Of Behringer's new line of synths I have the DM12D, Model D, Crave, & Neutron. The Deepmind is by far the most fun of all of these synths IMO, it sounds really great especially for the price that I got it at. I bought R angle audio and power chords so that I could put it on my rack. I love that Behringer is doing inexpensive remakes of classic synths that many of us have drooled over for years, but I look forward to more of their original synths like Deepmind and Neutron.
Really great video. I don't know why some people don't like the presets, there are some absolute beuties in there! I've just bought the deepmind 6, and I think its an awesome instrument, especially the effects. Its deep but quick to program too. And you get a lot for your money!
@@welshsynthesizerlabs6552 yes indeed - we live in wonderful times, there are some great new innovative synths out there - I think some of the older companies should not underestimate the likes of Arturia, Synthstrom, Behringer etc - It seems the smaller agile companies are out-gunning the old guard more often than not!
Seeing your poly 61 makes me miss my poly61m. I have the dm6 and will be getting the dm12d. Great synths. Great video. (Edited for fat fingered spell errors haha)
A Gob-O-fun synth that may take time to master, but you'll enjoy the journey. I'm just at the point of buying the ticket and considering the trip.. Cheers!
I love my DM12, but I definitely think that factory patches are mostly horrible. There are just a few nice and usable patches in Bank A. The rest of them, are pure cr*p. But, come on, we can always find a way to make our own patches :)
Do you have a list of those 19 unique patches? If all the other patches in Bank A are located elsewhere, I may want to clear them all out to leave space in Bank A for my own patches.
@@han1218 I believe that if you initialize a patch it is dry. The patches are cool by themselves but too many aren’t musically useful. It needs a bank of bread and butter sounds.
I haven't played the Grandmother, but I have 3 other Moog's here and it sounds totally different. If by "mellow" you kinda mean that sort of 70's, high-resonance, creamy, "lucky man" by ELP sound, then you want to go with a Moog. If, on the other hand, you're talking about a kind of Vangellis, "new agey", CS-80ish kind of mellow then I'd say go with the Deepmind. I guess I'd be more inclined to describe the Moog sound as "mellow" and the Deepmind as "dreamy", but of course mellow and dreamy overlap. Which one I'd go for also depends greatly on what synths you already have. If you don't have many, or any, then definitely go for the Deepmind, as it will be more versatile. If you're already chin-deep in synths, then you may get more out of a Moog, as any Moog will have more punch while the Deepmind can at times be somewhat thin sounding. If you want to put together a hardware setup that gives you the most bang for the buck, I'd go Bass Station II on bass, Deepmind for pads/harmony, any Moog on lead, and after buying those three get a Minibrute to help on leads and also for detail work an octave above the Moog lead. Just my 2 cents.
Man oh man. This is about the 9th video I've seen of this synth and I haven't heard any REAL WORLD sounds ! Where is the desert island B3 or electric piano sounds ??? I'm looking for a keyboard to play Beatles, Allmans, Bad Co, Stevie Wonder, etc Not looking to write a movie score. Any suggestions ?
There are a few too many “one-key wonders” in the presets. They sound cool but don’t always have practical utility. The effects engine placed over what is largely a Juno-106 does, at times, “gild the lily”. I love the Deepmind, but a more faithful clone of the 106 would be welcome.
It’s probably the best value of any synth on the market. People would probably embrace it more if they knew that it is essentially a Juno 106 clone with some extras added on.
a brilliant demo of what a synth rearly sounds like, demode by playing actual lead and bass solos which for me is the only way you can rearly tell what a synth actarly sounds like . which is not possable by simply playing one note and just twidderling the knobs, and looking at oscilliscope pictures, for me when you do that all synths sound exactly the same
gevansmd1 There may be but I don’t know off hand if there is. It’s a lot of “one key wonders”. They’re cool but a bank of standard basses and leads would be nice.
@@gevansmd1 There are pretty decent piano sounds at 58:14 and at 59:44 , however those aren't good enough, then keep in mind that there are quite a few excellent soundsets for the DeepMind that various sound designers are selling. (*) Have a listen to them all with good headphones or through good studio monitors. You may find a decent piano sound in one of the packages, or a preset that you can tweak to get it in the ballpark. Realistically, analog symths aren't ideal for creating reasonably authentic piano sounds....usually piano samples are the best...but if an analogue synth can get there, it's because the sound designer has used cross-modulation, which is like FM that the Yamaha DX7 uses. Last, the DeepMind has a lot of banks for storing custom presets, so you may find that you want to purchase some of the Soundsets you hear. You would have to overwrite the ones Behringer provides, so back them up first. This video is awesome, because you'll know which of the manufacturer's presets you probably wouldn't use. (*) "GEOsynths" has three different soundsets available, each with around 100 custom sounds. They are very creative & make great use of the mod matrix, effects, and mod wheels. "AnalogueAudio1" has two soundsets that have excellent 'bread & butter' presets that will be useful & inspirational. Some of them are beautiful replications of old 1970s string synths. "Alba Ecstacy", "PBsonic" are two others with good soundsets. There are more soundsets out there, but those four are a great place to start. Hope this helps. ☺
"but if an analogue synth can get there, it's because the sound designer has used cross-modulation, which is like FM that the Yamaha DX7 uses" Absolutely. I stumbled on a fairly realistic piano patch on a Minilogue that honestly took me by surprise. It used cross modulation.
You can use the program browser to find similar presets according to your taste by pressing the the program button and rotary control, you can find this in the manual under paragraph 4.2.2 Using the Program Browser . Maybe this can help, it is a fantastic machine to discover and love it. Once had all the gear from 80's including the juno106 that was the base for this one but so much more
The DeepMind is more versatile and definitely more lush sounding, largely thanks to the effects. The Poly 61 has a brighter sound, likely due to one of its oscillators being a 4-bit counter rather than DCO. The stair-stepped shape of the sawtooth and sharp transition of the square produce lots of higher harmonics. The Poly 61 excels in leads and the DeepMind in strings and pads.
Welsh Synthesizer Labs thanks for the explanation. I own a novation lineup (BS2, Mininova, Circuit and Circuit MonoStation and I am looking for something analogue polyphonic hw to make some nice shimmering pads since the small Novation hardwares are good enough for lead and bass stuff but not so strong for pads.. It seems I should hunt down a DM12 soon. One question, heard in many tests that the keybed sucks. Is it really that bad or it is okay compared to a mid-low pricerange synth. (Just to decide if the rack or the keyboard version should i look for..) ? Nice demo, thanks for the upload.
I feel that the keybed is fine. The System-8 has a crap keybed. Compared to that, the DM12 keybed is five stars. The DM12 keybed is average. Not the best but not bad either.
If you own a Behringer DeepMind 12 or 6 I re-created the original factory presets of a Juno-106 that you can load into it! th-cam.com/video/kLCo1tTiVjc/w-d-xo.html
I see you love the key of G and Gm. Once in a while you play in C with an occasional F chord. There are 21 key signatures you completely ignored. Having said that your video was a main reason I am buying one next month.
He is demoing the sounds and not his skills ! héhé.... :'( and he was succesfull as you bought te DM12. Fortunately i did not make this demo, it would all be in C ........ LOL
If everyone that loved synths had to know music theory and classical music scales or even jazz chops before taking up this fantastic hobby then the synth industry would be finished and most of those 70s and 80s synth pioneers would have had to endure a 9 to 5 in a dead beat job instead of becoming rich and famous. No doubt Mozart or Beethoven would be looking down at your own wonderful playing and waving their finger in horror.
Just bought one of these given the current price drop. Thanks for the great demonstration post. 🎼👍🇺🇸
Of Behringer's new line of synths I have the DM12D, Model D, Crave, & Neutron. The Deepmind is by far the most fun of all of these synths IMO, it sounds really great especially for the price that I got it at. I bought R angle audio and power chords so that I could put it on my rack. I love that Behringer is doing inexpensive remakes of classic synths that many of us have drooled over for years, but I look forward to more of their original synths like Deepmind and Neutron.
try the BS2 .
One of the best factory patch demos I’ve seen, thank you for taking the time to do this 😎👍🏽
Thanks man! Glad you like it! There will be more soon.
@@welshsynthesizerlabs6552 I'll 2nd that, exactly how running through a bank should be, thank you.
Some great patches on this synth. Thanks for going through them.
I keep coming back to this.
I sold my dm6 and got the dm12 and the behr odyssey.
Great synths.
Sounds great. Thanks for the demonstration.
Really great video. I don't know why some people don't like the presets, there are some absolute beuties in there! I've just bought the deepmind 6, and I think its an awesome instrument, especially the effects. Its deep but quick to program too. And you get a lot for your money!
All the Behringer synths cost about half of what I expect them to.
@@welshsynthesizerlabs6552 yes indeed - we live in wonderful times, there are some great new innovative synths out there - I think some of the older companies should not underestimate the likes of Arturia, Synthstrom, Behringer etc - It seems the smaller agile companies are out-gunning the old guard more often than not!
It great sound, became the DM12, the most important synthesis class even given! Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Seeing your poly 61 makes me miss my poly61m. I have the dm6 and will be getting the dm12d. Great synths. Great video. (Edited for fat fingered spell errors haha)
5:00 best patch and melody!!!! 😍😍😍
Nice sounds, great keyboard
Nice demo of the factory patches.
Thanks! Which instrument should I demo next?
EMS VCS3
That would be nice!
A Gob-O-fun synth that may take time to master, but you'll enjoy the journey. I'm just at the point of buying the ticket and considering the trip.. Cheers!
Long live analog!
I love stuff! :D
I love my DM12, but I definitely think that factory patches are mostly horrible. There are just a few nice and usable patches in Bank A. The rest of them, are pure cr*p. But, come on, we can always find a way to make our own patches :)
What bank A patches do you recommend to keep?
👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿
Love 80s
HOW MANY FACTORY SOUNDS IT HAS??
Almost all bank A consists of patches from other banks except 19 unique patches.
Do you have a list of those 19 unique patches? If all the other patches in Bank A are located elsewhere, I may want to clear them all out to leave space in Bank A for my own patches.
39:00 Adeste Fidelis!
What patch is at 01:00:10 ?? it reminds me Vangelis - Chariots of Fire
Most patches have a "metalic" sound to it. Maybe that's how Juno sounds too?
Juno’s can have a bright sound. Many of the Deepmind patches are very dependent on the effects section
@@welshsynthesizerlabs6552 thanks, maybe its better to just run it dry and add effects in the box.
@@han1218 I believe that if you initialize a patch it is dry. The patches are cool by themselves but too many aren’t musically useful. It needs a bank of bread and butter sounds.
if only this had chapters... sigh
How would this work with melodic, mellow, sounds. I havent found a sound yet, but would it compare to a moog grandmother possibly?
I haven't played the Grandmother, but I have 3 other Moog's here and it sounds totally different. If by "mellow" you kinda mean that sort of 70's, high-resonance, creamy, "lucky man" by ELP sound, then you want to go with a Moog. If, on the other hand, you're talking about a kind of Vangellis, "new agey", CS-80ish kind of mellow then I'd say go with the Deepmind. I guess I'd be more inclined to describe the Moog sound as "mellow" and the Deepmind as "dreamy", but of course mellow and dreamy overlap. Which one I'd go for also depends greatly on what synths you already have. If you don't have many, or any, then definitely go for the Deepmind, as it will be more versatile. If you're already chin-deep in synths, then you may get more out of a Moog, as any Moog will have more punch while the Deepmind can at times be somewhat thin sounding. If you want to put together a hardware setup that gives you the most bang for the buck, I'd go Bass Station II on bass, Deepmind for pads/harmony, any Moog on lead, and after buying those three get a Minibrute to help on leads and also for detail work an octave above the Moog lead. Just my 2 cents.
I just received dm today. Patches a24 a48 start playing alone, and i can't stop it. No a latch or sequenced preset... strange...
Yeah, I don't believe that should happen.
Man oh man. This is about the 9th video I've seen of this synth and I haven't heard any REAL WORLD sounds ! Where is the desert island B3 or electric piano sounds ???
I'm looking for a keyboard to play Beatles, Allmans, Bad Co, Stevie Wonder, etc Not looking to write a movie score. Any suggestions ?
If you like B3 or Electric Piano, find yourself a used DX7!
Kkkkk boa
sounds great but in a band you'd have to drop those effects levels way down as like most presets on synths if it has effects its drowning in it
There are a few too many “one-key wonders” in the presets. They sound cool but don’t always have practical utility. The effects engine placed over what is largely a Juno-106 does, at times, “gild the lily”. I love the Deepmind, but a more faithful clone of the 106 would be welcome.
@@welshsynthesizerlabs6552 this does way more than the Juno of course Creative spiral on TH-cam has a great set of 128 custom patches I love
What the fuck this synth is so underrated ? May be he is too affordable, to cheap ?
It’s probably the best value of any synth on the market. People would probably embrace it more if they knew that it is essentially a Juno 106 clone with some extras added on.
a brilliant demo of what a synth rearly sounds like, demode by playing actual lead and bass solos which for me is the only way you can rearly tell what a synth actarly sounds like . which is not possable by simply playing one note and just twidderling the knobs, and looking at oscilliscope pictures, for me when you do that all synths sound exactly the same
1:06:02 Tron Legacy theme?
I just bought one of these and there is no logic to the preset order. Is there an online list of all the factory presets?
gevansmd1 There may be but I don’t know off hand if there is. It’s a lot of “one key wonders”. They’re cool but a bank of standard basses and leads would be nice.
Thanks, I've been unable to find a list so far. I need to start writing down preset locations when I find obes I like. So far, no decent piano patch.
@@gevansmd1 There are pretty decent piano sounds at 58:14 and at 59:44 , however those aren't good enough, then keep in mind that there are quite a few excellent soundsets for the DeepMind that various sound designers are selling. (*) Have a listen to them all with good headphones or through good studio monitors. You may find a decent piano sound in one of the packages, or a preset that you can tweak to get it in the ballpark.
Realistically, analog symths aren't ideal for creating reasonably authentic piano sounds....usually piano samples are the best...but if an analogue synth can get there, it's because the sound designer has used cross-modulation, which is like FM that the Yamaha DX7 uses.
Last, the DeepMind has a lot of banks for storing custom presets, so you may find that you want to purchase some of the Soundsets you hear. You would have to overwrite the ones Behringer provides, so back them up first. This video is awesome, because you'll know which of the manufacturer's presets you probably wouldn't use.
(*) "GEOsynths" has three different soundsets available, each with around 100 custom sounds. They are very creative & make great use of the mod matrix, effects, and mod wheels.
"AnalogueAudio1" has two soundsets that have excellent 'bread & butter' presets that will be useful & inspirational. Some of them are beautiful replications of old 1970s string synths.
"Alba Ecstacy", "PBsonic" are two others with good soundsets.
There are more soundsets out there, but those four are a great place to start.
Hope this helps. ☺
"but if an analogue synth can get there, it's because the sound designer has used cross-modulation, which is like FM that the Yamaha DX7 uses"
Absolutely. I stumbled on a fairly realistic piano patch on a Minilogue that honestly took me by surprise. It used cross modulation.
You can use the program browser to find similar presets according to your taste by pressing the the program button and rotary control, you can find this in the manual under paragraph 4.2.2 Using the Program Browser . Maybe this can help, it is a fantastic machine to discover and love it. Once had all the gear from 80's including the juno106 that was the base for this one but so much more
Awesome video! Thanks. What’s the preset played in 7:45?
How would you compare it to the poly 61 you have below it?
The DeepMind is more versatile and definitely more lush sounding, largely thanks to the effects. The Poly 61 has a brighter sound, likely due to one of its oscillators being a 4-bit counter rather than DCO. The stair-stepped shape of the sawtooth and sharp transition of the square produce lots of higher harmonics. The Poly 61 excels in leads and the DeepMind in strings and pads.
Welsh Synthesizer Labs thanks for the explanation. I own a novation lineup (BS2, Mininova, Circuit and Circuit MonoStation and I am looking for something analogue polyphonic hw to make some nice shimmering pads since the small Novation hardwares are good enough for lead and bass stuff but not so strong for pads.. It seems I should hunt down a DM12 soon. One question, heard in many tests that the keybed sucks. Is it really that bad or it is okay compared to a mid-low pricerange synth. (Just to decide if the rack or the keyboard version should i look for..) ? Nice demo, thanks for the upload.
I feel that the keybed is fine. The System-8 has a crap keybed. Compared to that, the DM12 keybed is five stars. The DM12 keybed is average. Not the best but not bad either.
What's the patch at 26:50?
If you own a Behringer DeepMind 12 or 6 I re-created the original factory presets of a Juno-106 that you can load into it!
th-cam.com/video/kLCo1tTiVjc/w-d-xo.html
I see you love the key of G and Gm. Once in a while you play in C with an occasional F chord. There are 21 key signatures you completely ignored. Having said that your video was a main reason I am buying one next month.
He is demoing the sounds and not his skills ! héhé.... :'( and he was succesfull as you bought te DM12. Fortunately i did not make this demo, it would all be in C ........ LOL
If everyone that loved synths had to know music theory and classical music scales or even jazz chops before taking up this fantastic hobby then the synth industry would be finished and most of those 70s and 80s synth pioneers would have had to endure a 9 to 5 in a dead beat job instead of becoming rich and famous. No doubt Mozart or Beethoven would be looking down at your own wonderful playing and waving their finger in horror.
"Use what talents you possess; the woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - Henry Van Dyke
Over-modulated output hurts this demo
What do you mean by "over-modulated output"?
Horrible patches. They all sound like sailing the ocean blue. And a three hour tour.
i think the problem it's the performer!! not the instrument