“There comes a time in every girl’s life where she has to stop whining about her boyfriend’s zombie obsession and expect she has a weird taste in men” one of my favorite lines in the show
When people describe Pahkitew Island as the worst season, they're comparing it to the other seasons. As you said, Pahkitew Island took what Total Drama should be, and "threw it into a paper shredder". It's understandable why you like it, but that's (probably) the same reason as to why people dislike it.
Finally someone who likes this season. I personally loved your perspective on this chaotic season especially how you described Dave (I personally think he should return in a future season) and I really liked how you made me admire more things in the season like Beardo for example
@@BryanOmega6 Yea that is a possibly but it’s not directly confirmed. Remember this is a cartoon. Scott lost 80% of his body and then was completely fine a year later. I cant see why a rescue team or something wouldn’t come for Dave considering TD is the most popular show in its own universe.
one thing I love about Pahkitew is how timeless the cast is. you can absolutely tell Island and Revenge are based off 2000s stereotypes while Island 2 is based off 2010s ones. as a result Pahkitew is the season that aged the least.
@@ABHBD_ yes but even them feel Kore general and less decade-specific. all cheerleaders look like Amy/Samey, Sky looks like your average athlete and Jasmine your average explorer. they feel like they could be in any era unlike people like Anne Maria or Justin.
Pahkitew Island cast be like: 1. Guy who makes cartoon sound effects 2. Guy who thinks he is a wizard 3. Twins that hate each other 4. Guy who simps for every single girl he meets 5. Girl who thinks she is a disney princess 6. Chris Mcclean stan 7. Some beta male 8. Dumbass who thinks he is a supervillain 9. Some nerd who is actually a supervillain 10. Austrailian chick 11. Honey boo boo 12. Some zoey ripoff 13. Dumbass who thinks zombies are real
So 1. Beardo 2. Leonard (I think) 3. Any and Sammy! 4. Rodney 5. Ella 6. Topher 7. Dave 8.max 9. Scarlett ( I think) 10. Jasmine 11. Sugar 12. Sky 13. Shawn Did I get it right
exactlyy like it doesnt take itself too seriously unlike all stars which took itself too seriously with the mal stuff, at the end of the day its a cartoon thats meant to be funny and lighthearted and pahkitew does that well
I really like this season too, but that's probably just because it was the first season I ever watched as a kid. I'm male, and I remember being so scared when there was one boy and three girls left (and I was SO SCARED watching the latest season when the only boy left out of five was in the bottom two) XD.
I always think that Pahkitew Island is unique for having the most unique cast of campers ever I just don't like the ending because of how crazy Dave became because of Chris McLean I'm glad he is less crazy in the reboot of Total Drama and Chef became his voice of reason which makes Total Drama feel better than before plus having Sky a Cree decent person is great we need more diversity in the campers to help bring peace.
Honestly, I completely respect your opinion, and some of these takes are pretty good. Pahkitew Island is an alright season all things considered, and while I always thought that, this was a good video making some of its draws very clear. One thing I'd like to point out is how you mentioned a pro of Pahkitew Island being that it takes advantage of it being a cartoon. Compare that to Island, which is pretty grounded and realistic as opposed to Pahkitew. The problem with this is that it's not the fundamental idea of Total Drama. Island was supposed to be an edgy cartoon for tweens to teenagers parodying Survivor, and the following seasons kept up this mentality, though Revenge of the Island deviated from the realism. By the time we reach Pahkitew, this realism is completely missing. The people who watched Island for the grounded and realistic nature of the cartoon will be tuned out realising that Pahkitew is turning that into an ordinary exaggerated cartoon. Of course that would cause a lot of uproar. It's like how Paper Mario the game series changed its focus from being an RPG to an Action-Adventure genre. Fans of the RPGs are some of the most vocal people on the internet complaining how the later games ripped out the formula that made them good. Ideally, if the Paper Mario team wanted to make a series of Action-Adventure games, they should've just made a new game series rather than tamper with the beloved Paper Mario series. Similar to here, if Total Drama wanted to be more about the slapstick and unreal nature like cartoons, they should've just made a different show rather than piggyback off the Total Drama name. I appreciate Pahkitew Island as it is, and while it's a good cartoon, it is a bad Total Drama season for that reason.
I actually feel that Shawn's ending is a stronger one because Shawn went through more character development than Sky. He learned something and became a better person through his relationship to Jasmine, learning to think more of others and not to miss out on life because of your fears. On that note, I agree with you on RR's winners. Someone bashed me for saying it was karma for them sacrificing themselves earlier because "Karma isn't even real". But the thing was, I didn't argue that karma was real, just that the writers were using the Surfer Dudes to send a message about how their good deed came back to benefit them, something that comes up in a lot of storytelling, especially in media targeted at kids, but at adults too.
Pakethew island is in a special place in my heart, it so entertaining, chaotic and was the season that got me into Total drama as a whole ! But i do love (almost) all the seasons but Pakethew is special to me... Soo yeeeee i love Pakethew island
I never hated the season, I do enjoy her and jasmine and Shawn are some if my all time favorites but I think my real problem was the unused potential some characters had especially Topher and Sammy Sammy I think didn't get the chance to grow to much after amy was eliminated one of her biggest problems was her having low self worth, I think if she would have gone further it could have shown her that she can succeed and manage to be her own person and as implied in her home life a copy of her sister that is being pushed around And Topher will forever be one of the top 5 missed potential characters in the show, he could have been the perfect candidate of being a mole of sort having an illegal alliance with Chris with Chris helping him get further and he creating the drama Chris loves and being more of anti hero than antagonist on the one side creating drama and on the other do help out others grow
Another route they could have gone that would have been cool is later on have the producers declare they want Topher as the host, but he turns out to be more crazy and sadistic than Chris. So Chris teams up with the other campers to get him off. Alternatively, have a successful version of Zee's strategy where Chris goes too far and so they end up voting Chris off the island in order to have Topher host haha.
This made Pahkitew island my favorite season. It was already 2nd and I had no reason why I liked it so much But after mentioning Beardo is autism and Rodney not having a mother figure and how the writers used Beardo and Leonard to make us like Dave as in to deceive us so we can start on hating him later really opened my eyes as I never saw the season this way. Either way despite what happened to Dave I still ended up having him as my FAVORITE character. Mainly because I got so attached to him in the early episodes that it felt impossible to no longer like him.
I love Pahkitew island It was so much fun Ella, Rodney, Max and Shawn (maybe Scarlett and Topher) were SUPER FUNNY And yes I did expect Scarlett to be evil, it was kinda obvious
Honestly when this season first aired. I didn't think it was all the appealing and didn't watch (and probably at the time move to non Total Drama things). But one time on Netflix I watched this season and actually enjoyed the season in fact it might have overall turn into my favorite season. Probably purely for a lot of reasons you have said in this video.
I thought I was crazy for thinking this was the best 13 episode season for a long time. 1 or 2 of the reboot probably takes it now, but I need to rewatch this at some point
Thank you! 🙏 Idc what anyone says, PI was a great season even with some of it's problems like Dave after he went crazy and Beardo just being a nothing character like Stacy was for ROTI. I still enjoy it on rewatches, I just love most of the characters and it's just fun overall. WT is def my favorite season, but if I were to be honest, my top 3 seasons would be WT, ROTI, and Island, but PI would be a close fourth with the Island reboot!
pahkitew was only good through its entertainment value, but thinking back is not fun, the cast isnt that fun and honestly, this season was a big miss with the robots and scarlett, amy and sugar werent good villains. pahkitew isnt the worst, but it misses a lot of drama and really only is entertaining. every season except allstars is better imo
Sugar was a hood villain, they made her funny and stuff and not just some manipulator like Alejandro ,I bet you are one of those that hate sugar just bc she got Ella eliminated.
I completely agree with Dave but I don’t think they intended to write Dave like this, I think they saw him as more of a spoiled brat than a nice guy, sadly that’s how he ended up, out of all contestants, I really wish he came back to redeem himself
While I ultimately disagree with a lot of the points here, and it didn’t really convince me that this is a good season, this was a great video and did make me admire some things about Pahkitew that I didn’t really care for previously, plus I can admire the balls someone needs to have if they wanna make a positive review of the second most hated season from their fandom, specially when the fandom is as unwelcoming towards different opinions as the TD fandom is
The autism thing might be true because for some of us sound goes from brain to mouth quicker than words.mine is cat sounds mostly and my family can tell when something is wrong when a certain sound is made
This is a good analysis! Pakithew isn’t my favorite but I liked the season a lot more than roti and all stars (which is my personal least favorite season). I was a bit concerned about that opinion because I wasn’t really sure why and also figured I would get flamed by the td fandom if I ever verbalized that. Like you said, Pakithew is just really interesting. There were some contestants that I couldn’t stand but I was still getting entertainment out of hating them a cartoonish amount. And the characters I actually liked I enjoyed much more than anyone out of the roti cast. I don’t hate the roti cast by any means, I just found them to be the most boring line up of characters compared to the other seasons. There was nobody I hated, but also just nobody I liked all that much either, versus Pakithew where I had an actual connection to the cast, be it good or bad. Sorry it that was really rambly but yeah I appreciate you for coming on here and confidently expressing a controversial opinion about the series! I love hearing those because the td fandom sometimes feels like a hive mind where if you don’t have the same opinion as the rest you get jumped. 😭😭😭 So this was a pretty refreshing watch.
this was the first season of total drama i watched back in 2015 when cartoon networks website had the full season up. the season not having or even mentioning previous ones made it easy to watch without knowledge of any prior events. its entertaining, weird, random, and gimmicky. and all those are tropes i love in tv shows. all 11 contestants here are great! jasmine who? amy samey wha? dramarama still solos the whole franchise though
about the big theory it doesnt really make sense because of the exclusive clip that can be found only in italian: th-cam.com/video/wa1BFjmNACU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WdGzDNQaHxfsUWkK So basically, Chris mentioned that as Wawanakwa Island sank at the end of All Stars, he and the producers decided to find a new island for the following season. Then, a stack of audition tapes from potential contestants was on a table in DVD format. And in an unfortunate turn of events, Chris accidentally dropped all but 14 of the auditions. Seizing the opportunity, Chris decided to roll with it and pretend as if he had intentionally chosen those 14. And that's how the Pahkitew Island contestants were supposedly selected, even though Chris didn't even choose them.
If the island from the original season sank in All Stars, then that would mean Ezekiel fucking drowned to death since he was in Boney Island. Either that or Boney island didn't sink since the original island now back in the reboot. And they could have made contestants that are the exact opposites to the contestants of past generations Examples: The Ugly Guy (opposite to Justin) The Smart Girl with dark hair (opposite to Lindsay) The Goody Two Shoes (opposite to Duncan) The Tomgirl (opposite to Jo) The GIrl who is a casual Total Drama fan (opposite to Sierra) The Selfless Nerd (opposite to Lightning) The Calm Girl (opposite to Eva) The City Boy (opposite to Ezekiel and Scott) The Girl who always tells the truth (opposite to Staci) The Normal Girl (opposite to Izzy) The Natural Beauty Girl (opposite to Anne Maria) The Weak Mean Guy (opposite to DJ) The Extrovert (opposite to Gwen) The Nerd who is good at Sports (opposite to Tyler) The Smooth Brain who talks a lot (opposite to B)
PAHKITEW SWEEP ITS MY FAVORITE SEASON EVER,, I love how they handled the main relationship I hecking love Jashawn with all my heart they’re so healthy and adorable together, not to mention the REPRESENTATION I MEAN- 💥
I agree with you - in my opinion I would actually rank pahkitew island above all stars in the simple fact that it FELT like normal total drama season and the characters are good - unless a biased someone decides to ruthlessly dissect them under a microscope. It even fit with the plot in terms of Chris dialing down his behavior in the face of lawsuits after the endings of world tour, revenge of the island, and all stars - (the sinking island being the Catalyst for that.) Pahkitew Island in my opinion was a good season in that was never meant to "stand out" - it was just a chill filler season meant spice things up (like revenge of the island) and while the characters defiantly had they're stereotypical archetypes, your right in the sense that predictable isn't something you can call them - they seemed to always surprise you (like when shawn the survival enthusiast has a soft soft for Dave trying to woo sky) I think people are trying to dissect this season under a microscope to prove something or make it the failure that was all stars seem better in comparison - but to me they're just small group of opiniated people with a loud voice who are kinda forcing their views onto everyone else. if we want to talk truly awful total drama seasons, we need to focus on all stars and the currently airing reboot
Since I've seen how much hate this season has received, it's really interesting to hear a very different perspective on it. I haven't watched it myself, but you're making me want to check it out. Admittedly, a big part of why I've been thinking of watching it is for Max. I think he's adorable and oddly endearing tbh. A very unpopular opinion from what I've seen, but one I'm sticking to.
I always loved this season :) your analysis has me appreciate Beardo a lot more. although I still kinda wish they gave him a better speaking voice. I'm not sure if I appreciate Rodney anymore though. I didn't really enjoy that trope with Brock in Pokemon & I don't think I can enjoy it with Rodney. which stinks cause Rodney has a very adorable design.
This season is the worst. I respect your opinion, and I hope you respect mine. Here are ALL of my points. -- Shawn's And Jasmine's Half-baked Relationship -- Lack of interesting characters -- Terrible Villan -- Horrible Pacing -- Lost Potential Shawn's and Jasmine's relationship at first was ok. It was until after Shawn knocks off Jasmine in the challenge, and she throws a fit? She expected Shawn to not attack her, but she's forgetting that they're competing against each other. She 'hates' him for what he did for such a stupid reason when Shawn wasn't at fault. Their relationship felt unsatisfying afterwards. All of the characters besides a few have their characters literally summed up by their character tropes. Ella's character for example is LITERALLY just disney princess. Heather's trope is 'mean girl', but she isn't JUST mean. She grows through development and has actual character. Ella just sings and that's about it. Her being bullied by Sugar never went anywhere aswell. Same goes for Beardo, Sugar, and many more. Sugar was a horrible villan. She didn't even feel like a looming threat and she literally only got through by sheer luck. She costed the team many challenges and was overall toxic. It wasn't satisfying at all to see her where she is as it didn't feel deserved. She was carried by the plot. The pacing is horrendous. So many plot points they never done anything with. Barely any of the characters got a moment for the audience to know them, or connect with them. In TDI, we got to know the cast through interactions with one a another, but we didn't get that. It felt lifeless and I didn't even know who to root for as I don't KNOW these characters. So many things they could've done to fix this season. Make Scarlett the villan, and remove her going crazy, and it's perfect. Imagine a villan that uses someone else as bait to the rest of the cast to protect herself, whilst this bait could potentially get her taken to the finals? It's a perfect plan, and I was invested in Scarlett's plan. They ruined it to create some stupid contrast with Max. This season is by far the worst out of all of them. And this is my opinion. (I avoided mentioning David and Sky once for the sake of it being a easy problem with the season, and wanted to branch off to other issues.)
If you are making the argument that the 13 episode format can work how is pahkitew better than revenge of the island. I do like it but revenge has a way more engaging plot and vilains. It has satisfying charecter arks and every charecter has a clear purpose. Plus even chef gets some moments to shine. he dose nothing in pahkitew wich sucks because he is an amazing charecter.
Chef barely being in Pahkitew is a shame for sure, but ROTI I feel like fumbles as soon as Scott is eliminated and I strongly dislike Mike and how his DID is portrayed
@@QGonline Fair. But I really liked lighting as sort of twist villain finale Boss. I feel like they actually do the twist villain trope right as lightning was never really a good person. he still feels like a real person wile being an extreme physical threat to Cam on top of still being hilarious. Un like a twist villain like scarlet witch the twist is just that she is more cartoonishly evil than Max. This ruins everything interesting about her before her reveal. As it was all fake. It’s so dum I hate it because I liked her before the twist. Basically i think lightening is a much better twist villain than scarlet.
@@adekunletaiwo1342 honestly jo should've been the main villain and fight cameron in the finale the arc the 2 of them had when the merge hit ended too soon and it would have led to a satisfying ending similar to heather vs alejandro
@@Exofrick fair that would have been great but that was two predictable. I adore lighting be a twist villain and the final boss for Cameron tho defeat.
Only care a tiny bit about watching the video. I'm just here to read the war in the comments. Edit: Okay, might as well share my own thoughts. I watched this season maybe last year knowing all the major plot points, so I was ready for the chaos. Because I didn't take anything seriously, I loved it. Did characters like Chris, Dave, and Amy suck? Of course. But the rest of it was so off the walls it was hilarious. Bonus points for Jasmine and Shawn.
Great video! While I don't hate the season like many other fans, I'm not a huge fan, either. It's definitely funny, and it's far less problematic than previous seasons were, but it's also got quite a few issues with its writing. The whole Sugar/Ella conflict kinda feels like it just goes nowhere, the Shawn/Jasmine romance has a way too long fight for a pretty dumb reason overall, and early boots like Sammy get screwed over. Like, why did they include the abuse storyline only to then send Sammy home alongside her abuser? She can stand up for herself now, but since Jasmine never mentions her again, it feels like she has no support system still, and will just continuously be mistreated and abused. Also, her having to pretend to be her abuser to not be hated is genuinely awful, and also goes nowhere. Scarlett is a terrible twist villain, and Max's biggest problem isn't that I find him unfunny, it's that he just kinda does nothing. Why is he not a part of any real storylines?? He takes up so much time and does nothing with it. It's a waste. I like many of the concepts of the cast, but in execution, most of them kinda fall flat imo. Still, I want to repeat, this was a really fun watch! Great vid ❤
Everyone are giving hate to the season 6 cast but its still better than the season 4 cast we was extremly boring And season 6 is such better than season 4 or 5 who are really horrible
Though its not my top 3 favorites, I prefer this season than all stars. The ironic thing about all stars is the first 8 episodes were honestly not that bad but I think what I like about this season it doesn't follow a specific plot; in other words I like its wacky randomness. First we think they are on a brand new island of cree but then later its revealed that the island is artifical with robots. It almost feels like a sequel of what they did with ROTI with the plot focusing on mutation. I want to discover had this season had not been short it seemed it really could touch on greater aspects. Comparing this season and seaon 4 I could actually see similiar elements of what the two had as far as the stories and characters are trying to go. Case in point, I also feel like they wanted all stars to be a bad dream for the most part, hence the reasons for this season and it being called 5.2( I really thought it was called season 6)😅😊 In addtion it was pretty funny. I didn't like sugar meaness towards elka though.
@@spiderdragon6767 Island’s second half stomps on Pahkitew, the first half drags it down since it was still finding its footing and so just isn’t as sharp as pretty much everything that came afterwards
@@QGonline I agree, and island is the first season so there’s lots of mistakes with the eliminations order, the story, and the characters for the first half
I don’t hate Pahkitw island I just don’t like Dave or Sky, everyone else is pretty decent if not great imo and the challenges can be more enjoyable to watch then some eps from action which is my fav season-
deep down i say i hate this season tho i really like it, not all of it but it had a lot of memerable moments for me, plus leanard my fav tbh (i saw wut u did with inanimate insanity) but yea i also enjoy sugar.
@@Jace_Gaming69 in all fairness this video was originally made at least like 3 years ago now, this is a reupload And I’d say this is definitely the unpopular opinion about Pahkitew still
sorry this season just has to many unlikeable characters. every season had had mayby 1 or 2 bad characters but season 6 takes the cake. dave- do i really need to explain he's creepy and only cares about him self he's a narcissist that uses pity to his advantage to manipulate skys feelings he's a pos. sugar- is just so annoying and gross her voice is annoying she never shuts up she's not funny and made it way to far. Amy- annoying character with no good qualities constantly shits on her little sister for no good reason its not even played up for comedy its just straight up rude. rodney- what was the point of his character he does nothing important at all he just breaks up the flow of the story no character stands out in this season at all except jasmine and mayby mayby sky. I liked scarlett as well but we didn't get enough of her evil side. imo total drama is made by its characters. The first 4 seasons are perfect imo after that its meh
My rankings of the season (no the new season isn’t being ranked) 7th: World Tour (the fucking love triangle and derailed characters) 6th 5th: Pahketew Island 4th: ROTI 3rd: Redonculas Race 2nd: Total drama action 1st: Total drama island
@@Thefrawd African =/= Australian. They are two different continents. The Australian Aboriginals are a completely different race than the Indigenous Africans.
pahkitew island has so much potential with its characters and concept, and seeing people fix up roti made the season itself more enjoyable, so why not pahkitew?
Idk man... I respect your opinion 💯 but this cast was the worst (now that the new season is out it still is) Characters like Leonard, Beardo, Suger, Ella, Amy, Dave... and the challenges aren't as fun, compared to other seasons they aren't that memorable and the only saving grace of the season was characters like Jazmine, Shawn and Max this season had a good idea but didn't have the same charm that the other seasons did.. Sugar pretty much ruined it as well as Dave for how annoying they got and Rodney constantly loving everyone who talks to him.. idk there's way more bad than good.. at least they got the finale right
i saw "4 months ago" and expected an april fools joke
“There comes a time in every girl’s life where she has to stop whining about her boyfriend’s zombie obsession and expect she has a weird taste in men” one of my favorite lines in the show
When people describe Pahkitew Island as the worst season, they're comparing it to the other seasons. As you said, Pahkitew Island took what Total Drama should be, and "threw it into a paper shredder". It's understandable why you like it, but that's (probably) the same reason as to why people dislike it.
no way in hell Pahkitew is worse than All-stars
all stars more like all boring
@@ManolitoSaitanan-z4hfacts
all stars just destroyed the characters that we love
at least some good things happened at that season tho
@@MP_Guzall stars is much worse they ruined all the best villans and characters just for a shitty villan that dies by a button
@@GiveLightning_Luv yeah…
Finally someone who likes this season. I personally loved your perspective on this chaotic season especially how you described Dave (I personally think he should return in a future season) and I really liked how you made me admire more things in the season like Beardo for example
Dave died
@@BryanOmega6 Yea that is a possibly but it’s not directly confirmed. Remember this is a cartoon. Scott lost 80% of his body and then was completely fine a year later. I cant see why a rescue team or something wouldn’t come for Dave considering TD is the most popular show in its own universe.
Scarlett should have one smh
one thing I love about Pahkitew is how timeless the cast is. you can absolutely tell Island and Revenge are based off 2000s stereotypes while Island 2 is based off 2010s ones. as a result Pahkitew is the season that aged the least.
Because those are not teen stereotypes. The only teen stereotypes i see in PI are Jasmine,Amy and Sammy,Rodney and that 2 guys who I hate
@@ABHBD_ yes but even them feel Kore general and less decade-specific. all cheerleaders look like Amy/Samey, Sky looks like your average athlete and Jasmine your average explorer. they feel like they could be in any era unlike people like Anne Maria or Justin.
@@a_peculiar_oddball the dumb blonde did not age well because hair color doesnt define someone's intellect
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE THAT ACTUALLY LIKES THIS SEASON!!! God im so tired of people hating on the season because it exists.
Pahkitew Island cast be like:
1. Guy who makes cartoon sound effects
2. Guy who thinks he is a wizard
3. Twins that hate each other
4. Guy who simps for every single girl he meets
5. Girl who thinks she is a disney princess
6. Chris Mcclean stan
7. Some beta male
8. Dumbass who thinks he is a supervillain
9. Some nerd who is actually a supervillain
10. Austrailian chick
11. Honey boo boo
12. Some zoey ripoff
13. Dumbass who thinks zombies are real
Excellent way to assemble a cast
So
1. Beardo
2. Leonard (I think)
3. Any and Sammy!
4. Rodney
5. Ella
6. Topher
7. Dave
8.max
9. Scarlett ( I think)
10. Jasmine
11. Sugar
12. Sky
13. Shawn
Did I get it right
Yes@@Rano8Rainbow
Well Ella knows she’s not one but wishes she was one (unlike Leonard)
Beardo is honestly my favorite Pahkitew character ever.
exactlyy like it doesnt take itself too seriously unlike all stars which took itself too seriously with the mal stuff, at the end of the day its a cartoon thats meant to be funny and lighthearted and pahkitew does that well
I really like this season too, but that's probably just because it was the first season I ever watched as a kid. I'm male, and I remember being so scared when there was one boy and three girls left (and I was SO SCARED watching the latest season when the only boy left out of five was in the bottom two) XD.
I would have liked this season if Dave didn’t fall in-love with sky,or if he didn’t start crying on the spot……
i was searching for people defending this season and this appears to be the only one that does nice video man
I personally do think this season gets hated ngl
Its a decent season not my fave but still decent
I always think that Pahkitew Island is unique for having the most unique cast of campers ever I just don't like the ending because of how crazy Dave became because of Chris McLean I'm glad he is less crazy in the reboot of Total Drama and Chef became his voice of reason which makes Total Drama feel better than before plus having Sky a Cree decent person is great we need more diversity in the campers to help bring peace.
CRAZY DAVE?!?!? *Loonboon starts playing*
i enjoy seeing your perspective on this season, i might have to give it another chance!
Honestly, I completely respect your opinion, and some of these takes are pretty good. Pahkitew Island is an alright season all things considered, and while I always thought that, this was a good video making some of its draws very clear.
One thing I'd like to point out is how you mentioned a pro of Pahkitew Island being that it takes advantage of it being a cartoon. Compare that to Island, which is pretty grounded and realistic as opposed to Pahkitew. The problem with this is that it's not the fundamental idea of Total Drama. Island was supposed to be an edgy cartoon for tweens to teenagers parodying Survivor, and the following seasons kept up this mentality, though Revenge of the Island deviated from the realism. By the time we reach Pahkitew, this realism is completely missing. The people who watched Island for the grounded and realistic nature of the cartoon will be tuned out realising that Pahkitew is turning that into an ordinary exaggerated cartoon. Of course that would cause a lot of uproar.
It's like how Paper Mario the game series changed its focus from being an RPG to an Action-Adventure genre. Fans of the RPGs are some of the most vocal people on the internet complaining how the later games ripped out the formula that made them good. Ideally, if the Paper Mario team wanted to make a series of Action-Adventure games, they should've just made a new game series rather than tamper with the beloved Paper Mario series. Similar to here, if Total Drama wanted to be more about the slapstick and unreal nature like cartoons, they should've just made a different show rather than piggyback off the Total Drama name.
I appreciate Pahkitew Island as it is, and while it's a good cartoon, it is a bad Total Drama season for that reason.
I actually feel that Shawn's ending is a stronger one because Shawn went through more character development than Sky. He learned something and became a better person through his relationship to Jasmine, learning to think more of others and not to miss out on life because of your fears. On that note, I agree with you on RR's winners. Someone bashed me for saying it was karma for them sacrificing themselves earlier because "Karma isn't even real". But the thing was, I didn't argue that karma was real, just that the writers were using the Surfer Dudes to send a message about how their good deed came back to benefit them, something that comes up in a lot of storytelling, especially in media targeted at kids, but at adults too.
YES, THANK YOU. THIS HAS BEEN MY FAVORITE FOR A WHILE AND JUST HAD NO CLUE WHY, AND NOW I HAVE REASONS. BLESS YOU AND THE TH-cam ALGORITHM.
Pakethew island is in a special place in my heart, it so entertaining, chaotic and was the season that got me into Total drama as a whole !
But i do love (almost) all the seasons but Pakethew is special to me...
Soo yeeeee i love Pakethew island
I never hated the season, I do enjoy her and jasmine and Shawn are some if my all time favorites but I think my real problem was the unused potential some characters had especially Topher and Sammy
Sammy I think didn't get the chance to grow to much after amy was eliminated one of her biggest problems was her having low self worth, I think if she would have gone further it could have shown her that she can succeed and manage to be her own person and as implied in her home life a copy of her sister that is being pushed around
And Topher will forever be one of the top 5 missed potential characters in the show, he could have been the perfect candidate of being a mole of sort having an illegal alliance with Chris with Chris helping him get further and he creating the drama Chris loves and being more of anti hero than antagonist on the one side creating drama and on the other do help out others grow
Another route they could have gone that would have been cool is later on have the producers declare they want Topher as the host, but he turns out to be more crazy and sadistic than Chris. So Chris teams up with the other campers to get him off.
Alternatively, have a successful version of Zee's strategy where Chris goes too far and so they end up voting Chris off the island in order to have Topher host haha.
Man, I love Total Drama. It’s a shame Beardo died though.
common mistake, that was bowie
This made Pahkitew island my favorite season. It was already 2nd and I had no reason why I liked it so much
But after mentioning Beardo is autism and Rodney not having a mother figure and how the writers used Beardo and Leonard to make us like Dave as in to deceive us so we can start on hating him later really opened my eyes as I never saw the season this way. Either way despite what happened to Dave I still ended up having him as my FAVORITE character. Mainly because I got so attached to him in the early episodes that it felt impossible to no longer like him.
I love Pahkitew island
It was so much fun
Ella, Rodney, Max and Shawn (maybe Scarlett and Topher) were SUPER FUNNY
And yes I did expect Scarlett to be evil, it was kinda obvious
Honestly when this season first aired. I didn't think it was all the appealing and didn't watch (and probably at the time move to non Total Drama things). But one time on Netflix I watched this season and actually enjoyed the season in fact it might have overall turn into my favorite season. Probably purely for a lot of reasons you have said in this video.
I thought I was crazy for thinking this was the best 13 episode season for a long time. 1 or 2 of the reboot probably takes it now, but I need to rewatch this at some point
Honestly amazing video, I rewatched the entire show recently and thought i would dislike Pahkitew, but found myself enjoying it a lot
Thank you! 🙏
Idc what anyone says, PI was a great season even with some of it's problems like Dave after he went crazy and Beardo just being a nothing character like Stacy was for ROTI. I still enjoy it on rewatches, I just love most of the characters and it's just fun overall. WT is def my favorite season, but if I were to be honest, my top 3 seasons would be WT, ROTI, and Island, but PI would be a close fourth with the Island reboot!
I felt bad when everyone did'nt like pahkitew island even if it was my favourite. This video made me feel better.
pahkitew was only good through its entertainment value, but thinking back is not fun, the cast isnt that fun and honestly, this season was a big miss with the robots and scarlett, amy and sugar werent good villains.
pahkitew isnt the worst, but it misses a lot of drama and really only is entertaining. every season except allstars is better imo
Sugar was a hood villain, they made her funny and stuff and not just some manipulator like Alejandro ,I bet you are one of those that hate sugar just bc she got Ella eliminated.
About the Scarlett thing, I think it’s canon that the contestants were all chosen by complete accident in-universe, but I like your theory better.
Yeah I became aware of that well after this video was originally made (this is actually a reupload)
I’ll be honest I hated this season when I watched it a month ago but this is giving me second thoughts and maybe I’ll rewatch it and enjoy it
honestly I was waiting to see a vid that shared my liking for this season :)
I agree so much😭
4:13
It looked so natural until I realised these were DRV3 characters lol. I think I realised it when I saw Angie there.
I enjoyed this season cuz of the Chad Leonard
This is a great take
I completely agree with Dave but I don’t think they intended to write Dave like this, I think they saw him as more of a spoiled brat than a nice guy, sadly that’s how he ended up, out of all contestants, I really wish he came back to redeem himself
I think Chris saw the globe with the knives in it and thought “I want to know what this is about” and let her on the show
While I ultimately disagree with a lot of the points here, and it didn’t really convince me that this is a good season, this was a great video and did make me admire some things about Pahkitew that I didn’t really care for previously, plus I can admire the balls someone needs to have if they wanna make a positive review of the second most hated season from their fandom, specially when the fandom is as unwelcoming towards different opinions as the TD fandom is
If you’ve seen my WT video, you’d be familiar with my belief that the TH-cam TD community in particular is in need of some feather ruffling
Finally, someone acknowledges that they jumped the shark long before world tour
I'm bi and I loved all the jokes about Owen being bi. They didn't feel disrespectful in my opinion. The show creator is gay, after all
This is my 3rd fave season
The autism thing might be true because for some of us sound goes from brain to mouth quicker than words.mine is cat sounds mostly and my family can tell when something is wrong when a certain sound is made
This is a good analysis! Pakithew isn’t my favorite but I liked the season a lot more than roti and all stars (which is my personal least favorite season). I was a bit concerned about that opinion because I wasn’t really sure why and also figured I would get flamed by the td fandom if I ever verbalized that.
Like you said, Pakithew is just really interesting. There were some contestants that I couldn’t stand but I was still getting entertainment out of hating them a cartoonish amount. And the characters I actually liked I enjoyed much more than anyone out of the roti cast. I don’t hate the roti cast by any means, I just found them to be the most boring line up of characters compared to the other seasons. There was nobody I hated, but also just nobody I liked all that much either, versus Pakithew where I had an actual connection to the cast, be it good or bad.
Sorry it that was really rambly but yeah I appreciate you for coming on here and confidently expressing a controversial opinion about the series! I love hearing those because the td fandom sometimes feels like a hive mind where if you don’t have the same opinion as the rest you get jumped. 😭😭😭 So this was a pretty refreshing watch.
I did not expect an OSC refrence in this video!!
Do you mean “object show community”?
Yeah! OSC means Object Show Community, it's an achronim! :D@@QGonline
this was the first season of total drama i watched back in 2015 when cartoon networks website had the full season up. the season not having or even mentioning previous ones made it easy to watch without knowledge of any prior events.
its entertaining, weird, random, and gimmicky. and all those are tropes i love in tv shows. all 11 contestants here are great!
jasmine who? amy samey wha?
dramarama still solos the whole franchise though
about the big theory it doesnt really make sense because of the exclusive clip that can be found only in italian:
th-cam.com/video/wa1BFjmNACU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WdGzDNQaHxfsUWkK
So basically, Chris mentioned that as Wawanakwa Island sank at the end of All Stars, he and the producers decided to find a new island for the following season. Then, a stack of audition tapes from potential contestants was on a table in DVD format. And in an unfortunate turn of events, Chris accidentally dropped all but 14 of the auditions. Seizing the opportunity, Chris decided to roll with it and pretend as if he had intentionally chosen those 14. And that's how the Pahkitew Island contestants were supposedly selected, even though Chris didn't even choose them.
Yeah when I made this video I wasn’t aware of this bonus clip lmao
If the island from the original season sank in All Stars, then that would mean Ezekiel fucking drowned to death since he was in Boney Island.
Either that or Boney island didn't sink since the original island now back in the reboot.
And they could have made contestants that are the exact opposites to the contestants of past generations
Examples:
The Ugly Guy (opposite to Justin)
The Smart Girl with dark hair (opposite to Lindsay)
The Goody Two Shoes (opposite to Duncan)
The Tomgirl (opposite to Jo)
The GIrl who is a casual Total Drama fan (opposite to Sierra)
The Selfless Nerd (opposite to Lightning)
The Calm Girl (opposite to Eva)
The City Boy (opposite to Ezekiel and Scott)
The Girl who always tells the truth (opposite to Staci)
The Normal Girl (opposite to Izzy)
The Natural Beauty Girl (opposite to Anne Maria)
The Weak Mean Guy (opposite to DJ)
The Extrovert (opposite to Gwen)
The Nerd who is good at Sports (opposite to Tyler)
The Smooth Brain who talks a lot (opposite to B)
1) Boney Island is a separate island from Wawanakwa
2) The new season is actually a completely different island, unnamed atm
To be honest, I understand. I’m not a Total Drama Reboot fan and Ik it’s a decent season, but I just prefer Revenge of the Island and World Tour.
PAHKITEW SWEEP ITS MY FAVORITE SEASON EVER,,
I love how they handled the main relationship I hecking love Jashawn with all my heart they’re so healthy and adorable together, not to mention the REPRESENTATION I MEAN- 💥
Same here.
OMGGG HII (IT’S PIP)
@@Thezombiesateherbrains OMG HAI PIPPP!!!!! AAWAAA 🦄🦄🦄❗❗❗
I agree with you - in my opinion I would actually rank pahkitew island above all stars in the simple fact that it FELT like normal total drama season and the characters are good - unless a biased someone decides to ruthlessly dissect them under a microscope. It even fit with the plot in terms of Chris dialing down his behavior in the face of lawsuits after the endings of world tour, revenge of the island, and all stars - (the sinking island being the Catalyst for that.)
Pahkitew Island in my opinion was a good season in that was never meant to "stand out" - it was just a chill filler season meant spice things up (like revenge of the island) and while the characters defiantly had they're stereotypical archetypes, your right in the sense that predictable isn't something you can call them - they seemed to always surprise you (like when shawn the survival enthusiast has a soft soft for Dave trying to woo sky)
I think people are trying to dissect this season under a microscope to prove something or make it the failure that was all stars seem better in comparison - but to me they're just small group of opiniated people with a loud voice who are kinda forcing their views onto everyone else.
if we want to talk truly awful total drama seasons, we need to focus on all stars and the currently airing reboot
I HAVE FOUND MY PEOPLE
I agree, then I first watch it I dislike now I really like it
I’m high and your theory blew my Mind
See, storywise, phakitew island isn't the best season but I still enjoyed it so much because it was so funny.
Since I've seen how much hate this season has received, it's really interesting to hear a very different perspective on it. I haven't watched it myself, but you're making me want to check it out. Admittedly, a big part of why I've been thinking of watching it is for Max. I think he's adorable and oddly endearing tbh. A very unpopular opinion from what I've seen, but one I'm sticking to.
Honestly didn't expect a Inanimate insanity mention!! :00
I always loved this season :) your analysis has me appreciate Beardo a lot more. although I still kinda wish they gave him a better speaking voice. I'm not sure if I appreciate Rodney anymore though. I didn't really enjoy that trope with Brock in Pokemon & I don't think I can enjoy it with Rodney. which stinks cause Rodney has a very adorable design.
Was LeShawna running on a log with a bear not very cartoonish enough?
In Pahkitew that bear would’ve been a robot decked out in scuba gear and jewelry so I mean I guess not?
This season is the worst. I respect your opinion, and I hope you respect mine. Here are ALL of my points.
-- Shawn's And Jasmine's Half-baked Relationship
-- Lack of interesting characters
-- Terrible Villan
-- Horrible Pacing
-- Lost Potential
Shawn's and Jasmine's relationship at first was ok. It was until after Shawn knocks off Jasmine in the challenge, and she throws a fit? She expected Shawn to not attack her, but she's forgetting that they're competing against each other. She 'hates' him for what he did for such a stupid reason when Shawn wasn't at fault. Their relationship felt unsatisfying afterwards.
All of the characters besides a few have their characters literally summed up by their character tropes. Ella's character for example is LITERALLY just disney princess. Heather's trope is 'mean girl', but she isn't JUST mean. She grows through development and has actual character. Ella just sings and that's about it. Her being bullied by Sugar never went anywhere aswell. Same goes for Beardo, Sugar, and many more.
Sugar was a horrible villan. She didn't even feel like a looming threat and she literally only got through by sheer luck. She costed the team many challenges and was overall toxic. It wasn't satisfying at all to see her where she is as it didn't feel deserved. She was carried by the plot.
The pacing is horrendous. So many plot points they never done anything with. Barely any of the characters got a moment for the audience to know them, or connect with them. In TDI, we got to know the cast through interactions with one a another, but we didn't get that. It felt lifeless and I didn't even know who to root for as I don't KNOW these characters.
So many things they could've done to fix this season. Make Scarlett the villan, and remove her going crazy, and it's perfect. Imagine a villan that uses someone else as bait to the rest of the cast to protect herself, whilst this bait could potentially get her taken to the finals? It's a perfect plan, and I was invested in Scarlett's plan. They ruined it to create some stupid contrast with Max.
This season is by far the worst out of all of them. And this is my opinion.
(I avoided mentioning David and Sky once for the sake of it being a easy problem with the season, and wanted to branch off to other issues.)
Wow, this video is something I haven't heard before. Ive never seen someone like this season, interesting opinion 🙏
If you are making the argument that the 13 episode format can work how is pahkitew better than revenge of the island.
I do like it but revenge has a way more engaging plot and vilains.
It has satisfying charecter arks and every charecter has a clear purpose.
Plus even chef gets some moments to shine.
he dose nothing in pahkitew wich sucks because he is an amazing charecter.
Chef barely being in Pahkitew is a shame for sure, but ROTI I feel like fumbles as soon as Scott is eliminated and I strongly dislike Mike and how his DID is portrayed
@@QGonline Fair.
But I really liked lighting as sort of twist villain finale Boss. I feel like they actually do the twist villain trope right as lightning was never really a good person. he still feels like a real person wile being an extreme physical threat to Cam on top of still being hilarious.
Un like a twist villain like scarlet witch the twist is just that she is more cartoonishly evil than Max. This ruins everything interesting about her before her reveal. As it was all fake. It’s so dum I hate it because I liked her before the twist. Basically i think lightening is a much better twist villain than scarlet.
@@adekunletaiwo1342 honestly jo should've been the main villain and fight cameron in the finale the arc the 2 of them had when the merge hit ended too soon and it would have led to a satisfying ending similar to heather vs alejandro
@@Exofrick fair that would have been great but that was two predictable. I adore lighting be a twist villain and the final boss for Cameron tho defeat.
Yay I agree with you! I really like tdpi! Btw, I believe you’d uploaded this video before?
Yeah this is a reupload lol
@@QGonline oh, okay!
I love all seasons of Total drama
I feel so seen
Only care a tiny bit about watching the video.
I'm just here to read the war in the comments.
Edit: Okay, might as well share my own thoughts. I watched this season maybe last year knowing all the major plot points, so I was ready for the chaos. Because I didn't take anything seriously, I loved it. Did characters like Chris, Dave, and Amy suck? Of course. But the rest of it was so off the walls it was hilarious. Bonus points for Jasmine and Shawn.
Prefer it over All Stars since some of the new characters i really enjoyed
7:36 ayy this guy gets it
Lol my favorite characters this season were sugar sky and Scarlett
1:43 Pahkitew is good but people just hate because of Leonard
Dave is the worst character doesn’t deserve anyone
Great video!
While I don't hate the season like many other fans, I'm not a huge fan, either. It's definitely funny, and it's far less problematic than previous seasons were, but it's also got quite a few issues with its writing.
The whole Sugar/Ella conflict kinda feels like it just goes nowhere, the Shawn/Jasmine romance has a way too long fight for a pretty dumb reason overall, and early boots like Sammy get screwed over. Like, why did they include the abuse storyline only to then send Sammy home alongside her abuser? She can stand up for herself now, but since Jasmine never mentions her again, it feels like she has no support system still, and will just continuously be mistreated and abused. Also, her having to pretend to be her abuser to not be hated is genuinely awful, and also goes nowhere.
Scarlett is a terrible twist villain, and Max's biggest problem isn't that I find him unfunny, it's that he just kinda does nothing. Why is he not a part of any real storylines?? He takes up so much time and does nothing with it. It's a waste.
I like many of the concepts of the cast, but in execution, most of them kinda fall flat imo.
Still, I want to repeat, this was a really fun watch! Great vid ❤
Pahkitew Island is just what happens to people after quarantine
amazing video
You think maybe go into more into the kind of moments in regards to kind 0f jokes u refer to
Can you please do a video about total drama island
Everyone are giving hate to the season 6 cast but its still better than the season 4 cast we was extremly boring
And season 6 is such better than season 4 or 5 who are really horrible
Though its not my top 3 favorites, I prefer this season than all stars. The ironic thing about all stars is the first 8 episodes were honestly not that bad but I think what I like about this season it doesn't follow a specific plot; in other words I like its wacky randomness. First we think they are on a brand new island of cree but then later its revealed that the island is artifical with robots. It almost feels like a sequel of what they did with ROTI with the plot focusing on mutation. I want to discover had this season had not been short it seemed it really could touch on greater aspects. Comparing this season and seaon 4 I could actually see similiar elements of what the two had as far as the stories and characters are trying to go. Case in point, I also feel like they wanted all stars to be a bad dream for the most part, hence the reasons for this season and it being called 5.2( I really thought it was called season 6)😅😊 In addtion it was pretty funny. I didn't like sugar meaness towards elka though.
7:35 I disagree I think inanimate insanity being grounded makes it unique like other object shows like Bfdi
The cast is unique funny and more different than the other cast. It’s not as good as the first 4 seasons but it’s 1000x better than All Stars
you missed with this one LMAO
It is a great season, but the first 3 seasons are objectively better, in my opinion
@@spiderdragon6767 World Tour yeah no doubt, idk if I necessarily agree on the other two but I definitely get why that’s the common consensus
@@QGonline action is not that good, but island might be behind pakitew, I don’t know I haven’t watch pahkitew in a while so I might forget things
@@spiderdragon6767 Island’s second half stomps on Pahkitew, the first half drags it down since it was still finding its footing and so just isn’t as sharp as pretty much everything that came afterwards
@@QGonline I agree, and island is the first season so there’s lots of mistakes with the eliminations order, the story, and the characters for the first half
Saying Sierra suck is crazy
@@flamboyant1994 probably not the term of phrase I’d use now, but yeah she’s not that great
Reupload?
Didnt u uplaod this before
Yes I did haha
I don’t hate Pahkitw island I just don’t like Dave or Sky, everyone else is pretty decent if not great imo and the challenges can be more enjoyable to watch then some eps from action which is my fav season-
It’s over hatted- it does have negative but it’s definitely over hatted even to this day-
This is my third favorite season (after ROTI and all stars) so I really appreciate the positive words for it. This season is fun!
It is my favorite too
the season 5 fandom is dying repost to make it heal :)
deep down i say i hate this season tho i really like it, not all of it but it had a lot of memerable moments for me, plus leanard my fav tbh (i saw wut u did with inanimate insanity) but yea i also enjoy sugar.
i don't understand half the words you're saying, what's a dagaroba and what's a rodie
I only hate in pahkitew Island is sugar
shadave appearance.
Yall are switching up too much man I thought everyone hated this season but apparently I was wrong 😭🙏
@@Jace_Gaming69 in all fairness this video was originally made at least like 3 years ago now, this is a reupload
And I’d say this is definitely the unpopular opinion about Pahkitew still
sorry this season just has to many unlikeable characters. every season had had mayby 1 or 2 bad characters but season 6 takes the cake.
dave- do i really need to explain he's creepy and only cares about him self he's a narcissist that uses pity to his advantage to manipulate skys feelings he's a pos.
sugar- is just so annoying and gross her voice is annoying she never shuts up she's not funny and made it way to far.
Amy- annoying character with no good qualities constantly shits on her little sister for no good reason its not even played up for comedy its just straight up rude.
rodney- what was the point of his character he does nothing important at all he just breaks up the flow of the story
no character stands out in this season at all except jasmine and mayby mayby sky.
I liked scarlett as well but we didn't get enough of her evil side. imo total drama is made by its characters.
The first 4 seasons are perfect imo after that its meh
reboot is in top 3 best seaons
You’re really delusional but I respect your opinion
Same
Shawn is one of least favorite characters so I for sure like Sky’s ending better. Shawn stayed way too long imo, he was mad annoying and unneeded.
My rankings of the season (no the new season isn’t being ranked)
7th: World Tour (the fucking love triangle and derailed characters)
6th
5th: Pahketew Island
4th: ROTI
3rd: Redonculas Race
2nd: Total drama action
1st: Total drama island
bro really put one of if not the best season in last
@@TvConfusionn Im sorry, but world tour is trash. It suffers from the same problems as all-stars.
reboot is definietly above roti, pahkitew, all stars, action and world tour imho.
Jasmine is not black. She's an Australian Aboriginal.
she's an australian aboriginal black girl. "Jasmine is not black she's not african" what in the colorblind you talking about
@@Thefrawd African =/= Australian. They are two different continents. The Australian Aboriginals are a completely different race than the Indigenous Africans.
this season deserves a redemption amongst the fandom like revenge got.
yesssss
pahkitew island has so much potential with its characters and concept, and seeing people fix up roti made the season itself more enjoyable, so why not pahkitew?
Finally someone else thinks Sierra sucks
sierra is the goat
iIzy 2 scarry girl ehhhhh 10:31
Idk man... I respect your opinion 💯 but this cast was the worst (now that the new season is out it still is) Characters like Leonard, Beardo, Suger, Ella, Amy, Dave... and the challenges aren't as fun, compared to other seasons they aren't that memorable and the only saving grace of the season was characters like Jazmine, Shawn and Max this season had a good idea but didn't have the same charm that the other seasons did.. Sugar pretty much ruined it as well as Dave for how annoying they got and Rodney constantly loving everyone who talks to him.. idk there's way more bad than good.. at least they got the finale right
Very rare to find someone that liked the finale of Pahkitew I suppose
@QG Shawn and sky wasn't bad so Shawn winning at least saved the season