms Rachel, teletubbies and pororo.
Why not charging it to 4 lvl? I see you usually charge to 2 ( eg in diablos fight , although diablos is a pain in the butt for archers )
For black diablos bow, charge 3 shot and charge 4 shot both fires off pierce lv 4. So you don't need to be fully charged to deal the max dmg
sifu tried with rising tide lvl 2 ??
Nope! Rising tide 2 gives on avg 50 attack. Wex gives more(indirectly).
But it's a good idea since you don't hit weak spots all the time ... hmmm thanks for the idea !!
I thought since we going on 2nd charge most the time might aswell go full dmg if somehow can put heroic guts burst and focus
@bakajelly2698 heroics and guts build is not something you want to use at all times. Each time u use it you'll end the hunt either in a fail, or with 1 hp. It'll be great to use for urgent quests tho
@@shawnzyplays i mean ya la if u rich why not 🤣🤣
Heroic 2 guts 2 burst 2 focus 3 🤣🤣🤣
is ignoring the -30% affinity wrong? i just ignored the affinity and focus on attack boost
Nothing is ever wrong as long as you have fun. Play however you want to.
I ignored the negative affinity and went with focus and burst.
So zinogre mail is better for this bow now
mail as in chest piece? hmm no... that does nothing for the bow..
@@shawnzyplays oh my bad... I meant waist 😅
@@AdityaYadav-dw1hd zinogre's waist has artful dodger and reload speed.. that doesn't do much for bow too.
The helm and boots on the other hand, has burst!
nah that math 2 easy, shawn gimme more my best subject is math,bud
If Mary has 6 apples and gives away 2 iPads, how many durians does she have now and how many ex gf does her current bf has
@@shawnzyplays bro
Nah. According to harvard university's calculations, this " mathematical" ( math ) equation is neither appropriate, nor relevant. [ neither...nor... ] . Mary has 6 apples. So, u said mary has 6 apples and gave away 2 ipads.. Ipad (I) and apple (a/A) is not linked. So , we will have to link them. AI--Artificial intelligence. A is apple and I is ipad. There we go, we linked it.(( Linked _ past tense. )) so AI is a ( no life ) version of human . AKA. you or||and me.
Durian is D. We all eat durians. Right?.. durian = mao shan wang-----simplified equation->s=msw. Msw = Msg². My girl loves eating msg all day. She got kidney problem and died. ( urs too no offense. )
In ohio, we have MSG[UNCLE ROGER FAVOURITE SHIT] .so we have -2 girl friends and we have durian ².
As a fellow Asian I'm trash at math.. All I know is pew pew and bang bang. 🤷♂
I only know basic calculation and I'm lucky to be among smart people who are great at calculating stuff!
To bad I killed 11 black diablos and didn’t get a single primescale🥲
I’ve slain 25 total black diablos, mainly 5 and 6 star, and I have 6 marrows and 0 primeshells ever. This game hates me.
its ok the next bblos event is coming in like 3 weeks time.
Isn’t a regular diablos bow with heroics 5 better….. can a 8.1 regular diablos with suicide heroics/guts beat all 8 stars still?….
U can't compare heroics diablos vs non heroic bblos. Bblos is pretty good and you can also utilize heroic build for it
rip bow
Yo shawn, in japan MH now had this family mart free reward thingg
whats that? :( Japan has all the cool stuff
It requires u to AR the family mart whatevet then it gives u a 1000 zenny and 1 first aid med, pretty useless but better than nothing lol.
Today i went to cap com store and there was supposed to be all monsters but only the new ones , rathian, rathalos and kulu-yaku ( also palico ) . Mh now damn popular
@Palico55 it's free stuff man... give it to me!
black 😈 bow
Even demon slayer hunts it!
Why math when you can just go on field and screw them 😂
ok sir lets not screw anything in this family friend christian channel.